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In this episode of American Greed, John
and Dan Sullivan are more than loving
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brothers. They are partners in business
and crime.
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They were good thieves, big liars and
good thieves.
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Undercover of a home repair business,
the Sullivans prey on victims based on
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race and age.
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They had catchphrases to describe who
they were targeting. They said the
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the better, the older the better.
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To say how they viewed their targets was
odious doesn't even begin to capture
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how morally bankrupt the Sullivans were.
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For 10 years, they construct a trail of
ruin by stealing homes and abandoning
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projects until they get nailed.
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I told him that I don't know how long
it's going to take, but I will never,
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give up. I will get you.
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And later...
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Joseph Greenblatt rips off $31 million
from retirees who think he's flipping
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houses in New York's up -and -coming
neighborhoods.
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You're talking about retirees who don't
have other sources of income.
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In most cases, it wasn't discretionary
income.
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It was income that they really needed.
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When this real estate scam collapses,
the startling truth about Joseph
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Greenblatt's con game is pulled from the
rubble.
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I have not encountered a case besides
this one where investor money is being
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used to pay restitution from a prior
criminal scheme.
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It was unusual.
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In 2002, America's real estate market is
on fire.
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It is the era of the ninja loan, slang
in the mortgage industry for no income,
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no job, no assets, no problem.
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The lenders were not really monitoring
the lending. They would give a loan to
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anybody who had a pulse.
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If you could fog a mirror, you could get
a loan.
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That easy money makes it a good time to
be in the home repair and remodeling
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business.
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John Sullivan runs New Look Home
Services out of a storefront office on
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Chicago's north side.
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His brother Daniel works for him. The
two brothers target primarily older
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African -American homeowners.
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They did mass mailings to targeted zip
codes on the south and west sides of
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Chicago. In addition to that, they did
door -to -door canvassing. They hired
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people to walk door -to -door and leave
flyers for them. Those flyers offered
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senior citizen discounts.
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They offered seasonal discounts.
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But once the Sullivans inspect a
property, discounts go out the window.
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Their bids are often outrageously high.
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They would give an estimate.
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for an exorbitant remodeling job,
knowing that the victim did not have the
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on hand to pay for that.
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But money is easy to come by in the
freewheeling era of the ninja loan.
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The Sullivans basically went into their
homes and tried to find out if they had
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equity in their home. They would get a
blank contract. They would have somebody
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sign a blank contract. Then they would
hook up with a mortgage broker to make a
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loan, and then they would make the
contract in the exact amount that the
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would be.
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That's one of the ways they were able to
maximize their take.
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Occasionally, they come across a
customer with money in the bank. Like
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of this home, 98 -year -old Frances
Stone, a retired schoolteacher with
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living on Chicago's West Side.
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In 2002, she hires new look after the
Sullivans tell Stone her home needs
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hundreds of thousands of dollars worth
of urgent repairs.
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She digs deep into her lifelong savings
and gives the Sullivans more than $200
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,000 to pay for the work.
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When the defendants ultimately stole the
money from her, they literally had to
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hold her hand to affix her signature to
the check to the Sullivans.
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The Cook County state's attorney catches
wind of Sullivan's misdeeds. And in the
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summer of 2003...
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criminal charges are filed against John
Sullivan for financially exploiting
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Frances Stone.
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At the same time, John Sullivan is also
facing civil action.
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The city of Chicago has filed suit
against John and New Look for scamming
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many as 58 homeowners.
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A preliminary injunction banned John
Sullivan and New Look from doing
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in the city.
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So John Sullivan does what any good con
man would do. He reorganizes.
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They moved their company from Chicago,
where it had been historically based, to
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Niles, Illinois, literally 200 feet
across the city of Chicago border. They
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incorporated there under a new name, J
&D Home Services.
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Dan Sullivan is not a part of the city
of Chicago's injunction, so John assumes
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his brother's identity when signing
checks, work orders, and contracts.
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The Sullivans went so far to wipe out
the name New Look Home Services and John
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Sullivan's names from existing contracts
and replacing that with J &D Home
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Services, with Dan Sullivan's name, so
that they could continue doing business
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in the city of Chicago, contrary to that
injunction.
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J &D's new office is busy.
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The Sullivans use telemarketers who make
cold calls from a front office in
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search of new clients.
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They obtained names, addresses, and
phone numbers for people living in
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areas on the south and west sides of
Chicago.
