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I got a hell of an idea.
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Consider this an open invitation, Vince
McMahon.
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How do you describe the Monday Night
Wars?
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The Yankees can't stand the Boston Red
Sox. Well, in wrestling, we have WWE
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and WCW.
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Hulkamania lives in world championship
wrestling.
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We just want to be as successful as
Vince is.
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And then we'd like to, you know, kick
his butt.
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He was there to try to put Vince out of
business.
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They beat us for 83 weeks straight.
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We fought back.
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I felt very competitive with him. It's
like, hey, man, he's guys.
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This is going entirely too far.
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Such a unique time in the business.
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Everything had an edge. It was kind of
like the cool thing to do.
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Mike Tyson!
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You don't know what's going to happen
next and you don't want to miss it. It
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a legit rivalry and competition between
two companies.
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You want a war?
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You're going to get one.
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This rivalry has just escalated into a
war.
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When two legends collide, their rivalry
stays pinned in our minds forever.
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This is where we break down the
legendary stories behind the greatest
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of all time.
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I'm Freddie Prinze Jr., and this is WWE
Rivals.
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This was the craziest time in wrestling
that I had ever experienced as a fan.
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We're going to discuss WCW and WWE.
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As a fan, you're getting like the best
of both worlds to where you're taping
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Nitro on the VCR in one room and then in
the other room you're watching live
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because you can't go back and watch
both. Otherwise, you're missing the key
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points of the story.
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So I feel like it was just such a good
job of really trying to honor, I guess,
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the customer or the viewer by putting
out like good stuff.
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So, John, I'm wondering if you can sort
of put into perspective, how did this
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come about?
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Sure, it's because of television.
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Television was regional, and they were
talking about going national because
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saw what was coming with national
television and knew somebody was going
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it. Hello, everyone. This is Vince
McMahon in the studios of the USA Cable
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Network. We wholeheartedly welcome you
to the premiere of All -American
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Wrestling.
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Vince is the guy that is going national.
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Welcome to wrestling.
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But guys weren't able to beat Vince at
it. And the one guy that's left is Jim
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Crockett in the Carolinas. And Jim
Crockett sells to Ted Turner.
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So this is the last battle of the
territories in the United States.
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I want to congratulate World
Championship Wrestling for continuing
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of bringing action -packed wrestling
excitement to PBS.
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The reason that I got involved from an
ownership standpoint is that I had a
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vision that eventually would be
successful with it.
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WCW was the distant number two to WWE.
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Nobody ever thought it would be
competitive to WWE.
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We just want to be as successful as
Vince is.
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And then we'd like to, you know, kick
his butt.
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Monday Night Raw, starting on the USA
Network in 1993, was revolutionary.
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Prior to that, shows felt very canned
and put together. The launch of Raw sort
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of completely changed sports
entertainment.
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The live nature of it, the sort of
anything can happen
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quickness of it.
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There was a magic to that show, and the
way it was presented, that sort of was a
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game changer.
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Back then, Vince was moving in a
different direction.
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Vince was moving to younger wrestlers at
the time, and it was like a youth
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movement.
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And it just seemed like the perfect time
for us to mutually part ways.
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When I did Thunder in Paradise,
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On the soundstage next to me where I was
filming was Ted Turner's WCW.
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Eric Bischoff started coming over, and
he started bringing Ric Flair with him,
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going, hey, Hulk, we want you to come
back and be part of wrestling. I said,
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way.
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This went on for a good five or six
months.
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I missed wrestling so much, the filing I
caved, and basically went to work for
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Ted Turner.
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I told you Hulkamania was going to run
wild in the WCW, brother.
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Look at all the Hulkamaniacs.
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That was the first blow of like, hmm,
now they're taking established
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stars from the WWE and bringing them
into WCW. That's going to get them
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Hulkamania lives in world championship
wrestling.
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The first night on a pay -per -view, it
had much more traction than they'd had
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ever. One man, one champion, the only
champion in the world today.
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Everybody double -bobbed and said, whoa,
what's going on over here? And made
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everybody look and not look away.
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And then from there, it was Randy
Savage.
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I'm here for only one reason, and that's
to take it to the limit, yeah.
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Machen Kogan came in. It was huge.
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All these wrestlers that we used to
watch growing up were now going to a
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different place of business to work for
someone else that we never thought we'd
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see before.
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Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage
had been established as the two biggest
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stars in all of sports entertainment.
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So the idea that they were on another
channel wrestling for another company
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instantly gave that company credibility
and gave that company eyeballs.
