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Oh, look at these legions of Brett
Hitman Hart fans.
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I'm like the star quarterback on the
high school team, and then this new kid
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comes to the school.
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He's bald -headed, and he's got an
attitude, and he's a badass.
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I'd like to issue a challenge against
one Brett Hitman Hart. What? They
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both had this incredible energy, but
they were two completely different.
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characters. If you put the letter S in
front of Hitman, you've had my exact
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opinion of Bret Hart.
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The way this is being presented, it
would really piss me off.
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He had to rise to that occasion.
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We'll see who kicks whose ass.
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If you like Holyfield and Tyson, you're
gonna love this.
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Do I know a whole lot of wrestling hoes?
Hell no, I don't. But I'll beat the
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hell out of you till you do say I quit.
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This is about athleticism a hell of a
fight.
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I'm talking about two guys that could
make really small things mean an awful
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lot. Austin will not surrender.
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This guy's going to die in his home. He
ain't going to give up. He ain't going
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to give up.
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And that's where you make Steve Austin.
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Without Brett, I don't think we got
Stone Cold.
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When two legends collide,
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their rivalry stays pinned in our minds.
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This is where we break down the
legendary stories behind the greatest
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of all time.
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I'm Freddie Prinze Jr., and this is WWE
Rivals.
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Today, we're going to discuss two men at
very different points in their careers,
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and that is Stone Cold Steve Austin and
Bret Hitman Hart.
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I feel like Bret Hart at that time was a
pure good guy.
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Especially as a Canadian. I mean, Bret
Hart is like, let's give him the wall of
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fame. Let's make this man our prime
minister. Like, he is it. You want to
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about, like, the most famous man in the
world? I mean, I feel like when you look
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at especially Canadian athletes growing
up, it was like it was Bret Hart.
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Thank you, Bret!
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Since he was born, he's been wrestling.
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I mean, he knows it all. He really,
really does.
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He never had a bad match.
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I used to watch him every night. We used
to watch him marvel about how great a
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wrestler he was.
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Man, in the mid -90s, Brett was huge.
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And I think people liked him because he
was almost like an everyman.
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You know, he wasn't over -the -top
gigantic, but he had this confident
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You know, he was just a cool guy.
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Unbelievable technical wrestler, but
also had credibility.
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I earned being an Intercontinental
Champion.
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I earned being a World Wrestling
Federation Champion.
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Bret Hart was the man. He was the best
guy in the WWE at the time.
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Bret took an enormous amount of pride in
his performance.
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That was who Bret Hart was.
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I'm the best there is, the best there
was, and the best there ever will be.
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Bret, the Hitman Hart.
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Rhett Hart stepped up to be the perfect
face of the company.
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I'm sure a pro wrestler such as yourself
will appreciate all the closet space,
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Hitman.
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In a lot of ways, I was in my prime,
just full of fire, and just wanted to
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really prove myself every day.
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I looked up to the guy, and he was
lobbying for me to come to WWE way back
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the day.
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Stunning Steve Austin, United States
Heavyweight Champion.
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I remember watching Steve Austin on TV.
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I remember going, he's actually a really
good wrestler. I would like to wrestle
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that guy.
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But of course he was with WCW.
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I was a very big WWE guy when I was
younger, but I'd watched all wrestling,
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then I got to see Steve in WCW, what an
incredible in -ring wrestler he was.
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Pick him up, what's he going to do?
Whoa!
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I was like, oh my goodness, this guy's
just not a good wrestler. He's a
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phenomenal wrestler.
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I hope he gets more opportunities to
show that.
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I actually mentioned it to Vince. I
said, why don't you try to get Steve
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from WCW?
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And it was like somebody, maybe Vince or
somebody, he did the call or it all
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might have been a coincidence, but they
called him and he showed up. I remember
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I was like, he's in the dressing room. I
go, there you are.
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I'm going to prove how good the
ringmaster is.
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Brought in as a ringmaster.
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They never had any plans for me to be a
star.
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The ringmaster was something that just
didn't fit.
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It was good for someone who was good,
but it wasn't good for someone who had
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greatness written all over him.
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I think he started to realize that the
ringmaster wasn't the future for him.
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I've been held back for years and years
and years, and this is the chance of a
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lifetime, man.
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If you think I'm going to drop the ball,
you've got another thing coming.
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Well, that's cold. No, man.
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That's stone cold.
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Steve transformed himself within
literally a couple months to Stone Cold
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Austin. Black boots, black tights,
shaved the head, goatee, steely blue
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and just talking trash. I thought, damn
it, this guy's pretty freaking cool.
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You're a piece of garbage.
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You don't deserve to be in the same ring
with Stone Cold.
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He was the baddest mug around.
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He had a certain, like, swagger about
him. Like, he commanded the presence.
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He walked inside an arena.
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You could just tell he had that
magnetism, and it was a good vibe you
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getting. Like, he was a guy you could
easily really hate as a bad guy. You
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there was nothing going to hold Steve
Austin back.
