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In this episode of American Greed, El
Chapo's American protégés.
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The twins were probably the largest
cocaine and heroin traffickers Chicago's
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ever seen.
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Peter and Jay Flores, two working class
Chicago brothers who reached the heights
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of the drug trade.
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The twins were directly responsible for
moving $2 billion.
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Earning the trust of the world's most
wanted man, notorious international drug
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lord Joaquin Guzman Loera.
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We were living every drug dealer's
dream.
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Tonight, Peter and Jay Flores are in
hiding. But for the first time on
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television, their wives are ready to
tell the whole story.
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Our husbands were making $10 million a
month in profit for talking LeBron James
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money.
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It's a life of extravagant cars, private
zoos, and gold -plated narco luxury.
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But when the twins end up in the sights
of Uncle Sam, the protégés will make the
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fateful choice to betray their mentor.
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And El Chapo's empire will never be the
same.
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It's crystal clear what would happen to
you and your family if he didn't do what
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he wanted.
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All of a sudden, these men just run in,
and we're down on the floor with AK -47s
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to our heads.
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The sun comes up on an undisclosed
location not far from the U .S.-Mexico
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border. For the locals, it's just
another day in paradise.
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But for one family that crossed the
Sinaloa drug cartel, it's another day in
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hiding.
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Over the lifespan of their drug empire,
our husbands moved 100 tons of cocaine.
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Meet Olivia and Mia Flores.
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They've been in hiding ever since their
husbands, Peter and Jay Flores.
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decided to exit the drug trade and
cooperate with the U .S. investigation
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Joaquin Guzman Loera, a .k .a. El Chapo.
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Chapo was a very serious man.
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However, with our husbands, he treated
them like his sons.
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To this day, the Flores family remains
in danger, their lives subject to
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retribution from freelance killers still
loyal to Chapo.
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But Olivia and Mia have agreed to step
out of the shadows for the first time to
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sit down for an exclusive interview with
American Greed and open up about their
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time as cartel wives married to Peter
and Jay and, for better or worse, to the
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Sinaloa cartel.
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Our husbands were a huge asset to Chapo
Guzman.
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They were American, they spoke English,
and then they spoke Spanish. Our
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husbands were able to maneuver in both
the streets of Chicago all the way up to
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the mountaintops of Sinaloa, and they
were able to navigate both worlds.
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Navigating both worlds is also something
that comes naturally to Olivia and Mia.
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Long before they were cartel wives, they
were daughters to two of Chicago's
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finest.
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I come from a family of law enforcement.
My father's a police officer.
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I also come from a family of law
enforcement. My dad, all my uncles,
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they're all on the Chicago Police Force.
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It's an odd quirk of this storied city
that honest cops and criminals often
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side by side in Chicago's working class
neighborhood.
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And like the Capulets and Montagues,
their children sometimes fall in love.
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When you think about somebody in that
drug world, you have this vision of
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somebody being very aggressive, very
powerful, very vicious.
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They were just really, really different.
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Peter and Jay were very polite. Very
soft -spoken. And they just carried
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themselves so much different that I
didn't understand what they were doing
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the drug trade.
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Peter and Jay's life in the drug trade
begins in Chicago's Mexican -American
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neighborhood called La Villita, or
Little Village.
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That's where they were born in 1981.
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And even in the cradle, the twins had a
head start on the game.
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The twins, for lack of a better way to
describe it, were born into the drug
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trade. The twins' father was a known
narco -trafficker.
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By day, the twins' father, Margarito
Flores, drives a forklift at a local
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factory. But his side hustle is moving
loads of narcotics up from Mexico.
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When the twins were little, they
basically served as human cover loads,
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their father would bring them back and
forth across the border, their car
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or they would sit physically on top of
bales of marijuana that were hidden in
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the car to reduce suspicion as the car
was going back and forth across the
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border. When they were children, they
were...
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the lookouts for their dad.
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So they knew about the drug business
even before, you know, they went to high
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school. In the mid -1990s, the twins'
father moves back to Mexico while Peter
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and Jay stay put in Chicago.
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Using their father's cartel contacts,
the twins begin buying pure, uncut
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from Mexican suppliers like El Chapo.
But unlike their old man, the Flores
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are innovators when it comes to
distribution.
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And their new ideas pay off in a big
way.
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Before the twin, the cartels would use,
like, the Latin kings.
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And the way that they operated, it was
territorial.
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You owned a territory.
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And you guarded your territory with guns
and blood.
