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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,420 At 42 million... The art world, where paintings change hands for fortune. 2 00:00:06,020 --> 00:00:07,340 Thank you very much. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,600 But for every known masterpiece, there may be another still waiting to be 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,200 discovered. That is massively encouraging. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,320 International art dealer Philip Mould and I have teamed up to hunt for lost 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,560 by great artists. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,040 We use old -fashioned detective work and state -of -the -art science to get to 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,040 the truth. 9 00:00:27,050 --> 00:00:30,110 Science can enable us to see beyond the human eye. 10 00:00:30,450 --> 00:00:36,470 I can't believe it. Every case is packed with surprise and intrigue. It's like a 11 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:41,110 challenge. Who am I? But not every painting is quite what it seems. 12 00:00:41,490 --> 00:00:43,230 Someone has put a signature on top. 13 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:46,850 Yes. Dastardly. It's a journey that can end in joy. 14 00:00:47,070 --> 00:00:48,970 You have an original thing. 15 00:00:49,250 --> 00:00:51,910 Congratulations. Or bitter disappointment. 16 00:00:52,450 --> 00:00:54,510 Depressing end to the day. Sorry. 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,300 In this episode, could this picture, picked up for a song from a sale room in 18 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:06,060 England, be by one of Canada's most treasured impressionists, Helen 19 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:12,820 Her paintings were some of the best pure impressionist paintings by a Canadian. 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Does that exist? 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Overlooked for years, McNichol's work now sells for six -figure sums. 22 00:01:19,940 --> 00:01:21,000 $250 ,000. 23 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:27,860 Our investigation takes us to the artist's birthplace of Canada, but proof 24 00:01:27,860 --> 00:01:28,860 hard to come by. 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,380 There is no women of the fields listed here. 26 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:33,700 Well, that's depressing. 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,500 Our search for evidence takes us to some unlikely places. 28 00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:42,200 Oh, yes. That is what they look like, isn't it? With an owner needing a life 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,520 -changing windfall. I'm hoping that it might make enough to get a bungalow or 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,600 something. And a wealthy collector waiting in the wings. 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Oh. 32 00:01:51,260 --> 00:01:52,260 Wow. 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Can we find the evidence we need? 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,220 I've got the verdict here. 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,160 I'm so nervous, honestly. 36 00:02:10,020 --> 00:02:14,440 This week's case takes us to the medieval city of Lincoln in the East 37 00:02:16,460 --> 00:02:20,540 We've been contacted by a viewer who wants our help investigating a picture 38 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:22,520 bought on a whim from a local auction. 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,480 We're meeting artist and small -time art dealer David Taylor. 40 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:34,160 Hello. Hi there. Come in, please. Thank you. 41 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:41,000 David hopes he's found a painting by one of Canada's most celebrated female 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,000 artists. 43 00:02:48,050 --> 00:02:54,470 So, looking at a breezy outdoor scene, some figures in a field. 44 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:56,610 It looks as though they're harvesting. 45 00:02:57,630 --> 00:02:59,130 Strong, bright colours. 46 00:02:59,530 --> 00:03:00,910 Very impressionistic. 47 00:03:01,970 --> 00:03:03,810 I have to say, I love the picture. 48 00:03:04,050 --> 00:03:08,730 Full of light, full of movement. That's a child, I think, picking something with 49 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:09,730 a basket. 50 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:10,750 It's beautiful. 51 00:03:12,050 --> 00:03:17,170 And in the bottom left -hand corner, what looks like a signature. 52 00:03:17,850 --> 00:03:18,990 Yes, I think it is signature. 53 00:03:19,690 --> 00:03:21,070 Helen McNicol, I believe. 54 00:03:22,990 --> 00:03:24,030 Helen McNicol. 55 00:03:24,570 --> 00:03:28,250 I have to say, that's not a name I've ever heard of. I think Helen McNicol is 56 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:34,030 name worth hanging on to. Early 20th century, a leading Canadian 57 00:03:34,090 --> 00:03:36,310 now much collected and greatly regarded. 58 00:03:39,090 --> 00:03:43,650 Helen Galloway McNicol was born in Toronto in 1879. 59 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:50,220 A deaf artist who embraced a life full of travel and adventure, she became one 60 00:03:50,220 --> 00:03:52,900 of Canada's most important Impressionists. 61 00:03:53,580 --> 00:03:57,920 Basing herself in London, she painted in England and France. 62 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,820 Light was her primary subject. She was adept at painting sun -drenched 63 00:04:03,820 --> 00:04:07,900 landscapes, typically with women working and children playing. 64 00:04:10,830 --> 00:04:16,810 But in 1915, just as her career was taking off, McNicol died suddenly 65 00:04:16,810 --> 00:04:18,290 complications from diabetes. 66 00:04:18,670 --> 00:04:21,209 She was just 35 years old. 67 00:04:22,230 --> 00:04:25,870 Recently, there has been a resurgence of interest in her work. 68 00:04:26,090 --> 00:04:31,650 Last year, the chintz sofa sold for a record -breaking sum, more than half a 69 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:32,650 million pounds. 70 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:39,950 Could David have struck gold and found a valuable masterpiece by one of Canada's 71 00:04:39,950 --> 00:04:41,130 most treasured artists? 72 00:04:42,570 --> 00:04:44,690 So where did you get this picture from then, David? 73 00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:46,270 I bought it at auction. 74 00:04:46,490 --> 00:04:49,030 I was just viewing, wandering round. 75 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:55,590 This was in a corner in a plastic 1960s frame, just bowled over by it really, 76 00:04:55,710 --> 00:04:58,250 painted by someone who really knows what they're doing. 77 00:04:59,290 --> 00:05:00,610 How much did you pay for it? 78 00:05:01,070 --> 00:05:04,330 The most I've ever paid for a painting at auction, £2 ,090. 79 00:05:05,030 --> 00:05:08,190 Had you ever heard of Helen McNichol? No, I've never heard of her before. 80 00:05:08,670 --> 00:05:11,590 Were you worried about spending that much money? Very worried. I mean, the 81 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:12,970 thing was I had to tell my partner. 82 00:05:13,810 --> 00:05:17,230 But this gave you one of those dangerous rushes of blood to the head. 83 00:05:17,670 --> 00:05:20,150 Absolutely, when the hair's on the back of your neck, stand up. 84 00:05:20,810 --> 00:05:26,630 So how did the auction house catalogue it? It was catalogued in the style of 85 00:05:26,630 --> 00:05:28,270 Helen Galloway McNichol. 86 00:05:29,140 --> 00:05:34,100 but I could see that somebody had reduced the size of the painting, which 87 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:37,400 an inch of the pigment tucked into the frame. 88 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:43,340 So when I looked with my little torch under the stretcher at the bottom, I 89 00:05:43,340 --> 00:05:44,340 see something there. 90 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:49,660 David's excellent detective work soon paid off. 91 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,860 Once home, he removed the frame and discovered that the picture was in fact 92 00:05:54,860 --> 00:05:58,680 larger, folded over the support along each edge. 93 00:05:59,820 --> 00:06:04,360 Now restretched to its full size, the signature is revealed. 94 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:09,900 But that wasn't the only curious thing about the picture when David bought it. 95 00:06:10,220 --> 00:06:15,480 There's a small plastic plaque on the front of the frame which said, Women of 96 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,740 the Fields, Helen Nichol, spelt wrongly with one L. 97 00:06:20,590 --> 00:06:21,730 And the date, 1958. 98 00:06:22,610 --> 00:06:27,810 1958? That's an odd date, because Helen McNicol died, I think, in 1915. 99 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:35,290 The wrong date and the wrong spelling on the plaque is not helpful. 100 00:06:36,030 --> 00:06:40,450 To be a genuine McNicol, we're going to need more solid evidence. 101 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Were there any other clues about provenance with the picture? There was a 102 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,100 provenance in the catalogue. 103 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,800 The Pine Coffin Family of Canada and then by descent. 104 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:54,900 That's got to be a reasonably easy name to search, I would think. There can't be 105 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:57,400 too many Pine Coffin Families in Canada. No, it's a strange name, isn't it? 106 00:06:57,780 --> 00:07:03,400 And in terms of value, then, so you paid just over £2 ,000 for it. 107 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,140 If it is by Helen McNichol, what would it be worth, Philip? 108 00:07:09,130 --> 00:07:14,330 Well, her star is rising so fast at the moment, it could be worth £300 ,000. 109 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:15,750 Oh, God. 110 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:19,550 Can I sit down now? 111 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:25,630 Well, if this is fake or fortune, I have to ask, if it's not by Helen McNichol, 112 00:07:25,730 --> 00:07:29,370 what would it be worth then, Philip? It would be worth what you paid for it. 113 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:30,890 Yes, I thought so. A couple of grand. 