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♪ There's something happening here ♪
♪ What it is ain't exactly clear ♪
♪ There's a man with a gun over there ♪
♪ Telling me I got to beware ♪
- This is an unlawful assembly.
You must disperse immediately.
♪ There's battle lines being drawn ♪
♪ Nobody's right if everybody's wrong ♪
♪ Young people speaking their minds ♪
♪ Getting so much resistance from behind ♪
♪ It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound ♪
Everybody look what's going down
- All rise.
United States district court for the northern district
of Illinois now is in session.
The honorable Judge Julius J. Hoffman presiding.
- Ladies and gentleman of the jury, good morning.
- 69 CR 180, the United States of America
versus David Dellinger, et al for trial.
- Your mayor proud to welcome a great political gathering
of Americans will come here
to shape the future of the nation
and as long as I'm mayor of this town,
there will be law and order in Chicago.
- Mr. Schultz representing the government.
- The government, ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
will prove in this case an overall plan
of the eight defendants to encourage numerous people
to come to the city of Chicago
during the Democratic National Convention,
which was held from August 26th through August 29th, 1968.
They planned to bring these people into Chicago
to create a situation where these people would riot.
The government will prove that David Dellinger.
- Well, I was described as an antiwar activist
or a pacifist leader and today I'm called a peace activist,
but I don't like any of those terms
because I think you can't have peace without justice.
- The defendant Renard Davis.
- I came out of a very conservative family
that very much believed in American values.
I would say I was a full time activist, you know,
with a passion to end the war in Vietnam.
- Next to him, Thomas Hayden.
Who is standing.
- Who is the last defendant you named?
- Mr. Hayden.
- The one that shook his fist in the direction of the jury?
- That's my customary greeting, your honor.
- It may be your customary greeting,
but we do not allow shaking your fist in this courtroom.
- It implied no disrespect to the jury.
It is my customary greeting.
- Irregardless of what it implies, sir,
there will be no fist shaking
and I caution you not to repeat it.
- I began as a innocent enough idealistic reformer,
a student editor, a person that believed in civil rights.
I had been a founder and an early president
of students for democratic society.
- May I proceed, your honor?
- Yes, Mr. Schultz, yes.
- And promoting and encouraging this riot,
the defendants Dellinger, Davis and Hayden
joined with five other defendants
to create the riots in Chicago during the convention.
The defendant Abbott Hoffman.
- The jury is directed to disregard the kiss thrown
by the defendant Hoffman and the defendant is directed
not to do that sort of thing again.
- But here we were growing up in the late 50s
with the whole idea of material success.
The designer brain mentality.
We could have credit cards if we wanted.
We could have good paying jobs.
We didn't have to worry about keeping up with Mr. Jones
'cause we were Mr. Jones.
And we said no to that primetime culture.
We just said chuck it.
We just said it's boring.
It's spiritually unrewarding.
And it's unjust for people too poor to participate in.
Now they couldn't understand that at all.
- And with him, a man named Jerry Rubin.
- I was writing books at the time.
I was a political activist.
My job full time was inspiring young people
to think for themselves, to resist authority,
and to create a new social order in the United States.
That's how I saw myself.
- These men call themselves leaders of the yippie.
Two more of these individuals are Lee Wiener.
- Wiener.
- I had a master's degree in sociology
and I was just about finished
with my doctorate in sociology.
Being nothing more than a nice middle class Jewish boy
doing what his parents grew him up to be,
which is speaking for himself
and for helping other people secure their rights.
- And John Froines.
- I was an assistant professor of chemistry
at the University of Oregon.
At the same time, I was a political activist.
A social activist.
- And the eighth person, the last person who joined
is a man named Bobby Seale.
- Huey P. Newton and I created
and founded an organization called the Black Panther party.
We talking about full employment for our people.
The power to determine our own destiny
in our own black community.
- The government will prove the defendants Dellinger,
Davis, Hayden, Hoffman, Rubin
and Seale traveled across state lines through Chicago
with intent to organize, to insight, and to promote a riot.
And the government will prove the defendant Froines
and Weiner taught and demonstrated to other people,
the use and making of incendiary devices
to be used to further this disorder.
The government will prove each
of these defendants guilty as charged.
Thank you.
- Voices of angry protest are heard throughout the land,
crying for all manner of freedoms.
- Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
my name is William Kunstler.
I'm an attorney from the city of New York
and I'm one of the attorneys on this case.
We hope to prove before you that this prosecution,
which you are hearing is the result of two motives
on the part of the government.
- Objection.
Is there any motives of prosecution of the court?
- Your honor, it is a proper defense to show motive.
- I sustain the objection.
You may speak to the guilt or innocent to your clients,
not to the motive of the government.
- Your honor, I always thought that to show motive--
- I sustained the objection
regardless of what you've always thought, Mr. Kunstler.
- The evidence will show that the defendants,
like many other citizens of the United States,
came to protest in the finest American tradition.
They came to Chicago to protest the continuation
of this bloody and unjustified war.
The evidence will show that there were forces in this city
and in the national government
who are absolutely determined to prevent this protest.
What actually happened in the streets of Chicago,
not a riot caused by demonstrators,
but a riot engineered by the police.
Before you is a classic example
of government against people
of their rights violated by Billy clubs.
We will demonstrate that free speech
died here in the streets under those clubs
and at the bodies of the demonstrators
was sacrifices to its death.
- Objection, your honor.
- I sustain the objection.
I direct the jury to disregard the last statement
of the counsel for the defense.
- Thank you ladies and gentlemen.
- Is there any other defense lawyer
who wishes to make an opening statement?
I take it that you're standing there means yes you do, Mr.
Mr. Weinglass.
- Yes, your honor.
That is correct.
If your honor, please.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
Mr. Kunstler indicated that persons who came to Chicago
felt a moral anguish at what they considered
to be wrongful conduct of this country.
It was another group of people who came to Chicago,
not for the purpose of protesting,
but for the purpose of showing the public
and the leaders and the rulers of this country
that there was emerging a new culture.
This group generally called Yippies came here
for a conclave to be known as the festival of life.
They had invited a number of rock bands
relevant to the youth culture.
I do not ask you to accept or like,
or agree with any of the speeches,
which my clients might've given.
- Your honor, I object.
Counsel argues the case.
It is improper.
- I sustain the objection.
- So I ask you to keep an open mind
and to await before making your judgment.
Thank you.
- Does any other defense lawyer wish
to make an opening statement?
Just a minute, sir.
Who is your lawyer?
- Charles. R. Gary.
- Bobby Seale was in jail pending a murder trial
in Connecticut where he was supposed to be a defendant
and which later exonerated him.
- Now, Bobby's lawyer is Charles Gary
and Charles was having a medical operation at the time.
- The man had been cut open.
I mean, how's he gonna come to trial?
All we needed was a little postponement.
You know what I mean?
Like two, three, four weeks and something like that.
Judge wasn't gonna do that.
Later for that.
- Mr. Kunstler, do you represent Mr. Seale?
- No, your honor.
As far as Mr. Seale has indicated to me
that because of the absence of Charles R. Gary--
- Have you filed his appearance?
- I have filed an appearance for Mr. Seale, yes.
- All right.
I will permit you to make another opening statement
on behalf of Mr. Seale if you like.
I will not permit a party in the case to--
- Your honor, I cannot compromise Mr. Seale's position.
- I don't ask you to compromise it, sir,
but I will not permit him to address the jury
with his very competent lawyers standing there.
- At a meeting on August 8th, 1968, who said what?
- Mr. Hoffman said he wanted the mayor
to grant a permit for use of Lincoln Park.
They wanted to use the park to sleep in.
I said that the mayor had no authority
over the park district.
- Now calling your attention to August 21st, 1968.
What brought you to the courtroom of Judge William Lynch?
- There was a lawsuit filed
by the national mobilization committee
to end the war and by Mr. Rennie Davis,
Tom Hayden and others against the city of Chicago.
I said that the city was predisposed
to issue a permit for a march
if Mr. Davis was willing to accept a reasonable proposal.
- What happened then?
- Well, Mr. Davis said that he wanted to meet
with an eyesight of the amphitheater.
I pointed out no one was permitted in that area
because of security precautions for the convention.
He said if the city wants to avoid violence,
you should take all the police
and guardsmen away from the amphitheater.
That it was his experience
that the police actually caused violence.
He also said that his members
couldn't really be housed in hotel accommodations.
That many of them didn't have money.
He said that if the city doesn't give us the park,
there will be tens of thousands of people
without a place to stay and they will go into the parks
and the police will drive them out
and there'll be disorder, tear gas, mace, Billy clubs.
- With respect to the law,
which does not permit staying in the park beyond 11,
was that requirement waived for the Boy Scouts?
- Apparently, yes.
- But don't you think it would have been wiser
to let the kids sleep in the park?
- I was told by Abbie Hoffman that during the convention
there would be 500,000 young people
attending the festival of life.
Mr. Rubin said, they'd be holding classes
in defense against the police.
Abbie Hoffman said he was prepared to tear up our town
and that if we were smart, we the city,
we would give them $100,000.
Or better still give him 100,000 and he would leave town.
- I said 200,000.
- This festival would include, he said,
body painting, nude ins at the beaches, public fornication,
discussion of the draft, and draft invasion.
- Your honor, at this time I would like
to offer evidence with respect
to the defendant Dellinger only.
- Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
the testimony the witness is about to give
is offered only with respect to the defendant Derringer.
- I think your honor means Dellinger.
- Dellinger.
That's right.
- Mr. Dellinger said we must issue--
- I'm going to get back to you, Mr. witness.
I mispronounced the defendant's name.
You said Dillinger.
It's Derringer.
We were both wrong.
You mean Mr. Derringer, do you not?
- Dellinger.
Dellinger.
- Said that it was necessary that we issue a permit
for sleeping in Lincoln Park
in order to minimize destruction.
- Now, if my understanding is correct,
all your meetings with Jerry and Abbie
took place in city hall.
- Your honor, I object to the reference to these two little.
To Abbie and Jerry.
Let's call the defendants by their proper names.
- I agree.
- Now you testified in your meeting
with Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman some mention of $100,000.
Is that correct?
- Yes, that is correct.
- Did you take that discussion seriously?
- Yes, I most certainly did.
- Now in your meeting with Rennie and Tom.
- Oh your honor, here we go again.
Another 29 year old being Rennie baby.
- I object to that, your honor.
Would you direct the jury
to disregard the Rennie baby remark?
It's unfounded.
- If the United States attorney said that I certainly do.
Crowd the baby out of your minds.
We're not dealing with babies here.
- My mother, who's a Republican, now 75 year old woman
sent me a five pound box of jellybeans.
