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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,300 I got a hell of an idea. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,740 Consider this an open invitation, Vince McMahon. 3 00:00:13,340 --> 00:00:16,120 How do you describe the Monday Night Wars? 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:22,920 The Yankees can't stand the Boston Red Sox. Well, in wrestling, we have WWE 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,740 and WCW. 6 00:00:25,260 --> 00:00:28,160 Hulkamania lives in world championship wrestling. 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,960 We just want to be as successful as Vince is. 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,760 And then we'd like to, you know, kick his butt. 9 00:00:36,140 --> 00:00:37,880 He was there to try to put Vince out of business. 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,860 They beat us for 83 weeks straight. 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,080 We fought back. 12 00:00:42,660 --> 00:00:47,540 I felt very competitive with him. It's like, hey, man, he's guys. 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,760 This is going entirely too far. 14 00:00:50,460 --> 00:00:52,780 Such a unique time in the business. 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,620 Everything had an edge. It was kind of like the cool thing to do. 16 00:00:57,060 --> 00:00:58,340 Mike Tyson! 17 00:00:59,980 --> 00:01:04,599 You don't know what's going to happen next and you don't want to miss it. It 18 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:08,820 a legit rivalry and competition between two companies. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,480 You want a war? 20 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:12,740 You're going to get one. 21 00:01:15,260 --> 00:01:18,960 This rivalry has just escalated into a war. 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:25,720 When two legends collide, their rivalry stays pinned in our minds forever. 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,540 This is where we break down the legendary stories behind the greatest 24 00:01:31,540 --> 00:01:32,540 of all time. 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,280 I'm Freddie Prinze Jr., and this is WWE Rivals. 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,980 This was the craziest time in wrestling that I had ever experienced as a fan. 27 00:01:49,140 --> 00:01:52,440 We're going to discuss WCW and WWE. 28 00:01:53,130 --> 00:01:56,070 As a fan, you're getting like the best of both worlds to where you're taping 29 00:01:56,070 --> 00:01:59,930 Nitro on the VCR in one room and then in the other room you're watching live 30 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:03,230 because you can't go back and watch both. Otherwise, you're missing the key 31 00:02:03,230 --> 00:02:04,189 points of the story. 32 00:02:04,190 --> 00:02:10,710 So I feel like it was just such a good job of really trying to honor, I guess, 33 00:02:10,729 --> 00:02:14,470 the customer or the viewer by putting out like good stuff. 34 00:02:15,710 --> 00:02:19,530 So, John, I'm wondering if you can sort of put into perspective, how did this 35 00:02:19,530 --> 00:02:20,359 come about? 36 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,580 Sure, it's because of television. 37 00:02:21,820 --> 00:02:24,960 Television was regional, and they were talking about going national because 38 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,360 saw what was coming with national television and knew somebody was going 39 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,360 it. Hello, everyone. This is Vince McMahon in the studios of the USA Cable 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,740 Network. We wholeheartedly welcome you to the premiere of All -American 41 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:38,740 Wrestling. 42 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:41,660 Vince is the guy that is going national. 43 00:02:41,980 --> 00:02:43,580 Welcome to wrestling. 44 00:02:50,350 --> 00:02:55,310 But guys weren't able to beat Vince at it. And the one guy that's left is Jim 45 00:02:55,310 --> 00:03:00,030 Crockett in the Carolinas. And Jim Crockett sells to Ted Turner. 46 00:03:00,570 --> 00:03:05,030 So this is the last battle of the territories in the United States. 47 00:03:06,090 --> 00:03:10,130 I want to congratulate World Championship Wrestling for continuing 48 00:03:10,130 --> 00:03:13,810 of bringing action -packed wrestling excitement to PBS. 49 00:03:14,990 --> 00:03:20,370 The reason that I got involved from an ownership standpoint is that I had a 50 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:22,690 vision that eventually would be successful with it. 51 00:03:23,470 --> 00:03:27,090 WCW was the distant number two to WWE. 52 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:30,790 Nobody ever thought it would be competitive to WWE. 53 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:34,010 We just want to be as successful as Vince is. 54 00:03:34,210 --> 00:03:36,950 And then we'd like to, you know, kick his butt. 55 00:03:42,350 --> 00:03:46,710 Monday Night Raw, starting on the USA Network in 1993, was revolutionary. 56 00:03:47,090 --> 00:03:53,070 Prior to that, shows felt very canned and put together. The launch of Raw sort 57 00:03:53,070 --> 00:03:56,390 of completely changed sports entertainment. 58 00:03:56,890 --> 00:04:03,610 The live nature of it, the sort of anything can happen 59 00:04:03,610 --> 00:04:05,310 quickness of it. 60 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,660 There was a magic to that show, and the way it was presented, that sort of was a 61 00:04:15,660 --> 00:04:16,659 game changer. 62 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:23,520 Back then, Vince was moving in a different direction. 63 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,300 Vince was moving to younger wrestlers at the time, and it was like a youth 64 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:28,300 movement. 65 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:34,960 And it just seemed like the perfect time for us to mutually part ways. 66 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,820 When I did Thunder in Paradise, 67 00:04:39,010 --> 00:04:44,230 On the soundstage next to me where I was filming was Ted Turner's WCW. 68 00:04:45,090 --> 00:04:48,690 Eric Bischoff started coming over, and he started bringing Ric Flair with him, 69 00:04:48,730 --> 00:04:51,410 going, hey, Hulk, we want you to come back and be part of wrestling. I said, 70 00:04:51,410 --> 00:04:52,410 way. 71 00:04:52,470 --> 00:04:54,450 This went on for a good five or six months. 72 00:04:54,930 --> 00:05:00,630 I missed wrestling so much, the filing I caved, and basically went to work for 73 00:05:00,630 --> 00:05:01,469 Ted Turner. 74 00:05:01,470 --> 00:05:05,710 I told you Hulkamania was going to run wild in the WCW, brother. 75 00:05:06,030 --> 00:05:07,690 Look at all the Hulkamaniacs. 76 00:05:09,830 --> 00:05:16,790 That was the first blow of like, hmm, now they're taking established 77 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:22,130 stars from the WWE and bringing them into WCW. That's going to get them 78 00:05:22,830 --> 00:05:25,910 Hulkamania lives in world championship wrestling. 79 00:05:26,290 --> 00:05:31,510 The first night on a pay -per -view, it had much more traction than they'd had 80 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:35,110 ever. One man, one champion, the only champion in the world today. 81 00:05:35,630 --> 00:05:38,890 Everybody double -bobbed and said, whoa, what's going on over here? And made 82 00:05:38,890 --> 00:05:40,470 everybody look and not look away. 83 00:05:41,130 --> 00:05:44,070 And then from there, it was Randy Savage. 84 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:49,150 I'm here for only one reason, and that's to take it to the limit, yeah. 85 00:05:51,010 --> 00:05:54,150 Machen Kogan came in. It was huge. 86 00:05:55,070 --> 00:06:00,290 All these wrestlers that we used to watch growing up were now going to a 87 00:06:00,290 --> 00:06:04,850 different place of business to work for someone else that we never thought we'd 88 00:06:04,850 --> 00:06:05,850 see before. 