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Steve Austin is on a roll. Look at the
eyes of this guy.
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After I came up with the Stone Cold
Steve Austin thing, things started
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You're looking at the next king of the
ring, Stone Cold.
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Stone Cold Steve Austin was this badass
walking to the ring.
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Austin is cold, calculating, and very,
very focused.
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King of the Ring at the time was an
annual WWE tradition that was a single
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elimination tournament that would see
one superstar, usually
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a breakout star, have the honor of
wearing the crown in the WWE.
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King of the Ring, Stone Cold Steve
Austin.
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Talk about yourselves, talk about John
316.
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Austin 316 says I just whipped your ass.
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The Austin 316 promo, that was the shot
in the arm.
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A light switching moment for Steve,
like, boom, this is the character.
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And that's the bottom line, because
Stone Cold said so.
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Stone Cold had just won King of the Ring
and had the famous Austin 316 quote.
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The entire business changed that day in
Milwaukee. When he said that Austin 316
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line, the next day we come out, there's
Austin 316 signs everywhere.
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I feel like the Austin 316 shirt was
like the most popular shirt in the
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Like overnight, it felt like. As soon as
they released that shirt, that shirt
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just sold out like that. So as a kid
during that time period, of course
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going to get swept up in the whole
excitement.
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So post -King of the Ring, Austin's on
fire.
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David's safe to say that Stone Cold.
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Is red hot right now?
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But he's not quite there yet. He needs
to get to the next level. And in order
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do that, he has to wrestle someone who
is already at that level.
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So what does Stone Cold do?
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I'd like to use this chance to issue a
challenge against one Bret the Hitman
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Hart. What?
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He calls out Bret Hart.
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To beat a man, you got to beat the man.
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Bret Hart was the man.
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He felt like he wanted to test his will.
You know, like, I feel like I'm the man
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right now. And who's been calling
himself the man? That's what I'm going
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I'm the best there is.
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I'm the best there was.
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And I'm the best there ever will be.
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We're talking about Bret Hart.
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The Hitman, one of the greatest legends
of all time. I know exactly who I'm
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talking about, son.
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Yeah, we want Brett.
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I took time off after the Ironman match
with Sean.
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I've never seen two more determined
individuals.
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Just kind of training and preparing and
thinking about whether or not I want to
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come back, and I'm sure I will. I think
it's somewhere down the line.
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And all that time is when Steve's
transformed from the ringmaster and all
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to Stone Cold.
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Stone Cold Steve Austin started calling
out Bret Hart every single chance that
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he got.
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I spit on the life, the career, and the
family of Bret the Hitman Hart.
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As soon as Steve started cutting those
promos, our fans started using their
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imaginations about just how good this
rivalry could be.
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Let me make myself clear.
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If you put the letter S in front of
Hitman, you've had my exact opinion of
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Hart.
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On the night I cut that promo on Bret
where I said, if you put the letter S in
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front of Hitman, you have my exact
opinion of Bret Hart.
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That was something that I thought of
probably before I went out there, but I
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didn't buzz it by anybody because I knew
it wasn't going to fly if I pitched it
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to Vince.
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So that was something I came up with
because it sounded cool and it worked.
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It resonated because it was so
disrespectful because everybody's doing
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in their head. He just said a really bad
thing about a really great guy.
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Man, that's pretty cool. Wish I wasn't
saying that about Brett.
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Brett, if you ever do come back, and I
hope you do, son, somebody's going to
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their ass whipped.
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You know, Brett, you know that I'm
better than you.
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The fact that he was saying all these
things about me, the way this is being
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presented, it would really piss me off.
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And mark my word, if Bret Hart does come
back, I'll kick the hell out of him.
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When I said the things that I said, it
pissed the fans off. That's what made
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and it became personal.
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No one had gotten that personal with
Bret before. Like, he had to rise to
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occasion.
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Bret's been out of the game for a while,
and everyone wants to know if Bret's
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going to accept this match.
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Please tell us, what's in the future for
Brett the Hitman Hart? And by the way,
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welcome back. The one thing that's been
missing in the World Wrestling
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Federation for about the last five or
six months has been me.
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No doubt about it.
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Which is why I've decided to accept the
challenge.
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And in the Survivor Series, I will
face...
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Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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He's like this brash and up a newcomer.
And it's like, OK, let me show you what
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a man is, though.
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We'll see who kicks whose ass.
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Everybody,
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are you
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ready for the Survivor Series tonight?
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My first high -profile match was
Survivor Series 1996, Madison Square
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with Bret the Hitman Hart.
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Everybody talks about the best there is,
the best there was, all the other crap.
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The excellence of execution.
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Bret, cliches are cliches, and an ass
-whipping is an ass -whipping, and
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exactly what you're going to get tonight
at the hands of Stone Cold Steve
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Austin, and that's the bottom line.
