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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,760 'In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,680 'the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,440 'The police who investigate crime 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,360 'and the Crown Prosecutors who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,520 'These are their stories.' 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Has Daddy's plane landed yet? 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Uh... Not yet. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Is he staying for long? For a bit. 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,520 I wish he could stay for ever. 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,120 Me, too, sweetie. Me, too. 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,960 Max, oh, I'm so sorry. 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,240 Be careful with that. Pick it up. I'm sorry. 13 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:24,600 'I can't confirm casualties. 14 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,280 'I will need all back-up in the local area. Over.' 15 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,840 'Mind your backs! Coming through!' 16 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Hello? 17 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Boys! Boys! 18 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Over here! 19 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Hello, mate. 20 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Keep looking at me. Just keep looking at me. 21 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 I need a paramedic and I need a paramedic now! 22 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Can you... Can you tell me your name? 23 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Max. 24 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:11,600 Max, I'm Sam, right? 25 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Keep your eyes open. Keep your eyes open. 26 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,040 The doctor's on his way, OK? 27 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,720 I want my mummy. 28 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,280 I know. 29 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,760 I promise you, as soon as I can, I'll go and find your mum. 30 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,720 Just keep looking at me, alright, mate? Max. 31 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,440 I need a paramedic! I need a paramedic now! 32 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,360 NOW! 33 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,080 Max... Come on, mate. 34 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Come on, mate. 35 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,080 Come on! 36 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,640 OK. I got it. 37 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,440 No. 38 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,160 It is carnage out there. 39 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,560 We've got hundreds injured. 12 dead. 40 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:09,280 No systolic. 41 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,160 13 dead. 42 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,160 Hello, hello, hello! 43 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,360 Look at you, "Detective Inspector" Leyton! 44 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,160 Heard you were covering for the Guv. How you doing, Wes? 45 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,040 I'm doing alright. How are you, Ron? 46 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,720 Shouldn't you be chasing patients round Dartmoor? 47 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Not much they couldn't do without me. 48 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,840 What have we got, sir? This is a County Trains commuter. 49 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:34,040 5.15 from Portsmouth Harbour. Gets into Waterloo about seven, absolutely packed to the rafters. 50 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,720 Take it that driver's a gonner? 51 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Strangely enough, wasn't even inside. 52 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Yeah? Response ran the plates. 53 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,320 PNC'd them. It's definitely a ringer. 54 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,160 And it has over 100 speeding tickets dating back six months. 55 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,040 How did he get the car on the tracks? 56 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Whoever was driving it crashed through an access gate half a mile back. 57 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,120 Somebody's got CCTV on it? 58 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,680 Rail company will send it over soon as they collate it themselves. 59 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,320 You know the drill. I need all the passengers ID'd and interviewed. 60 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,960 Already up and running. 61 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,280 Your partner gone wibble, has he? He looks a bit... 62 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:13,080 There was a young boy on the train. He tried to save him. Couldn't... 63 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,040 Make sure he attends debrief and gets some counselling. Absolutely. 64 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,120 Pint down the Red Lion after shift. 65 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,840 Double whisky chaser, no ice, and a packet of dry roasted! 66 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:28,840 How's that for a memory? Lots to catch up on. Yeah. More than you know, Wes. 67 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,840 It was just...on the tracks. 68 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,840 No signals, no warning? Nothing. 69 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,160 I slammed on the brakes the second I saw it, but it was too late. 70 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,840 I must have pushed it half a mile at least. 71 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,360 I thought I was never gonna see my kids again. 72 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,600 Well, you will, Mr King. Don't worry. 73 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,000 We'll get you warm. Get a cup of tea. We need a statement from you when you're up to it, OK? 74 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Dave, do me a favour. Take care of Mr King for me. 75 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Cheers. Thank you. 76 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Right. False plates. 77 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,920 Restricted area. This is no accident, is it? 78 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,080 He'd have to know about the gate, and the timetable. 79 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,400 What are you saying? Disgruntled employee, or what? 80 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,440 You mean there's other jobs that suck? 81 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,880 Pete, what have you got? 82 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Not much, I'm afraid. 83 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,880 But when we get this back to base, we can find the VIN, and see if he's left anything in it. 84 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,160 13 dead bodies in that tent and you've... 85 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,960 You've got nothing. 86 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,520 Just drove right through, look. 87 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,600 Do we know who was minding the shop? 88 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,880 Haleton Security. They've got the contract with County Trains. 89 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,280 Uniform are on to it, and they've got a list of all their employees. 90 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:43,600 When he crashes through the gate, why doesn't it trigger the alarm? 91 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,120 It did. By the time they'd radioed the train, it was too late. Why? 92 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Why the slow response? It happened bang on shift change at Haleton. 6:30. 93 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,840 What, he crashed the train at 6:30 and collision with the train at 6:36? 