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In this episode of American Greed. Hey,
everybody. James the Cash King here.
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Investment advisors James Duncan and
Hendrix Monte Castro claim to have the
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tools to make investors rich.
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We're the 1%. They're the 99%. All the
sheep go to Bank of America.
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All the stallions come work with us.
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But the home purchasing program they
promote leaves investors on the hook for
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more than $100 million of debt.
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That wasn't financial freedom. It was
financial chaos.
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While clients face foreclosure and
bankruptcy, this slick -tongued duo
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through nearly $30 million of their
money.
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That's not bad.
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Visionary entrepreneur James Duncan is a
man with a heart of gold.
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Or so he says.
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I care about what you want in life.
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And I want to talk to you and find out
what you want. And I will run through a
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brick wall to make sure that I do
everything in my power to help you get
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you want.
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More like get what he wants.
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By the time law enforcement catches up
to him in 2008, He has masterminded a
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$125 million investment scheme that
victimizes hundreds of investors.
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But this story begins under the sunny
skies of Southern California in 2003,
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he and a friend named Hendrix Monte
Castro turned this modest two -story
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in Murrieta into a company called
Pacific Wealth Management.
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a name also used by a legitimate company
in San Diego that has nothing to do
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with the scam.
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The plan?
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Convince investors that they can find
hidden treasures that no one else can
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We are a counterintuitive organization.
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We find gold where gold does not exist.
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Through telemarketing, word of mouth,
and seminars, Duncan and Monte Castro
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about the magical returns to be made in
real estate investing.
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So you buy a house for $500 ,000, and
basically a year later it's worth $550
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,000. So there you have it. There's your
10%. But yet, what if you bought that
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property with a 5 % down loan?
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So you took $25 ,000 out of your pocket.
You locked down a $500 ,000 house. Now
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it's worth $550 ,000. I don't know about
you. I just doubled my money.
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What if you got a zero down loan?
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Does the word or term infinite return
ring a bell?
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According to Duncan, it's a system he's
mastered that can break the chains of
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financial uncertainty.
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I have freedom.
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I get to do what I want, when I want to
do it, and how I want to do it.
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Nobody tells me what to do, I can tell
you that.
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I'm pretty happy with how things are
going.
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So, am I an expert?
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I don't know.
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Maybe. He wants to talk that he's not an
expert. He's really not.
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other than working out a way to get
money from people.
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And he's good at that.
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Brent Westwood and Craig Johnson are
investigators for the Riverside County
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District Attorney's Office in Southern
California.
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And according to them, almost every
claim made in these seminars is a gross
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misrepresentation. I will tell you this.
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I own a portfolio of roughly 90, 93
properties.
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Through our investigation, Craig, did we
see that he had 93 properties in his
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name? He didn't have any properties in
his name. Exactly.
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He can, however, identify and facilitate
investment home purchases for his
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clients. He says he'll even find tenants
to rent out the home, or better yet,
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flip it for a nice profit in a forever
-rising real estate market.
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Unfortunately, he doesn't tell his
clients everything.
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Does the word infinite return ring a
bell?
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Remember that $500 ,000 property that
can earn an investor an infinite return?
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There's a little trick he and Monte
Castro play in the middle of the
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transaction. It's how they find gold
where gold does not exist.
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It goes like this.
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Their company finds a home that is
originally appraised at $580 ,000.
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but the selling price has dropped to
$500 ,000.
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They buy the house for their client for
the $500 ,000, but use the original
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appraisal to take out a $580 ,000 loan
in their client's name.
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Almost magically, $80 ,000 has been
conjured out of thin air.
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That money kicks back to Pacific Wealth
Management in what they call a
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concession fee.
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Being $580 ,000 in debt for a $500 ,000
house is a bad start for the client.
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But Duncan and Monte Castro tell
investors that the concession fee will
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to make the mortgage payments until the
house is resold for a profit in the
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booming market.
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Any cash left over will be used as
capital to invest on the client's
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I've been in the business almost 16
years.
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I've sold every type of investment,
tried every type of investment known to
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mankind. Trust me, I've tried it. They
were going to be invested in real
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stock, foreign currency. It was
relatively vague. There was no, there
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lot of specificity to it.
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Between 2004 and 2006, Duncan's company
purchases $118 million
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worth of properties in clients' names,
netting themselves more than $10 million
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in concession fees.
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And almost none of it is invested in
anything but themselves.
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When American Greed returns, Duncan and
Monte Castro take advantage of their
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clients' faith in people and their faith
in God to do the devil's work.
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Unfortunately, there are very crafty,
very evil people out there that are very
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happy to take your money from you.
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From their home base in Murrieta,
California, James Duncan's Pacific
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Management is always looking for a new
way to lure in clients.
