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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,259 In this episode of American Greed, Carl Carlson considers himself a country 2 00:00:06,260 --> 00:00:09,199 gentleman. I think he strived to be the center of attention. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,759 He runs a sprawling farm. He raises Belgian draft horses. My father liked to 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,560 keep them, and the bigger the better. 5 00:00:15,620 --> 00:00:18,320 And he does it all on a factory worker's salary. 6 00:00:18,660 --> 00:00:22,000 How? I mean, the whole thing just makes no sense. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,880 The answer may lie in the so -called accidents that keep happening. 8 00:00:25,881 --> 00:00:28,199 911, what's the location of your emergency? 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,820 Does anybody need an ambulance? 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Accidents that claim the lives of his son and wife. 11 00:00:33,940 --> 00:00:38,179 She's in there and she's stuck and she's going to die. I started screaming and I 12 00:00:38,180 --> 00:00:39,230 couldn't even stop. 13 00:00:39,340 --> 00:00:42,780 Accidents that always lead to a hefty insurance payoff. 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,360 Between the cars, the vacations, the duck farm, I really wondered. 15 00:00:48,140 --> 00:00:52,419 Where he was coming up with the money. Will the authorities ever confirm what 16 00:00:52,420 --> 00:00:54,400 his terrified children know to be true? 17 00:00:54,540 --> 00:00:59,879 Tonight, the secrets of a man who sacrifices his loved ones for money. 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,360 human being is expendable for a check. 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,740 As told by the family members who made it out alive. 20 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:09,380 That man doesn't deserve to live. 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,660 Dad, he does not deserve to live. 22 00:01:31,660 --> 00:01:36,979 It's 2008 in Berwick, New York, a rural town nestled in the Finger Lakes region 23 00:01:36,980 --> 00:01:38,030 of the state. 24 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,659 In the rolling fields between Seneca and Cayuga Lakes sits the farm of Carl 25 00:01:44,660 --> 00:01:45,710 Carlson. 26 00:01:46,660 --> 00:01:52,039 Carlson is a factory worker, but the farm is his true passion. He raises 27 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,090 draft horses. 28 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,580 Our farm was a hobby farm. We usually had between 25 and 30 horses on the 29 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,860 The horses can weigh up to 2 ,000 pounds and cost up to $10 ,000 each. 30 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,240 The impressive horses fit right in with Carl's self -image. 31 00:02:08,241 --> 00:02:10,739 He's actually very impressed with himself. 32 00:02:10,740 --> 00:02:14,379 I think he had the tendency to be a little bit of a storyteller and a 33 00:02:14,380 --> 00:02:17,820 in his own mind. Anything he could do to draw attention to himself. 34 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Michael Carlson is Carl's older brother. 35 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,760 It's all about him. 36 00:02:23,420 --> 00:02:26,200 And money and his success, his image, his prestige. 37 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,940 Carlson manages the farm on his own with occasional help from his four children. 38 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,120 Three are from his previous marriage. 39 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:39,600 Aaron, the firstborn, son Levi, and Katie, the youngest. 40 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:42,750 When times were good with Dad, they were really good. 41 00:02:43,060 --> 00:02:49,639 So he and I spent an awful lot of time going across the hayfields on 42 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:52,040 tractors or, you know. 43 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,299 plowing the snow in the winter, and so there was a lot of good memories that I 44 00:02:57,300 --> 00:02:59,240 have associated with stuff like that. 45 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,740 Despite his bucolic life, Carlson is sometimes at odds with his son Levi. 46 00:03:05,580 --> 00:03:10,679 Levi, seen here with his high school sweetheart Cassie, doesn't fit in to 47 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,700 idealized view of his family. 48 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,279 Levi was into heavy metal. He hated country western, but Carl loved country 49 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,330 western. 50 00:03:19,650 --> 00:03:22,470 Carl was into country western music, square dancing. 51 00:03:22,690 --> 00:03:25,410 He very much considered himself a country gentleman. 52 00:03:25,790 --> 00:03:30,650 Levi, now 23, moves out of his father's home at age 16. 53 00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:34,910 He hopped for a bit. He would go stay with friends. 54 00:03:35,530 --> 00:03:40,129 And then he, you know, met and fell in love with Cassie. He was different. And 55 00:03:40,130 --> 00:03:42,660 he seemed very comfortable with being different. 56 00:03:42,661 --> 00:03:47,329 I remember the first time I saw him, he was dressed in his goth gear and his 57 00:03:47,330 --> 00:03:50,050 hair was blue. I found that, like, very interesting. 58 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:53,990 Shortly after she graduates high school, Cassie and Levi marry. 59 00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:59,070 Our daughter was born about six weeks after we got married. 60 00:03:59,850 --> 00:04:02,390 She was the best thing to ever happen to him. 61 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:05,570 He loved her so much. 62 00:04:05,970 --> 00:04:10,390 The two eventually have two daughters, but the magic doesn't last. 63 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,299 They divorce after a few years of marriage, but remain on good terms for 64 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:16,319 kid's sake. 65 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,199 And there was always lots of kisses and lots of playing, and he was very active 66 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,250 with them. 67 00:04:21,420 --> 00:04:23,140 They were his whole world. 68 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:28,979 Levi and his father Carl don't have much contact, but still see each other a few 69 00:04:28,980 --> 00:04:29,939 times a year. 70 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:36,259 On this day, November 20, 2008, Carl calls his son and asks if he can help 71 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:37,660 up his old farm truck. 72 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:40,520 Levi has a knack for working with cars. 73 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,039 It was a big pickup truck, like one of those F -250s, something like that. Big 74 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,090 old farm truck. 75 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,960 The truck is a couple of decades old, but it's a workhorse. 76 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:52,840 Carlson uses it around the farm often. 77 00:04:53,660 --> 00:04:56,620 Carlson says the truck needs repairs on its brakes. 78 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:59,560 He gives Levi 50 bucks for the job. 79 00:04:59,860 --> 00:05:03,200 Levi was very well known for being able to help where he could. 80 00:05:03,201 --> 00:05:06,799 When it came to helping his father with things, the way a lot of times that he 81 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,280 saw it was if he was helping, then the job was getting done. 82 00:05:10,540 --> 00:05:14,819 When Levi arrives at the farm, the truck is already jacked up and ready for 83 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:19,480 repairs. The plan is for Levi to do the work while Carl and his wife Cindy, 84 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Levi's stepmother, attend the funeral of a relative. 