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In the criminal justice system,
the people are represented
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by two separate yet equally
important groups.
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The Police, who investigate crime,
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and the Crown Prosecutors,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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"Grey Astra, jumped a red light,
corner of West Street.
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Pulling over now."
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Sir, turn your engine off and step
out of the car, please.
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Let's go.
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Can you call some backup?
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Romeo 45 in pursuit.
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Jesus.
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Right down another one way.
Christopher Street. Over.
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Careful, you'll spin out.
I'vegotit,Tom.
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Right, stay on him.
Yeah,I'vegothim.
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Are you OK, sir?
Stay inside your vehicle, please.
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Ambulance, please,
as soon as possible.
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Tom. Tom.
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So two fatalities.
The driver, male, 20s.
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And in his boot, male, 60s.
From the amount of blood,
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I'd say already dead
when he was put there.
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Right. Good.
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Whoa. Some shunt this, Pete.
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New Sam? Just started, has he?
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Eh?
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Yeah. Joined us today from
Child Protection.
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Joe.
OK,thanks.
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Pete, Joe. Joe, Pete.
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DS Hawkins.
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Right. So, Astra showed up on VODs.
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It was nicked this afternoon,
Kentish Town.
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Good.
Anything on him?
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Ah, well, no. No wallets, pockets
are empty. No phones.
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Also, no teeth and no hands.
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Poor sod.
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No dental records. No fingerprints.
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Nice, easy one to start you off
with.
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There's nothing from Missing Persons
matching the bloke in the boot.
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Although Forensics did find
traces of blood and oil
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on the driver's shoes.
Alock-up,maybe,oragarage.
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Could be. Also, partial footprint
in the passenger well.
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Same blood, same oil, different
shoes.Hehadafriend.
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Yeah.
How'shedoing?
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Anne said he was a demon yesterday
with the health and safety stuff.
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The rest I'm not too sure about.
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Luckily he's got you to
show him the ropes.
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I don't have time to show
people ropes.Yourjob.
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Hey, Joe, how's it going.
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Good. Actually, got a match
on the driver's dabs.
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Goes by the name of Billy Knowles.
Shedload of previous.
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I know Billy Knowles. Hired muscle.
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KAs?
We'll get onto it, Wes.
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Already done. There you go.
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Billy Knowles.
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I think he'll show you a thing
or two, Ron. Cheers.
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Kris Akron?
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This is DS Brooks and D...
DS Joe Hawkins.
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Yeah? You don't sound too sure.
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Do you know Billy Knowles?
Abit.
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Quite a lot, I'd say.
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Didn't you do some thieving
together? Nicking cars.
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Then you graduated to ABH, wasn't
it? That's going up in the world.
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That's my old life, yeah?
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Billy, the Feds, all that.
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I choose not to go that way no more.
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But didn't you and Billy get charged
with assault five months ago?
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The charges were dropped.
A case of mistaken identity.
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Isthatright?
See, I've learnt my lesson.
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I study. I'm smart.
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I'm gonna break out, be a success,
just like you.
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Pillar of the community.
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It was easy for you, though,
weren't it, DS Hawkins?
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Bit higher up the pigmentocracy.
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Shadism has its benefits,
you know what I mean?
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Kris, where were you last night?
Iwasstudying.
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When did you last see Billy Knowles?
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I can't remember.
You have to ask him.
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Yeah, well, we can't. He's dead.
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Shadism?
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Basically, the closer to white
you are, the better.
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That's the theory.
Oh, really?
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Yeah. It's right up there with
evolution and relativity
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Brooks.
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Blunt force trauma to the
back of the head.
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Single blow, judging from the mess
they made of his jaw.
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I'd say they used the same thing
to knock the teeth out.
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And the hands?
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Hacksaw, probably. Both done
post-mortem. No finesse.
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So whoever did it wasn't
really interested in torture,
just anonymity, yeah?
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And they did a pretty good job,
right?
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Not that good.
A radio cephalic fistula.
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Right, so, he's on dialysis?
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Oh, in case you were wondering,
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there are 27 dialysis centres
in Greater London.
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And a radiocephalic fistula is a
surgical procedure.
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27 centres.
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How many of them perform surgery?
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See, we'll make a detective
of him yet.
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He was meant to dialyse at the
hospital last night.
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That's where I thought he was.
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Mrs Bernstein, do you know
why anyone would want
to hurt your husband?
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No, Harry didn't have any enemies.
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When did you last see him?
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I need to ring the synagogue.
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The burial, Taharah.
I need to speak to the rabbi.
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Mrs Bernstein, when did you last
see your husband?
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Yesterday. As always,
he went to work.
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He works in Hatton Garden
in diamonds.
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Did he have any problems, mention
anything, trouble of any kind?
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He never talked about work.