94 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:58,760 Yeah. He's cutting it fine. How did he know when to time it? 95 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Maybe you're right. This could be an employee of the rail company or the security firm. 96 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,880 Or some train spotter. Maybe he just did a bit of research beforehand. 97 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Thing is, you can't tell who's in that truck from this, can you? 98 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,360 That's cos the cameras are set up to catch trespassers climbing over the fence. 99 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Not cars smashing through it! What time was the site secured? 100 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,720 6:55. He had plenty of time to get on his toes, then. 101 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,560 We've got CCTV footage checking it now. See if he's escaped further down the line. 102 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,800 We've processed around 100. Another 120 to go. 103 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,160 What about the ones that went to hospital? 104 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,280 I've got officers talking to them, too. 105 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,000 So no-one saw anything suspicious? 106 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,120 No-one on the train saw anything. 107 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,360 One minute they're cruising along like every other morning, the next... 108 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,760 (MOBILE RINGS) If anything comes up, call us straightaway. 109 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,560 Excuse me. Hello? Brooks. 110 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,560 We're up to 15 dead now. 111 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,280 16, if you count unborn babies. 112 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,240 Right. That's great. Thanks, Pete. 113 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,600 SOCO have found the VIN. 114 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,880 The car belonged to Michael Gennis. 115 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,960 Gennis. Why does that ring a bell? 116 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,400 Gennis put his wife in a coma, permanent brain damage. 117 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,080 He claimed self-defence. Hung jury. Three of them thought it reasonable 118 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,760 he'd defend himself against a five-foot-two woman! 119 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Aren't CPS retrying the case? 120 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,320 Yes, thanks to Alicia Phillips. She pushed for the retrial. 121 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,920 She did an interview about the CPS having zero tolerance in cases of domestic violence. 122 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,720 She cited the retrial as an example. 123 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Guess which train she takes every morning? 124 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,320 She wasn't on the train? Thankfully, no. She's been promoted and is now senior prosecutor CPS north-west. 125 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,080 But Gennis wouldn't know that. What else do we know about him? 126 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,560 Financial advisor, self-employed. He beats the shit out of his previous wife 127 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:49,800 and she gets scared, withdraws her statement. She emigrated to get away from him. 128 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,600 What a catch(!) Get a warrant. Spin his address. 129 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,640 If I knew what you were looking for, darling, maybe I'd help you. 130 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,400 You can start by sitting down till we're ready to take you in. 131 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,360 I'm not going to sit down. Why don't you tell me what this is about? 132 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,080 It's about the 15 people who died when your car caused a train crash this morning. 133 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,840 What are you talking about? 134 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,560 My car is outside, parked in its space, where I normally... 135 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,640 You've got to be kidding me. Obviously it's been nicked. 136 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,680 Obviously. 137 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:24,960 Sarge. 138 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,840 Hmm. Same train line. 139 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Planning a trip? What?! 140 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:41,120 Michael Gennis, I'm arresting you on suspicion of 15 counts of murder. 141 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,800 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention... Ow! 142 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,880 ..anything you rely on in court. 143 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,760 I had a meeting booked in with a client down in Portsmouth. 144 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,480 I was going to take the train. 145 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,960 OK. Can you provide us with the client's details? 146 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,240 It was months ago. He cancelled. 147 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,960 I must have just held onto the timetable. 148 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Look, this is nothing to do with me. 149 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,720 My car was stolen. But you didn't report it stolen. 150 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,120 I only found out this morning when you took my front door off, which you'd better be paying for. 151 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:12,520 When was the last time you saw your vehicle? Last night when I drove home, parked it and went inside. 152 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,200 How long have you been driving on false plates, Mr Gennis? 153 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,000 Hmm. 154 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,360 Alright, yes. I hold my hands up. I'm a speed freak. 155 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:30,000 Blame it on Jeremy Clarkson! Well, 103 speeding tickets have just caught up with you. 156 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Right. 157 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,240 You, uh... You don't like playing by the rules, do you? 158 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,000 Exceeding speeding limits, and beating up women. 159 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,040 I think you'll find the jury found me innocent. 160 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,120 They couldn't decide, which is a bit different. 161 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,320 But that was all about to change, wasn't it? 162 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,560 I very much doubt it. The new trial date set for next month must have made you angry. 163 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,320 Know what I think you did? I've a feeling you're going to tell me! 164 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,360 You drove your car onto those tracks and watched that train hit it, killing 15 people. 165 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,040 What?! Wow! Is he on something, cos that's... 166 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,960 You wanted Alicia Phillips dead. 167 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,320 Alicia Phillips died in the crash? 168 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,440 Right. Well, every cloud, eh? 169 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,520 No, she didn't. Shall I tell you who did? 170 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Oh, here we go. Oh, boy. 171 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,240 David Shelby died. 172 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,920 23. 173 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,800 Newly-wed. 174 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,080 Catherine Parkfield, 38. Mum of three. 175 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,960 Pregnant with a fourth. Her unborn baby doesn't count in the death toll list. 176 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,280 Sadly. 