89 00:06:05,890 --> 00:06:11,350 Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage had been established as the two biggest 90 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:13,750 stars in all of sports entertainment. 91 00:06:14,110 --> 00:06:18,170 So the idea that they were on another channel wrestling for another company 92 00:06:18,170 --> 00:06:22,310 instantly gave that company credibility and gave that company eyeballs. 93 00:06:23,180 --> 00:06:27,440 Without a shadow of a doubt, this is where the big boys play. 94 00:06:28,980 --> 00:06:30,820 Look, they were outvincing Vince. 95 00:06:31,220 --> 00:06:33,500 You know, you look at what Vince did at WrestleMania 1. 96 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,340 He poaches Piper. He brings in Liberace. He brings in Muhammad Ali. 97 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:40,620 They were doing the same things. 98 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,960 The Hulk stars in the ring! 99 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,040 High five Shaquille O 'Neal! 100 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,000 They poached Hogan. They bring in the celebrities. 101 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,180 This was his most formidable opponent by far. 102 00:06:54,060 --> 00:06:56,140 We'd like to make an announcement today. 103 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,860 WCW Monday Nitro live on PNT will be seen Monday night. 104 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,460 The first time I heard about Nitro going head -to -head with us, I thought they 105 00:07:04,460 --> 00:07:05,239 were crazy. 106 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:11,120 Why wouldn't you go on a different day where you have an opportunity to have 107 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,120 of the audience? 108 00:07:12,180 --> 00:07:15,700 I wanted to go on Monday night because I wanted to go head -to -head with Vince. 109 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,680 You can't beat anybody unless you get in the ring with them. 110 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,420 We want to give viewers a choice. We believe we've got the biggest stars in 111 00:07:22,420 --> 00:07:27,920 industry. When WCW made the decision to go head -to -head Monday night, that was 112 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,440 absolutely an act of war. It was real competition. 113 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,060 Same time spot, one channel apart. 114 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,400 Buckle your seatbelt because it's going to be a bumpy, bumpy ride. 115 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,280 Everyone in the Minneapolis -St. Paul area getting ready for Monday Nitro on 116 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,280 this Monday night. Check your local listings. It's coming your way. 117 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,480 I had just finished doing probably about six months worth of research. 118 00:07:56,700 --> 00:08:01,520 I traveled all over the country, sitting in different focus groups. The element 119 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,880 of surprise is one of the things that I kept hearing. 120 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,300 And I've got the inside track on a scorching rumor that has a very 121 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:13,360 wrestling superstar about to sign with World Championship Wrestling. 122 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,240 Lex Luger was one of WWE's biggest stars. 123 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,660 Lex Luger's contract had expired. 124 00:08:20,799 --> 00:08:26,120 Lex didn't let anybody in WWE know that his contract was coming up, and somehow 125 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,900 WWE just let it slip between their fingertips. 126 00:08:30,020 --> 00:08:34,500 As we were getting closer and closer to the debut at Nitro, Lex came to me and 127 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:36,559 he said, look, my contract is up Sunday. 128 00:08:37,659 --> 00:08:39,960 And I thought, whoa, huh. 129 00:08:40,900 --> 00:08:41,900 Lex, it's Eric. 130 00:08:42,380 --> 00:08:43,500 I got an idea. 131 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,840 What a matchup we have got in store in this debut broadcast. 132 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,120 What in the hell is he doing here? 133 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:59,400 Lex came in. That was like, whoa. 134 00:09:00,180 --> 00:09:01,920 He had jumped ship. 135 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,420 People are freaking out. 136 00:09:03,740 --> 00:09:09,160 Really helped set us up for great success because there was already 137 00:09:09,620 --> 00:09:12,380 Now we have the opportunity to really surprise people. 138 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,460 Well, you said things were going to happen every Monday night, Bishop, and 139 00:09:16,460 --> 00:09:20,060 happening. It was definitely a big shocker for wrestling fans. 140 00:09:20,420 --> 00:09:21,980 How is this happening? 141 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,020 Wait, Luger's in there! What is this? 142 00:09:24,260 --> 00:09:25,260 In the ring! 143 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,880 It was such a shocker to everyone. It was a big deal. 144 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,060 Lex Luger has come from out of nowhere! 145 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:35,560 It was going to be different, and it was never going to be the same ever again. 146 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,360 This is the most amazing turn of events I have ever seen. 147 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,720 It worked magically. 148 00:09:41,180 --> 00:09:42,240 Didn't it, Bruce Prichard? 149 00:09:43,420 --> 00:09:45,080 Damn, how did that happen? 150 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,260 I am sick and tired of playing around with kids. 151 00:09:50,660 --> 00:09:54,820 I'm here to get it on with the big boys, and that means you. 152 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,140 It was electric. I mean, this is our opportunity to gain some more momentum. 153 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,940 I know where you've been, brother. 154 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:07,120 It told everybody that you have to tune into Nitro every week because you don't 155 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,020 know what's going to happen next, and you don't want to miss it. 156 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,740 Okay, we're going to compete. Let's go. We're in a fight. Let's go fight. 157 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:26,100 Last week, debut edition of Nitro. We saw Lex 158 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:30,020 Luger stunning the world, making his appearance here. 159 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:36,060 That Lex Luger moment, it had a lot more to do with Nitro's success, in its 160 00:10:36,060 --> 00:10:38,320 early success, than almost anything. 161 00:10:38,860 --> 00:10:40,000 because it set the tone. 162 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Here's this new show coming out to compete with Monday Night Raw, head -to 163 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,160 -head, and we're doing things that nobody else in the wrestling business 164 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:49,939 ever done. 165 00:10:49,940 --> 00:10:55,900 At the time, Monday Night Raw was recorded live every other week, and they 166 00:10:55,900 --> 00:11:00,660 live every week, and they would often give spoilers as to what was going to 167 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:01,760 happen on our tape shows. 