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BRAD:
Every property
Charles Hackley developed,
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there's rumors of tunnels.
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Charles Hackley and the idea
of the Confederate gold
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was not speculation.
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Could Edwin Stanton have been
connected to Charles Hackley?
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It's a strong possibility.
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And Stanton was involved in the
murder of Abraham Lincoln?
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-Yes.
-Wow.
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11 feet across.
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-Six feet wide.
-That's what we're looking for.
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I'm getting a bad feeling
about these waves.
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Holy... [screams]
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♪
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NARRATOR:
In Muskegon, Michigan...
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-KEVIN: Hey, guys.
-Hey, there they are right now.
-Hey.
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NARRATOR:
...treasure hunter
Kevin Dykstra,
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his brother Al
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and underwater imaging expert
Brian Abbott
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have gathered
for an important meeting
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with members of Kevin's team.
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They are eager
to discuss the results
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not only
from recent diving efforts
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at the bottom of Lake Michigan,
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but also
from Kevin's trip last week
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to the Chennault Plantation
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in Washington, Georgia.
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Boy, we got a lot of stuff
to go over, guys.
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We had a very productive time
down there in Georgia.
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It was like being
in a 300-acre time capsule.
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You guys are not gonna believe
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-what we discovered down there.
-Well, let's hear it.
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This was the well-known site
from the Civil War
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where a lot of gold
and silver went missing.
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And, so, these guys
were down in the creek,
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where Gary Drayton
had a ton of success.
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NARRATOR:
Last week, Kevin, Al and Brad,
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along with
Marty Lagina's son Alex
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and metal detection expert
Gary Drayton,
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traveled to the grounds
of what was once
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the Chennault Plantation
in Washington, Georgia.
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-That's the one we want to hit.
-Yep.
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That'll be the golden bucket.
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NARRATOR: They were following up on a tip
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from one of the
Chennault family descendants
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who claimed that gold coins
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and other evidence
of Confederate treasure
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had been routinely found
by her ancestors
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near an old creek bed
on the property.
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-I got a ring!
-AL: Oh, yes!
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GARY:
That is a silver ring,
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-and that looks like
an oldie, as well.
-Wow!
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I mean, it was huge.
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It was just, like,
a treasure trove of artifacts.
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All kinds of evidence.
It just was really
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a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity
to dig on a place like that.
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-A lot of stuff here,
isn't there?
-Wow.
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-Whoa.
-That is amazing.
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NARRATOR:
The story
of the Chennault Plantation,
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along with the evidence
Kevin and the team found
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during their visit there,
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supports Kevin's belief that
at the end of the Civil War,
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portions of the Confederate
treasury were scattered
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and then hidden
throughout North America.
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Look at all this history
that took place on our property.
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That's just so exciting.
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When we set all that stuff out
on that table
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and Dan O'Leary saw
all those artifacts...
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-Mm-hmm.
-...I think he said,
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-"I'm gonna go buy
my own metal detector."
-Yeah.
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-He did, too.
-BRAD: He did, too.
That's right.
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-[laughs]
-So, what did you guys get done?
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We got one dive in,
uh, with some finds,
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but we ended up having
some really crazy weather.
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-No kidding.
-KEVIN: Were you able
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to get any sector scanning done?
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Yeah, we got a few drops done,
and I'd like to pull them out
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-and show you what I've got.
-Oh, great.
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NARRATOR:
While Kevin and his team
were in Georgia...
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BRIAN:
Diver in the water.
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...Brian, Jeff Zehr,
Frederick J. Monroe
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and Kevin's youngest brother,
Darren,
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continued searching the bottom
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of Lake Michigan
for additional evidence
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of a 19th century boxcar
that Kevin's research
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has led him to believe
was deliberately dumped
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into the lake while filled
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with millions
in stolen Confederate gold.
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Get ready to deploy the sonar.
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NARRATOR:
Although Kevin
had already applied
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for the necessary permissions
that would allow
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his team to excavate
previously chosen areas,
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he is hoping
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that he can amend his permits
to include
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a number of debris fields
that Brian Abbott discovered
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during last week's dives.
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Wow, this is phenomenal, guys.
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How many images
were you able to get?
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I probably got about ten images,
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but they're all
from different drops
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and different ranges.
So, three drops
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with different ranges
and so forth.
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I'll turn around here
and, uh, show it to you guys.
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BRAD:
You got some good pictures.
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BRIAN:
Yeah. So, you can see,
it's-it's clear.
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We were able to get
some good distance out.
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This is only a 90-foot scan,
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but we've got thousands
of targets down there.
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Excellent.
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KEVIN:
So, with an image like that
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with all of those targets,
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if we send somebody down there
with a metal detector,
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could you guide them
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-into those areas
that need to be checked out?
-Absolutely.
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-Yeah, as long as we have comms
with the diver.
-Excellent.
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BRIAN:
We've got
all GPS coordinates on this
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so we can verify
where exactly this is,
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and we can put you guys
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back on these individual targets
that are down there.
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Well, these look like
some pretty significant targets.
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That one shot almost looked like
a scatter-field.
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-BRIAN: Right.
-I definitely think
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we need to investigate
those targets.
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Mm-hmm. I agree.
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KEVIN:
We are doing so much.
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We're covering so much ground,
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and we're moving forward
in this permit process.
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Once we get that permit,
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the more areas
we have to search,
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the better chances we have
of finding that gold.
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I think we need to get up
on the lake and start doing
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some more searching.
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Yeah. We will.
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KEVIN:
All right, let's get to work.
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NARRATOR:
The following morning,
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Kevin and Al arrive
at the marina in Frankfort.
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They are eager to check out
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the areas where
Kevin's brother Darren
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and Jeff Zehr found
what they believed
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to be another promising debris field just one week ago.
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Did you check the waves at all?
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KEVIN:
It's gonna have to be
pretty brutal
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-for us not to go out today.
-AL: It's a good day
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-for treasure hunting.
-Hey, guys.
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-Hey. How are you, Kevin?
How you doing, man?
-AL: Hi, guys.
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-Brian. And you are?
-Captain Luke.
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Captain Luke? Nice to meet you.
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-Hey, Kev.
-Frederick.
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-Let's go find some gold, huh?
-[laughs]
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Let's get with it.
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[engine starts]
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Our plan today is to go back
to those areas where Jeff
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and Darren
got the sector scan hits
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because it's really promising.
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All right. We're good.
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KEVIN:
So we're gonna have
Brian Abbott
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try to put us
directly on top of those
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and then with the sector-scan
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can guide us
into those points of interest.
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I can't wait to get out there
and dive on those targets.
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-Looks like we got good seas
out there today.
-BRIAN: Yeah.
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I think so. We'll give it
a shot and see what we can do.
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Why don't we get our sonar
hooked up right now.
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All right. Good idea.
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-Oh, it's all hooked up already.
-Yep. Good to go.
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Would be nice
if we could get, like,
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three or four dives in today.
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NARRATOR:
According to Kevin's theory,
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in the late 1800s,
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a boxcar containing
stolen Confederate gold
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was headed across Lake Michigan on its way to Utah
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when it was mysteriously pushed off the back of a ferry.
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The enormous weight of the car
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combined with the weight
of the gold
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would have caused the boxcar
to shatter.
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It would also have created
a large debris field,
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which, over the course of time,
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would now lie hidden
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under layers of silt
and vegetation.
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Since the team
began sector scanning
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the bottom of Lake Michigan,
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Brian Abbott
has been building a mosaic
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of both potential dive
and sonar drop sites.
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But given the fact
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that the lake's
underwater visibility
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can drastically change
not only from day to day
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but from hour to hour,
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returning to the site
and finding the debris field,
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even with the help
of sonar scans,
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will not be an easy task.
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I don't know if you guys can
see. I see pretty good, uh...
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stuff crashing
over the-the walls out there.
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What are they looking like?
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Probably six to eight.
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KEVIN:
Oh, yeah,
they are coming over the walls.
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AL:
Yeah, that's not good.
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-KEVIN: Yeah. Oh!
-AL: Oh, look at that one.
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-KEVIN: Whoa!
-AL: Holy cow.
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KEVIN:
When we first get
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to the Marina and we look out
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over the bay here,
it's always pretty calm
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because we're kind of set down
in a hole here.