177 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:47,080 And Max Dale. He was seven years old. 178 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:52,760 He was on his way to meet his father, just back from a tour in Afghanistan. 179 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,640 You know, Gavin Dale will never see his son or his wife again! 180 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Because you killed them! What's the matter with you? 181 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,080 Get out of here! He's meant to be a police officer! Get out now. 182 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,440 Get out! 183 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,200 DS Casey, get in here. 184 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,720 What the hell was that? That bastard killed 15 people. He could not give a toss! 185 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,680 Don't EVER behave like that in an interview again. Understand? 186 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Maybe DI Chandler let you play bad cop but I will not have officers undermining prosecutions 187 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,440 with violence! 188 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Count yourself lucky he didn't want a brief today, otherwise you'd be suspended. Get to your desk. Now! 189 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,960 Is he... 190 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,680 Guv? 191 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:39,600 Yeah? SOCO's got two sets of dabs off the steering wheel. 192 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,680 One belonged to Gennis, but the other matched somebody else not on the system. 193 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,360 Maybe he lent the car to a mate. 194 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,960 We'd better identify those prints, otherwise Gennis's brief will only bring it up in court. 195 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Say someone else did it. Why don't we just ask him who was driving the car? 196 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,400 Another thing, Guv. It can't have been Gennis. 197 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,440 Unless he's got an invisibility cloak. 198 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,680 We've checked all the CCTV now. 199 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:04,760 Nobody went in or out of that crash site from the time the crash happened 200 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,560 till we sealed off the site. 201 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:10,320 Right. Well, if no-one's been seen going in and out of the site, 202 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,920 then maybe the driver was still in it, hiding amongst the passengers. 203 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,280 Talk to Intel. See if they've finished the background checks. OK. 204 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,480 Um, Guv... Yeah. 205 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,200 About Sam. What about him? 206 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,560 Well... 207 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:28,160 Yeah. OK. 208 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,840 I'm trusting you, Ron. Keep a tight leash on him. 209 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Sam, I know you're hurting. 210 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,520 I know you've got that kid's face right here. 211 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,280 But if you can't hold it together... Ronnie, look, I'm still here. 212 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,760 I was only in the job four weeks. They put me on Response. 213 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,080 I was the first one on the scene - car crash. 214 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,360 OK? Three kids, all gone. 215 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,560 I couldn't sleep for three months, mate. 216 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,960 That was an accident. This was deliberate. 217 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,240 You have got a boy of your own to think about now 218 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,000 and a job you need to hang on to. 219 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,400 OK? And let me tell you. 220 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,680 This is going to get a whole lot worse. 221 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:13,560 You've got the inquest, you've got the trial. All those grieving families wanting answers. 222 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,760 So, let's just get it right for them, eh? 223 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,280 Eh? Yeah. Come on. Come on. 224 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Hello, Kim. Hi, Ronnie. Anyone jump out at you? 225 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Apart from all the fake injuries hoping for a nice insurance settlement with County Trains! 226 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,360 We've got seven between the ages of 16 and 65 with no ticket 227 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,440 or who can't remember where they boarded. Have you P and C'd them? No criminal records. 228 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,360 Alright. Thanks, love. 229 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,720 Thanks. 230 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:49,480 What do you reckon? Our man hung around to admire his handiwork, then got stuck when we closed the scene? 231 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,120 Let's start with this one. He lied about where he got on. 232 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,800 You told the police you boarded the train at Wimbledon. 233 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,800 It was Surbiton. I stayed at a mate's house. 234 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Why would you lie about that, sir? I was confused. 235 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,320 I had a bang to the head, didn't I? 236 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,600 You couldn't have been that confused. 237 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,080 I mean, you're still at work, aren't you? 238 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,760 If I don't work, I don't get paid. 239 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,760 You also showed the police an expired passport. 240 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,400 We're going to need to see a valid ID. 241 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,440 That's all I've got. What about a driver's licence? 242 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,920 I don't drive. 243 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,480 What? Not at all? 244 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,360 I barely make enough money to pay my mum housekeeping. How can I afford driving lessons? 245 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Cath, I am not asking to change my contact. 246 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,160 I'm not saying that. 247 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,280 All I'm asking is to... 248 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,200 What? You get him all week! 249 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,880 You get him all week and I get... 250 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,040 Is she not happy? 251 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,920 Most weekends, she dumps him with her mum. She's off partying. 252 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,920 How's it going to hurt if I get him for a weekend? 253 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Had your counselling session yet? 254 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,840 I'll get my therapy down the pub later. Don't worry about that. 255 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,240 Good. Right, then. Here we are. 256 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,120 Number 131. 257 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,000 No valid train ticket. This is Finn Tyler, 36, unemployed. 258 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,120 Cuts and bruises. Treated at the scene. 259 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Used his driver's licence as ID. 260 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,680 At least we know this one can drive! 261 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,680 Hello, there. Hi. Detective Sergeant Brooks, Detective Sergeant Casey. 