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And the Sullivans have a novel way of
keeping their marketing costs as low as
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possible. The telemarketers that they
hired, according to our investigation,
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came from a lot of halfway houses,
people that were trying to get their
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back together.
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They would promise them cash bonuses.
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Our investigation revealed from sources
that they would pay them actually in
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drugs.
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As soon as they start working for the
Sullivans, the Sullivans are feeding
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drugs, making them dependent, and
teaching them the trade.
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The sales reps are instructed how to
target older African Americans,
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in Chicago's poorest communities on the
south and west sides.
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Clementine Thacker steps right into
their trap.
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They were tricksy. They were good.
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They were really, really good.
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They got a brain, but they're using it
for the wrong reason.
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Thacker has lived in her home on
Chicago's South Side since she and her
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husband bought it in 1953.
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The year President Dwight Eisenhower
moves into the White House.
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And within 10 years, they pay off the
house.
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Now, as a widow, Thacker struggles to
survive on a fixed income.
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To bring in some extra cash, she wants
to rent the second and third floor
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apartments. Boy, this is something else.
What a mess.
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But the apartments need a lot of work.
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She decides to shop around for a
contractor when someone shows up at her
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I got a knock on the door. The one I
shouldn't have been at home.
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At her door is a salesman from J &D Home
Services.
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He sells Thacker on a $63 ,000
renovation of the upstairs apartments.
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A lot of money for a retiree on a fixed
income.
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Thacker wants to take out a personal
loan to cover the renovation.
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But the Sullivan sales rep encourages
her to tap into her home's equity.
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He came back by with a representative
from the bank that said, oh, we can have
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this financed through this bank.
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The loan that I was interested in was
not refinancing my house. It was just
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a regular loan.
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And they said they could do that.
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Thacker eventually signs for a loan,
thinking it's the type of financing she
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originally wanted.
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I thought I was getting a regular loan,
like you go to the bank and get a loan.
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And instead of a loan, they were
refinancing my house.
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Now Thacker is saddled with a 15 -year,
$63 ,000 mortgage she can't afford.
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They were good thieves.
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Big letters and good thieves.
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And it turns out, apartments she can't
rent because J &D never completes the
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work. One of the phrases that the
Sullivans used among themselves and with
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sales reps who were out in the field was
one nail, no jail. And what they meant
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by that is if they did the bare minimum
amount of work, the Sullivans believed
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that they wouldn't go to jail. They may
get sued civilly, but they wouldn't have
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any criminal exposure.
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They were wrong.
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Next, the Sullivans con Clementine
Thacker again to save their skins.
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I said, this doesn't sound right.
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He said, well, see, we're lawyers. We
want to have something to go into court
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with. I said, okay.
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So I wrote it and signed it.
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And a new victim and a new, more
personal strategy.
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I thought it was very strange that a 38
-year -old man was becoming friends with
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an 80 -year -old woman.
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For more than 40 years, Clementine
Thacker has been living in her Chicago
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mortgage -free until she hires J &D Home
Services to renovate her two upstairs
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rental apartment.
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They convinced her to take the equity
out of her home through a loan, and they
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then stole that equity, did very little,
if any, work on rehabbing her home, and
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then left Ms. Thacker with a monthly
loan payment of over $500.
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They start but don't finish a painting
job.
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They try to fix up a bathroom and make a
lame attempt at installing a banister.
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The banister was a joke.
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Any person with common sense would know
you've got to find a stud
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or something that's solid wood to not
pull into a wall. You don't just hit it
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into plaster.
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But the work stops.
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And Thacker wants answers.
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That's when I start calling. When are
the people coming to, you know, do the
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work up there?
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She gets nowhere.
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So Thacker hires a law firm and files a
civil suit against the Sullivans and
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their company J &D.
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As the case progresses, she gets a call.
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Someone claiming to be from her law firm
wants to come by to see her.
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I did have two people come out when they
were from...
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They said they were from the law
offices.
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The two men say they need an affidavit
from Thacker.
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They dictate a statement to her, placing
the blame for the fraudulent home loan
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on others and not the Sullivan.
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Thacker is confused.
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I said, this doesn't sound right.
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He said, well, see, we're lawyers. We
want to have something to go into court
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with. I said, but you don't have to have
that to go into court with, do you?
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Yeah, we need this.
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I said, okay.
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So I wrote it and signed it, you know.