168 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,840 In case you're tempted to grab the remote control, check out the 169 00:11:06,420 --> 00:11:07,420 Don't bother. 170 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,240 Shawn Michaels beat the big guy with a super kick he couldn't earn a green belt 171 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,960 with in a local YMCA. 172 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,020 He wasn't there to do good business for himself. He was there to try to put 173 00:11:16,020 --> 00:11:16,999 Vince out of business. 174 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,480 He was just trying to attack Vince McMahon. That's how I'm going to get 175 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,340 recognized. Look at her. 176 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:27,560 And a hundred plays once again. The WWF Women's Champion. 177 00:11:28,750 --> 00:11:33,690 So Alundra Blaze never lost the WWE Women's Championship. But her contract 178 00:11:33,690 --> 00:11:37,350 out. And Eric Bischoff and WCW signed her right away. 179 00:11:37,570 --> 00:11:41,750 And she brought the championship belt with her to Nitro. 180 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:44,150 That indeed it is. 181 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:49,290 And that's what I think of the WWF Women's Championship belt. 182 00:11:49,490 --> 00:11:56,330 Alundra Blaze throwing that title in the garbage can. Let the WWE know that the 183 00:11:56,330 --> 00:11:57,490 gloves were off. 184 00:11:58,079 --> 00:12:03,920 Competition is one thing, but WCW, some of their tactics were a little on the 185 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:04,920 personal side. 186 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,840 Oh, Chief Covers just got sucked up on that one in Connecticut, didn't he? Wow! 187 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,500 Competition's great, and it brings out the best. It also brings out the worst 188 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:19,620 sometimes. And one thing that we had never done was acknowledge our 189 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,860 Don't acknowledge them. They don't exist. 190 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:27,160 But we were in a fight, and there are no rules in a fight. 191 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,660 I built this company by doing one thing really well. 192 00:12:32,380 --> 00:12:36,060 Buying old assets and repackaging them. 193 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:38,420 Heck, I even bought old Rafflers. 194 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,020 The billionaire Ted Skits were something we had to do. It was unorthodox. 195 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:46,620 Joining us tonight, the Hoxta and the Nacho Man. 196 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,600 Vince started doing the mockeries. 197 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,540 Not really the smartest move. 198 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,320 Because all of a sudden, the WWE wrestling fan. 199 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:03,760 who love those two guys, and you mock those two, that pissed WWE fans off. 200 00:13:04,260 --> 00:13:08,700 It kind of like made fans, we better turn WCW to see if Hulk Hogan's really 201 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:09,700 pushing the walker. 202 00:13:10,060 --> 00:13:13,520 Made people look, you know, to see if I was really that washed up. 203 00:13:14,140 --> 00:13:18,960 I was not that offended by him. I said, boy, this must be hurting to be 204 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,320 resorting to this kind of stuff. 205 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,940 We're losing guys left and right, and our business is suffering. 206 00:13:26,510 --> 00:13:32,490 We were starting to lose in the ratings more regularly, and it became clear that 207 00:13:32,490 --> 00:13:35,430 WCW had what I would call the hot hand. 208 00:13:35,730 --> 00:13:39,530 Am I in a role, or am I in a role, Bobby? You're in a role. How about it? 209 00:13:40,530 --> 00:13:42,590 When I got there, business wasn't that great. 210 00:13:42,950 --> 00:13:47,490 I can remember very distinctly being in Pittsburgh in a half -full arena, 211 00:13:47,670 --> 00:13:52,270 standing at the curtain with Austin, him saying, man, you think it'll ever be as 212 00:13:52,270 --> 00:13:53,790 big as it was like in the 80s? 213 00:13:54,270 --> 00:13:56,230 I remember one show we had like 500 people. 214 00:13:56,650 --> 00:13:58,170 That was really, really bad. 215 00:13:58,950 --> 00:14:03,470 A lot of our big guys are leaving to go to WCW. They had just kind of basically 216 00:14:03,470 --> 00:14:06,490 opened up their checkbook and said, come on down, you're not going to have to 217 00:14:06,490 --> 00:14:08,330 work much and you're going to get paid a lot of money. 218 00:14:08,830 --> 00:14:14,470 There was more money being offered than had been offered before to guys. 219 00:14:15,490 --> 00:14:17,850 The businessman in me is going, this is a good thing. 220 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:21,330 Because I'm a wrestler, so the more wrestling companies there are, the 221 00:14:21,330 --> 00:14:22,330 is for me. 222 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,940 Dallas Page, who was really good friends with Scott Hall, kind of brought a 223 00:14:26,940 --> 00:14:31,880 ballpark number of what he would get guaranteed money for half as many dates. 224 00:14:32,740 --> 00:14:38,900 So it was basically for Scott almost three times the amount of money he made 225 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:40,020 half as many dates. 226 00:14:40,860 --> 00:14:42,140 And it was guaranteed. 227 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,160 I looked over at Scott and I said, see what they'll give me. 228 00:14:51,810 --> 00:14:52,810 Dude. 229 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:56,770 Say hello to Razor Ramon. 230 00:14:57,010 --> 00:15:02,090 Razor Ramon and Diesel had been built as two of the biggest new superstars in 231 00:15:02,090 --> 00:15:07,490 WWE. They left the WWE and decided to go for big money in WCW. 232 00:15:07,830 --> 00:15:11,210 It works because, number one, the stars are aligned. 233 00:15:11,650 --> 00:15:14,030 Scott Hall walks on WCW TV. 234 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:16,110 You want a war? 235 00:15:17,770 --> 00:15:19,090 You're going to get one. 236 00:15:19,870 --> 00:15:21,010 The next week. 237 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:22,660 Kevin Nash walks on TV. 238 00:15:23,340 --> 00:15:25,500 This is where the big boys play, huh? 239 00:15:27,140 --> 00:15:32,720 You know who I am, but you don't know why I'm here. 240 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,120 They're not saying they're Razor or Diesel. 241 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Razor's got the same haircut, he's got the toothpick, it's hey -o. 242 00:15:39,660 --> 00:15:42,960 And Diesel's, you know, out there and doing big daddy cool stuff. 243 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Perception as an audience member is, are we working together? 244 00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:49,880 WWE's invading WCW, this is good stuff. 245 00:15:50,220 --> 00:15:55,820 These two rogues who think they're going to come in and take over world 246 00:15:55,820 --> 00:15:57,320 championship wrestling. 247 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:04,640 So it seemed as if WWE was invading WCW. It made it so you never wanted 248 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:10,980 to turn the channel off Nitro. The big man and the medium -sized man and 249 00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:16,920 our surprise buddy are going to carve them 250 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,120 up. 251 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Who is going to show up to WCW next? And who is going to join this invasion 252 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,160 organization that Razor and Diesel, Hall and Nash, were starting? 