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MAN: There's this thing inside of me, it's like...

the appetite.

It's like a wolf that's...

filling...the hunger.

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SAHNI: He was high on cocaine.

He was fairly heavily intoxicated, it appears,

and so his impulsivity would have been increased.

Yet, when he didn't find an axe, that wasn't the signal to just

retract and back away from that plan

and use it as a cooling off to just get away from her.

He then sees a hatchet, and he gets

the bright idea to kill her with the hatchet.

So there's still some organization to his thought

process, even though he wants to

believe and hold on to the idea that the drugs made him do it.

BERRILL: The word escape is interesting.

It has some meaning, I think,

that is deeper and more relevant,

and his concern is that she was escaping,

but you don't escape after you've been hit in the neck

with an axe or a hatchet to

the other end of a couch -- that's not an escape.

SAHNI: What we know is that the girlfriend was finally going

to leave him, and he was aware of that,

and there had been an argument that night.

Psychopaths like to stay in control of their situation.

They have, in many regards, pretty fragile egos.

They don't handle rejection well, and having her leave him

is not a reality he likely would have accepted.

I don't think he was worried about the mother suffering

at all -- I think this is another

opportunity for him to use his glib and superficial charm

and to present like he's being helpful,

he's the hero, and it's very chilling,

when we're talking about somebody murdering

their girlfriend in front of her daughter.

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He literally is laughing as he is

talking about raping a 14-year-old girl.

His narcissism is front and center here.

His desire for control and his lack of remorse is astonishing,

and also what we see in some psychopaths.

BERRILL: And who could do that?

He's not pulling himself back, what he's doing is

saying, well, what else can I do?

I mean, there's a piece missing

from this guy's psyche, that's for sure.

There's a lot of very twisted

and perverse behavior here,

all based on rage.

SAHNI: What we know is that Jennifer convinces him

to call his mother, because she's in survival mode,

and she's using a level of decision-making

that is profound.

It's clearly outrageous that, after subjecting this kid

to this -- this horrific whirlwind of violence,

that he would be saying, like,

"woe is me" and then invite her to commit suicide with him.

I mean, how is she supposed to respond to any of this?

I mean, it's preposterous, and he's so selfish

and so self-absorbed that he doesn't even grasp

the enormity of what's just happened.

The possibility that surprising someone

in their own apartment because you find them attractive

would result in a sexual encounter --

it's preposterous, and he's pathetic and dangerous,

because when he's in this mode,

he's capable of committing murder.

When he gets it in his head, and he's high enough,

these cuckoo ideas are acted on.

I think it does put him in the psychopathic spectrum.

He's operating from the framework of like an infant,

you know, like a teenager.

He talks about essentially if she hadn't been attractive,

he wouldn't have tried to enter her apartment

and wanted to have sex with her.

But he also actually says that essentially the reason

he suffocated her is because she started screaming,

she started protesting, and if she hadn't said anything,

he likely would just have left.

So I think that willingness to blame the victim like that

and to do it in such a matter-of-fact way

is some of that callous, cold nature

that we see in psychopaths.

TUSSEY: This was a planned attempt to cover his tracks

and to avoid getting arrested,

and I think what's the most horrific is

just the...

the way he discusses it so calmly,

as if he's going to the store to buy groceries.

Just wrapped her up, and put her in a shopping cart.

It is egregious, the lack of concern

or remorse that he has for her.

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It's very possible that that was the birth

of this identity as a killer -- at age 16,

even though he wasn't certain if he was a killer,

he latched onto that as a potential identity.

And that, again, may have been foreshadowing for

what we see happens later on in life.

That accident could have opened the doors for

him to think that he could kill again,

and he did.

He demonstrates textbooks psychopathic qualities.

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