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Previously on Forgive Me
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Jesus Christ. John!
John! Jes.. Gene!
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Is it true about the
Prelate? You know,
what they say?
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He's dead, yeah.
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He killed himself?
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They're dismantling
an enterprise I've spent
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fourty years building and
caring for. And now it's
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going to die on my watch.
On my watch actually.
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John Dominic: They
are going to turn the parish
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against you for lying, and
pretending to be something
you're not.
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That's not true.
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John Dominic: It doesn't have
to be true.
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The Bishop's office
called. You're the new Prelate.
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I always wanted to
be the Prelate.
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Whether or not I wanted to be
the Prelate who tries to sell
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off the pews while the
church gets reduced to
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rubble is probably a
different question.
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We can either stick
around here and come out of the
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closet or we've got to
leave the area.
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You want me to come
out of the closet?
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Yeah, as my daughter.
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When these saints
visit you, what do they do?
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Christopher?
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Well, medication might
help you sleep.
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They're not worried
about me sleeping. They're
worried
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about my brain tumor.
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It's back?
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Gene?
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Gene, what's going on? Are
they taking his things?
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No, they're bringing
things in.
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What things?
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The Bishop's things.
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The Bishop is
coming back?
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Yes, he'll be visiting
for awhile.
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You'll hear things
in this booth that you'll
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spend the rest of your life
wishing you never heard.
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Why do you think they
told you in confession?
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So you would
know and not tell.
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They sucked you in. You're
part of the cover-up.
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How low would the
settlement have to be for the
church to survive?
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Why?
You put me in charge
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of the parish, sir. I just want
to know what I'm up against.
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Who do you
think you're up against?
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The parish? Me?
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Frankly, whichever one
of you
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is trying to tear down
my church.
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That remains to be seen.
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What did you think would
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happen when you let this cat
out of the bag? When you
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gave him a 40-year old
letter saying the Priest
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knew about his abuse, huh?
This is what happens.
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Roman Soldier:
Renounce Jesus Christ! Renounce
him!
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[screams]
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[screams]
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Woke ya.
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No, you didn't.
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Sure I did.
I can always tell.
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I asked you not to come here.
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Well, this is my church.
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Not for long.
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Forgive me, Father,
for I have sinned.
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Stop. Stop. I'm not
taking your confession.
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Hey. I'm going
to drop it.
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What?
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The lawsuit. Priest:
No, please don't do that.
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It'll save the
church from the wrecking ball.
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Well, maybe so
but it shouldn't be save
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like that, alright?
It'll be sick, it'll be wounded
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There will be no chance for
forgiveness.
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No, there can be
forgiveness. Because maybe
I'm ready.
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It's me. I'm the one
that has to forgive, right?
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What you need to do
is not settle, alright?
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Do not drop that lawsuit.
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I only have so much
strength and stamina for this.
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I can only handle
so much of this.
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With me you're not
alone. I can help you be
strong.
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You won't even talk
to me.
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Dropping the lawsuit
isn't going to heal--
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This did not happen
to you. I don't want to
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hurt you anymore. I don't
want to hurt this parish.
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It shouldn't be a
choice between
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It's not working
anymore. It's just opening old
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wounds and shedding fresh
blood. I'm fucking done with it.
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Let it go.
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Morning.
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Good morning. This
is weird, right?
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Weirder for you, but
yeah.
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Did you
ever imagine this?
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I mean, did you ever
think of me this way?
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You're very pretty, so.
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Did you ever
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No.
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No, I never thought
I'd have sex again.
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You thought about it.
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Yeah. Yeah, but not with
you if we're being honest.
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So, how was it?
After all that time.
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There were a lot of
firsts about last night.
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I don't have the words.
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I'm afraid.
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Of? Priest: All
the things that could go
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horribly wrong as a result
of this.
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Who are you
going to tell?
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No one.
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Well, then no one
will no.
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So what do we say now?
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I'll confess it to you.
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Well good.
Who do I confess it to?
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Me.
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There's so much wrong
with this situation.
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I'm a Priest. I'm in a situation
of authority over you.
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Ah, that position
you were in last night
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That's not what we
call the position of authority.
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It's quite the opposite.
