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You're driving on some of
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the most dangerous
roads in the world,
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behind the wheel of an
armored truck with close to
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a million dollars in the back,
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escorted by a team armed
with high-caliber weapons,
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monitored in real time
from a control center,
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with chopper support above you.
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And yet, you feel
anything but safe.
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Fifteen men coming for you,
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highly trained,
armed with automatic weapons.
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In a high-stakes game
of cat and mouse.
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Every time they
don't surrender,
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it means that you
have to shoot at them?
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And do they, have
you killed anyone?
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Welcome to the deadly world
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of highway robbery.
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In March of 2024,
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an LAPD SWAT team came
looking for a gang member
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believed to be a part of
the Chesapeake Bandits,
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a crew that had pulled off
four armored car heists.
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The
Chesapeake Bandits armed with
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assault rifles and zip ties.
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Police say Rocco,
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who was killed
reaching for his gun,
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and his accomplices
had stolen more than
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half a million dollars,
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part of a growing
number of armored car robberies
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in major American cities.
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That's what caught my attention.
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In a world of cryptocurrencies
and artificial intelligence,
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it's hard to imagine that
tactics dating back to the days
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of stagecoaches would be an
effective way to steal money.
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I want to understand how
these cash heists work and
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how robbers are
getting away with them.
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How are you?
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It's been a long time?
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If anyone
would know, it's Playboi,
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a gang member I
met two years ago.
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At the time, he was making
good money selling weed
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and untraceable guns.
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So you're selling wholesale?
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I'd
reached out to Playboi to find
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out if he knew of any other
groups who have moved on to
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robbing armored cars,
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which is what brought
me to a safe house,
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20 stories above Los Angeles.
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X, Spike,
and Bone are L.A. gang members
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who have formed
their own stickup crew.
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I'm gonna get contact
high over here.
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You're Bloods?
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So what
do you, what do you guys do?
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When did you start
doing these robberies?
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You've got informants inside?
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What was the most amount
of money you've made on these?
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The guy in the back?
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So the guy
that gets out with the money is
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the one that's most at risk?
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That's the one.
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Footage
from a robbery in Denver shows
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it was just a matter of
seconds before guards were
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overpowered and
money stolen.
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It's empty right now, right?
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Can I, can I see it?
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Check it out?
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So, you guys actually
take AR-15s with you guys?
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How do
you feel about the fact that
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somebody can
actually get killed?
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Maybe not you guys,
but one of them.
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There were 49 C-I-T,
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or cash-in-transit,
robberies in America in 2023,
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the last year the
FBI published data.
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And overseas...
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In Brazil, Australia, the UK,
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and Mexico, news
reports and clips shared on
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social media tell
a similar story.
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But what's happening in a
different corner of the world
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is something else altogether.
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In 2023,
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there were 234 cash-in-transit
attacks in a single country...
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South Africa.
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Where heist crews are
locked in a deadly arms race
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with security companies,
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a conflict centered
in the city of Johannesburg.
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This is the cash
processing facility,
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where most of the cash
that we pick up during a
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daily operational
system comes to be
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processed and
then to be banked.
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Morne du Toit heads up
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investigations and operations
for Fidelity Security,
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the largest cash-in-transit
company in South Africa.
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To enter this facility, I've
been fingerprinted, frisked,
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and had my face
biometrically scanned,
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then stepped through seven
double-locked security doors.
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So obviously, this is a
very, very secure facility,
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understanding the type of work
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we do here and the cash
volumes that we carry.
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So, we've never allowed
anybody from the media into
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our cash centers before.
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Wow, so we're
the first ones here?
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- You're the first ones.
- Definitely.
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And is this what
goes into the CIT,
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the locks, the safes?
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So these are your little cash
boxes that are utilized for
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cash-in-transit.
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How much cash does each
of these containers hold?
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It depends on the
configuration of the notes.
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If it's 200 rand notes,
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it can go up
to 250,000 rand.
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That's roughly $14,000 per box,
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to be put on the road as part
of the $50 million transported
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by CIT trucks every day.
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While in Western countries,
payments have gone digital,
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in South Africa,
cash is still king.
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Here, 15% of adults are
without bank accounts,
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and so the circulation
of cash is critical to
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the country's economy.
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Everything is
controlled through processes
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and secured bags
and sealed bags.