- Jellybeans.
Jellybeans.
- All rise.
The court is now in session.
- On Sunday evening I observed a Jerry Rubin
in Lincoln Park pointing at the police officers.
Then he began to shout.
He used some profanity.
- If profane words were spoken,
part of something an individual had said,
I think it's appropriate in law that a witness so testify.
- He says, look at these motherfucking pigs
standing over here.
Take off your guns and we'll fight you hand to hand.
- I was assigned to follow Mr. Jerry Rubin
- During all this period, did you ever see him throw
an object at another human being?
- Wednesday.
- Wednesday?
He threw an object?
- Yes.
He threw a sweater.
- At who?
- At me.
- I take it you were uninjured by the sweater.
- I was dressed in a white shirt, khaki pants and gym shoes.
Sneakers.
- Would you please relate what the defendant Davis said
about civil disobedience
and the democratic national convention?
- He said they were going to be demonstrations
and civil disobedience to disrupt the convention.
- And neither mob violence
nor police brutality have any place.
- So the prosecution had the point of view
that we were international revolutionaries
and they bought on a parade of policemen.
- Among them were informants who penetrated our ranks,
which wasn't very difficult to do
since we're a very casual organization.
- I submit to the court that the right of persons to meet,
to assemble and to discuss outstanding political,
social questions without fear of intimidation
of police officers is paramount.
And to allow undercover agents to attend the meetings
and make reports is a violation of the first amendment,
of freedom of speech and assembly.
For that reason I ask
that the officer's testimony be stricken.
- Your honor, I object to their motion.
- We're opening up mail
and somebody opened the wrong envelope quickly.
- And it was some very green marijuana.
Maybe about four ounces.
- You approve of your client laughing
while the court is making a decision?
- I didn't hear, your honor.
I was talking with Mr. Davis.
- You seem to be enjoying their laughter
because you smiled yourself.
- A smile is not forbidden
in federal court, I think your honor.
I think I ought to put on record
that Mr. Davis complemented Mr. Foran
on making a good point.
- Motion will be denied.
And as long as you were putting things on the record,
I think I will put on the record
the posture of one of your clients.
This is the United States district court.
Have a look at him lying down there like he's on the ground.
- May reflect his attitude toward
what is going on in this courtroom.
- Oh, I think it does.
I think it does reflect his attitude.
- Then it is free speech.
- And that attitude will be appropriately dealt with.
- Boo.
- Again three marshalls back there
deal with those comments.
- Hey man.
♪ So easy to sleep ♪
♪ People everywhere just wanna be free ♪
♪ Listen, please listen ♪
♪ That's the way it should be ♪
♪ There's peace in the valley ♪
♪ People got to be free ♪
- My assignment was an undercover investigator.
- Did you in any way
alter your physical appearance
to conduct your assignment as an undercover investigator?
- Yes, I did.
I allowed my hair to grow long.
I allowed myself to go without a shave
for approximately four to six weeks.
I purchased the attire of a motorcycle gang member,
which is motorcycle boots, a black tee shirt,
black Levi's and a black leather vest.
And I also rented a motorcycle.
- On Monday in Lincoln Park who did you meet with?
- I was introduced to Abbie Hoffman
to be one of his bodyguards.
Hoffman shook my hand and said he was glad
to have me with him.
I said to Hoffman that last night's confrontation
was a pretty good one.
And Hoffman said to me, they pushed us out of the park,
but tonight we're gonna hold the park.
- What did you say when Hoffman told you this, please?
- I told him he could count on me
in every way possible in helping him
and doing my best to keep him from being arrested.
- Where'd you go then?
- Tom Hayden had been arrested and a march was formed
to go to police headquarters to free Hayden.
I was introduced by Jerry Rubin as his personal bodyguard.
He was told I could be trusted.
Rubin said that it was too many pigs here.
Let's go to the Hilton.
So we went North on Michigan Avenue.
When the march was midpoint past the Logan statue,
the crowd broke and ran up the statue
screaming take the Hill.
They climbed the statute and displayed the Vietcong flag.
The red flag and the black flag.
Rubin said that this was better than Iwo Jima.
I saw Rennie Davis with a microphone saying hold the statue.
Don't let the pigs move you out
Rubin said we've got to do more to keep the crowd active.
We want them in the park for the Bobby Seale speech.
- I object on the grounds of my lawyer is not here.
You know my lawyer is not here, your honor,
and I want my lawyer here when he mentions my name
and testifies against me.
- Ask him to sit down, Mr. Marshall.
- Sit down, Mr. Seale.
- Your honor, this little episode
for the benefit of the jury
is intended simply to misconstrue the fact
that this man originally had four lawyers to begin with.
- In the speech Bobby Seale said that the time
for singing "We Shall Overcome" is past
and now is the time to act, to go out,
and buy a 357 Magnum and a 45 and kill the pigs.
Rubin began to yell kill the pigs, kills the cops.
A man with a plastic bag said to Rubin,
I'm gonna fill this bag with human shit
and throw it at the pigs.
And Rubin laughed and said good.
It'll be good food for the pigs.
- Thank you, Mr. Pearson.
No further questions, your honor.
- When you heard Jerry Rubin speak,
was there any change in the mood of the assemblage?
- Not that I noticed.
- Did the group become violent in any way?
- No, sir.
- Now, concerning Mr. Seale's speech,
was not the only reference to killing the pigs
when he talked about self defense against an unjust attack?
Isn't that the context?
- That's what you said, Mr. Weinglass.
That's not what I have said.
- The problem with the trial from our point of view
was that we were being diverted from our primary job.
Our primary job was to organize antiwar activities.
- And we wanted to participate very seriously
in the Vietnam moratorium.
- It may have been the largest nationwide turnout
of Americans against any war in American history.
- Yes.
Morning, troops.
- Good morning, Abbie.
- All rise.
- Hey, gentlemen.
- The court is now in session.
The honorable judge, Julius J. Hoffman presiding.
- Your honor, we have made a motion
for the suspension of the trial for tomorrow.
It's been declared a day called Vietnam Moratorium.
These men escaped Chicago
to protest this brutal imperialistic war.
They feel they are being prosecuted for doing so.
I think it very fitting for them to be permitted
to join the millions of countrymen desire the same thing.
- Your honor, there's been some evidence presented
that these men took part in a cynical plan
to use the tragic issue of the war
to tear down the formal structure
of the government of the United States.
Now many of us feel the tragedy of war,
especially some of us who have fought in one
and that they should now ask to join
with maybe a sincere effort--
- Your honor, I think these personal attacks
of the defendants are uncalled for.
I think they are making a fervent request
to protest the deaths of thousands,
millions of innocent people
whose lives have been corrupted
and prevented by the utter horror that goes on
in your name and in my name.
- Not in my name.
- It is in your name, too.
The name of the United States.
- You just include yourself.
Don't join me with you.
Goodness.
Defendants motion for an adjournment will be denied.
♪ War huh ♪
♪ Good God, y'all ♪
♪ What is it good for ♪
♪ Absolutely nothing ♪
♪ Say it again ♪
♪ War huh ♪
- The names of those who died in the war this week are.
Mark King.
Thomas Diaz.
Tron T. Line.
John Cohen.
Lein Who.
Richard Washington.
Phong Boc.
Allen Peterson.
Tron Bon Duke.
Roger Brianski.
- Hey, hold on.
Hey, come on.
Relax.
Give it to me.
Knock it off.
- Mr. Hoffman, we are observing the moratorium.
- I am Judge Hoffman, sir.
- I believe in equality, sir.
So I prefer to call people Mr. or by their first name.
- Sit down.
- We propose that we observe a moment's silence.
- Court please, I would like the Marshall
to take this man into custody.
- We only wanted a moment of silence.
- I object to this man speaking out in court.
- You needn't to object.
I forbid him to disrupt the proceedings
and I note for the record that his name is.
- David Dellinger's my name, sir.
- The name of this man who has intended
to disrupt proceedings is David Dellinger
and the record will clearly indicate that, Miss Reporter,
and I direct him and all the others
not to repeat such occurrence.
- Your honor, I want to object Mr. Foran's yelling
in the presence of the jury.
Your honor, as the counselor defense that's for yelling.
- Oh your honor, this is outrageous.
This man is a mouthpiece.
Just look at him wearing an armband like his clients.
For any lawyer to come into a courtroom
and have no respect for the court.
The government protests his attitude
and would like to move the court
to make note of his conduct.
- Your honor, I think the temper and the tone of voice
and the expression on Mr. Foran's face
tells more than any picture could tell.
- Of my contempt for Mr.--
- To call another attorney a mouthpiece.
And for your honor not to open his mouth
and say this is not to be done in this court,
I think violates the sanctity of this court.
It is a word that your honor knows
is contemptuous and contumacious.
- Don't tell me what I know.
- I am wearing an armband to moratorium to the dead,
which is no disgrace in this country.
I want him admonished.
- Did you say you wanted to admonish me?
- I want you to admonish him.
- Let the record show I do not admonish
the United States attorney
because he has properly represented his client,
the United States of America.
- To call another attorney a mouthpiece,
are you turning down my request?
After this disgraceful episode,
you are not going to say anything?
- I not only turn it down, I ignore it.
- That speaks louder than words.
- Sir, you are a lawyer in the United States district court
permitting your client to stand up
in the presence of the jury and disrupt these proceedings.
I do not know how to characterize it.
- We do not permit our clients.
They are free independent human beings who have been brought
by the government into this courtroom.
- That is right.
They are free, but they will conform
to the directions of the court here, sir.
- Mr. Davis said, there would be no way to deal logically
or rationally with the Chicago police.
That they were the most belligerent,
unthinking law enforcement agency
and that there was no hope of avoiding a confrontation
with the Chicago police.
He said that if the demonstrators tried
to sleep in the park, they could expect
to be surrounded by the police
and that they should form separate groups
and break out of the park and go into the city.
And in his own words,
tie it up and bust it up.
If an arrest situation commands,
Mr. Davis said, we just riot.
- Calling your attention to an earlier afternoon
in Lincoln Park August 24th.
What was going on there?
- 25 or 30 people lined up side by side in rows
of five or six so that they all faced in the same direction.
Then each row linked arms and they began
to chant something to synchronized foot movements.
Mr. Hayden told the group that this snake dance formation
was the same type the Japanese students used
to precipitate riots in Japan in 1960.
He said that by getting people together in this formation,
it aroused their emotions.
It was very good for breaking through police lines
and moving people in the event of a riot situation.
- Did you see any of the defendants
directing those snake dances and those karate techniques?
- Objection, leading.
- I don't believe it's leading.
I overrule the objection.
You may answer, sir.
