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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,880 How would you explain the seemingly unexplainable? 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,720 It's even hard to make yourself believe it. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,960 What if it was a story so far -fetched nobody would believe you? 4 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:14,120 Lo and behold, here this thing is again. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Would you keep it a secret? 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,800 I don't know what it was. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Or would you share your experience with the world? 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,120 When you talk about it, it makes it more real. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,360 It was uh, it was kind of like a humming noise. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,680 Just one of them made it. 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,280 And what if that experience was with the extraterrestrial? 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,920 I'm going to describe some of the creatures that was aboard the craft. 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,040 This is the curious story of Charles Hickson 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:52,440 and Calvin Parker, whose tale of alien abduction in 1973 gripped the nation. 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Everybody's mouth fell open, it was like. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,960 And when more eyewitnesses surfaced over the years... 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,000 Suddenly there's an insurgent of a whole lot of reports. 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,800 There was just a huge number of UFO sightings, everybody was singing. 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,320 It begged the question, are we really alone in the universe? 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,920 And are we even ready for the truth? 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,080 I think we maybe all seem to have the same kind of feeling of validation that 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,440 we didn't make this up. 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,720 How could that many people imagine the exact same thing at the same time? 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,880 (dramatic music) 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,520 (dramatic music) 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Welcome to Pascagoula. 27 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,800 Nestled along Mississippi's Gulf Coast, this unassuming city 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,520 harbors a mystery that has endured for decades. 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Beneath its quiet streets and scenic charm lies a story that shook the world. 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,560 A tale of unexplainable encounter that forever altered 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,480 the lives of two men and those who bore witness to it. 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,520 These three figures was coming toward us and there wasn't nowhere to run. 33 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,320 When Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker decided to 34 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,000 go fishing after work, nobody could have predicted what would happen next. 35 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,840 We was fishing right where the power poles are, there's a little pier. 36 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,520 But the fishing spot they chose was on private property. 37 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,440 I said, Charlie, we're gonna go to jail for trespassing down here. 38 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,120 He said, no, I fish here all the time. 39 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:49,400 I was fishing and I noticed a reflection off the water, some hazy blue lights. 40 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,960 And that is the color of the lights that the law has around here. 41 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,920 And of course, there's no trespassing signs up. 42 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,080 And I figured me and Charlie was going to jail. 43 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,080 In hindsight, going to jail probably would have 44 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,680 been the better option for the pair, as 45 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,680 what they went on to experience altered their lives forever. 46 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:16,120 You know, my skin was kind of standing up. 47 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,920 So I don't know if I was afraid of going to jail or afraid something else 48 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:21,920 was going to happen. 49 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,960 This case primarily features two very ordinary men. 50 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,200 On the night of October the 11th, 1973, 51 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,520 on the Pascagoula River in Mississippi, these two 52 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,520 ordinary men encountered the extraordinary. 53 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:53,000 And I come here and I think about Charlie and his bad thoughts because I don't 54 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,640 like to think about what happened to us or him breaking the story. 55 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:05,240 I feel betrayed by him because we agreed we was going to keep this quiet and 56 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:05,920 we didn't. 57 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,920 And I never spoke to my dad about it till I got home from the Marine Corps. 58 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,560 And the night we sat down and talked about it, he was telling me what happened. 59 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,320 And all of a sudden he had tears and it's just flowing down his face. 60 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,680 And I asked him, I said, what's wrong? 61 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,000 He said, son, he said, I spent 20 62 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,920 months and 16 days in combat in Korea. 63 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,200 I was scared. 64 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,160 He said, I've never had anything to scare me like these things did. 65 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,680 It scared the hell out of me because I just knew I was going to jail 66 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,600 and it's going to cost money to get out for trespassing. 67 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,520 It got our attention, let me put it like that. 68 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,720 I now firmly believe that this case, when 69 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,480 it comes to close encounter cases, is probably 70 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,520 the best documented case on the record. 71 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,040 I have no doubt about that whatsoever. 72 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:11,520 But just what did these two men see? 73 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,680 What had they experienced on this fateful night in 1973? 74 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,760 The craft came out of the west and landed just about where that big pile of 75 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:25,480 this out there, which was laying. 76 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,880 It kind of shocked our eyes there for a little while. 77 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 You could tell that it was oval shaped. 78 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:39,880 It had two portholes on top and you could see lights coming out of that. 79 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,040 It has the ability to change colors. 80 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,440 This started out as a hazy blue, then it kind of a bluish green. 81 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:56,720 And then I seen some red somewhere and I'm not for sure that the red come 82 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,520 from the craft because there was a car parked over there and it might have been 83 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,400 a brake lights off the car or something. 84 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,240 But it was a little bit of red. 85 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,960 But then the door opened and the lights 86 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,200 got bright because the lights was coming from the inside. 87 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,720 They was blinded, the lights were. 88 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,040 So it kind of shocked our eyes there for a little while. 89 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,400 But the door just slid open and the lights was from the inside. 90 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,560 And almost immediately they seemed like the end 91 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,240 of the craft opened up some way. 92 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 And three things came out of it. 93 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:38,520 These three figures was coming toward us. 94 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,560 You could tell they was bulky looking creatures 95 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,560 like football players or something. 96 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,360 And they was gliding across the swamp grass and there wasn't nowhere to run. 97 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,120 There was debris on the left, debris on the right, water on the front. 98 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,600 With nowhere to run, the men froze in 99 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,320 fear as three figures from the aircraft floated towards them. 100 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Two of them got a hold of Charlie, one of them got a hold of myself. 101 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,320 And they give us, give me a go to hell shot. 102 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,360 I didn't care. 103 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,200 I know they give Charlie one too. 104 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,240 He said they did. 105 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:22,080 They give us the shot in the left arm here and that calmed us down. 106 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Just what were these beings that Calvin and Charles saw that night? 107 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,240 Why were they here? 108 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,680 And where did they come from? 109 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,840 (dramatic music) 110 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,000 These three figures was coming toward us. 111 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,160 You could tell they was bulky looking. 112 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,200 They was gliding across the swamp grass. 113 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,080 They wasn't no separation in the legs and the feet look like a pair of work 114 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,760 boots. 115 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,240 The only moving parts was their arms and 116 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,240 their hands was like crab claws or mittens. 117 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,600 Couldn't really tell what it was. 118 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,960 Believe me, I wasn't looking that hard. 119 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,200 I was trying to think about getting out of there. 120 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,360 He said, I didn't know what they were, where they came from. 121 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,000 And I was so afraid they were going to take me away. 122 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,960 And nobody would ever know what happened to us. 123 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,840 There'd be you, your mom, your brothers and 124 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,000 sisters and they would never find Calvin and I. 125 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,920 And so I knew right then my father was telling the truth. 126 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,680 Fact or fiction. 127 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,600 The close encounter story of Calvin Parker and 128 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:52,520 Charles Hickson is one of the most compelling in history. 129 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,960 When it comes to cases like this, the argument goes three ways. 130 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,560 Not sure what it is, you know, leave it open-ended. 131 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,840 The argument that it's extraterrestrial. 132 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Or that there's some kind of psychological explanation for it. 133 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,080 You know, take your pick. 134 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,600 When it comes to the Pascagoula case specifically, 135 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,560 it's even been claimed that it was some 136 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,480 kind of military experiment that took place that night. 