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Leave it at the front door, he says.
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Talk to David.
If anyone'll know, he'll know.
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David?
His partner, David Winkleman.
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Harry took him on as an apprentice.
Taught him everything.
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Harry trusted him.
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Like a son.
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Yeah, I sent everyone home.
They're all too upset.
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Hm.
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That's a lot of noughts.
Business good, is it?
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Business is good.
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We stopped cutting and polishing
rough diamonds a few years ago.
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Indians do it cheaper.
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You ever get anyone approaching you?
Stolen goods, that sort of thing?
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No. Harry stayed away from
all of that.
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He taught me early on, don't look
at the rocks, look at the face.
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We do pretty much the same thing.
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When was the last time
you saw Harry?
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Last night, around seven. He was
on his way to meet someone.Who?
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He didn't say.
At that time of night,
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he would have met him
at Frank's Noshery.
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He was in the corner.
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The one Harry always has when
he wants to talk business.
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Nice and private.
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And who was he meeting?
MickeyBelker. Bum.
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I tell you this. Things were
getting pretty heated.
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So, they rowed?Three times I went
to take their dessert order.
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And Harry wasn't interested.
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Whatever Mickey was selling,
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Harry wasn't buying.
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It was a disagreement.
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What kind of disagreement?
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I had a business proposition
I was willing to put his way
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and Harry wasn't interested.
It happens.
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And that's it?That's it.
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We kissed and made up. Then we left.
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Together?
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Harry had to go home by Tube.
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We said goodbye in the street,
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"It's been too long, yada-yada,
we must do it again soon".
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Like you do.
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Hm.
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And had you known Harry Bernstein
long?
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We were at DeBeers together,
in the sorting room.
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Harry had the best eyes
in the business.
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He could spot a macle at 50 feet.
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A macle?
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A flaw. Nothing got past
Harry Bernstein.
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Nothing.
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Oh, hey, Ron, look at this.
CamerafromFrank'sNoshery.
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That's Harry and Belker leaving.
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It's just like Belker said,
though, yeah?
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But he also said they kissed
and made up.
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Yeah. One sec, sorry. Hello.
Brooks's phone. Just hold.
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And look, they definitely didn't
go their separate ways.
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Sorry, go ahead. That is great.
Thank you very much, thank you.
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Joe, get your coat,
we found Harry Bernstein's teeth.
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Tell you what, though, that is a
bit of a shock.What's that?
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Well, your kids drop their
sweets under the car,
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Mum goes down to pick 'em up,
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comes back up with a couple of
molars and an incisor. Lovely.
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Well, that's one way to learn
about tooth decay.Ta.
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Hello, Joy.Hi, Ronnie.
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Right, we had tyre marks
matching the Astra
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and CCTV shows it driving in
at 9:47.
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Right.
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So, they park up,
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take Harry out of the car.
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Donedeal.
Yeah. So, anything else, Joy?
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The usual. Fag ends. Sweet wrappers.
Used condom.
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Filthy haystack, no needle.
Yeah.
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Right, here comes the Astra.
Yeah.
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Well, that's no good, you can't tell
who's inside.
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Fast forward it on for me, please.
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See if it's any better
when they come out.
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There.No.
Great. All right, well,
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we'll check some of the cameras on
the street. Maybe we'll get lucky.
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Hang on. Whoa.
Just go back for me please.
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Back. Back. Bit further.
Bit further. There.
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It's like a few minutes after
the Astra leaves.
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And what is he getting rid of?
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Yeah, well, don't just go opening
it. You don't know what's in it.
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It's all right. I got it. I got it.
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What's in there?
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He comes back down and sees what?
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Something that makes him
run like hell.
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Yeah, all right.
Well, why don't we ask around?
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Because someone somewhere will know
who 'Eyeris' is.
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He's supposed to be at school
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but he hasn't come out of
his room all day.
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I've tried everything. Shouting,
bribing, you name it, nothing.
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Washeoutlastnight?Why?
Has he been spraying walls again?
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Danny?
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Hello, Danny. Mind if we
have a little chat?
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We know that you were there, Danny.
We've asked around.
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We know that you are Eyeris.
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Look, we're not interested
in graffiti.
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Danny, we just wanna know
what you saw.
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We know that you're scared as well.
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I mean, you saw something
horrible last night.
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Anything you can tell us, Danny.
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Anything you overheard. A name?
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Seriously, any little thing
that can help us.
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It's there, Wes, I know it.
We just push a little bit harder.
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No. No. He's completely traumatised.
He'souronlylead.
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Well, maybe he is too
scared to talk.
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It's not like he knows and he
isn't saying. It's a blank.
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He saw a man murdered and have
his hands cut off.
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I've seen this,
especially with kids.
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They bury the memory deep, right?