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But when the twins came along, they
broke all the norms.
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They tapped all the gangs.
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They made alliances with everybody.
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Unlike previous generations, the twins
begin to break down dividing lines in
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of America's most segregated cities,
doing wholesale business with an
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market of like -minded buyers.
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When it comes to money, they see no
color. It was just green.
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So the twins worked with African
-Americans. They worked with Puerto
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as opposed to just Mexican gangs.
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So they expanded because the twins were
not about territory. They were about
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money. In the end, everybody understood
the language of money.
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They weren't even adults before they
were millionaires. As the twins'
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base grows, so does their need for
cocaine.
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They are now buying upwards of 10 ,000
kilos a month.
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And 2 ,000 miles away, their chief
supplier is starting to take notice.
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From his perch atop the Sinaloa cartel,
Joaquin Guzman Loera is almost a
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mythical figure in the drug trade.
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He was a logistics genius.
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Jack Riley spent years hunting El Chapo
as a senior official at the DEA.
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His ability to move goods across the
border and deliver them in the internal
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part of the United States was unmatched.
El Chapo first popped up on the radar
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in 1993.
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with the discovery of his drug tunnels
running underneath the U .S.-Mexico
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border. The fact of the matter is this
border that you see here this morning is
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under siege by drug traffickers. And at
this point, significant ties to the
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Joaquin Guzman organization have been
established.
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He comes up with these creative ideas
that end up working for him.
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Chapo's game -changing innovations run
the gamut, from fully engineered tunnels
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underneath the border to homemade
submarines that ferry drugs through the
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Pacific.
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It's insane. It's something you've never
seen before.
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And he's seen as untouchable, thanks in
part to his daring escape from a Mexico
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prison in 2001.
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So what he did was he bribed somebody in
the laundry unit to smuggle him out in
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a laundry cart.
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By 2004, he sought to traffic nearly $3
billion worth of narcotics around the
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globe.
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Still, he wants more, more access to U
.S. markets, more money.
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And in the twins, he sees kindred
spirits.
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He was an innovator himself, and he
recognized in the twins that they were
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smart, that they were really an
expanding, just like Chappell. So they
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in common.
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It was effectively a no -brainer
business decision to bring them directly
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fold. They basically were granted access
into the innermost circle of the
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cartel. They received the most favorable
pricing structure that the cartel was
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willing to offer.
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And so from that point on, they became
the largest distribution point in the
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United States for the Sinaloa cartel.
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With his new Chicago connection, El
Chapo tapped the assets that originally
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the city on the map.
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An ideal location and a ready workforce.
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Chicago was really Chapo's hub.
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It's in the middle of the country, the
rails, the interstates. I mean, that's
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why many Fortune 500 companies are
located in Chicago.
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Outside of Mexico, Chicago probably
ranks third or fourth of the largest
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national population.
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So there's tens of thousands of
hardworking Mexicans in Chicago, and
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hide his organization amongst them. So
his organization was well entrenched,
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there's 100 ,000 documented street gang
members in the Chicago area.
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who largely make their living putting
dope on the street. And Chapo used them,
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if you will, as their subcontractors.
The tentacles of the Sinaloa cartel had
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made it directly into the heart of the
United States.
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Working with Chapo's supply and their
own wholesale customers, the twins are
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eventually moving about two tons and
$145 million worth of cocaine a month.
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With about half of it staying in the
Chicago area and the rest pushed on to
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other parts of the country, throughout
the Midwest to Philadelphia, D .C., New
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York, as far north as Canada.
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They opened wholesale markets in places
as far as Vancouver for the Sinaloa
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cartel. And it turned into this massive
empire.
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So for Chapo, it was a gold mine.
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Next on American Greed. When you're
making that type of money, it's just you
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feel like you're invincible.
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The twins are summoned to a mountaintop
in Mexico for a sit down with El Chapo
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and to deal with the devil.
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I mean, you can just imagine that you're
going to pay the price for that life.
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People pay with their lives.
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In 2003, Chicago twins Peter and Jay
Flores are smuggling an unprecedented
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amount of narcotics from Mexico into the
Midwest.
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They flooded the city of Chicago with
drugs, with tons and tons of cocaine.
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They were that tunnel from the St. Louis
cartel to the streets of Chicago in the
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U .S. The brothers are so good at
distribution that the big boss, El
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decides to tap them for an even more
lucrative venture.
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In 2004, he summons the twins to a
meeting in Sinaloa.