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It's brought to
the counting-house.
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It goes into a
secure cage where it gets
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unbroken under surveillance.
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It gets processed and counted,
it gets resealed again,
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placed in secure vaults,
and then moved to the banks.
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It seems that the money
is very secure inside.
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The problem happens once
the money is out of the center.
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Yes.
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There's been nearly one
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cash-in-transit attack per
day in South Africa in 2024.
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Most of them connected to the
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country's highly
organized crime groups.
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Last year, while reporting on
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South Africa's assassins.
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And how many people do
you think you've killed?
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I made
contacts in the underworld,
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contacts I've leaned on
to gain access to an active
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team of robbers.
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Mariana.
Shall we follow you?
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But this is the
outskirts of Johannesburg,
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sort of an
impoverished neighborhood.
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The roads are so bad here
that our windshield just cracked
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on the way here.
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We're following the guy
that we're gonna meet.
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He's taking us to a safe place.
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How many cash-in-transit
robberies have you done so far,
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you think?
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So
You want me to call you...?
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Buster? Buster.
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I was told before I got here
that you are sort of the boss.
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You're the one who gets, gets
the other guys to work with you.
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In South Africa,
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every member of a heist crew
has a specific role to play.
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And as a general in this world,
it is Buster's job to assemble
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a team and put a plan in motion.
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How many people in your group?
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Seventeen?
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Is that normal?
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How many cash-in-transit
robberies have you done so far,
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you think?
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Like, more than 10, 20?
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That's
a lot of cash-in-transits.
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How much money on average,
do you make per robbery?
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Is it safe to say that
you've made over two million?
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Over five million?
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Careful, guys. Get away.
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- Yes.
- Over five million rand?
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That's
nearly a quarter million dollars
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in a country where the
average salary is under
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$20,000 per year.
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Such high stakes have set
up an escalating war between
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security companies
and heist groups.
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With seemingly endless
resources, firepower,
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and legal authority,
security forces should
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have the advantage.
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But over the course of years,
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heist crews here
have developed a playbook
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to tilt the odds in their favor.
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Is it hard to do
cash-in-transit robberies?
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They work at the company
that does the transportation?
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And they tell you,"
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This car is gonna leave
here with this amount of money?"
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- The car you're driving?
- Yes.
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The
surveillance team consists of
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two to three men who study
the route of an armored car,
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count the number of vehicles
and guards that accompany it,
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and pinpoints a location
where it can be ambushed.
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And
then you assemble your team?
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When was the last time you
did one of these robberies?
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Are you planning another...
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Of these robberies?
You are?
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Do you think there's a
chance I could meet some of
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the other
people in your crew?
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Could you try?
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While
Buster checks with his people,
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I'm heading to see what's
happening on the other side.
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Wow.
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This place is like a fortress.
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One thing is clear, if this
is a cat-and-mouse game,
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neither side sees
itself as the mouse.
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One!
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One, two, three, one!
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At
Fidelity's training center
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outside of Johannesburg,
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a group akin to a private
army is preparing for battle.
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Here, drivers pass
through boot camp.
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One!
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Pilots flying through drills...
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...and fast reaction teams
engage in exercises.
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Training to repel the exact type
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of attack Buster's team
is preparing to execute.
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We're going to simulate
a cash-in-transit heist for
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people that's in distress.
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And, you know, one guy's
gonna get shot in the leg and
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then we got two
vehicles that's going to
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come and extract them from...
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So it's a simulation of an,
a heist?
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It's a simulation,
of an attack.
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- And live rounds?
- Live ammunition.
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All right.
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I'm nervous about this.
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Next one, next one!
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In this drill,
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a CIT truck has already
come under fire,
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and the driver has
been shot in the leg.
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Enter Fidelity's rapid
reaction team on a mission to
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outgun the robbers,
extract their colleague,
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and safeguard the cash.
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Let's go! Yes! Yes!
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Holy! That was intense.
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- Amazing?
- That's incredible, wow.
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How many shots were fired?
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About 500 rounds.
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And how often do you
do the simulation?
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Every second week.
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In many ways,
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this training can be
seen as a response to the
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violent crime that runs
rampant throughout South Africa.
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And as this social
media footage captured...
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...the inability of
the country's police force
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to stop it.