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Without a shadow of a doubt, this is
where the big boys play.
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Look, they were outvincing Vince.
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You know, you look at what Vince did at
WrestleMania 1.
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He poaches Piper. He brings in Liberace.
He brings in Muhammad Ali.
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They were doing the same things.
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The Hulk stars in the ring!
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High five Shaquille O 'Neal!
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They poached Hogan. They bring in the
celebrities.
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This was his most formidable opponent by
far.
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We'd like to make an announcement today.
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WCW Monday Nitro live on PNT will be
seen Monday night.
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The first time I heard about Nitro going
head -to -head with us, I thought they
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were crazy.
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Why wouldn't you go on a different day
where you have an opportunity to have
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of the audience?
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I wanted to go on Monday night because I
wanted to go head -to -head with Vince.
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You can't beat anybody unless you get in
the ring with them.
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We want to give viewers a choice. We
believe we've got the biggest stars in
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industry. When WCW made the decision to
go head -to -head Monday night, that was
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absolutely an act of war. It was real
competition.
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Same time spot, one channel apart.
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Buckle your seatbelt because it's going
to be a bumpy, bumpy ride.
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Everyone in the Minneapolis -St. Paul
area getting ready for Monday Nitro on
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this Monday night. Check your local
listings. It's coming your way.
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I had just finished doing probably about
six months worth of research.
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I traveled all over the country, sitting
in different focus groups. The element
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of surprise is one of the things that I
kept hearing.
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And I've got the inside track on a
scorching rumor that has a very
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wrestling superstar about to sign with
World Championship Wrestling.
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Lex Luger was one of WWE's biggest
stars.
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Lex Luger's contract had expired.
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Lex didn't let anybody in WWE know that
his contract was coming up, and somehow
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WWE just let it slip between their
fingertips.
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As we were getting closer and closer to
the debut at Nitro, Lex came to me and
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he said, look, my contract is up Sunday.
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And I thought, whoa, huh.
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Lex, it's Eric.
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I got an idea.
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What a matchup we have got in store in
this debut broadcast.
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What in the hell is he doing here?
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Lex came in. That was like, whoa.
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He had jumped ship.
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People are freaking out.
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Really helped set us up for great
success because there was already
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Now we have the opportunity to really
surprise people.
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Well, you said things were going to
happen every Monday night, Bishop, and
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happening. It was definitely a big
shocker for wrestling fans.
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How is this happening?
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Wait, Luger's in there! What is this?
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In the ring!
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It was such a shocker to everyone. It
was a big deal.
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Lex Luger has come from out of nowhere!
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It was going to be different, and it was
never going to be the same ever again.
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This is the most amazing turn of events
I have ever seen.
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It worked magically.
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Didn't it, Bruce Prichard?
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Damn, how did that happen?
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I am sick and tired of playing around
with kids.
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I'm here to get it on with the big boys,
and that means you.
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It was electric. I mean, this is our
opportunity to gain some more momentum.
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I know where you've been, brother.
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It told everybody that you have to tune
into Nitro every week because you don't
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know what's going to happen next, and
you don't want to miss it.
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Okay, we're going to compete. Let's go.
We're in a fight. Let's go fight.
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Last week, debut edition of Nitro. We
saw Lex
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Luger stunning the world, making his
appearance here.
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That Lex Luger moment, it had a lot more
to do with Nitro's success, in its
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early success, than almost anything.
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because it set the tone.
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Here's this new show coming out to
compete with Monday Night Raw, head -to
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-head, and we're doing things that
nobody else in the wrestling business
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ever done.
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At the time, Monday Night Raw was
recorded live every other week, and they
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live every week, and they would often
give spoilers as to what was going to
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happen on our tape shows.
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In case you're tempted to grab the
remote control, check out the
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Don't bother.
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Shawn Michaels beat the big guy with a
super kick he couldn't earn a green belt
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with in a local YMCA.
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He wasn't there to do good business for
himself. He was there to try to put
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Vince out of business.
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He was just trying to attack Vince
McMahon. That's how I'm going to get
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recognized. Look at her.
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And a hundred plays once again. The WWF
Women's Champion.
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So Alundra Blaze never lost the WWE
Women's Championship. But her contract
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out. And Eric Bischoff and WCW signed
her right away.
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And she brought the championship belt
with her to Nitro.
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That indeed it is.
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And that's what I think of the WWF
Women's Championship belt.
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Alundra Blaze throwing that title in the
garbage can. Let the WWE know that the
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gloves were off.
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Competition is one thing, but WCW, some
of their tactics were a little on the
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personal side.