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There's a new product on the cartel's
lineup, and the twins are going to
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distribute it.
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Opioids were becoming more and more in
demand in the United States, and the
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cartel was smart enough to realize that
the profit margins on heroin were
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dramatically higher than their profit
margins on cocaine.
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Unlike cocaine, which the Mexican
cartels must import from Colombia,
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be sourced directly from the poppy
fields of Sinaloa.
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The drug itself may be deadlier, but the
economics are simply irresistible.
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Their production cost was hundreds of
dollars, basically, per kilo.
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At that time, they could sell a kilo of
heroin in Chicago for around $55 ,000.
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And the tragic consequence was it was
the perfect storm for the cartel. The
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demand was there, and the profit margin
to them was off the chart.
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It's 8 o 'clock on a Wednesday morning,
a vacant lot on Chicago's west side.
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An undercover camera catches illegal
drug sales already underway.
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Federal agents say these are heroin
deals.
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We began seeing tremendous amounts of
high -grade, cheap heroin hit the
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By 2005, American demand for opioids is
skyrocketing. And the addicted are
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seeking stronger and cheaper stuff
wherever they can find it.
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prescribing and pharmacists won't fill
it. It's expensive on the street. You
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can't steal it from your grandmother's
medicine cabinet all the time. And the
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next thing down the road is obviously
heroin.
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The seller is the woman in the gray
sweatshirt offering $10 bags of heroin
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about a dozen buyers waiting anxiously
in line with cash in hand. So we really
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began to see heroin use go up, overdoses
go up, a different population using
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heroin.
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Virtually every walk of life, every
social economic level, from affluent
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suburbs to the inner city, we began
seeing high school age kids using
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overdosing, and all of those things that
associate with narcotic trafficking,
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violent crime, shootings.
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There were 19 homicides in one weekend,
almost 200 shootings, and all of that,
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in my mind, narcotic related.
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Chapa was calling the shots, sitting on
his mountain in Sinaloa, and he didn't
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care who died.
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While Chapa remains far beyond the reach
of federal authorities in Chicago, his
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mainline into the U .S. does not.
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Peter and Jay Flores have been operating
below the radar for years, but they are
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about to feel the heat.
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The Flores brothers were crucial.
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The twins were probably the largest
cocaine and heroin traffickers Chicago's
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ever seen.
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that became Chapo's number one customer
in the United States.
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When you're making that type of money,
it's just you feel like you're
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invincible. And in reality, you're going
to pay the price for that life. People
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pay with their lives.
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The Flores twins' luck runs out in 2005
when one of their wholesale customers
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gets busted and gives them up to the
feds.
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Peter and Jay are indicted on felony
drug charges and a federal warrant is
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out for their arrest.
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Our husbands were brought up to elude
law enforcement.
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And them going to prison was like their
biggest nightmare.
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The Flores twins are at a crossroads.
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They are looking at a decade behind bars
in the U .S. Or a fresh start in their
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ancestral home south of the border.
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They were in the middle of this drug
conspiracy.
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They knew that they were going to have
to go to prison for 10 years to life.
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And so they decided to move to Mexico
just to avoid going to prison.
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Next on American Greed. We were living
every drug dealer's dream.
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Four kids from the streets of Chicago
living the narco lifestyle in Mexico.
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It's all fun and games and matching
Ferraris until someone gets kidnapped.
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These men just run in and we're down on
the floor with AK -47s to our heads.
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In the summer of 2005, Peter and Jay
Flores, two of the biggest drug
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in Chicago history, are feeling the
heat.
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Our husbands ended up being fugitives of
the United States.
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They were wanted on a drug conspiracy
case, and so they decided to move to
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Mexico just to avoid going to prison.
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Peter and Jay take flight to their
father's village near Guadalajara with
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and Olivia in tow.
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For these American kids from the streets
of Chicago, Mexico is a whole new
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world. And for Olivia, it seemed like a
new lease on life.
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I honestly thought that maybe this was
going to be a change of life.
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I just saw the good in Jay and Pete, and
I really wanted them to just get out of
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the drug trade.
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So when we moved to Mexico, I felt like
this was a way out.
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And instead, in reality, they ended up
just getting sucked deeper into that
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world. Operating from Guadalajara, Peter
and Jay soon find themselves working
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even more closely with El Chapo and his
partners, an affiliated cartel known as
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the Beltran Labor Organization,
trafficking tons and tons of cocaine
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.S. In Mexico, Jay was responsible to
negotiate the different contracts with
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Sinaloa Cartel or the Beltran Labor
Organization.