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I was feeling really good and really
confident because I had a lot of steam
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me. I was getting over as a heel, and I
felt good about where I was.
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This man soon told Steve Austin to spoil
the comeback attempt up front to hit
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man hard.
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I do remember thinking, oh, no, this is
a genuine threat to Brett.
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It's a real funny feeling that comes
over you because when they hit that
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shred as his music starts, it all of a
sudden chills down your spine and gives
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you goosebumps.
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I remember sitting in Madison Square
Garden waiting for that match.
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Not only was it Bret Hart's return to
the WWE, but it was the biggest match
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Stone Cold Steve Austin had ever found
himself in.
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Stone Cold has an opportunity to make
himself a real big name.
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I liked Bret growing up. I'm going to
say liked. I liked Bret. I respected
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Bret's ability.
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But I also respected Stone Cold's
ability.
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I automatically sided with Austin
because already I was a huge Steve
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I was not a Bret Hart fan, believe it or
not.
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Steve Austin will say anything to you.
You can imagine the worst thing anyone
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could say to you.
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That's probably what Stone Cold is doing
to Bret Hart.
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They both had this incredible energy,
but they were two completely different
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characters.
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If you like Holyfield and Tyson, you're
going to love this.
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It was just one of those classic type
wrestling matches, old school style
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and ripped it up.
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I'd take it six months off.
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That was a hard thing for me to pull
off.
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How much ring rust does Bret Hart
possess?
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How long will it take for Bret to get in
that groove?
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The point of the elbow driven into the
throat of Bret Hart.
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Bret had been gone so long, and I was
really primed up because I'd been on the
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road. It kind of blew him up in that
match, and that was something I was
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of. He blew me up because I very rarely
ever blew up, but he came pretty close.
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I was getting a little parched at the
end of it, and that didn't happen very
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often.
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I can't believe Bret Hart's on his feet.
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You just count on your passion and
everything you've learned to carry you
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through. When all else fails, just hit
the other guy hard.
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It was on, and Brett had to get on his
horse and perform, and he did, as he
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always does.
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And look at this! Awesome!
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Both men are fatigued! Both men are
hurt! This is a war!
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Ends up with me going for my old finish
as a ringmaster, the Million Dollar
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Dream.
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Wait a minute! There's the Million
Dollar Dream!
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He goes to the turnbuckle kicks.
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Over we go, roll up.
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Didn't beat me by physicality. He beat
me by outsmarting me.
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Look at Austin.
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He's not taking his eyes off of Bret
Hart.
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This rivalry between Bret Hart and Stone
Cold is far, far from over.
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That particular match really elevated
Stone Cold. This puts Stone Cold Steve
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Austin right on the same level as Bret
the Hitman Hart.
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That was good for Steve, and I think
that gave him some credibility.
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Guys like Brett, myself, and you are now
considered a main player in that, and
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so it's rewarding in that respect.
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It was a terrific match, but for Steve
to get to that next level, he had to
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that rite of passage and walk through
hell against some great champion, and
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was Brett Hart. I didn't have a foot in
either camp. I was a Brett guy because I
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love Brett's work, but I also respected
someone called Steve Austin.
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For some reason, when that match
happened, I switched and I went and I
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Mom, do you have like a black vest or
like a gold chain I can put on? Because
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for some reason, something about that
match made me go all in on Stone Cold.
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I think that was its purpose in itself
was to legitimize Stone Cold Steve
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Austin. Renee, was this moment from
Stone Cold enough to break your loyalty?
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from the wonderful bret hart or are you
still bret hart all day long listen i'm
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not going to say that it broke my
loyalty to bret hart i love bret hart
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and through but it did sort of pique
this interest of like okay at madison
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square garden it was the luckiest day of
your life making a comeback it was just
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a fluke that you happened to beat me son
because i was every bit better than you
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and you know it things ain't over
between us by a long sight
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Wait just a minute! They're Steve
Austin!
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Oh, Austin!
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It seemed like every time I turned
around, I was getting jumped by Steve.
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It happened!
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Bret Hart is hurt!
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The tension between Bret and Austin, it
felt realistic.
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Look at that! That's Steve Austin!
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Bret Hart just got knocked out with that
steel chair!
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The physicality just got that much more
intense.
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It was so real, you had to believe it.
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This is going to take us to the Royal
Rumble.
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Remember the object, to throw your
opponent over the top rope and both feet
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hit the floor.
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Stone Cold is beating up everybody. He's
clearing the ring.
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Stone Cold Steve Austin is picking them
off.
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He sits on the turnbuckle.
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He's actually awaiting for the next
individual to come out.
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Checks his watch and says, who's next?
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He wants to play us on the top rope,
listen to his watch.
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I'm waiting.
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I'm letting you know I'm waiting.
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Uh -oh.
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Yeah!
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You have that priceless facial
expression.
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Steve was throwing everybody out of the
rumble when that night came in.