- Mr. Hoffman was leading one of those groups.
- I was not.
- You describe your role as a paid informer.
- No.
- You recall making a lengthy statement to the FBI?
And in it, what did you say your employer said to you?
- Well he said, would you object
to infiltrating SDSN national mobilization
in order to get stories pertinent
to the democratic national convention?
I said, I would.
- Your honor is something happening?
I don't understand what's happening.
The marshalls are asking people to leave.
- I know nothing about it.
Ladies and gentlemen, I will not have talking,
finger waving or any distraction.
Do I make myself clear?
- I think there's a bit of racism involved myself.
- Your honor, may the record show
that a number of the marshals are black people.
This is, you know, this is our daily exercise
by getting stories in the newspapers.
It's just so utterly ridiculous.
All I get from your clients constantly is a laugh.
Just this second justice they sit there
and laugh at a judge of the highest trial court
in the United States.
- I don't wanna die.
I don't wanna be anybody's martyr,
but you know, to my wife, you know,
let my kid know that I just stood up for some human justice.
- There is a motion here of defendant Bobby Seale
to be permitted to defend himself.
- I will hear you, Mr. Seale.
- I wanna present this motion on behalf of myself.
I am not a lawyer, but I do know that I,
as one of the defendants, have a right to defend myself.
So I, Bobby Seale move the court as follows.
Because I am denied the lawyer of my choice Charles R. Gary,
I am forced to be my own counsel and to defend myself.
I require my release from custody
so I can interview necessary witnesses,
do the necessary investigating,
and all other things that being in custody makes impossible.
Cross examine witnesses, make all necessary emotions,
and prove my innocence.
- Have you finished, sir?
- Yes.
- Your honor, the other defendants would like
to join in this motion.
I'd like to call your honor's attention
to Adams versus the United States
with the Supreme Court said,
constitution does not force a lawyer on a defendant.
Mr. Seale filed that he does not desire
to have me or any other attorney.
- Your honor, I know I have gotten some attacks
from the government saying we playing games over here.
I am not playing no game with my life
being stuck on the line.
And I want to put that into the record
to explain my situation.
- Mr. Schultz.
- Your honor, this is a ploy.
It's ludicrous.
The defendants know perfectly well
that if Mr. Seale were to cross examine witnesses here
and argue to the jury,
we would have a mistrial in two minutes.
It's a game they're playing with the court.
- In the view of the court,
the defendant Seale is now represented by competent counsel.
Mr. Kunstler having filed his appearance
in Mr. Seale's behalf.
I find now to allow the defendant Seale
to act as his own attorney would produce disruptive effect.
The complexity of the case
makes self representation inappropriate.
Motion will be denied.
- I should be allowed to defend myself.
- I will ask--
- I should be allowed to speak so I can defend.
- Quiet.
- Don't tell me to shut up.
I got a write to speak.
- Mr. Seale, I admonish you that any outbursts
such as you have just indulged in,
will be appropriately dealt with.
I must order you not to do it again.
- In other words, you are saying you are gonna put me
in contempt of court for speaking on behalf of myself.
- Will you be quiet?
That is all.
I will not argue with you.
You have lawyers to speak for you.
- Look, they don't speak for me.
I want to represent myself.
- Mr. Marshall, will you go to that man
and ask him to be quiet?
- I still want to defend myself and I know I have the right.
- Be quiet.
- Hey, man.
- I just want to let him know that.
That racist.
You know, the black man tries
to get a fair trial in this country.
United States government, huh?
Nixon and the rest.
Well, go 'head.
Continue.
I'll watch and get railroaded.
- I filled out a form
for the national mobilization committee
stating that I'd like to be a Marshall
for the democratic convention.
- During this time, have you been otherwise employed?
- Yes, as a member of Chicago police department.
- Oink oink.
Swee.
- Now.
Calling your attention to Friday, August 9th, 1968
in the morning where were you?
- Went to the national mobilization committee headquarters.
Rennie Davis was there.
David Dellinger and many other people.
Mr. Davis said that there'd many demonstrations
throughout the city and the purpose of these
will be to stretch the police force out.
He said we would block traffic going down the street.
We would block people from going in and out of buildings.
We would smash windows and generally try
to shut the loop down.
Lee Wiener said that the Marshall
would probably wear helmets.
And John Froines said that we should break up
into small groups and these groups should be violent.
Everyone in the group agreed with this.
And Abbie Hoffman was at this meeting.
- Do you see Mr. Hoffman here in the courtroom?
- Yes, I do.
- Would you point him out please?
- He shot me with his finger.
His hair is very unkempt.
- Now on Tuesday, August 27th, where were you?
- I was in Lincoln Park and there was a rally going on.
- Did you recognize any of the speakers?
- Jerry Rubin gave a speech, Phil Oaks sang,
and the person who identified himself as Bobby Seale spoke.
- I object to that because my lawyer is not here.
I have been denied my right
to defend myself in this courtroom.
I object to this man's testimony against me
because I have not been allowed my constitutional right.
- I repeat to you, sir, you have a lawyer.
Your lawyer is Mr. Kunstler.
- He does not represent me.
- Now you just keep on this way and--
- Keep on with what?
- Just sit down.
- Keep on what?
Keep on getting denied my constitutional rights.
- Will you be quiet?
- Now I still object.
I object because you know it's wrong.
You denied me my right to defend myself in this courtroom.
You think black people haven't got a mind.
Well we got big minds, good minds,
and we know how to come forth with constitutional rights.
I'm not going to be quiet.
- Are you getting all this, Miss Reporter?
- Yes, sir.
- I hope you got my part for the record, too.
Did you get it, ma'am?
- Yes, sir.
- Thank you.
- And that outburst also.
- I think you should understand
that we support Bobby Seale in this.
At least I do.
- I haven't asked for your advice, sir.
Please continue with the direct examination.
- Now calling your attention to Wednesday morning
at national mobile headquarters on the 28th of August.
What was said by whom?
- John Froines was talking about
how he purchased butyric acid
and that he's done it before for in hotels and restaurants.
He said it works really well in restaurants
'cause butyric acid smells like vomit.
He talked making tear gas,
Molotov cocktails, mace and other devices.
And David Dellinger said, it looks like we're not gonna have
to march around the amphitheater,
but we should have a march anyway to use it as a diversion
to get people out of Lincoln Park.
- Out of which park?
- Grant Park.
I'm sorry.
- Mr. Foran, do you believe one word of that?
- Your honor, may the record show the comment
from the defendant Dellinger.
- Yes, Mr. Dellinger has made several comments
from time to time.
The record--
- I asked Mr. Foran if he could possibly
believe one word of that?
I don't believe the witness believes it.
I don't believe Mr. Foran believes it.
- And continue to take his words.
I admonish you, sir, not to interrupt this trial
by your conversation or your remarks.
You are not permitted to speak
while your competent lawyer represents you.
- Hello, Daddy.
- Hey, partner.
- I wanna make a request, Judge Hoffman,
that my wife be let in with my son.
The Marshall has attempted to harass her.
- Mr. Marshall, you take care of the requests
as far as admission to the courtroom is concerned.
- In other words, my son can't come in, right?
- Mr. Marshall, I have not addressed this man.
Will you undertake to see what he wants
and do what is fair under the law?
Cross examine.
- You were expelled, were you not,
for throwing a university professor off a stage physically?
- No, sir, I was not.
- What were you expelled for?
- I was expelled for being with the group of people
that threw the president off the stage, sir.
- Now when you were participating in these discussions,
is it not true that you were receiving pay
from the police department of the city of Chicago?
- That is correct.
- By the way, prior to your coming into this courtroom,
how many discussions did you have
with the United States attorney
in this case regarding your testimony?
- There were about three.
- And is it not true that Mr. Foran said to you
that your previous reports and testimony
did not implicate the defendants enough
and that you should elaborate a little bit?
- No.
No, he didn't.
- No further questions.
- I would like to cross examine the witnesses.
- You have a lawyer here.
- That man is not my lawyer.
The man made statements against me.
Furthermore, you are violating title 42
United States criminal code
because it states that the black man cannot
be discriminated against in his legal defense.
Hey, hey.
Did you see me make a speech in Lincoln Park?
William.
Mr. William Frapperly, did you see me make a speech?
- Mr. Marshall, will you ask that--
- Did you see me make a speech on August 27th, Tuesday,
supposedly August 27th, Tuesday?
- You needn't answer any of those questions.
Let the record show--
- Let the record show that you are
violating my constitutional rights.
- I admonish you, sir,
that you have allowed contemptuous conduct.
- I admonish you.
I am not in contempt of nothing.
You are the one in contempt.
You are in contempt of the constitutional rights
of the mass of people in the United States.
- Do you want to listen to me?
- Why should I continue listening to you?
Unless you gonna give me my constitutional rights.
Let me defend myself.
- I'm warning you, sir, that the law--
- Instead of warning me, why don't you want me?
I have the right to defend myself.
- I am warning you that the court has the right to gag you.
- Gag?
- I don't wanna do that.
- Gag.
- Under the law, you maybe--
- Gag?
I'm being railroaded already.
- The court has the right and I am telling you--
- The court has no right whatever.
The court has no right to stop me
from speaking out on behalf of my constitutional rights.
- Court will recess until tomorrow morning.
- Everyone will rise.
- I am not rising.
I am not rising until he recognizes
my constitutional rights.
Why should I rise for him?
He's not recognizing my constitutional rights.
- See that he rises and that other one, too.
- Mr. Hayden, will you please rise?
- Get all of the defendants to rise.
And let the record show
that the defendant, Mr. Hayden, has not risen.
Mr. Kunstler, will you advise your clients to rise?
- The court please it is my understanding
that there is no legal obligation
of the defendants to rise so long
as its failure to rise is not disruptive.
- You advise your clients not to rise, do you?
- If your honor will direct me, I will advise them.
- I direct.
- Then I will pass on your direction.
I will now pass on your direction to them.
I have heard you direct me.
I cannot in good conscience do more than that.
They are free independent human beings
who must do as they please.
- Let the record show that none
of the defendants have risen.
The court will be in recess, Mr. Marshall.
- This was an American first.
Hear.
Your honorable judge Julius J. Hoffman and all rise.
Everyone does but eight.
They don't get up.
Ugh.
The empire's they're like ugh.
The whole world's just collapsed.
- It upset me.
It made me pretty pissed off that this fool can't see
that the sixth amendment of the constitution
of the United States says that every person
has a right to have legal counsel of choice,
what have you, et cetera, in a courtroom
while going to court.
Now what's wrong with you?
I mean, here's the rule.
If you violated the rules,
you are violating the tenets of share and share alike
and do unto others as you would have them to do you.
That's what you were doing.