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But you cannot use this bay
as a guide.
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That big lake has 300 miles
of lake water
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coming at you. You don't know
what it's gonna be
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until you get out
of the breakwater.
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I don't like this, Luke.
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Yeah, let's head out
a little further there, Luke.
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-It's deceiving from back there.
-BRIAN: So, guys,
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I know it's a little rough,
so let's just take our time.
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But I'd like to build
the tripod,
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get it set up, ready to deoy
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and, uh, go from there.
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Grab some legs here.
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KEVIN:
We're gonna deploy this,
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but we're gonna have to get off
the back of the boat there.
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-I think
we need life jackets on.
-BRIAN: Yeah.
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-All right.
-BRIAN: Yeah.
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AL:
All right.
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-There you go.
-Thanks.
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KEVIN:
Al, why don't you
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come around this side here.
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-Okay.
-I'll get on the back
of the boat.
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Okay.
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Go straight up. There we go.
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-Okay.
-Okay.
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Hang on a minute.
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KEVIN:
Nice.
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BRIAN:
Watch yourself here.
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KEVIN:
Yep.
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Boy, I don't know, Al.
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-[laughs]
-AL: It's awful rough out here.
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KEVIN:
It sure didn't look like this
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-was this rough on shore.
-AL: No.
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KEVIN:
All right, guys.
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Let's, uh...
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let's find our target area.
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AL:
Let's do it.
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KEVIN:
All right.
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There's
a definite somet On a boat
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off the coast
of Frankfort, Michigan...
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Hang on, guys.
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...Kevin Dykstra,
along with members of his team
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and underwater imaging expert
Brian Abbott,
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are trying to relocate
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a possible debris field,
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one which Kevin hopes
could be the location
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of millions of dollars' worth
of lost Civil War-era gold.
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Yeah, I don't know
what's going on here,
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-but it scares me.
-Yeah.
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LUKE:
We lost our GPS, Brian.
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-BRIAN: Did we?
-LUKE: Yeah.
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BRIAN:
Ah, [bleep]. Okay.
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KEVIN:
We're losing the screen
on our GPS.
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Yeah, we're-we're losing
the signal.
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I don't know if it's these waves
that are rocking things so bad.
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Yeah, we got
a malfunction somewhere.
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Yeah, we... we got nothing.
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-Now we got to... Oh!
-AL: Oh!
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BRIAN:
GPS is going on the fritz here.
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AL:
What's going on with it?
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We're gonna shut this right off.
I don't want to damage it.
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-Can we guide him
from the Lowrance?
-Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
Since the GPS unit
on the boat is malfunctioning,
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Kevin is hopeful that the team
can still find their target
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by using
a Lowrance sonar system.
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Sometimes referred to
as "the fish finder,"
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the Lowrance sonar system
is primarily used by fishermen
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to track schools of fish.
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It is Kevin's hope that it
will also help guide the team
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to the same place
where Jeff Zehr
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and Darren Dykstra made
their previous dive.
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How far away are we?
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-KEVIN:
We're about 200 feet away.
-AL: All right.
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-He's doing good.
-Okay.
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Are they gonna holler out
at me when they...?
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Yup.
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-Okay.
-So if he and Brian
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can get this boat
over top of that waypoint,
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that's where we want to be.
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Okay.
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Say when.
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Uh... when.
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KEVIN:
Nice.
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BRIAN:
Okay, good job, man.
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NARRATOR:
Now that the team
has managed to locate
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what they hope is
a debris field,
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Kevin and Al will deploy the
MS-1000 sector scanning sonar
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in order to obtain
three-dimensional images
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of a possible boxcar,
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or, perhaps,
evidence of the stolen gold.
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AL:
Okay. All right, it's going.
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Okay, roger that.
I'll start recording,
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-taking sonar data.
-KEVIN: All right.
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40 should be...
All right, we're on the bottom.
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Roger that. On bottom.
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-Are you
getting data now, Brian?
-Yeah, I'm getting data.
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All right. Hold on.
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-Care if I come up
and look at that screen?
-Ah, no, man. Come on.
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-KEVIN: Ah, nice!
-So, how many feet is that?
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KEVIN:
Uh, we are 30,
60, 90, 120 feet away.
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We moved quite a bit
in a short time.
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Yeah, we did.
The wind's clipping pretty good.
303
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You seeing anything?
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KEVIN:
There's a definite...
something here.
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-That's a really...
-What is that?
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BRIAN:
It's got a weird shadow.
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It's kind of long.
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Ah, [bleep]. Geez.
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-Darn it.
-KEVIN: It tipped?
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BRIAN:
No, it's just...
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it's too much shaking.
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NARRATOR:
When performing a scan,
the MS-1000 requires
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anywhere from 30 seconds
to two minutes
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to make a full rotation.
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During that time,
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the tripod must not be jostled
in any way,
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or the scanned images may
appear distorted and unclear.
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This makes scanning
in rough conditions,
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such as the high waves
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Kevin and the team
are now experiencing,
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a challenging,
if not impossible, task.
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KEVIN: You know, being out on the lake at this time of the year,
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it can change in an instant--
you know,
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you talk about being
on a knife's edge right now.
325
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We could go out there,
calm seas,
326
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and within just a few minutes
327
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it could work up
into a full gale.
328
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We're totally at the mercy
of Lake Michigan.
329
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Okay, about another 20,
25 seconds.
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Al, I'll switch places with you.
Can you come and look at this?
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All right.
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-You got it?
-I got it.
333
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Slowly, let's bring
our aft around,
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bring the stern around.
335
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This whole thing right here.
336
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What is that?
337
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It's this area here
and this in here.
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Okay, it looks like something
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-isbroke in half, don't it?
-Yeah. It does.
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NARRATOR:
Is it possible that the team
has actually located
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a portion of a boxcar,
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the same one
that reportedly contained
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more than $140 million
in stolen gold?
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-Can we mark this location?
-Yeah, I'll-I'll mark it.
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Can you get
a measurement as well?
346
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BRIAN:
Ten... 11 feet across,
347
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five, six feet wide.
348
00:13:56,792 --> 00:13:58,838
-AL: Did you hear that, Kev?
-What?
349
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11 feet across
by five or six feet wide.
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-That's what we're looking for.
-BRIAN: All right.
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KEVIN:
We're really excited
about this target we found.
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We know that a boxcar
is approximately 35 foot long
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and approximately
seven to eight feet wide,
354
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but we need to get down there
onto that target
355
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and see what the exact size
of that is
356
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to make sure
that it is either a boxcar
357
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or possibly something else.
358
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How you doing?
359
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We have a 150 foot
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-of coil out now.
-Roger that.
361
00:14:27,779 --> 00:14:29,738
Okay, another 30 seconds or so.
362
00:14:29,781 --> 00:14:32,001
So let's get ourselves secured,
363
00:14:32,045 --> 00:14:34,917
and we'll go back and we'll pick
up the tripod and then move it
364
00:14:34,961 --> 00:14:37,964
-to our next
drop location, okay?
-Okay.
365
00:14:38,007 --> 00:14:39,530
Staying dry back there, Al?
366
00:14:39,574 --> 00:14:40,967
-Not really.
-Okay.
367
00:14:41,010 --> 00:14:42,142
You need anything?
368
00:14:42,185 --> 00:14:44,405
-Maybe my wet suit.
-Yeah.
369
00:14:44,448 --> 00:14:45,928
You know, I don't know
what you think,
370
00:14:45,972 --> 00:14:47,930
but I think, you know,
we got to seriously talk
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about getting down there--
that's why we're here, man.
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00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:52,369
I don't think it's safe.
To be honest with you,
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I think it's just getting too
wild out here as a cowboy ride.
374
00:14:56,504 --> 00:14:59,724
I think it's a very, uh,
dangerous situation to...
375
00:14:59,768 --> 00:15:01,770
put a diver in.
376
00:15:01,813 --> 00:15:04,338
Can we get at least
one more scan around?
377
00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:07,645
Guys, um,
378
00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:09,909
I think it's getting
kind of rough.
379
00:15:09,952 --> 00:15:12,085
It's... it doesn't seem
to be coming down.
380
00:15:12,128 --> 00:15:14,261
It actually seems
to be building a little bit.