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And if we try and push too hard...
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Well, I'm not gonna do that,
though, am I?
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Look, he's not talking.
Right? At least, not yet.
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And until he does, until he's ready,
we're wasting our time.
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OK. Start again.
Back to square one, fellas.
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Look at the evidence from the
scene again, will you?
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And that Mickey Belker, I mean,
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he's lied to us once, so
see what you can dig up.
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OK. What are you gonna do?
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I'm giving evidence, and I just
wanna run through it first.
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What, the Horgan case?
Yeah.
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You do that every time?
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Well, this one's special.
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But look, let me introduce you
to a couple of people.
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This is Jacob Thorne and Kate Barker
from the CPS. This is DS Hawkins.
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Joe.Hi.Hey.
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First day?Pretty much.
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Ronnie throw you in at
the deep end?
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Just trying to keep my head
above water, you know.
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Anyway, um, better crack on.
Don't want to drown.
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Hm.
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Ready?
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Yeah.
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Dale Horgan and Jackson Baylor
were involved in a turf war.
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Concerningthesaleofdrugs?
Yes. Horgan thought that Baylor
245
00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,360
was trying to muscle in
on his territory.
246
00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,520
Sorry. Conjecture. You have no
idea what Horgan thought.
247
00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,800
What did you find when you
arrived at Baylor's flat?
248
00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,680
On entering the flat we found
Baylor's body in the hallway.
249
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,760
He'd been shot in the stomach,
point blank.
250
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,640
Was his the only body that
you found?
251
00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,880
No. We then went into the lounge
and found the body of Serena Baylor.
252
00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,680
And who was she?
Baylor'seight-year-olddaughter.
253
00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,280
It was his turn to have her
that weekend.
254
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,320
She was...still clutching
her toy Tigger.
255
00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,880
Irrelevant.
Doyoureallyhavetodothat?
256
00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,240
Look. Do you wanna trip up now or
wait until we get into court?
257
00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,440
Had Serena Baylor been shot, too?
258
00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,400
Yes. She left a trail of blood
from the hallway.
259
00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,320
So she didn't die at once?
260
00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,320
No. She had enough time to drag
herself back in to the lounge,
261
00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,560
where she bled out.
262
00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,280
Alone, frightened.
She must've been terrified.
263
00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,880
No, no, Ron. You can't say that.
It's too emotional.
264
00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,000
Too real is what it is, Kate!
265
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,160
Dale Horgan, I mean,
he's shot the kid
266
00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,200
and he's probably stood there
and watched her die.
267
00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,360
You can't let your feelings
get in the way.
268
00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,240
She was eight. What was she gonna
do, set Tigger onto him?
269
00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,960
Look, I do know how hard you've
worked to get Horgan here, Ronnie.
270
00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,520
Watching those previous two trials
collapse like that.
271
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,480
It's the same for us, Ronnie.
We want Horgan as much as you do.
272
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,520
But when you get into court,
if you let emotion get in the way...
273
00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,200
Ron, I've found something.
274
00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,560
Mickey Belker has form, right? Him
and his mate. Handling stolen goods,
275
00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,600
selling moody perfume from a stall,
that kind of thing.
276
00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,760
Yeah, but that's a long way from
lopping off hands, though, Joe.
277
00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,240
Yeah, well, his mate left town,
right, but Belker stayed on
278
00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,680
and moved up to fencing
stolen jewellery.
279
00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,640
All right.
Does his mate have a name?
280
00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,680
Harry Bernstein.
281
00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,640
Yes, I knew Harry from before.
So what? It's hardly a crime.
282
00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,960
No, but melting down stolen
gold and silver is.
283
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,600
Fencing stolen diamonds is.
284
00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,840
It's the past. Another country.
285
00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,720
We know that -
286
00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,880
I had a chance to make
some real money.
287
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,280
Fence some stones.
But I needed Harry's help.
288
00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,680
His reputation. His contacts.
289
00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,920
What was the row about?
290
00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,440
Harry said he didn't do stuff like
that, I respected his decision.
291
00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,720
What about the blokes you
were fencing for?
292
00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,720
Did they have a go at
convincing him, too?
293
00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,760
You think I'd tell them I couldn't
get Harry? They'd just dump me.
294
00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,360
We have a saying, in the Garden.
295
00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:22,280
Muzel brocho. My word is my bond.
296
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,320
My word counts for shit.
297
00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,440
I needed Harry.
Why would I hurt him?
298
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,440
You wanna know who hurt
Harry Bernstein? You...
299
00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,800
You try David bloody Winkleman.
300
00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,840
And why would we do that?
301
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,360
You start with the fact
he was schtupping Harry's missus,
302
00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,640
and then you take it from there.
303
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,840
Joe?
304
00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,120
That thing you did when I went
to speak to Belker.