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Police here are underfunded,
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overwhelmed, and
riddled with corruption,
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so security companies
have filled the vacuum with
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2.7 million private
licensed officers,
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a number that has nearly
doubled in the last 10 years.
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So life in South Africa from a
criminal side is not worth much.
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You won't think twice to
take a life to get to what you
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have to get to.
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How do you feel about that?
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The fact that
you're losing lives?
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So it infuriates me.
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And you've got a
criminal element out there
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that can take a
life at any moment.
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For them it's a job,
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they do it every single day.
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Just like we try to
counter it every day with
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all our technology,
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our control rooms,
our helicopters, our everything.
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This fleet of helicopters
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has been an expensive,
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yet necessary
addition for Fidelity,
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allowing the company to
locate and pursue robbers
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when they flee the scene.
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But the primary line of
defense is on the ground.
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All outside!
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Drivers begin their career with
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six weeks of coursework
and militarized training.
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- Attention!
- One!
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Hardening
them to become the first line
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of defense against an attack.
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One!
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If these
recruits make it past training,
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they can expect to earn
about $1,000 a month,
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a respectable wage for a
blue collar job in South Africa.
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But there's a catch.
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13 cash-in-transit
robberies in the past few days,
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22 security officers killed,
over 120 officers injured.
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In the
face of overwhelming power,
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most CIT drivers put
their hands up and comply
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with their attackers.
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According to Fidelity, this
is what they're trained to do,
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but some decide to fight back.
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For the past 32 years,
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Dolf has been
driving a CIT truck,
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making him a moving
target for highwaymen.
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Were you ever attacked?
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- 14 times.
- 14 times?
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14 times.
Last year was the 14th time.
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When they were here
next to this window,
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they would start shooting.
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They shoot from the front.
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They shoot from the side.
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Footage
of that attack was captured by
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mounted cameras on the truck.
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So they shoot right
through this window.
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They shoot me in the head.
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I just feel it's bleeding
and it was burning.
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And I press my finger
in like this and then I
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realized they shot me.
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It was going through
my mind, maybe,
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maybe I can saw
some of them,
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I can shoot some of them.
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So I open the shooting hole,
put the gun there.
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I shoot him.
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So when I shoot him,
he's down.
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You killed him?
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I'm sorry you had
to go through that.
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The gunmen took off,
leaving the money behind.
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Dolf was rescued by a
team of security officers and
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airlifted to a hospital.
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It's, it's hard to believe that
it's been eight months only and
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that you're back to
such a dangerous job.
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Why do you do it?
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Because for
the last 32 years,
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it's the only job I know.
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There's no other work.
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Especially in South Africa,
there's no other work.
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Do you think that the,
the robbers are getting better
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at what they do?
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They are.
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Because they're using, nowadays,
they use military weapons.
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And the weapon also, they
shoot through this glass,
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it must be military,
military weapon.
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Military weapons have become
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plentiful and cheap on the
black market in South Africa.
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And so as robbers have
upgraded their arsenals,
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security companies have
fought back with technology,
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betting the lives of their
drivers on two inches of glass.
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Brilliant.
Finger off the trigger.
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At a cost
of nearly $1,000 per panel,
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CIT companies are investing
heavily in technology like
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bullet block windows made
of glass, polycarbonate,
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and adhesive film.
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So you can see now obviously
the glass is still intact.
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It is.
That's incredible.
335
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,227
How many rounds did you shoot?
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35.
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35 rounds
and it's still totally intact.
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This glass is the latest in
a long line of specialized
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products deployed globally
by security companies,
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including exploding dye-packs
that stain money,
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00:21:33,790 --> 00:21:35,620
nozzles that spray glue,
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00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,260
turning cash
stacks into bricks,
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00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:42,760
and this, a specialized
foam that quickly expands and
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hardens when activated,
effectively freezing
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money in place.
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Despite these advances,
often the most effective tool
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00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840
to combat these attacks is
not technology at all
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00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,550
but information.
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00:21:57,980 --> 00:21:59,667
You have informants
on the criminal side?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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We've created a network
to try and stay ahead with
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regards to
information of robberies.
353
00:22:05,250 --> 00:22:06,837
And how important
has that been, effective?
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00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,307
It's been very, very effective.
355
00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:09,560
On this one point,
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even criminals agree.
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00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:13,330
What is the biggest
threat for you guys?