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Oh, Chief Covers just got sucked up on
that one in Connecticut, didn't he? Wow!
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Competition's great, and it brings out
the best. It also brings out the worst
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sometimes. And one thing that we had
never done was acknowledge our
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Don't acknowledge them. They don't
exist.
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But we were in a fight, and there are no
rules in a fight.
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I built this company by doing one thing
really well.
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Buying old assets and repackaging them.
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Heck, I even bought old Rafflers.
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The billionaire Ted Skits were something
we had to do. It was unorthodox.
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Joining us tonight, the Hoxta and the
Nacho Man.
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Vince started doing the mockeries.
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Not really the smartest move.
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Because all of a sudden, the WWE
wrestling fan.
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who love those two guys, and you mock
those two, that pissed WWE fans off.
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It kind of like made fans, we better
turn WCW to see if Hulk Hogan's really
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pushing the walker.
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Made people look, you know, to see if I
was really that washed up.
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I was not that offended by him. I said,
boy, this must be hurting to be
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resorting to this kind of stuff.
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We're losing guys left and right, and
our business is suffering.
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We were starting to lose in the ratings
more regularly, and it became clear that
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WCW had what I would call the hot hand.
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Am I in a role, or am I in a role,
Bobby? You're in a role. How about it?
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When I got there, business wasn't that
great.
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I can remember very distinctly being in
Pittsburgh in a half -full arena,
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standing at the curtain with Austin, him
saying, man, you think it'll ever be as
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big as it was like in the 80s?
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I remember one show we had like 500
people.
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That was really, really bad.
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A lot of our big guys are leaving to go
to WCW. They had just kind of basically
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opened up their checkbook and said, come
on down, you're not going to have to
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work much and you're going to get paid a
lot of money.
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There was more money being offered than
had been offered before to guys.
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The businessman in me is going, this is
a good thing.
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Because I'm a wrestler, so the more
wrestling companies there are, the
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is for me.
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Dallas Page, who was really good friends
with Scott Hall, kind of brought a
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ballpark number of what he would get
guaranteed money for half as many dates.
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So it was basically for Scott almost
three times the amount of money he made
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half as many dates.
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And it was guaranteed.
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I looked over at Scott and I said, see
what they'll give me.
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Dude.
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Say hello to Razor Ramon.
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Razor Ramon and Diesel had been built as
two of the biggest new superstars in
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WWE. They left the WWE and decided to go
for big money in WCW.
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It works because, number one, the stars
are aligned.
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Scott Hall walks on WCW TV.
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You want a war?
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You're going to get one.
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The next week.
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Kevin Nash walks on TV.
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This is where the big boys play, huh?
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You know who I am, but you don't know
why I'm here.
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They're not saying they're Razor or
Diesel.
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Razor's got the same haircut, he's got
the toothpick, it's hey -o.
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And Diesel's, you know, out there and
doing big daddy cool stuff.
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Perception as an audience member is, are
we working together?
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WWE's invading WCW, this is good stuff.
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These two rogues who think they're going
to come in and take over world
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championship wrestling.
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So it seemed as if WWE was invading WCW.
It made it so you never wanted
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to turn the channel off Nitro. The big
man and the medium -sized man and
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our surprise buddy are going to carve
them
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up.
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Who is going to show up to WCW next? And
who is going to join this invasion
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organization that Razor and Diesel, Hall
and Nash, were starting?
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I want to confront you. I don't see
three men here tonight. Where is your
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partner?
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Chico, you know too much already.
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All you need to know, little man, is
he's here and he's ready.
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I thought the build -up to it, who's the
third man, was huge.
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It was one of the coolest things in
wrestling.
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Hulkamania! Hulk Hogan is here!
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Hulk Hogan's here!
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Now, Hulk Hogan, since the early 80s,
had been the ultimate hero in
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wrestling. So WCW decided to shock the
world.
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White meat, baby face, good guy. This
was the role model for your children.
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But the act had started to get stale
with wrestling fans.
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Hulk Hogan dropped the leg on
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WCW. Hulk Hogan went villain.
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Like, are you kidding me? And not only
that, but literally have trash thrown at
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Hulk Hogan.
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Beloved Hulk Hogan.
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The ring filled up with so much crap. I
said, oh my God, we got some heat.
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As far as I'm concerned, all this crap
in the ring represents these
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fans out here.
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You fans can stick it, brother.
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All you fans can stick it, brother.
Like, what a moment in wrestling
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This right here is the future of
wrestling.
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You can call this the New World Order of
Wrestling, brother.