305
00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,000
I leant forward and you
grabbed my arm.
306
00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,240
Yeah. We learnt that working with
kids. You don't fill the silence.
307
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,640
You let them fill it.
Right,that'sinteresting.
308
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,600
Don't do it again.
309
00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:10,920
We'd stopped noticing each other.
310
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:16,000
He'd go to work, he'd come home,
he'd go to sleep. I was invisible.
311
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,600
I just needed someone to remind
me that I was still...
312
00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,560
How childish is that?
313
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,440
And then there was David Winkleman.
314
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,480
He thought there was more to it
than there was.
315
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,400
Said we could make a life together,
316
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,840
as if that's what I was looking for
317
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,320
when all I actually wanted...
318
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,360
Was to be wanted?
319
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,400
It's not something I'm proud of.
320
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,040
Harry should be buried by now.
But they won't release him.
321
00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,400
He just lies there...in that fridge.
322
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,480
Did your husband find out
about David?
323
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,520
Are you sure about that?
324
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,880
Trust me, if Harry knew, he
wouldn't have kept it to himself.
325
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,880
Mickey Belker knew. Why not Harry?
326
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,160
Well, he could spot a macle
at 50 feet.
327
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,960
Companies House is full of
fascinating things, Mr Winkleman.
328
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,320
For instance, did you know that
Harry Bernstein started up
329
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,680
a new company only last month,
with himself as sole owner?
330
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,480
It turns out a lot of your clients
331
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,000
are taking their business to
Harry's new company.
332
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,160
I mean, he couldn't get rid of you,
333
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,480
what with you being a partner
of the existing business.
334
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,800
So he started a new one and
bypassed you.That's ridiculous.
335
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,720
He was trying to ruin you. You
betrayed him. This was his revenge.
336
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,560
My client has said all he's
going to say.
337
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,360
He came in voluntarily.
338
00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,400
So, one of your clients probably
told you where they were going?
339
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,160
Is that how you found out?
No.
340
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,920
Either arrest him,
or this meeting is over.
341
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,440
You were in love with his wife.
He was gonna destroy you.
342
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,840
So, you had to stop him.
343
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,960
Ron.
344
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,040
Yes,guv?
You're gonna have to let him go.
345
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,160
What? No, we've still got
a couple of hours -
346
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,040
Winkleman didn't kill Bernstein.
347
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,600
No, no, Wes, look.
He had opportunity, he had motive -
348
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,760
She came in about ten minutes ago.
She asked for you by name.
349
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,640
DS Brooks, this is Rebecca Waldman.
350
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,320
Hello there. Can I help you?
351
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,800
I'm on the jury in the
Horgan trial.
352
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,920
Oh, no, no. I'm sorry,
we can't speak.Ron,no.
353
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,960
We're way past that now.
354
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,760
I'm Harry Bernstein's sister.
355
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,480
This was left at my house.
356
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,400
You shared custody of your daughter
with Jackson Baylor.
357
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,800
After the divorce, he had her
one weekend a month.
358
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,000
I shouldn't have done it.
I should've just...
359
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,680
On the day in question, what did
you see when you dropped her off?
360
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,360
Theywerearguing.Jackson Baylor
and Dale Horgan?Yes.
361
00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,320
Did you hear what was said?
362
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,920
Horgan had his face right up against
Jack's. He whispered something.
363
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,800
Whatever it was,
it must've scared him.
364
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,760
Conjecture, my Lady. The witness
has no idea what was said.
365
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,800
Just confine yourself to what
you saw and heard.
366
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,240
What happened then?
367
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,200
Horgan got into his car.
368
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,240
And then what?
369
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,080
He looked at Jack and went...
370
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,680
I shouldn't have left her there.
371
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,920
I knew what he was like
372
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,240
but I still left her there.
373
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,840
My baby girl.
374
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,720
Thank you. Nothing further.
375
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,760
The witness is excused.
376
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,520
It was just a gesture.
377
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,040
Eleanor Richmond will say it
doesn't prove a thing.
378
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,440
Itshowedintent.It showed Horgan
had seen too many bad movies.
379
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,640
The jury lapped it up. Eleanor can
talk about reasonable doubt
380
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,800
all she likes.
It won't get her anywhere.
381
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,480
Horgan nobbled the jury?
382
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,840
The juror's brother
was murdered three days ago.
383
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,640
They sent her his hands
as a keepsake.
384
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,400
The jury will have to be discharged.
385
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,600
Which means we'll have to start all
over again.No,Idon'tthinkso.
386
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,240
Shecould'vetaintedthewholejury.
Notnecessarily.
387
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,160
We know when she was approached.
She swore she spoke to no one.
388
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,000
And you believe her?
She'sterrified.
389
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,960
It took her three days to
tell the police.