- Brothers and sisters,
we got a real situation going on up here.
Now I want you to understand
and appreciate the fact that you got a right
to observe this trial and see what's going on.
Am I right?
- Right.
- But I don't want you cats out there to get upset
and emotional and start doing anything
that's out of the ordinary.
Am I right?
- Right.
- If anyone attacks us, you know what to do.
We defend ourselves.
That's a principle of the party.
We defend ourselves whether they have guns or not.
We defend ourselves.
If they make us leave the courtroom, we just leave.
But be cool because I got to do this myself.
- Right on.
- Your honor, there's 25 Marshall's in here now
and they all got guns.
- Your honor, we are objecting to this armed camped aspect.
- It is not an armed camp.
- Military state.
- If the court, please, before you came into this courtroom.
If the court, please.
Bobby Seale stood up and addressed this group
and he told these people in the audience
that if he's attacked, they know what to do.
- You lie and I told them to defend themselves.
You are rotten, racist, paint, fascist liar.
I told them, I said, if they were attacked,
they have a right to defend themselves.
And I hope the record carries that.
And I hope the records shows
that tricky Dick Schultz is a liar
and we have a right to defend ourselves.
And if you attack me, I will defend myself.
- If the court please, that is what he said
just as he related.
- You darn right.
- Let the record show the tone in Mr. Seale's voice
was one of shrieking and pounding on the table.
That'll be dealt with appropriately
at sometime in the future.
- The record should indicate
that Mr. Schultz stood at this lectern
and raised his voice quite loudly in this courtroom.
- Yes, I think he raised his voice,
of what he said was the truth.
I can't blame him for raising his voice.
- Why don't you recognize my constitutional rights?
- I have recognized every constitutional right you have.
- You have not.
I wanna cross examine.
- All I have to tell you is this.
If you speak once again, we will take such steps
as are indicated in the circumstance.
- If you try to suppress my constitutional right to speak up
then I can only see you as a bigot, a racist,
and a fascist as clearly indicated in the court record.
- Mr. Fineglass.
- Weinglass.
- Weinglass, will you please continue
with the cross examination of the witness if you desire to?
- Now you testified that you spent
a lot of time I believe with John Froines,
one of the defendants in this case.
- Sometime, yes.
- Isn't it a fact that you know
from what John Froines told you
that he doesn't even know how to make a firebomb
or a Molotov cocktail?
- He said he didn't know how to make a Molotov cocktail.
- I have nothing further.
- I wanna request again, demand,
that I be able to cross examine the witness.
You got Benjamin Franklin and George Washington
sitting up there on a picture behind you
and they were both slave owners.
That's what they were.
And you are acting in the same manner
by denying me my constitutional right.
- Mr. Seale, I have admonished you--
- I have a right to defend myself in this courtroom.
- What might happen to you if you keep on talking.
Young man, if you keep this up--
- Look old man, you being exposed to the public
and to the world that you do not care
about people's constitutional rights to defend themselves.
- Have him sit down, Mr. Marshall.
- Why don't you recognize my constitutional right?
I have a right to defend myself.
I have a right to cross examine the witness.
- Show the court please--
- I have a right to defend myself.
- Bobby Seale in his seat.
- I still have a right--
- Putting him in the chair.
The defendant Dellinger physically attempted
to interfere with them pushing the marshalls out of the way.
- I have that right.
- Will you, Mr. Marshall, have that man seated?
- Let the record show the defendant Dellinger
is doing it again the same thing just now.
- I saw it myself.
- Your honor, the overall umbrella of intimidation
is denying these defendants any chance of a fair trial.
- Your honor, I've never in 20 years of practice
heard lawyers like Mr. Kunstler and Mr. Weinglass
refuse to direct their clients to conduct themselves
with courtesy and decency in the courtroom.
As lawyers, our major obligation
is our oath to uphold the law.
And if the law's to be changed,
then this government offers opportunity to change law by law
and not by disruptive tactics.
- Can I say something?
Can I say something to the court?
- No, thank you.
I have been called a racist and a fascist.
He has pointed to the picture of George Washington behind me
and called him a slave owner.
- They were a slave owner.
- As though I had anything to do with that.
- You got him up there.
- He is known as the father of this country.
I would think it was a pretty good picture
to have in the United States district court.
- We all share a common guilt, your honor.
- I didn't think I would ever live to sit on a bench
and be in a courtroom where George Washington
was assailed by a defendant and the judge was criticized
for having his portrait on the wall.
- All I am saying is that these defendants
are not for disruption.
They are for peace.
- Say what about section 1982, title 42 of the code
where it states that a black man cannot
be discriminated against in my legal defense,
in any courtroom in America?
- Mr. Seale, do you know--
- The law protects my right.
Why don't you recognize that?
- Mr. Seale, do you want to stop?
Or do you want me to direct them to direct the marshall?
- Man, I wanna argue the point about this,
so you can come to an understanding about the facts
that I have a right to defend myself.
- Take that defendant into the room in there
and deal with him as he should be dealt with.
- Help.
I still wanna be represented.
I still wanna represent myself.
I wanna represent myself.
I got a right.
I got a right.
I got a right.
- The court will be in recess for a few minutes.
- Your honor, if Mr. Seale would express his willingness
to be quiet will the court entertain the possibility
of Mr. Seale being unbound and ungagged?
- I have tried so hard with all my heart
to get him to sit in this court
and be tried fairly and impartially.
And I have been greeted on every occasion
with all sorts of vicious invective.
Mr. Seale, all of your constitutional rights have been
and will be preserved in this trial.
I assure you that if you have any evidence,
when the time comes, we will listen attentively.
If you will assure the court that you will be respectful
and not cause disorder, I am willing
that you resume your former place at the table.
Will you, sir?
- I have a right to speak on behalf of myself.
- If you will give me your assurance,
will you please indicate by raising your head up and down?
- Give me your assurance--
- I can't understand you, sir.
- I wanna defend myself.
I have the right to speak on behalf
of my constitutional rights.
- Mr. Marshall, I don't think you have
accomplished your purpose by that contrivance.
We will take another recess.
- I wanna speak on behalf of my constitutional right.
You can't deny me my rights.
You can't deny me my constitutional rights.
- Bobby Seale's only attempt in that courtroom
was an attempt to represent himself.
- Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
I must tell you, the law requires
that the judge maintain order
and take such steps as are warranted.
Accordingly, the marshals have endeavored
to maintain order in the manner
that you see here in the courtroom.
- Your honor.
I move on behalf of the other seven defendants
for the immediate removal of the gag
and the arm and the leg cuffs.
Mr. Seale was only attempting to assert his rights
to self defense under the constitution.
- I direct you, ladies and gentlemen,
not to hold it against any of the seven other defendants
when these measures are taken with respect
to defendant Mr. Seale.
These measures indicate no evidence
of his guilt or lack of guilt.
- The Marshall's would take an hour,
maybe two hours before the trial began
trying to force this gauze into his mouth.
- I said, no man.
No, man.
I said, man, what the fuck going on?
No.
- What are we trying to prove, your honor?
- We won't go in there and sit in the trial
while Bobby Seale is bound and gagged.
- Meanwhile, Bobby and the Panthers
are saying don't do anything.
- Mr. Frapperly, you indicated to the prosecutor
that you received instructions from your superiors
not to participate in any violent actions.
Is that correct?
- That is correct.
- Now do you consider the forcible removal of a president
of a university from the speakers lectern a violent action?
If your honor.
If your honor, please.
The buckles on the leather strap
that's holding Mr. Seale's hand is digging into his hand.
Could he be assisted?
- The Marshall concludes that he needs assistance.
Of course.
- Your honor, are we going to stop the medieval torture
that is going on in this courtroom?
Your honor, this is no longer a court of order.
- They spit in his elbow.
Bite his mouth.
- Your honor, this is a big disgrace.
- Created by Mr. Kunstler.
- Created by none other than you.
- Why don't you come down here and watch this, judge?
- You fascists dogs.
You low life son of a bitch.
- Somebody come protect him.
- Your honor, may the record show
that that comment was by Mr. Dellinger.
- May record show that Foran's a Nazi.
- And that is Mr. Rubin speaking.
- Everything you say will be taken down.
- Your honor, he's being choked to death.
- Cruel and unusual punishment.
You're a fascist dog, judge.
- You already gagged him?
Why don't you just kill him, huh?
- You are not permitted to address the court, Mr. Hoffman.
- This isn't a court.
It's a neon oven.
- That was the defendant Hoffman who spoke.
- This disruption started when these guys got into overkill.
Don't you see it's the same thing as last year in Chicago?
This is the same thing.
- Mr. Hoffman, you are ordered to refrain from speaking.
Mr. Seale, you mind looking over here?
I would like to get from you, sir,
your assurance as an American citizen,
that you will not be guilty of any disruptive act
during the continuance of this trial.
May I have your assurance?
Let the record show that the defendant did not reply.
- If your honor, please.
- What is it, Mr. Weinstein?
Weinberg.
- Weinglass, your honor.
If your honor, please.
Mr. Seale was endeavoring to answer the court by writing,
so I would like to read the note that Mr. Seale has written.
I want and demand my right to defend myself.
- I am calling for an end to this.
I don't think you have seen it
in your experience nor have I in mine.
- He is being treated in accordance with the law.
- Not in accordance with the constitution
of the United States, which is the supreme law.
- I don't need someone to come here from New York
or wherever you come from to tell me
that there is a constitution in the United States.
Why should I have to go through a trial
and be assailed in an obscene manner?
- But your honor, that is the reaction
of a black man not being permitted to defend himself.
If you had said defend yourself,
none of this would have happened.
- I had lived a long time and you are the first person
who has ever suggested that I have discriminated
against a black man.
You don't know me, sir, but I am as good a friend
to the black people in this community as they have.
And if you don't believe it, read the books.
Come into my chambers and I will show you on the wall
why one of the great newspapers of the city
said editorially about me in connection
with a school segregation case.
- Please your honor, this is not a time for self praise
on either side of the lectern.
- It isn't self praise, sir.
It is defense.
I won't let a lawyer stand before the bar
and charge me with being a bigot.
- For God sake.
We are seeking the solution to a human problem,
not whether you feel good or bad.
- The black man and white man can walk down the same.
- That third day was a scene,
but it caused me not to be gagged the fourth day.
- The court has done its best
to prevent the repeated efforts
to delay and obstruct this trial.
As we all know, the defendant Bobby G. Seale
has been guilty of conduct in the presence of the court
of so grave at character as to continually disrupt
the orderly administration of justice.
- That's a lie.
I stood up and spoke on behalf of myself.
- You are making it very difficult for me, Mr. Seale.