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About a month and a half ago, someone in
our company had this really great,
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bright idea that we need to try a
seminar.
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Whose idea was that?
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It was actually my idea.
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We were invited to South Coast Winery
Seminar, and it was interesting.
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Deborah and Herman Weber have been
married 14 years and have three grown
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children through previous marriages.
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When the two go to the seminar, their
interest is piqued. At that point, it
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looked really good. It sounded real
good. And they were giving presentations
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about how wonderful the company is and
how it's making so much money.
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Even before attending the seminar, they
are contacted by a representative of
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Pacific Wealth named Charlie Choi.
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who explains that becoming a client
isn't as easy as just handing over your
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money. There were three rules to become
a core client.
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It was someone who would give three
years to the company, ask no questions,
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give them full financial control.
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So as a core client, basically you were
doing what you were told.
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The consequences for not following the
rules are simple.
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You need to do what we say. If you
don't, you're fired.
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I mean, I don't know how to sugarcoat
it. I mean, that's just the way it is.
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just can't do business with it. That's
okay.
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Go work with Shearson Lehman or Smith
Barney or New York Life or MetLife or
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Snoopy Company or whatever it's called.
I mean, that's fine.
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But you have to do what we say. If we
tell you to do 100 things and you do 99
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and the 100th you don't, you can't do
business with it. The rules make Weber
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nervous, so she decides to look into the
company a bit deeper.
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I did research the name of the company.
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Pacific Wealth Management.
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I found out they were a company based
out of San Diego.
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Unfortunately for Weber, it's just
another game of deception Duncan is
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There was a legitimate Pacific Wealth
Management, and Duncan's Pacific Wealth
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Management had nothing to do with them,
although he was using their name.
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And their credibility.
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When Weber asks about it, she says Choi
does nothing to clarify the distinction.
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I mentioned it to Charlie Trice that I
did investigate your company, and I have
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discovered that you're a good company
out of San Diego.
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And he said yes.
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It lulls the Webers enough to let
Duncan's illegitimate Pacific wealth
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their house.
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Then the Webers hand over the $190 ,000
of equity.
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With housing booming, The refinance is
for $130 ,000 more than the original
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price the Webers bought the house for.
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And the monthly payments increase by $2
,200 a month.
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But according to Duncan's company,
that's where the equity comes in.
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So we're paying our initial payment, our
original payment, and then they pay
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everything on and above because it's
money coming from our investments.
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Fortunately for the Webbers, Duncan's
Pacific Wealth never buys a property in
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the Webbers' name.
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But dozens of investors aren't so lucky.
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For some people, even though on their
own they wouldn't be able to qualify to
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buy even one house, Pacific Wealth would
go out and they would buy them two,
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three, sometimes four houses.
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To get unqualified buyers in the front
door would be a near impossible
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proposition.
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So Duncan's company falsifies loan
applications to get in through the back.
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They sometimes lied about the core
client's income. So even if the core
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was, say, making $80 ,000 a year, they
would lift the income at a much higher
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amount. But more commonly, what they
would do is they would say that the
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also had a brokerage account someplace
and that the brokerage account held
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hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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But even if the lies on the applications
aren't enough to get a loan approved,
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they have a secret weapon, a mortgage
lender named Cindy Kelly. I think it was
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obvious from the evidence we saw, emails
we saw back and forth, that she
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obviously knew that she was pushing
through fraudulent loans.
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Kelly's help gets loans approved, but
she leaves investors high and dry.
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We bought the house in 2000.
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So we've been here 14 years and love
this house.
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Love this house.
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But this is the house that, you know,
we're upside down in. Tucson, Arizona
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natives Clancy and Dale Hahn first hear
about Pacific Wealth Management from
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Cindy Kelly in 2006.
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The Hahn's have been close friends with
Kelly for more than 20 years and have
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seen her develop into a presumably
successful businesswoman.
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She worked hard. I mean, she would work
from morning till night, and she would
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invest and save, and she was very good
at that. So when she started to become
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successful in this, she was excited
about it. Who wouldn't be?
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By the summer of 2006, the Hans have
also done well for themselves.
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We were in this house, affordable house
payment.
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had some savings set aside. And so we
were, financially, we were in good
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situation. For Clancy, it's a near
-perfect scenario in a happy marriage
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on 24 years with two children and living
in her dream home.
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Oh, yeah. I thought, we'll buy this
house and we'll pass it through the
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generations and have that homestead
feeling where this has been in our home
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seven generations, to be that family.
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Cindy Kelly tells them that by investing
with Pacific Wealth Management, they
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could achieve their dream of a secure
future even sooner than they think.