381
00:15:14,304 --> 00:15:17,394
And you're working right off
the aft section of the boat.
382
00:15:17,438 --> 00:15:18,918
AL:
Holy [bleep]!
383
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Okay, all right.
384
00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:24,793
-Hang-hang on.
-You okay?
-Yep. Yep.
385
00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:26,360
KEVIN:
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
386
00:15:26,403 --> 00:15:28,579
All right, that's it.
We're done.
387
00:15:28,623 --> 00:15:30,364
Okay, we're done.
388
00:15:30,407 --> 00:15:31,974
-AL: Yep.
-BRIAN: You're good? You sure?
389
00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:33,236
-Okay.
-AL: Yup.
390
00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,065
BRIAN:
All right, here we go.
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-KEVIN: That's brutal.
-AL: Uh-huh.
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KEVIN:
I don't want anybody
to get hurt on this.
393
00:15:41,027 --> 00:15:43,072
You know, chasing this gold
with me is great,
394
00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:45,292
but it's not great
if people start getting hurt.
395
00:15:45,335 --> 00:15:47,163
BRIAN:
So, let's get out of here.
396
00:15:47,207 --> 00:15:48,556
It's too... getting too crazy.
397
00:15:48,599 --> 00:15:50,993
-I've got the data I need.
-All right.
398
00:15:51,037 --> 00:15:53,604
KEVIN:
It's really frustrating
knowing where that object is
399
00:15:53,648 --> 00:15:56,520
but knowing the lake
won't let you get down there.
400
00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:58,087
You don't want anybody
to get hurt.
401
00:15:58,131 --> 00:15:59,741
You don't want to lose
any equipment.
402
00:15:59,784 --> 00:16:01,656
You don't want
to damage the boat.
403
00:16:01,699 --> 00:16:03,527
But I'm totally worried
we're running out of time
404
00:16:03,571 --> 00:16:05,355
to find that gold
on the bottom of the lake.
405
00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:07,053
Watch the turn, Luke.
406
00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:09,098
It's gonna get kind of dicey.
407
00:16:09,142 --> 00:16:11,100
We get one big wave hitting
the back of this boat,
408
00:16:11,144 --> 00:16:12,449
and this thing's going down.
409
00:16:12,493 --> 00:16:13,581
Hang on.
410
00:16:17,193 --> 00:16:18,978
NARRATOR:
Although bad weather
411
00:16:19,021 --> 00:16:21,241
and rough water
has forced Kevin to end
412
00:16:21,284 --> 00:16:23,025
today's dive operation...
413
00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:25,419
-Whoa.
-...he is hopeful
414
00:16:25,462 --> 00:16:28,465
that Brian Abbott's
recently collected data,
415
00:16:28,509 --> 00:16:30,337
showing a possible
debris field,
416
00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:33,688
will eventually pay off
in the weeks ahead.
417
00:16:33,731 --> 00:16:35,733
MONROE:
Well, those waves
are treacherous.
418
00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:43,959
KEVIN:
Here's my shop.CHAD:
Talking about the Rebel Reward,
419
00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,874
CHAD:
Nice.
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NARRATOR:
One day after
their aborted dive efforts
421
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in Lake Michigan,
422
00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,271
Kevin Dykstra and his team,
423
00:16:51,314 --> 00:16:54,013
along with Alex Lagina,
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00:16:54,056 --> 00:16:56,276
gather in Kevin's
Muskegon workshop.
425
00:16:56,319 --> 00:16:58,930
Well, guys,
we're all excited about this.
426
00:16:58,974 --> 00:17:00,976
NARRATOR:
They're here
to meet with Chad VanderVen,
427
00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:05,285
a high-ranking member
of the Freemasons.
428
00:17:05,328 --> 00:17:06,808
Well, guys,
we got Chad VanderVen,
429
00:17:06,851 --> 00:17:09,115
who is a Mason,
and he's agreed to come in
430
00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:11,769
[laughs]: and share what
he's able to... with us.
431
00:17:11,813 --> 00:17:13,554
Well, I'm happy
to be here. Um...
432
00:17:13,597 --> 00:17:15,208
Are you in the Scottish Rite
or the York?
433
00:17:15,251 --> 00:17:16,774
-Both.
-Both?
434
00:17:16,818 --> 00:17:19,473
-Yep. 32nd Degree
and Knight Templar.
-Oh, wow.
435
00:17:19,516 --> 00:17:22,084
And currently I reside in the...
436
00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:25,218
to my knowledge, the only
rectified Scottish Rite lodge
437
00:17:25,261 --> 00:17:28,264
-in the United States.
-No kidding.
438
00:17:28,308 --> 00:17:31,006
NARRATOR:
With connections
that stretch all the way back
439
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to the Knights Templar,
440
00:17:33,008 --> 00:17:36,011
the fraternal order
known as Freemasonry
441
00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:39,623
expanded across Europe
and America in the 1700s
442
00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:43,062
and continues to thrive
to this day.
443
00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:47,153
Originally formed as a secret
society of master builders,
444
00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:50,069
it has, over time, expanded
445
00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:51,635
into a large membership
446
00:17:51,679 --> 00:17:54,943
with strong ties
to civic leadership.
447
00:17:54,986 --> 00:17:58,947
An estimated 14 of America's
45 presidents, for example,
448
00:17:58,990 --> 00:18:00,862
were members.
449
00:18:00,905 --> 00:18:05,127
Known for their elaborate rules and mysterious rituals,
450
00:18:05,171 --> 00:18:07,347
Freemasons are also noted
451
00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:10,263
for their use of various
numeric codes and symbols,
452
00:18:10,306 --> 00:18:12,134
like the all-seeing eye...
453
00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:13,962
the pyramid...
454
00:18:14,005 --> 00:18:16,138
the letter "G,"
which represents
455
00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:18,619
the "Great Architect"
of the universe,
456
00:18:18,662 --> 00:18:22,318
and the number 33,
just to name a few.
457
00:18:22,362 --> 00:18:25,278
Based on his research,
it is Kevin Dykstra's belief
458
00:18:25,321 --> 00:18:28,150
that several
of the men connected
459
00:18:28,194 --> 00:18:30,935
with the transportation
of gold and silver,
460
00:18:30,979 --> 00:18:33,677
taken from Jefferson Davis
at the time of his arrest,
461
00:18:33,721 --> 00:18:37,855
from Irwinville, Georgia,
to Muskegon, Michigan,
462
00:18:37,899 --> 00:18:40,771
had strong ties to Freemasonry,
463
00:18:40,815 --> 00:18:43,731
including Lieutenant Colonel
Benjamin Pritchard,
464
00:18:43,774 --> 00:18:46,299
Colonel Robert H.G. Minty
465
00:18:46,342 --> 00:18:50,912
and lumber tycoon-
turned-banker Charles Hackley.
466
00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:53,393
Chad, obviously you've got
a lot of knowledge,
467
00:18:53,436 --> 00:18:55,525
and, you know,
being a high-degree Mason,
468
00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:58,137
you have a lot
of secret knowledge, so...
469
00:18:58,180 --> 00:18:59,834
what made you decide
to come here today
470
00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:02,532
-and share some of this with us?
-AL: Or are you here to push us
471
00:19:02,576 --> 00:19:04,186
offthe right track?
472
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:05,666
[laughter]
473
00:19:05,709 --> 00:19:07,755
CHAD:
Well, as a Muskegon native
474
00:19:07,798 --> 00:19:10,279
growing up
hearing these stories,
475
00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:13,152
I think it's safe to say that
I am just as curious as you are.
476
00:19:13,195 --> 00:19:17,765
And also wanted to lend
my Masonic experience
477
00:19:17,808 --> 00:19:21,986
to help and maybe to set
the record straight on things.
478
00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:25,512
So, can we... can we
kind of zero in on the project
479
00:19:25,555 --> 00:19:28,297
that we're working on,
the Civil War?
480
00:19:28,341 --> 00:19:31,866
One thing that I had heard
is that Charles Hackley
481
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:33,520
and the idea
of the Confederate gold
482
00:19:33,563 --> 00:19:35,565
was not speculation.
483
00:19:35,609 --> 00:19:36,784
Many people talked about it.
484
00:19:38,481 --> 00:19:39,830
You heard that?