262 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,400 We'd like a word with Finn Tyler, please. What's he done now? 263 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Is he hurt? 264 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,960 Not badly. 265 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,160 He doesn't live here, then? 266 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,960 We separated. A month ago. 267 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,560 Can you tell us where he is? 268 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,560 He lives in a bedsit round the corner. 269 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,920 I'll get you the address. 270 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,680 Hello. I like your drawings. 271 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,560 It's a triceratops. 272 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,760 It means three-horned face. Really? 273 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,680 You're very clever, aren't you? 274 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,960 I'm going to be a palaeontologist when I grow up. 275 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,640 He looks a bit mean to me! 276 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,720 He's going to keep me and Mummy safe. 277 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,840 In case Daddy goes funny again. 278 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,440 'Who is it?' 279 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,080 Police. 'Just a minute.' 280 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,360 Finny Tyler? DS Brooks. DS Casey. 281 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,360 The driver's licence you showed the officer at the scene 282 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:10,080 had your wife's address on it. The separation's only temporary till... 283 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,560 I get myself back on my feet. Still, 284 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,360 might be best to let the DVLA know your details, yeah? 285 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,400 We need to see that licence. 286 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,400 That's my little girl, Ellie. Bridesmaid at my brother's wedding. 287 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Yeah? 288 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,120 That must be tough, being away from her. 289 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,520 Your arm's bleeding. 290 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,640 Did you get that in the crash? 291 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Flying glass. 292 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Right. 293 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,240 Have you got any spare dressings? 294 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,120 We don't just do CPR, you know. I reckon I can bandage a cut. 295 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,960 Over there. 296 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Take a seat. I'll have a look at it. 297 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Pop your top off. 298 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,600 This isn't from flying glass, is it, Finn? 299 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,320 It is. It is! 300 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,600 It's too clean, Finn. 301 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,320 It's too clean. 302 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,720 That was done by a blade. 303 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,200 How long have you been cutting yourself? 304 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,960 How long? 305 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,680 It started when I was a kid. 306 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,240 But I stopped when I met Amanda. 307 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,840 She made everything right. 308 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,840 When little Ellie came into our lives, 309 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,080 I thought I was healed. 310 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,880 And why did it start again? 311 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,920 When I lost them, it all went dark. 312 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:52,000 It stops when I cut. 313 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,240 For a while, it all stops. 314 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,360 Well, you know what, Finn? 315 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:02,040 I don't think you got this cut in the crash at all. 316 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,160 I think this was done to make it look like it was hurt in the crash. 317 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,800 Am I right? 318 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,880 Something make it "go dark" again? 319 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,480 I never meant to kill anyone! 320 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,560 But you did, Finn, didn't you? 321 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,680 You killed 15 people. 322 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,520 I meant to kill one. It was supposed to be me! 323 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,280 We were convinced Gennis was guilty. It was his car, he had a motive. 324 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,920 But Finn Tyler's DNA is all over that vehicle. 325 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,960 And his confession is water-tight, as you see. 326 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,800 Do you really think Tyler intended to kill himself? 327 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,080 Why? Does it make a difference? It might influence how we charge him. 328 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,160 Why? You've got his DNA in the vehicle. His fingerprints are on the steering wheel, 329 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,560 and there's a signed, taped confession. Without a solicitor present. He didn't want one. 330 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,080 He was seen by a mental health professional? Yeah. 331 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:26,280 The FME. He was confident... He was confident Tyler was fit for interview. 332 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,520 I'd like to see it. 333 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:34,360 It's by the book, Jake. I sincerely hope you're going to charge him with 15 counts of murder 334 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:36,640 and 120 counts of attempted murder. 335 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Cos I was at that scene, and I saw what he did to those people. 336 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,960 It was unequivocal intent by Finn Tyler. 337 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,120 He drove his car onto the tracks knowing the train would crash. 338 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,960 If he was thinking logically, I agree. 339 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,480 But if he was suicidal, logic goes out the window. 340 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,640 It seemed to make a reappearance when he escaped the vehicle and saved his own life. 341 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,320 Screw everyone else's. 342 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,960 We charge murder, 15 counts. Drop the attempted murder charges if you have to. 343 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,880 He's confessed, so it saves us the cost of a trial. Who's repping him? 344 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,720 Kate Barker. 345 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240 Kate Barker? You know her? 346 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,200 Met her with Joseph Holland, Manchester. Big time crack dealer. 347 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,400 CPS north-west had him bang to rights, only he coughs up for Kate Barker as Counsel. 348 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,280 She's the one that got Holland off? 349 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,480 She took tenancy of the set in London about three months ago. 350 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:31,520 An attractive barrister, new on the scene, and you don't know about it? You're losing your touch, Jake! 351 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,560 She's doing this on Legal Aid. 352 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,840 Don't let that fool you! 353 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,640 'Diminished responsibility.' 