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They were able to get the drugs on
consignment that they would bring up to
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United States, whether it was through
the bus transportation, whether it was
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through rail cars, whether it was
through tunnels, whether it was on narco
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submarines. Once it made it up to the
United States, then Peter would come in
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and he would handle all of the routes
coming from L .A. to all the cities out
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east. I mean, they had 200 workers in
different cities, and so he had to
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micromanage them and make sure that
there was no mistakes, that there was no
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risk being taken just because it could
cost them their lives.
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While in Mexico, the twins and their
families live a lavish cartel lifestyle
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with luxury penthouse condos, Caribbean
vacations, and more cash than they could
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ever spend.
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We were living every drug dealer's
dream.
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Our husbands were making millions and
millions of dollars. We're talking
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James money.
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They made $10 million a month in profit.
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So we lived a very lavish lifestyle. The
narco culture is very different from
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the U .S. We were able to live out loud.
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Our husbands had a warehouse just full
of foreign cars.
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We had a ranch with dancing horses,
monkeys, tigers.
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I mean, we just lived that lifestyle
that you see on Instagram.
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The freedom to spend money frivolously
is nice, but the Flores family begins to
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see the real and steadily rising cost of
doing business with gangsters and
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crooked Mexican cops.
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Along with that lifestyle brings a lot
of heartache as well.
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And the more money they made, the more
problems they had.
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Every good moment in our family was
always overshadowed by a bad moment.
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And eventually, we were all kidnapped
altogether.
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Things get all too real when a Mexican
federali recognizes Peter as a wanted
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American fugitive.
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When the twins fail to meet the
officer's growing demands for bribes to
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the country, federali snatch the whole
family from their seats in a busy
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nightclub. All of a sudden, these men
just run in with black ski masks and AK
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-47s, and we're down on the floor with
AK -47s in our heads.
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The Flores family is hustled off to a
police station, where the crooked
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threatens them with imminent extradition
to the United States. That is, until
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the kidnapper cops get straightened out
by the real authority.
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All of a sudden, the phone rings and
they received a call from Chapo Guzman.
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In that call, he is like changed his
whole demeanor. And he's like, si,
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yes, whatever you say.
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And when he hung up the phone, the
Mexican federal agent knew that they
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go up against the cartel. And at that
point, I knew how important our husbands
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were to the Sinaloa cartel and the
Beltran labor organization.
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They were making them so much money that
the cartel was not going to allow them
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to just walk away.
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But by 2008, the twins have actually
become too valuable for their own good.
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And when the Sinaloa cartel and the
Beltran Leyva organization suddenly part
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ways, the warring drug lords would
rather kill them than share them.
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63 people have been killed on the
Mexican side this year as drug gangs
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control of key smuggling routes into the
U .S.
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Guadalajara became a bloodbath.
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And all of a sudden they were caught in
the middle of this terrible violence.
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They were given an ultimatum, and that
was to choose which side they were going
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to be on.
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And at that point, you know, they said,
we're not going to be able to choose.
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This is not our war to fight.
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They got themselves in a bind.
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If they bought from Beltran Leyva, Chapo
would kill them and kill their families
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and everybody they know in Mexico. And
the opposite would be true if Beltran
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Leyva knew that they were buying from
Chapo. So really, they were caught.
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So they started feeling the heat in
their own backyard.
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They knew the dynamics of the cartels
and the violence, and they knew that
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were pressing their luck by staying
there.
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And the only way for them to be free of
that was coming back to the U .S.
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In October 2008, the twins' lawyer
reaches out to the DEA and the U .S.
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Attorney's offices in Chicago, asking to
make a deal.
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The thing that was most valuable to us
were recordings that led directly to
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seizures. And so we wanted to basically
just turn them into microphones with
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legs. and be able to marry up those
recordings with direct seizures of drugs
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money. An undercover agent posing as a
twins' associate takes possession of two
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shipments of heroin coming to Chicago
from Sinaloa.
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From there, the brothers set up a ruse
to get El Chapo himself on the phone.
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The twins decided to pretend.
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that the quality of one of those
shipments was poor and the quality of
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shipment was good.
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In reality, that was a lie. The quality
was exactly the same for both loads. But
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that was the ruse that the twins used to
get Chapo on the phone so they could
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talk about this disparity in quality and
negotiate a discount in the price.