137 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,280 But, you know, the list is endless. 138 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,040 It really is. 139 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,920 And if witnessing a UFO wasn't scary enough, 140 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:33,000 what happened next would stay with the two men for the rest of their lives. 141 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:45,440 And I seemed to just raise up to the level that they were, which they were 142 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,480 about a foot or a foot and a half off of the ground. 143 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,520 And they carried me inside of the spacecraft. 144 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Once aboard the craft, the two men were 145 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,200 separated, with each taken to a different room by the beings. 146 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,240 And what they had to experience next was more fitting for a sci-fi movie. 147 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,080 I didn't see Charlie no more when I went aboard. 148 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,200 They took a left turn, went about 10, 15 foot down the hallway. 149 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,960 And then they turned right into what I call an examination room. 150 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,480 And he said, they took us in that thing. 151 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,920 He said, I'm assuming they took Calvin in. 152 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,680 He said, they took me in first. 153 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:36,200 And he said it was like being in an extremely bright light bulb. 154 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:38,280 He said it was blinding. 155 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,480 And he said, I remember seeing this thing. 156 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,720 I guess it was a wall come out 157 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,960 and to my face, went down my body. 158 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,640 Because he said, I felt like I was suspended in air at a 45 degree angle. 159 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:02,560 And went around my body twice and came back around and back to my face and 160 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,680 just disappeared back into wherever it came from. 161 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,200 Charles experience brings up some questions. 162 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,520 Why had he been chosen? 163 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,280 What were they examining him for? 164 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:19,440 And where was the information they were gathering going to go? 165 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,000 (dramatic music) 166 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,360 He told me they got a hold of him and took him back out. 167 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,720 And he said, Calvin was standing out there 168 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:38,040 by the river with his arms outstretched facing the river. 169 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,920 And he said he was in a state of shock. 170 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,280 When I seen him, he seemed to be going in shock. 171 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,080 I've seen many men in shock. 172 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,720 And he seemed to be going in shock. 173 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Just what had Calvin experienced that night that had left him in such a state? 174 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,160 What did he see? 175 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:04,000 What did he witness? 176 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,360 And how did it affect him? 177 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,200 He laid me on my back and I was facing the ceiling. 178 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,400 When I was laying on the table, this big ugly thing that brought me in went 179 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,680 to a corner and just shut down. 180 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,960 And then there's something about the size of a deck of cards to come out of 181 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:23,760 the ceilings. 182 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,720 It come down within a foot and a half of my head. 183 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,000 And it rotated around my head. 184 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,840 But each time it would go around, you could hear it click, click, click. 185 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:41,040 And what he experienced next stuck with Calvin for the rest of his life. 186 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,480 I was laying on the table and that 187 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:46,840 thing that clicked was running around my head. 188 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:54,040 And that's when I noticed I heard a noise, which wasn't a loud noise, but I 189 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,400 just felt a presence. 190 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:02,240 And that's when she come out of another room and put her finger down my throat. 191 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,400 (dramatic music) 192 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,320 And I started bleeding and there was a lot of blood on me. 193 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,240 She kind of, she, I called her she, 194 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,200 backed up out of the way and made a noise like a bacon call on an 195 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,680 alligator, like a gulp, gulp. 196 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,360 And the big ugly one that I called him, like a jack-in-the-box come alive. 197 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,840 And he come over and picked me up by the arm again. 198 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,560 And I felt a rejection go in my arm. 199 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,840 And I heard a noise like that. 200 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,640 And I was relaxed again. 201 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,880 He carried me out. 202 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,600 I was on the pier, but I was facing the river with my arms stretched out 203 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:50,440 in front of me. 204 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:53,760 And that's where I felt Charlie. 205 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Charlie was, he said, you all right, sir? 206 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:57,600 You all right? 207 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,880 I told Charlie, well, hell no, I'm not all right. 208 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:08,080 And we agreed not to mention nobody and not tell nobody. 209 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,440 Remember, this was 1973. 210 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,680 And they put you in a nut house back in just for thinking it, much less 211 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,840 saying it. 212 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,800 But imagine if, on that night in 1973, 213 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,960 several individuals experienced a similar phenomenon. 214 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,240 What if Charles and Calvin weren't the only 215 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,000 ones to encounter the unexplainable? 216 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Their story wouldn't be so crazy, would it? 217 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Down through the years, there have been reports of unidentified flying objects. 218 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,240 With the dawn of the space age, the frequency of these reports have increased. 219 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Many people believe that these UFOs are indeed 220 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,000 space vehicles from outer space, manned by living 221 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,480 creatures sometimes called humanoids. 222 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,720 On rare occasion, actual contact with these creatures 223 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,800 from space have been reported. 224 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Alien abduction stories have fascinated and puzzled humanity for decades. 225 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,600 Yet they almost always share one curious detail. 226 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:17,680 The experiences are deeply personal, with little to no external eyewitnesses. 227 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Most encounters remain confined to the memories of 228 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,320 the individuals involved, leaving skeptics to question their legitimacy. 229 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,120 But the Pascagoula case is one of few 230 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,760 where multiple independent witnesses came out over the 231 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,560 years, reporting phenomena that aligned with the central story. 232 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,600 Friends and my family think I'm crazy. 233 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,640 It's even hard to make yourself believe it. 234 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,960 I didn't admit what I had seen for years. 235 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Back in that day, if you'd seen a UFO... 236 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,840 It was almost taboo to talk about something like this. 237 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,120 I didn't go out and get on TV or interviews or anything. 238 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,080 I kind of kept it, me and my wife kept it to ourselves, what we've seen. 239 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Back in those days, nobody believed in UFOs. 240 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,200 You really had to be crazy if you said you'd seen one. 241 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,720 Was it mass hysteria? 242 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,080 A series of coincidental misidentifications? 243 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Or could these eyewitnesses offer further proof of 244 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,800 Charles and Calvin's story of abduction? 245 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,600 It was a warm night, as it is here in the South. 246 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,800 We were at the red light, waiting for it to turn green. 247 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:33,360 After a few seconds, I said, Hey, guys, do y'all see what I see? 248 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,080 And they said, yeah, man, it looks like an airplane. 249 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,920 And it's awful low. 250 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,040 It's very low. 251 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,360 We just assumed this airplane was in trouble. 252 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,320 And, you know, hey, man, that thing looks like it's going to crash. 253 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,680 And then it was on top of us. 254 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,120 I looked in the back window, like looking straight up through the back window. 255 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,240 And I watched it go straight up. 256 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,040 Not side, not back and forth, straight up. 257 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,960 And completely disappeared within seconds. 258 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,120 In 1973, I was 32 years old. 259 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,160 I remember that part. 260 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:21,760 I was a crane operator at Walker Shipyard the night of the UFO sighting. 261 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,840 And I seen this thing, it just eased right over. 262 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,840 And it looked like it stopped right in the middle of the Pasco River. 263 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,640 Just stopped, dead still. 264 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:33,280 Maybe a tiny bit of movement, not much. 265 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,840 It was an egg-shaped looking thing. 266 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,440 You really couldn't tell that much about it. 267 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,800 You could tell that it was oval shaped. 268 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,160 You'll never understand totally until you've been there. 269 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,960 You know, I was a senior in high school. 270 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,440 And I was 18 years old. 271 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,000 And this was October. 