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So we thought, gosh, if we could pay
this house off early, then it's paid for
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and done.
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It's kind of out of the way, and we can
focus on giving to people and helping.
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Helping people is exactly what Duncan
and Monte Castro say they want to do.
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And when the Hans reach out, it's as if
the company is preaching to the choir.
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Both my wife and I are very, very strong
Christians.
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And in our conversations with PAC wealth
people, you know, they came at it with
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that affinity of coming in as Christian
folk.
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It's a hard issue. That's what it's
about.
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That's why we're here. It's a hard
issue. It's basically being a good
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with what God has given me. That's what
it's about.
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Eventually, the horns take the plunge.
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They refinance their home and have faith
that Duncan's Pacific wealth can turn
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the $71 ,000 of equity into the
financial independence they're promised.
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It's our hearts to do for others. And so
when we saw an opportunity to be able
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to give back to our church on various
projects and missions to help.
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even our own family members, to be able
to do that. It wasn't necessarily self
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-serving. I mean, it was really a
thought of, hey, we'd have more
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freedom to do more for others.
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Little do the Hans know, they aren't on
the path to financial freedom, but
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financial enslavement.
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The refinance nearly doubles the Hans'
monthly mortgage payments.
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But the company says they'll wire the
difference into the Hans' bank account
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each month to make the payment.
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And they did.
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They did for the first four months. So
in November, it was wired directly into
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our bank account.
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In December, in January, and then in
February.
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And guess what happens in March?
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When American greed returns.
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You can do this all night.
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Duncan and Monte Castro fleece millions
from investors with their slick tongues.
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Now they want to tap into their minds.
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I think that they were kind of an idea
that they can control people if they use
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their higher powers more effectively,
use their minds more effectively.
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In 2006, in Murrieta, California,
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James Duncan and Hendrix Monte Castro's
investor pool is growing into the
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hundreds, and it's thanks mostly to an
extensive word -of -mouth campaign.
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The way Pacific Wealth worked is that
they brought in a few initial core
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clients. Then those initial core
clients, some of them became what's
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referral partners, and that meant that
they would go out and they would recruit
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their friends.
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Cindy Kelly and Charlie Choi hunt down
potential investors, as does a man named
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Tuan Du, who infiltrates the martial
arts community in San Diego.
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Hendrix Monte Castro's mother, Helen
Pedrino, even gets in the act.
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She was a nurse, so they recruited
through the nursing and the medical
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community.
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She was also Filipino, so they recruited
through the Filipino community.
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Duncan described her. She was like a
machine out there, just recruiting
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everybody she could. But according to
Duncan and Monte Castro, the network
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doesn't just reach out towards the
everyday Joe.
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It also stretches in the opposite
direction towards captains of industry.
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We just got involved recently in an
organization called the Positive Deviant
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Network. Kind of a strange name.
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Positive Deviant Network.
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At times it seems like there were parts
of the truth involved with what they
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were saying, but there were complete
misrepresentations. We know the guys
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started AOL.
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We know Bill Gates' best friend. What's
that guy worth? A hundred billion
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dollars or a couple billion dollars?
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Are any of you curious what Bill Gates
is currently investing in? I'd like to
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know. We have a guy who, he's personal
friends with the trade minister for
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China. Everybody in this room are within
five people of Ben Stiller, of knowing
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Ben Stiller. We're within six people of
knowing what the president of the United
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States is investing in.
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You can do this all night.
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They made it sound like they could be
talking to Colin Powell within a couple
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phone calls, or that they could be
talking to the president within a couple
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phone calls because of the people they
knew through the Positive and Deviant
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Network.
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Just as they trade on the name of the
legitimate Pacific Wealth Management of
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San Diego, Duncan and Monte Castro once
again bend a lawful group's reputation
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to match their devious ends.
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That's how we make money.
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That's why we run circles around Merrill
Lynch.
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That's why we run circles around Lehman
Brothers.
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That's why we could care less what New
York Life does. We don't care what B of
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does. We don't care about what they do.
We're the 1%. They're the 99%. All the
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sheep go to Bank of America.
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All the stallions come work with us.
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Between 2004 and 2007,
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Duncan's Pacific Wealth Management has
bought more than $125 million in
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in their clients' names.
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while pulling in almost $30 million for
themselves out of concession fees and
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investment capital.
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And Duncan has an entire network of
subsidiary companies he can use to
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all that money.
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I think there were probably eight or
nine different shell companies that Mr.
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Duncan owned. They had addresses, but
they did not have any actual operations.
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Despite the network of shell companies,
Duncan intentionally keeps his name from
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being associated with any of them, in a
clear effort to conceal his involvement.