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Peter Flores is able to get El Chapo on
secret recordings, directly haggling
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over the price of their heroin deal.
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Pete was able to extract from Chapo the
fact that the heroin, in fact, did come
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directly from him, that there was a
negotiated price of $55 ,000 per kilo,
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Pete used this ruse of the quality
disparity to ask Chapo for a discount of
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,000 per kilo.
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Chapo may be a ruthless drug lord, but
he also appears to have a soft spot for
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his biggest customers.
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He agrees to grant his American protégés
a discount on the merchandise.
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For the first time ever, the U .S.
government has indisputable evidence.
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linking the biggest, most insulated drug
kingpin in the world to an actual
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crime. The recording was immensely
powerful evidence to have Chapo in a
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unguarded setting where he was just
himself.
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They talked very openly about the fact
that this heroin shipment existed, that
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there was a conspiratorial agreement as
to the price, and he was very, very
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successful in extracting everything that
we needed.
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for a nice self -contained prosecution
of Chapo. The twins' cooperation is a
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for the feds, but for the newly pregnant
Flores' wives, it's a terrifying
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reality. During our husband's
cooperation while we were living in
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really, really difficult for us. Olivia
and I were both pregnant. We still had
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our husband's associates by our house
every day.
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You know, the Sinaloa cartel is one of
the biggest, most violent organizations
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in the world.
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We didn't think our family was going to
make it out of there alive.
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Next on American Greed.
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It's crystal clear what would happen to
you and your family if you didn't do
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what he wanted. The Flores brothers find
out the price of betraying El Chapo
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when their father is kidnapped.
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And there was a note that read, tell
those two.
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Just stop talking or we'll send you his
head.
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In November 2008, twin brothers Peter
and Jay Flores, arguably the richest
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American drug traffickers in history,
won out of the drug business and out of
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Mexico, where they've been living as
fugitives from federal U .S. drug
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When they decided to cooperate, our
husbands were given up the only life
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ever known. It was very scary.
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I didn't understand how they were going
to pull this off while we're living in
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Mexico.
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In cooperation with the U .S.
government, they secretly record calls
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drug supplier and leader of the Sinaloa
cartel, Chapo Guzman.
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El Chapo had always been very careful.
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But he trusted the twins so much.
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And they made so much money for the
Sinaloa cartel.
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So they were the only ones that were
able to get El Chapo on tape
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for the DEA.
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In November 2008, the brothers self
-surrendered to the U .S. Marshals in
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Guadalajara and are flown back to the
States.
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This puts their father in a bad place.
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He's old school and not willing to play
ball with U .S. authorities.
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Our father -in -law, he, you know, was
very upset with his sons for deciding to
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cooperate. He was upset that his sons
became
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ratas.
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Rats. Their last memory that they have
of their father was him calling them
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cowards because he didn't believe.
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And anyone cooperating like he taught
them, that was probably the worst thing
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you could possibly ever do.
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Shortly after their return to the
States, Peter and Jay may have reason to
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believe that the man who gave them life
has paid for their decision with his
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own. He was kidnapped in an area in
Mexico that he used to frequent.
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And there was a note that was left on
his car that in Spanish read,
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tell those two to stop talking or we'll
send you his head.
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He disappears and is presumed to have
been murdered.
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It almost seems like he knew what was
going to happen, and I feel like maybe
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felt that he needed to pay for their
decision and what they did because he
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so against it.
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Back in Chicago, the Flores twins sit
down with federal investigators and give
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up everything they know about the
Sinaloa cartel.
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and their own enterprise in the United
States.
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The bread and butter for the Sinaloa
cartel was the use of hidden
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and tractor trailers that drove right
through legal ports of entry.
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The twins then had a vast network of
houses, warehouses, safe houses, all
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throughout Chicago and the Chicago
suburbs.
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The twins broke down every single moving
part of that apparatus, where these
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warehouses were, who the truck drivers
were, who the supervisors of those truck
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drivers were.
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They rented homes in high -class
neighborhoods, something nobody would
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that a million -dollar condo was where
they were counting drug money.
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Once the drugs are transported by
organizational members, they're turned
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street gangs. Street gangs put those
drugs on the street. They take the
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proceeds. They would give the proceeds
back.
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And it's going back to Mexico the same
way the drugs are coming out, in the
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of a car, an 18 -wheeler, a bus.