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He's like, I'm bigger than WWE, and I'm
going to make this company bigger than
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you. That fuse was lit. Oh. And it was a
short fuse.
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Yeah. And when it blew up, you guys took
over.
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The following announcement has been paid
for by the New World Order.
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Well, you talk about the money. You talk
about beating people up. Well, it's the
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New World Order. And I hope it's okay
because there's nothing you can do about
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it. The NWO became the most popular
thing in sports entertainment. The anti
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-heroes that everybody was craving in
that era.
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Here's the NWO.
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Ready or not, here we come.
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They were so hot. They kind of like
redefined wrestling.
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Be a spray painting on the video truck.
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Oh, you're talking about a bunch of
cowards.
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They were supposed to be the bad guys.
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Oh, no!
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But they were too cool to be bad.
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Everybody here just can't get enough of
the
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NWO.
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And so you're kind of wondering what's
going to happen next week. Who's going
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be the next guy in the NWO?
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I guess we're getting the official
coronation of the newest member of the
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world order.
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Culturally, the most influential thing
that was happening was West Coast wrath.
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I remember Hogan saying, well, where'd
you guys get that for life at? I said,
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it's at the beginning of Mac 10.
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All we did was just took all these
different little culture things and kind
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integrated them and just ran with it. It
kind of matched what was really going
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on in society where everything had an
edge.
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And NWO fell right in that pocket with
what was cool and acceptable.
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You gotta love this.
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Once the NWO emerged, that train just
took off and left everybody, including
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Monday Night Raw, in the dust.
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NWO for life, brah.
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WCW beat us for 83 weeks straight.
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The NWO is the reason for the success.
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Of Monday Nitro.
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WCW was catering to that 18 to 34 -year
-old male demographic.
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Everything they did seemed to work.
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We didn't have that yet.
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The WWE product in the mid -1990s was a
cartoon.
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It was aimed at young people.
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Wrestling fans around the world, that's
just not what they wanted.
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We couldn't sell any tickets.
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They're on fire.
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Yeah. They're the innovators.
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We're not.
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And they're kicking our ass.
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Back then, you know, you are true blue
WWE.
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You get that loyalty, you know what I
mean? And that's kind of a thing. But
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you see this other side of these guys
doing their thing over here.
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You're captivated by it.
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I remember one time we were flying back
from Nitro. It was Hulk, me, Scott,
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Eric.
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Randy, and all of us have worked for
Vince.
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We're all drinking and laughing, and
Bischoff said, I'm going to put him out
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business. It's just like... And Hogan's
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the first one. Hogan goes, you'll never
put that man out of business.
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You're looking at a company where top
stars are leaving to go there, and the
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tide shifts.
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and all of a sudden you have to recreate
from what you have left.
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Guys, what we'll be doing is some of
you, I think, are in this last meeting
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I had in terms of where we're going with
our product.
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To give us more of an edge, one of the
things we're doing is putting more sex
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appeal into our product.
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When we really made the change and
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dove in headfirst, there was no turning
back.
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We are Degeneration X. You make your
rules and we will break them.
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Yeah.
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Shawn Michaels and Hunter Hearst
Helmsley started gesturing to their
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became Degeneration X.
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Took on a life of its own.
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You're not going to tell us what to do.
You're not going to tell us what we can
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say. You're not going to tell us how to
dress.
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We're going to tell you to suck it.
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Shawn and I both got jumbo weenies.
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I don't think you saw yourself hanging
out with the NWO. You saw yourself
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hanging out with DX.
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It resonated in the same voice of kind
of a culture and where it was at at the
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time. Surely the era of the superhero
who urged you to say your prayers and
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your vitamins is definitely passe.
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We encourage some degree of parental
discretion as it relates to the younger
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audience allowed to stay up late.
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When he committed to, okay, we're
leaving the kid stuff behind, now we're
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into this, hell yeah.
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Product needed to change and be more
realistic.
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Hence the birth of the Attitude Era.
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We're going to push it. We're going to
walk to the line, may step over it, and
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we're going to try and move that line a
little bit as well.
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Wait a minute. This is going entirely
too far.
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The Attitude Era represented the seismic
shift into a more edgier program.
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It was such a unique time in the
business. And there was one man in
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who was responsible for ushering in the
Attitude Era, and that man was Stone
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Cold Steve Austin.
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Steve Austin does what he wants, when he
wants. And that's the bottom line for
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Stone Cold Simpson.
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The style of delivery was so much
different than other wrestling promos.
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only thing that I'll deliver is a big
can of whoop -ass right to your front
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door.