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Even the flagship enterprise has a
figurehead president, a man named
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MacLeod. Some of you may know me as Moe,
so you can call me Moe.
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James Duncan took Maurice MacLeod under
his wing and started sort of teaching
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him how to sell and teaching him how the
business worked.
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I'd like to ask you guys to keep an open
mind because this isn't for everyone.
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And at a certain point, James Duncan
decided to install Maurice McLeod as the
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president of Pacific Wealth Management
because, again, Mr. Duncan wanted to
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his name out of the paperwork.
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Duncan may keep his name clear of the
businesses, but he and Monte Castro's
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hands dig deep inside their coffers.
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In 2004, they spent $1 .7 million on
their own personal expenses.
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In 2005, it was $4 .8 million.
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In 2006, sort of near the peak of the
fraud, they spent almost $10 million.
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They lived in very expensive homes.
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Mr. Duncan, for example, the home he was
in was a little over $3 million.
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He took lavish vacations to Hawaii, to
Malta.
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And then he also, you know, despite the
fact that he told investors that he was
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a good Christian and he was a man of
God, he used a lot of money to go to
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and not only gamble a lot of the money
away, but routinely use prostitutes.
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Mandalay Bay, $1 ,056.
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The same day, Mandalay Bay, $2 ,089.
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$10 ,000 at the Grand Waialea in Hawaii,
over $10 ,000.
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For those of you that have never stayed
at the Grand Waialea, I'm telling you,
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stay at the Grand Waialea. That place is
off the charts.
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Between 2004 and 2007, they spend more
than $21 million of clients' money on
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personal expenses.
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And it's not just the big three getting
the cash.
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They're spreading it around to friends
as well.
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One of them was a lady named Shannon.
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And we eventually figured out who she
was, and it was James Duncan's mistress.
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James Duncan was married, and he had a
mistress that he was paying for.
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She was a stripper and went by the name
The Honey with the Money.
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And her and Duncan, and I think
Montecastro, were trying to set up a
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in Orange County as another way to make
money, and they were using investor
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money to set up the strip club.
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That's what gets us excited.
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We love entrepreneurs.
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We're entrepreneurs, so we love them.
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They never actually opened up, but they
were certainly in the research phase of
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where they could open up. Duncan was
clear. They wanted to do that.
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But a strip club isn't their most
reckless investment.
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That would be the one they make in a
company called BioCybernaut.
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Duncan and Monte Castro spend $195 ,000
of investor money to undergo training
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sessions designed to teach them and
their associates how to control their
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waves.
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I think that there was kind of an idea
that they can control people if they use
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their higher powers more effectively,
use their minds more effectively.
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Duncan and Monte Castro put so much
belief in the company that they want to
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become a part of it.
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They send $550 ,000 of investor money to
the doctor in charge of BioCybernaut,
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thinking the investment is buying a
stake in the company.
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But who's the one playing mind games?
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The doctor took over $500 ,000 and built
a home.
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So they eventually, Duncan and Monte
Castro, eventually asked for the money
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back, and they were told thanks for the
gift and never got the money back.
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Losing money is a feeling their
investors can relate to. They just don't
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yet.
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When American Greed returns, Duncan and
Monte Castro have a surprise gift for
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their clients.
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And it's almost literally not worth the
paper it's printed on.
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Each dinar is like worth .0000006 cents.
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By the summer of 2006, James Duncan has
been robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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And Peter wants his money back.
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Duncan's Pacific Wealth Management has
been trading on the reputation of a
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legitimate company of the same name to
take out more than $100 million in home
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loans in their clients' names that they
promised to cover.
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But they're having trouble making good
on that promise.
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Keep in mind that, you know, I don't
know that on any of the investment home
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purchases, 20 % was put down. I think a
lot of times it was 100 % financing.
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or 90 % financing, so there were just
massive amounts of debt that were still
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outstanding. In their desperation to
keep up with the payments and keep the
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fraud going, they'll pitch anything to
try to raise more money, no matter how
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absurd it may sound.
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We're going to come at you with
investments that don't make sense, and
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going to ask you to trust us because
that's what the 1 % is going to say or
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and the other 99%, your brothers and
your aunts and your uncles and your
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neighbors.
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And the school teachers and your soccer
coach for your kids are all going to
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think you're crazy and are going to go,
what in the world are you doing? And
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you're going to have to believe in us
because we're the 1 % and they're the
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Here's one investment from the summer of
2006 that a few aunts and uncles may
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find crazy.
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They began opening credit card accounts
in people's names or opening lines of
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credit and asking people to draw down.
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either the maximum amount or close to
the maximum amount, and wire that money
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a Duncan -controlled company.