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One of the most priceless reactions.
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that any wrestler has ever had in the
Royal Rumble.
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Others have tried since then. None have
matched this moment.
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Now it's serious.
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He's relatively had an easy time up
until that point, and now when he hears
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music, he knows he's in trouble.
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Boy, this is hellfire and brimstone when
these two get together.
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The 1997 Royal Rumble heating up six
competitors in the ring.
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The only way to get eliminated from a
Royal Rumble match.
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is to get thrown over the top rope and
have your feet touch the floor.
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During the match, Bret Hart eliminated
Steve Austin, but the referee
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didn't see it happen.
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But Steve, being the ultimate rule
breaker, snuck back in the ring.
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And while the referee was looking, he
threw Bret Hart.
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Over the top rope. This was the first
instance of Bret Hart starting to feel
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cheated. I've been screwed by Stone Cold
Steve Austin.
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The rumble really did turn that up a
dial and really cranked up the heat
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me and Steve.
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You want people to believe. We made
people believe.
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Look at Austin and Bret Hart fighting
again.
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Every time you turned around, Stone Cold
was right there doing something.
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Wait a minute. There's Steve Austin.
Steve Austin has absolutely become
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with Bret Hart.
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I wish Bret was the one attacking Steve,
but it was such exciting TV.
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The tensions between me and Steve were
built up masterfully.
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Bret Hart went through this period where
no matter what he did, Stone Cold Steve
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Austin was right there on top of him,
antagonizing him, interfering in his
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matches.
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And the more it happened,
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Bret Hart started vocalizing the fact
that he felt he was being cheated.
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But I think I'm about had it up to here
with the lack of justice.
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The cool thing about this is I find a
lot of people say I was here and it
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brought me over to here.
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All of a sudden, Bret Hart isn't saying
the hero character things.
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He's starting to say things that make
him sound entitled.
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Frustrated into the damn word for it.
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This is bullshit.
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Kind of started pissing, moaning a
little bit in his promos.
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All you want to do any time you go on
the ring is cry like a baby.
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Bret Hart did uncharacteristically
become a whiner.
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And as much as we love Bret, no one
loves a whiner.
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Everybody in that damn dressing room
knows that I'm the best there is, the
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there was, and the best there ever will
be.
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If you don't like it, toss it.
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A bad guy that's becoming such a cool,
badass bad guy that people are actually
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starting to like him. And I've become
this hero that's been on the shelf too
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long.
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Steve Austin goes out there in a black
pair of trunks and a black pair of boots
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and gets the job done.
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I think the young fans especially sort
of got into that anti -establishment
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mode. And there was nobody more anti
-establishment than Stone Cold Steve
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Austin. No one can tell me that I can't
be here.
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Here I come, full head of steam, talking
all that trash, because I was so
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entertaining, people wanted to like me.
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Brett was still very much playing the
hero. The horrible things he was saying
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the traditional hero were really
starting to catch on.
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Brett Lord, on his best day, can't lace
my boots, and I'm going to prove that to
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the world.
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Everybody picked up on it, and it made
it that much more interesting.
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Ever since you came back, you ain't done
nothing but cry.
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I had a pretty good long run, and it's
starting to kind of show that they're
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getting tired of me being the hero.
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You feel like a draft in the room.
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What do you want? Get the hell out of
here!
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Get that damn thing out of here!
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I said get out of here!
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At my house in San Antonio, about two
weeks before WrestleMania 13, I'm
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Raw, and I know that the main event is
Undertaker versus Sid Vicious.
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And then I hear, and in a submission
match.
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Bret Hart, who will be in a submission
match, ladies and gentlemen, one -on
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with Stone Cold Steve Austin at
WrestleMania.
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And I'm like,
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that's news to me.
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Nobody told me.
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A submission match.
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I'm not a submission wrestler.
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So I was hot.
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As far as a submission match, it's a
bunch of bull.
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A submission match, there's no pinfalls.
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And like Steve said, he didn't have any
submission holes.
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You know, and I had the sharpshooter,
but that's about it.
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Nobody gets out of the sharpshooter.
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So I saw it as a big sort of obstacle to
having a great match, not a opportunity
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to have a great match.
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He won't be able to scream loud enough
the words I give in a submission match.
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Little did I know that this was going to
be one of the greatest matches of all
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time. There ain't nobody in wrestling
who can make me quit.
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And that's the bottom line, because
Stone Cold sits down.
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He's lost it.
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Oh, he just, he just hit Hall of Famer
Pat Patterson. In the build -up to
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WrestleMania, we are simultaneously
losing a little bit of our affection for
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Bret Hitman Hart.
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God is trying to choke the life out of
Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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While we are gaining admiration for what
Steve Austin is doing, this build
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starts to get a little out of control on
the way to WrestleMania.
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And just to make sure that things are
going to be done correctly, they bring
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the ultimate referee.