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I'm not a kid.
I've got twenty years on you.
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Let's not make this into that,
okay? This is not that.
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No, of course.
Whatever this is for
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you, I did it because I care
about you. I know you care
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about me. You've proven
that over and over.
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I just wanted to be
with you.
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This is going to destroy
both of us.
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Let it. Torch it.
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This shithole life could use
some rebuilding.
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I'm a little worried
about the people that get caught
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up in that bonfire.
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Then that's their
problem.
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I won't tell anyone.
Alright, how do I
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explain where I was last night?
Don't say
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here. Or do. Tell them you
were here comforting me.
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Because that's true.
It doesn't matter.
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I became the scandal I was
trying not to let them make me.
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There is no
scandal here.
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Is this even real?
Well, as these
things go,
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my feelings are real.
I'm still afraid.
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I won't tell anybody.
I'm not afraid of
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you telling anybody. I'm
just l'm afraid of how I feel.
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I've never done the
morning after thing, you know?
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I'm just kind of
freaking out a little.
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Stop thinking. Stop
plotting. Breathe. Okay,
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without all that stuff,
without Bishops, without
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churches, scandals, without
vows, how do you feel?
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Happy.
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How's the sermon
coming along?
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It's, uh, fine, I think.
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Let me know if you want
any feedback. Your first
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sermon's a big deal.
You'll remember it.
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Right.
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Young Priest: You can go in now.
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Arch Bishop: Come
in. Close the door.
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-Your Grace.
- I'm---
Arch Bishop: I know who you are.
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You've made quite an impression
around here, to be sure.
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Not by design,
your Grace.
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Arch Bishop: Well, maybe not
by intelligent design.
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I've uh--- I've
made some mistakes, yes.
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Arch Bishop: Why are you here?
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To appeal to your sense
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of right as it
regards my parish, sir.
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Arch Bishop: So you think I need
you to tell me what's right?
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No. But
I do think that you need
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more information. A clearer
picture, more than one
perspective.
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Arch Bishop:
You think the Bishop has
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misrepresented the situation
in your parish?
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Possibly.
Probably, yeah.
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Arch Bishop: Sit down.
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Your Grace,
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the Bishop has a vested interest
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in the outcome of
the child abuse settlement.
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Arch Bishop: And you don't?
I guess
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maybe we all do, but the
Bishop was aware of the
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abuse from the very
beginning. He had the report
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from the mother and he was
aware of her suspicions.
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Enough so, sir, that he sent
the accused to a different
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parish out west. He was an
active participant in this
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cover up, sir, and it's
something that he would very
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much like to keep covered
up. He should not be
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negotiating on behalf of
the parish.
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Arch Bishop: Your former
Prelate, um--- Well, he,
um, left us
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dramatically. He told me
that you've already
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betrayed the church and the
victim. Who do you think
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should be negotiating?
You.
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Arch Bishop: That would cause
considerable delay in the
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process. I'm not nearly familiar
enough with this history.
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The Bishop
wants that settlement to be
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high enough that the church
gets bulldozed in order to
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pay for it. Our congregation
will scatter, all the
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institutional memory will be
buried.
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Arch Bishop: What do you want?
I just want justice.
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And, I want to save my church.
Arch Bishop: In which order?
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It doesn't serve the
victim at all if that church
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gets knocked down. I know
that's not what he wants.
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He loves the church.
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Arch Bishop: You know
his mind rather well.
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Yeah.
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So you're telling me
that he would take a humbler
settlement
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than the Bishop is offering.
Sir, I believe that
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he would if we could offer
him some kind of guarantee
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that the church was
standing afterwards.
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Arch Bishop: And the Bishop
would sacrifice a house
of God in order to
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protect his own reputation?
I know that he would.
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Arch Bishop: Now, how
do you know these things?
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That the Bishop is involved
with covering up abuse?
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Does it, does it matter?
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Arch Bishop: Well, it's a big
accusation. You have any proof?
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I'm not asking to
testify against the guy in
court.
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I'm just asking that you
remove him from the negotiation.
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Arch Bishop: So you don't have
any proof.
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He told me.
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Arch Bishop: Why would he
do that?