390
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,000
What if you're wrong? What if
Horgan got to more than one of them?
391
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,040
Something like that takes
organisation.
392
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,760
Horgan's got the clout.
393
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,320
Horgan's a big fish in a rank pond,
he's not Al Capone.
394
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,480
So you just get this one juror
discharged?
395
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,400
And then carry on. Eleven jurors.
396
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,760
Still enough for a majority.
It could work.
397
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,680
None of this is our fault.
398
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,280
The first time, Horgan had a
suspected heart attack
399
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,080
that lasted precisely as long as it
took for the trial to collapse.
400
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,760
The second, because a paper ran
an article about Horgan
401
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,160
just when the jury were
deliberating,
402
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,160
allowing his brief to yell
prejudice. Now this.
403
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,240
Three trials.
404
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,760
Getting Horgan's been a
long time coming.
405
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,920
I'm nearly there, Henry.
406
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,160
Forensics have confirmed the hands
belong to Harry Bernstein.
407
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,400
They match the dabs they
found at his gaff.
408
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,240
What about the note?
409
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,200
Written on the lid with
a bog standard marker pen.OK.
410
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,280
If this is Horgan's work -
Itis,Wes.
411
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760
And, look, if it is and we
proceed on that basis,
412
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,880
then Horgan arranged this
from inside.
413
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,200
Let's find out who he's been
talking to since the trial began.
414
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,360
Discharge all of them, my Lady.
415
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,200
What?
416
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,240
I'm making an application for the
entire jury to be discharged.
417
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,360
MyLady.
If one juror has been compromised,
418
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,160
who's to say the others
haven't been?
419
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,680
Are you suggesting that your client
has intimidated more than one juror?
420
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,200
Not at all. In the absence of
my client being charged
421
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,720
with attempting to pervert
the course of justice,
422
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,920
I must assume the Prosecution
has no evidence
423
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,680
he had anything to do with it.
424
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,520
Well, who else would it be?
425
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,440
There are many people
who would benefit
426
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,920
from my client being charged
with another murder.
427
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,720
He's been framed? Seriously?
428
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,480
Can you prove he hasn't been?
429
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,280
The Defence are trying to take
advantage of the situation.
430
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,440
I'm merely concerned that the jury
shouldn't be compromised.
431
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,440
This way they get to start over
again. A new jury, a new trial.
432
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Granting this application
433
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,040
will be to reward the tampering
in the first place.
434
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,040
Skeleton arguments by this evening.
435
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,680
I will hear oral representations
tomorrow.
436
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,280
No jury at all?
437
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,560
If Eleanor Richmond gets her way,
we'll be back where we started.
438
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,920
I'm not sure some of our witnesses
can go through it all again.
439
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,800
Judge only.
440
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,240
Well, there's a precedent.
Crown versus Twomey.
441
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,160
Yes, I am aware of that.The trial
continues. We lose nothing.
442
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,480
Andyou'llargueitonwhatbasis?
Horgan tampered with the last jury,
443
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,560
I won't give him the chance
to do that again.
444
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,800
And 800 years of constitutional
rights go out of the window
445
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,560
just like that.
Are you OK with this?
446
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,680
That little girl's mum has now
given evidence at three trials.
447
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,960
She blames herself
as much as she does Horgan.
448
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,960
She's coming apart at the seams,
Henry.
449
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,240
She has my sympathy,
but it's not an argument.
450
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,280
Look, Horgan tried to
abuse the system.
451
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,200
He can't very well hide
behind it now.
452
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,840
You don't even know if Horgan
knew about the tampering,
453
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,920
farlessthatheorderedit.
I don't have to.
454
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,880
I just have to show a real and
present danger of interference
455
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,000
and the likelihood that it
will continue.
456
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,360
Trial by jury has been around
since the Magna Carta.
457
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:51,000
And you want to go in there
tomorrow and tear it up.
458
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,920
Are you telling me not to do it?
459
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,800
I'm telling you that before you
start down that road,
460
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,080
make damn sure you know
where you're going.
461
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,920
If you deny my client a jury,
462
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,520
you deny him one of the fundamental
principles of the legal system.
463
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,080
And he has enjoyed
the benefits of that system
464
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,160
not once but three times, my Lady.
465
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,160
And now this jury is tainted,
466
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,680
with every expectation
that it will be again.
467
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,680
The principle is no longer
fundamental. It's flawed.
468
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,920
Trial by jury can only work if it
remains uncompromised.
469
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,320
That is not the case here.
470
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,200
Notwithstanding Ms Richmond's
comments,
471
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,560
the determination of guilt
or innocence
472
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,360
does not require the presence
of a jury alone.
473
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,600
Therefore, under Section 44 of the
Criminal Justice Act, 2003,
474
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,320
I will grant the application to
discharge the jury altogether.
