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[eerie theme music plays]

MAN: There's this thing inside of me, it's like...

the appetite.

It's like a wolf that's...

filling...the hunger.

♪♪

MORGAN: From a behavioral standpoint,

he's appearing like someone who's lost in his head

and perhaps responding to delusional elements that we

can't see or hear.

TUSSEY: There's certainly a flavor of paranoia.

He's making comments like, "I know what you all have done

to me," but it's unclear what he's really referring to.

It's possible that this is all part of a ploy,

that he wants to present himself

as someone who's mentally ill.

TUSSEY: Does he have a real mental illness?

Or is this part of an act?

If someone is having a psychotic episode,

they may not be in full control of their actions.

MORGAN: The phenomenon of hearing

voices or having auditory hallucinations,

Usually something we consider in

the world of the domain of schizophrenia.

But most individuals who have voices

don't volunteer that they're hearing them.

You usually have to ask about them.

That definitely raises a red flag for me,

when he volunteers them like that.

If this is more psychopathy, less psychosis,

this is the ultimate manipulation attempt,

because he is using intelligence,

his knowledge of symptoms of mental health conditions, and

acting them out in order to be able to maintain his innocence.

Why stop at I'm hearing voices coming out of both ears

when I can add in, voodoo?

Bynum sounds delusional, but he's trying to

figure out, how do I play my cards?

He's wanting to commit to feigning

psychiatric symptoms, likely for a defense.

It's not very compelling.

TUSSEY: In the crime scene photos,

it looks like wounds that are

inflicted by somebody who's full of rage.

It's not once, it's not twice.

It's multiple times -- the sheer volume

and severity of the injuries is really stunning.

MORGAN: He is very more into

the psychopathic realm than the delusional realm.

He has significantly mutilated her body.

There's a level of rage and intent and deliberation to

the act -- for me, these all link to narcissistic rage.

MUNDY: The detective has his number.

Let me get this guy talking about himself.

His own ego will undo his ability to protect

himself here.

This guy seems very impressed with himself,

despite a lack of achievements.

MORGAN: The most insulting thing to the narcissist is actually,

in general, the real world.

Most people can grow up and adjust, and they're mature.

He's rather narcissistic.

He does strike me as somebody who was

very angry about not having reached that potential.

Perhaps she didn't believe in his grandiose,

inflated sense of his abilities.

MORGAN: For people who are psychopaths,

fantasy is more important than reality, but his girlfriend is

not conforming to his fantasy, and that enrages him, because

it doesn't fit in his grand picture of himself,

and it's not her fault, but in his mind, it is.

So for her to say, now

you're just talking crazy, would be a trigger to make

him angry.

TUSSEY: He feels disrespected when

she's, quote, running her mouth.

Someone who has psychopathic tendencies wants to be in

control of the situation,

and this perceived loss of control only

fuels that rage.

Whereas he couldn't do anything

about his professional basketball playing,

he can have control over the situation, and he did.

[phone buzzing]

MORGAN: In the weeks leading up to the murder,

There are numerous text messages back and forth

between Bynum and Remmi,

are worth commenting on from a psychiatric standpoint.

Remmi writes to him, "You know I love you,

"but things have to improve.

You spit in my face. I'm getting tired of that."

And Bynum responds,

"What is you talking about?

"One moment you love me, the next moment,

you want me to leave."

And Remmi writes back a little bit later,

"I thought it would be different."

Bynum responds, "Make a difference,

then, instead of talking and running your mouth."

It is a threat to his narcissism

to hear people giving him feedback,

and then that moves him into behavior

that's some psychopathic.

TUSSEY: This text indicates a failure of

his accepting responsibility,

rather, it's her.

Okay, well then you make a difference.

But we don't see any indication that he's actually

recognizing that he's a contributor to their

relationship problems.

This is another excerpt from a text exchange, where Bynum is

saying, "The mind games aren't

gonna work," and Remmi responds by saying,

"I'm not playing mind games. This is my life.

What about you being wrong? Are you ever?"

To which Bynum responds, "Sweetheart,

"God don't like ugly.

He knows exactly what's going on and what's going to happen."

He is manipulative,

and this is the mind game that he's playing.

She's going to conform to what he wants,

since it's never his fault.

[phone buzzing]

TUSSEY: He does, in another text,

make a sexual reference about how he could keep her mouth

shut using sexually provocative language.

And in that instance, it shows his attempt

again to control that through sexual means.

MORGAN: In many cases with psychopathy and violence,

sex doesn't become a pleasurable, intimate act

between two people.

It becomes something that's aggressive

and violent and done to the other person,

either to put them down or shut them up.

In the majority of cases, if someone's delusional,

they continue to act in a way consistent with their delusion.

But in his case, we do see behaviors that he's not

a delusional mental health case, but instead, someone who's

thinking clearly, rationally about what he's doing and

hiding evidence.

MUNDY: He's aware of the tactical importance --

not that he has a mental illness or not,

but of the perception that he has a mental illness, that he

is symptomatic, and that if he did kill her, that he did it

due to a mental illness, and it's not his fault.

I'm just gonna take off the clothes, likely, with

the blood on it before I go

to the local convenience store and act odd to set the stage

that something is wrong with me.

MUNDY: Lakeside Behavioral Center,

I guess it's some psychiatric center

where he received treatment -- one,

he's introducing more material to say, hey,

I want you to think I have a mental illness that's making

me not responsible for this -- two,

I want you to think

that my dead girlfriend also thought I had a mental illness.

MORGAN: I don't believe him when he says,

oh, I wouldn't do that with my daughter there.

And I say that, because I haven't seen any

expressions of remorse or consideration for other

people's feelings.

We don't hear any concern about her future.

What will she think of it? How will she react?

Who will she live with? This is a lack of remorse

that's really commonly seen in psychopathy.

MORGAN: There's a wide range of reasons

why people have sex with dead people.

He says it's getting the voodoo magic out of him,

but in the big picture, it sounds more like psychopathy

to me.

There's not a sexual satisfaction, there is a power

satisfaction from it.

TUSSEY: Psychopaths sometimes do engage

in sexually deviant behavior.

Having sex with a dead body is the ultimate control for him.

He's letting her think

there's a relationship between the medications and voices.

The medications he says he takes are not medications that

are used for schizophrenia,

the core symptoms of someone hearing voices,

being delusional.

So this is him creating a story in

the mind of the interrogators to manipulate

their view of him.

Again, something that we see in psychopathy.

When he said, "Just seeing -- no, I mean, just hearing,"

I thought that slip-up was actually significant.

He's not speaking from experience,

from the experience of having hallucinations.

So I think he's thinking on the fly,

trying to figure out what to say,

and he's not doing a great job.

He looks more like a manipulating psychopath.

He's trying to manage the interrogation

so they think he's crazy, but I don't believe that he is.

TUSSEY: He's so callous, and he talks about this as if

he's on stage at a comedy show,

you know, and talking about how weird this experience is

for him, but in fact, he's talking about the murder of

his girlfriend.

TUSSEY: He's created this fantasy that he could have

been, would have been, should have been,

this professional athlete,

and, um, is upset and angered

that nobody seems to really realize that about him.

And I think mom really puts him in his place by saying,

"Maybe you did have good skill,

but your attitude far exceeded what your skill level was."

MORGAN: We certainly have a hint that he was a bully.

That behavior is commonly seen in

people who go on to become psychopaths.