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Austin is entertaining as hell.
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He's impactful.
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Steve was unique and he was special. And
what that did just in terms of moving
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the needle and raising the bar.
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Austin 316 says I just whipped your ass.
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Tune in next week. Same Stone Cold time,
same Stone Cold channel.
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I knew that we were in competition with
WCW, and I felt very competitive with
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them. It's like, hey, man, these guys.
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Monday Night Raw began to have a little
bit more of an edge, and I began to
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notice it, but it didn't really concern
me too much.
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Until Mike Tyson showed up.
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Mike Tyson was at the time one of the
biggest
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celebrities on the face of the planet
and certainly the baddest man on the
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of the planet.
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Mike Tyson in a WWF ring. This is big,
ladies and gentlemen.
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I went, oh, that's going to sting.
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Mike Tyson brings a lot of eyeballs from
boxing and mainstream media and
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everywhere in the world to what we do.
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To see Mike Tyson go nose to nose with
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Stone Cold Steve Austin, that was very
interesting.
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You're messing with Stone Cold Steve
Austin, and that's something you don't
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I
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sat
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there and I said, oh, my God, they got
it.
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They figured it out.
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That was the first time that I knew we
were in for a real fight.
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Vince realized from the numbers that
people were not watching Raw like they
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to. What does Vince do is he takes the
number one pay -per -view name, Mike
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Tyson, and puts him into WrestleMania.
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I would like to thank Mike Tyson being
the media magnet that he is.
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This is what I love to do. I love
wrestling.
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And I was just so happy to be involved
with that.
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I'm happy with the WWF. I'm very happy.
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Mike Tyson is the hottest thing in
sports.
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With Mike there, it'll draw more
attention to the athleticism and the
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showmanship of the athletes in the World
Wrestling Federation.
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Get ready. The World Wrestling
Federation title at stake. And the
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baddest man on the planet, Mike Tyson.
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Austin, he got it. The standard.
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Mike Tyson in.
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Austin is the champion.
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The Austin era.
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I think the Mike Tyson, Steve Austin
storyline and the way it was
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presented was so believable that not
only set up Steve Austin, but it
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the Mr. McMahon character in such a
credible, believable way.
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Nobody, especially Vince McMahon, tells
Stone Cold Steve Austin what to do, and
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that's the bottom line.
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All of a sudden, it wasn't just about
wrestling.
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It was about this guy against his boss.
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McMahon, 316, says, I just pissed my
pants.
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If you want to see Austin McMahon, give
me a hell yeah.
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Just brought viewers in.
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Austin and McMahon turned the tide for
WWE.
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I can't believe what we're about to
witness.
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And WWE started winning the ratings.
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You know, you've heard the saying, all
boats rise with a high tide.
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WWE, WCW was at its highest tide.
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Welcome to WWF Raw.
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We are absolutely sold out.
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All my friends would come over. And so
we would just be like flipping back and
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forth, flipping back and forth.
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I mean, arenas are full.
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Everybody's household names.
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Sting is heavyweight champion of the
world.
439
00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:15,920
Greatest time, I think, in the history
of wrestling.
440
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:23,260
This was two mega companies going head
to head
441
00:29:23,260 --> 00:29:24,260
with one another.
442
00:29:24,420 --> 00:29:28,200
The wrestling universe got bigger than
it had ever been before. I mean, there
443
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,340
were millions and millions of people
watching every night.
444
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,080
The mailman, Karl Malone.
445
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:37,660
Teaming with Diamond Dallas Page against
a tandem of Hollywood Hogan and Dennis
446
00:29:37,660 --> 00:29:39,940
Rodman. Jay Leno in command.
447
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,760
Bullseye.
448
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:48,500
I feel like NWO was really cool at one
point. And then Austin and DX kind of
449
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:53,660
made WWE cool. So WCW now needed an
answer to that. Who was their answer?
450
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,320
Goldberg.
451
00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:05,580
And Goldberg just went on a streak of
just beating people's ass.
452
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,700
It was completely different. It was
shock and awe.
453
00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:14,200
What you see is what you get.
454
00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:19,640
It was perfect.
455
00:30:21,540 --> 00:30:23,580
The amount of rivalry.
456
00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:29,790
that WCW and WWE had at that moment in
that time. They would throw jabs at each
457
00:30:29,790 --> 00:30:31,150
other live on television.
458
00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:34,470
Me and you, McMahon, in the ring.
459
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:40,090
You didn't see the Red Sox or the
Yankees doing that. It really was a
460
00:30:40,090 --> 00:30:42,690
rivalry. And I'm going to knock you out.