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My guest at this time is known in the
ultimate fighting world as the most
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dangerous man in the world.
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Please welcome to the square circle, Ken
Shamrock.
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I mean, Shamrock's the closest thing to
a pure warrior that I've ever seen, the
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world has ever seen. The submission
match. You will be the special referee
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that matchup.
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I am going to be a fair referee.
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Whether Red Heart likes it or Stone Cold
Steve Austin likes it, it doesn't
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really matter.
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being who he was and how he refereed. He
was a big part of that match. He really
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was. I just hope that he calls it down
the middle, and I just hope he gets nice
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and close so he can hear those magic
words, I quit.
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I was happy to be wrestling Brett, but I
was very surprised that they named it a
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submission match.
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I thought we were going to stink the
joint out because of the type of match
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was. You're almost setting yourself up
for failure.
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I think the key to the Steve Austin
match was, uh...
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I had a lot of school fights in my life
where I had to fight somebody after
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school. And a lot of times it's just
like pro wrestling. It gets promoted all
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day. Do not miss out on the pay -per
-view extravaganza of the year,
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WrestleMania 13.
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I'm like the star quarterback on the
high school team. And then this new kid
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comes to the school.
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He's bald head and he's got an attitude
and he's a badass. And it's like, you
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can just see this.
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It's going to happen. These two guys are
going to.
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And I remember talking to Steve. I said,
this is like a school fight.
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Welcome, everyone, to WrestleMania 13.
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Welcome to a jam -packed, sold -out
Rosemount Horizon in Chicago.
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Very fortunate to be working in my
favorite building to work of all time,
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Rosemount Horizon.
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And the reason I say that, with all due
respect to Madison Square Garden, It's
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because of the wood ceiling and rose
mount. The acoustics are so good. When
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do something, you elicit a response.
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And the way that acoustically shoots
that response down to you, you hear it.
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you step on the gas.
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You're making decisions based on that
crowd.
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You talk about in your face.
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That is who Stone Cold Steve Austin is.
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And getting quite a positive response
from this capacity crowd.
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A mixed reaction to a man who
unquestionably has a legacy here in the
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Wrestling Federation, but as of late,
that legacy has somewhat taken a turn.
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Bret Hart and Stone Cold Steve Austin
spent months building this story that
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culminated in a submission match at
WrestleMania with Ken Shamrock making
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first major WWE appearance as the
referee.
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Steve Austin at 6 '2", 252, said there's
not a human being walking the face of
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the earth that can make him say, I quit.
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But I think I believe him.
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Look out, here we go.
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As soon as Brett and I started going,
I'm tuned into the crowd.
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And so we've got them hooked right from
the get -go.
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You can't be counted out. You cannot be
disqualified.
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You've got to quit to end the match.
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We took them on a ride. We brawled up.
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Oh, up in the stands and some 18 ,197
fans watching.
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Oh, my goodness.
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They don't care where they take this
thing.
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We're talking about two guys that could
make really small things mean an awful
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lot. These two men are battering each
other.
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If you're ever studying to be a
wrestler, this is a match you should
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It is like a perfect match.
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We've all seen thousands of matches.
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You only remember things that are really
bad and the things that are really
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something special.
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You can sense that something
extraordinary is taking place.
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WrestleMania 13.
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It was like the fans started to change.
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00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,740
All of a sudden, something Bret Hart
would do. He would get booed.
455
00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:45,020
Bret Hart now, Ripper got hamstring.
456
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,140
And Stone Cold, he's been cheered.
457
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,640
Oh!
458
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,320
Austin said he was going to beat the
hell out of Bret Hart. And that's what
459
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,720
doing right now with a helpless and
steel.
460
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,040
I remember the monitors backstage being
packed.
461
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,100
You were drawn to it, like a moth to a
flame.
462
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,440
This is about...
463
00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:09,950
a hell of a fight between two great
athletes.
464
00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:14,290
We're all just kind of looking around,
wondering amongst each other, how in the
465
00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:15,590
world is this thing going to end?
466
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:24,950
Stone Cold Steve Austin coming outside
now with Bret Hart. Here we go.
467
00:30:25,390 --> 00:30:30,210
The reason this match resonated the way
it did was because I was damn good at
468
00:30:30,210 --> 00:30:34,450
what I was doing, Bret was excellent at
what he was doing, and the chemistry
469
00:30:34,450 --> 00:30:35,490
just worked.
470
00:30:36,910 --> 00:30:39,130
When we got there, we just had a
conversation.
471
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:43,190
This is about 11 o 'clock in the morning
on the day I've wandered out to the
472
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:46,310
ring, and it's like I remember sitting
on the apron of the ring going, what are
473
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:46,929
we doing?
474
00:30:46,930 --> 00:30:49,950
And Brett says to me, you need to be
bleeding.
475
00:30:50,170 --> 00:30:51,170
I said, you think?
476
00:30:51,490 --> 00:30:53,310
He goes, yeah, you do.
