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Female Narrator: 'Previously on Forgive Me':

[sexual moaning, grunting]

[sexual moaning, grunting]

Come in!

[sexual groans]

[slap of whip]

[sexual groaning]

[panting]

I should order you a psyche eval?

I'm not crazy, I'm not mentally ill,

it's just that every time I tell people

that I'm not afraid to die,

everyone acts like I've lost my mind.

Even the other priests.

Even though dying is how you get to heaven.

That's how you get to the kingdom of God.

This thing in my brain,

this mass could be my key to the kingdom.

That letter's almost 30 years old.

It was to my mother.

I think I should sue.

Sue? The church?

I don't want you to tell anyone.

About any of this, the lawsuit, the letter, none of it.

If your bosses see the letter they're gonna just--

it's gonna give them a chance to cover it up,

they'll cover it up more. They wouldn't.

I don't think that they would cover this up.

Genesius did.

No, he didn't. Gene reported it. He reported it.

You can see that in the letter that you have.

Yeah, well he didn't go to the police.

No, but... hey, this work both ways.

Hey, Gene couldn't go to the police, with something

your mother told him in a confession, all right?

He couldn't, just like right now,

I can't go to the authorities, I can't go to the higher-ups

with this plan of yours to sue the church.

You have my word, I will not tell anybody, I can't.

That uh, man, the choir master who molested Johnny O'Leary--

What?

He was a priest.

No, he was a choir master.

Before that.

He was never a priest!

Not here, not here, up in, up in Cape Breton.

In Cape Breton?

[sighs] He was uh, he was defrocked

or he packed it in, I don't know, but...

I found some letters.

You didn't know...

that he had been a priest back then?

Gene?

It-it was a long time ago but I did not know he was priest.

Ever a priest!

Good.

Good morning. G'morning.

Where's Gene?

He said something about a lawyer.

He went to a lawyer?

I have some information for ya.

About what?

About the letter.

The letter that you brought me.

Look, you asked me to find out if the higher ups ever responded

to Father Gene's letter.

Back before he came here he was a priest.

Some other diocese, he got in trouble up there

for messing with a boy.

? 'Ave Maria' by Christopher Frances Mitchell ?

? 'Ave Maria' by Christopher Frances Mitchell ?

? 'Ave Maria' by Christopher Frances Mitchell ?

[in pain, Italian rambling]

[in pain, Italian rambling]

[whimpering]

[gasping and heavy breathing]

[groans softly and whimpers]

[sobs, moans and gasps]

[sobs, moans and gasps]

[sobs, moans and gasps]

[sobs, moans and gasps]

[Italian ramblings]

[whimpers, heavy breathing]

Christo!

[moaning and laboured breathing]

[moaning and laboured breathing]

[sobs with Italian ramblings]

[sobs with Italian ramblings]

Christo!

[whoosh sound]

[Prelate] He has not discussed it with me at all, I assure you.

[inaudible response]

When was I elevated? Yeah.

I want to assure you that-that this is the first

I've heard of it. [inaudible response]

Good morning! Good morning.

You slept in.

I had a headache.

Serious?

It's not too bad.

Umm, this is Bishop Beliveau-Brown.

Yes, of course.

The bishop has raised some questions

we'd like you to answer.

Okay [sighs].

It's about a Jonathon O'Leary.

You know who that is?

Yeah.

Mr. O'Leary is alleging sexual abuse in his history,

in the diocese.

Do you know anything about that?

Not that I can talk about.

About the abuse?

Alleged.

Alleged, abuse?

I don't know how to answer-- Mr. O'Leary is penitent.

Have you spoken to him outside the booth?

A couple of times.

Did you give him the letters?

[sighs]

Why does it matter?

Covering up cover-ups is no longer church policy,

isn't that right?

Whether there was any kind of cover-up hasn't been determined!

[chuckling] Oh, I think it has!

The abuse itself hasn't been determined!

His mother told Gene about it.

And Gene told you. You covered it up.

And how do you know all this?

[sighs] It's in the letters.

Which you've read.

He asked me for them, I gave them to him.

Without talking to the Prelate or myself?

To what end?

To discuss it!

He asked during confession.

We don't discuss that!

Asking favours is not part of the sacrament.

It was relevant.

The letters contained information that could help him.

Assist his healing, his spiritual healing.

Oh! Well! Nothing to do with the lawsuit he's filed then?

There was no cover-up of what he did here.

The mother didn't know and the boy didn't tell anyone.

So we had no evidence to turn over to anybody.

Did you look?

I didn't know the past history of the choir master,

and neither did the Prelate at the time.

And if we had known he had abused other boys--

Then you'd have believed him?

The boy never said a word!

It was his mother who didn't feel right,

she had a feeling, a suspicion.

Well, somebody knew something.

Right? Obviously, somebody knew something,

or he wouldn't have been shipped

from parish to parish to cover it up.

Why are you-- you're presuming a lot

because people didn't talk about those things in those days,

I mean sure, from time to time there were whispers

and euphemisms but there was no Oprah or Jerry Springer.

Nobody admitted to sexual abuse of a child.

You think we didn't do our best to protect the congregation?

You knew. It says as much in the letters.

I knew more than Father Gene.

I didn't know the kind of details you're talking about.

So what the, the devil's in the details?

It wasn't enough to know he was a child abuser

in the general sense?

You take that tone with me, you'll find yourself

closing down parishes in Labrador tomorrow!

I was barely higher up than Genesius.

Everything we did was wrong, a royal fuck up!

What, you think we acted out of malice?

It's because you're young and stupid.

He is not stupid!

Yeah. Smart enough to get you fired.