85 00:05:24,060 --> 00:05:28,340 As Cindy waits in their car, Carl speaks to Levi in the barn. 86 00:05:28,660 --> 00:05:30,060 Then he joins her. 87 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,450 And they drive off. 88 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,140 That was about noontime. Left with his wife to go to a funeral in Pan Yan. 89 00:05:35,141 --> 00:05:38,979 Went to a reception after the funeral at the Moose Club. Acted like he always 90 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:41,330 acted. Laughed and joked because he always did. 91 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:45,519 When Carl and his wife Cindy return from the funeral, they're stunned at what 92 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,640 they find in the barn. 93 00:05:47,260 --> 00:05:49,240 Levi is pinned underneath the truck. 94 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,539 Came home at about 3 .50 p .m., discovered his son, and screamed out for 95 00:05:54,540 --> 00:05:55,590 wife to call 911. 96 00:05:55,591 --> 00:05:58,179 911, what's the location of your emergency? 97 00:05:58,180 --> 00:05:59,230 Yes, I live it. 98 00:06:13,669 --> 00:06:15,690 Levi is dead. 99 00:06:16,090 --> 00:06:22,489 So I was driving to my boyfriend's house at the time, and halfway there I got a 100 00:06:22,490 --> 00:06:23,810 phone call from my grandpa. 101 00:06:23,930 --> 00:06:27,630 And his exact words were, 102 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,650 Levi's gone. 103 00:06:30,940 --> 00:06:36,219 While Carl is at the funeral, authorities say the thin, wobbly 104 00:06:36,220 --> 00:06:38,660 that props up the truck falls over. 105 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,599 You know, it sounded like a tragic accident for everything that was 106 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,840 me, that the jack slipped is what I was told. 107 00:06:45,380 --> 00:06:47,730 The jack slipped and the truck came down on him. 108 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:51,820 Cassie is so stunned she can't even tell her kids what happened. 109 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:53,470 It was awful. 110 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,460 It was absolutely awful. 111 00:06:56,430 --> 00:07:00,569 I couldn't even gather myself up enough to be the one to tell my children my 112 00:07:00,570 --> 00:07:01,620 mother told them. 113 00:07:02,190 --> 00:07:05,150 Carl Carlson says he thinks he's cursed. 114 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:10,249 This is the second time a close family member of his has died in a tragic 115 00:07:10,250 --> 00:07:16,689 accident. That was our life growing up. One bad incident after 116 00:07:16,690 --> 00:07:17,740 another. 117 00:07:21,710 --> 00:07:26,589 Carl Carlson and his family's accidents is a story that spans several decades 118 00:07:26,590 --> 00:07:28,330 and thousands of miles. 119 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:33,890 In the early 1980s, Carlson is a cadet in the Air Force. 120 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:39,569 While stationed in North Dakota, working with nuclear missiles, Carlson is drawn 121 00:07:39,570 --> 00:07:42,270 to the wife of a fellow cadet, Christina Alexander. 122 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:47,590 Despite her marriage, Carl sweeps Christina off her feet. 123 00:07:47,950 --> 00:07:50,090 Carl and Christina have this whirlwind. 124 00:07:50,909 --> 00:07:54,150 when they met on the Air Force Base in North Dakota. 125 00:07:54,490 --> 00:07:57,450 Michael Carlson is two years older than his brother. 126 00:07:57,710 --> 00:08:00,190 The first time we met her is when they came home. 127 00:08:00,710 --> 00:08:06,849 We knew nothing about her other than he called my father and said, I'm going to 128 00:08:06,850 --> 00:08:10,630 be a dad, and oh, by the way, I'm married. And when they got out of the 129 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:11,820 he came home with her. 130 00:08:11,950 --> 00:08:16,449 Christina and Carl Carlson settled in central New York, close to where Carl 131 00:08:16,450 --> 00:08:17,500 up. 132 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,080 Carlson's family is impressed with his new wife. 133 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,780 She's an amazing young lady. 134 00:08:23,020 --> 00:08:24,070 Great kid. 135 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:26,120 The sun was always shining in her world. 136 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Just always had a smile on her face. 137 00:08:28,860 --> 00:08:32,740 The couple eventually have three young children, Aaron, Levi, and Katie. 138 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:37,380 Carl works at the local stone quarry, but money is tight. 139 00:08:37,820 --> 00:08:40,940 We were all in the same mode in life. 140 00:08:41,220 --> 00:08:44,800 Young kids ourselves, newly married. 141 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:49,509 I don't think any one of us had a nickel to rub between. You know, it's just we 142 00:08:49,510 --> 00:08:50,830 were all trying to survive. 143 00:08:54,010 --> 00:08:58,309 Christina's family lives out west in central California in the foothills of 144 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:59,590 Sierra Nevada Mountains. 145 00:09:00,270 --> 00:09:04,789 Her father owns a sheet metal business. He offers his new son -in -law an 146 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:09,669 opportunity. You know, I told him, look, if you ever need a job, come on out to 147 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:11,890 California and you work with me. 148 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,519 In the late 80s, Christina and Carl take him up on the offer and relocate to her 149 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,320 hometown of Murphys, California. 150 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,620 Christina's sister, Colette, says Carl is charming. 151 00:09:24,980 --> 00:09:27,150 He can be very friendly. He can be very funny. 152 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,219 So my first impression with him was that he had a great sense of humor and that 153 00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:33,360 he made me laugh a lot. 154 00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:36,540 Christina's father finds a home for the young family. 155 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,720 I had a house for them that I rented up above. 156 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,170 Murphy's on the highway or just off the highway. 157 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,919 So I thought it might be good for them, you know, save a little bit of money 158 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,199 that they could live in that house for free. But Carl doesn't like being under 159 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,580 his father -in -law's thumb. 160 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,540 He eventually finds his own home deep in the woods. 161 00:09:59,860 --> 00:10:02,600 Pretty much like an old miner's shack. 162 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,140 Carl's mother -in -law is appalled. 163 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,359 And when I got there and saw the state of that house, that wasn't a house, it 164 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,410 was a shack. 165 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:18,420 Had water from the creek kind of thing. It was just all time living. 166 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:24,559 The status of the home was, it was a downgrade. So I was a little 167 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:30,180 when she told me they were moving. It was in not the greatest of condition. 