477
00:30:56,610 --> 00:31:02,710
In 97, WWE was attempting to go no
blood.
478
00:31:07,230 --> 00:31:09,110
Oh, they lean in, right?
479
00:31:09,490 --> 00:31:10,830
Oh, he's busted bad.
480
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:17,230
It just jumped off the screen because
you were not seeing it week to week on
481
00:31:17,230 --> 00:31:18,230
at all.
482
00:31:18,290 --> 00:31:22,750
Right on the injured knee. Brent Hardell
is like an animal out of control.
483
00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:27,730
Steve absorbed an incredible amount of
punishment, but that was kind of part of
484
00:31:27,730 --> 00:31:30,490
the Stone Cold character. They can keep
on ticking.
485
00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:33,470
Steve Austin is one time SOB.
486
00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:37,710
There's a certain magic that comes out
from two guys that are just
487
00:31:37,710 --> 00:31:42,330
professionals. I was trying so hard for
Steve and myself to do something
488
00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:43,330
incredible.
489
00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:51,290
Brett finally gets me in his submission
hole, the
490
00:31:51,290 --> 00:31:52,290
sharpshooter.
491
00:31:54,030 --> 00:31:59,030
When I put it on Steve and cranked it
in, it's like everyone knows that's the
492
00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,350
end. Nobody ever gets it.
493
00:32:03,690 --> 00:32:06,030
Don't blame Stone Cold if he gave up
here.
494
00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:10,950
Stone Cold Steve Austin, you know, the
blood pouring down his face. He's
495
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:12,030
screaming in pain.
496
00:32:14,410 --> 00:32:17,310
The blood pouring from the forehead of
Stone Cold.
497
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:20,210
Ken Shamrock asking him, does he give
up?
498
00:32:23,470 --> 00:32:25,010
Continues to resist the pain.
499
00:32:25,270 --> 00:32:27,550
These people are standing. Can you
imagine?
500
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,560
I kind of grounded my hands into the
mat, and as I pushed up and was
501
00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:40,440
blood just started flowing out of my
head, and it ran down my cheek and
502
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,440
my teeth.
503
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,000
Austin, trying to get one more. Rusty
McGrindlin. It's not a pretty sight.
504
00:32:46,540 --> 00:32:50,480
And I'm thinking to myself, dang, this
feels good.
505
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,280
Oh, come on, Austin. Come on, come on,
come on.
506
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,680
It's like blood, crimson mass.
507
00:32:58,980 --> 00:32:59,980
It's, oh, man.
508
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:11,560
Tipped me over, and I remember I tipped
over, and I could feel the crowd just
509
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,980
pop. Like that's what they wanted. They
wanted him to win, and I could feel it.
510
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,860
I remember I pushed myself back up, and
I'd break their hearts when I put him
511
00:33:18,860 --> 00:33:19,860
back in the hole.
512
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Austin will not surrender.
513
00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:22,920
He will not submit.
514
00:33:24,060 --> 00:33:25,860
And that's where you make Steve Austin.
515
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,320
How in the hell Austin has not given up?
I can't understand.
516
00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:34,220
This guy's going to die in his hole.
517
00:33:34,420 --> 00:33:36,240
He ain't going to give up. He ain't
going to give up.
518
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,980
Ken Shamrock stopping it, stopping it
right now. That's it.
519
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,500
They rang the bell. He passed out. The
guy never said, I quit.
520
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,520
Austin never gave up, but he passed out
with a pain.
521
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,840
So he didn't quit. He didn't submit.
That gives you respect.
522
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,580
Passing out from a submission hold,
covered in blood.
523
00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:05,780
That moment and that finish is one of
the most iconic images.
524
00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:10,250
Maybe in wrestling. Oh, yeah. To be in
that sharpshooter, the blood pouring
525
00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:13,570
his face. I mean, that was just such an
iconic moment.
526
00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:18,210
Austin arcing up. And the blood goes on
his teeth.
527
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:21,870
That's the moment right there where he's
yelling, the blood's on his teeth. He's
528
00:34:21,870 --> 00:34:24,330
got his blue eyes. It's a perfect
moment.
529
00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:28,190
It's a beautiful struggle of a guy
fighting with all he's got.
530
00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:32,530
One of the most iconic pictures in the
history of professional wrestling.
531
00:34:33,210 --> 00:34:35,690
There is just something about that
image.
532
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:41,370
That has stood the test of time. It
symbolizes everything Steve was about.
533
00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:44,510
can beat him, but you can't stop him.
534
00:34:47,230 --> 00:34:53,750
What that did for me, the fact that,
hey, man, Stone Cold's is bad, but he
535
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:58,190
give up. He might be a piece of shit,
and I don't like him, but he won't give
536
00:34:58,190 --> 00:35:02,680
up. They knew that I would go through
thick and thin through anything and
537
00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:05,800
ever give up. And that's what the blood
said at the end of that match.