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Impimpi?
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00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:19,730
That's what they
call informants here?
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00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:21,770
How do you deal with it?
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00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:25,340
You mean kill him?
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00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,940
You've killed people who've
tipped off the police?
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00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:36,320
For obvious reasons,
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00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:38,650
finding an informant
who will talk to us has
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00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:40,690
proven almost impossible.
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00:22:41,790 --> 00:22:42,960
Almost.
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00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,630
Here, in an isolated location
outside of Johannesburg,
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00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,060
it's about to happen.
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00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,957
Peter, thank you so much
for meeting us here tonight.
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00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,490
I know you've come from afar.
371
00:23:00,010 --> 00:23:03,510
So, tell me, what crime
are you informing on right now?
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Is it hard to
infiltrate those groups?
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00:23:23,060 --> 00:23:26,030
So if you know, if you're
on the inside and you,
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00:23:26,170 --> 00:23:29,340
you have information of
heists that's going down,
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00:23:29,470 --> 00:23:30,970
at what point do you tell?
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00:23:45,150 --> 00:23:48,000
So you only trust one person
to give that information to?
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00:23:54,090 --> 00:23:56,930
What would happen
to you if they found out that
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00:23:57,060 --> 00:23:58,730
you were informing?
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00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:03,500
They'll just shoot you.
380
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,857
Well, if it is that risky
that you could end up dead,
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00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:09,580
why do you do what you do?
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00:24:11,010 --> 00:24:12,850
I am doing it for my living.
383
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:15,610
So how, how much,
more or less, do you make?
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00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:28,130
So $1,000.
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00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:30,777
That's not a lot of money
for somebody who's risking
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00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:31,910
their lives like you.
387
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:35,780
And, so how does
police corruption play
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00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:36,970
into these heists?
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00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:46,680
Wow.
390
00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:50,050
So even if somebody
is inside the CIT vehicle
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00:24:50,180 --> 00:24:51,867
and saying that
they're being shot at,
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00:24:51,950 --> 00:24:54,107
they're being killed and
begging the police to come,
393
00:24:54,190 --> 00:24:55,420
they will delay it?
394
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:12,070
So Buster,
the heist boss,
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00:25:12,610 --> 00:25:15,180
has made some introductions
to some of the people
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00:25:15,310 --> 00:25:16,310
in his own team,
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00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,867
and one of them has
actually agreed to talk to us.
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00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:19,783
He's the gunman.
399
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,730
He's the guy that
carries the weapons.
400
00:25:22,050 --> 00:25:23,920
And this is really
incredible access,
401
00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:25,590
really rare access.
402
00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:27,720
But on the other hand,
403
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:30,020
this is a very
unsafe world, you know?
404
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,860
These guys operate very
much by their own rules,
405
00:25:32,990 --> 00:25:35,540
so we're not sure what
we're walking into right now.
406
00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:42,020
The meeting has been
set up at a safe house,
407
00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:43,700
where I've been
joined by J.J.,
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00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,090
a local producer,
who has agreed to translate.
409
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,280
- Five minutes.
- You just got notice?
410
00:25:55,550 --> 00:25:57,750
Five minutes.
411
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,770
Pepper?
412
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:19,543
It's Pepper?
413
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,680
- It is Pepper.
- So what do you do?
414
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:24,960
What's your job in
the heist business?
415
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:39,490
If
This was a Hollywood film,
416
00:26:39,630 --> 00:26:42,230
Pepper would be known as
the muscle of the operation.
417
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,770
In South Africa,
he's simply the gunman.
418
00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:53,770
There's no bullets inside?
419
00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:56,140
So this is an AK-47?
420
00:26:56,810 --> 00:26:59,310
Is that the one you use
when you go on the heists?
421
00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:03,267
Where, where is the
R5 that you usually use?
422
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:04,720
Do you have it at home?
423
00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:05,890
No, it's not...
424
00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:06,970
No, it's not mine.
425
00:27:07,090 --> 00:27:10,060
I go and hire it if there
is a need for a job.
426
00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:11,630
You rent it?
427
00:27:13,130 --> 00:27:14,780
How much does it
cost to rent it?
428
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,170
So it's about $1,000, $150?
429
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:22,900
How many weapons do you
need for each of your heists?
430
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:30,710
Handguns?