168 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,159 What the family doesn't know is that the new home would become the site of their 169 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,440 first great tragedy. 170 00:10:38,180 --> 00:10:39,720 Next on American Greed. 171 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:46,179 I got a phone call from my dad, and he simply told me there was a fire out at 172 00:10:46,180 --> 00:10:48,920 your sister's house, and your sister didn't get out. 173 00:11:04,010 --> 00:11:08,709 Situated in the foothills of the Sierra Nevadas, Murphy's, California, is where 174 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:10,670 the 49ers hunted for gold. 175 00:11:11,210 --> 00:11:14,750 For Christina and Colette, it was a great place to grow up. 176 00:11:15,030 --> 00:11:19,650 So we grew up nowhere near a city, very much outdoors. 177 00:11:20,410 --> 00:11:24,569 For Christina Carlson, the opportunity to raise her own kids in this 178 00:11:24,570 --> 00:11:26,530 is too good to pass up. 179 00:11:26,531 --> 00:11:30,389 And then when I got the phone call that they were moving to California, I was so 180 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:34,410 ecstatic. because now I knew I could be closer to her. 181 00:11:34,970 --> 00:11:37,750 The kids recall good times at the cabin. 182 00:11:37,970 --> 00:11:42,029 My mom used to take us on walks all the time, and we would collect leaves or 183 00:11:42,030 --> 00:11:44,930 acorns or whatever and press them into little books. 184 00:11:45,210 --> 00:11:49,630 We would go downtown Murphy's and go to the candy shop or the ice cream shop. 185 00:11:50,170 --> 00:11:56,869 We would play the hokey pokey on the record machine. She'd get out the record 186 00:11:56,870 --> 00:12:00,010 and put it on, and we'd stand in the living room. 187 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,440 dancing to the hokey pokey. 188 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,719 But shortly after their arrival, Christina's family notices that all is 189 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,680 right with her marriage to Carl. 190 00:12:09,940 --> 00:12:16,419 So he controlled my sister mentally because he would tell her that she was 191 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:22,019 chubby. He knew that because she was so sensitive about her weight that he could 192 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:23,280 destroy her self -esteem. 193 00:12:23,540 --> 00:12:29,340 Carl had never allowed Chris to have any of the holidays with me. 194 00:12:30,579 --> 00:12:33,220 Or go shopping with me unless he was there. 195 00:12:33,820 --> 00:12:39,299 One year for her birthday, I bought her, back in the day they had these things 196 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:40,380 called glamour shots. 197 00:12:40,381 --> 00:12:44,199 And so you would go to the glamour shot and they would do your makeup and your 198 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,060 hair and make you feel like a princess. 199 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,259 So we get back to my house and we walked in the door and he looked at her and he 200 00:12:51,260 --> 00:12:54,880 said, you look like a whore, go take your makeup off. 201 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,120 And she just ran down the hall crying. 202 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,440 The Carlson's cabin is located about five miles outside of downtown Murphys. 203 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:07,339 To get to the home, one must drive down a long, winding road through the 204 00:13:07,340 --> 00:13:11,900 mountains. They had one car, so he would take the car. 205 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,340 My sister and the kids were stranded out at this house, and it's not walkable, 206 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,870 so she was stuck out there completely by herself. 207 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,700 Collette says that Carl also physically abuses her sister. 208 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,500 She called me up one time and... 209 00:13:26,060 --> 00:13:31,579 She said he knocked her so hard she flew all the way across the room. And I 210 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:33,580 said, you need to get out. 211 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,140 Like, you have got to get out of here because it's getting worse. 212 00:13:37,820 --> 00:13:41,959 And she said, Colette, I don't want to be divorced twice. And how am I going to 213 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,010 take care of my kids? 214 00:13:43,060 --> 00:13:45,770 The sisters keep their conversations to themselves. 215 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,019 I knew I couldn't react because if I had said anything, he'd have taken it out 216 00:13:51,020 --> 00:13:52,070 on my sister. 217 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,159 In 1990, Christina's family goes to her mother's house outside Sacramento for 218 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,700 Christmas. But Arlene says the holiday visit is odd. 219 00:14:01,060 --> 00:14:05,459 Even though the drive is just an hour and a half long, Christina and her 220 00:14:05,460 --> 00:14:07,260 have never made the trip before. 221 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:14,359 On Christmas Eve, they came down for the very first time and all the time that 222 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,200 Chris lived there in Murphy's. 223 00:14:17,140 --> 00:14:18,900 And I was puzzled by it. 224 00:14:20,820 --> 00:14:23,470 I thought, Something is not right. 225 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:29,549 She says Carl's demeanor is pleasant during the visit, but something is off, 226 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:33,169 she can't put her finger on it. And I knew something was going wrong, but I 227 00:14:33,170 --> 00:14:34,310 didn't know what it was. 228 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:37,910 Christmas was the last time I saw her. 229 00:14:39,090 --> 00:14:44,369 One week later, on New Year's Day in 1991, Christina Carlson and her family 230 00:14:44,370 --> 00:14:47,140 back home at their cabin outside Murphys, California. 231 00:14:48,190 --> 00:14:51,170 The family is enjoying a lazy New Year's Day. 232 00:14:51,930 --> 00:14:56,449 Despite being just six years of age at the time, oldest daughter Erin remembers 233 00:14:56,450 --> 00:14:57,850 the day vividly. 234 00:14:58,290 --> 00:15:03,330 So I remember that we were playing. 235 00:15:03,550 --> 00:15:07,250 My dad rounded the three of us up. He took us out to the yard. 236 00:15:07,510 --> 00:15:14,409 He had our Christmas tree out in the gravel driveway, and he said he wanted 237 00:15:14,410 --> 00:15:19,669 to see how quick a house could burn. So he put some fuel over it and lit it up, 238 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:21,709 and we just kind of stood there and watched it. 239 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:25,809 Erin says that she and her two siblings go back into the cabin to take their 240 00:15:25,810 --> 00:15:26,890 afternoon naps. 241 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:32,649 Erin shares a room with little sister Katie. While lying in bed, she recalls 242 00:15:32,650 --> 00:15:34,030 hearing her mother yelling. 243 00:15:35,310 --> 00:15:40,369 So I woke up and I went over to our bedroom door and it had been left ajar 244 00:15:40,370 --> 00:15:44,310 could see that there was fire on the other side of the door. 245 00:15:44,570 --> 00:15:46,530 The tiny cabin is on fire. 246 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,239 Erin wakes up her little sister Katie and runs toward the bedroom window, but 247 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,360 discovers that it's blocked by a dresser. 