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Man: THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST,
IF NOT THE MOST, HEINOUS,
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ATROCIOUS, AND CRUEL CASE THAT
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH
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IN MY 24 YEARS
AS A DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
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Man: THERE'S A THING INSIDE
OF ME, IT'S LIKE...
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THE APPETITE.
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IT'S LIKE A WOLF THAT'S...
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FILLING...THE HUNGER.
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Woman: FRIENDS DESCRIBED
LISA UNDERWOOD AS
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A SUPER RESPONSIBLE MOM
AND BUSINESSWOMAN.
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SHE LIVES WITH
HER SEVEN-YEAR-OLD SON, JAYDEN,
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IN NORTH FORT WORTH.
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WE CALLED HOSPITALS
BEFORE WE CALLED
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THE POLICE BECAUSE SHE IS
SEVEN MONTHS PREGNANT.
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Woman: LISA'S 2002 DODGE DURANGO
IS ALSO MISSING.
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WE ARE TALKING
TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE,
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MANY OF WHICH ARE VERY CLOSE
TO MISS UNDERWOOD.
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SOMEONE LAUGHING WHILE HIS
EX-GIRLFRIEND IS MISSING MIGHT
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FEEL REALLY COLD
AND CALLOUS AND UNEMOTIONAL.
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Tussey: IT'S REALLY STRIKING
THAT HE'S COMPARING WOMEN TO
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A BUFFET LINE WHEN HE'S BEING
INVESTIGATED FOR A POTENTIAL
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DOUBLE HOMICIDE.
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HE OBJECTIFIES THEM.
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HE DESCRIBES THEM AS
SOMETHING TO BE
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CONSUMED CHEAPLY.
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SO HE WAS MARRIED, AND HE WAS
HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH LISA,
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BUT JUST LYING DOESN'T
MAKE YOU A PSYCHOPATH.
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IT MAKES YOU A LIAR.
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Tussey: ONE OF THE TRADES OF
PSYCHOPATHY IS GRANDIOSITY,
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AND IT SEEMS HE PERCEIVES
HIMSELF TO BE
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INTELLECTUALLY SUPERIOR
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AND CAN MAYBE GET AROUND
WHATEVER IT IS
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THEY'RE TRYING TO GET AT.
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Woman: DODD SAID
HE GOT A CALL FROM BARBEE
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SAYING HE'D RUN OUT OF GAS.
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DODD TOOK THE GAS TO BARBEE
ON FARM ROAD 407.
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HE SAID ONCE THERE,
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BARBEE OPENED THE BACK OF
A BLUE SUV, AND THAT DODD SAW
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THE BODIES OF A WOMAN
AND CHILD IN THE BACK.
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THEY'RE LETTING HIM KNOW
THEY THINK HE KILLED HER.
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AND FOR SOMEONE TO GO,
WELL, THAT'S VERY UPSETTING,
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OR THAT UPSETS ME...
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IT COULD BE A SIGN
OF SHALLOW AFFECT.
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IF IT'S SOMETHING
QUITE SERIOUS, LIKE A MURDER,
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WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE
A GREATER EXPRESSION OF
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ANGER OR SADNESS.
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[ BLOWS NOSE LOUDLY ]
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[ SNIFFLES ]
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SHE HAD BROKEN RIBS, UM,
AND LOTS
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OF DAMAGE TO AND AROUND
HER FACE,
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WHICH MEANT THAT HE HAD TO
HAVE BEEN
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EITHER KNEELING ON TOP OF HER
OR HITTING HER.
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SHE HAD MULTIPLE BRUISES.
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SO THIS FELT SUPERFICIAL
TO ME.
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I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS
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A GENUINE DISPLAY OF EMOTIONAL
DISTRESS ABOUT A VICTIM.
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TO SAY, "I DIDN'T HURT HIM,
I JUST CLOSED HIS MOUTH."
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HE'S CRYING, SOBBING ALMOST AS
IF HE PITIED HIMSELF IN THIS
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TERRIBLE SITUATION HE WAS IN,
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RATHER THAN THE SITUATION THAT
HE VOLUNTARILY ENTERED INTO.
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Man: IN A WOODED AREA,
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INVESTIGATORS FINALLY
MADE THE DISCOVERY.
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WE KNOW THAT
THE GRAVE CONTAINS
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THE BODIES OF A FEMALE
AND A MALE CONSISTENT
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WITH THE AGES OF LISA
UNDERWOOD AND HER SON, JAYDEN.