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But the feds say the two men posing as
lawyers are actually John and Dan
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Sullivan. The purpose of dictating that
letter was to shift responsibility from
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the Sullivans to someone else. They were
trying to get away with it. They were
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trying to win their civil suit. And that
was a practice and pattern that the
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Sullivans had done throughout their
various schemes.
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And for John and Dan Sullivan, crime
pays well.
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We were able to trace a substantial
amount of money, hundreds of thousands
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dollars, to a trust that John Sullivan
and Dan Sullivan had set up in the name
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of Joseph John Sullivan.
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They certainly had hundreds of
thousands, if not millions of dollars,
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bank accounts, in trusts, in real estate
that they bought.
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By the looks of the real estate they
own, John and Dan Sullivan appear to be
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just a couple of average middle -class
guys.
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But they are anything but.
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Over the years, they sock away their
earnings and build a financial empire
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the hard work of their chosen victims.
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They had catchphrases to describe who
they were targeting.
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They said, the blacker, the better. The
older, the better.
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To say that their targets and how they
viewed those people was odious, it
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doesn't even begin to capture how
morally bankrupt the Sullivans were.
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would do any means necessary, use anyone
necessary to get what they ultimately
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wanted, which was money. They put in a
lot of work in trying to find those that
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they could exploit and could victimize.
That was their main job. It wasn't
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remodeling. It was trying to find
potential victims.
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In 2003, the Sullivan brothers spot a
new opportunity.
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In the Chicago neighborhood of Norwood
Park, 81 -year -old Frances Spinks is
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living out her golden years in her five
-bedroom century -old home.
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Roxanne Sarno is Spinks' niece and looks
after her Aunt Frances.
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This is Aunt Frances' communion.
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Sarno says her aunt wants to unload a
mobile home she owns in Florida.
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She decided she was going to sell it
because she was getting too old to
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She put an ad in the Norwood Park and
the Chicago paper.
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That's how she became familiar with the
Sullivan brothers.
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John Sullivan responds to Spinks' ad.
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John Sullivan told Anne Francis she was
asking him too much money and that she
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would never get that, the asking price.
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No sale, but they stay in touch.
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John introduces Spinks to his brother
Dan.
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Dan starts coming by the house regularly
to visit Spinks, a cancer survivor who
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is now diabetic and in failing health.
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The front door was always open because
he could not get up to answer the door.
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And Daniel...
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was prominent at the house.
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He would come over and let the dog out
and visit her.
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I thought it was very strange that a 38
-year -old man was becoming friends with
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an 80 -year -old woman and that he was
up to something.
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All the sweet talk helped Sullivan to
discover that Spinks owns her home
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outright. The brothers find it pays to
turn up the charm.
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That was one of their best skills, was
trying to build relationships with their
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potential victims.
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They were just setting them up so they
could take advantage of them later
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these fraudulent practices.
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Daniel Sullivan seizes the opportunity
when Spinks tells him of an ongoing
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dispute she has with the city of
Chicago.
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The sewer system in Norwood Park is not
the best, and when it rains, sometimes
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the basements get flooded.
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Dan Sullivan says he can help her fight
City Hall.
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He just needs Spinks to sign some
papers.
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She told me that she had signed papers.
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And I yelled at her and made her cry.
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And she didn't have a copy of what she
signed.
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So I had no idea what she signed.
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It remains a mystery until February
2004.
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when Frances Spinks takes a turn for the
worse and has to be hospitalized.
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Sarno keeps an eye on her home.
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I was going to the house like usual and
started cleaning the house because I
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wanted to bring her home to die.
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I started seeing mail addressed to
Daniel with Aunt Frances' address.
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I got a sick feeling.
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Fearing the worst, she asks her attorney
to do a title check on the home.
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He called me at work and told me that
Daniel owned the house.
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It turns out what Frances Spinks signed
was a quick claim deed, turning over
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ownership of her home to Daniel
Sullivan.
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But if his plan is to keep the property
transfer a secret until Spinks dies, the
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scheme has failed.
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Sarno knows everything.
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When I went to the hospital, I said, did
you give Daniel Sullivan your house?
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And she said, no.
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I said, are you sure?
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And she said, no.
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I said, he owns your house.
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Do you want me to fight for your house?
And she said, yes.
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I called Daniel on his cell phone and
told him that I knew what you did.
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I don't know how long it's going to take
or how much money, but I will never,
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ever give up.
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I will get you.