- You are making it very difficult for me, Judge Hoffman.
- I find that the act statements
and conduct of the defendant Seale
each constitute contempt to this court.
The deliberate, willful attack
upon the administration of justice,
and accordingly the defendant Seale will be committed
to the custody of the attorney general for imprisonment.
Mr. Seale, you are free to address the court
on the question of your punishment.
- How come I couldn't speak before?
- This is a special occasion.
- If you're talking about putting me in jail,
I have nothing to say about that.
I have something to say about the fact
that I want to defend myself still.
- The court will be in recess.
- Wait a minute.
I got a right.
What's this cat trying to pull now?
I'm leaving?
I can't stay?
I demand an immediate trial right now.
- I'm sorry.
I can't try two cases at the same time, sir.
- I have a right to go through with this trial.
I want an immediate trial.
You can't call it a mistrial.
I'm put in four years for nothing.
You gonna put me in jail?
Man, I want my coat.
- Free Bobby.
- Free Bobby.
Free Bobby.
Free Bobby.
Free Bobby.
Free Bobby.
Free Bobby.
Free Bobby.
Free Bobby.
Free Bobby.
- This was the human spirit winning
over the overwhelming power of the state.
They just couldn't shut the guy up so they chucked him.
Got him out.
- I'm assigned to the subversive unit.
I joined veterans for peace.
I'm on the executive board of the Chicago peace council
and the steering committee of the new mobilization.
- While a member of these organizations,
were you in your undercover capacity
as a Chicago police officer?
- Yes, sir, I was.
- Would you relate to the court please
what you heard at the meetings at which you were present?
- Well, Rennie Davis said that the people
should have a wall to wall sit in
in front of the Conrad Hilton.
They could break windows, pull fire alarm boxes,
stone police cars, break street lights.
Mr. Rubin said that they could start fires at the loop.
Mr. Froines said that they could purchase ammonia
and throw this at the police.
Lee Wiener said that they could let the air out of tires
or jam up traffic.
Tom Hayden said that if the city doesn't give in
to our demands it would be war on the streets.
Mr. Dellinger said that we should have the march
and when stopped by the police, we sit down
and practice the old forms
of non-resistance and nonviolence.
- Like indecent exposure, does it?
- Mr. Kunstler is laughing so he can influence the jury
with the impression that this is absurd.
- It is absurd.
He's a vaudeville actor.
- I like being here.
This is very interesting.
- That is the best statement
I have heard here during this trial.
You said you enjoy being here?
- Sure.
It's good theater.
- Oh.
Is it a fact that what makes your memory so accurate today
is the 14 hours you spent
in discussing your testimony with the prosecution?
- Objection.
- I sustain the objection.
- Now I ask you, officer,
to look at the seven men at that table.
Isn't it a fact that in the entire period of time
that you spent with them and in their company
at their meetings, the streets, the park
that you never saw one of them
commit a single act of violence.
You never saw any of them strike a policeman.
- No, sir.
- Did any of them ever throw a rock?
- I don't believe I saw that.
- Did you ever see any of them break a window?
- No, sir.
- Did you ever see any of them making a fire bomb?
- No, sir.
- Little incidents were breaking out quickly
between police officers and members of the crowd.
There was spitting and shoving and pushing and fighting.
And the officers responded and they charged the crowd
and the crowd charge back and a serious disorder broke out.
- Isn't it true that you heard the national guard
or somebody in the national guard was trigger happy
and released teargas where the crowd
was proceeding orderly out of the park?
- I have no recollection of hearing that.
The thing that continually crossed my mind
is this unlawful assembly in the street.
That was foremost in my mind.
I had no intention of permitting a mob
to take over the street.
- Now did there come a time when night clubs
were used on the people?
- There were some.
Some use of night batons, yes.
- There was quite a lot, wasn't there?
- I don't know.
Quite a bit.
That was some.
- Did you yourself see any night batons
land on people's heads?
- Oh yes.
- Isn't it true that you saw the Chicago police officers
beating people while they were already on the ground?
- In some instances, yes.
But the person on the ground was kicking and fighting back.
- Is there not some training information
on the proper use of a baton?
- Yes.
- A training document says never swing the baton as a club.
Is that true?
- Yes, but it's not an absolute prohibition.
- Being very specific, what did you find wrong
with what your police did if anything?
- Well, I really feel badly that the police were unable
to control this vicious, mean, willful,
unlawful crowd without injury.
That I deeply regret.
As far as the police tactics,
some officers went a little beyond
what I expect them to do as professional police officers.
As a result of that incident,
we have restrengthen our training program.
Each and every day, the sun changes,
so police procedures must be revised
in order to keep pace with what's happening in the country.
Revolution is very possible.
Terror is very close to us.
- Your honor, a very interesting speech.
I really don't mind, except I do think
that it's not responsive.
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- We were facing 10 years in prison.
- The goal of our defense was
in a sense to recreate Chicago.
- With expert witnesses on the counterculture.
- We decided to use the trial
to put the government on trial.
- I was helping a boy off the ground.
I was facing away out from the benches.
At this point, I turned around toward the benches
and I saw a man with his back to me
bending over a girl on the ground.
This was a man in a business suit.
Also bending over the girl on the ground
was policemen holding her down
on the ground and hitting her.
I ran towards them shouting to stop.
And the plain clothes man turned around
and knocked me on my back.
And he took me by the hair and he spun me around
and he said take this one, too.
Arrest them both.
He called the other girl a black bitch.
And he said, we know how to treat you animals.
- What is your present occupation?
- I'm an assistant safety director
for a candy company.
- Directing your attention to August 28th, 1968
in the afternoon where were you
and what if anything occurred?
- I was in Grand Park.
A speaker was telling a crowd to back up,
sit down and was asking the police
to please clear out of the area.
- Could you identify the speaker whose voice you heard?
- I believe it was David Dellinger.
- Now after you saw the crowd move,
what if anything, did you see?
- A platoon of helmeted police marched in
and stopped about 20 yards from the crowd.
Another platoon came marching in
maybe 30 yards behind them.
They were counting cadence
and slapping their sticks in their hands.
- Then what, if anything, did you see the platoon do?
- They marched directly into the crowd in step.
Broke ranks when they hit the line of marshals
in front of the crowd and chopped their way 100 yards
into a tightly packed crowd, beating people all the way.
- Wisconsin.
- Mr. Chairman, most delegates to this convention
do not know that thousands of young people
are being beaten in the streets of Chicago.
- Wisconsin does not press acknowledged for that purpose.
- They were just covered with blood.
His head was split open.
His shirt was covered with blood.
- At that point, I thought I wasn't gonna make it.
- I'm a member of the British parliament.
I was first elected in 1964.
- Were you in Chicago during the period
of the democratic national convention?
- Yes.
- Well now.
We call our senators here senator
and we call our congressman congressman.
- You can call me honorable member
for Rochester and Chatham.
- Oh, that's a little long.
I'll just have to call you a Madam witness.
- I was just trying to make it easy for you.
- Don't make it easy for me.
That's not your responsibility.
- Mine's to tell the truth.
- Would you indicate what you saw
on the street Wednesday, August 28th.
- Well I went out across.
What is it?
Balboa Street.
I crossed the street and went down
to the pavement off Michigan Avenue.
I saw a whole crowd of people across the street
and I saw a line of police.
I went up to one of the young persons then.
I asked them what was happening.
I just said, what's going on?
Well, first of all, I'd had the, you know,
the CS gas and I've been coughing
and choking with the other people.
And then I was grabbed from behind.
A voice said move along there.
And I said, well, I was just talking to these young people.
And then I was picked up, grabbed and thrown
into a police wagon.
Those are the facts, my lord.
- I teach and recite poetry and lecture at universities.
- Did you ever study abroad?
- Oh yes.
I studied in India and Japan.
I studied mantra yoga, meditation exercise.
Sitting quietly breathing exercises
to quiet the body and calm the mind.
- Did you have any occasion to meet with Abbie Hoffman?
- Yeah.
- Do you recall what Mr. Hoffman said
in the course of conversation?
- Mm hm.
Yippee.
He said the politics was becoming theater and magic.
That it was the manipulation of imagery
through the mass media that was confusing
and hypnotizing the people in the United States,
making them accept a war,
which they really didn't believe in.
And that we ourselves might get together in Chicago
and invite teachers to present different ideas
of what's wrong with the planet.
What we can do to stop the pollution crisis.
What we can do to stop the war.
- After he spoke to you, what if anything,
was your response to this suggestion?
- Well.
I was worried whether or not
the whole scene would become violent.
I was worried whether the government would let us
do something that was funnier or prettier.
- Object, your honor.
Ask that it be stricken.
It's not responsive.
- Yes, I sustain the objection.
- Sir, that was our conversation.
- Now directing your attention to Sunday, August 25th.
What did you do in the park?
- Well, there was an appearance
of a great mass of policemen going
through the center of the park.
I was afraid.
I felt the adrenaline run through my body,
so I sat down on a green hillside
with a group of younger people.
And I began chanting the magic password,
which cuts through all emergency illusion.
Ohm.
Ohm.
- All right, we've had a demonstration.
- All right.
- From here on, I object.
- I sustain the objection.
- If the court pleased there's been much testimony
by the government's witnesses whether there were stones
or people throwing things or using obscenities.
Why can't we also hear what's being said
in the area of calming the crowd?
- I have no objection to the two ohms that we've heard.
However, I just don't want it to go on all morning.
- The two however you characterize what the witness did
may remain on the record and he may not continue
in the same vein.
Now at approximately 8:00 p.m.,
what was occurring in the park?
- There was a great crowd of people listening
to ministers conduct the ceremony.
Everybody was seated around the cross,
which was in the center of hundreds
of people who were singing.
♪ We shall overcome ♪
And then, oh after a short period of time,
there was a burst of smoke and tear gas around the cross.
And I turned and I said, they have gas.
The cross of Christ.
- Your honor, I have some materials
that I'll have to get to properly carry
on my cross examination of this witness.
It will take me some time.
- Are you suggesting a recess?
- I would think, yes, your honor.
- All right, we will go until two o'clock.
- Your honor, we asked for five minutes two days ago
and you refused to give it to us.
- You will have to cease that disrespectful tone.
- Not disrespect.
It's an angry tone, your honor.
- Yes, it is.
It is.
I will grant the motion to the government.
- You refused us five minutes.
Why the different treatment?
- You are shouting at the court.
- Your honor, everybody has raised their voice
in this court room including your honor.
- I have never shouted at you during this trial.
- You have raised your voice in this courtroom.
- You have been disrespectful.
- It is not disrespectful.
- It's sometimes even worse than that.
- Oh, your honor.