114 00:07:31,630 --> 00:07:34,930 So if we do manage to prove it's by Helen McNichol, what would you do with 115 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:38,510 I'd like to sell it, because I want the money. 116 00:07:39,740 --> 00:07:44,640 No, really, we're on two levels here. My problem is my sense of balance is 117 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,600 terrible. I fell down the stairs the other day. You're more somewhere on one 118 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,600 level, really. 119 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:54,380 I'm hoping that it might make enough to get a bungalow or something. 120 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,380 So this would be a life -changing... It is, it would be, yes, if it was. 121 00:08:00,020 --> 00:08:01,500 But I'm prepared for it. 122 00:08:01,820 --> 00:08:02,860 Not to be, as well. 123 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,540 I think that's a very healthy approach, don't you, to this whole process we're 124 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:07,540 about to embark on. 125 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,340 And hopefully we will be able to prove it by Helen McNichol and you will be 126 00:08:12,340 --> 00:08:15,960 to change your lives and buy a house that's more comfortable for you to live 127 00:08:16,260 --> 00:08:17,260 That would be great. 128 00:08:21,660 --> 00:08:26,740 Before our investigation gets underway, I want to get under the skin of David's 129 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:27,740 picture. 130 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:31,350 Does it have the quality of a McNicol painting? 131 00:08:32,390 --> 00:08:38,789 At first glance, this looked like a really thought -out picture of a central 132 00:08:38,789 --> 00:08:44,090 figure harvesting with two other figures similarly working. 133 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:48,110 Now, that is exactly the type of subject matter that she went in for. 134 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:54,210 The really strong mood music, though, is Impressionism. 135 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,480 I mean, look particularly at the crop. You've got these deliciously thick 136 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,840 impasto brushstrokes, and that's a hallmark. 137 00:09:05,460 --> 00:09:09,100 And the other thing is the absence of shadows. 138 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,960 Depressionists didn't like the darkness, and the darkest colour that we've got 139 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,140 in this composition is the blue, just to the right of the main figure. 140 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,080 But there are things that worry me. 141 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:30,380 Could this be exactly the type of painting that a forger would feel it was 142 00:09:30,380 --> 00:09:31,400 doing? Why? 143 00:09:31,660 --> 00:09:38,600 My experience of fakers is that very often they will choose an artist who's 144 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,960 making big money, but not one who's necessarily that well -known, so that it 145 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,560 can't be easily dismissed. 146 00:09:46,220 --> 00:09:49,100 McNicol exactly falls into that category. 147 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:56,250 You know, to go from... A painting bought publicly for £2 ,000 to an 148 00:09:56,250 --> 00:10:02,350 impressionist treasure worth potentially £300 ,000 is the stuff of dreams. 149 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,890 In order to get there, there's a lot to prove. 150 00:10:08,950 --> 00:10:10,450 Come on in here, Fiona. 151 00:10:11,270 --> 00:10:13,650 David is no novice when it comes to art. 152 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:20,230 Not only does he love to collect, but he's also an artist and knows what to 153 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:21,430 for when buying a painting. 154 00:10:22,830 --> 00:10:26,410 So I want to know what research he's done so far on this picture. 155 00:10:27,830 --> 00:10:30,790 Have you contacted anyone about it, done any research into it? 156 00:10:31,070 --> 00:10:34,230 Well, I did contact Heffles in Canada. 157 00:10:34,570 --> 00:10:39,270 They're an auction house who sold, about ten years ago, a painting called 158 00:10:39,270 --> 00:10:42,330 Watching the Boats, fully catalogued as Helen McNichol. 159 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:45,070 They came back to me and I got this email. 160 00:10:45,390 --> 00:10:46,730 I can let you read that. 161 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:49,170 So, hi David, thanks for the photo. 162 00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:53,870 I had a chance to quickly check our references on McNicol and could not 163 00:10:53,870 --> 00:10:55,410 this title or picture. 164 00:10:56,070 --> 00:11:01,070 After conferring with David and Robert Heffel, we'll have to pass at this time. 165 00:11:01,110 --> 00:11:04,610 I'm sorry we can't provide further assistance, but good luck with your 166 00:11:05,450 --> 00:11:07,590 So you hit a dead end with that. That was awful. 167 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:10,070 That was awful. I mean, can you imagine? 168 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:17,970 If we do prove it's by Helen McNicol, what would it mean to you to identify 169 00:11:17,970 --> 00:11:18,799 That would be wonderful. 170 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,020 I just love her now. 171 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:22,040 I've seen so much of her work. 172 00:11:22,260 --> 00:11:25,620 For that to be accepted would be just wonderful. 173 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:33,640 Back at the gallery in London, we're going over the evidence. 174 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,820 It really is a very striking image, this. 175 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,040 It's gorgeous. 176 00:11:40,260 --> 00:11:43,860 And we know that David bought it at auction and the sales listing is still 177 00:11:43,860 --> 00:11:46,120 online. So in the listing... 178 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,300 It said, from the Pine Coffin family, originated in Canada and thenced by 179 00:11:50,300 --> 00:11:52,180 descent. So it's gone down through the family. 180 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:57,560 Yeah, so if the picture is by McNichol, a Canadian link would make sense. 181 00:11:58,140 --> 00:12:00,780 There is a Pine Coffin family in England, though. 182 00:12:01,420 --> 00:12:07,320 This was their ancestral home for 900 years, this fabulous 26 -bedroom mansion 183 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,320 in Devon. 184 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,300 Well, I mean, that's a potential lead, isn't it? I wonder if one of the family 185 00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:13,360 can remember it. 186 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,020 What about the back of the picture? 187 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,660 So this is the back of the picture as it looked like when David bought it. 188 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,880 It's clear that a previous owner has removed the canvas from its original 189 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,000 support, called a stretcher, and replaced it with a smaller one. 190 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:34,820 So anything on the original frame, when this painting was done, has been lost as 191 00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:38,180 far as we know, and then we're left with this business of making it smaller. 192 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,080 Yeah, so a turnover, as we call it. 193 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:45,420 The picture has made smaller in so doing. 194 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,880 hiding a bit of the signature. 195 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:50,200 Maybe they're trying to conceal it deliberately. Maybe they had a sinister 196 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,140 reason. I don't think so. 197 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:56,040 It's possible that they were just trying to make the picture fit into a smaller 198 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,240 space. I've even known people make pictures smaller just to fit into a 199 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:04,620 I think it could have been just a cheap, quick -fix solution by someone who 200 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:07,140 didn't know what they were potentially dealing with. 201 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:12,160 So in terms of leads, then, we've got the type of women of the field and then 202 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,500 this name to investigate, Pine Coffin. 203 00:13:14,890 --> 00:13:20,250 A technical analysis might well help us, but I also think one of us needs to go 204 00:13:20,250 --> 00:13:21,009 to Canada. 205 00:13:21,010 --> 00:13:22,310 OK, who gets to go? 206 00:13:24,170 --> 00:13:26,330 Rock, paper, scissors. 207 00:13:27,050 --> 00:13:28,050 Damn. 208 00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:32,890 Tough luck, Fiona. 209 00:13:33,530 --> 00:13:39,390 I've come to Canada on the trail of Helen McNichol, a truly international 210 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:43,570 artist. She based herself in London, but it was in Canada. 211 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,300 where she was most highly regarded. 212 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:50,600 She frequently came home to exhibit her work and played an important role in 213 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,340 popularising Impressionism in North America. 214 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:00,080 Now more celebrated than ever, McNicol's paintings can be found in almost every 215 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,760 leading gallery in Canada. 216 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:08,120 A major McNicol exhibition is about to take place here in Quebec at the Musée 217 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,700 National des Beaux -Arts. 218 00:14:10,510 --> 00:14:16,870 The Pierre Lassonde Pavilion is home to modern Canadian art, and its namesake is 219 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:18,890 one of McNichol's biggest collectors. 220 00:14:19,490 --> 00:14:24,690 A Canadian businessman who made his fortune in gold, Pierre has given me 221 00:14:24,690 --> 00:14:27,490 permission to see a few of his prized paintings. 