485
00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:43,399
Yes. His wealth
was always talked about.
486
00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,358
How much he was worth.
487
00:19:45,401 --> 00:19:48,665
How much the gift that he left
to Muskegon had been worth.
488
00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:51,625
I mean, he was
the biggest man in town.
489
00:19:53,975 --> 00:19:57,544
NARRATOR:
By the end of the Civil War
in 1865,
490
00:19:57,587 --> 00:19:59,459
Charles Hackley was already
491
00:19:59,502 --> 00:20:02,766
a very successful
Muskegon-based businessman.
492
00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:07,206
But in 1870-- five years after
the end of the Civil War--
493
00:20:07,249 --> 00:20:09,686
his wealth grew exponentially.
494
00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:12,472
According
to Kevin Dykstra's research,
495
00:20:12,515 --> 00:20:14,561
Hackley's personal earnings
during his lifetime
496
00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:18,086
were estimated at $3 million.
497
00:20:18,129 --> 00:20:22,177
But at the time of his death,
he donated some $12 million
498
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,614
to the city of Muskegon
for the establishment
499
00:20:24,658 --> 00:20:27,965
of numerous institutions
including businesses,
500
00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:29,532
a high school,
501
00:20:29,576 --> 00:20:32,361
a hospital and more.
502
00:20:32,405 --> 00:20:35,321
Could Hackley's massive wealth
be due to his involvement
503
00:20:35,364 --> 00:20:37,236
with the plot to steal
504
00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,718
and then launder
a fortune in Confederate gold?
505
00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:44,765
It's interesting to consider why
506
00:20:44,808 --> 00:20:46,245
Hackley was building
those things.
507
00:20:46,288 --> 00:20:47,985
Why do you think he did?
508
00:20:48,029 --> 00:20:49,857
At the time,
509
00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:53,861
New England
was the end-all, be-all
510
00:20:53,904 --> 00:20:57,299
of financial power and political
power in the United States.
511
00:20:57,343 --> 00:21:00,563
And then you have a man
like Charles Hackley,
512
00:21:00,607 --> 00:21:02,913
who's shrewd, ambitious,
who says
513
00:21:02,957 --> 00:21:05,699
that he wanted to take
the power from New York.
514
00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:08,354
Entire shiploads of people
515
00:21:08,397 --> 00:21:10,269
are being offloaded
516
00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:11,444
into the country there.
517
00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:13,750
So the population explodes.
518
00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:15,317
As a result,
519
00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:18,189
so does the number
of representatives in Congress.
520
00:21:18,233 --> 00:21:20,757
Suddenly,
New England has power.
521
00:21:20,801 --> 00:21:24,195
Suddenly, New England has
the power to do as it wishes.
522
00:21:24,239 --> 00:21:27,068
One of the things
that Hackley was doing,
523
00:21:27,111 --> 00:21:29,940
they were actually sending teams
out to New York
524
00:21:29,984 --> 00:21:33,553
to recruit these immigrants
as they got off the boat.
525
00:21:33,596 --> 00:21:35,903
"Would you like a job?
'Cause I can get you on a train
526
00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:38,471
to Michigan.
Your whole family."
527
00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:41,125
KEVIN:
Listening to Chad tell me
all this stuff,
528
00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:44,346
it really instilled in me
that Charles Hackley had a plan.
529
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:48,394
He was gonna build a city
that rivaled New York or Boston.
530
00:21:48,437 --> 00:21:51,310
And to do that,
you needed a lot of money.
531
00:21:51,353 --> 00:21:53,529
And I think
Charles Hackley had it.
532
00:21:53,573 --> 00:21:55,226
Growing up,
I heard people like
533
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:57,228
my great-uncle
and my grandfather
534
00:21:57,272 --> 00:21:58,795
talking about the Rebel Reward.
535
00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:01,624
It's not the rebel treasure.
536
00:22:01,668 --> 00:22:03,583
It's not the Confederate gold.
537
00:22:03,626 --> 00:22:06,150
It's a reward.
A reward for what?
538
00:22:06,194 --> 00:22:07,674
-What was the reward for?
-For the capture
539
00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:09,197
of Jefferson Davis.
540
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,199
No, it was never reported.
541
00:22:11,242 --> 00:22:12,461
It wasn't given by Lincoln.
542
00:22:12,505 --> 00:22:13,723
They got a hearty handshake
543
00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:15,246
and a "thank you very much."
544
00:22:15,290 --> 00:22:17,553
-Barely.
-What do you think?
545
00:22:17,597 --> 00:22:20,034
A reward for helping get
the rest of the money out.
546
00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:23,864
Hackley saw an opportunity.
547
00:22:23,907 --> 00:22:26,257
Think about it in terms
of this: there's no guards.
548
00:22:26,301 --> 00:22:28,782
He's captured
at this remote farm,
549
00:22:28,825 --> 00:22:30,523
with nothing and no one around,
550
00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:32,307
with a field
in the middle of the woods.
551
00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:34,309
Nobody took the gold.
552
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:35,832
Nobody stole the gold.
553
00:22:35,876 --> 00:22:37,138
They received it.
554
00:22:37,181 --> 00:22:40,184
That the 4th Michigan Cavalry
555
00:22:40,228 --> 00:22:41,664
took possession of that gold
556
00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:43,579
and brought it back here.
557
00:22:43,623 --> 00:22:45,973
That was an exchange
that was preplanned.
558
00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:47,496
It was a thank-you.
559
00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:50,064
It was a payment
for services rendered.
560
00:22:51,935 --> 00:22:54,242
NARRATOR:
A payment
for services rendered?
561
00:22:54,285 --> 00:22:57,941
But, if so, who was authorizing the payment?
562
00:22:57,985 --> 00:23:01,684
Was it Charles Hackley
or someone else?
563
00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:04,513
Possibly someone much higher up
564
00:23:04,557 --> 00:23:06,515
and with the authority
to engineer
565
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:10,214
a top secret plot
of national proportions.
566
00:23:10,258 --> 00:23:13,261
So, do you believe yourself
567
00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:15,742
that Charles Hackley used
that Confederate gold
568
00:23:15,785 --> 00:23:17,787
to-to help build Muskegon?
569
00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:20,442
I believe
that that is very possible.
570
00:23:20,486 --> 00:23:22,618
The extent of Hackley's wealth
571
00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:24,664
during these years
was hard to determine.
572
00:23:24,707 --> 00:23:26,492
KEVIN:
It's so interesting to see that
573
00:23:26,535 --> 00:23:29,364
we-we look at all
of these structures
574
00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:32,280
that Hackley built,
that he paid for.
575
00:23:32,323 --> 00:23:34,151
He had far-reaching plans.
576
00:23:34,195 --> 00:23:38,286
I mean, if he's sending people
to New York
577
00:23:38,329 --> 00:23:41,463
to grab people
and send them back home,
578
00:23:41,507 --> 00:23:43,160
the structures are one thing.
579
00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:45,467
The infrastructure
took more work.
580
00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:47,034
BRAD:
Speaking of infrastructure,
581
00:23:47,077 --> 00:23:48,688
Chad, have you heard
of any secret passageways
582
00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:50,733
or tunnels in Muskegon?
583
00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:53,606
My father used to work
584
00:23:53,649 --> 00:23:56,913
back when the Red Cross
would do blood collections.
585
00:23:56,957 --> 00:23:59,046
BRAD:
Right. Yeah.
586
00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:01,701
And part of his job was taking
the blood that was collected
587
00:24:01,744 --> 00:24:03,920
to the cold storage.
588
00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:05,661
In the winter, he said--
589
00:24:05,705 --> 00:24:07,271
he always said
that he used a tunnel.
590
00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:10,579
NARRATOR:
A tunnel?
591
00:24:10,623 --> 00:24:14,235
During the past two years,
Kevin and his team
592
00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:15,758
have been searching
for the means
593
00:24:15,802 --> 00:24:17,412
by which Charles Hackley
594
00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:20,284
was able
to secretly transport gold,
595
00:24:20,328 --> 00:24:23,113
first,
from Irwinville, Georgia,
596
00:24:23,157 --> 00:24:26,465
and then to various locations
and banks in Muskegon,
597
00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:29,990
before shipping it out of town
by ferryboat.