272 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,760 So it had to have been a Friday night or maybe the Saturday night, which would 273 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,720 have put it at the 12th or 13th. 274 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,160 We were on Espy Avenue fixing to turn east onto Pineville Road. 275 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,440 And we just got a little ways around on Pineville Road. 276 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,400 And all of a sudden, boom! 277 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,720 The whole inside of the car lit up blue. 278 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,920 I'm shocked. 279 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,400 I don't know what's going on. 280 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,880 We were coming from Pasco to Gautier. 281 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:31,560 And as soon as I got up on top of the bridge, I seen these very bright lights. 282 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,080 They were not rotating. 283 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,040 It was just a wide span of bright lights. 284 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Never thought of the fact that it could have been a UFO. 285 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,720 If I had, I would have turned off on the port road and went down there 286 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,880 to see what was going on. 287 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,640 But we came on to Gautier. 288 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,560 And like I said, didn't hear it on the news till 10 o'clock. 289 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,600 But it was pretty amazing to see that, 290 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,280 you know, to witness it. 291 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,240 And then not realize what I was even seeing at the time. 292 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,360 Seemed like quite a few people had seen something. 293 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,800 It was unexplanatory, you know, that evening. 294 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:06,920 I had walked outside to take out the trash. 295 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,760 I looked up above the house and there 296 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 was a red, white, and blue flashing light. 297 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,760 It has the ability to change colors. 298 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,480 It had no wings. 299 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,600 It had no manner of propulsion that I could tell. 300 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,760 No vapor trail. 301 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,320 We watched this thing make some of the 302 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:32,440 most, some of the most incredible turns you've ever seen. 303 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,760 They would make 90 degree angles at just 304 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,080 such a fast pace that there's no possible 305 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:43,600 way that a human being could, you know, could be in there because the g-forces 306 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,720 would be so bad. 307 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,960 But it was like you would take the arrow on a computer screen and just take 308 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,040 the mouse and just wiggle it all around. 309 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:53,520 That's the way this thing was moved. 310 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:57,560 You know, I was always, I've been interested in astronomy for years. 311 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,360 So I always kind of watched the sky anyway. 312 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:06,760 I had taken my dogs out in the backyard and just idly waiting on the dogs. 313 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:12,000 They got their evening run and I noticed something in the west. 314 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:14,360 But first, of course, thought it was a plane. 315 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,320 I realized that's not a plane. 316 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,000 I have no idea what I'm looking at, but it doesn't look like any plane I'd 317 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,000 ever seen before. 318 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:30,760 I want to use the word hovered, kind of stayed in one position for, oh, several 319 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,440 minutes. 320 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:38,480 And then it slowly started to move to the south and it stopped. 321 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,120 And then it moved slowly to the north and it stopped. 322 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,400 It moved back toward the south and it stopped. 323 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,880 It did this probably at least three or four times. 324 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,240 And then before I could even recognize really 325 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,760 what was happening, it, the only words I can use is it shot off to the 326 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,840 north and disappeared. 327 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,960 This was in the afternoon. 328 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:09,680 I was riding my bicycle down the street and it caught my eye. 329 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:15,280 There was this green smoke and I ran inside and told my mother and finally got 330 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:17,280 her to come out there and she saw it too. 331 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,640 And maybe, I don't know, 10 to 15 332 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,000 minutes, it just sort of faded out. 333 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,480 And after it did, all of a sudden this thing appeared out of nowhere. 334 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,360 Just looked like it just popped out of thin air. 335 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,280 And I assume we were looking up at the bottom of it. 336 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,080 What makes this case different to most, if 337 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,000 not all the others, is the fact that 338 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:56,040 we have a growing number of independent, first 339 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:58,320 -hand eyewitnesses. 340 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,040 And that is like, unlike anything I've ever come across before. 341 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,600 Whilst these eyewitnesses took decades to reveal their 342 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,720 stories of that night, for Charles and Calvin 343 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,640 in 1973, they had to make a decision. 344 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,200 Would they keep their encounter secret or try 345 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,920 to convince the world of what had happened to them? 346 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Charlie wanted to call somebody and tell them, said, no, let's not. 347 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,760 I didn't see nothing. 348 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,000 I'm just going to act like I don't remember nothing, like I was blacked out. 349 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,880 And I couldn't stay, say, you know, distinctly 350 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,760 because I was at the point where I passed out. 351 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,200 Which at the time, that was probably the best thing I could do because I didn't 352 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,000 like people. 353 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,040 I didn't like pressure. 354 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,480 I didn't want nobody to know. 355 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:57,920 I had just started the job with him, so we agreed on that. 356 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,160 We wasn't going to mention nobody. 357 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,600 But unknown to Calvin, Charles had other ideas. 358 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,560 I think daddy's the one that made the 359 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,920 decision that, yes, they should tell someone. 360 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,560 And I can understand Calvin not wanting to 361 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,160 get in the limelight and everything like that. 362 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,520 My father, I guess, just thought it was too important to ignore. 363 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,760 Directly after the alleged happening, Charles told Calvin 364 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,640 to drive to the Mississippi press room to 365 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,120 share their news with a reporter, going against what they had agreed. 366 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,800 Once there, the two men met with accusations 367 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,400 of being drunk to craft such an unbelievable story. 368 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,800 Now we have social media, seeing comments online 369 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,040 that, oh, what were these two Southern guys drinking? 370 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,520 Well, you know, they either weren't drinking, but 371 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,760 even if they have, you know, anybody watching 372 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,560 this today, have you been drunk at any point? 373 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,800 Did you hallucinate an alien abduction? 374 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,440 I don't think so. 375 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,880 So, but they weren't drinking anyway. 376 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,120 It's as simple as that. 377 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,680 The press office directed them to speak with 378 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,680 the police, as their story was impossible to 379 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,280 believe and therefore wasn't newsworthy. 380 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,720 So we called the sheriff's department and they 381 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,000 told us to wait, to wait right here for them. 382 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,840 I was on patrol and I heard some chatter on the radio and I heard some 383 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,440 officer talking about it. 384 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,600 And I didn't understand everything, but they were 385 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,440 talking about someone had been abducted by a UFO and everything. 386 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,520 Personally, at that point, I thought it was just a joke or the guys were just 387 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,640 talking about it. 388 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:02,400 Officers at night, late at night, and we all did, we would do funny things. 389 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,320 We'd get bored and, you know, we'd put 390 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,640 out different traffic on the radio, just to 391 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,360 make everybody laugh and keep them awake. 392 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,760 And they showed up just a few minutes later. 393 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,840 And that's when they, of course, we was in my car and I was driving. 394 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,240 They walked up to the door. 395 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,200 They looked in the car. 396 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,840 They asked me to see the driver's license and to step out. 397 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,320 I stepped out of the car. 398 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,880 They told me to stand on my left leg, raise my right leg, and bend my 399 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,720 head back, touch my nose, close my eyes, 400 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,280 and count to 200 backwards and jump up and down. 401 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,440 Of course, I told them I couldn't do that sober, much less if I was drinking. 402 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,400 But they put me through the meal. 403 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,720 There's a little sobriety test. 404 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,280 We walked around and all. 405 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:02,680 And finally, Glenn Ryder said, you sober enough to drive anyway. 406 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Follow us to the police sheriff's department. 407 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Walking into the Jackson County Sheriff's Department, the 408 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,000 two probably knew their story would be tough for anyone to believe. 