475
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,400
Then I ask that you disqualify
yourself, my Lady,
476
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,720
and that a new judge be appointed.
477
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,640
There's no need for that.
478
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Mr Thorne has a point.
On what grounds?
479
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,080
Your Honour has seen information
about my client
480
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,080
which would not normally come to
the attention of the jury.
481
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,520
I'm sure, my Lady, you can make
that distinction.
482
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,960
Nonetheless, there's still danger
of the perception of bias.
483
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,920
Don't you agree?
484
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,800
OK, list of Horgan's visitors
in the last fortnight.
485
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,200
We've got his Mum,
his girlfriend four times and...
486
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,960
Oh, nice one. There's a surprise.
487
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,200
You haul my arse all the way down
here because of a visit?
488
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,640
Been friends with Horgan long?
We'renotfriends.
489
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,520
And yet you visited him in prison.
490
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,840
Yeah, it's part of an outreach
programme. Spiritual guidance.
491
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,120
That assault charge you beat
five months ago, Kris.
492
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,160
Where the victim suddenly changed
his mind, couldn't ID you.
493
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,000
Yeah? And?We showed him
a photograph of Dale Horgan.
494
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680
He went very quiet, didn't he?
Hewasterrified.
495
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,160
You think Dale Horgan had anything
to do with his memory failing?
496
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Kris? What did you see Horgan about?
497
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,920
I don't remember.
498
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,840
Couple of weeks, you don't remember?
499
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,880
It can't have been very interesting.
500
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,560
You got all the answers, don't you?
To your questions, I do, yeah.
501
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,720
Kris, you know what I think?
502
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,440
I think Dale Horgan told you
to study the jury.
503
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,440
Pick a weak spot, push someone.
504
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,160
And I reckon you found
Rebecca Waldman.
505
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,240
And I think you and Billy Knowles
killed Harry Bernstein.
506
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Dale Horgan called in his marker.
507
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,800
So that's murder, conspiracy
to pervert the course of justice.
508
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,120
We're talking a lot of years here,
Kris.
509
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,160
You hear what I said?
510
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,640
Yeah. Yeah and I'm hearing a
lot of noise, too.
511
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880
Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.
Like a terrier.
512
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,160
Or is it a mongrel?
Ask me that again!
513
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Whoa, whoa. Whoa!
514
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,200
Joe. Joe. Joe.
515
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,160
Joe.
516
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,520
We've shown Kris Akron's photo
to Bernstein's wife,
517
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,600
his business partner,
518
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,760
the entire population
of Hatton Garden, and nothing.
519
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,200
We can link Horgan to Akron,
we've got motive, Wes,
520
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,720
but we just can't put Akron
at the scene, that's it.
521
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200
How about that witness,
the eyewitness?
522
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,440
The boy, Danny. How's his memory?
523
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,520
We spoke to him again this
afternoon.And?
524
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,200
'There are precedents.
525
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,880
In fact, the Diplock Courts in
the 70s dispensed with juries.
526
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,560
Some major fraud trials
happened without juries
527
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,680
and of course Magistrates sit
every day without -'
528
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,600
You make a good case.
529
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,440
You've drawn Mr Justice Lockwood.
530
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,200
For the Horgan trial?
Lockwood's gonna decide?
531
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,000
I'd say Eleanor Richmond
is offering up a prayer of thanks
532
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,560
rightaboutnow.
Live sacrifices are more her thing.
533
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,480
You rolled the dice.
534
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Be careful what you wish for,
is that it?
535
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,600
Well, at least Horgan won't be able
to get to any more juries.
536
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,480
Neither will you.
537
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,560
No trading on the jury's emotions.
538
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,840
It won't matter how many tears are
shed in the witness box
539
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,000
or how scary Horgan looks.
No tricks.
540
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Just you and Eleanor in front of
someone who understands the law.
541
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,040
And remember, it won't be you on
there having to explain if you lose.
542
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,480
No jury, no justice!
543
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,840
Friends of Horgan?
Only if they're armed.
544
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,360
Mr Thorne. Sorry, Mr Thorne.
545
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,400
I just want to say,
you don't have to worry.
546
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:40,320
I will answer the questions, I will
relive that day, over and over.
547
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,040
I don't care. I just want...
548
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,320
We all want the same thing.
549
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,200
I pray, Miss Barker. Every night
I pray that the good Lord
550
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,240
will help me find it in my heart
to forgive. As I was taught.
551
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,120
But I just want him to burn.
552
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,560
All rise.
553
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320
It has been a rocky path,
554
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,680
and it remains a voyage of
discovery for us all.
555
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,640
I trust we won't let the
novelty go to our heads.
556
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Now. Since I am the only gallery
either of you will be playing to,
557
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,520
I suggest you dispense with the
usual verbal bells and whistles.