538
00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:11,880
I've never seen a display of intestinal
fortitude like we saw what Stone called
539
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,880
Steve Austin.
540
00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:17,000
That's what touches your heart when you
see someone fight that hard and give so
541
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,060
much of himself.
542
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,880
Steve would have been a big star
irregardless of that match. But at the
543
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,780
time, that match was just so iconic
right from the moment it happened.
544
00:35:28,350 --> 00:35:30,270
Such a beautiful, violent story.
545
00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:33,710
I think it was for sure the best match
of my career.
546
00:35:38,070 --> 00:35:39,490
Wait a minute. What's Brett doing?
547
00:35:39,690 --> 00:35:40,690
Come on, Brett.
548
00:35:41,230 --> 00:35:42,230
Enough's enough.
549
00:35:42,750 --> 00:35:46,670
Brett Hart then tries to go after Austin
again.
550
00:35:47,310 --> 00:35:54,190
I remember thinking to myself, ooh, this
is interesting.
551
00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:56,570
Let's see where this might go.
552
00:36:03,370 --> 00:36:04,630
Stopping it right now. That's it.
553
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:13,270
This finish shows how tough and amazing
Stone Cold is. So Brett goes
554
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:18,570
crazy and starts beating up the man who
passed out from the sharpshooter to the
555
00:36:18,570 --> 00:36:21,130
point where Ken Shamrock has to break it
up.
556
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:25,950
Whoa! Ken Shamrock just cut down the
hitman!
557
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:32,560
And you have this crazy face -off with
Ken Shamrock from the UFC, and are they
558
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,419
going to fight?
559
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:35,780
Yeah, come on, Hitman, let's see how
tough you are now!
560
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:42,260
That moment was a turning point, a major
turning point in Bret Hart's career.
561
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:46,300
Listen to this chorus of boos directed
at Bret Hart!
562
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,180
He just turned and walked away like a
coward?
563
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,520
Oh, my goodness.
564
00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:54,720
Amazing storytelling to think of how...
565
00:36:54,970 --> 00:36:59,530
When I walked out to the ring, and I'm
the hero, and then I beat the crap out
566
00:36:59,530 --> 00:37:01,490
this guy and leave him in a bloody mess
in the ring.
567
00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:05,530
These fans are livid at the absence of
Bret Hart.
568
00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:09,170
And I'm walking back to the dressing
room, and you can see it. Everyone's
569
00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:12,250
me their finger, and it's like everybody
was turning on me.
570
00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:14,870
All I did was give this guy what he had
coming.
571
00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:18,730
It's kind of like if people feel sorry
for the shark in Jaws.
572
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:22,070
At that point, Bret just seemed like
such a bastard.
573
00:37:22,780 --> 00:37:24,380
You know, he kicks the guy while he's
down.
574
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,540
He's going to walk out of here on his
own.
575
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:31,180
A man's man, I'll tell you that, whether
you like him or not.
576
00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:35,400
Austin as the hero as well, still
getting up and walking out of the ring.
577
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,880
think that was like a really pivotal
moment as well. He wasn't going to let
578
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,500
anyone help him at all. No one could
help him.
579
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,800
The fans are focused on Stone Cold Steve
Austin. I get the tingles in the scalp,
580
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,020
which tells me it was effective.
581
00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:50,940
25 years later, it still makes my head
tingle.
582
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:54,370
Because you get to appreciate this guy.
583
00:37:54,830 --> 00:37:55,890
He's a warrior.
584
00:37:56,130 --> 00:37:58,090
He is one of the best to ever do it.
585
00:38:01,390 --> 00:38:06,890
Because of the way the psychology of the
match flowed, I went in as the bad guy.
586
00:38:07,090 --> 00:38:08,570
He went in as the good guy.
587
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:13,890
By the time it was over, he came out the
bad guy. I came out somewhat the good
588
00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:15,670
guy. That is a double turn.
589
00:38:15,930 --> 00:38:19,690
That is one of the hardest things to
ever do in the business of sports
590
00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:20,690
entertainment.
591
00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:24,230
That night, it was pulled off at
perfection at WrestleMania 13.
592
00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:32,250
To take one guy who's this Canadian hero
and this total anti -hero and switch
593
00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:36,710
them, make one a babyface and make one a
heel, it shows you how good these two
594
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:40,330
guys were. And we were sitting in the
back watching this thing going, man,
595
00:38:40,330 --> 00:38:44,050
is Shakespeare at its finest.
596
00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:45,690
It was a piece of art.
597
00:38:46,010 --> 00:38:51,050
If you talk about great WrestleMania
matches through the years, to me, I feel
598
00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:53,530
like Hogan and Andre, Sean and Taker.
599
00:38:54,050 --> 00:38:57,970
And then I think they're Rhett and Steve
at Breath of Me at 13.