409 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,360 But for Charles, it was a story he needed to tell. 410 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,520 I was with the Pascagoula Police Department in 411 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,480 1973 when all of the UFO stuff happened. 412 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,080 This is my riot shotgun. 413 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:43,960 It gave a lot of people religion. 414 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Bill Gennaro worked for Pascagoula PD and then 415 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,960 later on, he worked with me in the 416 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,480 Jackson County Sheriff's Department in the early 90s. 417 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:59,800 In some places, I was referred to as the M.F. with the silver shotgun. 418 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,280 He was a pretty good investigator. 419 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,800 I can't tell you nothing bad about the man. 420 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,520 He was right here in the midst of everything. 421 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,080 And I'm sure he'd know things I'd never know. 422 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,080 I'd never met Calvin, but you know, Charlie, 423 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,400 due to his drinking, was pretty well known to the law enforcement in the area. 424 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,120 Probably if he'd have been the only one 425 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,400 that came in reporting the abduction, they probably 426 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,760 would have just laughed at him. 427 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,800 But Calvin, no, he, you know, straight up, 428 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,280 not a drinker at all is what I understand. 429 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,120 And that lent a lot of credence to it. 430 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,360 When inside the Sheriff's Department, the two men 431 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,520 were taken to separate interrogation rooms where they 432 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,600 were questioned on what had happened. 433 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,200 They kept saying, well, Calvin, you can tell the truth now. 434 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,920 You won't be in no trouble right now. 435 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,800 But if we keep on, you're going to be, this is a hoax. 436 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,440 You're going to be in a lot of trouble. 437 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,800 Of course, it wasn't no hoax, so I wouldn't tell them nothing. 438 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,960 Whilst Calvin stayed quiet, Charles was in the 439 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,720 other room relaying his story of abduction to the police. 440 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,200 You know, you see something like that, it’ll scare you to death! 441 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,640 And I couldn’t believe it. 442 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,280 And, you know, you think you’re dreaming about something like that, you know. 443 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,600 And Calvin just-he went hysterical, you know. 444 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,800 I was scared to death. 445 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,440 Two of ‘em just floated around behind me 446 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,480 and lifted me off the ground. 447 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,160 You said they had some kind of instrument on you, didn’t you? 448 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Some kind of instrument I don’t know what it was. 449 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,120 I’ve seen instruments, but I’ve never seen, nothing like that before in my life. 450 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,880 There ain’t no way to describe it. 451 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,800 It didn’t try to communicate with you? 452 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,120 It looked like an eye. 453 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,040 You know, like a big eye. 454 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,480 Unsurprisingly, it was hard for the police department 455 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,440 to believe what they were being told. 456 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,400 The story of two men being abducted by 457 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,800 aliens felt more like a Hollywood movie plot than a real life event. 458 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:16,240 I personally never saw any physical evidence for 459 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,880 me to be convinced to believe it. 460 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,920 I'm not saying it's not true. 461 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,360 I'm talking about me. 462 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,160 Unconvinced by their story, the police devised a 463 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,480 plan to get the men to admit that this was all a hoax. 464 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,160 They set up a secret audio recorder in 465 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,200 an interrogation room and sent both Calvin and Charles in. 466 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,560 And they wanted to hear us talk to each other. 467 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,040 They thought we'd laugh and tell how we got off on them. 468 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,920 But neither the sheriff nor his deputies could 469 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,160 have imagined what would come next. 470 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,640 I never heard it, but I understand it would stand a hair upon the back of 471 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,320 your head. 472 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,120 The way they were talking, it was, it was no scam. 473 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,560 They were scared to death. 474 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,000 (dramatic music) 475 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,040 All I remember is just a blur. 476 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Just like you looked through that wall right 477 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,440 there, I seen a ghost or something come through. 478 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,800 I don’t know where-I was just so scared or what. 479 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880 When we get through us, we'll go by the perimeter. 480 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,600 I'll get you something to settle you down so you can get some damn sleep. 481 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,160 I can't sleep yet like it is. I’m just damn near crazy. 482 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680 I remember my arms, they just froze up just like that. 483 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,560 I couldn't move. Just like I stepped on a damn ratlesnake. 484 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,280 I paralyzed right there. 485 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,760 They were surprised when they heard us talking. 486 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,160 You know, Calvin's literally crawling up the walls, almost crying. 487 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,440 I think he says a prayer at one point. 488 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,560 And it was that that convinced the sheriff 489 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,360 and his deputy that something, something, you know, 490 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,840 unusual had happened to these two gentlemen. 491 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,040 They weren't lying. 492 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,080 They weren't hoaxing. 493 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,080 You know, it's a powerful piece of evidence. 494 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,920 It really is. 495 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,320 (dramatic music) 496 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,840 I'm Dr. Irina Scott. 497 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,400 I'm an investigator of the Pascagoula case. 498 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:27,440 I've been investigating some aspects of it since about the 1980s. 499 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:34,400 There was a big supply of mysteries in 1973 in the fall, much more than at 500 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,920 any normal time. 501 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,120 And so Pascagoula wasn't exactly strange because it 502 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,840 was happening all over the country. 503 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,760 In UFO circles, we use a term called a flap. 504 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,600 And basically what a flap is, is a 505 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:59,560 high concentration of UFO sightings from a particular 506 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,080 area or geographical location over a certain period 507 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,000 of time, like an increase in reported sightings. 508 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:14,080 And 1973 was the year of such a flap. 509 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,440 One of these reports was coming from over 200 miles away. 510 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,640 And this one was just as strange and 511 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,440 extraordinary as Charles and Calvin's encounter. 512 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,960 I don't know if it was the same craft or it was a different craft, but 513 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,760 it did happen that same night. 514 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,000 There were constant sightings being reported from California, 515 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:46,280 through Oklahoma, through Texas, through Missouri, through Arkansas, 516 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,400 that there was a good chance if we went out, we would see something. 517 00:32:52,920 --> 00:33:00,200 And not be knowns to me, that night happened to be October 11th, 1973. 518 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,280 I told my friend, if we go out tonight, we may see something. 519 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,760 So we went way out away from the town where we live, away from the city 520 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,520 lights. 521 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,640 There was no distractions. 522 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,560 We ended up way, way out in the 523 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,160 countryside, where there was an abundance of cow 524 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,400 pastures and no paved roads, just gravel roads. 525 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,640 And we stopped on the gravel road in the middle of nowhere. 526 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:39,360 We got out of the car and I looked up and there was a red light 527 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,200 and it was moving from west to east across the sky. 528 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,160 All of a sudden it stopped and it 529 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,160 turned a green, an emerald green with no 530 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:52,920 sound. 531 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:59,120 And it started to come down on an angle, about a 45 degree angle. 532 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:06,600 When we came up the other side, it was coming down across the road and it 533 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,720 turned yellow in front of us. 534 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,240 I told my friend, drive faster. 535 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,600 He was driving so fast, it was like we were hydroplaning on the gravel. 536 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,360 I told my friend, blink your lights off and on. 537 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,160 He said, it looked like something dropped out of it. 538 00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:27,440 It turned purple and I didn't see that. 539 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:29,000 He stopped the car. 540 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,400 We got out of the car. 541 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,760 We were on the side of the road again. 542 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,000 There was a ditch and a fence. 543 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,680 There was another cow pasture. 544 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,840 And this, whatever it was, was above that 545 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,640 cow pasture, no more than 50 yards from us, not more than 100 feet in the air. 546 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:51,520 And it was pulsating green, red, orange, green, 547 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,160 red, orange in the most vibrant colors. 