558
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,840
No peacocking. Is that understood?
559
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,520
I missed that.
560
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,320
Yes, my Lord.Yes, my Lord.
561
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Excellent. Then let's begin.
562
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,720
The defendant is charged
with the murders
563
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,560
of Jackson Baylor and Serena Baylor.
How do you plead?
564
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,520
Not guilty.
565
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,680
You've arrested my client before,
haven't you?Yes.Twice.
566
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,200
And each time you took
no further action?
567
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,160
We had insufficient evidence.
568
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,120
That must've been frustrating.
569
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,160
I didn't let it bother me.
570
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,440
You mention the CCTV footage.
571
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,720
Yes. We identified Dale Horgan
parking his car near Baylor's flat
572
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,120
on the night of the murder.
573
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,400
And Mr Horgan admitted being there?
574
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,520
Well, he could hardly deny it,
could he?
575
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,640
Being there explains the
carpet fibres on Horgan's shoes
576
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,080
matching Baylor's hall carpet,
doesn't it?
577
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,960
Yes, but he also had motive.
578
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,560
Just no murder weapon,
no gunshot residue,
579
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920
and no conclusive physical evidence.
580
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,280
This sounds very much like a speech,
my Lord.
581
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,200
And that sounds very much like
peacocking, Mr Thorne.
582
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,320
Ask a question, Ms Richmond.
583
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,920
And watch yourself.
It only encourages him.
584
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,240
Do you recognise this?
585
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160
Yes. That is my Decision Log.
586
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040
Relevance, my Lord.
587
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Feathers away, Mr Thorne.
I want to hear.
588
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,640
Can you read out the
highlighted section, please?
589
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,520
'Decision number 47. Trace and
interview Johnny Shakwell,
590
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400
who may be associated with
victim Baylor.'
591
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,840
Main Line of Enquiry is also ticked.
592
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,800
Who's Johnny Shakwell?
593
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Johnny Shakwell is another dealer.
594
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,800
Baylor robbed one of his mules
the week before the murder.
595
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,320
Baylor took Shakwell's drugs?
Thatiscorrect.
596
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Giving Shakwell a motive.
Did you follow it up?
597
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,320
Shakwell didn't shoot Baylor.
598
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,560
He's got no previous, not even
possession of a firearm.
599
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,280
The truth is, Dale Horgan had
got under your skin.No.
600
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,600
So you pursued him, ignoring
viable lines of enquiry.
601
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,200
Chasing Jonny Shakwell would've been
a waste of my very valuable time.
602
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,960
Because it took you away from
where you wanted to be.
603
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,120
Which is here, today, with
Dale Horgan on trial for murder.
604
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,960
What I want...
605
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,760
..is for the killer of those two
people to face justice.
606
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,280
And if it makes up for all the other
times, that's just a bonus, right?
607
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,560
My Lord.
Nothing further.
608
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Did you consider Shakwell
as a suspect?Yes.
609
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,000
Why did you reject him?
610
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,240
Because Jonny Shakwell
doesn't use guns.
611
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:28,360
It's totally out of character
for him.
612
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,080
He doesn't threaten,
and he doesn't intimidate.
613
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,920
And Dale Horgan?
614
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,880
He does it like other people
breathe.
615
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,080
The fact that he has thus far
evaded a prison sentence
616
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,560
in no way blinds me to the sort
of man the defendant is.
617
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,880
However, regardless of the obvious
flaws in Mr Horgan,
618
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:05,240
I must concern myself with the
facts in this case alone.
619
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:11,200
And despite the weight of
circumstantial evidence
620
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,840
put forward by the Crown, they
have not met the burden of proof.
621
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,240
Reasonable doubt exists.
622
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,480
Therefore, on counts one
and two of murder,
623
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,080
I find the defendant,
Dale Horgan, not guilty.
624
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,360
"I was always innocent.
625
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,440
And despite the Crown's attempts
at denying me a fair trial,
626
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,840
I'm pleased that justice
has been done.
627
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,400
I'd hope that my good name
has been restored...'
628
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,360
Come on. This isn't doing any good.
629
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,880
This where you do a bit of
gloating, Dale, is it?
630
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,160
I don't need to, little piggy.
I won.
631
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,800
He's laughing at us, Joe.
632
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,960
Yeah? Then we'd better find a way
to make him stop.
633
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,240
I've tried. I just can't remember.
634
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:14,960
Try again, love. You never know.
Nothing bad's gonna happen.
635
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,880
See, you got your mum looking out
for you. My mum was like that.
636
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,680
It didn't matter what I did,
right or wrong,
637
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
I always knew she'd be there.
638
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,880
That's good to know, right?
639
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,520
I've seen your tag, it's wicked,
I like it. The Eyeris.