461
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,820
WCW is now going in and actively going
in and trying to hurt business. They're
462
00:30:48,820 --> 00:30:52,100
going in and we book TV in a venue and
our stuff is announced earlier.
463
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:56,380
They shift and they book the scope right
just down the road and things are
464
00:30:56,380 --> 00:30:59,620
thrown out. Like we should go down there
and do something live in their parking
465
00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:02,580
lot or just like get that attention on
it.
466
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:10,620
Ladies and gentlemen, we are the number
one wrestling promotion in the world.
467
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:18,300
Oh, my gosh. We're talking about it
being the Monday Night Wars, and here's
468
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:23,360
driving up outside their arena while
their show is going on. That's just
469
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,320
something that had never been done
before.
470
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,680
It was so, like, holy.
471
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,500
WCW! There's a bunch of powers!
472
00:31:33,159 --> 00:31:36,740
Someone came to your house trying to
fight. You closed the drapes. They
473
00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:40,080
that door because they knew Scott and I
were trying to get out that door.
474
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:46,000
From watching it as a fan, it just
looked like, oh, my God, they just came
475
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,560
the doorstep. Yeah, let's do it. This is
going down right now.
476
00:31:50,740 --> 00:31:56,660
There was a 68 -year -old man running
that door, and we're like, open the
477
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,340
Open the door, because all I'm thinking
of, I'm going to walk on raw here in a
478
00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:02,340
minute.
479
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000
It's about to go down.
480
00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:06,520
Something's about to go down. We don't
know what it is, but we're going to be a
481
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,860
part of it. That's how crazy it was. And
then nothing.
482
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:10,900
Nothing.
483
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,620
Tell me who knows professional
wrestling.
484
00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:21,240
I remember there was a moment where
Bruce Prichard had said, what if they
485
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,280
bunch of guys in a car and they come
here and they try to do the same thing
486
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,300
to us and they just shoot it and they
put it on the show next week and what do
487
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:27,839
we do?
488
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,840
And Vince was like.
489
00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:31,610
Open up the garage doors. Let them in.
What show are you going to watch? The
490
00:32:31,610 --> 00:32:33,210
with all the wrestlers or the one with
none of the wrestlers?
491
00:32:33,650 --> 00:32:36,510
Let them go right to the ring. They
drive straight out there to the ring,
492
00:32:36,510 --> 00:32:37,429
they will all come out.
493
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:39,090
That's the greatest TV ever.
494
00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:42,050
And I remember thinking at that moment,
like, this is why we're going to win.
495
00:32:42,170 --> 00:32:43,170
Like, that's genius.
496
00:32:48,730 --> 00:32:53,410
40 ,000 fans are on hand for WCW Monday
Night Raw.
497
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:56,150
There's nothing like a good battle.
498
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:59,960
It was not only the creative battle that
took place between the characters
499
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,880
inside of the ring, it was the battle
between two companies.
500
00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:07,640
I suggested to Tony Schiavone that he
give away the finish to Monday Night Raw
501
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,120
and kind of downplay it. If you're even
thinking about changing the channel to
502
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,940
our competition, fans do not. I hear
Tony Schiavone tell their viewers not to
503
00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:23,220
even think about changing the channels.
We understand that Mick Foley is going
504
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:24,520
to win their world title.
505
00:33:25,690 --> 00:33:27,170
It's going to put some butts in the
seat.
506
00:33:28,150 --> 00:33:31,610
They're taped, and here's what happens.
So you might as well stick around here.
507
00:33:31,670 --> 00:33:35,890
That was the idea. And it worked very,
very well all the way up until the night
508
00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:41,450
I tried it with The Rock and Mick Foley
because a lot of my audience went, oh,
509
00:33:41,510 --> 00:33:44,010
really? Rock, Mick Foley? I'm going to
go check that out.
510
00:33:44,290 --> 00:33:49,650
So Rock's against Mankind, and the odds
are stacked against Mick Foley.
511
00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:54,510
Five to six hundred thousand people had
switched channels instantaneously.
512
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,440
Foley was so beloved, and it backfired
on Nitro.
513
00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:08,500
Sometimes things work really, really
well, and sometimes they suck.
514
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000
That one sucked.
515
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,159
Did you watch Raw?
516
00:34:12,659 --> 00:34:13,659
Yes.
517
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,900
I watched every Monday.
518
00:34:16,420 --> 00:34:21,239
Back then, we would have our show, and
then we would have the Raw show, both
519
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,940
monitors. What the hell?