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To be forgiven for it.
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Arch Bishop: By you?
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By God.
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Arch Bishop: So you've come
here to desecrate a sacrament.
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No, sir.
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Arch Bishop: You-- You've broken
the seal of the confessional.
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Why should I
not have you laicized?
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I found a letter, an
old letter about the abuse
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with the Bishop's name on
it. I took the letter.
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I furnished it to the accuser.
The Bishop came and told me
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in a confessional when he
was vulnerable. He told me
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before I had the chance to
find out. He's the one
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that desecrated the
sacrament, not me.
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Arch Bishop: But how do you know
he's protecting himself
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and not somebody else?
The only other
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priest that was mentioned in
the letter was Father
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Genesius. The victim knows
about that already.
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He punched Gene in the face.
Arch Bishop: Well, what
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about the names not in the
letter? How do you know who
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made these terrible decisions?
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That's what a lawsuit
would be designed to
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uncover. That's exactly
what a settlement is
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designed to cover up.
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Arch Bishop: So you
believe Genesius and the Bishop
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were the only ones who conspired
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to send the child abuser to
another parish?
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With all due respect,
there's no way I could
possibly know that.
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Arch Bishop: These things tend
to be a Pandora's box.
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The accuser will settle.
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Arch Bishop: And he told you
this I gather?
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Yeah, but not in
the confessional.
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Arch Bishop: You're asking for
an awful lot of blind faith.
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If you don't
have it, who does?
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Arch Bishop: Look, I don't
doubt your earnestness, son.
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But what if you're wrong?
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If O'Leary won't
settle for less,
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we're right back where we are
right now. But he will settle.
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Arch Bishop: And when did
he tell you this?
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This morning. It was
yesterday-- It was last night.
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Arch Bishop: So you--- you're
very close to this accuser.
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I've seen a
fair bit of him, yeah.
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Arch Bishop: Really? You do like
to play with fire, don't you?
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Your Grace,
what I'm asking you for;
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for the Bishop to be removed
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from the negotiation is just the
simplest route for all of us.
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If you refuse, Mr.
O'Leary will reject any
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settlement offered to him
and he will instigate the
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court proceedings. And that,
sir, will be your Pandora's box.
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Arch Bishop: And why
would he do that?
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Because I'll ask him to.
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Arch Bishop: Wait here.
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Young Priest: Do you want
anything now? Coffee, water?
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No.
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Do I know you from somewhere?
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Young Priest: You were ahead
of me at the seminary.
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We overlapped by a
year. I remember you.
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What's he doing?
Young Priest: I don't know.
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Praying for guidance?
You in trouble?
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Always.
Young Priest: Still. Later.
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Arch Bishop: You will
negotiate it.
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Are you sure
about the optics of that?
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Arch Bishop: Well,
we're not going to look good
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no matter what we do.
But if you have some sort of
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influence over this accuser,
use it. Formally.
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What about the Bishop?
Arch Bishop: What about him?
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He's going to see
this as an attack by me.
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Arch Bishop: Isn't it? What,
are you afraid of the Bishop?
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Well, he's
a pretty scary guy, yeah.
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Arch Bishop: Well, you wanted
to play with the big boys.
Now you are.
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Sir, if you were
to handle
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the negotiation there
wouldn't be any repercussions.
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Arch Bishop: No. No, I
wouldn't touch any part of this.
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This is a fourty year old child
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abuse complaint against a
parish employee that
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you've dug up and the
Bishop wants to bury.
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And you along with it. And an
accuser over whom you seem
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to have some sort of
inexplicable influence.
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No, this is your parish.
You are in charge.
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He's in charge
of the Diocese.
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Arch Bishop: Fight it out.
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The mediator will be in touch.
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Thank you, your Grace.
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Next time on Forgive Me
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And upon further
reflection, after a lot of
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thought, it no longer seems like
the right course of action to
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pursue a civil suit
against the church.
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Romantic love, it
doesn't have to be sexual.
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Listen, I can see that
you're judging yourself very
harshly.
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But you've sat on this side
of the booth and you've
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heard other people
say that they've broken
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vows; marital infidelity, an
oath, perjury. And how
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harshly did you judge them?
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