598
00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:33,950
So far, Kevin has successfully
established the existence
599
00:24:33,994 --> 00:24:37,519
of underground tunnels beneath
one of Hackley's former banks
600
00:24:37,563 --> 00:24:41,349
and even one connecting
Hackley's 19th century mansion
601
00:24:41,392 --> 00:24:45,353
to the nearby home of one
of his closest associates.
602
00:24:45,396 --> 00:24:47,877
-KEVIN: Look at that.
-BRAD: Look at that. Nice!
603
00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,923
Could an even larger network
604
00:24:49,966 --> 00:24:53,535
of secret tunnels also exist
throughout Muskegon?
605
00:24:53,579 --> 00:24:55,755
BRAD:
In Muskegon,
606
00:24:55,798 --> 00:24:57,321
where Hackley built the school,
607
00:24:57,365 --> 00:24:58,975
the superintendent approached me
recently and said
608
00:24:59,019 --> 00:25:01,456
his mother told him
when he was a boy
609
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,458
there was "a catacomb"
of tunnels in this town.
610
00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:05,504
Really?
611
00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:07,288
You think these tunnels
were built at the same time
612
00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:09,986
-that high school was built?
-BRAD: We do. The tunnels are
613
00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,902
from the time of
the construction of the school.
614
00:25:12,946 --> 00:25:15,122
KEVIN:
I think the main purpose
of the tunnels
615
00:25:15,165 --> 00:25:17,777
were to move
that gold around undetected.
616
00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:18,952
We got to check that out.
617
00:25:18,995 --> 00:25:20,475
Yeah.
618
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,172
You know, it feels like
619
00:25:22,216 --> 00:25:23,870
the deeper we dig into this,
620
00:25:23,913 --> 00:25:26,568
the more that we start
pulling back
621
00:25:26,612 --> 00:25:28,091
these layers, it seems
622
00:25:28,135 --> 00:25:31,268
to feel that there's a lot more,
623
00:25:31,312 --> 00:25:33,053
because you don't know
how much is there.
624
00:25:33,096 --> 00:25:35,272
You have answered
a lot of questions,
625
00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:36,883
but you've-you've raised
626
00:25:36,926 --> 00:25:39,276
-some questions as well.
-I think I've created a few.
627
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,539
[birds chirping]
628
00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:47,546
In Muskegon, Michigan...BRAD:
Look at this, you guys.OR:
629
00:25:47,589 --> 00:25:49,591
JEFF: We got to go to the front of the school. Yeah.
630
00:25:49,635 --> 00:25:51,158
Oh, okay.
So, you're just gonna go up here
631
00:25:51,201 --> 00:25:52,594
to the stop sign and turn right.
632
00:25:52,638 --> 00:25:53,943
NARRATOR:
...researchers Brad Richards
633
00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:56,293
and Jeff Zehr are driving
634
00:25:56,337 --> 00:25:58,034
-to Muskegon High School.
-Here's the football field.
635
00:25:58,078 --> 00:25:59,427
-Is that where we're going?
-Yep. Yep. That's where
636
00:25:59,470 --> 00:26:01,298
-we're going.
-They are hoping to find out
637
00:26:01,342 --> 00:26:03,300
more information
about a reported network
638
00:26:03,344 --> 00:26:05,041
of underground tunnels
639
00:26:05,085 --> 00:26:07,870
linking the high school
to a number of other buildings
640
00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:09,829
built by
lumber tycoon-turned-banker
641
00:26:09,872 --> 00:26:11,700
Charles Hackley,
642
00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:15,269
tunnels which Kevin
and his team believe
643
00:26:15,312 --> 00:26:18,620
may have been instrumental
in a plot to secretly launder
644
00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:23,843
and then transport millions
in stolen Confederate gold.
645
00:26:23,886 --> 00:26:26,454
JEFF:
Be as that this is
your neck of the woods,
646
00:26:26,497 --> 00:26:28,761
tell me more about the school.
647
00:26:28,804 --> 00:26:30,763
Hackley created the Hackley
Manual Training School,
648
00:26:30,806 --> 00:26:33,156
Muskegon High School, so...
649
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,463
-Really did a lot for the town.
-He did, he did.
650
00:26:35,506 --> 00:26:37,421
Now, where did the wealth
come from? You know, that's what
651
00:26:37,465 --> 00:26:38,988
-we're researching.
-Right, right.
652
00:26:39,032 --> 00:26:42,078
NARRATOR:
In the early 1890s,
653
00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:46,605
Charles Hackley began donating
an estimated $200,000--
654
00:26:46,648 --> 00:26:49,520
worth almost $6 million today--
655
00:26:49,564 --> 00:26:51,392
in order to finance
the construction
656
00:26:51,435 --> 00:26:54,264
of numerous institutions
bearing his name,
657
00:26:54,308 --> 00:26:57,572
including a hospital,
a middle school,
658
00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:01,620
a high school, and also
a manual training school,
659
00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:05,536
a training school
that also included a foundry
660
00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:07,800
where metals
could be melted down
661
00:27:07,843 --> 00:27:12,152
for the purposes of recasting
them into different forms.
662
00:27:12,195 --> 00:27:14,633
According
to Kevin Dykstra's research,
663
00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:18,114
six wagonloads
of Confederate gold and silver
664
00:27:18,158 --> 00:27:21,378
were smuggled from Georgia
to Charles Hackley in Muskegon
665
00:27:21,422 --> 00:27:23,859
in 1870.
666
00:27:23,903 --> 00:27:26,775
However, since the coins
and gold bars
667
00:27:26,819 --> 00:27:30,126
would likely have been stamped
with the initials C.S.A.,
668
00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:32,259
for the Confederate States
of America,
669
00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:34,435
they would need
to be disguised.
670
00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:36,785
Could it be
that Charles Hackley
671
00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:39,266
constructed
his manual training school
672
00:27:39,309 --> 00:27:41,964
in order to melt
the stolen gold
673
00:27:42,008 --> 00:27:44,445
and then transported it
to other locations
674
00:27:44,488 --> 00:27:48,014
through a network
of secret underground tunnels?
675
00:27:49,798 --> 00:27:51,104
So, this is the old high school.
676
00:27:51,147 --> 00:27:53,019
-JEFF: Right here?
-1893.
677
00:27:53,062 --> 00:27:54,324
And then the Hackley
Manual Training Center,
678
00:27:54,368 --> 00:27:56,631
the first of its kind
in the nation,
679
00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:59,242
was built over here in 1897.
680
00:27:59,286 --> 00:28:02,071
-Hey, Justin.
-Justin Jennings
681
00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:04,726
is the superintendent
of Muskegon Public Schools.
682
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:06,728
Thanks so much for meeting us.
683
00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:08,948
He recently contacted Brad
when he became aware
684
00:28:08,991 --> 00:28:11,472
of Kevin Dykstra's theories
involving
685
00:28:11,515 --> 00:28:13,126
-Charles Hackley.
-So this is the, uh,
686
00:28:13,169 --> 00:28:15,302
-memorial here, huh?
-This is the memorial.
687
00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:17,652
-JEFF: Wow.
-JUSTIN: Kind of the center
of everything here.
688
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:19,393
-JEFF: Huh.
-JUSTIN: Everything here
is just Hackley.
689
00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:21,787
The school, the gym,
everything over here.
690
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:25,181
-The Hackley Manual
Training School.
-JUSTIN: Everything.
691
00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:26,835
He put a lot of money
into the city, so...
692
00:28:26,879 --> 00:28:28,663
So, it seems like,
in the research,
693
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:30,404
when he built one building,
he always built
694
00:28:30,447 --> 00:28:32,841
-another building.
-Yeah. He only built things
in tandems.
695
00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:34,103
-That's what it seems like.
-Built things in tandems.
696
00:28:34,147 --> 00:28:35,626
-Right.
-And there might
have been tunnels
697
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:37,890
-between those two buildings.
-That's the rumor.
698
00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:39,413
We've tried to find, you know,
699
00:28:39,456 --> 00:28:41,763
maps for the tunnels,
but we can't find anything.
700
00:28:41,807 --> 00:28:43,896
-So, today, we'll-we'll get
a chance to check 'em out.
-Awesome.