253 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:37,640 I want to confront you. I don't see three men here tonight. Where is your 254 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,640 partner? 255 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,780 Chico, you know too much already. 256 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:47,520 All you need to know, little man, is he's here and he's ready. 257 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,300 I thought the build -up to it, who's the third man, was huge. 258 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:52,800 It was one of the coolest things in wrestling. 259 00:16:54,060 --> 00:16:56,220 Hulkamania! Hulk Hogan is here! 260 00:16:56,460 --> 00:16:57,460 Hulk Hogan's here! 261 00:16:58,020 --> 00:17:04,599 Now, Hulk Hogan, since the early 80s, had been the ultimate hero in 262 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:08,460 wrestling. So WCW decided to shock the world. 263 00:17:16,910 --> 00:17:23,030 White meat, baby face, good guy. This was the role model for your children. 264 00:17:23,329 --> 00:17:26,550 But the act had started to get stale with wrestling fans. 265 00:17:27,630 --> 00:17:34,030 Hulk Hogan dropped the leg on 266 00:17:34,030 --> 00:17:37,790 WCW. Hulk Hogan went villain. 267 00:17:38,110 --> 00:17:43,530 Like, are you kidding me? And not only that, but literally have trash thrown at 268 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:44,590 Hulk Hogan. 269 00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:46,410 Beloved Hulk Hogan. 270 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,680 The ring filled up with so much crap. I said, oh my God, we got some heat. 271 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:58,820 As far as I'm concerned, all this crap in the ring represents these 272 00:17:58,820 --> 00:17:59,920 fans out here. 273 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,660 You fans can stick it, brother. 274 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,940 All you fans can stick it, brother. Like, what a moment in wrestling 275 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,220 This right here is the future of wrestling. 276 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,600 You can call this the New World Order of Wrestling, brother. 277 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:28,100 He's like, I'm bigger than WWE, and I'm going to make this company bigger than 278 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:32,620 you. That fuse was lit. Oh. And it was a short fuse. 279 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,500 Yeah. And when it blew up, you guys took over. 280 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,760 The following announcement has been paid for by the New World Order. 281 00:18:43,180 --> 00:18:48,320 Well, you talk about the money. You talk about beating people up. Well, it's the 282 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,240 New World Order. And I hope it's okay because there's nothing you can do about 283 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,860 it. The NWO became the most popular thing in sports entertainment. The anti 284 00:18:58,860 --> 00:19:02,480 -heroes that everybody was craving in that era. 285 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Here's the NWO. 286 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:08,080 Ready or not, here we come. 287 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,560 They were so hot. They kind of like redefined wrestling. 288 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:15,780 Be a spray painting on the video truck. 289 00:19:16,060 --> 00:19:17,880 Oh, you're talking about a bunch of cowards. 290 00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:19,980 They were supposed to be the bad guys. 291 00:19:20,220 --> 00:19:21,220 Oh, no! 292 00:19:21,540 --> 00:19:23,320 But they were too cool to be bad. 293 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,380 Everybody here just can't get enough of the 294 00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:31,160 NWO. 295 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,980 And so you're kind of wondering what's going to happen next week. Who's going 296 00:19:35,980 --> 00:19:37,760 be the next guy in the NWO? 297 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,560 I guess we're getting the official coronation of the newest member of the 298 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,560 world order. 299 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,280 Culturally, the most influential thing that was happening was West Coast wrath. 300 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,760 I remember Hogan saying, well, where'd you guys get that for life at? I said, 301 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,660 it's at the beginning of Mac 10. 302 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,280 All we did was just took all these different little culture things and kind 303 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,700 integrated them and just ran with it. It kind of matched what was really going 304 00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:06,660 on in society where everything had an edge. 305 00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:11,330 And NWO fell right in that pocket with what was cool and acceptable. 306 00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:14,750 You gotta love this. 307 00:20:15,170 --> 00:20:21,030 Once the NWO emerged, that train just took off and left everybody, including 308 00:20:21,030 --> 00:20:22,350 Monday Night Raw, in the dust. 309 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:27,370 NWO for life, brah. 310 00:20:29,290 --> 00:20:32,050 WCW beat us for 83 weeks straight. 311 00:20:32,410 --> 00:20:36,290 The NWO is the reason for the success. 312 00:20:36,990 --> 00:20:38,190 Of Monday Nitro. 313 00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:44,130 WCW was catering to that 18 to 34 -year -old male demographic. 314 00:20:45,030 --> 00:20:46,790 Everything they did seemed to work. 315 00:20:47,050 --> 00:20:48,670 We didn't have that yet. 316 00:20:49,330 --> 00:20:54,170 The WWE product in the mid -1990s was a cartoon. 317 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:59,470 It was aimed at young people. 318 00:21:01,470 --> 00:21:05,630 Wrestling fans around the world, that's just not what they wanted. 319 00:21:08,510 --> 00:21:10,070 We couldn't sell any tickets. 320 00:21:10,410 --> 00:21:11,410 They're on fire. 321 00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:12,890 Yeah. They're the innovators. 322 00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:14,270 We're not. 323 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:16,030 And they're kicking our ass. 324 00:21:16,430 --> 00:21:19,130 Back then, you know, you are true blue WWE. 325 00:21:19,570 --> 00:21:22,750 You get that loyalty, you know what I mean? And that's kind of a thing. But 326 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:25,910 you see this other side of these guys doing their thing over here. 327 00:21:26,290 --> 00:21:27,810 You're captivated by it. 328 00:21:28,170 --> 00:21:33,370 I remember one time we were flying back from Nitro. It was Hulk, me, Scott, 329 00:21:33,730 --> 00:21:34,730 Eric. 330 00:21:35,140 --> 00:21:37,780 Randy, and all of us have worked for Vince. 331 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,120 We're all drinking and laughing, and Bischoff said, I'm going to put him out 332 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:51,080 business. It's just like... And Hogan's 333 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,080 the first one. Hogan goes, you'll never put that man out of business. 334 00:21:55,780 --> 00:22:01,920 You're looking at a company where top stars are leaving to go there, and the 335 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,220 tide shifts. 