548 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,880 It has the ability to change colors. 549 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:06,360 And you couldn't make out the shape of the craft because when the red would go, 550 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,000 the orange is there. 551 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,120 And when the oranges go, the green was there. 552 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,280 I mean, it was blood red and emerald green. 553 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,840 It was incredible. 554 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,080 And there wasn't a breeze. 555 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,960 There wasn't a sound. 556 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,560 We were standing in total darkness, watching this amazing thing. 557 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:27,360 And I'll never forget the words. 558 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,160 I turned to my friend and I said, 559 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,400 you're looking at something from another world. 560 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,640 Even further afield was Rosario Nail, who on 561 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,960 the same October night in 1973, witnessed something 562 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680 extraordinary in the night sky. 563 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,360 It still scares me to talk about it. 564 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,960 I mean, I feel my heart rate, 565 00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:01,200 you know, picking up and stuff, because I just don't know what it was. 566 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,000 Her encounter with the extraterrestrial marked an eerily 567 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,920 similar resemblance to what Charles and Calvin witnessed. 568 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,720 Were they connected? 569 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,120 Or was it just a coincidence? 570 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,280 I was 20, 21. 571 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,880 I had gone to a girlfriend's house. 572 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:31,720 And so we're sitting on her porch and it's about, it had gotten dark, so it 573 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,000 was about 8, 39 o'clock. 574 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,760 And in that part of the country is pitch black. 575 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,280 There's no street lights because it was very rural. 576 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,400 We were out in the country. 577 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,360 And so when I say we're sitting on the porch looking at the stars, I mean, 578 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,520 you could see the stars are brilliant because 579 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,560 there's nothing to interfere with that. 580 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:02,600 So we're sitting there talking and we're looking up. 581 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,840 And all of a sudden I went, oh, wow, look, do you see the fallen star? 582 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,640 And I pointed to it. 583 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:14,520 And she said, yeah, I see it. 584 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:22,680 Well, then as it's coming down, then I realized it's going across the sky. 585 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,280 And I'm like, wait, that can't be a fallen star. 586 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,720 But it was big. 587 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:34,640 And then all of a sudden three lights emitted from it. 588 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,480 But you could see three figures coming out of the light. 589 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,440 And I'm like, oh, wow. 590 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,080 Because then I'm thinking that it's a meteorite 591 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,200 and then it exploded or something. 592 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,840 But what happened next would prove that whatever 593 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,680 Rosario was looking at, it definitely wasn't a meteor. 594 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,360 But these three separate balls emitted 595 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,760 from it and they went that way, which 596 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,960 would have been south. 597 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,160 It comes down and the farther down it 598 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:19,680 comes, I mean, it literally looked like the sun. 599 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,120 It was that big. 600 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,480 And then when it's coming down, I could 601 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,720 hear dogs in the distance, like everybody in the country has a dog. 602 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,760 But these dogs were barking like 603 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000 they were trying to attack something. 604 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,960 And then it moved across the sky about that far. 605 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:51,440 And then it shot straight up. 606 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,480 I mean, like that. 607 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,040 Like, holy crap. 608 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,760 Didn't have any kind of weird feeling or anything until it went in reverse. 609 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,960 Then I was terrified at that point. 610 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,120 I don't know why. 611 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,600 I knew it wasn't normal and it wasn't a natural phenomenon. 612 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,880 But that's what happened that night. 613 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,880 I did not know at the time, but the next day in the paper, there was 614 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,400 an article printed about a whole family in 615 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,680 a small community to the north of where we were standing. 616 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,160 That saw the same object. 617 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,320 Another sighting of a UFO was reported to 618 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,960 the DI, which is the local paper called 619 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,240 the Daily Iberian, by an area resident Friday. 620 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,040 The Iberia is probably about 200 miles to 621 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,640 the west of Pascagoula in coastal Louisiana. 622 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,880 It would be west of New Orleans. 623 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,160 Curly Miguez Jr. of Lydia said he and 624 00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,920 his wife, Kenneth Robichaux, and a host of 625 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,160 Robichaux neighbors sighted a UFO Thursday night. 626 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,760 Miguez said he observed what was certain to 627 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,160 be some type of aircraft, which increased its 628 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:24,040 speed at times, hovered, and sometimes even zigzagged. 629 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:32,960 1973 was a very busy year for UFO activity all over the states as well as 630 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,640 the world. 631 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,320 And also the interesting thing about that is 632 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,160 that sometimes these flaps seem to appear when 633 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,160 there's a lot of geopolitical things happening. 634 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,160 For example, in 1973, you had Watergate going 635 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:52,320 on, you had issues with Iran, and you had the energy crisis was beginning. 636 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,840 All of these things were happening, and there's 637 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,440 a UFO flap that's sort of underneath it, 638 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,960 under the news of everything that's going on. 639 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,120 Well, in 1973, if you said you saw 640 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,880 a UFO, you were immediately considered a crackpot. 641 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,720 You know, yeah, oh, those crazy people that see UFOs. 642 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,440 Yeah, no, we don't want to talk to you. 643 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,640 You know, we don't, well, thank you, see ya. 644 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,960 No one wanted to admit they had seen something. 645 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,680 I didn't admit what I had seen for years. 646 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,840 I'm J. 647 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,520 Michael Long. 648 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,000 I'm a documentary film producer in Waco, Texas, 649 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,760 but I grew up in Ellisville, Mississippi, which 650 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,720 is about 90 miles north of Pascagoula. 651 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,680 I was 12 years old when this happened, 652 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:44,120 and we had gone to Laurel, Mississippi to 653 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,280 Sears, and I bought, I got a football. 654 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,600 By the time we got home, it was getting dark, and I couldn't get out in 655 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,040 the yard and play with the football, so I just went out into the street in 656 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,480 front of the house where there was a 657 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,040 streetlight, and I was throwing the football up 658 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,440 in the air and catching it, and at one point, I threw the ball up, wind 659 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,640 blew it or whatever, and it landed over in my yard, so I walked up the 660 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:09,840 little slope, and I reached down to pick the football up, and as I did, I 661 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,880 looked to the north, and there was this orange ball in the sky, and I didn't 662 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,800 know what that was. 663 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,920 I mean, I was 12 years old. 664 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,120 I didn't know anything about UFOs or anything 665 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,760 of that nature, and this ball was moving 666 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,440 very, very slowly, but it was just tracking 667 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,200 across the sky, and I remember, as I 668 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,480 stood there watching it, I was riveted, and 669 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,880 I couldn't move, and I was watching it, and when it got directly in front, I 670 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,440 remember thinking to myself that you could put 671 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,120 my mother's car inside this thing at least twice. 672 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,240 I believe that there was probably something solid 673 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,760 that was emanating, you know, illuminating the light, 674 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,680 but it was so bright, it was difficult 675 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,000 to see anything that might have been inside it, and he said it was like being 676 00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:00,480 in an extremely bright light bulb, and it 677 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,200 continued to drift and drift and drift until finally it went to the horizon. 678 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,680 It looked like a little star in the distance, and it went over the horizon, and 679 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,960 it was headed south to the coast. 680 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,320 Whatever it was that J. 681 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,520 Michael saw, it was now heading in the direction of Pascagoula. 682 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,360 Could it have been the same thing that Charles and Calvin saw? 683 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,480 The adults were snickering and joking and laughing 684 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,280 about the two guys in Pascagoula that claimed 685 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,400 they were abducted by aliens, and that's when 686 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,920 I, you know, I realized that the night that what I saw was the same night 687 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,920 that they were abducted. 