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One of the clients who receives credit
cards is Deborah Weber. They tell her
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other investors that they will pay the
monthly minimum fee on the cards and use
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the rest of the cash as investment
capital.
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It may sound strange, but it all comes
back to the rules of being a core
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Do what we say, no questions asked.
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They told us if we did not get all of
the money, all the cash advance, not
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the cash advance, but I mean call in,
talk to the manager and get every single
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cent you can possibly get, that they
would drop us.
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It's not going to feel good, but it's
going to be the right decision.
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Afraid of losing the $190 ,000 they've
already invested.
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The Webbers eventually wire $40 ,000
more from credit cards registered in
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name to shell companies associated with
James Duncan.
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To many clients, it may feel like
they're under siege.
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So it should be no surprise when the
next investment scheme leads them into
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actual war zone.
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Well, we actually have a contact in
Jordan that will actually go into Iraq
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buy currency.
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We actually just bought some currency,
didn't we?
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Yep. This is what we received. I believe
it was around January 25th.
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We pulled it out. We counted them.
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And it turned out to be Iraqi dinars.
They had made mention off and on during
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that they were investing in foreign
currency.
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You know, but they didn't say, hey,
you're going to be receiving dinars. I
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they never said anything like that.
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In their depreciated state, the package
of dinars the Webbers receive are only
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worth about $6 ,000.
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Still, in seminars, Monte Castro
explains that their projections show
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a $2 ,600 investment in Iraqi dinars
will be worth $800 ,000 in just a few
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years. We have every reason to believe.
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I'm sorry. Can I jump in for just a
minute? So let's just make sure we're
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the same page here. $2 ,600 investment.
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could be worth $800 ,000.
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That's not bad.
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It keeps some investors like the Webers
believing in that pot of gold that
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they've been promised and primes them
for the next big scam Duncan and Monte
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Castro put out there.
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A telemarketing script obtained by the
Riverside District Attorney's Office
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tells the tale.
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Well, the partners came out of the
meeting and announced the most amazing
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I've ever heard. You invest $4 ,000,
you'll earn $30 ,000, or you invest $5
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,000, you will earn $40 ,000.
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For core clients already invested with
their home equity, the script offers
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desperate suggestions on where to find
more money to hand over.
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Some common places to look for hidden
cash.
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Savings and checking. Maybe a savings
account you forgot about. Business
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account. Cash hidden under the bed or
somewhere in the house.
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Look for your coin collections, your
stamp collections, antiques, comic
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inventory from your business.
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So this was pretty bad.
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The Hans don't have stamp collections,
but they do have a little savings.
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And before March 2007, Duncan and Monte
Castro's company is still coming through
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with the monthly payments on their
refinance.
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Their reliability convinces the Hans to
invest $10 ,000 more.
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Them making those mortgage payments for
the first four months certainly lacked
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credibility, which caused me and Clancy
to decide, well, let's invest a little
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more of these short -term investments
with them.
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The Webbers get the same pitch by mail.
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Dear Deborah, if you have not already
heard, we have had extremely exciting
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news. The Webbers take $35 ,000 out of
their 401ks and hand it over to the next
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sure thing.
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They were all pushing this big, hot
deal, you know, this is going to make a
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of money for all of us, you know.
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And unfortunately, we suckered for that
one, too.
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They say a sucker is born every minute.
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James Duncan seems to want to put the
theory to the test.
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When American Greed returns, Pacific
Welk's never -ending pile of debt puts
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end to Duncan's stage show. But the
Internet has an entirely new audience to
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exploit. I've run teams that have
accumulated millions of dollars.
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Not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Millions of dollars. And I can teach you
how to do the same thing.
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What other desperate pitches was Duncan
making?
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Find out at CNBCprime .com slash
American Greed.
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Join the Greed social network.
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Like us on the American Greed Facebook
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We'll be right back.
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By early 2007,
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With loans drying up and payments to
clients coming due, James Duncan sees
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the end of his Pacific wealth management
is near.
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The number of investors who are coming
in can't possibly keep up with the debt
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that is owed. And so, like all Ponzi
schemes, it's basically a house of
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Eventually, it all collapses.
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And so it did.
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Mortgages stopped being paid.
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Credit cards stopped being paid. And
they kind of rolled up their welcome mat
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and shut their doors.
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Once investors can no longer get in
touch with anyone at the company, they
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people who will answer their calls.
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The SEC and the Riverside District
Attorney's Office.
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And it appears that the men in charge
are feeling the heat, literally.
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They had Montecastro, Duncan, and McLeod
and other employees bring their
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laptops and files to Montecastro's home,
and they had a burn party.
448
00:30:51,370 --> 00:30:55,509
Where they started burning files and
burning hard drives, smashing and
449
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:57,250
hard drives. You get rid of evidence.