336 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,380 and all of a sudden you have to recreate from what you have left. 337 00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:14,160 Guys, what we'll be doing is some of you, I think, are in this last meeting 338 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,020 I had in terms of where we're going with our product. 339 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,800 To give us more of an edge, one of the things we're doing is putting more sex 340 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,380 appeal into our product. 341 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:29,460 When we really made the change and 342 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:32,720 dove in headfirst, there was no turning back. 343 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,480 We are Degeneration X. You make your rules and we will break them. 344 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,800 Yeah. 345 00:22:39,980 --> 00:22:45,540 Shawn Michaels and Hunter Hearst Helmsley started gesturing to their 346 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,620 became Degeneration X. 347 00:22:49,420 --> 00:22:51,100 Took on a life of its own. 348 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:54,080 You're not going to tell us what to do. You're not going to tell us what we can 349 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,800 say. You're not going to tell us how to dress. 350 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,300 We're going to tell you to suck it. 351 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,160 Shawn and I both got jumbo weenies. 352 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,670 I don't think you saw yourself hanging out with the NWO. You saw yourself 353 00:23:03,670 --> 00:23:04,670 hanging out with DX. 354 00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:09,490 It resonated in the same voice of kind of a culture and where it was at at the 355 00:23:09,490 --> 00:23:14,430 time. Surely the era of the superhero who urged you to say your prayers and 356 00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:16,530 your vitamins is definitely passe. 357 00:23:16,890 --> 00:23:20,310 We encourage some degree of parental discretion as it relates to the younger 358 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:21,730 audience allowed to stay up late. 359 00:23:22,090 --> 00:23:26,250 When he committed to, okay, we're leaving the kid stuff behind, now we're 360 00:23:26,250 --> 00:23:28,110 into this, hell yeah. 361 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,660 Product needed to change and be more realistic. 362 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,860 Hence the birth of the Attitude Era. 363 00:23:35,260 --> 00:23:40,020 We're going to push it. We're going to walk to the line, may step over it, and 364 00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:42,460 we're going to try and move that line a little bit as well. 365 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:45,220 Wait a minute. This is going entirely too far. 366 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:52,080 The Attitude Era represented the seismic shift into a more edgier program. 367 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,120 It was such a unique time in the business. And there was one man in 368 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:03,080 who was responsible for ushering in the Attitude Era, and that man was Stone 369 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,080 Cold Steve Austin. 370 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:11,360 Steve Austin does what he wants, when he wants. And that's the bottom line for 371 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:12,940 Stone Cold Simpson. 372 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:19,640 The style of delivery was so much different than other wrestling promos. 373 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,940 only thing that I'll deliver is a big can of whoop -ass right to your front 374 00:24:24,940 --> 00:24:25,939 door. 375 00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:28,060 Austin is entertaining as hell. 376 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:31,900 He's impactful. 377 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,600 Steve was unique and he was special. And what that did just in terms of moving 378 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,060 the needle and raising the bar. 379 00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:44,290 Austin 316 says I just whipped your ass. 380 00:24:45,370 --> 00:24:51,270 Tune in next week. Same Stone Cold time, same Stone Cold channel. 381 00:24:52,730 --> 00:24:57,950 I knew that we were in competition with WCW, and I felt very competitive with 382 00:24:57,950 --> 00:24:59,310 them. It's like, hey, man, these guys. 383 00:25:00,550 --> 00:25:04,090 Monday Night Raw began to have a little bit more of an edge, and I began to 384 00:25:04,090 --> 00:25:06,930 notice it, but it didn't really concern me too much. 385 00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:11,060 Until Mike Tyson showed up. 386 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:18,420 Mike Tyson was at the time one of the biggest 387 00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:22,760 celebrities on the face of the planet and certainly the baddest man on the 388 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,659 of the planet. 389 00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:28,000 Mike Tyson in a WWF ring. This is big, ladies and gentlemen. 390 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:32,580 I went, oh, that's going to sting. 391 00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:45,010 Mike Tyson brings a lot of eyeballs from boxing and mainstream media and 392 00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:47,610 everywhere in the world to what we do. 393 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:56,750 To see Mike Tyson go nose to nose with 394 00:25:56,750 --> 00:26:01,410 Stone Cold Steve Austin, that was very interesting. 395 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,760 You're messing with Stone Cold Steve Austin, and that's something you don't 396 00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:14,840 I 397 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:22,740 sat 398 00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:24,720 there and I said, oh, my God, they got it. 399 00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:26,860 They figured it out. 400 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,900 That was the first time that I knew we were in for a real fight. 401 00:26:39,150 --> 00:26:44,350 Vince realized from the numbers that people were not watching Raw like they 402 00:26:44,350 --> 00:26:50,290 to. What does Vince do is he takes the number one pay -per -view name, Mike 403 00:26:50,290 --> 00:26:52,850 Tyson, and puts him into WrestleMania. 404 00:26:53,770 --> 00:26:58,610 I would like to thank Mike Tyson being the media magnet that he is. 405 00:26:58,870 --> 00:27:00,730 This is what I love to do. I love wrestling. 406 00:27:00,930 --> 00:27:03,390 And I was just so happy to be involved with that. 407 00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:06,490 I'm happy with the WWF. I'm very happy. 408 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,280 Mike Tyson is the hottest thing in sports. 409 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,840 With Mike there, it'll draw more attention to the athleticism and the 410 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,720 showmanship of the athletes in the World Wrestling Federation. 411 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Get ready. The World Wrestling Federation title at stake. And the 412 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,800 baddest man on the planet, Mike Tyson. 413 00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:29,500 Austin, he got it. The standard. 414 00:27:30,740 --> 00:27:31,980 Mike Tyson in. 415 00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:33,980 Austin is the champion. 