354 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,520 My client has a history of depression 355 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,640 with emotional, unstable, personality traits. 356 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,800 I was hoping you'd surprise me. Jake, by the way. 357 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Finn Tyler grew up in care. 358 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Shocking childhood, a prolific self-harmer. 359 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,640 Perfect dad for four years 360 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,200 and then he loses his job and his wife dumps him. 361 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,920 Won't let him see his kid. 362 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,520 He is going to break the jury's hearts. Jury? He confessed. 363 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,320 Yeah, about that - the police forgot to call in an appropriate adult. 364 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,840 He didn't need one. The forensic medical examiner assessed him fit for interview. 365 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Oh? With his slashed wrist still gushing blood? 366 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,000 Really? I thought we were here to discuss the plea. 367 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800 We are. But if we can't agree, this will go before a jury. 368 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,880 What does he want me to agree to, exactly? 369 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Manslaughter, diminished responsibility. 370 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,680 The judge will see concurrent sentences are the best option, if she doesn't make a hospital order. 371 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Hospital order?! Tyler deserves prison for life. 372 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,960 You can't expect us to treat this as though he killed one person instead of 15. 373 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,160 But that was his intent, to kill one person - himself. 374 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Shame he didn't have the balls to stay in the car, then. 375 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,680 You can make me a counter. 376 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,280 I do love a good barter. Please, make yourself at home 377 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,360 We're charging murder, 15 counts. 378 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:57,880 The only bargain you're getting off me is the 120 dropped attempted murder charges. 379 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960 I'd say you got a good deal. 380 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:01,840 No. Not good enough. 381 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,920 The incarceration of mentally disordered offenders is a passion project of mine. 382 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,200 This will make a great case study. 383 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,640 Ah, now I get the legal aid. 384 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,560 Oh, because all defence barristers are interested in is a page count, right? 385 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,960 Maybe I'm different. 386 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,120 And was his responsibility diminished? 387 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,600 There's a giant chasm between suicidal thoughts 388 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,320 and crashing a commuter train because your wife left you! 389 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,800 That's not mad, it's selfish. 390 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Sounds like Kate Barker isn't the only one making this a passion project. 391 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,280 I find suicide hard enough to understand, but taking other people with you? 392 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,880 That's unforgiveable. 393 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,000 Get the police to talk to Tyler's wife. 394 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,200 Maybe she can fill in that chasm. 395 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,520 When he lost his job, he told me he'd been given an admin role. 396 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,280 They wanted people to work from home. He said he volunteered so he could spend time with Ellie. 397 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,920 And how did he explain his vanishing wages? 398 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,640 He didn't. Put everything on credit cards. Mortgage, utilities, the lot. 399 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,640 And you found out? Ellie's HLP. What they used to call gifted. 400 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,760 She won a part scholarship to a private school. 401 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,480 Because I was doing my nursing training, I got a bursary to cover the rest of her school fees. 402 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:22,560 We were away at half term, at a friend's cottage in Yorkshire. 403 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Want sugar? No. No, thanks. 404 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,480 The headmaster rang. 405 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,400 Said that Ellie's fees were a term and a half late. 406 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Finn had maxxed out credit cards and spent her bursary, too. 407 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,120 So you gave Finn his marching orders? 408 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,880 I told him I wanted him out. 409 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,760 He was crying, begging me not to leave him. 410 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,280 I mean, I could forgive him the debt. 411 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,200 The lies, even. 412 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,640 But not Ellie's school fees. 413 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,120 She's been given a chance neither of us ever had. 414 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,520 I slept in with Ellie that night. 415 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,280 And the next morning, when we tried to leave the cottage, 416 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,480 he wouldn't let us. 417 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,640 He got violent? 418 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,440 He locked the door, he barricaded it. 419 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,720 He had a kitchen knife. Ellie was terrified. 420 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,160 It took me three hours to talk him down. 421 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,480 Get him to let us go. 422 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,480 I honestly thought he was going to kill us all! 423 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,080 Do you know why I'm here today? 424 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,320 To see if I'm mental. 425 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,640 Your solicitor wants to say you're not guilty of murder 426 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,640 because you're mentally ill. 427 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,440 Do you think you're ill? 428 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,240 I don't know. 429 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,360 All I know is I wanted out. 430 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,320 I couldn't even get that right. 431 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,480 I screw everything up. 432 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,400 My marriage, 433 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,960 my daughter. 434 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,560 I can't even end my own life without making a mess of it. 435 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Is he psychotic? He's full of shame and rage, but psychotic, no. 436 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,600 He's bitter, resentful. Towards his wife? 437 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,920 I think he wanted to get back at her. 438 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,760 "I killed myself and 15 others, and it's all your fault." 