450
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:02,690
But even out of these ashes, a new
scheme will arise.
451
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:05,470
Hey everybody, James the Cash King here.
452
00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:07,840
Thanks so much for checking out my
website.
453
00:31:07,841 --> 00:31:11,689
He had some videos online where he was
trying to convince people money's just
454
00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:15,449
going to be rolling into you in FedEx
packages every day if you join my James
455
00:31:15,450 --> 00:31:16,500
the Cash King.
456
00:31:23,971 --> 00:31:31,459
He's a very charismatic guy. He's a very
enthusiastic guy. You want to believe
457
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:34,839
what he's saying. And he basically said,
you know, you can be independently
458
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,839
wealthy, you can work from home, you can
spend all day long with your kids and
459
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,490
still have hundreds of thousands of
dollars come in.
460
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:44,100
Let me tell you what I wasn't doing this
morning.
461
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,719
I wasn't rushing to get in my car so I
could get on the freeway stuck in
462
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,800
for an hour to then get to a job that I
didn't like and I didn't want to be at.
463
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,500
Let me tell you what I did at 7 a .m.
instead this morning.
464
00:31:57,860 --> 00:32:01,380
I woke my two younger kids up. I made
them breakfast.
465
00:32:01,780 --> 00:32:06,619
I packed their lunches. I checked their
backpacks, and then I walked them out
466
00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:07,760
the back door to school.
467
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:13,199
After that, I had a leisurely breakfast.
I read the paper, and then I went
468
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,560
upstairs and took a nap for a couple of
hours. I was kind of tired.
469
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,260
Talking people out of their money is
exhausting work, and it's coming to an
470
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:29,359
In February 2008, the SEC has enough
information to file a complaint against
471
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,040
Duncan, Monte Castro, McLeod, and their
company, Pacific Wealth Management.
472
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:40,219
When the financial gurus come in to give
their testimonies, SEC attorney Sarah
473
00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:42,640
Kalin is surprised at what she sees.
474
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,130
During Mr.
475
00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:49,340
Monte Castro's testimony, he wore dim
shorts and...
476
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,700
flip -flops and a t -shirt, and Mr.
Duncan was dressed similarly.
477
00:32:56,180 --> 00:33:00,259
It was hard to believe that they were
holding themselves out as investment
478
00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:03,460
professionals and, you know, financial
geniuses.
479
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,300
Perhaps Duncan and Monte Castro should
take things a bit more seriously.
480
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,860
On July 6, 2009,
481
00:33:10,861 --> 00:33:15,289
A federal court in the Central District
of California grants a summary judgment
482
00:33:15,290 --> 00:33:20,389
in favor of the SEC against Duncan's
Pacific Wealth Management and its
483
00:33:20,390 --> 00:33:21,440
operators.
484
00:33:21,890 --> 00:33:27,309
Duncan is ordered to pay more than $30
million of disgorgement, Monte Castro
485
00:33:27,310 --> 00:33:32,749
just over $28 million, and Maurice
McLeod, the figurehead president, just
486
00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:33,800
half a million.
487
00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:37,570
Four months later...
488
00:33:37,571 --> 00:33:41,529
The Riverside District Attorney's Office
has a plan to execute simultaneous
489
00:33:41,530 --> 00:33:46,070
arrest warrants on criminal charges
against seven of the collaborators.
490
00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:52,489
The three principals and four of their
associates for selling securities
491
00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:53,389
a license.
492
00:33:53,390 --> 00:33:59,130
Cindy Kelly, Tuan Du, Charlie Choi, and
Helen Pedrino.
493
00:33:59,750 --> 00:34:02,490
But the arrests don't go as planned.
494
00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:07,950
When American Greed returns.
495
00:34:08,870 --> 00:34:12,770
We were hoping to get everybody at once,
and it worked well on six of them.
496
00:34:13,350 --> 00:34:14,949
The seventh one was on the run.
497
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:29,449
Early morning, November 19th, 2009.
498
00:34:30,409 --> 00:34:32,250
With assistance from the FBI.
499
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,819
the U .S. Postal Inspection Service, and
local law enforcement, the Riverside
500
00:34:37,820 --> 00:34:41,419
District Attorney's Office, led by
investigators Brent Westwood and Craig
501
00:34:41,420 --> 00:34:46,698
Johnson, are on their way to arrest
James Duncan and six of his associates
502
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:48,940
$125 million fraud.
503
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:55,060
You go out early in the morning, say 7,
8 o 'clock in the morning,
504
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,000
get set up there, knock on the door.
505
00:34:58,001 --> 00:35:02,079
Generally, people are just getting up.