416 00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:35,600 The Austin era. 417 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:42,560 I think the Mike Tyson, Steve Austin storyline and the way it was 418 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:49,480 presented was so believable that not only set up Steve Austin, but it 419 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,140 the Mr. McMahon character in such a credible, believable way. 420 00:27:53,580 --> 00:28:00,340 Nobody, especially Vince McMahon, tells Stone Cold Steve Austin what to do, and 421 00:28:00,340 --> 00:28:01,500 that's the bottom line. 422 00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:13,380 All of a sudden, it wasn't just about wrestling. 423 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,300 It was about this guy against his boss. 424 00:28:17,860 --> 00:28:22,560 McMahon, 316, says, I just pissed my pants. 425 00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:27,100 If you want to see Austin McMahon, give me a hell yeah. 426 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,180 Just brought viewers in. 427 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,120 Austin and McMahon turned the tide for WWE. 428 00:28:36,580 --> 00:28:38,640 I can't believe what we're about to witness. 429 00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:41,550 And WWE started winning the ratings. 430 00:28:44,270 --> 00:28:47,950 You know, you've heard the saying, all boats rise with a high tide. 431 00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:51,950 WWE, WCW was at its highest tide. 432 00:28:52,350 --> 00:28:54,630 Welcome to WWF Raw. 433 00:28:54,910 --> 00:28:56,970 We are absolutely sold out. 434 00:28:57,370 --> 00:29:01,550 All my friends would come over. And so we would just be like flipping back and 435 00:29:01,550 --> 00:29:02,990 forth, flipping back and forth. 436 00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:06,950 I mean, arenas are full. 437 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:08,840 Everybody's household names. 438 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,180 Sting is heavyweight champion of the world. 439 00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:15,920 Greatest time, I think, in the history of wrestling. 440 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:23,260 This was two mega companies going head to head 441 00:29:23,260 --> 00:29:24,260 with one another. 442 00:29:24,420 --> 00:29:28,200 The wrestling universe got bigger than it had ever been before. I mean, there 443 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,340 were millions and millions of people watching every night. 444 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,080 The mailman, Karl Malone. 445 00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:37,660 Teaming with Diamond Dallas Page against a tandem of Hollywood Hogan and Dennis 446 00:29:37,660 --> 00:29:39,940 Rodman. Jay Leno in command. 447 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,760 Bullseye. 448 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:48,500 I feel like NWO was really cool at one point. And then Austin and DX kind of 449 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:53,660 made WWE cool. So WCW now needed an answer to that. Who was their answer? 450 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,320 Goldberg. 451 00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:05,580 And Goldberg just went on a streak of just beating people's ass. 452 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,700 It was completely different. It was shock and awe. 453 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:14,200 What you see is what you get. 454 00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:19,640 It was perfect. 455 00:30:21,540 --> 00:30:23,580 The amount of rivalry. 456 00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:29,790 that WCW and WWE had at that moment in that time. They would throw jabs at each 457 00:30:29,790 --> 00:30:31,150 other live on television. 458 00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:34,470 Me and you, McMahon, in the ring. 459 00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:40,090 You didn't see the Red Sox or the Yankees doing that. It really was a 460 00:30:40,090 --> 00:30:42,690 rivalry. And I'm going to knock you out. 461 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,820 WCW is now going in and actively going in and trying to hurt business. They're 462 00:30:48,820 --> 00:30:52,100 going in and we book TV in a venue and our stuff is announced earlier. 463 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:56,380 They shift and they book the scope right just down the road and things are 464 00:30:56,380 --> 00:30:59,620 thrown out. Like we should go down there and do something live in their parking 465 00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:02,580 lot or just like get that attention on it. 466 00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:10,620 Ladies and gentlemen, we are the number one wrestling promotion in the world. 467 00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:18,300 Oh, my gosh. We're talking about it being the Monday Night Wars, and here's 468 00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:23,360 driving up outside their arena while their show is going on. That's just 469 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,320 something that had never been done before. 470 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,680 It was so, like, holy. 471 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,500 WCW! There's a bunch of powers! 472 00:31:33,159 --> 00:31:36,740 Someone came to your house trying to fight. You closed the drapes. They 473 00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:40,080 that door because they knew Scott and I were trying to get out that door. 474 00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:46,000 From watching it as a fan, it just looked like, oh, my God, they just came 475 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,560 the doorstep. Yeah, let's do it. This is going down right now. 476 00:31:50,740 --> 00:31:56,660 There was a 68 -year -old man running that door, and we're like, open the 477 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,340 Open the door, because all I'm thinking of, I'm going to walk on raw here in a 478 00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:02,340 minute. 479 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 It's about to go down. 480 00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:06,520 Something's about to go down. We don't know what it is, but we're going to be a 481 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,860 part of it. That's how crazy it was. And then nothing. 482 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:10,900 Nothing. 483 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,620 Tell me who knows professional wrestling. 484 00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:21,240 I remember there was a moment where Bruce Prichard had said, what if they 485 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,280 bunch of guys in a car and they come here and they try to do the same thing 486 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,300 to us and they just shoot it and they put it on the show next week and what do 487 00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:27,839 we do? 488 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,840 And Vince was like. 489 00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:31,610 Open up the garage doors. Let them in. What show are you going to watch? The 490 00:32:31,610 --> 00:32:33,210 with all the wrestlers or the one with none of the wrestlers? 491 00:32:33,650 --> 00:32:36,510 Let them go right to the ring. They drive straight out there to the ring, 492 00:32:36,510 --> 00:32:37,429 they will all come out. 493 00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:39,090 That's the greatest TV ever. 494 00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:42,050 And I remember thinking at that moment, like, this is why we're going to win. 495 00:32:42,170 --> 00:32:43,170 Like, that's genius. 