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We have the paid attendance tonight,27,458.
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Right, in the case
of People vs. Juan Ignacio Catalan--
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Is that your true name?
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Yes, ma'am.
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I'm Detective Rodriguez.My partner, Detective Pinner. Okay?
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Hey, what's going on?That's all I want to know.
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We're hoping you're going to talk to us.Is that what you're willing to do?
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You're willing to talk to usabout what's going on?
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What's going on?
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-State your full name for the record, sir.
-It's Juan Rodriguez.
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Juan was in jail,
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charged with the May 12th 2003murder of 16-year-old Martha Puebla.
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The young woman had testifiedin a separate case
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in which Juan's brotherwas a co-defendant.
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Do you solemnly state that the evidence
that you shall present
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shall be the truth, the whole truth
and nothing but the truth,
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-so help you God?
-I do.
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You guys are gonna take away my lifefor this fucking bullshit?
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The bullshit is this. You killed somebody.
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Wait a minute.Those are very strong words right there.
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I did not kill nobody,I would never kill nobody,
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and I'd never do anything to hurt anybody.
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Convince us otherwise.
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Las Vegas.It's a great place to go and have fun!
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We went there to uncover some of the sneaks, cheaters and sore losers,
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and they were all caught on tape.
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Detective Pinner,
what time did the 911 call go out
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with respect to this murder on May 12th?
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22:43, that's 10:43 p.m.
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At the time
that the defendant was arrested,
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did he have any facial hair?
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-Yes.
-And what type of facial hair did he have?
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He had a mustache
and he was slightly unshaven,
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with a small piece of hair
below his bottom lip.
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Male Hispanic, black hair, very short,
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5'7" to 5'11", 19 to 25 years old.
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Stocky build, medium mustache--
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Hair below his lip?I've never had nothing under my lip.
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-What's under there right now?-I haven't shaved!
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Okay, so you didn't shave this day either.
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Why wouldn't I shave my mustache then?
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I don't know.'Cause you think you're cool.
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Because you think there were no witnesses.But there were witnesses.
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Please,you guys can't do this to me, dude.
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I swear to God, on my two daughtersthat I love so much, man,
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I did not do this.
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People identified you.The composite is you.
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You see, the pictures don't lie.
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Well, did you investigate Juan Catalan
in any way, shape, or form
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before you had him arrested
on August 12th?
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Yes.
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What did you do?
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-We showed his picture to the witness.
-And?
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Verified that he had an apparent motive.
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Ladies and gentlemen,we are pleased to welcome
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more than 2,000 City of El Segundoemployees, families and friends
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to tonight's game.
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We have the paid attendance tonight,27,458.
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Eric Gagnรฉ comes in,and he would go into Mike Kinkade's spot.
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That's a strike.
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Marcus Giles, with runnersin scoring position, is hitting .355.
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Ground ball up the middle!Cora can't block it!
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And the runner's gonna come in.
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Furcal scores, Giles scores, and the game has come apart on Eric Gagnรฉ.
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First of all, we hadan eyewitness who identified him,
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and cooperated with a composite artist
within days of the homicide...
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...and came up with a composite
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that was strikingly similar
to the defendant in appearance.
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She was murdered because she did testify,
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and the day that she testified,
which was May 1st of 2003,
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Juan Catalan was present in the audience
during his brother's preliminary hearing
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when this girl testified.
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Do you think that Juan Catalan
has any kind of a legitimate alibi at all?
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No.
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I'm going to show you three tickets here.
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Which of these tickets
was the one that you possessed?
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Did I explain to you
that we have to tell the truth in court?
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-Do you remember that?
-Yeah.
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If I told you that this pen was blue,
would that be the truth or a lie?
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A lie.
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And if I told you
that this microphone was white,
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would that be the truth or a lie?
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A lie.
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You gonna promise to tell us the truth
from what you remember?
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Yeah.
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Did you go to a Dodger game
with your daddy?
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-Yeah. Yeah.
-This year, last year?
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Did your daddy buy you anything
during the game?
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-Yeah.
-What did he buy you?
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Ice cream.
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And candy.
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And...
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and some Dodgers cards.
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Some Dodger cards?
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Where did he buy the Dodger cards?
Do you remember?
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If Juan had the alibi, the Dodger game,
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why didn't he mention it when the police
were interviewing him
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the night he was arrested?
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You would have to ask him that.
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What were you doingon the night of the 12th?
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Well, I'm gonna remember,
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and that's hopefully gonna clear me up, dude.
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You should see the traffic.
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The only thing movingis the car pool lane.
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I'll never make it. I'm going home.
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Hey, Daddy.
You want a date with momma?
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Get in the car.
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I know the seats
ain't way the fuck up here.
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Got a problem with the seats?
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You said we had good seats,
club seats and shit.
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-Hey, Larry. I see you got a ticket!
-Yeah, the seats really stink, though.
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-Can I join you?
-No.
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Why not?
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-You're not gonna let me sit?
-Not even a minute!
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Thanks.
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At 10:43 at night,
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our defendant, by his own evidence,his own witnesses,
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is on the same street as our victim,
dropping off his cousin, Miguel Catalan,
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about 100 to 150 yardsaway from the murder scene,
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at the time of the murder.
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So the HBO tape,
in your opinion, is good only for what?
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Nothing.
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There's a call at 10:11 in the evening,
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for 49 seconds, an inbound call.
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-Whose phone number is that?
-My friend.
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-And did you call Juan from her phone?
-Yes, I did.
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-Do you recognize that number?
-Yeah, that's my number.
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But I don't remember
if he called me or I called him.
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What's the first number
that you recognize?
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Mine.
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Which cell tower was used
to receive that call at 10:11 at night?
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10:11 at night,
the cell site was NCA 6581...
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You guys are makingthe biggest mistake in the world.
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This night, you madethe biggest mistake of your life.
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No. No.
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You guys are going to remember this,
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'cause you guys are trying to pinsomebody that had nothing to do with this.
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This man would be facing
the death penalty
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if he hadn't, by the grace of God,
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gotten Dodger tickets
from someone the day before
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and invited these people,
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got caught on video from that HBO show.
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You heard the tape of the interview
with Detective Pinner.
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It is clearly a one-witness ID case.
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However, the one witness in this case
is extremely credible,
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has no motive to lie,
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and made a composite drawing
with a composite artist
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that is strikingly similar
to the defendant's appearance.
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I don't have any doubt that eyewitness
attempted to be credible,
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but he observed this murder
on a darkened residential street
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under obviously the most traumatic
of circumstances.
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Go over and give your daddy a hug!
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Hi!
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Everything's over.
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-Thank you, Todd.
-You're welcome, man.
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-I owe you, dude.
-It's all right.
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You owe him your life!
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-I owe you.
-All right.
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You know what incriminating evidence is?
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-Yes.
-All right.
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Were you asking Mr. Catalan questions
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to try to obtain
an incriminating response?
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Yes.
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Did you try to trick Juan Catalan,
after he was arrested,
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with a circle around his picture?
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Yes, sir.
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That was dishonest, right?
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We're gonna begin the press conference
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with the United States AttorneyDeborah Wong Yang.
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The indictment alleges
that several members of the gang
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murdered a 16-year-old girl
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who had witnessed the gang's wrongdoings
and was cooperating with police.
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