248 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:56,520 She says the dresser usually sits in the closet. 249 00:15:56,900 --> 00:16:01,659 A dresser had been placed in front of the window, one of the windows in our 250 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:06,999 room, and I tried to push it out of the way, and I was too young to make it 251 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,400 move, but I gave it a go. 252 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:11,639 And shortly after that, my father actually broke through the window and 253 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,900 the dresser out of the way. 254 00:16:13,020 --> 00:16:15,780 Carl Carlson pulls the two girls out of the window. 255 00:16:15,781 --> 00:16:19,669 We had had a pickup truck that was in the driveway, and he put us in the truck 256 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:23,289 and, you know, told us to stay down, not to turn around and look. And shortly 257 00:16:23,290 --> 00:16:25,269 thereafter, he came back with my brother. 258 00:16:25,270 --> 00:16:28,730 The children's mother, Christina Carlson, is still in the house. 259 00:16:29,050 --> 00:16:33,369 She is taking a bath when the fire breaks out. The fire is raging in the 260 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:34,690 just outside the bathroom. 261 00:16:35,270 --> 00:16:36,320 She's trapped. 262 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,359 But as a child, like, I didn't understand what was happening. I knew 263 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,179 fire, but it never really crossed my mind that, you know, oh, my gosh, like, 264 00:16:44,180 --> 00:16:47,440 mom is, she's in there, and she's stuck, and she's going to die. 265 00:16:48,060 --> 00:16:52,299 Erin says her father runs to the bathroom window to try rescuing her 266 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:53,800 the window is boarded shut. 267 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:59,939 The glass pane was previously broken, and Carl temporarily patched it with 268 00:16:59,940 --> 00:17:00,990 plywood. 269 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,640 He walked into the house, and he was kind of kicking at the concrete 270 00:17:06,780 --> 00:17:10,150 And then turned around and came back after, you know, a few minutes. 271 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,390 He was just kind of standing there watching. 272 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,900 Christina Carlson doesn't make it. 273 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,599 She's overwhelmed by smoke and dies in the bathroom. 274 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:23,419 Before emergency crews even reach the cabin, Erin says her father tells the 275 00:17:23,420 --> 00:17:24,740 that their mother is gone. 276 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,619 At the time, I didn't understand. He told us that Mommy had gone to heaven, 277 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:32,680 I didn't understand really what that meant. 278 00:17:35,530 --> 00:17:39,949 Next on American Greed, without their mother around, the kids say Carl focuses 279 00:17:39,950 --> 00:17:41,690 his rage on them. 280 00:17:42,270 --> 00:17:49,149 He would utilize physical punishment as a mental punishment. So he would 281 00:17:49,150 --> 00:17:54,629 have me carry 10 -gallon buckets full of water back and forth from the barn to 282 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:57,110 the house until my body would give out. 283 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,200 It's New Year's Day, 1991, in Central California. 284 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,480 Word of Christina Carlson's tragic death spreads to her family. 285 00:18:24,980 --> 00:18:31,879 I got to my mom's house, went in, told her husband, I need to tell you 286 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,140 something, it's not good. 287 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:36,400 And I looked at her eyes, and I still remember to this day. 288 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,400 I started screaming, and I couldn't even stop. 289 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:44,540 And Colette kept rubbing my back and getting me to... 290 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,810 Calm down. 291 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,979 It's pretty hard to calm down when you're just told your daughter died in 292 00:18:49,980 --> 00:18:55,140 fire. When Collette and her mother arrive in Murphys, they soon find Erin, 293 00:18:55,380 --> 00:18:56,940 Christina's oldest daughter. 294 00:18:57,340 --> 00:19:02,040 And she goes, Hi, Aunt Collette. Did you know Mommy's in heaven with baby Jesus? 295 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:05,920 And her next words were, I heard Mommy calling for Daddy. 296 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,560 And Daddy didn't do anything. 297 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,520 Colette says Carl is casually leaning against the wall. 298 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,080 I said, I want to go see my sister. And he said, you can't. 299 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:18,200 And I said, why not? 300 00:19:18,540 --> 00:19:20,520 And he said, she's a crispy critter. 301 00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:24,980 It's not only diabolically cruel, it's untrue. 302 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:29,480 Fire investigators say the flames never actually made it into the bathroom. 303 00:19:30,820 --> 00:19:34,520 Investigators say Christina dies from smoke inhalation. 304 00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:39,970 The broken window that was nailed shut with plywood sealed Christina's fate. 305 00:19:40,270 --> 00:19:45,330 This here is a good bathroom where Christina was found. 306 00:19:47,910 --> 00:19:54,129 And I realized that this fire that came through the house, it didn't burn up the 307 00:19:54,130 --> 00:19:55,850 bathroom where my sister was. 308 00:19:56,170 --> 00:20:00,849 So this whole she's a crispy critter thing is not resonating even worse at 309 00:20:00,850 --> 00:20:03,350 point. Like, this is, something's wrong. 310 00:20:04,220 --> 00:20:08,599 Investigators say spilled kerosene in the hallway outside the bathroom likely 311 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,840 started the fire. 312 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,919 With the cabin's sparse accommodations, kerosene was needed in the house to keep 313 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,919 it heated. 314 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,060 A kerosene heater, spam heater, sits on the floor. 315 00:20:19,580 --> 00:20:24,039 Supposedly the kerosene had been spilled and maybe the dog. I never have heard 316 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,419 for sure how it ignited. And I knew there was a spill on the carpet. My 317 00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:31,499 had put blankets and towels down like we were kids, right? So we were climbing 318 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:34,539 this blanket mountain and having the time of our lives because it was in the 319 00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:35,620 middle of the hallway. 320 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,050 Investigators ruled the fire an accident. 321 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:44,099 The insurance company gives Carl Carlson a $215 ,000 payout for his wife's 322 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:45,150 death. 323 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:51,130 Just a few days after the incident, Carl is gone. 324 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:58,230 So we did a memorial service that was four days after she had passed away. 325 00:20:59,670 --> 00:21:06,569 And that night, or the next day, Carl and the kids were on a plane 326 00:21:06,570 --> 00:21:07,549 to New York. 327 00:21:07,550 --> 00:21:08,850 The kids are young. 