439 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,040 That's got to be hard to live with. 440 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,600 But did he ever intend to go through with it? 441 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,520 If he did, he knew perfectly well he was going to take a lot of other people with him. 442 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,800 And that doesn't suggest a mental health disorder 443 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,680 sufficient to demonstrate an abnormality of the mind. 444 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,800 I've read both the reports, and while it's clear Mr Tyler was suffering depression, 445 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,200 and insecure attachments from his time in care, 446 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,920 I'm still not convinced he's suffering an abnormality of the mind. 447 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,480 My Lady, the defendant was evidently suicidal following the break-down of his marriage. 448 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,040 If this isn't an abnormality of the mind, then what is? 449 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,320 My Lady, relationships break up. People feel a little low. 450 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,760 They don't all try and derail commuter trains! 451 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,560 A little low? You can tell you've never had a relationship worth hanging on to! 452 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480 I'm inclined to agree with the Crown, Miss Barker. 453 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,760 If your client wants to plead diminished responsibility, so be it. 454 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,120 But it's up to the jury to decide whether or not he was suffering an abnormality of the mind 455 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,000 at the time the offence was committed. 456 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,600 'He remained at the scene.' 457 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,040 He mingled with the real passengers. 458 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,520 He used the penknife to inflict superficial wounds to his hands and arms. 459 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,920 He was treated by paramedics and then released. 460 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,880 How would you, as a police officer, interpret these actions? 461 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,360 He was trying to blend in. 462 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,640 Get away. 463 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Like any other hit and runner. 464 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,120 I understand you arrived at the scene about 20 minutes after the crash. Yes, I did. 465 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,120 Am I right you attempted to give CPR to a young child 466 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,280 but sadly were unable to save him. 467 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Yes. A seven-year-old boy, Max Dale. 468 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,720 I did everything I could 469 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,920 but he died. 470 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,000 That must have been incredibly challenging for you. 471 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,760 Traumatic. 472 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,160 That's my job. 473 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,360 Even so, you're a father. 474 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,240 I'm sure having a child your son's age die in your arms 475 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,880 must have affected you greatly. 476 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Yes, I suppose so. 477 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960 You must have felt very angry with whoever was responsible. 478 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,760 Of course I felt angry. 479 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,240 But I remained professional. 480 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,600 You arrested Mr Tyler. Yes, I did. 481 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,960 Interrogated him. I interviewed him. 482 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,560 He confessed to an officer who had held his dying seven-year-old victim in his arms. 483 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,400 He admitted his guilt at his arrest. 484 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,120 And once again during an interview. 485 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,000 No-one put any pressure on him. 486 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,680 Did you make any special arrangements for Mr Tyler? Special arrangements? 487 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,800 Were any special precautions taken while he was in custody? No. 488 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,120 Are you quite sure about that? 489 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,320 He was on suicide watch. 490 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,520 Nothing more, My Lady. 491 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320 Kate Barker scored a hat trick off Sam Casey. 492 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,480 If Tyler was on a suicide watch, he must be mentally ill. That's how the jury will see it. 493 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,560 Feeling suicidal could be seen as remorse for his actions. That's evidence of sanity. 494 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,200 How he felt after is irrelevant. All the defence has to prove is his state of mind at the time. 495 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,960 Kate Barker is using this case as a soapbox to highlight the cuts in mental health provision. 496 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,040 How too many mentally ill people end up being criminalised by the State. 497 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,560 That will resonate with the jury. Everyone's angry about NHS cuts. 498 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,160 I have to dash. 499 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,120 This case isn't about cuts. 500 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,120 I won't let her distract them. 501 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,160 Dr Holdsworth, 502 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,240 the antidepressants you prescribed have a number of side effects. 503 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,600 All medication has side effects. 504 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,080 Perhaps you could tell us the ones caused by this particular medication. 505 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,240 Nausea, decreased appetite, raised cholesterol, sexual problems. 506 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:10,120 Insomnia, nightmares, agitation, confusion, hallucinations, suicidal thoughts. 507 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,320 Well, in some cases, yes. 508 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,000 Finn Tyler was also a prolific self-harmer. 509 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,880 I had no idea he was self-harming. 510 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,040 All I saw was a man feeling down over a marriage break-up. 511 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,880 Nothing more. 512 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,520 What a shame you didn't see a man in severe crisis, begging you for help. 513 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,200 Because then 15 lives might have been saved. 514 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,400 My Lady, did I miss the question there? 515 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,160 The jury will disregard the last comment made by Miss Barker. 516 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,920 Dr Holdsworth, you were the last medical professional to see the defendant before the train crash. 517 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,560 You saw him a month before when you prescribed the antidepressants. 518 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,000 That's right. Did he appear as though he was suffering with a mental health disorder? 519 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,160 He was behaving like a spoilt child. 520 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,480 When he didn't get what he wanted, he had a tantrum and stormed out. 521 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,760 What made him so angry? I suggested he try the antidepressants and use some relaxation techniques. 