222 00:14:29,170 --> 00:14:33,550 How does David's picture compare to these genuine treasures? 223 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:37,810 Just look at that. 224 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:42,140 This windowless room has suddenly become full of summer. 225 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,400 This one in the middle, I think it's called Sunny September, is a 226 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,260 useful one to look at. 227 00:14:53,620 --> 00:14:58,880 The first and most recognisable comparison, in a way, to David's picture 228 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,940 brushstrokes of the background. 229 00:15:00,970 --> 00:15:06,010 These dynamic, conspicuous, colliding brushstrokes are reminiscent of 230 00:15:06,010 --> 00:15:10,490 Impressionist masters like Monet and Renoir, as well as Van Gogh. 231 00:15:13,510 --> 00:15:18,270 And it's something I recognise in the background of David's picture. 232 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:25,070 This is, at first glance, an Impressionist painting, but it's not 233 00:15:25,070 --> 00:15:29,570 these figures. There's a solidity about them. They're quite statuesque. 234 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,240 The combination of the two, the solid form of the figures and the clatter of 235 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,520 strokes in the background, can also be found in David's painting. 236 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,800 Another direct comparison to David's picture is the way that these whites are 237 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,740 done. It's as if the white effervesces. It shines brighter than is possible. 238 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,540 And you can particularly see it here, this delightful figure of a child. 239 00:15:57,750 --> 00:16:03,070 Notice how the thick, creamy whites have been mixed with a glaze of yellow to 240 00:16:03,070 --> 00:16:05,050 make the whites stand out even more. 241 00:16:09,510 --> 00:16:15,410 That same technique is visible in the white clothing of the main figure in 242 00:16:15,410 --> 00:16:16,410 David's picture. 243 00:16:17,490 --> 00:16:22,230 It really does seem to me that David's picture comes from the same type of 244 00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:23,149 thought process. 245 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:26,170 It's being worked by the same type of brush. 246 00:16:31,950 --> 00:16:37,490 While the stylistic comparison looks positive, I've hit a roadblock with the 247 00:16:37,490 --> 00:16:38,490 provenance. 248 00:16:39,690 --> 00:16:43,850 The auction house who sold a picture to David tells us they're unable to shed 249 00:16:43,850 --> 00:16:46,530 any more light on that pine coffin name. 250 00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:52,430 And usually at this stage, we would consult the catalogue, the official list 251 00:16:52,430 --> 00:16:55,910 an artist's works, to see if there is a record of David's picture. 252 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:58,110 But there isn't one for McNicol. 253 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,580 So we'll need to find clues in McNichol's life story if we're going to 254 00:17:03,580 --> 00:17:06,099 chance of connecting her to David's picture. 255 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,880 Thankfully, expert help is on hand. 256 00:17:12,339 --> 00:17:15,940 Professor Samantha Burton from the University of Southern California is a 257 00:17:15,940 --> 00:17:18,579 leading authority and the artist's biographer. 258 00:17:20,060 --> 00:17:22,500 Ah, Sam, very nice to see you. 259 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,800 Nice to see you too. 260 00:17:24,579 --> 00:17:28,760 Sam has agreed to review our evidence and offer an opinion on David's picture. 261 00:17:29,150 --> 00:17:30,290 But where do we start? 262 00:17:31,770 --> 00:17:36,550 So Helen McNichol, it sounds like she was a fascinating woman. What can you 263 00:17:36,550 --> 00:17:37,309 me about her? 264 00:17:37,310 --> 00:17:41,690 She was. So Helen McNichol was from one of the wealthiest, most prominent 265 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:42,690 families in Montreal. 266 00:17:43,450 --> 00:17:48,070 She was educated at the Art Association of Montreal, which was one of the most 267 00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:50,330 prestigious institutions in Canada. 268 00:17:51,660 --> 00:17:56,360 In 1902, McNichol left Canada for England, where she studied at one of the 269 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:59,740 progressive schools renowned for its equal treatment of women. 270 00:18:01,420 --> 00:18:07,260 She continued her art education at the Slade in London. She travelled a lot, 271 00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:14,080 both back and forth between London and Canada, and also from London to 272 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,080 in Europe. 273 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,840 McNichol's travels put her in direct contact with Impressionism, which more 274 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,240 30 years after it had exploded on the art scene in Paris, continued to be 275 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,240 popular in Europe. 276 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:32,100 It was a movement McNichol played an important part in spreading to Canada, 277 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:34,700 where Impressionism was still relatively unknown. 278 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,940 It was around this time McNichol met the British artist Dorothea Sharp, who 279 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:43,780 became a lifelong friend and companion. 280 00:18:44,910 --> 00:18:50,490 They met in about 1905, 1906. We know they lived together in London, traveled 281 00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:52,310 together, and they painted together. 282 00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:59,230 They often painted in the same models, in the same scenes, and they had very, 283 00:18:59,410 --> 00:19:00,410 very similar styles. 284 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:07,810 Not everything was easy for her. However, one of the most interesting 285 00:19:07,810 --> 00:19:09,690 about her is that she was deaf. 286 00:19:10,380 --> 00:19:14,260 She became hard of hearing after about a scarlet fever when she was just a 287 00:19:14,260 --> 00:19:19,580 child. And so this must have presented challenges to her as well. And the fact 288 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:23,760 that she was deaf, does that show in some way the characteristic of her work? 289 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:29,480 I think it does. I think first and foremost, Impressionism is such a 290 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,740 rich style. 291 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,960 It's a style that really targets the senses, right? 292 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,760 There's often a sense of distance. 293 00:19:38,270 --> 00:19:39,169 in her work. 294 00:19:39,170 --> 00:19:41,610 The figures don't look out at the viewer. 295 00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:45,430 They seem to be really absorbed in their own world. 296 00:19:47,450 --> 00:19:52,550 Painted in an impressionistic style and depicting figures set apart, David's 297 00:19:52,550 --> 00:19:54,190 picture fits with McNichol. 298 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:59,250 But without Provnos, where do we need to look for evidence? 299 00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:03,700 Sam, you're going to be the person at the end of this whole process that 300 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:06,780 whether or not David's picture is or is not by Helen McNichol. 301 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:12,040 What do you need to help convince you that David has bought a Helen McNichol? 302 00:20:12,540 --> 00:20:17,640 I would want to see some kind of evidence in the exhibition records, you 303 00:20:17,660 --> 00:20:22,560 some kind of connection to a painting that we know she painted and exhibited 304 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,560 the time. 305 00:20:23,949 --> 00:20:25,770 provenance would also be really important. 306 00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:27,430 What is the history of the painting? 307 00:20:27,630 --> 00:20:28,710 Where did it come from? 308 00:20:29,130 --> 00:20:33,490 If there was any technical evidence that could support it, that would be useful. 309 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:36,350 Well, Sam, I hope we can find some of that. 310 00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:38,530 Thank you for taking the time to talk to me. 311 00:20:38,850 --> 00:20:39,850 You're very welcome. 312 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:42,850 Well, that was a very useful conversation. 313 00:20:43,230 --> 00:20:48,110 Sam has given us some clear leads to follow in our investigation, so the 314 00:20:48,110 --> 00:20:49,450 provenance technical analysis. 315 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,140 but also we need to check out her exhibition history. 316 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:57,900 David bought the picture in England, but for what Sam's saying, we need to look 317 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:01,320 at exhibitions not just in England, but in Canada as well. 318 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Could there be evidence the picture went to Canada? 319 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Was it one of the dozens of paintings shipped back to the McNichol family from 320 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,160 her London studio after she died? 321 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,060 Or did McNicol bring the picture back on one of her many trips home? 322 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:28,140 After several days sailing, McNicol would have made port here in Quebec 323 00:21:28,660 --> 00:21:34,080 The city's skyline is dominated by the Grand Chateau Fontenac Hotel. 324 00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:41,260 Built in 1893 to emulate a French castle, I can imagine McNicol staying 325 00:21:41,260 --> 00:21:44,920 here, especially as her father was vice -president. 