600
00:38:58,630 --> 00:39:02,410
It goes back to what I keep saying is
that it was like a school fight. I
601
00:39:02,410 --> 00:39:06,270
remember a particular school fight where
there was one kid that was like a baby
602
00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:08,450
face and another kid that was like a
heel.
603
00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:13,230
I remember the guy that was the baby
face end up winning the fight. I
604
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:16,830
in that fight going to school the next
day and talking to friends and stuff.
605
00:39:16,850 --> 00:39:18,090
Everybody was on the...
606
00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:22,770
Bad guy side. Everybody liked the bad
guy for losing. And the good guy, the
607
00:39:22,770 --> 00:39:26,710
that won, everybody stayed away from him
and kind of shunned him a little bit.
608
00:39:27,730 --> 00:39:33,070
When I actually take that lousy,
stinking hyena, so -called Steve Austin,
609
00:39:33,070 --> 00:39:38,130
beat him to a bloody pulp, you somehow
find it in your hearts to abandon me and
610
00:39:38,130 --> 00:39:39,130
cheer for him.
611
00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:43,930
I remember just thinking, like, wow,
it's so much similar.
612
00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:47,970
The psychology of it was just amazing to
see it play out.
613
00:39:48,490 --> 00:39:53,010
All you American wrestling fans coast to
coast, you don't respect me.
614
00:39:53,490 --> 00:39:57,490
Well, the fact is, I don't respect you.
615
00:39:58,330 --> 00:40:02,570
For Bret, it allowed him to go into some
territory he hadn't been in in a while,
616
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:04,470
allowed him to be a bad guy.
617
00:40:04,770 --> 00:40:10,990
One of these days, I'm going to look
down at your grave, and it's going to
618
00:40:11,290 --> 00:40:16,770
here lies Bret the Hitman Hart, the
biggest piece of crap that ever walked
619
00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:17,770
face of the earth.
620
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:22,130
And Steve Austin, it's like, all right,
the sky is the limit.
621
00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:24,890
The Austin era has begun.
622
00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:31,190
Stone Cold's eight -year journey has
been culminated with WWF gold.
623
00:40:32,010 --> 00:40:38,610
Brett, as his foe, really served as the
person who allowed fans to take Steve
624
00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:41,270
Austin to be just as good as he was.
625
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,180
I thought it was sexy the other way.
626
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,160
It's always nice to hear that.
627
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,880
We're actually pretty good friends, and
we've always been good friends.
628
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:02,240
He's a good guy, hands down. I love him.
629
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,420
I've had Steve text me and go, I'm
watching our match, WrestleMania 13,
630
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:10,380
now. Neither individual, I don't
believe, will ever be the same after
631
00:41:10,380 --> 00:41:14,660
match. I mean, I don't know how many
times I've dug out that tape and that
632
00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:17,700
and put it on and always walked out of
the room like I was the king of the
633
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:21,720
world. Brett's one of the best I've ever
worked with. And the biggest thing with
634
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,260
Brett and I is we always trusted each
other.
635
00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:27,080
It was a bond and a brotherhood.
636
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,140
From the bottom of my heart, I want to
thank you for everything that you've
637
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:31,260
for me in my career.
638
00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:35,260
And I've always looked up to you,
admired your work, and it was always a
639
00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:36,460
pleasure to be in the ring with you.
640
00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:41,120
If you like Holyfield and Tyson, you're
going to love this.
641
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:46,970
It was two of the greatest stars of
their era at their very best, bringing
642
00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:48,270
the best in each other.
643
00:41:48,510 --> 00:41:49,590
This is a war!
644
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:51,670
We were very compatible.
645
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:54,830
Went together like two plunks. It was
like perfect.
646
00:41:55,390 --> 00:41:59,090
We brought out the best in each other,
and it was reality -based.
647
00:41:59,430 --> 00:42:04,550
If you put the letter S in front of
Hitman, you've had my exact opinion of
648
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:05,550
Hart.
649
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,240
Man, the fans were so into this rivalry.
650
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,380
They loved Bret Hart at the time. They
hated Stone Cold at the time. And it
651
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:16,960
lasted so long that it even switched
over at the end.
652
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:23,000
I don't think anyone else around that
time period could have made these the
653
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,779
Bret did.
654
00:42:23,780 --> 00:42:27,660
Renee, did Steve pull you over to the
dark side when the story was over?
655
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Hell yeah, he did.
656
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,580
Steve would have always been a big star
here regardless of what happened with
657
00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:36,860
me. But I like to think that I held that
opened the door for him.
658
00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:41,100
He was of paramount importance to my
career.
659
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,540
Without Brett, I don't think you got
Stone Cold.
660
00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:48,820
Propose a toast to the best there is,
the best there was, and the best there
661
00:42:48,820 --> 00:42:52,380
ever will be. Thank you for coming down
to the Broken Skull Sessions. And that's
662
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:54,740
the bottom line because Stone Cold said
so.
663
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Cheers.
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