522 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,680 But he wanted sleeping pills. 523 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,200 I'm not in the habit of dishing them out without very good reason. Because of budget cuts? 524 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,400 No, because I don't want patients becoming needlessly reliant on addictive medication, 525 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,080 especially when they have a history of addiction. 526 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,920 My Tyler has a history of drug addiction? Alcohol abuse. 527 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,360 He was treated in rehab for alcoholism in 2004 528 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440 and again earlier this year. 529 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,120 Amanda, hang on a sec. 530 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,520 Did you know Finn was an alcoholic when you first met him? Yeah. 531 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,920 But I really believed he'd stay sober, for me and Ellie. 532 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,160 What made him start drinking again? 533 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,920 He had a run-in at work with his brother Daniel. 534 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,960 It just triggered something in him. He's so jealous of his brother's success. 535 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,560 What sort of business was it? 536 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,640 Um, security. CCTV monitoring, mainly. 537 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,200 Daniel's got contracts up and down the country. 538 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,720 What was the name of the company? 539 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,600 Haleton Security. 540 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,320 Daniel Haleton was spoken to after the crash about security and any disgruntled employees. 541 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,120 We even asked him for a list of anyone that had been let go in the past year. 542 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,200 He never mentioned his brother? No. And because Tyler was unemployed, 543 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,040 there was no reason for us to ask about his last employer. 544 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,640 Haleton was paying him cash so Tyler never made it onto any books. 545 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:37,000 Because of the different surnames, we just didn't connect any dots. 546 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,680 Mr Haleton, 547 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,160 you gave your brother a job at your firm, Haleton Security. 548 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120 I felt sorry for him. He'd just lost his job 549 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,200 and Amanda was doing her nursing qualifications. 550 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,600 I believe you fired him because he was unreliable. That's right. 551 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,280 He was drinking. I paid for rehab, but he was just as bad when he got out. 552 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,280 You and your brother grew up in care. We had a rough start. 553 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,200 But you've got to put the past behind you. 554 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,680 Do you think this was a genuine suicide attempt? 555 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,040 No. 556 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,000 I think he wanted to get back at me. 557 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,480 How would causing the train crash get back at you? 558 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,600 My company had the contract with County Trains. 559 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,680 It was my firm that watched the gate that he broke through. 560 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,600 So Finn knew about the shift change? 561 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,800 He knew the best time to hit that gate? 562 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,560 It was his job to watch it. 563 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,120 Looking a lot more like revenge than diminished responsibility, to me. 564 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,760 You can't be mentally ill and vengeful? 565 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,000 What about school shootings? 566 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,160 Bullied, demoralised teenagers, depressed, seeking revenge. 567 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,920 Any jury with half a brain cell will see Finn Tyler for exactly what he is. 568 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,280 An angry, vengeful man who needlessly murdered 15 people to get back at his brother. 569 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,320 Come on, Miss Barker. No last word? 570 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,240 When the court's heard from our psychiatrist, I'm calling Finn Tyler. 571 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,000 I'll leave the last word to him. 572 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,280 I saw you with Henry. 573 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,680 Were you jealous? 574 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,280 I've got to get this. Sorry. 575 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,480 Hello. Kate Barker. 576 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,520 'I never had a dad.' 577 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,120 Mum was an alcoholic. We were in and out of care homes from as early as I can remember. 578 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,000 I started drinking when I was 12, 579 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,520 self-harming when I was 13. 580 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,480 And you carried on as an adult? 581 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,240 It was how I coped. 582 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,640 Your brother is a successful businessman. 583 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,560 He told the court he'd moved on from his damaged past. 584 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,720 Fostered by a decent family, wasn't he? 585 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,640 They adopted him. Sent him to a good school. 586 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,160 He was never pushed from pillar to post like me. 587 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,880 Why did your marriage break down? 588 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,080 Daniel sacked me. I was so scared of losing Amanda 589 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,040 I never told her. 590 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,000 When she found out I'd run up so much debt, she freaked. Kicked me out. 591 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,880 I tried to get myself together again, but... 592 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,480 She wouldn't let me see my little girl. 593 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,880 Without here, there... Well, there was no point. 594 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,800 So you took that car and drove onto the tracks. 595 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,640 Tell me, Finn, did you honestly intend to kill yourself? 596 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,000 Yes! Didn't you realise other people could be hurt? 597 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,800 I thought the train would wipe out the car 598 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,600 and keep going, like a tube train when someone jumps in front of it. 599 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,360 But you got out of the car. 600 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,440 Why did you do that? 601 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,920 I saw the train coming and... 602 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,720 I saw Ellie crying at my funeral and I couldn't. 603 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:00,880 I tried to hot-wire the car again, but it wouldn't spark. 604 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,160 I swear to God, I never meant to hurt anyone. 605 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,160 I'm so sorry. 606 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,640 If you really wanted to kill yourself, why didn't you throw yourself off a building? 