701
00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:45,680
-Yeah.
-JEFF: Well,
we found lots of evidence
702
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,595
of tunnels elsewhere already,
703
00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:49,902
-but we haven't had anything
we could walk through yet.
-Okay.
704
00:28:49,945 --> 00:28:51,773
-This would be the first time.
-Yeah. So if you could show us
a tunnel we could
705
00:28:51,817 --> 00:28:54,297
-actually walk into,
that'd be awesome.
-Absolutely. Absolutely.
706
00:28:54,341 --> 00:28:55,864
-The tunnels are this way.
-All right.
707
00:28:55,908 --> 00:28:57,257
-All right. Let's go.
-Let's go.
708
00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:59,041
[chuckles]
709
00:28:59,085 --> 00:29:02,349
So, this is part of the old
Hackley Manual Training School?
710
00:29:02,392 --> 00:29:04,394
-This is. This is
the old weld shop. Yeah.
-Okay.
711
00:29:04,438 --> 00:29:08,355
-[creaking]
-JEFF: Let's see it.
712
00:29:08,398 --> 00:29:10,705
BRAD:
So, these are
kind of modern steps right here.
713
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,620
JUSTIN:
Yeah, yeah.
From the weld shop, so...
714
00:29:12,663 --> 00:29:15,449
BRAD:
Okay. And as we get back farther
715
00:29:15,492 --> 00:29:17,494
into the recesses, we're gonna
see some older stuff?
716
00:29:17,538 --> 00:29:19,409
JUSTIN:
Yeah. It's gonna be hot.
717
00:29:19,453 --> 00:29:21,977
-BRAD: Hot?
-Yeah.
718
00:29:23,849 --> 00:29:25,589
[Jeff chuckles]
719
00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,417
-BRAD: Oh, my goodness.
-JEFF: Well, yeah.
720
00:29:27,461 --> 00:29:29,245
JEFF:
Is this what you're
talking about?
721
00:29:29,289 --> 00:29:30,769
Or were you...
722
00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:33,249
-This is really old.
-Whoa!
723
00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:35,686
Look at this.
724
00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:37,863
This is the kind of architecture
you'd expect to see
725
00:29:37,906 --> 00:29:39,778
-in the-- in the 1800s.
-JUSTIN: Right.
726
00:29:42,128 --> 00:29:45,087
It's arched. It's, um--
There's not concrete.
727
00:29:45,131 --> 00:29:47,133
-That's brick. Old brick.
-Really old brick, too.
728
00:29:47,176 --> 00:29:49,657
-Mm-hmm. It's crumbling.
-We should get some pictures
of this.
729
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:51,877
-Oh, yeah.
-[camera clicks]
730
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,271
-That's a really cool picture.
-Let's check to see
731
00:29:55,315 --> 00:29:56,664
-how far this goes.
-Yeah. Let's check it out.
732
00:29:56,707 --> 00:29:57,883
-Oh, okay. All right.
-Yeah.
733
00:30:00,407 --> 00:30:02,365
BRAD:
Look at this, you guys.
734
00:30:02,409 --> 00:30:04,541
You can kind of see
where the foundation
735
00:30:04,585 --> 00:30:05,934
-is crumbled.
-Wow!
736
00:30:05,978 --> 00:30:07,631
Yeah.
737
00:30:07,675 --> 00:30:09,503
These mechanicals here,
738
00:30:09,546 --> 00:30:11,157
-these are new.
-JUSTIN: Yeah, these are new.
739
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,636
BRAD:
This was not originally
a utility tunnel,
740
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,596
-it doesn't look like.
-No, not originally.
741
00:30:15,639 --> 00:30:19,948
NARRATOR:
Because these tunnels were
constructed in the late 1800s
742
00:30:19,992 --> 00:30:21,907
and weren't used
to run utility cables
743
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:23,865
until several years later,
744
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:27,303
why were they constructed
in the first place?
745
00:30:27,347 --> 00:30:30,916
What purpose would they
have been designed to serve?
746
00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:34,223
Was it to secretly transport
millions of dollars' worth
747
00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:36,138
of stolen Civil War gold,
748
00:30:36,182 --> 00:30:39,750
as Kevin Dykstra
and his team suspect?
749
00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:43,754
BRAD:
This was a lot of effort,
and it was not originally
750
00:30:43,798 --> 00:30:45,931
-a utility tunnel.
-Yeah. Yup.
751
00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:48,672
Yeah, I wonder
if there was ever, like, a set
752
00:30:48,716 --> 00:30:50,500
of rail tracks down here
or anything
753
00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:52,763
that they could've pushed a cart
on or anything like that.
754
00:30:52,807 --> 00:30:55,027
Um, just keep our eyes open,
but this is an old tunnel.
755
00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:56,637
Right.
756
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,769
-BRAD: So, why the expense?
-We don't know.
757
00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:03,818
BRAD: These tunnels aren't big enough to do much in,
758
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:06,473
but they're big enough
to cart gold or to hide
759
00:31:06,516 --> 00:31:09,302
from sight and to sneak around
a city between buildings.
760
00:31:09,345 --> 00:31:10,694
JEFF:
Do you think
we're heading south now?
761
00:31:10,738 --> 00:31:12,087
JUSTIN:
We're heading south, yes.
762
00:31:12,131 --> 00:31:13,610
-JEFF: Okay.
-BRAD: We've gone a long ways.
763
00:31:13,654 --> 00:31:16,352
JUSTIN:
Yeah, we're still
under the street, so...
764
00:31:16,396 --> 00:31:18,311
BRAD:
They said one of these tunnels
765
00:31:18,354 --> 00:31:19,921
went all the way
to Hackley Hospital?
766
00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:21,314
I think from his house.
767
00:31:21,357 --> 00:31:24,012
-Man!
-Holy cow!
768
00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:26,580
NARRATOR:
Charles Hackley's house?
769
00:31:26,623 --> 00:31:29,191
Located nearly one mile away?
770
00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:32,934
Could Jeff and Brad
have just discovered the link
771
00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:36,329
between the tunnel they located under Charles Hackley's house
772
00:31:36,372 --> 00:31:39,941
three weeks ago and a network of tunnels connecting Hackley's
773
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:43,510
other buildings
in downtown Muskegon?
774
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:47,775
JUSTIN:
Really tight around here.
775
00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:49,864
BRAD:
Oh, wow. Look at this!
776
00:31:53,041 --> 00:31:54,347
Justin. Okay, look at the size
of these walls.
777
00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:57,916
JEFF:
That's crazy.
778
00:31:57,959 --> 00:32:00,092
This definitely was built
during the Charles Hackley era.
779
00:32:00,135 --> 00:32:01,528
This wall right here.
780
00:32:01,571 --> 00:32:02,964
They look like
they tried to patch it up.
781
00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:04,748
-Yeah.
-But th-this is old right here.
782
00:32:04,792 --> 00:32:07,751
BRAD:
What's going
through my mind is,
783
00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:09,536
what secrets
did these guys have?
784
00:32:09,579 --> 00:32:11,625
I'd love
to get behind that wall,
785
00:32:11,668 --> 00:32:13,844
investigate this place further.
786
00:32:13,888 --> 00:32:16,282
-So, how far does that go?
-It goes all the way over
787
00:32:16,325 --> 00:32:18,066
-to the school.
-BRAD: Can we go?
788
00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:19,981
-Yup.
-All right.
789
00:32:22,114 --> 00:32:23,985
This is crazy.
We're underneath the street.
790
00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:25,813
We're underneath the street
of the city right now.
791
00:32:25,856 --> 00:32:27,162
JUSTIN:
Yup, underneath the street.
792
00:32:27,206 --> 00:32:28,642
BRAD:
That's crazy.
793
00:32:28,685 --> 00:32:30,165
Charles Hackley--
794
00:32:30,209 --> 00:32:31,993
he put those tunnels in
for a reason.
795
00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:34,082
JUSTIN:
Yeah, we're in the steam room.
796
00:32:34,126 --> 00:32:36,171
BRAD:
And we need to get
to the bottom of this.
797
00:32:36,215 --> 00:32:39,044
JUSTIN:
I think this is the end, so...
798
00:32:39,087 --> 00:32:41,437
BRAD:
Okay. So, we left the street
799
00:32:41,481 --> 00:32:43,352
and kind of ducked back
into the high school.