326 00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:47,060 of the railway company that built it. 327 00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:52,420 I'm heading to the bar to find out more from art historian and McNichol scholar 328 00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:53,480 Julie Nash. 329 00:21:54,340 --> 00:21:59,740 Could Julie help establish whether David's picture ever came back to 330 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:02,760 When we are looking at a painting that's... 331 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,260 recently become known. We often turn to this memorial exhibition that was hosted 332 00:22:07,260 --> 00:22:10,880 in 1925, so just about 10 years after she passed away. 333 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,000 It was approximately 140 paintings, mostly from her estate. 334 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,780 They were owned by her family and some prominent pieces from Montreal 335 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:21,320 or public collections at the time. 336 00:22:22,540 --> 00:22:28,260 In the catalogue, there are pictures I recognise, not least Sunny September, 337 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:34,080 which I saw in the museum. Is there any mention of... Women of the Fields in 338 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,080 this exhibition. 339 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:38,440 Unfortunately, there is no Women of the Fields listed here. 340 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,080 Well, that's depressing. 341 00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:41,940 I mean, what are the other possibilities? 342 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,120 There are exhibitions that we know she was a participant in. 343 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,080 As an artist who had independent financial means, she was frequently 344 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,800 paintings back across the Atlantic to be exhibited in Canada. 345 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,400 They were annual exhibitions where the artists would send their most recent, 346 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:00,240 their most prominent work that they were proud of. 347 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,790 So, we have a few more exhibitions to check out for a mention of women of the 348 00:23:06,790 --> 00:23:12,550 field. That reminds me of another concern I have about David's picture, 349 00:23:12,550 --> 00:23:13,550 title itself. 350 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:17,850 Could women of the fields be a red herring? 351 00:23:18,670 --> 00:23:23,830 When this came up for sale, the artist's name was misspelt, her death date was 352 00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:27,310 wrong. Why shouldn't the title be wrong as well? Yes, absolutely. 353 00:23:27,870 --> 00:23:31,230 So does this sound to you like a McNichol title? 354 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:36,460 Entirely. Typically with McNichol, we see two types of titles. One that speaks 355 00:23:36,460 --> 00:23:40,860 to her Impressionist style of painting. So we might see something like sunlight 356 00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:42,520 on the field, sunshine on the field. 357 00:23:42,980 --> 00:23:47,040 And then the other type of title tends to be purely descriptive, sort of in the 358 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,120 vein of women of the field. So we might see something like a woman gathering 359 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,680 fruit or picking apples or something. 360 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,440 Okay. 361 00:23:55,850 --> 00:23:58,490 We've got to think Helen McNichol, and we need a plan. 362 00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:59,710 What's your suggestion? 363 00:23:59,950 --> 00:24:04,310 I would suggest that we look through the exhibitions and related reviews in 364 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:08,450 newspapers from the period McNichol was exhibiting in Canada to see if there's 365 00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:11,610 anything in there that calls to mind this image. 366 00:24:12,030 --> 00:24:18,150 So turning over a lot more stones, it's possible there may be a title that might 367 00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:19,610 attach itself to this painting. 368 00:24:19,910 --> 00:24:20,910 Hopefully so. 369 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,580 Back in England, I'm looking for clues to help us find a new title. 370 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,760 If Women of the Fields is wrong, could the right title be in the subject of the 371 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:34,760 painting? 372 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:39,620 It's a rural scene showing women working the land, but what exactly are they 373 00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:40,620 doing? 374 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,400 To try and find out, I've come to one of the world's great gardens, the Royal 375 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,880 Horticultural Society's garden at Wisley. 376 00:24:52,330 --> 00:24:57,330 Guy Barter is the RHS's chief horticultural advisor and a sage when it 377 00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:59,110 answering tough questions about gardening. 378 00:25:04,290 --> 00:25:07,850 Can Guy help identify what the women are doing in David's picture? 379 00:25:09,890 --> 00:25:11,590 Guy, hello, very nice to see you. 380 00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:15,350 I wanted to show you this painting that we're investigating, possibly by an 381 00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:16,690 artist called Helen McNichol. 382 00:25:17,230 --> 00:25:18,950 I just wondered what you think... 383 00:25:19,499 --> 00:25:22,500 these girls, these young women are doing. They're obviously picking 384 00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:23,640 but we couldn't quite work it out. 385 00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:29,140 Yeah, it looks to me like it's what we call French beans, which are officially 386 00:25:29,140 --> 00:25:34,140 known as Phaseolus vulgaris, and they appear to be lying on the ground, so it 387 00:25:34,140 --> 00:25:35,360 would be dwarf French beans. 388 00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:39,540 There's all sorts of colours. You can get purple, speckled, as well as the 389 00:25:39,540 --> 00:25:41,080 ones. But I've not seen yellow before. 390 00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:45,980 It's not that uncommon. We found a packet of seed in the garden centre. 391 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,839 Oh, yes. 392 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,320 That is what they look like, isn't it? 393 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:52,850 Where would you expect to find beans like this grown? 394 00:25:53,370 --> 00:25:57,550 These are the French beans, like a bit warmer climate than Britain. So I'm 395 00:25:57,550 --> 00:26:00,190 thinking northern France, Belgium, something like that. 396 00:26:00,430 --> 00:26:02,910 Well, that's interesting, because we know that Helmut Nickel did paint in 397 00:26:02,910 --> 00:26:04,980 France. And what about the women in the background? 398 00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:08,640 Well, that's a real puzzle. They appear to have something laying on the ground, 399 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:12,600 and the woman in the far distance seems to be raking the stuff up, and the lady 400 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,900 in the foreground appears to be pulling something. 401 00:26:16,220 --> 00:26:19,340 And I'm just wondering if it wasn't flax. 402 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:25,940 Flax was and is quite widely grown in northern France and Belgium for the 403 00:26:25,940 --> 00:26:26,980 textile industry. 404 00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:28,500 So you think this... 405 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:31,440 This brown stalker here, this is her pulling something out. 406 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:33,940 Well, it's a fort, if it is flax. 407 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:38,660 This painting is called Women of the Fields. We've no idea, to be honest, if 408 00:26:38,660 --> 00:26:39,780 it's the right title or not. 409 00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:44,960 Go on, Guy, take a stab. If you were going to title this painting, what would 410 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,140 you call it? Oh, I think I'd call it something prosaic, like Gathering Beans 411 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:51,900 Flax, or The Flax Rakers and Bean Gatherer, something like that. 412 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:55,100 Or you could just call it Midsummer Harvest, if you want to be poetical. 413 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,400 Well, it's as good a guess as anyone. 414 00:26:57,850 --> 00:26:59,310 Guy, thank you so much. My pleasure. 415 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:07,690 As the search for a title continues, I've left Quebec and travelled several 416 00:27:07,690 --> 00:27:09,850 hundred miles west to Toronto. 417 00:27:11,670 --> 00:27:16,130 Not long after David bought the picture, he contacted Heffel Fine Art Auction 418 00:27:16,130 --> 00:27:19,070 House to enquire about consigning it for sale. 419 00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:25,370 A leading Canadian auctioneer, they've seen and sold a lot of McNichol's work. 420 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,460 I'm meeting National Director of Sales, Daniel Gillette. 421 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,460 Hello. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. At the time, the auction house 422 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:38,840 on David's request to sell this picture, and I'm keen to find out why. 423 00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:44,840 So, Daniel, as the leading auctioneer for selling nickel, what do you look for 424 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,680 when you're trying to authenticate one? 425 00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:51,280 Well, in every case, we look for typical styles. 426 00:27:51,620 --> 00:27:53,000 We look for typical materials. 427 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,580 We look for provenance and we look for exhibition history. 428 00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:59,260 And in the case of David's picture? 429 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,920 First of all, the title, Women of the Field, did not correspond to any known 430 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,260 works in our research to Helen McNichol. 