688 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,080 (dramatic music) 689 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,640 By the following morning, the local press had 690 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,120 a hold of the story, and now Calvin 691 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,200 and Charles' experience was the talk of Pascagoula. 692 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,400 It was just a few minutes' drive to the shipyard where we was working. 693 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,800 We pulled up. 694 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,680 There was TV trucks with the uplinks stuck up in the air and all. 695 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,960 There was a bunch of them. 696 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:08,040 The guy that owned the shipyard said, Calvin 697 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,520 Parker and Charlie Hickson come to the office. 698 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,720 He said, y'all gonna have to give a press release or something because we can't 699 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,080 even use the phones, and I realized then the story was out. 700 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,240 It really hit me. 701 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,080 Everybody knew then. 702 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,280 With Charles' and Calvin's story now out in 703 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,880 the open, other eyewitnesses started to realize that 704 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,320 what they'd seen wasn't an anomaly. 705 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:38,280 It was really exciting up until I heard on the news. 706 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,160 They called it an alien encounter that had happened the previous night. 707 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,360 Calvin and Charlie had been abducted. 708 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,200 It was all on the front page. 709 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,280 And they described what they saw, and both seemed to be in a state of shock. 710 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,400 And that's when it really bothered me. 711 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,200 My heart jumped up in my throat. 712 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,440 I'm thinking, you know, that could have been us. 713 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,040 People were scared. 714 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,880 People were spreading rumors. 715 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,320 For many, the story of Charles Hickson and 716 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,480 Calvin Parker's encounter with an unknown craft seemed 717 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,120 almost too extraordinary to believe. 718 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,920 But for the two men at the center of the experience, the ordeal was very real. 719 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,640 Word of their encounter quickly reached authorities, and 720 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:30,800 before long, the two men were summoned to Keesler Air Force Base. 721 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,560 It was a step neither man had sought out, but one they felt compelled to take 722 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,360 as the world around them began to close in. 723 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,320 Both gents went to Keesler Air Force Base to be checked for radiation. 724 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,080 The same Keesler Air Force Base on the night before the tournament got lost. 725 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,080 Daddy told me that they had people in radiation suits at the gate. 726 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,480 And they not got our counters, but something they had to detect radiation. 727 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,600 They run it over. 728 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,040 They found a little bit. 729 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,120 You know, why be in radiation suits if you didn't think something happened? 730 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,120 I worked in the oil field, and I worked around on gamma rays and all that. 731 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,280 Plus, welding puts out a certain amount of 732 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,040 radiation, and I had been welding all day. 733 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,080 They said, all clear. 734 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,560 Everybody pulled their suits off. 735 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,440 They said, some of the brass wants to see you in the back. 736 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,880 I said, while you're there, gents, why don't 737 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,440 you sit down and tell us what's happened? 738 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:33,960 We followed them down the hall. 739 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,000 It seemed like it took hours to get. 740 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,600 It was just a matter of five minutes, probably. 741 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,880 But it seemed like it took hours to get walked out hall. 742 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,680 And we opened the door, and there was 743 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,680 all kind of brass in there, which officers. 744 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,440 And it was the police department from every 745 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,480 major city on the coast, the sheriff's department, 746 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,400 and some of the military brass. 747 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,520 And it was mainly Charlie talking, you know. 748 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,960 And we know that because we have a transcript of the meeting. 749 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,120 (dramatic music) 750 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,480 Charlie was my spokesman by then, and I let him make the fool, what I thought, 751 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,240 make the fool out of himself. 752 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:29,840 And I'm going to go on, and everybody forget about me in a day or two, 753 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,520 you know. 754 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,800 And that wasn't the case. 755 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,720 Fred Diamond, which was a sheriff, said for 756 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,880 us not to leave, that somebody was there to see us, which was Dr. Heineck and 757 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,960 Dr. Harder. 758 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,160 Of all the men in the UFO field today, the name of Dr. J. 759 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:49,920 Allen Heineck tops the list. 760 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,040 The former Blue Book investigator for the Air 761 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,840 Force and current head of the astronomy department at Northwestern University. 762 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,680 Heineck was over Project Blue Bull, and he had flown in from California. 763 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,960 How he found out about it and got there that fast, I don't know. 764 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,560 Because really, it didn't hit the media until 765 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,680 that same morning, and he was there that evening. 766 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:20,000 And that was just unheard of, to come from California that far in a day's time. 767 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,480 Because of his expertise in the field of 768 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,680 UFOs, Dr. Heineck is called to the scene of every major UFO sighting. 769 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,720 He was summoned to Pascagoula, Mississippi last October, 770 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,120 hours after two shipyard workers, Charles Hickson and 771 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,240 Calvin Parker, stumbled into a sheriff's office and 772 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,520 said they had been taken aboard a flying saucer. 773 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,720 Dr. Heineck really is the one that got me out of the shell to start with. 774 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,800 I talked to him about it. 775 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:55,600 I would call him, and he would call me and check on me probably once a week. 776 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:01,080 Dr. Heineck also talked about other cases going on. 777 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,680 I guess he was doing that to try to relax, relax me and get me where 778 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,600 it opened me up and get me where I would talk about it. 779 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,760 (dramatic music) 780 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,120 But he was a blessing. 781 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,880 It was the only good thing that come out right when that happened. 782 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:29,560 We got to work that morning, and Dr. 783 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,080 Heineck pulled me in. 784 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,240 Dr. Harder pulled Charlie in. 785 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,200 And then Charlie and I traded spots, and 786 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,240 Dr. Harder tried to, well, he did hypnotize me. 787 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,120 No reason to be afraid. Just tell us what happened. 788 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,280 Three creatures came out of the door. 789 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,920 Scared. 790 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,480 Tried to block it out of my mind. 791 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,200 When this first happened, I would tell everybody I just passed out. 792 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,080 I didn't know nothing. 793 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,320 I didn't remember nothing. 794 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,800 And I couldn't say, you know, distinctly, because 795 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,640 I was at the point where I passed out. 796 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,680 Did you get any sensation at all of hear, or cold? 797 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,840 No. 798 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,440 I’m scared. 799 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:23,160 I don't even so much remember being hypnotized too much. 800 00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:29,680 I know I got chills running up my spine, and I started shaking real bad. 801 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,160 That's when he brought me out. 802 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,040 I probably wasn't under it for 30 minutes. 803 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,680 Just enough to relax. 804 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,440 I remember him tying balloons to me and floating off. 805 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:42,640 That was about it. 806 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,320 (dramatic music) 807 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,000 The ship is gone. 808 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,280 It disappeared. 809 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,840 They keep coming back in my mind. 810 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,560 They just keep coming back in my mind. 811 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,680 This is something that you’ve got to know about 812 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,200 Calvin, it’s not going to be something that’s going to continuously worry you. 813 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,360 You’re gradually going to get over this. 814 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,280 It brought back some memories, and I guess 815 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,440 he was trying to bring back memories there 816 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,200 that scared me, because I sure didn't want to remember it. 817 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,840 I believe my subconscious mind might have blocked 818 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,040 it out, because back then I couldn't handle it. 819 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:36,120 I mean, I can handle about anything, and I wasn't scared of nothing, but I was 820 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,000 scared of that. 821 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,640 I went down to Pascagoula completely negative, but 822 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,440 I worked with those men for quite a while. 823 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,840 I listened to tapes that had been taken 824 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,400 where they didn't know they were being taped. 