607 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,440 I wanted to make sure I didn't survive to be a burden on my family. 608 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,440 You could have jumped in front of a tube, taken an overdose. 609 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,960 That's why I wanted the sleeping tablets, but the doctor never gave them to me. 610 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,760 What was the real reason you caused the train crash? 611 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,720 I wanted to kill myself. Was it to get your wife's attention and get revenge on your brother to boot? 612 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:49,120 I mean, she's been here for you every day, hasn't she? 613 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,400 Yeah. You got her attention. 614 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,600 And it only took 15 lives. 615 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,320 My family is everything to me. 616 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,640 Do you expect us to believe you thought no-one else would be hurt? 617 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,240 I wasn't thinking straight. And you didn't want to leave your little girl without a dad. 618 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:09,120 I couldn't. What about the fatherless or motherless children you created with your reckless lies? 619 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,520 I never meant... Your daughter gets to see you. Maybe only once a fortnight at the prison. 620 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,920 But there are 16 children who will never see their mummy or their daddy again, because of you! 621 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,720 "Poor me"? "Poor Finn Tyler"? 622 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:27,960 You can watch Ellie grow up, make friends, pass exams, get a boyfriend, get married. 623 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,400 Max Dale's father is here today. How do you think he feels? 624 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,880 He will never see his wife and son again. 625 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,800 Maybe you'll be lucky enough to help Ellie choose what subjects she takes at school, 626 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,080 what she wears on her wedding day. All Gavin Dale will choose is what flowers to put on his son's grave! 627 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,840 Is this a speech, My Lady? Mr Thorne, please. 628 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,400 You could have chosen a method of suicide that didn't endanger others. 629 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,320 You could have saved all those children who lost parents from a lifetime of misery! 630 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,880 That's not diminished responsibility! It's cowardice! 631 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,360 Jake. 632 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,960 If he gets a hospital order, he'll be out in six months. 633 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,720 Or detained for the rest of his life. He's not mentally ill. 634 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,480 The doctors in a secure unit will spot it in a second. 635 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,560 He'll be out the doors before we know it. It's all "ifs", Sam. 636 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,920 If the jury find him guilty of murder, he's facing 15 life sentences. 637 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,760 Have you been drinking? 638 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,360 Yes. I had a couple at lunch time. So what? 639 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,960 Let's hope the jury's back Monday with good news. 640 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,840 Good news?! 641 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,080 There's no good news for Gavin Dale. 642 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,440 That bastard wiped out his entire family! 643 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,960 Please answer either yes or no to my first question. 644 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,760 Have the jury reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 645 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,200 Yes. 646 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:04,800 On count one, on the charge of the murder of Max Dale, how do you find the defendant, Finn Luke Tyler? 647 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,040 Guilty or not guilty? 648 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,600 Not guilty. 649 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,360 But guilty of manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility. 650 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,360 On count two, on the charge of the murder of Marnie Dale, 651 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,680 how do you find the defendant, Finn Luke Tyler? 652 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,720 Guilty or not guilty? 653 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:30,320 Not guilty. But guilty of manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility. 654 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:40,520 Finn Luke Tyler, you have been found guilty on 15 counts of manslaughter 655 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,920 by reason of diminished responsibility. 656 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,040 I am therefore sentencing you to a hospital order 657 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,000 with a Section 41 restriction. 658 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,360 You will not be released without leave of the Secretary of State. 659 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,480 He'll get treatment in hospital. 660 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,720 He'll apply for release in six months. 661 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,320 He deserved 15 life sentences. 662 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,920 Maybe he did. 663 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120 You agree he was criminally responsible? 664 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,040 He did a terrible thing, but it could have been averted. 665 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,760 Millions spent on prisons, while mental health takes the brunt of the courts. 666 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,160 I don't make social policy. No. You just clean up after those that do. 667 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,000 Oh, it's been fun(!) Has she told you the good news, then? 668 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,960 I didn't think it was fair during the trial, in case it distracted you. 669 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,880 Apart from your awful taste in footwear, there's little you could do to distract me, Miss Barker. 670 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,680 Kate. You should definitely start calling me Kate. 671 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,800 Especially as you'll be sharing an office. 672 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,560 Kate will be joining us from Monday. Alicia's replacement. 673 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,640 Who's for a celebratory drink? Yeah. 674 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,720 I'll see you there. I just need a quick work with my client. 675 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,360 If you could just get your client to sign that for us, 676 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,600 and nominate a family member, we can get his property to them. 677 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,360 Let's see. Estranged wife or loving brother? 678 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,080 Here to see Finn Tyler. 679 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,280 If you want to hang on a tick, I'll get this right back. 680 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,080 Tyler's in number eight. 681 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,760 What are you doing here? 682 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,360 Sam? 683 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,840 Sam, what are you doing down here? Sam? 684 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,880 He's dead! 685 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,320 Tyler's dead. 686 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,840 subtitles by Deluxe 64185

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