- Ohm.
- Will you stop off the witness stand?
- He's just trying to calm us both down.
- I needn't no calming down.
♪ I do believe ♪
- Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
- Mr. Ginsburg.
Your name does kind of the yippee religious leader.
Do you think that that's a fair designation?
- Oh no.
Well, leader is a word we try to get away from.
I mean, we tried to get away from the authoritarian thing.
It was more like.
- Religious teacher.
- Religious experimenter, huh.
- Now concerning poetry that you've written.
There's a poem called the Night Apple.
- The Night Apple, yes.
- Would you recite that poem for the jury?
- Last night I dreamed of the one I love
for seven long years, but I did not see a face.
I saw the familiar presence of the body.
Sweat, skin, eyes, feces, sperm, saliva.
All one odor and mortal tastes.
- Could you explain to the jury
what the religious significance of that poem is?
- If you would take a wet dream
as a religious experience I could.
It was a description of a wet dream, sir.
- Do you have a poem that you entitled Howl?
- Howl, yes, but Howl is a big poem.
I don't know it.
- Could you recite whatever fragments you do recall?
- Yes.
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness.
Starving.
Hysterical.
Naked.
Who shrieked with delight in police cars
for committing no other crime
than their own wild cooking pederasty intoxication.
Who protested the narcotic tobacco haze of capitalism.
What sphinx of cement and aluminum bashed open these skulls
and ate their brains and imagination?
Moloch, solitude, filth, ugliness.
Ash cans and unobtainable dollars.
Children screaming in hallways.
Old men weeping in parks.
Boys sobbing in war.
Moloch, Moloch, Moloch.
The nightmare of Moloch.
Moloch the loveless.
Moloch the heavy judger of men.
Moloch the crossbones soulless jailhouse
and congress of sorrows.
Moloch whose buildings are judgment.
Moloch the vast stone of war.
Moloch the stunned governments.
- My name is Abbie.
I'm an orphan of America.
- Where do you reside?
- I live in Woodstock nation.
- Will you tell the court and the jury where it is?
- Sure.
It's a nation of alienated young people.
We carry it around with us as a state of mind,
much like the Sioux Indians carried around
the Sioux nation with them.
It's a nation dedicated to cooperation versus competition,
to the idea that people should have a better means
of exchange than property or money.
- When were you born?
- Psychologically 1960.
- Between your birth in 1960,
what if anything occurred in your life?
- Nothing.
I believe it's called an American education.
- Objection.
- Objection sustained.
- Now can you tell the court and jury,
what is your present occupation?
- Yes, I am a cultural revolutionary.
Well.
I'm really a defendant.
Full time.
- Now taking you back to 1960.
- Objection.
- I sustain the objection.
- Your honor, this date has great relevance to the trial.
I'm gonna bring him down through Chicago.
- Not in my presence you're not gonna bring him down.
I sustain the objection to the question.
- My background has nothing to do with my state of mind?
- Will you remain quiet while I'm making a ruling?
I know you have no respect for me.
- Your honor, this is totally unwarranted.
I think your remarks call for a mistrial.
- Motion will be denied.
- Now directing your attention to September 1967.
What were you doing?
- I was doing a number of things.
Among them was a meeting I had with defendant Jerry Rubin.
Jerry said that the war in Vietnam was not just an accident,
but that it was a byproduct of a kind of system.
A capitalist system in the country
and that we had to begin to put forth new kinds of values,
especially for the young people in this country
to make a kind of society
in which a Vietnam war would not be possible.
I said that America was in the last stages of its empire
and that it was bent on devouring its children.
I said that the Pentagon is a five-sided symbol
of evil in most religions and that we might be able
to approach this from a religious point of view.
If we got large numbers of people to surround the Pentagon,
we might be able to exercise it of its evil spirits.
So we measured the Pentagon to see how many people
would take to fit around it.
Of course we only have to measure one side
because then you just multiply one times five
and you know depending on five sides.
You know what happened?
Do you know happened?
Surprise.
We got arrested.
Do you know it's illegal to measure the Pentagon?
I didn't know it up to that point.
What a surprise.
Well anyway, when we got arrested,
they said, what do you think you're doing?
And we said, see we want to get a permit
to raise the Pentagon 300 feet in the air.
They said what?
How about 10?
So we said, okay.
- Your honor, I would ask Mr. Weinglass,
please get on with the trial of this case
and stop playing around with raising the Pentagon 10 feet
or 300 feet off the ground.
- Your honor, I am glad to see Mr. Schultz finally concedes
that things like levitating the Pentagon building,
putting LSD in the water, 10,000 people walking nude
on Lake Michigan and a $200,000 bribe attempt
are all playing around.
I am willing to concede that fact
that it was all playing around.
It was a play idea of this witness.
And if he's willing to concede it, we can all go home.
- I sustain the objection.
- At this time, we would like
to introduce a film by Abbie Hoffman.
- Great.
- We regard this to be absolutely essential
and indispensable to our case
that nothing better shows Abbie Hoffman's state of mind.
♪ The young man started growing ♪
♪ The youngblood started flowing ♪
♪ But I am ♪
- The yippees decided
to enter their own candidate
in the presidential sweepstakes.
- The film is not serious I conceded,
but neither was the yippee myth.
- The film will not be admitted as evidence.
- Abbie Hoffman, prior to coming to Chicago from April 1968
onto the week of the convention,
did you enter into an agreement with David Dellinger,
John Froines, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin, Lee Wiener,
or Rennie Davis to come to the city of Chicago
for the purpose of encouraging and promoting violence
during the convention week?
- An agreement?
- Yes.
- Couldn't agree on lunch.
- I have no further questions.
- Cross examination.
- Go 'head, Dick.
- Did you symbolically urinate on the Pentagon, Mr. Hoffman?
- I symbolically urinate on the Pentagon?
- Yes.
- I didn't get that close.
Pee on the walls of the Pentagon?
You're getting to be out of site actually.
- Are you done, Mr. Hoffman?
- I'm done when you are.
- The fact is Mr. Hoffman, you were trying
to create a situation where the state
and the United States government would have to bring
on the national guard in order to protect the delegates
so that it would appear that the convention
had to be held under military conditions.
Isn't that a fact?
- Come on, you can do that with a yo-yo in this country.
It's quite easy.
Just look around this courtroom.
Look at all the troops around.
- Mr. Hoffman, while you were in Chicago,
you deliberately told your police tales
that you had had a fight with Rubin.
- Yes, deliberately.
- In order to destroy any charges of conspiracy.
Isn't that right?
Isn't that right, Mr. Hoffman?
- Yes.
Yes, God, I was so sneaky.
Yes, I told that to the policemen.
It didn't work obviously.
- Mr. Hoffman, while you were negotiating
with city officials, you were secretly attending meetings
and planning for spontaneous acts of violence
during the democratic national convention.
Isn't that right?
- How do you plan for spontaneous acts of violence?
I would have no idea how to do that.
- You wrote, did you not, that you dismissed the thought
of attempting to take over a building
right across the street from the police headquarters.
Isn't that right, Mr. Hoffman?
- Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Did you say that I had thoughts
or that I wrote that I had the thoughts?
You know, there is a difference.
- It is a convenient difference, isn't it, Mr. Hoffman?
- I don't know what you mean by that, Mr. Schultz.
I never been on trial for my thoughts before.
- Your honor, that's outside the scope
of the direct examination.
- Mr. Weingrass, I overrule the objection.
- Wine grass.
Great combination.
- I order you to answer the question, sir.
You are required by law.
- What?
I just got a yes or a no.
All my years on this stand,
I never heard a ruling like that.
- Mr. Hoffman, isn't it a fact
that one of the reasons why you came to Chicago
was simply to wreck American society?
- Oy.
My feeling at the time and still is
that society is gonna wreck itself.
I've said that on a number of occasions.
I said that our role is to survive
while society comes tumbling down around us.
Our role is to survive.
- No matter what constituency
in America that I'm organized.
No matter what community.
I'm always confronted with that right off.
That we can't win.
That they're always gonna win.
The utility company wins all the time.
It's the way it's supposed to be.
Washington gets its way.
It's the most anti-democratic attitude.
And you think then you wonder like how,
where they pick this up along the way?
I didn't.
I mean, I must have fell off the truck
because I don't believe it for a minute.
- Your honor, is it possible
to conduct this direct examination
without having all these marshals
standing directly behind me?
We haven't had that for the other witnesses.
- I leave the matter of security, Mr. Kunstler
to the U.S. Marshall.
I find him a very competent man.
- What is your name?
- Richard Joseph Daley.
- What is your occupation?
- I am the mayor of the city of Chicago.
- Who is the chairman of the park commissions in 1968?
- A proper designation is president not chairman.
The president was William McFetridge.
- Is that the same William McFetridge
who announced your first candidacy for mayor in 1954?
- Objection, your honor.
- I sustain the objection.
- Is it true, Mayor Daley, that Mr. McFetridge once said,
the parks are not for the centers?
- Objection.
- I sustain the objection.
- Mayor Daley.
- She didn't do anything.
- Your honor, what is happening?
- Leave her alone.
- Will you let the Marshall take care of the rear row?
- Move it.
- Hey, what you doing?
- What about that?
- He's hitting Greg in the face.
- I don't understand.
Your honor, we have information that none
of the people doing the removing are not Marshalls,
but employees of the city of Chicago.
- If everybody will be quiet and listen
to the testimony of the witness, there will be no disorder.
Will you please proceed, sir,
with the direct examination of this witness?
Otherwise, I will direct the witness to leave the stand.
- Mayor Daley.
On April 15th, did you not order your police department
to shoot to kill and shoot to maim black people
in the city of Chicago?
- Your honor, I object to the question on the grounds
that it is leading suggestive and material.
- Your honor, I have to ask a leading question
in order to move.
- No, no, you don't have to.
I won't permit you to.
- Then at the moment I move
that Mayor Daley be declared a hostile witness.
- What?
The mayor's been the most friendly witness.
- I want to indicate the word hostile, your honor.
All of the defendants feel Mayor Daley is a hostile witness.
Hostile in the sense that they attribute to him
everything that happened to them,
inclusion with other people
in the city of Chicago last summer.
- Don't know whether the witness is hostile as a witness.
He may have been hostile as a mayor,
but he may not be hostile as a witness.
This matter has been that of a gentlemen.
Motion of the defense will be denied.
- Mayor Daley, on the 28th of August 1968.
- We wouldn't have to have Gestapo tactics.
- Did you say to Senator Rivercock.
- Your honor.
- Did you say that and quote, "Fuck you, you Jew?
"Listen to that.
"You love me, motherfucker.
"Go home."
Unquote.
- Yeah, go.