825 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:59,200 I saw how Charlie behaved under hypnosis, and finally the lie detector test. 826 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:03,720 All of those things convinced me that he was not making it up. 827 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,760 They had an experience, period. 828 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,800 You have to then judge by his past 829 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,880 reputation, how he's regarded in the community. 830 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,720 Would he have any reason to do it? 831 00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:15,360 All that sort of thing. 832 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,880 But it’s such a pattern, you see, that's not an isolated case. 833 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,440 We have a catalog now of well over 800 such cases. 834 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,920 Charles and Calvin's story sent Pascagoula into a 835 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,760 frenzy, with hundreds of people taking to the 836 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,200 streets and beaches to catch a glimpse of 837 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,360 whatever it was that abducted the two men. 838 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,560 And for Bill Gennaro, his involvement in the 839 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,400 case was about to become a whole lot more personal. 840 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,000 This was the third day after the abduction. 841 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,760 The west end of the beach, there were, I don't know, a hundred or more people 842 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,360 for the first two nights. 843 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,000 But on the third night, there was only two women and a 14-year-old boy. 844 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,720 And I was just, you know, patrolling. 845 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,880 And I pulled up and said, have you seen any little green men? 846 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,080 I mean, we got a laugh. 847 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,960 And then the 14-year-old pointed and said, what's that? 848 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:20,120 (dramatic music) 849 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,680 Got out and started looking. 850 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,880 Looked like a blue cigar. 851 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,840 And I noticed a reflection off the water, some hazy blue light. 852 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,600 Basically, there was no other shape to it than that. 853 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,000 We were watching it. 854 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,960 And it was there for a couple minutes. 855 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,000 And then it headed west in an arc. 856 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,680 It came to rest 180 degrees behind us, 857 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,640 where the abduction was supposed to have happened. 858 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:51,840 And we watched it for a little bit. 859 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,200 Then it came back 90 degrees west and went gone. 860 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,840 Now, it made no sound. 861 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,240 There were no flashing lights. 862 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,960 Weather balloons don't fly that way. 863 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,680 Helicopters make noise. 864 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,080 I don't know what it was. 865 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,920 I didn't think of any other reason for them to be in that area except to 866 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,960 be looking for somebody else to pick up. 867 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,160 Women wanted a report. 868 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,640 And I said, I'll tell you what. 869 00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:23,880 You come to the station with me and tell the captain. 870 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,720 Then I'll write a report. 871 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,360 And I did. 872 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,440 And the procedure at the time was that 873 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,520 the media did not get reports until the clerks cleared it. 874 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,920 Unfortunately, one of the newspaper reporters got there 875 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,440 early and grabbed the reports. 876 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,000 And when it hit the paper, I had to hide. 877 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,560 I was dodging media left and right. 878 00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:55,320 The chief obviously was not overly happy. 879 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,560 And his opinion was, keep your eyes on the ground, don't look up. 880 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:06,800 Whatever it was Bill Gennaro saw was eerily 881 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,760 similar to what Charles and Calvin had experienced 882 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,120 just three nights previously. 883 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:19,000 Something strange was happening in Pascagoula and nobody knew why. 884 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,000 Amid the growing frenzy of eyewitness accounts and 885 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,520 widespread speculation, Dr. Heinecke decided to visit the 886 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,680 site where Charles and Calvin had reported their abduction. 887 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,680 But by the time he arrived, the location had already been overrun. 888 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,640 He wanted to go to the site to see what it was. 889 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,600 I didn't walk on the site with him, but I went out there anyway. 890 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,240 And I remember him being mad because the 891 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,680 police department didn't have it ribboned off. 892 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,360 The site was now contaminated, littered with footprints, 893 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,520 disturbances and signs of human activity. 894 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,320 Whatever clues the original scene might have held 895 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,760 were lost, making it even harder to separate fact from fiction. 896 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,840 And people were stomping all over there. 897 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,720 Reporters was all over it. 898 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,400 The law enforcement was all over it trying to get the reporters off. 899 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:17,160 (dramatic music) 900 00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:19,360 Kids had rode a bicycle over there. 901 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,920 And I remember the law running them off. 902 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:30,400 And later on, way down the road, one of the kids that rode the bicycle had 903 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:37,000 told me about, they went over and seen a spot on the ground where this thing 904 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,720 had landed. 905 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:43,280 With another eyewitness coming forward, albeit decades later, 906 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:48,240 the story of Charles and Calvin's encounter was becoming harder to dismiss. 907 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:53,400 (dramatic music) 908 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,960 My whole name is Bratton Claybrook Caldwell. 909 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,560 I go by Clay Caldwell. 910 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,000 I was born here in Pasco, Mississippi. 911 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,320 My father was an attorney at Ingalls Shipbuilding at the time. 912 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,840 He had got a phone call. 913 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,920 I suppose they were concerned about the fact 914 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,400 that two men had been abducted by a 915 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,640 UFO and had reported that, that worked there at the Ingalls Shipbuilding. 916 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,520 My mother was sitting there and she was 917 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,040 like, what, you know, what are they saying? 918 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:24,720 What are they saying? 919 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,600 You know, so he was explaining to my 920 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,120 mother, well, it happened down there at the 921 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,120 river, at the little fishing pier, just south of the drawbridge. 922 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,480 So immediately I knew where he was talking 923 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,840 about because we used to go fishing ourselves as kids. 924 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:44,960 That Friday, I spoke with some of my friends and said, hey, do y'all want 925 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,360 to go see where the aliens landed? 926 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,760 Would y'all like to go see that? 927 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,360 You know, I know where it is. 928 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,880 One or two of them were like, yeah, but what if something happens? 929 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,160 You know, they come get us. 930 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,160 What if they, what if they're still there? 931 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,280 And then it started coming up, what if they dropped something? 932 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,240 You know, so as kids, we're thinking, oh, we're going to find a ray gun or 933 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,000 we're going to find something from another planet, you know? 934 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:09,840 So that's what we did. 935 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,680 And we knew we had to be quick. 936 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,080 We had to be fast because we knew that, you know, if this was ever found 937 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,960 out, we're in hot water. 938 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,360 So we got out there to where the pier was. 939 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,120 We kind of scattered around all on the ground, went out on the pier, you know, 940 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,680 looking, we're looking for anything that, you know, 941 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,240 may have been left by an alien. 942 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,440 And we decided, you know, well, where did it land? 943 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:41,640 We decided, well, let's go out here and look in the weeds and the tall grass 944 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:42,640 and stuff, you know? 945 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,240 I say I used to go out in the woods all the time. 946 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:50,400 I wasn't scared to go out in a little bit of tall grass and weeds. 947 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,000 So we made our way through. 948 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,000 And I'll just never forget. 949 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,040 It was just a feeling when we first saw it. 950 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,760 We were like, whoa. 951 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,920 (dramatic music) 952 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,200 It was about a 30 foot, 25, 30 953 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,800 foot wide circle of nothing all of a sudden. 954 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,520 It was just flat. 955 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,240 You would have had to gone in and just cut literally with scissors. 956 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,280 Something so sharp. 957 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,800 I've never been able to imagine what kind 958 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,200 of machine could do that and leave nothing behind. 959 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,120 You know, it's not like it was just 960 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,360 pushed over, like something just landed on top of it. 961 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:49,320 It was like, it's though something came from above and just removed everything. 