431 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,300 And the image of the back had no information as to provenance or 432 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,720 The original stretcher is missing, and that is where... 433 00:28:22,190 --> 00:28:25,690 In many cases, the information that we would be looking for on the back would 434 00:28:25,690 --> 00:28:32,270 exist. So if one could find that information, would you be prepared to 435 00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:37,330 reconsider? We would be very, very happy to review any information available 436 00:28:37,330 --> 00:28:38,330 that's discovered. 437 00:28:39,470 --> 00:28:45,050 With prices for McNichol's work at an all -time high, it's more important than 438 00:28:45,050 --> 00:28:47,250 ever to find this missing evidence. 439 00:28:48,270 --> 00:28:52,970 So I'm getting the impression that it's a good time to discover and sell a 440 00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:53,970 McNichol. 441 00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:57,310 McNichol's paintings are very rare to the market. 442 00:28:57,650 --> 00:29:04,430 There are fewer than 300 known paintings, including watercolors. 443 00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:07,950 died so young. Because she died so young. The Canadian art market is 444 00:29:08,150 --> 00:29:09,630 Yes, I would say the moment is good. 445 00:29:14,250 --> 00:29:18,790 I totally understand where Daniel and Heffels are coming from. I mean, we knew 446 00:29:18,790 --> 00:29:19,790 this from the outset. 447 00:29:20,150 --> 00:29:25,870 This looks like a McNicol, but it's got no backstory. It's got no provenance, no 448 00:29:25,870 --> 00:29:26,870 exhibition history. 449 00:29:27,730 --> 00:29:31,590 We've got to find that. We've got to complete this picture. 450 00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:39,250 While Julie Nash trawls exhibition history for a title that fits, and with 451 00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:41,230 new leads on the Pine Coffin provenance... 452 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,020 I'm going back over McNichol's early career. 453 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,280 During her time at the Slade School of Fine Art, McNichol would have learnt a 454 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,100 number of drawing and painting techniques. 455 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Could understanding these better support the case for McNichol painting David's 456 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,840 picture? 457 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,920 I'm going to art school to find out. 458 00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:05,120 We'll do about another ten minutes without the dressing gown. 459 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,600 Same drawing, same pose. 460 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000 I've come to Heatherley School of Fine Art in Chelsea. 461 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,500 A life class like this is something McNichol would have done regularly, 462 00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:24,300 female and male subjects, a scene in her early sketches. 463 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,000 Tony Mott is the school's director of studies. 464 00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:32,420 Well, Tony, thank you for allowing us into your life drawing class. 465 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:37,000 We know that Helen McNichol trained in life drawing. Just watching your 466 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,380 here, would it have been more or less the same for her? 467 00:30:39,850 --> 00:30:44,230 I think largely yes, but perhaps one difference is it looks as though the 468 00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:45,390 model was minimally covered. 469 00:30:45,890 --> 00:30:49,170 He had modesty pants, doesn't he? 470 00:30:51,390 --> 00:30:56,510 Can Tony help find any clues that could link David's picture to McNichol's? 471 00:30:57,450 --> 00:30:59,390 This is the picture that we are looking at. 472 00:31:00,430 --> 00:31:02,970 Do you look at this and think this is the work of someone who's academically 473 00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:07,010 trained? Oh, definitely, because I can see they're aware of the way that colour 474 00:31:07,010 --> 00:31:09,930 changes in the distance, so that's something that they probably would have 475 00:31:09,930 --> 00:31:12,430 taught. As it goes from the green to the blue? 476 00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:16,650 Yes, and also they're aware of the way that the marks with their paintbrush 477 00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:21,430 creates a sense of depth, so there are larger marks in the foreground and 478 00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:23,090 smaller marks in the background. 479 00:31:23,710 --> 00:31:27,230 And the other thing that comes across very well is how they can capture an 480 00:31:27,230 --> 00:31:29,370 object like the basket with very few marks. 481 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:30,900 So they have great facility. 482 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,980 How do you think a picture like this would have been painted? Do you think 483 00:31:35,980 --> 00:31:38,320 a studio work or outdoors on plein air? 484 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,400 I don't think that they had three people motionless in a field with enough time 485 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,400 to paint this picture. 486 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,440 The pose on the left is quite a difficult one to hold for very long, 487 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,160 over like that. So the chances are it could have come from a quick drawing and 488 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,880 then elaborated on with paint. 489 00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:58,560 So you think this is something that was probably done in the studio? 490 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,520 But with inspiration taken from outdoors, figures that the artist may 491 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,640 quickly sketched? Yes, I think so. 492 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:10,100 McNichol's sketchbooks include many studies of people from day to day life. 493 00:32:11,660 --> 00:32:15,320 None that we found match exactly with the characters in David's picture. 494 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,760 But does Tony see any similarity in these preparatory sketches? 495 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,600 One thing I do notice is that she seems to like drawing the back view of people, 496 00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:27,060 where people are doing something. 497 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,300 I think it's a man with a hoe or something like that. 498 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:36,280 He's arched over a little bit like this figure. 499 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,600 There do appear to be similarities between the hunched -over figures in 500 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,880 picture and the male figures working in McNichol's sketch. 501 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,060 She obviously liked seeing people... 502 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:58,590 Doing things. Doing real things, and often in difficult poses. 503 00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:00,810 Yeah. Well, that is good to hear. 504 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:09,390 It feels like everything stylistically is adding up to McNicol. 505 00:33:10,050 --> 00:33:12,950 But does David's picture stand up to scientific scrutiny? 506 00:33:15,550 --> 00:33:18,670 The painting has arrived at the Courtauld Institute of Art. 507 00:33:19,260 --> 00:33:23,080 where Head of Conservation Professor Aviva Burnstock has been subjecting it 508 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,220 forensic examination. 509 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:32,180 She's getting to grips with the materials and techniques that the artist 510 00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:33,360 create David's picture. 511 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,920 Could Aviva's findings help establish whether McNicol painted it? 512 00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:42,040 We're on our way to hear Aviva's assessment. 513 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,800 Hi Aviva. Hi. 514 00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:51,360 This is David, the owner of the painting. Hi Aviva. Lovely to meet you. 515 00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:54,300 And it's a while since we've seen your picture. It's wonderful, isn't it, in 516 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:55,199 that light? 517 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,240 Yeah, it's nice to see it in raking light. You can look at the condition of 518 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,460 picture and where the re -stretching has happened. 519 00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:05,500 With intense light from the side, you can see the crease where the canvas was 520 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:07,720 folded over the smaller supporting frame. 521 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:12,040 Something that David tried to correct when he re -stretched it. 522 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,860 All the other edges I managed to flatten out with some catalogs on. But for some 523 00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:20,600 reason that one didn't want to flatten. 524 00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:22,340 You put catalogs on top of it? 525 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,600 Yeah, it's just solid auction catalogs. I've got thousands of them. 526 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,639 They're very good for weight. 527 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,219 I'm not sure if that's advised technique. No, it's not, no. 528 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,040 I was wondering when you restretched the painting onto the modern stretcher, 529 00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:39,719 whether you noticed these vertical marks which might indicate that it had been 530 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,780 rolled at some point. I think you're right, yes. 531 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:49,000 We know that McNichol transported canvases to and from Canada. 