431
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:33,810
Up to
eight vehicles will typically
432
00:27:33,950 --> 00:27:35,400
be stolen for a single heist,
433
00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:38,290
including a
heavy German car,
434
00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:41,890
pickup trucks to block
traffic and move gunmen,
435
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,660
and sports cars
for a quick getaway.
436
00:28:00,270 --> 00:28:01,920
- So this is a ram car?
- Correct.
437
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,850
Why a Mercedes-Benz?
438
00:28:23,260 --> 00:28:24,177
So
You're on each side of the
439
00:28:24,260 --> 00:28:26,310
truck with your guns
pointed towards them.
440
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,140
And if the driver has
a gun too, what happens?
441
00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:31,920
You're gonna shoot the driver?
442
00:28:33,310 --> 00:28:35,880
Then these ones come and
wait for this thing to open
443
00:28:36,010 --> 00:28:36,880
at the back.
444
00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:38,297
'Cause usually there
are security guards in the
445
00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:39,480
back of the truck too.
446
00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:41,250
And they come out.
447
00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:48,990
So does that mean that
every time they don't surrender,
448
00:28:49,220 --> 00:28:50,377
it means that you're
shooting at them?
449
00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:51,790
You have to shoot at them?
450
00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:55,400
And do they, do,
have you killed anyone?
451
00:28:58,170 --> 00:28:59,470
You have killed somebody?
452
00:28:59,830 --> 00:29:01,730
He understands
what I'm asking, right?
453
00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:04,490
How many times have
you actually killed people?
454
00:29:08,010 --> 00:29:09,310
Three times?
Three people?
455
00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:13,150
Do you have a family?
Do you have children?
456
00:29:14,510 --> 00:29:15,720
How many?
457
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,920
When you killed
those security drivers,
458
00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:22,860
did you feel bad knowing that,
459
00:29:22,990 --> 00:29:24,840
that they might have
children as well?
460
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:31,130
But
they were just doing their jobs,
461
00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:34,740
right, they were just
driving their car, that car.
462
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,900
They were just doing their job.
463
00:29:43,340 --> 00:29:45,350
How, when was the
last one you did?
464
00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:47,410
Four weeks ago?
465
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,750
How much money did you make,
did you personally make?
466
00:29:53,850 --> 00:29:56,020
So, so you
made 90,000 rand?
467
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,190
So $5,000?
468
00:29:58,990 --> 00:30:04,330
Is that, is that good money?
469
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,770
Our aim is not to
take all the money.
470
00:30:11,910 --> 00:30:15,510
So we just take some,
which is enough for us.
471
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,410
Then the other, we,
472
00:30:17,540 --> 00:30:20,410
we leave and we
throw it around the truck,
473
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,720
so that on our way out,
the community can come and
474
00:30:24,850 --> 00:30:28,160
get money to confuse
and slow down the police.
475
00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:31,220
It's a clever tactic,
476
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,860
one that sells a Robin Hood
narrative to the community.
477
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,710
Taking away from the rich
and giving it to the poor?
478
00:30:38,830 --> 00:30:40,730
While
effectively shutting down roads
479
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:42,240
to wade an escape.
480
00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:43,570
To counter this,
481
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,210
security companies have
invested in air support.
482
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:49,980
And what have the robbers
done to counter air support?
483
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,267
Do you guys have
a strategy for when
484
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:53,780
there is a helicopter?
485
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,150
I have the rifle.
I have to fire at the chopper.
486
00:30:59,250 --> 00:31:02,060
Because when I do that,
then it goes away.
487
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,090
Does it reach the helicopter?
488
00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:05,420
Is it strong enough?
489
00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:08,930
But
that kind of chaos is a drop
490
00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:11,930
in the bucket compared
to the latest innovation
491
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:13,430
by heist crews.
492
00:31:14,370 --> 00:31:15,340
Fifteen years ago,
493
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:18,370
in response to a rash
of armed truck robberies,
494
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:21,270
many South African money
trucks began to be fitted
495
00:31:21,410 --> 00:31:24,380
with onboard safes that
had to be remotely opened
496
00:31:24,510 --> 00:31:26,080
from a control center.
497
00:31:26,650 --> 00:31:28,980
But as these clips
on social media show,
498
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,390
they inadvertently ushered
in an age of carnage.