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And I think that was even harder than
moving the drugs just because, you know,
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we're talking street money. We're
talking 20s and 10s and 5s. I mean,
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times that they would have to fill up,
you know, shipping containers just full
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of money.
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There was just no limit to how they
could bring in the drugs and send back
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the cash.
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The government alleges that during three
years of working with Chapo, the Flores
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twins moved nearly $2 billion in cash
from the U .S. to Mexico.
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The twins' cooperation resulted in an
unprecedented judicial case for the
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federal government.
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The Northern District of Illinois
indictment joined six other U .S.
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with their own charges against El Chapo,
ranging from cocaine and heroin
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smuggling... to racketeering, organized
crime and murder.
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The U .S. government wants him
extradited, but getting him on American
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be more difficult than they could ever
imagine.
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Next on American Greed, catching the
world's most wanted criminal is one
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keeping him quite another.
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The day he escaped, and I couldn't
believe it. How in God's name could this
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happen?
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On a winter's day in Chicago, Peter and
Jay Flores finally face a reckoning for
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their life in the drug trade.
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In other circumstances, their crimes
might have earned them a life sentence.
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But their cooperation in the case
against El Chapo is vital and advised
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reduced term of 14 years.
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When our husbands received a 14 -year
sentence, it was a hard pill to swallow.
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But I did understand that for the crimes
that they committed, they would have
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been sitting in life in prison.
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It was very, very difficult for Olivia
and I to acclimate to a new kind of
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living as well.
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We had to live on our own with our
newborn babies and just try to figure
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to live life without our husbands.
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The final act of cooperation for the
Flores twins, testifying against their
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former drug boss, will come only when El
Chapo is captured.
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And that won't be easy. Here in the
mountains of Sinaloa, federal agents are
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hunting something more than a man.
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They're hunting a legend.
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El Chapo was the Mexican Robin Hood.
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He was adored, idolized. Kids wanted to
be him. Kids wanted to work for him.
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For 13 years, the elusive outlaw has
found cover in these mountains.
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His power and protection deeply rooted
in the region's rocky soil and rugged
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00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:28,579
people. The area is very impoverished.
There's really no opportunity, there's
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00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:31,760
jobs, no economy, except the drug
economy, unfortunately.
445
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,539
That's why most people go into either
growing poppy or marijuana, because the
446
00:32:36,540 --> 00:32:40,699
land lends itself to that, and the
people know that this is one way that
447
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,620
can basically put food on their tables.
448
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:47,480
He really owned everybody around it. And
that was his alarm bell.
449
00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:53,120
Everybody at some point had allegiance
to Chapo or Sinaloa. And because of
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00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,280
he was able to stay a couple steps ahead
of the law.
451
00:32:56,500 --> 00:33:01,539
In a bygone era, the so -called Mexican
Robin Hood might have remained secluded
452
00:33:01,540 --> 00:33:03,440
in his Sherwood forest forever.
453
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,519
But in the digital world, Chapo must
rely on encryptive servers and
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00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,660
messaging to hide his communications.
455
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:17,349
When federal investigators finally
hacked the system, Chapo's days in
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00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:22,829
numbered. Because the cartels believed
that these communication platforms were
457
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:28,929
secure, in a lot of ways they let their
guard down and shared information that
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00:33:28,930 --> 00:33:31,880
allowed U .S. law enforcement to learn
of their whereabouts.
459
00:33:32,590 --> 00:33:35,310
On February 22, 2014,
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00:33:36,010 --> 00:33:40,609
El Chapo's BlackBerry signal is coming
from the resort town of Mazatlan and a
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00:33:40,610 --> 00:33:41,660
condo building.
462
00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:43,130
called the Hotel Miramar.
463
00:33:43,910 --> 00:33:49,109
Mexico sends in their elite force, the
Mexican Marines, to storm the room where
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00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:51,870
they find Guzman, his wife, and twin
daughters.
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00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:56,750
The drug lord runs into the bathroom,
then quietly surrenders.
466
00:33:59,670 --> 00:34:05,309
Chapo is taken here, to Altiplano, to
await trial. It's Mexico's maximum
467
00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:06,390
security prison.
468
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,299
But U .S. authorities are feeling uneasy
about the prison's ability to contain
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00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:12,679
the legendary smuggler.
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00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:16,520
After all, he's already escaped from
prison once before.
471
00:34:16,521 --> 00:34:20,979
Myself and a couple other guys flew down
and we met with the head of the federal
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00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:24,198
police and I told him point blank, this
guy's going to tunnel out.