962 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:56,600 We just kind of never really talked about it because we didn't want to get in 963 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,760 trouble from being somewhere we weren't supposed to be. 964 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,080 And over the years as I grew older and up, you know, I never really even 965 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:09,640 told my wife about all this until that day we were going to go see this 966 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,360 Platte that was being put at the river. 967 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,920 And on the way, I opened up to her. 968 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,760 Oh, I'm sorry. 969 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,440 But it kind of disturbs me. 970 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,280 It's like anything else you've held inside of you for all these years. 971 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,200 And I didn't expect to do this. 972 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,480 For Clay Caldwell, his memory of what he 973 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:04,640 saw that day had lingered unresolved, a burden he carried alone for decades. 974 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,000 His story, like so many others tied to 975 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,800 the Pascagoula abduction, was a reminder of how 976 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,440 deeply this event affected those who came close to it. 977 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,080 Pascagoula was just beginning to settle back into 978 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,720 normalcy after the chaos of the abduction story. 979 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,240 The town was still buzzing with speculation, 980 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,440 but life had started to move on. 981 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:36,000 And then, just weeks later, another strange event 982 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,880 shook the community when a mysterious object was 983 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,640 reportedly seen in the waters nearby. 984 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,800 Three little boats gone out fishing and they 985 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,640 see something under the water. 986 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,360 It's circular. 987 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,000 It's illuminated. 988 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,000 It was segmented. 989 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,480 They said it looked like one of the old-fashioned parachutes. 990 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:00,920 It was segmented. 991 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,080 And they got so close to it that they could hit it with an oar and 992 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:05,960 it went plunk. 993 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,280 And one of those fishermen, there's only one 994 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,000 of that party that went out that night still alive. 995 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,840 There was eight, I believe, all together. 996 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,120 This chap called the old Ryan. 997 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,800 We know what we see at night. 998 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,240 And my daddy, he was going to go down to the dock and look down and 999 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:25,440 see what was going on. 1000 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,080 He was going to tell them what it was. 1001 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,000 And he kept poking that, poking that. 1002 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,280 It sounded like it hit a piece of metal. 1003 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,920 That's when the light went off. 1004 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:40,560 So we went down to come and get back out there and work with that. 1005 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,680 Then they got to pull the light went off again. 1006 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,320 It is a very bizarre sighting, if you like, in its own right. 1007 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,040 But this happened again just after the events 1008 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,840 in question with Charlie and Calvin in the same part of the river, but just a 1009 01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,040 little bit further out. 1010 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,600 And fortunately, there is a photograph of all 1011 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,720 those present, all the civilians that was taken by the Coast Guard. 1012 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,840 They've lined them up on the side, taken a photograph of them. 1013 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,160 And the good thing for us, although their 1014 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,640 names are mentioned in the documents, the names 1015 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,120 are all on the back of the photograph. 1016 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,680 (dramatic music) 1017 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,520 The U.S. Navy were brought in the next day. 1018 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:31,040 They sent a gentleman and Mr. Ryan Hill. 1019 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,960 Ryan, one of the witnesses showed him where the incident happened. 1020 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,560 And he said that the Navy were going to look into it and issue a full report. 1021 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,160 But some Naval workers aboard a ship on 1022 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,240 the Pascagoula River had already experienced something similar. 1023 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,720 I had top secret clearance when I was in the Navy. 1024 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,080 And this is one reason why I never talked about it in the Navy. 1025 01:03:53,440 --> 01:04:00,680 We could see six spherical, shiny, silver, metallic 1026 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:05,800 -looking, aluminum-looking objects in the water under the surface. 1027 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,800 We're traveling about, I would have to say, 1028 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,760 35 to 40 knots. 1029 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,400 They were traveling at a very rapid rate of speed. 1030 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,000 They came from a southeasterly point, came to 1031 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,320 the northwest and curved right up into the river. 1032 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:27,280 And then when they came back out, I assumed it was the same six, but six 1033 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,880 more came back out and they went straight into the gulf. 1034 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,240 And from our vantage point here, we saw 1035 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,360 them, detected them when they were right about here. 1036 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,640 And like I said, it was only a few minutes before they were out of sight 1037 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,960 as they were traveling extremely, extremely rapid. 1038 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,560 That night, the Coast Guard saw objects just like we did. 1039 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,880 A lot of the fishermen out in the gulf that had seen them described the same 1040 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,120 exact type of craft. 1041 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,040 So it's a powerful, powerful batch of evidence, if you like. 1042 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,800 If you were just looking at this case on its own, it'd be, wow, this is 1043 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:03,560 fascinating. 1044 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,840 But of course, it comes in the wake of what happened just a few weeks earlier. 1045 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,360 The mystery of what happened in Pascagoula in 1046 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,400 1973 remains unsolved to this day. 1047 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,680 Decades later, the questions linger, but with all 1048 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,800 the eyewitnesses and the compelling accounts that have 1049 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:29,360 come out over the years, the events in Pascagoula stand out as one of the most 1050 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,880 credible and fascinating glimpses into the unknown, offering 1051 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,880 a story that continues to captivate and challenge 1052 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,200 our understanding of the world around us. 1053 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,280 Whatever happened in 1973, the shared experiences of 1054 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,840 the residents of Pascagoula and those who witnessed 1055 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,440 things further afield will connect them forever. 1056 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,600 (dramatic music) 1057 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,400 And while Calvin Parker's story may have seemed 1058 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,400 increasingly plausible as more and more witnesses came 1059 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,320 forward over the years, the truth remained that 1060 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,480 his life could never truly return to what it once was. 1061 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,800 I had my plan for life. 1062 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:22,400 When I was 18 years old, I had everything planned out the way that I wanted. 1063 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,160 And I've always said I was gonna get 1064 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:30,320 married, buy a house, have children, have grandchildren, retired. 1065 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,160 And that was a simple life. 1066 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,080 That's all I wanted. 1067 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,560 Since this happened, I chased the media. 1068 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:40,920 The media's chased me. 1069 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,720 Uh, they're set up at night and wonder why. 1070 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,360 Or worry about this stuff. 1071 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,720 And your worrying brings on sickness. 1072 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:58,840 And I really believe, uh, you can worry yourself sick. 1073 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,160 And I think that's so much wrong with me. 1074 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,880 So I wanted my life to be stable. 1075 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,880 I wanted my marriage to be stable. 1076 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,800 And it is now. 1077 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,320 And, uh, I got a great family. 1078 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,480 I got a wonderful wife, wonderful kids. 1079 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,040 Uh, wonderful son-in-law. 1080 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,080 And everything's stable now. 1081 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:31,480 Then I got sick. 1082 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,480 So another curveball comes in. 1083 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,400 So it's just something you have to deal with. 1084 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,560 And I'm making plans now for them. 1085 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,240 I'm not planning for myself because I don't feel like I'm gonna be around. 1086 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,600 Nobody never knows. 1087 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:54,680 But, uh, I don't want to leave this whole world and leave everybody in a bind. 1088 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,400 I don't want to owe nobody nobody. 1089 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:58,440 I don't want to lie. 1090 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:06,800 And to do right by your family and friends and to live by your conscience. 1091 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,920 (dramatic music) 1092 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,000 No, I'm not afraid of it at all. 1093 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,120 Everybody's gonna die. 1094 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,560 So I'm not scared of dying. 1095 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:22,600 I wouldn't be sitting here fixing to die and lying about it all. 1096 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,760 So anyhow, I want to say goodbye and goodnight to everybody. 1097 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:31,920 Everybody, goodnight. 1098 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,200 And I hope y'all enlightened somehow. 1099 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:41,360 (dramatic music) 1100 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:18,680 (dramatic music) 94240

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