They don't usually start thinking about
506
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,859
running right then or fighting, and you
can take them into custody without
507
00:35:05,860 --> 00:35:06,910
incident.
508
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,479
We were hoping to arrest them all in one
day, and we certainly had a plan to do
509
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,599
that, and I believe we got everybody in
custody that morning except Helen
510
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,279
Padrino. It appears Padrino catches word
of some of the morning arrests, and
511
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,980
instead of returning to work at the
hospital, she makes a run for it.
512
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,889
Eventually... We tracked her down
through using an ATM machine, and it
513
00:35:31,890 --> 00:35:34,810
she was up by LAX, Los Angeles
International Airport.
514
00:35:34,811 --> 00:35:38,569
We had some concern that she was going
to try to leave the country.
515
00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:43,390
Fortunately, Investigator Johnson is
able to bring her in before it's too
516
00:35:43,710 --> 00:35:45,990
I called Helen. Her husband answered.
517
00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:53,369
Bob told Bob that there was a $29
million warrant to arrest Helen and that
518
00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:56,620
would be safer and better for her just
to turn herself in, and she...
519
00:35:56,621 --> 00:36:00,689
agreed to do that. They parked at a gas
station, went to a Burger King, and we
520
00:36:00,690 --> 00:36:04,269
had a local agency up in the Los Angeles
area arrested her and booked her into
521
00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:05,320
jail for it.
522
00:36:10,730 --> 00:36:12,870
Five of the defendants take plea deals.
523
00:36:13,390 --> 00:36:15,370
Kelly and Twandu receive probation.
524
00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:17,710
Choi gets four months jail time.
525
00:36:18,110 --> 00:36:22,050
But Monte Castro and his mother, Helen
Pedrino, fight the charges.
526
00:36:22,051 --> 00:36:26,359
They were very contentious with their
appointed attorneys. So eventually they
527
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,379
fired all their appointed attorneys and
represented themselves in trial, which
528
00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:32,560
was a treat.
529
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,740
All of Monte Castro's and Pedrino's
experience with the law is how to break
530
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,380
not argue it in court.
531
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:44,580
And their inexperience is on full
display from day one.
532
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,080
I think the jurors got a little bit...
533
00:36:47,081 --> 00:36:50,379
frustrated with them. There were times
that the jurors would laugh out loud at
534
00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:54,220
some of their objections or some of
their questions and things like that.
535
00:36:55,180 --> 00:37:00,299
The first witness to face the circus of
the Monte Castro Padrino legal team is
536
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:01,350
Deborah Weber.
537
00:37:01,660 --> 00:37:06,300
Hendricks and Helen were allowed to
cross -examine me.
538
00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:10,120
Kind of like being cross -examined by
Dumb and Dumber.
539
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,320
A trial that the prosecutor expects to
last six weeks.
540
00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:16,740
stretches to more than four months.
541
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,820
It was very long, very long. A lot of
repetitive questions that I was asked.
542
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,440
I'll say it took a lot of patience to
listen to them question me.
543
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:32,339
They would go minutes without asking me
a question, just looking at stuff I
544
00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:34,510
wasn't sure what they were trying to get
at.
545
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,759
The highlight of the trial comes when
Duncan, who has agreed to cooperate with
546
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,000
the prosecution, comes face -to -face
with his old partner in crime.
547
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,279
Duncan was on the stand for eight days,
and 90 % of that was on cross
548
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,780
-examination with Hendricks.
549
00:37:49,781 --> 00:37:53,759
Hendricks kept attacking him and saying,
isn't it true that you thought of this?
550
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,079
And Duncan would say, Hendricks, you and
I sat down together and came up with
551
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,400
that. Remember, in your office, in your
home, we came up with that.
552
00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:07,879
The mother -son team's defense is that
they were just patsies in Duncan's
553
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,169
scheme. Monte Castro tried to say he
didn't know it was a scam. He was a
554
00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:13,949
as well.
555
00:38:13,950 --> 00:38:18,749
Yet he's standing side by side with
James Duncan in these seminars, making
556
00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:24,189
representations that are lies, just
complete fabrications. And his mother is
557
00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:27,709
the seminars with him, standing up,
giving the testimonies and repeating the
558
00:38:27,710 --> 00:38:28,760
lies.
559
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:34,269
After more than two months of trial,
Padrino can see the writing on the wall
560
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:36,210
tries to evade justice yet again.
561
00:38:38,110 --> 00:38:42,429
didn't come to court. And the
information we got from her son,
562
00:38:42,430 --> 00:38:44,070
that she was ill. She was home ill.
563
00:38:44,071 --> 00:38:48,389
And so, you know, when you're a criminal
defendant in trial, you don't just get
564
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:49,349
a call in sick.