496 00:32:48,730 --> 00:32:53,410 40 ,000 fans are on hand for WCW Monday Night Raw. 497 00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:56,150 There's nothing like a good battle. 498 00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:59,960 It was not only the creative battle that took place between the characters 499 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,880 inside of the ring, it was the battle between two companies. 500 00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:07,640 I suggested to Tony Schiavone that he give away the finish to Monday Night Raw 501 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,120 and kind of downplay it. If you're even thinking about changing the channel to 502 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,940 our competition, fans do not. I hear Tony Schiavone tell their viewers not to 503 00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:23,220 even think about changing the channels. We understand that Mick Foley is going 504 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:24,520 to win their world title. 505 00:33:25,690 --> 00:33:27,170 It's going to put some butts in the seat. 506 00:33:28,150 --> 00:33:31,610 They're taped, and here's what happens. So you might as well stick around here. 507 00:33:31,670 --> 00:33:35,890 That was the idea. And it worked very, very well all the way up until the night 508 00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:41,450 I tried it with The Rock and Mick Foley because a lot of my audience went, oh, 509 00:33:41,510 --> 00:33:44,010 really? Rock, Mick Foley? I'm going to go check that out. 510 00:33:44,290 --> 00:33:49,650 So Rock's against Mankind, and the odds are stacked against Mick Foley. 511 00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:54,510 Five to six hundred thousand people had switched channels instantaneously. 512 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,440 Foley was so beloved, and it backfired on Nitro. 513 00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:08,500 Sometimes things work really, really well, and sometimes they suck. 514 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000 That one sucked. 515 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,159 Did you watch Raw? 516 00:34:12,659 --> 00:34:13,659 Yes. 517 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,900 I watched every Monday. 518 00:34:16,420 --> 00:34:21,239 Back then, we would have our show, and then we would have the Raw show, both 519 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,940 monitors. What the hell? 520 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,840 Steve was such a megastar and Rock was such a megastar. 521 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:40,280 But when you 522 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,400 watched the landscape of sports entertainment at that time, from the 523 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,699 show started, everybody was a star. 524 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:50,639 Every Monday was Woodstock. 525 00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:05,520 To go up against this thing, that's what I just said back. I went, I'm so glad I 526 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,520 got guaranteed money. 527 00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:11,160 This is ridiculous. 528 00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:16,640 At WCW, for the first time in a year and a half, two years, almost three, we're 529 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,640 playing catch -up. 530 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:24,680 For a while, it felt more like, oh, WWE guys are jumping ship to go there. 531 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:28,260 And when it started becoming the opposite, that was pretty exciting as a 532 00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:29,380 for sure. 533 00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:37,180 Jericho's Tron hits, and I lose my mind. My dad's like, got to work in the 534 00:35:37,180 --> 00:35:40,680 morning. I wake him up. I'm just losing my mind. It just felt like a really big 535 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,680 deal. 536 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,860 That one stung. 537 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,180 When you start losing key talent at the same time you're losing ground 538 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:50,740 competitively, it's kind of a double whammy. 539 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,760 I fell out of WWF for about a year, saw it now. I just got back in. I think it's 540 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,040 the best thing in sports entertainment. 541 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,860 Fans started to realize how much. 542 00:36:01,310 --> 00:36:03,390 was really happening on Monday Night Raw. 543 00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:10,610 And when they changed the channel, they didn't change back. 544 00:36:16,110 --> 00:36:22,810 WWE has always 545 00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:27,810 greatly benefited by having one genius in charge of everything. 546 00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:33,080 In WCW, they were part of a much larger corporation, which was Time Warner. 547 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:37,900 We are very excited about joining forces with Time Warner because we share a 548 00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:39,560 common vision for the future. 549 00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:45,260 The subsequent AOL -Time Warner merger with Turner created a lot of radical 550 00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:47,280 changes within Turner Broadcasting. 551 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,080 People within Turner Broadcasting didn't want WCW in that primetime real estate 552 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,480 position on Monday night on TNT. They wanted those time slots for movies. 553 00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:03,500 Everybody looked down their nose at wrestling, with the exception of Ted. He 554 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,480 been relegated to a back office with a view and absolutely no influence. 555 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,960 WCW was in shambles at that point. 556 00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:17,220 The people at AOL Time Warner, they weren't wrestling fans, and they wanted 557 00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:19,780 get rid of that property, the WCW property. 558 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:26,420 We made an offer, and it was, look, we're going to buy certain assets. We'll 559 00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:27,420 a library. 560 00:37:27,710 --> 00:37:30,910 We'll take a look at your contracts. If there's any contracts we may want to 561 00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:35,310 pick up, we'll pick up some of them. We had a real cash offer on the table that 562 00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:38,310 could be done like that, and they took it. 563 00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:48,530 Many of you may already know that WCW has new owners. 564 00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:50,690 We couldn't believe it. 565 00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:52,550 Somebody's going out of business. 