328 00:21:09,410 --> 00:21:11,070 Erin's the oldest at six. 329 00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:15,260 Christina's family doesn't even get a chance to say goodbye to them. 330 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,340 And our side of the family was really shocked by that. 331 00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:23,740 I mean, those are our grandchildren too, okay? 332 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:29,560 So two weeks later, we did actually bury my sister. 333 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:31,860 Carl didn't come back for that. 334 00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:36,600 Investigators in Calaveras County still want to talk to Carl about the fire. 335 00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:41,899 But unfortunately, due to budget limitations, they're unable to fly to 336 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,500 and question Carl further. 337 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:49,379 Cal Fire also dropped the ball. The Cal Fire investigator asked to interview 338 00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:53,279 Carl in New York, and they said there wasn't enough money. Their investigation 339 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,400 hits a dead end and is dropped. 340 00:21:55,940 --> 00:22:00,020 Christina's family is devastated and confused by the sequence of events. 341 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:05,079 He murdered her. There was no doubt in our mind that he did this, and he did it 342 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,280 for the insurance money. 343 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,100 But we had to come to terms with the fact that he got away with it. 344 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,900 Meanwhile, in central New York, Carl Carlson begins rebuilding his life. 345 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,159 Using the insurance money from Christina's death, he purchases a farm 346 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,860 raises Belgian draft horses. 347 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:33,220 He marries a woman named Cindy Best. 348 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,599 As the kids grow up in their new home, old ghosts come back to haunt their 349 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,319 lives. Without their birth mother around, the kids say Carl begins taking 350 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,820 his frustrations on them. 351 00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:48,819 When my father was going to beat us, he would send us all to our rooms, right, 352 00:22:48,820 --> 00:22:50,839 so that there really wouldn't be any witnesses. 353 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:57,019 Unfortunately for Levi, he was often taken to the barn, where nobody would 354 00:22:57,020 --> 00:23:02,659 only see, nobody would hear what was going on. Levi would get beat with 355 00:23:02,660 --> 00:23:04,840 that my father had within reach. 356 00:23:05,260 --> 00:23:11,959 His fist, pipe, shovel, pitchforks, belt, electric cattle 357 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,010 prod. 358 00:23:13,290 --> 00:23:17,050 You name it, it was used as a weapon against my brother. 359 00:23:17,470 --> 00:23:20,610 Erin says she also takes her share of abuse. 360 00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:27,169 So he would tell me that my mother would not be proud of who I was. He would 361 00:23:27,170 --> 00:23:31,330 tell me that I was fat or that I had a big ass. 362 00:23:31,810 --> 00:23:36,010 Katie, for the most part, says she manages to escape her father's wrath. 363 00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:41,269 For me, it was more, again, you know, backing me into a corner, squeezing my 364 00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:47,989 arm, bending my arm, just real, a show of strength without necessarily having 365 00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:49,040 to leave marks. 366 00:23:49,250 --> 00:23:53,829 My father was very careful not to hit us in our faces, although that was not off 367 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:54,689 limits either. 368 00:23:54,690 --> 00:23:59,190 But he was very cautious to not leave overt marks. 369 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:04,090 So at least anywhere that would be visible to the family or the public. 370 00:24:04,460 --> 00:24:08,160 Aaron says their father beats them because they figured out his secret. 371 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,740 Their mother's death was no accident. 372 00:24:10,741 --> 00:24:15,089 Levi and I would talk and put pieces together and be like, okay, well, this 373 00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:18,029 doesn't make sense. Like, do you think this is what happened? Because this is 374 00:24:18,030 --> 00:24:19,249 what I'm pretty sure happened. 375 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:23,809 When they're teenagers, Erin says she and Levi actually confront their father 376 00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:25,070 about the cabin fire. 377 00:24:25,550 --> 00:24:30,089 And his concern was how would the community perceive his own children 378 00:24:30,090 --> 00:24:35,750 questioning, you know, if he murdered, you know, his first wife and our mother. 379 00:24:35,850 --> 00:24:40,250 And that was his big concern, his perception within the community. 380 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:47,490 Next on American Greed, it's deja vu at the Carlson home as fire strikes again. 381 00:24:47,491 --> 00:24:51,369 I'll go to my grave thinking that he was involved in that barn. How many times 382 00:24:51,370 --> 00:24:52,420 can you do it? 383 00:24:52,990 --> 00:24:54,610 And every time he got away with it. 384 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:15,199 In 2002, the Carlson family farm in central New York is the site of another 385 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,740 unexplained tragedy. 386 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:22,679 One summer night, their horse barn catches fire. I remember waking up, so 387 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,979 room in the house had a window that directly faced the barn, and I remember 388 00:25:27,980 --> 00:25:33,580 waking up and seeing the blaze. Three of Carl's prized horses die in the fire, 389 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,860 and the barn is destroyed. 390 00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:37,180 But there's a silver lining for Carl. 391 00:25:37,550 --> 00:25:42,489 He receives a hefty insurance payout. So right before the barn fire, he went to 392 00:25:42,490 --> 00:25:46,109 the insurance agent, upped the insurance on the barn. So I believe it was well 393 00:25:46,110 --> 00:25:48,390 over $100 ,000 on the barn and three horses. 394 00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:53,669 Although Carl benefits from yet another fire and payout, neither the police nor 395 00:25:53,670 --> 00:25:55,730 insurers appear to be suspicious. 396 00:25:56,390 --> 00:26:00,670 And I'm saying how many insurance payouts does somebody need? 397 00:26:00,930 --> 00:26:03,130 For the pattern to me was glaring. 398 00:26:03,530 --> 00:26:07,669 At the time of the barn fire, Katie and her half -brother are the only children 399 00:26:07,670 --> 00:26:08,720 that live at home. 400 00:26:08,910 --> 00:26:14,269 Earlier that year, oldest sister Erin graduates from high school and enlists 401 00:26:14,270 --> 00:26:15,320 the Air Force. 402 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:19,650 Their brother Levi moves out several months earlier at the age of 16. 403 00:26:20,150 --> 00:26:24,709 Levi lives with various relatives and eventually gets married to his high 404 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:25,950 sweetheart, Cassie. 