- Foolish, improper questions.
- Court will recess for 15 minutes.
- Just please.
Just go.
- Yeah.
Hey, hey.
What's with all these lawyers and everything here, huh?
Why don't you and me settle this right here?
Let's go.
Come on.
- I was at the Americana Hotel in New York City
attending a press conference.
It was to announce the formation of what we have now come
to know of as the yippee movement.
- And what did you do at that press conference?
- Well.
♪ Where have all the flowers gone ♪
♪ Long time passing ♪
♪ Where have all ♪
- Just a minute, young lady.
♪ The flowers gone ♪
♪ Long time ago ♪
♪ Where have all the flowers gone ♪
♪ Gone to graveyard ♪
- I'm sorry.
Judge would like to speak to you.
- We don't allow any singing in this court.
I'm sorry.
We're not here to be entertained.
We are trying a very important case.
- The song is not an entertainment, your honor.
It's a song of peace and what happens
to men and women during war time.
- I forbid her from singing during this trial.
- The first time I came to the city of Chicago
was to visit the international amphitheater
in a poultry judging contest in 1956.
I had just won the Eastern United States
poultry judging contest in four H.
I was 16.
- Now directing your attention
to the evening of November 20th, 1967,
could you relate the words you spoke?
- I began by holding up a small steel ball.
It was green.
About the size of a tennis ball.
And I said this bomb was dropped
on a city of 100,000 people.
A city called Danang.
I said it was delivered by an American fighter jet.
And that when this cluster bomb exploded
about 640 of these steel balls were spewed into the sky.
Now one of these steel balls, I explained,
was roughly three times the power
of an old fashioned hand grenade.
Now with 640 of them going off,
you can spray 250,000 square yards
with steel pellets and shrapnel.
Every living thing exposed will die,
whether it's a water buffalo or a water buffalo boy.
If this bomb were to go off in this room,
everyone in the room would die,
but it wouldn't destroy the lecture podium.
Wouldn't damage the walls.
And ceiling, the floor, it takes life,
but it leaves the institution.
It's the ideal weapon for the mentality
that reasons that life is less precious than property.
Then I said that I, as an American citizen,
am deeply perturbed that we live in a country
where our own government's lying to American people.
I said, I'm going to the democratic national convention
because I want the world to know
that there are thousands of young people
in this country who do not want
to see a rigged convention rubber stamp the war.
- Isn't it a fact that your plan in Chicago
was to combine the peacefulness of Gandhi
and the violence of active resistance?
Isn't that a fact?
- No, it's not a fact.
In fact, that's not even close.
And you know it.
- Your honor.
May we strike that?
He whispered to the court reporter and you know it.
- No, I made that man to man to Mr. Foran.
- Your honor, ask the jury to disregard that
since as a lawyer in court, I can't properly respond to it.
- I hope after this trial,
you can properly respond, Mr. Foran.
I really do.
- I don't know what you're.
- That you and I can sit down
and talk about what happened in Chicago and why it happened.
- Mr. Witness.
- I'd like to do that very much.
- Mr. Witness.
- Your honor.
- Do you hear me, sir?
- Yes, I do.
- You didn't respond to--
- I'm sorry.
- I don't accept your apologies.
- Isn't it a fact that all the vile and vulgar propaganda
that the yippees were passing out
was to make the authorities look repressive?
- Sir, no one had to make that city look repressive.
The city was repressive.
- You and your people wanted violence in Lincoln Park.
Didn't you?
- Your questions embarrass me.
They're so terrible.
They really do.
- Well answer it.
- It's my belief that it was you
who wanted the violence, Mr. Foran, not me.
I did not want violence.
- You did want to impose an international humiliation
on the people that rule this country.
Isn't that correct?
- I'm afraid our government has already humiliated itself
in the international community, sir.
Can't you understand?
It's so simple.
I'm just trying to find a way that this generation
can make this country something better than what it's been.
- Ralph Abernathy.
He had been the leader of the mule train.
That was the demonstration by the Southern Christian
leadership conference of poor people.
- Your honor.
We had originally contacted Dr. Ralph Abernathy
to be a witness but he was out of the country.
He has just returned.
He is arriving at this moment at O'Hare airport.
We think his testimony is crucial.
- I certainly am not going to wait for him.
There have been several witnesses called during this trial
whose testimony could not even be presented to the jury.
Singers, performers.
I'll deny your motion.
- I think that what you have just said
is about the most outrageous statement
that I have ever heard from a bench
and I'm going to have my say right now.
I'm trembling.
I'm so outraged for you to say on a technicality
that we cannot put Dr. Abernathy on the stand.
Dr. Abernathy is president
of the Southern Christian leadership movement.
He is chairman of the mobilization against war.
He has relevant testimony.
I know this is not a fair trial.
I know it in my heart.
And I am going to return to my chair
with the full realization that everything I have learned
throughout my life has gone for naught.
That there is no meaning in this court.
That there is no law in this court.
- Out with those applauders.
- Hey, I applauded too, your honor.
Throw me out.
- Your honor, may we proceed
with a rebuttal case for the government?
- Yes, you may.
- Now calling your attention
to Wednesday, August 28th at 5:45.
Did you have occasion to see David Dellinger?
- I did.
He was confronting me at the head of the march.
- Did you see where Dellinger went?
- He left with the head of the group
that were carrying the flag.
- Bullshit.
That's an absolute lie.
- Did you get that, Miss Reporter?
- Let's argue about what you stand for and what I stand for,
but let's not go making things up like that.
- All of those remarks were made
from the presence of the court and jury by Mr. Dellinger.
- Sometimes the human spirit can stand so much, your honor.
I think David Dellinger has reached--
- I have never heard anymore
than a half a century of the bar
a man using profanity in this court.
- You haven't sat here as a defendant
and listen to lies on the witness stand.
- You're a snake.
And we have to try and put you in jail for 10 years
for telling lies about us, Dick Schultz.
- Be quiet, Mr. Dellinger.
- When this trial is over, the judge will go to Florida,
but if he has his way, the rest of us will go to jail.
And what we're fighting for is not just us,
but for all the rest of the people in this country
who are being oppressed.
- Take that man into custody, Mr. Marshall.
Take him into custody.
- Into custody?
- Into custody.
- Go 'head, Dick Schultz.
Just put everybody in jail.
- Dick Schultz is a Nazi if I ever knew one.
- You brought this on, your honor.
This is your fault.
This is exactly what happened in Chicago.
- This court is bullshit.
- There he is saying the same word.
- No, no, I said it.
- David Dellinger did not make that last remark.
- Davis.
It was the defendant Davis.
- Everything in this court is bullshit.
- Clear the courtroom.
- You can jail a revolutionary, Julie,
but you can't jail a revolution.
- You're a disgrace.
You would've served Hitler better.
- That was Mr. Hoffman.
- You damn right it was.
- I saw him and I heard him.
- Hey stunk.
- Mr. Hoffman.
- Stick that up your bowling ball, pal.
Hey Julie, how are your war stocks doing?
- Mr. Marshall, order him to remain quiet.
- Order?
You'll have to cut our tongues out to order us.
Fuck you, guys.
- You're the laughingstock of the world, Julius Hoffman.
You are the laughingstock of the world.
Every kid in the world hates you.
- To see this trial right, you gotta understand
that this trial was being seen by millions of people
as a one minute cartoon each night.
- May the record show the defendants Hoffman and Rubin
came in attire in what might be called collegiate robes.
- That's judges robes.
- Some might even consider them judicial robes.
Your idea, Mr. Kunstler?
Another one of your brilliant ideas?
- Your honor, I can't take the credit for this one.
- That amazes me.
- I sustain the objection.
- Well I object that sustain.
- Please sit down.
- I overrule that sustain.
- Well I sustain that overrule.
Off with the robe.
- Off with the robes?
- I proudly accept the nomination of our party.
Surely we have now learned a lesson.
Violence breeds counter violence
and it cannot be condoned whatever the source.
- The point is that they came here wanting a riot.
We have shown that these defendants,
all seven of them had a common purpose
of bringing disruption and inciting violence in this city
and that all seven participated working together
to further these plans.
Oh, they never explicitly said, you do that to blow up that.
That is not how they did it.
It was tacit understanding.
A working together in all these meetings that they had.
And that is how they conspired.
They came here to riot.
- They didn't look for the violence with the police.
They were a crowd that wanted to march.
They weren't permitted to march.
They stayed in the streets and chanted,
but does that mean that the police should wade into them
and beat them and club them?
Is that the way we've come to deal
with people in this country
who adamantly insist on the right to protest?
- We are living in extremely troubled times.
An intolerable war has divided and dismayed us.
Racism at home and poverty
caused despair and discouragement.
In a so-called affluent society,
we have people who can't even approximate the decent life.
These are rough problems, terrible problems,
but they don't go away by destroying their critics.
They don't vanish by sending men to jail.
You can crucify the Jesus.
You can poison the Socrates.
You can hang John Brown or Nathan Hale.
You can kill the trait of honor.
You can jail Eugene Debs or a Bobby Seale.
You can assassinate John Kennedy
or a Martin Luther King.
But the problems.
Remain.
- Remember at the beginning of this case,
they were calling them all by diminutive names,
Rennie and Abbie and Jerry,
trying to pretend that they were young kids.
They're not kids.
They're highly sophisticated educated men
and they are evil men.
Now there are millions of kids
who naturally resent authority.
They feel the horrors of racism
and the frustration of this terribly difficult war.
They're impatient for a change.
You want to fix things up.
And there's another thing about a kid.
If we all remember, that you have an attraction to evil.
Evil is exciting.
It's interesting.
These guys take advantage evilly to corrupt those kids
and use them for their purposes.
And you know what their purpose was?
To disrupt.
To have war in the streets.
Tear the city apart.
Fuck up the convention.
Laws to these people are viewed as suggestions
that they can obey or not obey just as they please.
Oh, they're sophisticated and they're smart
and they're just as evil as they can be.
Now can you imagine, you know, the way they named dropped?
Can you imagine?
And it's almost blasphemous to say it that they named Jesus.
They named Martin Luther King.
Can you imagine those men supporting these--
- Yes, I can.
I can imagine it because it's true.
- Remove these people, Mr. Marshall.
- That's my daughter.
- I don't wanna listen to anymore of these disgusting.
- Hey, don't you hit her like that.
I saw you.
That man hit her on the head for saying the truth.
- Mr. Marshall, have that man sit down.
- See how it works.
Don't hit her.
- He did hit her.
- He did hit her. - Oh bunk.
- I saw him hit her.
- Remove that woman.
Remove her and don't let her return, Mr. Marshall.