I'm not trying to get anybody fired.

You don't know him.

Wouldn't be the first young priest I've seen,

trying to shorten the rungs on the ladder he's climbing.

I've got my own problems.

I've said you're wrong. Let it go.

Why didn't you come to us?

It-it didn't seem in the interest of the congregate.

You're a member of this order, huh?

If you'd come to us we could have settled

the whole matter out of court.

This is hardly unprecedented,

we have methods to reduce the impact on the parish,

and the pain and suffering on the accuser,

When there's a lawsuit things can go very badly

for all parties.

Yeah. Like other victims hear about it and come forward.

That's unlikely to be the case here,

the accused wasn't in the city all that long.

Long enough.

I mean in a settlement, the parish survives.

The congregation doesn't suddenly stop coming to church.

Stop tithing, donating, volunteering.

What were you thinking when you went looking for those letters,

when you gave them to someone

who you knew could turn around and sue?

That his soul was in turmoil.

For his whole adult life.

I... I just thought I could help somebody.

Like actually help somebody.

Help him destroy the parish?

I don't think that's what he's doing,

I know it's not what he wants.

Well, it's what's going to happen.

The lawsuit's been filed.

It's a matter of time until the word gets out.

The press.

Does he trust you?

I think so.

Can you get him to withdraw it?

Tell the court he was confused?

Uh, but he's not.

Would you try?

It's not up to us, okay, he has to do, whatever's going to undo

the damage as much as he can.

Is it undoing the damage to have a parking lot

where the church now is?

Are you blaming me?

I'm trying to get a sense of what the hell is going on.

We usually have a chance to do that before the court does.

I didn't sign on to protect pedophiles.

The pedophile is long dead.

We don't know what happened here.

Or to cover-up for people who protect pedophiles.

No one is protecting.

Are you accusing me? Huh?

Are you saying that you didn't know?

Be careful.

I've been careful.

Hardly.

Even I don't know what I knew at this point.

Someday you'll know how difficult it is

to remember the details from 40 years ago.

If I make it that long.

Don't say that.

You went into the archives and you provided materials

to someone you knew would use them against the church.

I went into some boxes in the basement.

Okay? I didn't break into the Vatican.

[laughs]

I'm glad you all think this is funny.

None of it is funny.

You don't go rifling through church property.

And you don't go giving church property away to anyone.

Even if they ask. Do you understand?

Yeah.

And you also need to stay out of this.

You're implicated in one of the letters.

Happily I shall stay out of it!

And you... need to not blame someone

for the mistakes you made when he was in diapers!

I mean, you made a judgement in error when you were his age!

Y'you can't take it out on him for not hiding it for you.

This has all got to stop.

And we have to be part of it stopping,

not the alternative, I can't even put words to.

You done?

Good, because you need to turn your attention

to which of the four of you in this parish

is going to retire from the priesthood.

We're not accountable.

It's not about accountability.

It's about the bottom line.

Mr. O'Leary's going to win his case.

The money has to come from somewhere.

The lawyer fees have to come from somewhere.

One of you is gone immediately.

End of the month. That's to start.

What's going to happen to you?

It's not up to me, what happens to me.

And it sure as hell isn't up to you.

I'm letting you decide who in this rectory needs to go.

Because you've been such good sports,

and I'm feeling very, very generous about the whole thing.

You can let me know who's off the payroll

by the end of the week.

If this even remains a parish, we can then figure out

what to do with the rest of you.

Go in peace, brothers.

[door closes]

I look forward to you explaining to me

how you could do what you did.

Me?

No. That I understand.

[exaggerated sigh]

[knocks on door]

They want me to tell you that you can get more money

if you settle out of court.

That's not what the lawyer said.

Fine. I mean, I told you what they wanted me to tell you.

Listen to your lawyer.

Well, what do you think?

Should I settle?

I'm not a lawyer.

Just putting money aside-- it's not all about money, is it?

For me, and the church it's-- just move on.

Put it behind us, just clean it up.

Should I settle?

I don't know.

I mean, I don't think that you should worry

about what the church is going to do,

they have people thinking about that, believe me.

I'm a member of the church, how can I not think about

what's good for the church? It's [sighs], it's one and the same.

That is very kind of you.

Seriously, it's probably a lot kinder than we deserve.

[sighs] I couldn't have done this.

I couldn't have faced any of this if you weren't there.

That's what they think too, but you can, right?

You're the one being brave, it's not me.

[incredulous chortle]

They might not keep me. I dunno.

Keep me in the parish or keep me at all.

I just, I just want you to know,

I might not necessarily be able to be here for you.

I want to be-- I just don't know

if it's going to work out that way.

Why?

They're scared.

Scared of me?

No, what people will do.

When they find out.

This kind of thing, it brings down a parish.

People they don't give their money to child abusers.

You really think people are gonna care that much about me?

Yeah... I do.

[cries]

[cries]

[cries]

I don't want to hurt the church.

I know.

I don't wantcha to leave.

[sobs]

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Narrator: Next time on 'Forgive Me':

Hi.

You never come home anymore.

I hear the same about you.

You know Grammy, she hasn't changed.

Grammy didn't need to change.

[laughs] I do?

You drunk?

Blood of Christ.

Where did you get that?

I used to be an alter boy too, I know where you keep it.

I bought some black market information about a councilman

to destroy his career.

That's harsh.

Well, I need the conservative Catholic vote

and the adaptive Catholic vote.

The traditionalists are going to vote for the sitting councilman

unless I let his secret indiscretions leak out.

Is that safe for you?

You're not exactly a blank slate yourself.

My sins are safe with you.

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