405 00:26:26,350 --> 00:26:31,309 He talked quite frequently about his mom. He loved her so dearly. He had told 406 00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:34,500 several times that he thought his father had killed his mother. 407 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:36,910 The couple eventually have two daughters. 408 00:26:37,270 --> 00:26:40,989 They were his whole world. I think he wanted to be a better dad than what his 409 00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:42,150 dad was to him. 410 00:26:42,151 --> 00:26:46,329 Cassie says Levi keeps in touch with his father for the benefit of his younger 411 00:26:46,330 --> 00:26:47,710 sister and half -brother. 412 00:26:47,711 --> 00:26:51,709 So that's why he always continued to deal with his dad as much as he could 413 00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:54,060 because he wanted to be there for his siblings. 414 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,199 But despite their contentious relationship, Carl offers to do 415 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,280 Levi and his children. 416 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,600 In late 2008, he recommends Levi purchase a life insurance policy. 417 00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:07,880 Carl even offers to get the process started. 418 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:13,919 Carl went to the insurance agent to his office. I believe he paid cash for the 419 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,040 premium, the first premium, which the agent thought was unusual. 420 00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:22,160 The policy is for a whopping $700 ,000. 421 00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:26,790 Remarkably, Carl is named the beneficiary of the policy. 422 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:30,580 How did you think that was a logical way to represent their client? 423 00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:32,870 Was it really in his best interest? 424 00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:39,630 And oh, by the way, you named the father the beneficiary? 425 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:42,770 The guy has two little children he's responsible for. 426 00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:45,470 You didn't name them beneficiary? 427 00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:50,490 17 days later, on November 20th, Carl asks Levi to work on his truck. 428 00:27:51,130 --> 00:27:55,789 But before they go to the farm, Carl tells Levi they need to go to the town 429 00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:58,050 Geneva to handle some paperwork. 430 00:27:58,550 --> 00:28:05,249 But before his son came down, Carl wrote out a will, but he took his son to a 431 00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:06,149 local bank. 432 00:28:06,150 --> 00:28:09,849 Carl thought that by having this document notarized, it would be an 433 00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:15,909 will. The will gave everything to Carl, the father, and it also said Levi does 434 00:28:15,910 --> 00:28:17,350 not want to be on life support. 435 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:21,050 But just why would Levi sign such a will? 436 00:28:21,470 --> 00:28:26,149 I think that Levi was so desperate to repair his relationship with our father 437 00:28:26,150 --> 00:28:33,069 that he, unfortunately, put blind faith in him and believed that 438 00:28:33,070 --> 00:28:37,110 this really was in the best interest of his girls. 439 00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:41,489 A couple of hours later, the father and son are back at the farm to work on the 440 00:28:41,490 --> 00:28:45,450 truck. Levi has no idea what is about to happen. 441 00:28:45,690 --> 00:28:46,740 Ma 'am? 442 00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:03,440 Police investigators say Levi's death appears to be an accident. 443 00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:06,770 Because farm accidents are actually not uncommon here. 444 00:29:07,220 --> 00:29:10,650 Farming is pretty dangerous work and accidents happen all the time. 445 00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:14,879 At this moment, no one else in the family knows about the will or the life 446 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,930 insurance policy. 447 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,060 But suspicions remain. 448 00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:23,219 And so I called my mom, and then I called my dad, and I said, Dad, I don't 449 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:26,300 what he stands to gain from this, but I know he did it. 450 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,999 Next on American Greed, an unexpected phone call exposes Carl's deeds and 451 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,380 investigators close in. You're a money -driven individual, Carl, period. 452 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,700 $700 ,000 is what you would gain from his death. 453 00:29:42,790 --> 00:29:46,290 $200 ,000 is what you had gained from your wife's death in California. 454 00:29:46,841 --> 00:29:48,449 After 455 00:29:48,450 --> 00:30:02,169 Carl 456 00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:07,769 gets his $700 ,000 payout from Levi's insurance policy, he goes on a shopping 457 00:30:07,770 --> 00:30:13,369 spree. Dad had a F -150, and then he had a Ford Ranger. There were 458 00:30:13,370 --> 00:30:18,590 tractors and trailers and duck, lots and lots of duck. 459 00:30:18,890 --> 00:30:24,769 Carl has big plans for his ducks. He buys thousands of them. He invested most 460 00:30:24,770 --> 00:30:28,209 the money in a duck farm. He was going to raise these ducks and sell the duck 461 00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:29,890 meat to New York City restaurants. 462 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:34,790 In the four years after Levi's death, Carl appears to live the good life. 463 00:30:35,370 --> 00:30:39,670 But in 2012, his marriage to Cindy begins to crumble and they split. 464 00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:45,429 In the midst of the divorce drama, in the spring of 2012, the sheriff's office 465 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:49,650 in Seneca County, New York, gets a surprising phone call from Cindy's 466 00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:51,390 who lives in Kentucky. 467 00:30:52,390 --> 00:30:56,429 She asked, did you investigate the death of Levi Carlson? So she said, well, you 468 00:30:56,430 --> 00:30:58,540 might want to look into that a little more. 469 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:04,059 The cousin tells John Clear that Cindy suspects Carl murdered Levi, but is 470 00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:06,100 hesitant about contacting authorities. 471 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:12,159 She says, well, there was a suspicious death back in 1991 in California, and 472 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080 guys really need to look at this closer. 473 00:31:14,620 --> 00:31:19,019 John Clear begins making calls and quickly finds out that the cousin's 474 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:20,070 checks out. 475 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:26,079 His next call is to Cindy Carlson. I said I'm calling you to tell you that 476 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,800 reopened the investigation to the death of your son. 477 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,680 And she said, thank God you called. 478 00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:37,600 Clear says Cindy tells them she is afraid for her life. 479 00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:41,670 She said, I've always thought that maybe he killed, you know, Levi. 480 00:31:41,740 --> 00:31:45,000 In fact, she told us, I've moved out. You know, we're separated. 