473
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,179
You have to pay attention to this.
474
00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:29,158
You're going to have to move him. You've
got to keep him on the move.
475
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:30,580
And he essentially said.
476
00:34:30,581 --> 00:34:35,119
See you later, gringo. Tonight, an
international manhunt is underway from
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00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,919
Joaquin Guzman, nicknamed El Chapo. And
for the second time, he just staged a
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00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,679
spectacular escape from prison.
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00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:46,539
Authority say Guzman was last seen on a
security camera around 9 p .m., entering
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00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:51,439
a shower area in his cell at the high
-security Altiplano Prison near Mexico
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00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,179
City. The day he escaped, I'll never
forget, I got the call at 3 in the
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00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,739
and I couldn't believe it. How in God's
name could this happen? From there, they
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00:35:00,740 --> 00:35:05,559
say, he slipped out of camera range
through a 20 -by -20 -inch hole, climbed
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00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,920
about 10 yards down a ladder, then
entered an elaborate tunnel.
485
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:14,059
That tunnel stretched for about a mile.
It surfaced in a half -built house in a
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00:35:14,060 --> 00:35:14,959
farm field.
487
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,019
We couldn't get enough of it. We
couldn't get enough of El Chapo escaping
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00:35:20,020 --> 00:35:22,100
prison. the way he did.
489
00:35:25,060 --> 00:35:31,819
That he can manage even maximum security
prison and just laugh out loud at
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00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:34,760
everybody and say, you know, sayonara.
491
00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:38,880
I got my own little tunnel and I'm out
of here.
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00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:43,859
What's clear when you watch that video
is that the corruption was just
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00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:46,660
completely endemic. It was everywhere.
494
00:35:46,661 --> 00:35:51,449
I mean, it was abundantly clear that the
prison officials absolutely knew it was
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00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:54,969
broadcast all over the world, and it
really did just show that he was
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00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:59,769
untouchable. This time, Mexican
officials are embarrassed all the way to
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00:35:59,770 --> 00:36:04,570
highest levels of government, and they
vow to capture El Chapo once and for
498
00:36:06,590 --> 00:36:13,309
Next on American Greed, Chapo's going
down, but the twins see light at the end
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00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:14,189
of the tunnel.
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00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:17,400
It was absolutely like... The best day
of our lives.
501
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:35,019
Six months after Chapo Guzman's brazen
escape from prison, Mexican and U .S.
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00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:37,020
agents are closing in on the fugitive.
503
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:42,339
Tracking Chapo and his closest
associates to a town called Los Moquis
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00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:43,390
condo complex.
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00:36:43,950 --> 00:36:45,850
where they suspect he might be hiding.
506
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:53,049
And they watched this particular
condominium be fortified, steel door,
507
00:36:53,050 --> 00:36:55,430
going in and out, and they stayed on it.
508
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:58,730
For 60 days, no sign of Chapo.
509
00:36:59,330 --> 00:37:04,489
Then one night, the kingpin feels driven
to leave the security of his hideout to
510
00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:06,790
run a couple of important errands.
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00:37:07,210 --> 00:37:12,749
They went out for tacos and porn movies,
which, hey, there you go, that did him
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00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:17,779
in. I think he eventually felt so
comfortable, so untouchable, that he
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00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:23,159
leave the mountaintop and go and venture
into populated areas because he was so
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00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,930
insulated. And it turned out it was his
biggest mistake.
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00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:36,679
Captured on helmet cam video, the
Marines force their way through the
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00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,780
into the safe house.
517
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,360
A shootout ensues.
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00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,120
A chapo's gone.
519
00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:46,939
Again, he escaped through the tunnel
with his chief of security, but
520
00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:51,380
he came up through a sewer, carjacked
the car, and the car broke down.
521
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,939
And that was enough for the Marines to
catch him. This time, Mexican
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00:37:56,940 --> 00:37:58,860
are not taking any chances.
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00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:03,520
This time, they quickly agreed to
extradite him to the United States.
524
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:11,120
They knew the corruption in Mexico was
so deep, the only jail...
525
00:38:11,530 --> 00:38:15,410
The Chapo could not escape from the U
.S. jail.
526
00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:27,570
The long -awaited trial of El Chapo
Guzman tops news feeds around the world.
527
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:32,669
Inside the courtroom, the U .S.
Attorney's Office brings a case spanning
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00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:38,409
years of alleged criminal activities,
including drug trafficking, firearms
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00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:41,540
charges. and conspiracy to commit
murder.