640
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Yeah, I thought I could be Hawkeye,
cos, like, my surname's Hawkins.
641
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Too many letters. You'd get caught.
642
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Probably just stick to being
a copper, hm?
643
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,480
Probably.
644
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,880
Plus, you know, I don't have
your head for heights.
645
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,800
Getting your tag that high up
on the side of a car park.
646
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,840
It was easy, really.
647
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,280
I could spray upside down.
I'd been practising.
648
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200
And then?
649
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:17,200
When you left the car park, did
you take the main stairs or...?
650
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,600
Down the ramp.
651
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,840
OK. And why was that?
Why didn't you take the stairs?
652
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,640
It was quicker, and it didn't matter
because they'd gone by then.
653
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,520
Who'd gone?
654
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,520
Then, when you were hiding,
what did you see?
655
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,200
Anything. Anything at all.
656
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,480
Look, it is there, I know it.
657
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,360
No. Send him home.
658
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,560
Gov. There's one more thing
I can try.
659
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,320
I think you've done enough.
Please.
660
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,320
Look. Push him too hard and we're
going to lose him entirely.
661
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,200
Isn't that what you said?
662
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,240
Wes.
663
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,040
All right.
664
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,640
It's a great view, innit?
665
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,680
Windy, though.
666
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:28,480
It was windier that night. It was
blowing. Gusts. I'd forgotten.
667
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Where were you, Danny?
668
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,400
Up there.
669
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,280
Up here?
670
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640
And then what happened?
671
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Uh, I saw the car. And the men.
672
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,080
How many men?
673
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,120
Three.
674
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,160
You saw three men?
675
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Two standing and the one
they were shouting at.
676
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,480
Yeah, that's good.
Did you see their faces?
677
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,800
I ducked down. I was scared.
678
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,840
It's OK.
679
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,520
I wanna help
but I didn't see anything.
680
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,560
Danny, trust me, you are helping,
all right? You're helping.
681
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,720
I could hear them. Yelling.
682
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,640
And the other man, he was crying.
683
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,080
Begging.
684
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,280
"Please, please," on and on.
685
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,760
Then one of them said, "Stop,
you're just making it harder."
686
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,280
Which one said that?
687
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,320
The one with the chain.
688
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,640
He was standing in front of the
other man. They were hurting him.
689
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,720
The man reached up
and pulled the chain off.
690
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,240
Yeah, he remembers it all, Ron.
Faces, everything.
691
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,960
Right down to one of them
wearing a gold chain.
692
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:41,160
That, Kris, is a link from
your gold chain.
693
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,360
That Harry Bernstein pulled
from your neck.
694
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,640
Easily missed.
695
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,760
My guess is that you drove over it
when you left the car park.
696
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,800
Bent it out of shape.
697
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,440
See the thing is, Kris,
when Harry pulled that chain off,
698
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,800
it took a bit of your skin with it.
699
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,480
Enough for us to get a DNA trace.
700
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,880
Which I think we both know
puts you at the scene.
701
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,720
So now we got an eyewitness,
and physical evidence.
702
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,080
That's murder.
703
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,120
That's a lot of years.
704
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,280
You still hearing that yapping
noise? Or is it something else now?
705
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,320
Not a lot of wiggle room left now,
is there, Kris?
706
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,200
I know you're scared.
707
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,360
And certainly Billy Knowles isn't
here to stand trial, is he?
708
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,600
So it's all on you. Come on, Kris,
we all know it wasn't your idea.
709
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:47,720
No reason for you to take the hit
all by yourself, is there?
710
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,840
You think you're smart, Kris.
Now's the time.
711
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,840
Tell us who gave the order.
712
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,440
It's the only card you've got
left to play.
713
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,640
He said I just had to do
this one thing.
714
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,840
That I'd never have to do
anything again.
715
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,160
Who, Kris? Give us a name.
716
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,760
They picked up Horgan
half an hour ago.
717
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,840
Conspiracy to murder and pervert.
718
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,280
Maybe this time we can help
that little girl's mother
719
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,720
find some peace.
Maybe.
720
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,680
We will get him this time.
721
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,720
I know.
722
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:11,560
I'll catch you guys up. Ron. Hey.
723
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,440
A bunch of us are going to the pub.
You fancy coming?
724
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Er, no. I'm fine. Thank you. Thanks.
725
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,720
All right. Well, see you tomorrow.
Yeah.
726
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:21,480
Hey, Joe.
727
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,000
That thing you did, with Danny.
728
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,720
The way you got him to talk,
the whole technique and so forth.
729
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,200
Maybe you could tell me about it
sometime, eh?
730
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,240
Yeah, I'd like that.
Yeah.
731
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,160
See you tomorrow.
Yeah.Seeyouthen.
732
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