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THERE'S A LOT OF FOCUS ON HOW
HIS LIFE IS RUINED, HOW HE'S
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GOING TO GO TO JAIL FOR A LONG
TIME, AND HOW HIS LIFE IS OVER,
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WHICH I THINK ALSO EXEMPLIFIES
THAT CALLOUS LACK OF EMPATHY
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THAT IS SEEN IN PSYCHOPATHS.
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AND I HEAR SO MUCH MORE
OF HIS PITIFULNESS
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AND "POOR ME" THAN I SEE ANY
GENUINE EXPRESSION OF REMORSE.
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Man: TWO DAYS OF SEARCHING FOR
10-YEAR-OLD JAMIE ROSE BOLIN
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CAME TO A DEVASTATING END
FRIDAY AFTERNOON
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HERE IN THE TOWN OF
PURCELL, OKLAHOMA.
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Man: UH, THIS IS
ONE OF THE MOST,
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IF NOT THE MOST, HEINOUS,
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ATROCIOUS, AND CRUEL CASE THAT
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH
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IN MY 24 YEARS
AS A DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
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IT'S A FORM OF WHAT WE CALL
A BEHAVIORAL TRYOUT,
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AND SOMETIMES YOU SEE THAT
WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS.
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THEY'LL START MUTILATING, UM,
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DOLLS OR SOMETHING AS A WAY OF
KIND OF LIVING THE FANTASY,
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AND THAT NO LONGER
IS SUFFICIENT,
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WHICH IS WHY THEY SELECT
ACTUAL VICTIMS.
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WELL, IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD
INDIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW?
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I MEAN, IT REALLY WASN'T
IMPORTANT TO HIM
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WHAT HER NAME WAS --
A LOT OF TIMES,
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PARTICULARLY WITH
SERIAL KILLERS,
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THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A TYPE.
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SO WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHAT
THE PERSON'S NAME IS?
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HE FOUND
A VULNERABLE VICTIM.
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HE HAS BEEN RELYING
ON THE VIRTUAL WORLD,
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SO HE MAY HAVE INTERACTED
WITH PEOPLE WHO HAD
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SIMILAR INTERESTS.
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Berrill: I'M NOT SURE
HE'S FULLY GRASPING
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HOW UNUSUAL, HOW BIZARRE
HIS THINKING IS.
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Berrill: SOME PSYCHOPATHS HAVE
DIFFICULTY CONTROLLING
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THEIR IMPULSES.
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HE, IN THIS CASE, IMPRESSES
AS RELATIVELY IMMATURE.
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YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO IS
SOCIALLY SORT OF BACKWARD
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IN SOME WAYS.
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THERE'S A LOT OF
IMPULSIVE BEHAVIOR HERE,
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BUT NOT A LOT OF FORETHOUGHT
ABOUT WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES
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WOULD BE.
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IT SHOWS A LACK OF
APPRECIATION OF WHAT HE'S DONE.
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HE'S COMPLETED THE ACT.
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HE'S DONE WHAT HE'S WANTED TO
DO, AND THEN HE MOVES ON.
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Berrill: AND HE KNOWS
WHAT HE JUST DID,
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AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM
TO BE ANY REMORSE.
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Katsavdakis:
"I HAD A HORRIBLE 24 HOURS.
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"THAT GIRL THAT LIVES
UPSTAIRS FROM ME
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"WENT MISSING LAST NIGHT,
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"AND I'VE BEEN WORRIED SICK EVER
SINCE, MAINLY WITH THE WORRY
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"THAT I WAS GOING TO BE NAMED
A SUSPECT AND THE POLICE
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"WOULD TRASH MY APARTMENT,
SEARCHING IT WHILE I WAS
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"AT WORK.
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I'VE HARDLY ATE IN 24 HOURS."
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I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW
OR BELIEVE THAT
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HE'S ACTUALLY ANXIOUS.
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I THINK HE HAS SOME KIND OF
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COGNITIVE UNDERSTANDING THAT
HE'S GONNA GET IN TROUBLE.
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SO THE REACTION HE'S HAVING IS
MORE ABOUT BEING APPREHENDED,
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UM, AND THEN, POTENTIALLY,
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"I MAY NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO DO THIS AGAIN."
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Berrill: "I'M AFRAID THE COPS
WOULD COME INTO MY APARTMENT
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"AND SEE ALL MY HORROR MOVIES
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AND DOCUMENTARIES ABOUT
SERIAL KILLERS."
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HIS SCREEN NAME
IS SUBSPECIES23,
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WHICH IS AN INTERESTING
CHOICE OF NAME.
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IT'S ALMOST LIKE
AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT
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THAT HE HIMSELF IS
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A SUBSPECIES, THAT REALLY --
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THAT HE'S NOT QUITE HUMAN.
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