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00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,619
The evidence at trial that we
introduced, I think, makes clear that
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00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:50,660
was no well -meaning Robin Hood. They
are a criminal enterprise.
532
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:53,800
They are a hyper -violent drug gang.
533
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:59,419
The prosecution lays out an overwhelming
barrage of evidence charging that
534
00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:03,300
Joaquin Guzman is the top boss of the
Sinaloa cartel.
535
00:39:03,850 --> 00:39:08,509
Chapo's defense, however, maintains that
while he may have dabbled in the drug
536
00:39:08,510 --> 00:39:10,150
trade, he is no kingpin.
537
00:39:10,510 --> 00:39:17,089
Our position is that Joaquin was not the
leader. He had been involved in some
538
00:39:17,090 --> 00:39:22,669
activities back in the 80s and that he
had seized that activity back in about
539
00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:28,049
1985. But Chapo's defense is undermined
by the government's roster of 14
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00:39:28,050 --> 00:39:33,110
cooperating witnesses, all of whom once
had close ties to the kingpin.
541
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:39,549
including Chicago twin Peter Flores, who
comes face to face with his former drug
542
00:39:39,550 --> 00:39:45,989
boss. You can tell El Chapo was
surprised, particularly for some people,
543
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:50,289
that he thought they were close to him.
It's like if you trust in your almost
544
00:39:50,290 --> 00:39:54,609
son and then your son is testifying
against you. That happened with the
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00:39:54,610 --> 00:39:58,510
brothers. So there was a lot of people
that he felt betrayed by.
546
00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:07,989
So during his testimony, we put into
evidence one of the recorded
547
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:13,750
between Flores and Chapo in which
they're discussing sending heroin to the
548
00:40:16,990 --> 00:40:21,829
Because Chapo believed that these
communications were completely private,
549
00:40:21,830 --> 00:40:22,880
spoke openly.
550
00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:31,079
They were really valuable pieces of
evidence because it corroborated what
551
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,779
our cooperators were saying, which is
that Chapo was commanding people out in
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00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:39,759
the field to do various things, to send
drugs to the U .S. And so it really
553
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,360
showed that he was the chief. He was the
one at the top.
554
00:40:42,580 --> 00:40:43,630
He was the leader.
555
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:49,580
On February 12, 2019, the federal jury
sides with the prosecution.
556
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,500
Joaquin Guzman Loera is convicted on all
but one minor count.
557
00:40:55,070 --> 00:40:59,150
The verdict brings a sentence of life in
prison plus 30 years.
558
00:41:00,890 --> 00:41:07,389
In December 2020, Peter and Jay Flores,
the Chicago twins who helped put Chapo
559
00:41:07,390 --> 00:41:13,049
away, are released from federal prison
after serving 12 years of their 14 -year
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00:41:13,050 --> 00:41:14,100
sentence.
561
00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:19,849
It was absolutely like the best day of
our lives. I knew that everything, every
562
00:41:19,850 --> 00:41:23,550
obstacle, every tragedy, and every...
563
00:41:24,010 --> 00:41:28,309
painful moments that we've been through
was all worth it. When we drove away, my
564
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:31,680
husband just like whispered to us and he
just said, don't look back.
565
00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:36,870
For El Chapo, there are no such happy
endings and no more escapes.
566
00:41:37,350 --> 00:41:42,629
The toppled kingpin will spend his
remaining days here in 23 -7 solitary
567
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:46,330
confinement at the Supermax lockup in
Florence, Colorado.
568
00:41:47,290 --> 00:41:51,729
For the Department of Justice, the story
does not end with the conviction of El
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00:41:51,730 --> 00:41:52,780
Chapo.
570
00:41:52,940 --> 00:41:57,040
Charges continue to be brought against
other members of the Sinaloa cartel,
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00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:04,079
including Chapo's wife, 31 -year -old
Emma Coronel, arrested in February 2021
572
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,100
and charged with conspiracy to
distribute illegal substances.
573
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:14,100
The investigation is ongoing, but El
Chapo is not going anywhere.
574
00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:17,930
He's sitting where he belongs right now
as far as I'm concerned.
575
00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:21,860
This guy is a generational bad guy.
576
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:29,089
i often think if you were to ask him he
would probably rather have a rival put a
577
00:42:29,090 --> 00:42:34,309
bullet in his head than to be sitting
where he is now and that part makes me
578
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:35,359
feel good
579
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,910
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