499
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:38,007
When crime syndicates
found themselves unable
500
00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:39,990
to force drivers to
open the safes,
501
00:31:40,660 --> 00:31:43,130
they came up with a new
method to get the cash.
502
00:31:47,330 --> 00:31:49,040
High-powered explosives.
503
00:31:55,210 --> 00:31:57,210
The communities are terrorized.
504
00:31:59,510 --> 00:32:01,210
Holy!
505
00:32:01,650 --> 00:32:03,120
Hey, hey, hey!
506
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:07,120
Like
San Francisco back in the 1800s,
507
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:09,920
the city of Johannesburg
began as a gold rush town.
508
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,390
Now, as the number of
gold mines proliferated,
509
00:32:13,530 --> 00:32:16,400
so too did the
need for dynamite.
510
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,970
Today,
with plenty of mining
511
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:29,040
operations still nearby,
512
00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:31,530
it's not hard to source
black market explosives.
513
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,150
But getting an underground
demolition man to talk
514
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,620
hasn't been easy.
515
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,850
What about the explosives guy?
516
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:41,240
Do you think we could
meet the explosives guy?
517
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,190
Probably not?
Why is bomb guy difficult?
518
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,200
- He will think that.
- They will think it's a setup.
519
00:32:53,770 --> 00:32:54,970
In the end,
520
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,240
both Buster and Pepper
vouched for me,
521
00:32:57,370 --> 00:32:59,140
which is what led me here,
522
00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:02,210
for a face-to-face meeting
with the most elusive
523
00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:05,180
and rare member
of any heist crew.
524
00:33:06,450 --> 00:33:07,580
The bomber.
525
00:33:08,450 --> 00:33:09,480
Super?
526
00:33:11,020 --> 00:33:12,820
That's what you
want me to call you?
527
00:33:13,550 --> 00:33:14,590
Why Super?
528
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:19,190
You are the explosives guy?
529
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:35,140
You are the explosives guy?
530
00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:38,830
So you are the one
who explodes the vans?
531
00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:40,860
And how did you learn?
532
00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:46,990
So when the team
arrives at the CIT heist,
533
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,150
at the heist.
534
00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:49,990
Do you carry a gun?
535
00:33:57,330 --> 00:33:58,330
Seven minutes?
536
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,970
So you time it to avoid the
537
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,450
helicopter seeing the cars?
538
00:34:06,610 --> 00:34:08,527
So imagine this is the
back of the car, of the truck...
539
00:34:08,610 --> 00:34:10,480
There's doors here, right?
540
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:26,330
Prior to the heist,
541
00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:29,330
Super will have prepared up
to eight different explosives,
542
00:34:30,430 --> 00:34:32,230
then, once he's
inside the truck,
543
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:35,440
he'll make a split
second decision about which
544
00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:37,440
one is best for the job.
545
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,670
So once you place the
explosives, what happens?
546
00:34:54,350 --> 00:34:56,937
You're trying to have enough
explosives to open it up,
547
00:34:57,020 --> 00:34:59,670
but not too many that it
would damage the cash inside.
548
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,447
Is it getting harder
and harder to open up the safes
549
00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:03,700
with the explosives?
550
00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:09,920
You don't think they're getting
better at protecting the money?
551
00:35:15,310 --> 00:35:18,010
When were you planning on
buying your next explosives?
552
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:28,807
Are you going to buy
them anytime soon that we
553
00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:30,060
could see them?
554
00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:32,777
So that might
mean that you're planning a
555
00:35:32,860 --> 00:35:34,290
heist in the next two days.
556
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,840
Super wouldn't share
details on his upcoming job,
557
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:50,110
but he did agree to
meet up later in the day,
558
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,350
after buying the explosives.
559
00:35:53,310 --> 00:35:55,260
So this is the guy
that sells it to you?
560
00:35:55,350 --> 00:35:57,367
And he's the guy that
works at the mines?
561
00:35:57,450 --> 00:36:00,720
Wow. So that's
the explosive right there?
562
00:36:01,790 --> 00:36:03,340
Wait.
Is it that bag over there?
563
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,490
Can I see it?
564
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,860
Wow.
565
00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:12,670
Wow.
So this is it?
566
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,800
Should I be afraid?
567
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:18,140
Is it
568
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,990
Are they going to explode?
569
00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:21,310
Sure?