481 00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:48,990 I'm going to get divorced because I'm afraid he might come after me. 482 00:31:48,991 --> 00:31:51,239 But the sheriff's office needs more proof. 483 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320 They want Cindy to wear a wire. 484 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,459 Cindy agrees and calls Carl. She asks him to meet her at a restaurant in 485 00:31:58,460 --> 00:32:02,600 Waterloo. She tells Carl the meeting is about getting back together. 486 00:32:02,601 --> 00:32:06,659 But we deliberately picked that restaurant because there was no private 487 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:11,259 It's all open tables so that people can overhear. We put some undercover 488 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:14,340 officers in the restaurant with them. 489 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,640 for safety purposes, but also as witnesses. 490 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,199 While Carl never openly admits to killing Levi, investigators say he 491 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,140 just enough for them to take action. 492 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,650 But he did say some very disturbing things. 493 00:32:28,751 --> 00:32:30,479 He 494 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:37,839 said 495 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,420 that he took advantage of the opportunity. 496 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,630 What parent talks about the death of their child as an opportunity? 497 00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:50,959 The day after Thanksgiving, sheriff's officers bring Carl Carlson to the 498 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,010 for questioning. 499 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,860 The interrogation lasts nine and a half hours. 500 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,820 Oh, no, no, no, no. 501 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,400 Okay. You guys don't know what happened that day. The day that my son died. 502 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,840 I found him dead. 503 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:09,700 The truck was on him. 504 00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:15,380 They come in, try doing CPR, and he was already gone. 505 00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:19,740 Claire says Carlson gives them multiple versions of that day's events. 506 00:33:20,860 --> 00:33:23,280 But eventually, he starts to crack. 507 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,700 To kill him. No, I didn't kill him. 508 00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:41,070 You did kill him. 509 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:43,120 You did kill him. I did. 510 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,890 Intentionally. No. 511 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,450 Accidentally. 512 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,599 Yeah, it was an accident. Ultimately, he breaks down and tells me that he caused 513 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:58,399 the truck to fall on his son and then walked out and left him 514 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,450 dying on the floor. 515 00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:01,940 I mean, it was an accident. 516 00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:05,980 I blame myself every day, just like you said. 517 00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:24,559 While Levi was underneath the truck, authorities say Carl Carlson opens the 518 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,020 driver's side door and steps inside the cabin, causing the jack to give. 519 00:34:30,409 --> 00:34:34,569 He did that, the truck fell, and then he decided to walk away, a helpless 520 00:34:34,570 --> 00:34:36,680 victim. That's murder in the second grade. 521 00:34:37,790 --> 00:34:41,409 Next on American Greed, Carl has his day in court. 522 00:34:41,630 --> 00:34:44,449 A new revelation stunned his family. 523 00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:50,790 I want it known that, you know, my kids had a bounty on their head. 524 00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:14,329 In 2012, four years after the death of Levi Carlson, police officially arrest 525 00:35:14,330 --> 00:35:19,030 Carl Carlson and charge him with second degree murder and insurance fraud. 526 00:35:19,770 --> 00:35:23,550 I was definitely in shock when I was told that dad was arrested. 527 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:28,989 I didn't think that it would ever happen. So to hear that he had been 528 00:35:28,990 --> 00:35:35,230 was a relief and like accumulation of, you know, 20 plus years worth of 529 00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:41,049 The family is stunned when they learn the bitter truth about Levi's $700 ,000 530 00:35:41,050 --> 00:35:42,390 insurance policy. 531 00:35:42,690 --> 00:35:48,289 The insurance policy money explains Carl's shopping spree, but ultimately 532 00:35:48,290 --> 00:35:49,450 more questions. 533 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:56,889 If there was that level of money available, why on God's green earth was 534 00:35:56,890 --> 00:36:02,110 struggling so hard working her butt off for those little girls? 535 00:36:02,540 --> 00:36:07,479 She shouldn't have had to. That money should have gotten her a house or a car 536 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,920 put the girls through school. 537 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,520 But that's nothing compared to what Levi's ex -wife learns. 538 00:36:12,820 --> 00:36:17,039 While meeting with police investigators, Cassie discovers that Carl may have 539 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,680 been plotting more schemes. 540 00:36:19,420 --> 00:36:23,559 John Clear met me in the foyer and we walked down to his office and he opened 541 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:29,339 the conversation with, were you aware that there were life insurance policies 542 00:36:29,340 --> 00:36:30,390 your children? 543 00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:34,779 Authorities say Carl took out life insurance policies on Cassie and Levi's 544 00:36:34,780 --> 00:36:38,940 daughters, each worth more than $350 ,000. 545 00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:44,400 Who the hell put that kind of life insurance on a four and six year old? 546 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,650 Why? 547 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:54,299 That's just, that's, that's ludicrous. That's obscene. It amazes me to this day 548 00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:55,440 that you can take. 549 00:36:56,330 --> 00:37:01,849 a $350 ,000 insurance policy on a child without telling the parent that you're 550 00:37:01,850 --> 00:37:02,649 doing it. 551 00:37:02,650 --> 00:37:06,549 You know, he would have got at least $600 ,000, maybe $700 ,000 by killing 552 00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:07,890 two grandkids. 553 00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:11,989 He was sole beneficiary on those two policies, and those two grandkids were 554 00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:13,649 going to be next. He needed the money. 555 00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:19,309 Nearly a year after his arrest, in November 2013, Carl pleads guilty to the 556 00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:20,810 second -degree murder charge. 557 00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:25,490 As part of his plea deal, the insurance fraud charges are dropped. 