532 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,900 Rolling a number of them together might have been more practical on a long 533 00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:53,900 journey. 534 00:34:54,139 --> 00:34:57,180 So could these marks have been caused by McNichol herself? 535 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,060 It's a tantalising thought. 536 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:05,420 But I'm hoping comparison with a genuine McNichol in Canada can link David's 537 00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:07,660 picture more directly to the artist. 538 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:14,140 I've driven an hour south -west of Toronto. 539 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,920 to the art gallery of Hamilton to see McNichol's The Apple Gatherer. 540 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:27,100 Depicting a young woman harvesting fruit that's also stylistically similar, I'm 541 00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:29,460 looking for other parallels to David's picture. 542 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,740 The gallery has agreed to have The Apple Gatherer analysed by a team of 543 00:35:34,740 --> 00:35:37,400 conservators from Toronto Art Restoration. 544 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:45,570 I'm hoping science can reveal more, and sampling this genuine work will enable 545 00:35:45,570 --> 00:35:50,950 us to understand McNichol's working methods and uncover any idiosyncrasies. 546 00:35:51,570 --> 00:35:56,010 I'm meeting head conservator Alicia Coutts to hear what they've found. 547 00:35:57,550 --> 00:36:01,790 So what observations have you made about this canvas that might help us? 548 00:36:02,330 --> 00:36:05,310 Well, the artist might have prepared the canvas herself. 549 00:36:06,070 --> 00:36:08,730 or she might have had a commercially primed canvas. 550 00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:13,910 But either way, it's been primed all the way to the edge, and then it's been cut 551 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:19,130 before she starts painting on it, rather than stretching the canvas and priming 552 00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:21,650 it. We measured the thread count. 553 00:36:21,870 --> 00:36:26,150 We're looking at 8 vertical by 10 horizontal. 554 00:36:27,450 --> 00:36:33,110 Those are the threads that make up the canvas per centimetre square. This 555 00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:37,120 detail... is something we can use to compare with David's picture. 556 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,880 Okay, so what about the paint itself? Because, you know, Nicole seems very 557 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,820 conspicuous in the thickness and clarity of her paint. 558 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,120 Well, one thing that we've been looking at with our UV light is these hot pinks 559 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,120 that are coming up in different areas, not just in the face. 560 00:36:56,970 --> 00:37:01,710 but in kind of localized areas throughout the impasto as well. Yeah, 561 00:37:01,830 --> 00:37:07,630 Can you see them? They really shine out. They do. That fluorescing hot pink is 562 00:37:07,630 --> 00:37:10,390 significant of a red lake pigment. 563 00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:14,070 A red lake pigment. A red lake pigment. Which is what exactly? 564 00:37:14,530 --> 00:37:20,350 It's a transparent pigment. So normally artists are going to use red lakes. 565 00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:26,630 um in glazes and you use it to build up luminosity in the paint in some way okay 566 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:32,970 so it it it lies on the surface exactly but the way that mcnichol has 567 00:37:32,970 --> 00:37:39,830 used it in this case is quite unconventional yes she is using it that 568 00:37:39,830 --> 00:37:45,270 to warm some of her highlights and some of her shadows but in other areas the 569 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:48,550 red light pigment is mixed in right with the other colors 570 00:37:52,130 --> 00:37:57,250 McNicol has used the Red Lake pigment in a traditional manner as a glaze in the 571 00:37:57,250 --> 00:38:03,230 face and hands to give them a rosy glow, but more unusually, also mixed it with 572 00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:06,870 other colours, like in the patch of ground beneath the tree. 573 00:38:07,330 --> 00:38:11,730 It is a unique trait of this artist, so I'd say that if you were looking at 574 00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:16,130 other paintings, I think it is something that she did. 575 00:38:19,290 --> 00:38:20,290 Back in London. 576 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:22,980 Aviva has received this vital new information. 577 00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:28,840 Does David's picture have characteristics that match the apple 578 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:35,480 So in terms of the canvas, the warp and weft of it, how does that compare to a 579 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,280 known Helen McNichol? Interestingly, it's exactly the same as the canvas 580 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,980 produced. Yeah, 8 by 10 warp and weft. I like the apple. 581 00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:49,360 It's commercially primed canvas that would have been bought off a roll. So it 582 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,620 quite interesting that two paintings have the same canvas weave. 583 00:38:54,740 --> 00:38:58,920 Could David's painting have come from the same cut of canvas as the apple 584 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,920 gatherer? 585 00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:01,720 An intriguing thought. 586 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,880 But Aviva has something even more illuminating to reveal under ultraviolet 587 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,880 light. 588 00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:12,260 You can see bright pink. 589 00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:13,780 Fluorescent areas. 590 00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:17,800 That's almost day glow, though, isn't it? Really bright fluorescent, so it's 591 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,080 some kind of organic lake pigment. And you can see it in the flesh paint in 592 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,500 particular and the shadows. It's really electric. 593 00:39:24,380 --> 00:39:27,300 Certainly other artists will have used the pigment. It was probably available 594 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:31,060 commercially. But to use it specifically like this would be quite unusual. 595 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,060 For the flesh paint, but also other areas and highlights in the composition, 596 00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:38,880 the background and the mid -ground, this is quite specific. 597 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,900 So when it comes to this... lake pigment. 598 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,740 How does that compare with the picture in Canada? 599 00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:49,720 Well, the comparable painting in Canada, you can see very similar use of this 600 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,600 brightly fluorescing pink lake pigment. 601 00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:55,720 So that is certainly looking very promising. 602 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,460 Can I sit down for a minute? 603 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,240 Well, that was so encouraging. 604 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,960 The technical analysis has really come up trumps, I think, for David's picture. 605 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:10,360 The canvas has exactly the same weave. 606 00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:16,560 And then the use of the red lake pigment. I mean, that is idiosyncratic. 607 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,538 unusual. 608 00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:23,100 But crucially, it's the same pigment used in the same way on a known Helen 609 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:24,940 McNichol, the apple gatherer. 610 00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:28,560 It's not conclusive proof, but it looks really good. 611 00:40:31,210 --> 00:40:35,710 Back in Canada, whispers that we might be investigating a potential Helen 612 00:40:35,710 --> 00:40:37,170 McNichol have spread. 613 00:40:37,690 --> 00:40:42,050 The billionaire collector, Pierre Lassonde, whose collection I saw in 614 00:40:42,350 --> 00:40:44,930 wants to know more about David's picture. 615 00:40:45,730 --> 00:40:49,130 He's requested we meet at his home in Toronto. 616 00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:52,850 Well, well, well. So glad to meet you. Me too. 617 00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:54,970 Yes, please, come on in. 618 00:40:56,590 --> 00:41:02,270 Pierre has the largest private collection of McNichols in the world, 619 00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:06,630 one of her most celebrated works, The Chintz Sofa. 620 00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:13,830 He paid 888 ,000 Canadian dollars, over half a million pounds. 621 00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:23,970 So, Pierre, this, am I right in thinking, is the record price for a 622 00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:25,390 by McNichol? Yeah, it is. 623 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,940 It is, and I'm the fortunate individual who paid it. 624 00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:34,600 Along with the rest of Pierre's collection, the chintz sofa will soon be 625 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,160 to Quebec as part of the upcoming major McNicol exhibition. 626 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:45,000 And Pierre has a plan for the collection's long -term future, too. 627 00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:50,160 I have more McNicol than all of the museum in the world. 628 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,360 Think about this, OK? Like, does that make sense? 