800
00:32:43,396 --> 00:32:45,180
-Right. We're underneath
the high school now.
-Okay.
801
00:32:45,224 --> 00:32:47,052
That was quite a trip, man.
802
00:32:47,095 --> 00:32:48,967
-Can't thank you enough, man.
-Thanks for coming.
803
00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:49,750
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
-Great time.
-Yeah.
804
00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:57,236
NARRATOR:
The following day...
805
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:58,802
-KEVIN: Hey, guys.
-ALL: Hey!
806
00:32:58,846 --> 00:33:00,456
NARRATOR:
...Kevin Dykstra and his team
807
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,198
gather at his workshop
808
00:33:03,242 --> 00:33:05,505
for a video conference
with Marty Lagina's son Alex.
809
00:33:05,548 --> 00:33:07,289
-Well, let's hope he's here.
-[laptop chiming]
810
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:11,728
-Hey, guys.
-ALL: Hey, Alex.
811
00:33:11,772 --> 00:33:13,165
Good to hear from you.
812
00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:14,644
Yeah, we've been...
we've been busy.
813
00:33:14,688 --> 00:33:17,473
Did you get those photos
that I sent?
814
00:33:17,517 --> 00:33:19,214
Um, yeah.
The ones of the tunnel?
815
00:33:19,258 --> 00:33:21,260
Yeah. Jeff and Brad are here.
816
00:33:21,303 --> 00:33:23,479
They were actually
in that tunnel.
817
00:33:23,523 --> 00:33:24,959
Tell Alex about those tunnels.
818
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,656
Well, Alex, uh,
819
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,529
Jeff and I got into some really,
really old tunnels
820
00:33:29,572 --> 00:33:33,054
under the school
that Charles Hackley built,
821
00:33:33,098 --> 00:33:34,969
and the tunnel, one of 'em,
822
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,667
headed towards Hackley's house.
823
00:33:37,711 --> 00:33:39,365
Do you... do you know, I mean,
824
00:33:39,408 --> 00:33:41,149
what-what was the purpose
of these?
825
00:33:41,193 --> 00:33:43,891
You know, why do you think
they're there?
826
00:33:43,934 --> 00:33:46,459
Well, right at the moment,
they're-they've repurposed them
827
00:33:46,502 --> 00:33:48,983
with conduit
and things for the school,
828
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:52,552
but you can see that it's
the old, original tunnel that
829
00:33:52,595 --> 00:33:55,076
were used back
in Hackley's time, um,
830
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,035
well, very likely
to move gold around,
831
00:33:57,078 --> 00:34:00,995
to move themselves around when
they didn't want to get seen.
832
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,301
I can tell you that
putting tunnels underground
833
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,172
is not an easy thing to do.
834
00:34:04,216 --> 00:34:07,132
And I think that is a significant amount of effort.
835
00:34:07,175 --> 00:34:10,439
Um, and I'm having trouble
thinking of reasons
836
00:34:10,483 --> 00:34:11,962
that you would need
such a long tunnel
837
00:34:12,006 --> 00:34:13,268
if you weren't trying
to do something
838
00:34:13,312 --> 00:34:15,140
out of the public eye,
839
00:34:15,183 --> 00:34:17,142
or-or something like what
you're talking about.
840
00:34:17,185 --> 00:34:19,187
What Brad and Jeff did--
841
00:34:19,231 --> 00:34:21,059
these tunnels--
man, that's huge.
842
00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:23,191
AL:
It's a home run.
843
00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:24,758
Well, guys, that's...
that's really great work.
844
00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:26,238
And great job
finding those tunnels, and,
845
00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:28,066
Kevin, what-what is the plan
846
00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:30,329
as far as Lake Michigan goes?
847
00:34:30,372 --> 00:34:32,853
Well, we're gonna be watching
the weather very closely.
848
00:34:32,896 --> 00:34:34,594
As soon as we get an opening
849
00:34:34,637 --> 00:34:37,336
in the weather, and hopefully,
when we get that permit,
850
00:34:37,379 --> 00:34:39,294
it'll mesh together,
851
00:34:39,338 --> 00:34:41,862
and we'll get back to work
on the lake.
852
00:34:41,905 --> 00:34:43,472
So, I guess that puts us
in a little bit
853
00:34:43,516 --> 00:34:44,691
of a holding pattern, though,
doesn't it?
854
00:34:44,734 --> 00:34:46,519
-Mm-hmm.
-Yeah, just a bit.
855
00:34:46,562 --> 00:34:49,174
Well, I have some good news
on that front, actually.
856
00:34:49,217 --> 00:34:53,265
I've come across an author and
a reporter in Washington, D.C.
857
00:34:53,308 --> 00:34:55,005
by the name of Warren Getler.
858
00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:58,096
He is a Civil War expert,
859
00:34:58,139 --> 00:35:00,881
and he's actually
got some information that,
860
00:35:00,924 --> 00:35:02,926
you know,
might blow your theory up
861
00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:05,755
a little bit bigger
than you had expected.
862
00:35:05,799 --> 00:35:08,236
Uh, he thinks he might be able
to connect your theory
863
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,240
to Abraham Lincoln's Secretary
of War, Edwin Stanton.
864
00:35:12,284 --> 00:35:14,199
Oh, wow.
865
00:35:14,242 --> 00:35:17,158
NARRATOR: Secretary of War Edwin Stanton?
866
00:35:17,202 --> 00:35:19,900
The man who served
in Abraham Lincoln's cabinet
867
00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:22,207
during the time
of his assassination?
868
00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:25,558
According to official
Civil War records,
869
00:35:25,601 --> 00:35:29,997
the orders that members of the
4th Michigan Cavalry received,
870
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,695
which directed them
to capture Jefferson Davis,
871
00:35:32,739 --> 00:35:35,829
originated in Washington, D.C.,
872
00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:38,962
and from the office
of Edwin Stanton.
873
00:35:39,006 --> 00:35:42,314
Could Alex Lagina have
turned up a possible link
874
00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:46,100
between Stanton and the plot
to steal millions of dollars
875
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:49,103
worth of Confederate gold
and silver?
876
00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:51,975
If you guys want to meet me
out in Washington, D.C.,
877
00:35:52,019 --> 00:35:54,239
sit down with Warren
and kind of pick his brain
878
00:35:54,282 --> 00:35:55,805
-a little bit...
-AL: Oh, wow.
879
00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:57,111
I think while
we can't do anything else,
880
00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:58,286
that'd be a great use of time.
881
00:35:58,330 --> 00:36:00,462
Well, Alex, that sounds great.
882
00:36:00,506 --> 00:36:02,421
Well, as-as awesome
as that sounds,
883
00:36:02,464 --> 00:36:04,988
I got a lead on something
potentially pretty big, too,
884
00:36:05,032 --> 00:36:06,860
I wonder
if I shouldn't follow up on.
885
00:36:06,903 --> 00:36:09,341
-What is it?
-There's a house right next
886
00:36:09,384 --> 00:36:11,169
to the Hackley-Hume compound
887
00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:13,388
that I'm told has
some very interesting things
888
00:36:13,432 --> 00:36:16,043
in-in its basement.
Could follow up on that.
889
00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:17,653
KEVIN:
You know what? Let's-let's,
890
00:36:17,697 --> 00:36:19,264
um, split up and-and conquer.
891
00:36:19,307 --> 00:36:21,440
I think... I think Brad and Al,
892
00:36:21,483 --> 00:36:23,964
why don't you guys head
to Washington
893
00:36:24,007 --> 00:36:26,271
with me, we'll meet Alex.
Can Jeff...?
894
00:36:26,314 --> 00:36:28,838
-Yeah.
-Can you and Fred
go investigate that? That way,
895
00:36:28,882 --> 00:36:31,058
we can get things done
on two different fronts.
896
00:36:31,101 --> 00:36:34,627
Well, that sounds great, guys.
I will see you in D.C.
897
00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:36,411
And Jeff, Fred, I can't wait to hear what you guys find out.
898
00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:37,847
-Great.
-We'll let you know.
899
00:36:37,891 --> 00:36:39,327
KEVIN:
Excellent. Well, safe travels.