566 00:37:53,250 --> 00:37:54,490 And at the end... 567 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:59,190 We realized that WWE had won, and we were staying there with them, and we had 568 00:37:59,190 --> 00:38:00,930 been with them through the thick and thin. 569 00:38:01,170 --> 00:38:05,490 I mean, it was a pretty, I don't know, euphoric, because we didn't dislike the 570 00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:08,430 boys down there. Of course. They were us. Of course. They were us. They were 571 00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:12,430 friends. The fans weren't the ones who were fighting. We were just enjoying all 572 00:38:12,430 --> 00:38:16,950 of the product that we were getting to see. It wasn't like, oh, good job, WWE, 573 00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:20,190 you won. It's like, ah, this is one less product that I get to watch now. 574 00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:23,070 Because the whole time was a double agent with Vince. Of course. 575 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:30,130 Imagine that. Me, Vince McMahon. 576 00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:33,750 Here I am on WCW television. 577 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,410 How can that happen? 578 00:38:37,230 --> 00:38:38,490 Rival networks. 579 00:38:38,770 --> 00:38:42,210 And we were simulcasting this thing. Huge deal. 580 00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:49,350 Here's WCW. And here we have the owner of the World 581 00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:50,350 Wrestling Federation. 582 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:52,750 And now. 583 00:38:53,470 --> 00:38:56,810 The owner of WCW. 584 00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:59,910 The Monday Night Wars are over. 585 00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:02,230 Strong's passion won out. 586 00:39:02,490 --> 00:39:05,910 Time Warner had no skin in the game. They didn't care. They hated the 587 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:09,630 and wanted to get rid of it. We loved our property. We love what we do. And 588 00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:10,630 was the difference. 589 00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:12,710 Shane McMahon is on nitro. 590 00:39:13,070 --> 00:39:18,270 The decision was to let Shane go down and shock Vince and say that he had 591 00:39:18,270 --> 00:39:19,270 WCW. 592 00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:20,830 The name. 593 00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:23,260 on the contract does say McMahon. 594 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:28,480 However, the contract reads Shane McMahon. 595 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,020 Oh, my God! 596 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,760 The storyline was my brother against my dad, but in reality, it was the moment 597 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,800 that we knew WCW was done. 598 00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:43,180 WWE didn't buy WCW. 599 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:48,400 WWE bought the assets of WCW, bought the tape library, bought the intellectual 600 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,400 properties. 601 00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:51,220 Smart purchase. 602 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,100 You have to grab your competition by the throat and you've got to squeeze the 603 00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,700 life out of your competition. 604 00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:00,700 Just like I did to WCW. 605 00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:07,780 In the end, WWE put the boots to WCW and we wound up winning 606 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:08,678 the war. 607 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,060 The landscape of our industry is pink. 608 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,180 As a fan, the idea that you're experienced watching wrestling on a 609 00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:23,630 was never going to be the same again was a tough pill to swallow. 610 00:40:24,430 --> 00:40:28,970 I remember one guy crying, and he was like, man, it's the final night. 611 00:40:29,170 --> 00:40:30,310 What are you going to do, book? 612 00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:31,970 I was like, man, I'm going to WWE. 613 00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:38,630 Flair, Sting, Hogan, the NWO. 614 00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:42,890 Those contracts were paying so much money to people just to sit at home. 615 00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:45,210 I didn't get Sting versus Austin. 616 00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:47,570 Flair versus The Rock. 617 00:40:48,490 --> 00:40:50,210 The NWO versus DX. 618 00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:52,890 Didn't get the dream matches I wanted. 619 00:40:53,330 --> 00:40:55,630 Until 10, 15 years later. 620 00:40:57,670 --> 00:41:02,890 Sting's first ever appearance on the grandest stage of all, WrestleMania. 621 00:41:03,970 --> 00:41:07,910 You know, there had been periods of time when there had been overtures of Sting 622 00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:10,410 to come in, and they had been shut down. 623 00:41:10,850 --> 00:41:16,090 When Sting finally signed to come in, we ended up making the match with me and 624 00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:17,090 him. 625 00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:23,510 I was sitting in the third row for WrestleMania 31. To see him in the ring 626 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:28,030 -to -face with Triple H, who is a symbol for everything that WWE is, is enough 627 00:41:28,030 --> 00:41:29,690 of a mind -blowing moment. 628 00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:33,730 But then halfway through the match, the NWO music plays. 629 00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:35,950 The DX music plays. 630 00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:48,320 And you're like, oh, my God, this is all happening right in front of me all 631 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,560 these years later. 632 00:41:50,740 --> 00:41:55,540 Like the Monday Night War is still happening. 633 00:41:55,900 --> 00:42:00,600 What an absolutely incredible moment. History of the making tonight in 634 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,880 WrestleMania. These two great, iconic, legendary groups that people will 635 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,500 remember as long as their sports entertainment in the world. They finally 636 00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,200 up. To me, it was just a magical moment. 637 00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:18,040 When the match was over, we kind of all just stood there in the ring, and Sting 638 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,540 and I sort of shook hands, and it was, we all did this war, it's all over, and 639 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:24,700 to me, that's what made it work. 640 00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:30,020 The rivalry between WCW and WWE, the Monday Night Wars, it completely changed 641 00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:31,060 the wrestling industry. 642 00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:38,300 That was a great time for television. 643 00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:39,840 It was hot. 644 00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:44,530 There will be nothing like this ever again. The two number one rated shows on 645 00:42:44,530 --> 00:42:47,930 two networks, and they're fighting each other on live television. 646 00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:57,870 The battle between WCW and WWE was real. People gravitated towards it. It 647 00:42:57,870 --> 00:43:00,210 doesn't matter what your name is. 648 00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:05,610 It was the right time and the right companies going head to head. It stands 649 00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:07,870 test of time. We're still talking about it to this day. 55058

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