629 00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:00,160 No. This collection should be in the public world, and it will be 630 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,240 gifted at some point. So that's more than likely where it's going to end up. 631 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,800 So as the world's biggest collector of nickel, you've obviously seen a lot. 632 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,600 Would you mind if we showed you ours? 633 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,460 I would love to see it. 634 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,300 So, first response. 635 00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:19,660 Wow. 636 00:42:19,940 --> 00:42:20,940 Wow. 637 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,320 Composition. 638 00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:31,110 Incredible. The colors, that purple, that's so much mechanical, that purple 639 00:42:31,110 --> 00:42:32,110 right here. 640 00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:35,590 Everything speaks mechanical here. Everything. 641 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:38,110 Beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. 642 00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:41,210 Well, you're speaking, I have to say, with great conviction because we have 643 00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:42,029 to prove it. 644 00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:47,490 So I'm going to ask you directly, would you, if all the evidence was there in 645 00:42:47,490 --> 00:42:49,730 place, wish to add this to your collection? 646 00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:56,310 Without a doubt. 647 00:42:56,430 --> 00:42:57,970 Without a doubt, absolutely. 648 00:42:58,630 --> 00:43:05,370 But I would have, number one, to see it, and number two, get a provenance. 649 00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:07,270 Like, I want to know where it came from, okay? 650 00:43:07,830 --> 00:43:11,690 And then number three, you know, we'd have to talk Turkey, we'd have to talk 651 00:43:11,690 --> 00:43:12,690 price. 652 00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:15,330 Okay, well, that's given us a lot to think about. 653 00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:20,370 Of course, it does occur to me that David's discovery could end up as part 654 00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:25,310 The National Collection of Canada, if indeed you gift your collection by the 655 00:43:25,310 --> 00:43:26,310 sounds of it you intend. 656 00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:28,770 Yeah, more than likely, I would say. 657 00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:35,190 Well, it's going to make our job all the more pressing to try and prove what 658 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:37,430 this was called, where it might have been. 659 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:39,330 Good. Terrific. 660 00:43:41,530 --> 00:43:43,310 This is a fir. 661 00:43:43,630 --> 00:43:47,850 Before we even got to the finishing line, there is a buyer waiting in the 662 00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:52,490 But like any collector, He wants to know where David's picture came from. 663 00:43:53,090 --> 00:43:56,750 Without provenance, David may struggle to sell it. 664 00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:01,990 Back from Canada, I'm keen to catch up with Fiona. 665 00:44:04,690 --> 00:44:09,330 So it really feels we're getting warmer, but we're still lacking documented 666 00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:13,790 history. Well, remember that name, I'm sure you've not forgotten it, Pine 667 00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:15,290 Coffin, that we saw in the provenance? 668 00:44:15,970 --> 00:44:19,170 Well, no -one from the family has any recollection of the painting. 669 00:44:19,660 --> 00:44:23,880 But there was an artist in the family who was painting around the same time as 670 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,980 Helen Mitnickle. She was called Norma. She lived in Exeter. She exhibited in 671 00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:31,520 London. She might have known Helen Mitnickle, perhaps. 672 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:37,240 I mean, given how unusual that name, Pine Coffin, is, it must be worth 673 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:40,980 out. And then the name of the painting, remember? 674 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,560 Women of the Field. 675 00:44:42,940 --> 00:44:48,280 Now, there's no record of Helen Mitnickle having painted a picture 676 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,280 of the Field. 677 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,180 I mean, what do we think is going on in this picture? 678 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,320 Well, I mean, harvesting, picking something. 679 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,660 Picking something. Well, that's the thing. So having spoken to someone who 680 00:44:59,660 --> 00:45:05,280 about plants, yellow French beans, that's the best guess. 681 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,780 And in fact, look, I've got from here, there's a seed packet with yellow French 682 00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:09,499 beans in. 683 00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:10,319 And do you see? 684 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,620 They do look just like that. 685 00:45:11,860 --> 00:45:17,540 I can see exactly what you mean. You know, there's very clear swipes of... 686 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,960 Bright pigment. 687 00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:20,180 I mean, that's brilliant. 688 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,660 Have you spilt the beans, as it were, to Julie Nash in Canada? 689 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,580 Like what you did there? Well, yes. We have spoken to Julie Nash, and she had a 690 00:45:27,580 --> 00:45:32,300 look through Helen McNichol records, and she did have a painting called The Bean 691 00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:33,300 Harvest. 692 00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:40,480 And it was exhibited in Canada five times between 1912 and 693 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,600 1913. 694 00:45:42,380 --> 00:45:45,220 But no -one knows where it is now. 695 00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:48,100 I mean, this is potentially fantastic. 696 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,360 But then how does a picture that is exhibited within an inch of its life in 697 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,180 Canada then end up over here? 698 00:45:55,700 --> 00:46:00,200 Well, we found out after a bit of digging that Helen McNichol did exhibit 699 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,820 England just a few months before her death in 1915. 700 00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:07,980 And the painting she exhibited was The Bean Harvest. 701 00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:10,800 And where was it exhibited? 702 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,140 Just up the road at the Royal Academy. 703 00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:15,200 Which is where we need to go next. 704 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,960 In January 1915, the Royal Academy staged the War Relief Exhibition. 705 00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:29,960 It was held a few months into the First World War to raise money for the Red 706 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,040 Cross and St John Ambulance Society. 707 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,820 It had royal patronage, and there were over 800 exhibits. 708 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:43,720 But crucially for us, it included one submission from Helen McNichol, the Bean 709 00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:44,720 Harvest. 710 00:46:46,030 --> 00:46:51,030 It was one of the last paintings McNichol exhibited before her untimely 711 00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:56,010 from diabetes in June of the same year. By then, she'd amassed an impressive 712 00:46:56,010 --> 00:47:00,230 exhibition record of more than 70 works in Britain and Canada. 713 00:47:01,630 --> 00:47:07,090 The question is, is the bean harvest and David's picture one and the same? 714 00:47:08,270 --> 00:47:13,670 So, David, this is the exhibition catalogue, War Relief Exhibition. 715 00:47:14,090 --> 00:47:17,850 And what I'd like you to do is turn to page 17. 716 00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:26,750 And then I want you to look at 2, 4, 1. 717 00:47:27,390 --> 00:47:28,690 Oh, my God, yes. 718 00:47:30,690 --> 00:47:33,230 The bean harvest, that works very well. 719 00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:35,770 Helen McNichol, RBA. 720 00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:40,850 A painting of this subject is not yet accounted for. 721 00:47:41,230 --> 00:47:46,130 So there's a nice little sort of bean -shaped hole that possibly yours could 722 00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:48,050 into. Yeah, it would be nice. 723 00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:54,710 The bean harvest must have been a special painting for McNicol, exhibited 724 00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:59,790 times in Canada, then shipped over to England to exhibit here at this 725 00:47:59,790 --> 00:48:05,390 exhibition. But unfortunately, this catalogue has no photographs or 726 00:48:05,390 --> 00:48:06,390 of the exhibits. 727 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,060 so we can't be 100 % sure that it is David's picture. 728 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,940 But a tantalising link to another artist has been found by the librarians here. 729 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,020 They've given me a catalogue from 1914. 730 00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:27,840 I would like you just to turn your eye to a 731 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,120 reference to... Oh, yes, yes. 732 00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:35,880 N .P. Coffin, The Call of the Wild. 733 00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:43,570 Norma Pinecoffin was an artist in the early years of the 20th century. 734 00:48:43,730 --> 00:48:50,370 So we have a woman artist exhibiting only a few months before 735 00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:54,610 Helen McNicol exhibited at this same revered institution. 736 00:48:56,410 --> 00:49:01,850 It's tempting to imagine that Helen McNicol and Norma Pinecoffin attended 737 00:49:01,850 --> 00:49:04,550 of these exhibitions, that they met... 738 00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:09,190 and even that the bean harvest passed from one to the other. 