- Abbie Hoffman walked over to my youngest daughter,
put his arms around her and said,
your dad will be all right.
She's never forgotten that.
Neither have I.
- Contempt by definition is any act calculated to hinder
or disrupt the court and the administration of justice.
And to lessen the court's authority
knowingly and deliberately.
- The contempt occurred right after the jury retired.
- I don't think we all, you know, really fully understood.
- They were at the will and whim of the judge.
- I find these defendants in this case
and the lawyers have committed numerous acts,
which have convinced the total disregard
for the proper conduct of any trial.
I will first consider the conduct
of the defendant David Dellinger.
Mr. Dellinger, you care to say anything?
Only in respect to punishment I will hear you.
I don't want you to talk politics.
- Well, that's why I needed to stand up
because you tried to keep what you call politics,
which means the truth out of this courtroom.
- I will ask you to sit down.
- And therefore it's necessary.
- I won't let you go any further.
- You want us to be like good Germans
supporting the evils of our decade.
Then you want us to be like good Jews
and go politely and quietly into the concentration camps
while you and this court suppress freedom and truth.
Well, I am not prepared to do that.
Then you want us to stay in our place like black people.
- Mr. Marshall.
- Like poor people.
Like women are supposed to stay in their place.
- Sit down, Mr. Dellinger.
- Well a new generation of Americans
will not support tyranny.
That's a travesty of justice and I will reflect the spirit.
- Take him out.
- You're a tyrant, Hoffman.
- What are you doing to us, judge?
What are you doing?
- Heil Hitler.
Heil Hitler.
Heil.
You satisfied now?
Huh, you satisfied?
- You have just jailed one of the most beautiful
and one of the most courageous men in the United States.
- All right, now we will talk about you, Mr. Davis.
Care to be heard?
- You may not believe this,
but we came here to have a trial,
even though we regarded it as unconstitutional and unjust.
Judge, you represent all that is old,
ugly, bigoted, and repressive in this country.
And I will tell you that the spirit at the defense table
will devour you and your sickness in the next generation.
- See you in jail.
- Whole country's in jail.
- See you in jail, brother.
- We now come to the consideration
of the matter of Thomas Hayden.
Mr. Hayden.
- The problem that I think most people have
who wanna punish us is that
punishment does not seem to have effect.
Even as the Elder Dellinger is taken off,
a younger Dellinger fights back.
So your honor, before your eyes,
you're seeing the most vital ingredient
of the system collapsing
because the system does not hold together.
- Oh, don't be so pessimistic.
Our system isn't collapsing.
Fellows as smart as you could do
awfully well under our system.
I'm not trying to convert you, mind you.
- We don't wanna place in your regimen, Julie,
- I can state only one thing
that affected my feelings about punishment
and that is that I would like to have a child.
- Here's where the federal system can do you no good.
- The federal system can do you no good
in trying to prevent the birth of a new world.
- Right on.
- I will hear it from you and Mr. Hoffman
if you will be respectful.
- Respectful.
My six year old daughter sent me a note yesterday.
She said.
She said maybe the judge should change his glasses
because then he could really see
what the defendants are all about.
When the law is in tyranny, the only order is disrespect
and that's what we showed.
And that's what all honorable men of free will will show.
- I will hear Mr. Rubin.
- Judge Hoffman, your honor.
I came to this trial.
I wanted to be indicted.
To be indicted at this trial
is like winning the Academy Award of protest.
You have said to us respect or else
without any moral argument, and frankly sir,
I think that you have shown more disrespect towards us
than we could have ever been shown to you.
We're going to jail with smiles on our faces.
There are millions of kids who love us,
who identify with us, who are going to fight to free us.
And that, sir, that is the revolution.
- Mr. Weiner, if you'll confine your remarks
to punishment I will hear you.
- Sure.
Okay.
Throughout this trial, I've sat in a quiet rage
as I've seen over and over again,
the best men of our country belittled and attacked.
Now I understand that because you are what you are,
I can't personally condemn you.
- I admonish you, sir.
I am supposed to be especially tolerant
because I was a member of a faculty of the school
that you are or were a teacher.
- Yes, I even understand that there's a plaque
naming an auditorium after you.
- Oh, you're nice to tell the assembled spectators.
- I'm pleased to report to you
that the plaque has been ripped off the wall.
- The plaque?
- Apparently while the board of trustees
feels affection for you, the student body does not.
- Now we come to the consideration of John Froines.
- When history is written,
the men who sat at this table, our table here,
that's the heroes.
- This matter now involves the conduct
of Mr. William Kunstler.
You wish to be heard Mr. Kunstler?
- I've tried with all my heart faithfully
to represent my clients in the face
of what I consider repressive
and unjust conduct toward them.
If I have to pay with my liberty, for such repression,
then that is the price of my beliefs and sensibilities.
I can only hope that my fate does not deter other lawyers
in the difficult days that lie ahead,
who will be asked to defend clients
against a steadily increasing governmental encroachment
upon their most fundamental liberties.
- Mr. Weinglass.
- What the court has chosen to label as direct contempt,
I cite as nothing more than the argument of counsel
in the heat of battle.
And I think you do a disservice to the profession.
I face punishment, whatever punishment means,
but I welcome joining the defendants and Bill Kunstler
in what has been for me the warmest
and richest association of my life.
- Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
I am informed you have reached a verdict.
I direct the clerk to read the verdict.
- We, the jury, find the defendants Lee Wiener
and John Froines not guilty as charged.
We, the jury find the defendants David Dellinger,
Renard Davis, Thomas Hayden, Abbott Hoffman,
and Jerry Rubin not guilty of conspiring,
but guilty of intending to organize,
promote, and incite to riot.
- I now proceed with the imposition of sentence.
I will hear for your clients, Mr. Kunstler.
- The defendants will speak with themselves.
- All right.
Mr. Dellinger, you have a right to speak in your own behalf.
- First, I would like to say
that I feel that every judge should be required
to spend some time in prison before sentencing other people
in order that he might become aware
of the degrading anti-human conditions
that persist in our prisons.
I feel more compassion for you, sir, than I do hostility.
I believe that you're a man who's had too much power
over too many people for too many years.
What happens to us here, however unjustified,
is very slight compared to
what has already happened to the Vietnamese people,
to the black people in this country and to the criminals,
with whom we're now spending our days.
Finally, there's something ambivalent
in my attitude towards you
because I think one can see something spunky in you
that one has to admire however misguided
or intolerant I believe that you are.
- Mr. Davis, would you like to speak in your own behalf?
You have that right.
- When I come out of prison,
it's gonna be to move next door to Tom Foran.
I'm gonna be the boy next door to Tom Foran.
The boy next door that could have been a judge.
He could have been a prosecutor.
I'm gonna be the boy next door
that organizes his kids into the revolution.
- Mr. Hayden.
- If you didn't wanna make us martyrs, why'd you do it?
We can hardly be notorious characters
if they'd left us alone in the streets of Chicago,
but instead we became the masterminds of a conspiracy,
chosen by the government to serve as scapegoats.
You know that by doing this,
it speeds up the end for the people who do it to us.
We had no choice in Chicago.
We had no choice in this trial.
- Mr. Hoffman.
- Mr. Foran says that we're un-American.
I don't feel un-American.
I feel very American.
I know those guys up on the wall.
I know them better than you I feel.
I know Adams.
I know all the Adams.
They grew up 20 miles from my home in Massachusetts.
Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson called for a revolution every 10 years.
Thomas Jefferson had an agrarian reform program
that would make Mao Zedong look like a liberal.
George Washington.
George Washington grew pot.
Wait, he called it hemp.
But he was probably a pothead.
Abraham Lincoln.
Abraham Lincoln said in his inaugural address of 1861.
He said.
When the people should grow weary
of their constitutional right to amend the government,
they shall exert the revolutionary right to dismember
and overthrow that government.
Now come on, Julie.
If he had made that speech in Lincoln Park,
he'd be standing in this courtroom on trial right now
because that speech is intended to incite a riot.
I don't know what a riot is.
I thought a riot meant having fun.
You know, like means when you laugh.
That's a riot.
I'll see you in Florida, Julie.
- Mr. Rubin.
- You're sentencing us for being ourselves.
That's the crime.
Julius, you've radicalized more young people
than we ever could have.
This is the happiest day of my life.
- Mr. Clerk, the defendants will be committed
to the attorney general for imprisonment for five years.
Will be fined the sum of $5,000 in cost of prosecution.
- $5,000, judge?
Could you make that 350?
- Court finds that the defendants
are clearly dangerous persons to be at large.
Therefore the commitments will be without bail.
- Wait a minute.
A riot.
- Every one of those defendants was willing
to go to jail for 10 years, which was what we faced.
- I think my fear was that we'd never get out.
- Although we did know
that history only remembers the guilty.
It doesn't remember the not guilty.
- As a matter of fact,
the seventh circuit court of appeals reversed the case.
- He found that the, any of our actions were provoked
by the actions of the judge and the prosecutors.
- It put justice itself, really,
in the history of the United States of America on trial.
♪ So your brothers bound and gagged ♪
♪ And they've chained him to a chair ♪
♪ Won't you please come to Chicago ♪
- The significance of the trial is that it showed, I think,
for the first time how ingenious defendants
can use the courtroom to get their point across
and not to be afraid of authority.
- It's lonely out there.
It's lonely when you stand on the corner
and say the emperor's got no clothes.
There's a whole bunch of people
that wanna come along and say,
there's an easier way to do this.
- I got married.
I have two kids, three dogs.
Seat in the state legislature.
And I still miss the old days.
- The sense that you can be young your whole life
is happens to be a true statement
and I think along the way we lost touch
with some of those values and perhaps,
perhaps it's not too late to find the best of that time.
- I think one has to be an activist for justice
if when it believes in peace that you can't get rid of war
without getting rid of the causes of war.
- I would hope my children do their political work
even better than I did mine.
And I'm doing mine now.
- It was a very good time in which to live
because you really felt that you were living for something
that was very meaningful and very real.
And I still feel the same way.
- I would describe myself now as a entrepreneur,
as a business person,
as someone who's as confused politically
as I was certainly in the 60s.
- I'll be a barbecuing, muscle bound, PhD,
political scientist whose published several books,
still rapping to brothers and sisters
being energetic about myself as a good human being,
trying to live as long as WB Dubois did.
- The notion that dedication to principle
is the basis upon which a life should be built
and that these eight people
for a particular period of time did that
and fought hard, took risks,
and were ultimately vindicated as being right.
♪ Freedom ♪
♪ It's time ♪
♪ Let them that it's all right ♪
♪ It's time ♪
♪ Who's the regulator who needs them ♪
♪ Ooh ooh ♪
♪ Open up the door ♪
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