520
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,840
Steve was such a megastar and Rock was
such a megastar.
521
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:40,280
But when you
522
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,400
watched the landscape of sports
entertainment at that time, from the
523
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,699
show started, everybody was a star.
524
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:50,639
Every Monday was Woodstock.
525
00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:05,520
To go up against this thing, that's what
I just said back. I went, I'm so glad I
526
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,520
got guaranteed money.
527
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:11,160
This is ridiculous.
528
00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:16,640
At WCW, for the first time in a year and
a half, two years, almost three, we're
529
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,640
playing catch -up.
530
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:24,680
For a while, it felt more like, oh, WWE
guys are jumping ship to go there.
531
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:28,260
And when it started becoming the
opposite, that was pretty exciting as a
532
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:29,380
for sure.
533
00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:37,180
Jericho's Tron hits, and I lose my mind.
My dad's like, got to work in the
534
00:35:37,180 --> 00:35:40,680
morning. I wake him up. I'm just losing
my mind. It just felt like a really big
535
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,680
deal.
536
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,860
That one stung.
537
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,180
When you start losing key talent at the
same time you're losing ground
538
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:50,740
competitively, it's kind of a double
whammy.
539
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,760
I fell out of WWF for about a year, saw
it now. I just got back in. I think it's
540
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,040
the best thing in sports entertainment.
541
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,860
Fans started to realize how much.
542
00:36:01,310 --> 00:36:03,390
was really happening on Monday Night
Raw.
543
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:10,610
And when they changed the channel, they
didn't change back.
544
00:36:16,110 --> 00:36:22,810
WWE has always
545
00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:27,810
greatly benefited by having one genius
in charge of everything.
546
00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:33,080
In WCW, they were part of a much larger
corporation, which was Time Warner.
547
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:37,900
We are very excited about joining forces
with Time Warner because we share a
548
00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:39,560
common vision for the future.
549
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:45,260
The subsequent AOL -Time Warner merger
with Turner created a lot of radical
550
00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:47,280
changes within Turner Broadcasting.
551
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,080
People within Turner Broadcasting didn't
want WCW in that primetime real estate
552
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,480
position on Monday night on TNT. They
wanted those time slots for movies.
553
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:03,500
Everybody looked down their nose at
wrestling, with the exception of Ted. He
554
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,480
been relegated to a back office with a
view and absolutely no influence.
555
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,960
WCW was in shambles at that point.
556
00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:17,220
The people at AOL Time Warner, they
weren't wrestling fans, and they wanted
557
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:19,780
get rid of that property, the WCW
property.
558
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:26,420
We made an offer, and it was, look,
we're going to buy certain assets. We'll
559
00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:27,420
a library.
560
00:37:27,710 --> 00:37:30,910
We'll take a look at your contracts. If
there's any contracts we may want to
561
00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:35,310
pick up, we'll pick up some of them. We
had a real cash offer on the table that
562
00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:38,310
could be done like that, and they took
it.
563
00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:48,530
Many of you may already know that WCW
has new owners.
564
00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:50,690
We couldn't believe it.
565
00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:52,550
Somebody's going out of business.
566
00:37:53,250 --> 00:37:54,490
And at the end...
567
00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:59,190
We realized that WWE had won, and we
were staying there with them, and we had
568
00:37:59,190 --> 00:38:00,930
been with them through the thick and
thin.
569
00:38:01,170 --> 00:38:05,490
I mean, it was a pretty, I don't know,
euphoric, because we didn't dislike the
570
00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:08,430
boys down there. Of course. They were
us. Of course. They were us. They were
571
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:12,430
friends. The fans weren't the ones who
were fighting. We were just enjoying all
572
00:38:12,430 --> 00:38:16,950
of the product that we were getting to
see. It wasn't like, oh, good job, WWE,
573
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:20,190
you won. It's like, ah, this is one less
product that I get to watch now.
574
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:23,070
Because the whole time was a double
agent with Vince. Of course.
575
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:30,130
Imagine that. Me, Vince McMahon.
576
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:33,750
Here I am on WCW television.
577
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,410
How can that happen?
578
00:38:37,230 --> 00:38:38,490
Rival networks.
579
00:38:38,770 --> 00:38:42,210
And we were simulcasting this thing.
Huge deal.
580
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:49,350
Here's WCW. And here we have the owner
of the World
581
00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:50,350
Wrestling Federation.
582
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:52,750
And now.
583
00:38:53,470 --> 00:38:56,810
The owner of WCW.