739 00:49:09,810 --> 00:49:15,450 This could be the final missing link connecting David's picture to the pine 740 00:49:15,450 --> 00:49:16,550 coffin provenance. 741 00:49:17,870 --> 00:49:21,950 So how are you feeling about the chances of the painting now? I think you've 742 00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:27,110 done wonderful. I mean, really, what you found, I think there's hope there. 743 00:49:27,550 --> 00:49:28,590 I really do. 744 00:49:33,870 --> 00:49:37,750 Following this latest discovery, we're feeling pretty confident that David's 745 00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:41,210 picture is the missing McNicol exhibited as the bean harvest. 746 00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:50,730 With no single authority recognised to authenticate McNicol, we've asked 747 00:49:50,730 --> 00:49:54,190 Professor Samantha Burton for an expert opinion based on professional 748 00:49:54,190 --> 00:49:57,350 photographs and our dossier of evidence. 749 00:50:00,410 --> 00:50:02,190 A few days later... 750 00:50:02,620 --> 00:50:03,840 We received a reply. 751 00:50:05,180 --> 00:50:06,920 I think we're in a really strong position. 752 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,180 The picture looks like a McNicol. Everyone agrees. 753 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,820 The canvas maps is that of a known McNicol. 754 00:50:15,980 --> 00:50:21,160 And that idiosyncratic use of Red Lake pigment is exactly the same. 755 00:50:22,540 --> 00:50:27,940 We have come across the title of a lost picture that fits. The Bean Harvest. 756 00:50:28,460 --> 00:50:35,200 And not only that, but a richly exhibited work in Canada and up the road 757 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,200 the Royal Academy. 758 00:50:36,260 --> 00:50:41,660 We may also have made sense of that pine coffin provenance. 759 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,360 The question is, is it enough to swing it? 760 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,560 as a genuine McNichol. 761 00:51:01,140 --> 00:51:02,140 Hello, David. 762 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,480 Hi there. 763 00:51:03,580 --> 00:51:04,580 Lovely to meet you again. 764 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,160 Nice to see you. 765 00:51:06,620 --> 00:51:09,740 And nice to see your painting. Yeah, lovely. 766 00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:11,740 So this is it. 767 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,180 I've got the verdict here. 768 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,520 I'm frightened of it, honestly. 769 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:18,560 There's quite a lot riding on it. 770 00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:20,260 Yeah, absolutely. 771 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,840 It's been a little while since we started this investigation. 772 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,460 And I would feel bad asking you this at this point. 773 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,880 If this is by Helen McNichol, what kind of value are we talking about? 774 00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:37,240 So in the case of Helen McNichol, we're dealing with a rare artist. 775 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,320 There are about 300 works recorded by her. And if you compare that to one of 776 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,680 fathers of Impressionism, like Monet, for whom there are 2 ,000 works, you 777 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,480 realise what a key thing it is to be able to potentially add another. It 778 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,000 also be the only painting which she exhibited. 779 00:51:55,470 --> 00:51:57,250 up the road at the Royal Academy. 780 00:51:57,710 --> 00:52:04,270 Yes. I think we could be talking about a valuation of £300 ,000 and some. 781 00:52:05,290 --> 00:52:08,610 But I've got to add, though, of course, if it's not, what did you pay for it? 782 00:52:09,450 --> 00:52:10,450 £2 ,500. 783 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:13,150 You may be lucky and get your money back. 784 00:52:13,770 --> 00:52:16,250 Shall I open this? OK. 785 00:52:18,070 --> 00:52:19,710 OK, here we go. Here we go. 786 00:52:47,610 --> 00:52:49,010 Emotional. 787 00:52:53,540 --> 00:52:57,700 Oh, you're making a tear to my eye now as well, my goodness. Well done, well 788 00:52:57,700 --> 00:53:00,460 done, well done. So grateful for all your work. 789 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:03,240 Wonderful. 790 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,940 Not only does Sam believe that David's picture is by Helen McNichol, but she 791 00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:11,640 agrees it probably is the missing bean harvest. 792 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:16,340 The subject matters and the style of the painting looks very similar to others 793 00:53:16,340 --> 00:53:18,360 he created at this stage of her career. 794 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:19,840 Just wonderful. 795 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,640 To add. 796 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,060 something through our work. 797 00:53:23,580 --> 00:53:24,860 How thrilled are you? 798 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,640 Very. 799 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,500 Tears of happiness, I hope. 800 00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:33,900 Absolutely. 801 00:53:34,780 --> 00:53:40,060 What do you want to happen to this painting? When we met you first, you 802 00:53:40,060 --> 00:53:41,160 thought you'd sell it. 803 00:53:41,580 --> 00:53:45,200 I'm thinking, yes, I need to sell it. 804 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,540 I'm negotiating two or three flights of stairs at the moment. 805 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,680 Yes, I'm not... 806 00:53:51,730 --> 00:53:52,970 Not in the best of health. 807 00:53:53,590 --> 00:53:57,530 So this might facilitate you buying something else? Hopefully, yeah. 808 00:53:57,870 --> 00:53:59,670 Somewhere on one level. On one level. 809 00:54:00,450 --> 00:54:03,250 So it really is life -changing then? It is, absolutely, yes. 810 00:54:11,090 --> 00:54:14,710 That life -changing moment may be getting closer. 811 00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:24,290 The billionaire collector Pierre Lassonde has flown in from Toronto. 812 00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:29,770 He's come to see David's picture in person. 813 00:54:33,730 --> 00:54:37,010 Well, this is a first for us. We have an owner who wants to sell a painting and 814 00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:42,190 we have a potential buyer coming all the way over from Canada to see it for 815 00:54:42,190 --> 00:54:44,690 himself. I mean, it's about as exciting as it gets. 816 00:54:47,010 --> 00:54:51,280 Having met Pierre, he's a... A serious collector, as serious as you get. 817 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,060 And he likes his McNichols. 818 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,460 It's going to be fascinating to see what happens. 819 00:55:01,940 --> 00:55:06,620 If Pierre likes what he sees, will he make David an offer he can't refuse? 820 00:55:13,220 --> 00:55:16,700 David is on his way back to the gallery to hear Pierre's thoughts. 821 00:55:20,490 --> 00:55:21,750 Hello, David. Hello there. 822 00:55:22,070 --> 00:55:24,090 David, could I introduce Pierre Lafonte? 823 00:55:24,650 --> 00:55:26,950 It's very nice to meet you. Very nice to meet you. 824 00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:29,370 You're the man of the hour. 825 00:55:31,930 --> 00:55:37,050 So you saw an image of it with Philip, and now you're seeing it in the flesh. I 826 00:55:37,050 --> 00:55:38,050 mean, what do you think about it? 827 00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:43,690 But, you know, she's done it again. It's beautiful. 828 00:55:43,950 --> 00:55:45,290 It really is magnificent. 829 00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:51,730 So as the biggest collector of nickel, how do you rate this? 830 00:55:52,790 --> 00:55:57,050 To be very candid, I would put it at like a 9 out of 10. 831 00:55:57,670 --> 00:56:01,690 You've given it a 9 out of 10. That sounds like a high score, wouldn't you 832 00:56:01,710 --> 00:56:02,950 David? It sounds like it. 833 00:56:04,830 --> 00:56:05,830 You know what? 834 00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:09,370 For a painting that's been missing for 110 years, I think it's fantastic. 835 00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:13,530 I think your discovery was absolutely, you know, like, fantastic. 836 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,160 wouldn't mind adding one more piece to my collection. 837 00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:20,160 They're all going to end up in a museum anyway. 838 00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:24,300 I mean, you know, like we're only the temporary guardian of these 839 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,140 Well, look, it sounds to me like you need to have a private conversation away 840 00:56:28,140 --> 00:56:29,140 from the cameras. 841 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,660 Whatever you decide, I'm glad that you've met and let us know what the 842 00:56:33,660 --> 00:56:35,000 is. Okay, will do. 843 00:56:35,260 --> 00:56:36,620 Okay, thank you so much. 844 00:56:40,220 --> 00:56:41,340 Pierre made an offer. 845 00:56:41,950 --> 00:56:44,630 And David is now considering his options. 846 00:56:47,350 --> 00:56:52,190 There isn't a world in which former small -time art dealer David from 847 00:56:52,190 --> 00:56:58,410 would meet billionaire art collector Pierre Lassonde from Canada were it not 848 00:56:58,410 --> 00:57:01,970 this painting and their mutual love of Helen McNicol. 849 00:57:02,210 --> 00:57:03,590 There's clearly more to come. 850 00:57:03,970 --> 00:57:09,070 I'm just so happy for David. He went in there with his... 851 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,280 £2 ,500, 852 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,900 you know, big bet, and has discovered a treasure. It just shows it's still 853 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:16,900 possible. 854 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,940 If you think you have an undiscovered masterpiece or other precious object, 855 00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:29,120 contact us at bbc .co .uk slash sake or fortune. 74862

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