570
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,710
So this is it?
571
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,090
So this is packed with
explosives right there?
572
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,167
So you light this side here.
573
00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:34,207
And then you have
the extent of this wire,
574
00:36:34,290 --> 00:36:35,660
while it's burning,
575
00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:37,840
that's the time that
you have to run away.
576
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,810
And all of this costs what?
How much?
577
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,500
So in total, you
spent about $30-$35,
578
00:36:47,930 --> 00:36:49,880
and you get all the
explosives you need.
579
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:52,950
Can you open it?
Can I see what's inside?
580
00:37:02,650 --> 00:37:03,737
It smells really strong,
581
00:37:03,820 --> 00:37:05,570
it smells like petrol
almost, right?
582
00:37:06,590 --> 00:37:08,577
So if the police
shows up now, for example,
583
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:11,210
or sees you in the car with
this, what would happen?
584
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,660
You just give them money?
585
00:37:18,030 --> 00:37:20,770
That's $500 to $800.
586
00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:22,917
Do you get to keep
the explosives,
587
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,300
or they take it with them?
588
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,090
So you pay them a
little cash, and that's it?
589
00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:30,680
From modest beginnings,
590
00:37:30,810 --> 00:37:34,180
the escalation in this arms
race has gone sky high.
591
00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:39,520
South Africa's security
forces created cash centers to
592
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:43,560
minimize bank robberies so
the robbers set their sights
593
00:37:43,690 --> 00:37:45,790
on CIT trucks
instead of banks.
594
00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:51,330
Security companies then
militarized to outgun robbers
595
00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:53,930
and robbers militarized
to outgun security.
596
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,610
CIT companies recruited a
secretive network of informants,
597
00:37:59,740 --> 00:38:03,310
heist crews did their best to
identify and assassinate.
598
00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:06,550
Companies put
helicopters in the skies,
599
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,520
and robbers put crosshairs
on those helicopters to
600
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:11,350
chase them away.
601
00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:15,320
And finally, hoping high tech
would give them a leg up,
602
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:17,607
security companies
installed remote locks on
603
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:19,460
the safes in armored cars.
604
00:38:19,590 --> 00:38:22,300
And robbers put bombs
on those armored cars to
605
00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:23,800
bypass the remote locks.
606
00:38:27,730 --> 00:38:30,500
And so what comes next
for security companies?
607
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,910
The dream of a bombproof truck.
608
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,380
So inside that is
the safe, right?
609
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:38,410
- Correct.
- Yes.
610
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:41,380
What they do is they use
this emulsion cartridge.
611
00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:43,997
So this is similar to the
explosives that the robbers use?
612
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,720
Exactly.
That's the one.
613
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,960
In three, two, one.
614
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,660
My God.
615
00:39:06,070 --> 00:39:09,910
There are 3,000 of these
vehicles still in operation.
616
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,510
They used to take
cutting torches, but of course,
617
00:39:13,650 --> 00:39:14,580
they got smart,
618
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:16,850
and now they're
using explosives.
619
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:18,380
Armored truck bombings have
620
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,090
created a financial
sinkhole for CIT companies,
621
00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:24,360
which have to self-insure
much of the cash they carry,
622
00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:27,760
as well as replace
destroyed trucks at a cost
623
00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:30,330
of roughly 100-grand each.
624
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:35,340
On the flip side, they have
created a steady stream of
625
00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:39,370
business for truck makers
like the company led by Nadine.
626
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,840
Twice a year,
627
00:39:41,980 --> 00:39:45,410
her research department
bombs its own CIT trucks and
628
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:48,410
studies how best to
harden future models.
629
00:39:52,750 --> 00:39:54,450
Now you see it...
630
00:40:00,790 --> 00:40:01,900
...Now you don't.
631
00:40:07,570 --> 00:40:11,100
My God.
632
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:16,740
That was insane.
633
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,097
Is this what it looks like
out on the streets, as well,
634
00:40:19,180 --> 00:40:20,380
when they explode it?
635
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:22,580
It does.
Yes. Yes, it does. yes.
636
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:28,550
My God. Holy smokes.
637
00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:30,920
Look at that.
638
00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:32,477
You could feel the
explosion when we were
639
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,100
protected inside the bunker,
but you could really feel it.