584
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:59,910
The Monday Night Wars are over.
585
00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:02,230
Strong's passion won out.
586
00:39:02,490 --> 00:39:05,910
Time Warner had no skin in the game.
They didn't care. They hated the
587
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:09,630
and wanted to get rid of it. We loved
our property. We love what we do. And
588
00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:10,630
was the difference.
589
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:12,710
Shane McMahon is on nitro.
590
00:39:13,070 --> 00:39:18,270
The decision was to let Shane go down
and shock Vince and say that he had
591
00:39:18,270 --> 00:39:19,270
WCW.
592
00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:20,830
The name.
593
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:23,260
on the contract does say McMahon.
594
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:28,480
However, the contract reads Shane
McMahon.
595
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,020
Oh, my God!
596
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,760
The storyline was my brother against my
dad, but in reality, it was the moment
597
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,800
that we knew WCW was done.
598
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:43,180
WWE didn't buy WCW.
599
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:48,400
WWE bought the assets of WCW, bought the
tape library, bought the intellectual
600
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,400
properties.
601
00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:51,220
Smart purchase.
602
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,100
You have to grab your competition by the
throat and you've got to squeeze the
603
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,700
life out of your competition.
604
00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:00,700
Just like I did to WCW.
605
00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:07,780
In the end, WWE put the boots to WCW and
we wound up winning
606
00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:08,678
the war.
607
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,060
The landscape of our industry is pink.
608
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,180
As a fan, the idea that you're
experienced watching wrestling on a
609
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:23,630
was never going to be the same again was
a tough pill to swallow.
610
00:40:24,430 --> 00:40:28,970
I remember one guy crying, and he was
like, man, it's the final night.
611
00:40:29,170 --> 00:40:30,310
What are you going to do, book?
612
00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:31,970
I was like, man, I'm going to WWE.
613
00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:38,630
Flair, Sting, Hogan, the NWO.
614
00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:42,890
Those contracts were paying so much
money to people just to sit at home.
615
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:45,210
I didn't get Sting versus Austin.
616
00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:47,570
Flair versus The Rock.
617
00:40:48,490 --> 00:40:50,210
The NWO versus DX.
618
00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:52,890
Didn't get the dream matches I wanted.
619
00:40:53,330 --> 00:40:55,630
Until 10, 15 years later.
620
00:40:57,670 --> 00:41:02,890
Sting's first ever appearance on the
grandest stage of all, WrestleMania.
621
00:41:03,970 --> 00:41:07,910
You know, there had been periods of time
when there had been overtures of Sting
622
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:10,410
to come in, and they had been shut down.
623
00:41:10,850 --> 00:41:16,090
When Sting finally signed to come in, we
ended up making the match with me and
624
00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:17,090
him.
625
00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:23,510
I was sitting in the third row for
WrestleMania 31. To see him in the ring
626
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:28,030
-to -face with Triple H, who is a symbol
for everything that WWE is, is enough
627
00:41:28,030 --> 00:41:29,690
of a mind -blowing moment.
628
00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:33,730
But then halfway through the match, the
NWO music plays.
629
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:35,950
The DX music plays.
630
00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:48,320
And you're like, oh, my God, this is all
happening right in front of me all
631
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,560
these years later.
632
00:41:50,740 --> 00:41:55,540
Like the Monday Night War is still
happening.
633
00:41:55,900 --> 00:42:00,600
What an absolutely incredible moment.
History of the making tonight in
634
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,880
WrestleMania. These two great, iconic,
legendary groups that people will
635
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,500
remember as long as their sports
entertainment in the world. They finally
636
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,200
up. To me, it was just a magical moment.
637
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:18,040
When the match was over, we kind of all
just stood there in the ring, and Sting
638
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,540
and I sort of shook hands, and it was,
we all did this war, it's all over, and
639
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:24,700
to me, that's what made it work.
640
00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:30,020
The rivalry between WCW and WWE, the
Monday Night Wars, it completely changed
641
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:31,060
the wrestling industry.
642
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:38,300
That was a great time for television.
643
00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:39,840
It was hot.
644
00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:44,530
There will be nothing like this ever
again. The two number one rated shows on
645
00:42:44,530 --> 00:42:47,930
two networks, and they're fighting each
other on live television.
646
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:57,870
The battle between WCW and WWE was real.
People gravitated towards it. It
647
00:42:57,870 --> 00:43:00,210
doesn't matter what your name is.
648
00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:05,610
It was the right time and the right
companies going head to head. It stands
649
00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:07,870
test of time. We're still talking about
it to this day.
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