900
00:36:39,371 --> 00:36:42,200
-We'll meet you in D.C. -All right. We'll see you soon.
901
00:36:42,243 --> 00:36:43,331
KEVIN:
That sounds like a great plan.
902
00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:44,376
Let's, uh... let's get packing.
903
00:36:49,294 --> 00:36:51,209
nference
904
00:36:51,252 --> 00:36:53,123
in Muskegon, Michigan...
905
00:36:53,167 --> 00:36:54,777
BRAD:
And there's
the Lincoln Monument.
906
00:36:54,821 --> 00:36:56,388
-We're not in Michigan
anymore, boys.
-Oh, wow.
907
00:36:56,431 --> 00:36:58,520
...Kevin Dykstra,
along with his brother Al,
908
00:36:58,564 --> 00:37:02,220
history teacher Brad Richards
909
00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:04,570
and Alex Lagina have gathered
in Washington, D.C.
910
00:37:04,613 --> 00:37:08,878
for what promises
to be an important meeting.
911
00:37:08,922 --> 00:37:10,445
What I think is amazing
is the search
912
00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:12,273
that we've taken so far.
I mean, look at.
913
00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:14,536
Now we're in Washington
searching more stuff out.
914
00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:16,059
Oh, this is pretty exciting
to, uh,
915
00:37:16,103 --> 00:37:17,757
have a chance
to meet with Warren Getler.
916
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,976
Uh, I've talked with him
a little bit, and
917
00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:21,804
he's got some
really interesting information.
918
00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:23,110
All right, boys. Here we are--
919
00:37:23,153 --> 00:37:25,112
Warren Getler's office.
920
00:37:25,155 --> 00:37:26,418
ALEX:
Well done. Thanks for driving.
921
00:37:26,461 --> 00:37:27,462
-AL: Excellent.
-KEVIN: Excellent.
922
00:37:32,772 --> 00:37:36,123
NARRATOR:
Warren Getler is an author
and investigative journalist
923
00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:39,300
who has spent more than two decades researching and writing
924
00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:41,650
about the Civil War
and the period that followed.
925
00:37:41,694 --> 00:37:43,130
-Come on in, guys.
-All right.
926
00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:44,784
NARRATOR:
In 2003,
927
00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:47,961
he coauthored a book entitled,
Rebel Gold,
928
00:37:48,004 --> 00:37:50,093
which documents evidence
929
00:37:50,137 --> 00:37:52,966
that numerous Confederate
treasures remain buried
930
00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:55,490
across the United States today.
931
00:37:55,534 --> 00:37:57,405
WARREN:
Great to have you guys.
932
00:37:57,449 --> 00:37:58,928
Grab a seat.
933
00:37:58,972 --> 00:38:00,365
-Wow.
-Wow!
934
00:38:00,408 --> 00:38:02,410
[Warren chuckles]
935
00:38:02,454 --> 00:38:04,412
WARREN:
It's... I'm so glad to see you.
936
00:38:04,456 --> 00:38:06,284
Great fan of what you guys
have been doing. Your research
937
00:38:06,327 --> 00:38:08,242
-is phenomenal.
-You know, the-the research
938
00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,113
has been huge in this project,
939
00:38:10,157 --> 00:38:12,942
but it seems like the more
people hear about the research,
940
00:38:12,986 --> 00:38:14,553
the more people
that reach out to us.
941
00:38:14,596 --> 00:38:16,076
You know, like you and Alex
942
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:17,860
-hooking up and setting this up.
-Mm-hmm.
943
00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:20,733
-What got you into this? What...
-Oh, wow.
944
00:38:20,776 --> 00:38:22,996
-What made you do all this?
-Right, so I was
945
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,651
an investigative journalist
for most of my career, and, um,
946
00:38:25,694 --> 00:38:28,828
I got wrapped up into this story
that involved Stanton
947
00:38:28,871 --> 00:38:30,351
and a lot
of other powerful figures.
948
00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:32,266
History will tell us
949
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:36,357
that this man won the war
with Lincoln for the Union.
950
00:38:36,401 --> 00:38:41,057
This gentleman Stanton is a
very, very mysterious character.
951
00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:43,408
NARRATOR:
Edwin McMasters Stanton
952
00:38:43,451 --> 00:38:45,627
was a lawyer and politician
953
00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:47,586
who had served
as attorney general
954
00:38:47,629 --> 00:38:49,370
under President James Buchanan
955
00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:52,068
prior to the start
of the Civil War.
956
00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:56,334
In 1862, he was appointed
by Abraham Lincoln
957
00:38:56,377 --> 00:38:59,032
to be his secretary of war,
the equivalent
958
00:38:59,075 --> 00:39:02,296
to what is now called
the secretary of defense.
959
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:05,821
As the civilian in charge
of the United States military,
960
00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:08,171
Stanton exercised great power
961
00:39:08,215 --> 00:39:11,392
during a time
of national crisis.
962
00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:15,353
In my research, you had
a very powerful contingent
963
00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:17,398
of five or six major players,
964
00:39:17,442 --> 00:39:19,618
some of whom used to be
in the Confederate cabinet,
965
00:39:19,661 --> 00:39:23,186
who were organizing events
and organizing the financing
966
00:39:23,230 --> 00:39:26,059
of the Lincoln assassination
and others.
967
00:39:26,102 --> 00:39:28,496
-Got it.
-I think
there's a real possibility
968
00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:31,107
that Edwin Stanton was
a major coconspirator.
969
00:39:34,763 --> 00:39:36,243
Are you saying
that Stanton was involved
970
00:39:36,286 --> 00:39:37,723
in the murder
of Abraham Lincoln?
971
00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,942
-Yes.
-Wow.
972
00:39:39,986 --> 00:39:42,249
Whoa.
973
00:39:42,292 --> 00:39:45,426
Could Edwin Stanton
have been connected
974
00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:47,559
to Charles Hackley,
who was a high level Mason?
975
00:39:47,602 --> 00:39:50,823
It's a strong possibility.
Absolutely.
976
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:57,612
NARRATOR:
Has Kevin Dykstra and his team
977
00:39:57,656 --> 00:40:01,834
just made what could be their
most important contact yet--
978
00:40:01,877 --> 00:40:04,445
one that could link the plot
to steal a fortune
979
00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:07,405
in Confederate gold
to the assassination
980
00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:09,755
of America's 16th president?
981
00:40:09,798 --> 00:40:13,933
If so, then perhaps the treasure Kevin is searching for
982
00:40:13,976 --> 00:40:16,283
isn't only a monetary one,
983
00:40:16,326 --> 00:40:18,938
but one of great
historical significance.
984
00:40:18,981 --> 00:40:21,157
One that possibly means
985
00:40:21,201 --> 00:40:23,986
that the conspiracy
Kevin has been investigating
986
00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:26,467
and the treasure
he's looking for
987
00:40:26,511 --> 00:40:28,904
might be considerably larger
988
00:40:28,948 --> 00:40:31,080
and more deadly
989
00:40:31,124 --> 00:40:33,909
than he and his team could ever
990
00:40:33,953 --> 00:40:35,737
-have suspected.
-[gunshot]
991
00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:43,919
NARRATOR:
Next time onThe Curse
of Civil War Gold...
992
00:40:43,963 --> 00:40:45,443
I believe that there are
993
00:40:45,486 --> 00:40:47,053
potentially billions in gold
994
00:40:47,096 --> 00:40:48,141
hidden by the Knights
of the Golden Circle.
995
00:40:48,184 --> 00:40:49,795
And it played out in Muskegon
996
00:40:49,838 --> 00:40:51,013
because of Charles Hackley.
997
00:40:51,057 --> 00:40:53,233
-He fits the profile.
-Wow!
998
00:40:53,276 --> 00:40:55,627
AKRAM ELIAS:
Here you're in
the nation's temple.
999
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:57,498
I've always felt that the Masons
1000
00:40:57,542 --> 00:40:59,892
collaborated about
the missing Confederate gold.
1001
00:40:59,935 --> 00:41:01,546
What gold?
1002
00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:04,331
-Vault number one.
-Oh, my goodness.
1003
00:41:04,374 --> 00:41:06,942
Every history textbook
in America has this wrong.
1004
00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:08,509
Absolutely.
1005
00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:10,511
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