640
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:37,817
You'd understand why the
people inside would want
641
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:39,630
to exit the
vehicle if they start
642
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:41,430
threatening it with explosives.
643
00:40:42,770 --> 00:40:44,900
Wow and that's
the safe door right here.
644
00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:49,990
Online footage shows
how for security officers
645
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,740
who survive a heist,
646
00:40:52,210 --> 00:40:55,060
the chaos doesn't end with
the burning remains of a truck.
647
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,920
It can also devolve
into a scene like this,
648
00:40:58,850 --> 00:41:01,000
guards fighting to
defend what's left of the
649
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,090
truck and its contents,
while locals come running.
650
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,930
It can get violent.
651
00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:13,630
Very violent.
652
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:17,600
But what if it
could be prevented?
653
00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:19,670
The carnage,
the financial loss,
654
00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:23,510
the arms race with a new
kind of cash in transit truck?
655
00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:27,880
One that borrows heavily from
vehicles deployed to war zones?
656
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:33,620
At Nadine's company,
which she prefers not to name,
657
00:41:34,290 --> 00:41:35,890
those next
generation trucks are
658
00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:37,660
rolling off the assembly line,
659
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,790
destined to carry
cash for Fidelity.
660
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,530
So we started with
the development in late 2022.
661
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,210
And last year, we
started with manufacturing.
662
00:41:53,970 --> 00:41:56,040
Is the steel bulletproof?
663
00:41:56,180 --> 00:41:58,140
So the
steel is armored steel.
664
00:41:58,510 --> 00:42:00,950
So it's, obviously,
bulletproof and bombproof.
665
00:42:01,210 --> 00:42:04,020
And the glass is
also armored glass.
666
00:42:04,350 --> 00:42:06,067
So if the robbers
were to bomb this,
667
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:07,750
this vehicle,
what happens?
668
00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:11,060
So armored steel,
if you construct it in the
669
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:14,590
right way, when it explodes,
it doesn't shatter.
670
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:16,530
So if that's the case,
671
00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:18,117
what do you think,
because the bombing,
672
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,030
the explosive
use was an evolution
673
00:42:20,170 --> 00:42:21,917
from the criminal side,
what do you think is going
674
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,187
to happen now in
terms of the evolution
675
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:24,117
on the criminal side?
676
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,540
Well, let's see,
anything's possible.
677
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:28,570
They're extremely creative.
678
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:32,580
For now,
that creativity has given the
679
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:34,250
robbers the advantage.
680
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:36,880
So who do you think is winning,
the robbers or the.
681
00:42:39,220 --> 00:42:41,520
Do you think the robbers
will keep on winning?
682
00:42:44,890 --> 00:42:47,640
So, what do you think needs
to happen for this to stop?
683
00:42:52,930 --> 00:42:54,570
It's a common refrain.
684
00:42:55,770 --> 00:42:58,810
So you said it's government
money, is that how you feel,
685
00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:00,440
like this is government money?
686
00:43:05,780 --> 00:43:07,950
Back in LA,
X, Spike, and Bone
687
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,280
blame economic
conditions, as well.
688
00:43:10,650 --> 00:43:12,667
They say they are
moving forward with plans
689
00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:14,020
for new robberies,
690
00:43:14,450 --> 00:43:16,790
joining the ranks
of crews in Texas...
691
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,537
Police say
three suspects stole money
692
00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:20,030
from an armored
Brinks truck.
693
00:43:20,430 --> 00:43:21,530
...North Carolina...
694
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:23,910
More than a quarter
million in cash was taken.
695
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,060
...and Pennsylvania.
696
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,700
Making
off with hundreds of
697
00:43:26,830 --> 00:43:28,230
thousands of dollars.
698
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:33,810
Maybe
we shouldn't be surprised.
699
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:35,910
A three-man
crew pulled this off in the
700
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,080
middle of the
day in a busy plaza.
701
00:43:38,780 --> 00:43:40,250
People will steal just about
702
00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:42,120
anything to make money.
703
00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:44,650
They'll steal
cars to make money,
704
00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:49,290
they'll steal jewelry,
they'll even steal identities.
705
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:53,330
So you better believe,
if they get the chance,
706
00:43:54,060 --> 00:43:56,860
they'll steal money
to make money.
707
00:44:00,030 --> 00:44:02,340
It's as simple and ugly as that.
53333
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