558 00:37:26,270 --> 00:37:28,850 His sentence is 15 years to life. 559 00:37:29,150 --> 00:37:34,149 He is a person who can kill without emotion, you know, to kill your own son 560 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:37,710 then not have any remorse about it. That's not human. 561 00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:39,080 Well, that's just it. 562 00:37:39,850 --> 00:37:43,669 That's absolutely just it. How do you explain that to a child that their 563 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:46,410 father's life was worthless to his father? 564 00:37:47,410 --> 00:37:51,630 That a human being is expendable for a check. 565 00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,039 After Carl's conviction in New York, prosecutors in Calaveras County reopened 566 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,760 the case of Christina Carlson's death back in 1991. 567 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,360 I was concerned because of the lack of physical evidence. It's been 30 years, 568 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,320 most of the evidence was destroyed. 569 00:38:11,780 --> 00:38:16,419 But while physical evidence is scant, prosecutors do have an ace up their 570 00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:21,339 sleeve. Ken Buskey is a forensic engineer who originally investigated the 571 00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:22,580 back in 1991. 572 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,020 He still has his case files and testifies in court. 573 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,599 Yes, I know how the fire started, and when I worked down on the carpet, I 574 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,139 see where kerosene had been spilled, and it had a lot of time to wick out 575 00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:40,120 through the carpet. While Buskey says the kerosene spill on the carpet was 576 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:44,579 there's evidence that fresh kerosene was poured throughout the cabin immediately 577 00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:46,180 before the fire. 578 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:52,019 Somebody poured kerosene on purpose outside the bathroom door, and then as 579 00:38:52,020 --> 00:38:56,400 were pouring it, they worked northward toward the child's... 580 00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:57,670 the girl's bedroom. 581 00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:03,639 So it was very clear that somebody poured a kerosene immediately prior to 582 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,240 fire, within minutes, very few minutes. 583 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,399 And the only way for that kerosene to have been ignited was somebody to use a 584 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,499 match or a cigarette lighter or something like that to light it. 585 00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:18,400 As for the boarded -up window in the bathroom where Christina Carlson died, 586 00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:22,120 Carl's story and the details don't add up. 587 00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:25,000 Well, there were 17 nails in that piece of plywood. 588 00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:28,970 Only, according to him, only three of which hit wood. 589 00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:31,450 The rest were in sheetrock. 590 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:35,529 It was nailed from the inside out. Anything from the outside could have 591 00:39:35,530 --> 00:39:36,329 that board in. 592 00:39:36,330 --> 00:39:38,810 I had to second guess my entire life. 593 00:39:41,090 --> 00:39:43,710 Sitting in the stand, it was obvious. He did it. 594 00:39:45,830 --> 00:39:50,730 In February 2020, the family finally gets justice for Christina. 595 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,360 A jury finds Carlson guilty of first -degree murder by arson. 596 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,480 I almost jumped up and down on the judge's desk. That's what I felt like 597 00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:05,420 The sentence was life without parole. 598 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:11,779 With the case finally in the rearview mirror, after three grueling decades, 599 00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:15,260 family says they just have one order of business to take care of. 600 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,440 Levi's children still haven't seen a dime of the $700 ,000 insurance money. 601 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,040 Levi's will explicitly states, 602 00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:31,139 That's 603 00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:35,479 what that money was intended for, to help raise those girls, do everything 604 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,820 my brother can no longer do. 605 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:43,039 In addition to the insurance policies taken out on the girls, Carl invested 606 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,340 ,000 in a fixed annuity. 607 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:49,980 He also bought $70 ,000 annuities for each of the granddaughters. 608 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,720 In late 2011 and early 2012, those accounts were liquidated. 609 00:40:56,020 --> 00:41:02,239 What I struggle with is, as power of attorney, having documents on some of 610 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:07,020 accounts and seeing how many opened within a year of Levi's death. 611 00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:10,860 But none of the money ever ended up going to the girl. 612 00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:16,199 The advisor who set up the accounts tells investigators that he advised 613 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,180 the withdrawals, calling it financially irresponsible. 614 00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:24,520 Carl's daughters want to know how much money is left and where it went. 615 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:26,960 I think this is necessary. 616 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:32,180 The financial trail, the motive behind all of this is very important. 617 00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:38,679 There is money still lingering that my brother wanted his children to have, and 618 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,540 rightfully so, they should have it. 619 00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:45,919 As for Carl, with his two life sentences, he will likely never see the 620 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,970 world again. 621 00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:48,980 That man! 622 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,700 He doesn't deserve to live. 623 00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:58,500 Stan, he does not deserve to live. 624 00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:00,200 Say what you want to say. 625 00:42:00,201 --> 00:42:03,499 I don't care. I'm not going to disagree with you. I think he's a jackass and 626 00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:04,619 deserves to die in prison. 627 00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:09,879 I don't care how old he gets. I don't care if he is 80. I think he actually 628 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,799 a great deal of satisfaction out of being that person to control your last 629 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,540 breath. He should never get out. 630 00:42:15,790 --> 00:42:19,130 Because I don't care how old he is, he will hurt somebody else. 631 00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:23,730 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 58563

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