565
00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:54,949
No local hospitals will confirm
Pedrino's illness, but deception runs
566
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:57,430
her and her son, and they have a plan.
567
00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:02,250
The judge received a letter from someone
purporting to be a nurse practitioner.
568
00:39:02,251 --> 00:39:05,969
Well, it turns out this nurse
practitioner was Hendricks' wife, who
569
00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:06,959
in Maryland.
570
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,959
And we knew that she was his wife. But I
guess maybe he didn't know we knew
571
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,219
that. Monte Castro's wife is brought in
to testify under oath that Padrino is
572
00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:17,700
too ill to come to court.
573
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,339
But the judge finds her testimony
unreliable and rules that Padrino needs
574
00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:24,540
return to the courtroom.
575
00:39:24,980 --> 00:39:28,300
Monte Castro's wife leaves the stand in
a fit.
576
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:32,320
She was very hostile, very hostile. My
investigator said she...
577
00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:36,030
Gave me the finger if he left the
courtroom, but I didn't see that.
578
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,340
The judge and jury aren't pleased by all
the antics.
579
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:48,039
Monte Castro is found guilty of 304
charges against him and is sentenced to
580
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,980
years and 8 months in prison.
581
00:39:50,420 --> 00:39:54,040
Pedrino is guilty of 54 counts and gets
7 years.
582
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,079
After the district attorney's office
determined that Duncan cooperated fully,
583
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:05,479
is sentenced to 19 years and eight
months, and all defendants combined are
584
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,580
ordered to pay just over $6 million in
restitution.
585
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:15,219
For victims of the fraud like Clancy and
Dale Hawn, they have to come to terms
586
00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:16,540
with a new life.
587
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:21,679
I feel like the little girl who is just
happy all the time until something
588
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,300
happens, and then it's like, ooh, life
is mean.
589
00:40:25,210 --> 00:40:26,260
That's mean.
590
00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:32,309
The Horns invested $71 ,000 of equity
and another $10 ,000 of their savings in
591
00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:33,209
the scheme.
592
00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:37,709
But the heaviest burden on them now is
the huge mortgage payment they have to
593
00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:41,070
make thanks to the refinance Duncan's
company executed.
594
00:40:41,710 --> 00:40:45,210
The prudent decision, they believe,
would be to walk away.
595
00:40:45,610 --> 00:40:46,990
But it isn't that easy.
596
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:48,450
My heart is in this house.
597
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:50,630
No, I definitely don't want to leave.
598
00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:53,710
It would be devastating to leave this
house.
599
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,940
I mean, would we?
600
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,420
You know, maybe.
601
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,730
Maybe.
602
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,500
The Webbers had no choice.
603
00:41:05,501 --> 00:41:09,419
They simply couldn't afford to make the
new payments that they were expecting
604
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:13,060
Duncan's company to cover and had to
walk away from the house.
605
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,960
We were going to retire in that home.
606
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:21,519
We had everything we wanted. It wasn't
anything big. It wasn't lavish in a
607
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,619
moderate neighborhood.
608
00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:23,670
Nothing fancy.
609
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:28,560
But it was the house we wanted to retire
in.
610
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:30,820
And it's gone.
611
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:37,199
Between the equity, the credit card
advances, and other investments, the
612
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,660
turned over more than $230 ,000 to the
fraud.
613
00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:46,420
And all they have to show for it is a
package of nearly worthless Iraqi
614
00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:52,700
Looks good, but it's worth practically
nothing.
615
00:41:53,710 --> 00:41:57,690
Every once in a while, the Webers
receive a restitution check in the mail.
616
00:41:58,070 --> 00:42:00,390
It's an almost laughable pittance.
617
00:42:00,830 --> 00:42:05,530
But attitude is everything when dealing
with a criminal like James Duncan.
618
00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:07,930
This is my big check.
619
00:42:08,250 --> 00:42:09,510
Our big check.
620
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:11,250
$15 .54.
621
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:19,089
I don't care. I seriously don't care how
small they are. I want him to see my
622
00:42:19,090 --> 00:42:22,590
name on his bankroll. He has to pay me.
623
00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:25,510
I don't care if it's 99 cents.
624
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:32,410
So, yeah, my $15 .54 check, love it.
Love it.
625
00:42:32,730 --> 00:42:37,269
Next Thursday, he would steal money from
anyone. He commits the crime, serves
626
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:41,289
his time, but he wanted as much money as
he could get his hands on. Greedy
627
00:42:41,290 --> 00:42:47,050
enough to be episode 100 of American
Greed. Next Thursday, 10 Eastern on
628
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:50,490
The fastest growing cable network in
primetime.
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CNBC.
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