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Next on American Greed, the
investigation takes a tragic turn.
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There's a caller on 911 stating that a
14 -year -old boy had been shot in his
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house. And later, will another desperate
call stop John Sullivan for good?
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He called 911 and he wanted a police
officer to shoot him.
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In early 2004, Roxanne Sarno gets an
upsetting phone call from her attorney.
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When I got this phone call, I was
hysterical.
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She learns that Dan Sullivan's name is
recorded on the title of a home
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to her aunt, Frances Spinks.
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I was hurt that somebody did this to my
aunt, and then I was mad.
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And I knew I had to do something. I
could not just sit by.
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and watch this man steal everything my
aunt had.
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Sarno immediately files legal documents
to keep Sullivan from selling her aunt's
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home.
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But Dan Sullivan is one step ahead.
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He's already converting his newly
acquired property into cash.
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He went to World Savings Bank and took a
mortgage for $200 ,000.
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And then he remortgaged it for another
$400 ,000, I think. Then remortgaged it
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third time. He sucked the life out of
the house.
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In June 2004, Frances Spinks died.
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She had to lay there with a respirator
and a feeding tube, dying, knowing that
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her legacy, everything she wanted to
leave her family that she worked hard
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was gone.
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She looked so happy there.
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I think it broke her heart.
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When you think someone's your friend,
and then you find out not only are they
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your friend, but they've taken
everything that you have, it broke her
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Eventually, the house goes into
foreclosure.
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Because she had filed liens on the
property, Sarna was able to reach a
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settlement with the bank, but it doesn't
come close to the home's value.
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The plan was when Aunt Frances passed
away, I would sell the house, fulfill
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will, and all the monies left would be a
college fund. So my great nieces are
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cheated out of their college funds
because this man was greedy and took
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everything she had.
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For nearly 10 years, the Sullivan
brothers have preyed upon the powerless,
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leaving a swath of financial ruin.
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They've been able to avoid jail by
always staying one step ahead of law
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enforcement.
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Each time that they were sued, each time
that a governmental agency brought an
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action against them, they were able to
delay, they were able to postpone, and
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they never went to jail until we came in
and did it.
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In 2006,
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Assistant U .S. Attorney Patrick Pope
begins investigating the Sullivan
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and brings in the U .S. Postal
Inspection Service.
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Federal investigators look closely at
the way J &D is coercing homeowners into
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refinancing their homes, and they
discover one of the secrets to the
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success.
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As anyone who's ever done a mortgage or
a closing knows, you sign an initial,
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numerous documents.
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You don't read them all at the closing.
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Once the Sullivans have the homeowners'
trust, they can get them to sign
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whatever they want.
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That's what happens to Clementine
Thacker.
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In this instance, they had Clementine
Thacker and other homeowners sign
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of direction directing the bank, the
mortgage company, to send the check, the
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equity that came out of that house,
directly to J &D Home Services.
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So the proceeds from Thacker's loan
never even see her bank account.
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Oh, I was feeling like I had S -P -U -P
-I -D written on my forehead.
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It's just how I felt, you know.
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John Sullivan relocates to Surprise,
Arizona, a suburb of Phoenix, as
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investigators are closing in.
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John knew that we were investigating him
and his brother and his company for
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these fraudulent activities, and we were
getting close.
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He divorces his wife but continues to
live with her and their teenage son in
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this house.
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Investigators suspect that the divorce
is a sham.
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designed to protect Sullivan's assets.
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Their life in Arizona seems relatively
quiet until the afternoon of September
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16, 2010.
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There's a caller on 911 stating that a
14 -year -old boy had been shot in his
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house and he needed fire and police
right away.
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The caller is John Sullivan.
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Sullivan's 14 -year -old son has shot
and killed his friend while waving
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a loaded .22 caliber semi -automatic
pistol.
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Local police, including Detective John
Bantz, want to know from Sullivan what
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happened. John was contacted in the
garage when police arrived, and he kept
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making statements. It was an accident.
It was an accident, talking about the
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shooting.
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Police execute a search warrant.
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Our warrant was centered on the shooting
incident.
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We got into the house, and we found
that.
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22 caliber handgun right away. We also
found some marijuana.
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We also found that there were numerous
locked boxes.
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There's a large safe in John Sullivan's
closet that was locked.
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Police execute a second search warrant
and begin to uncover evidence of another
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crime.
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When we opened that safe, my first
impression was, I have bricks of
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bricks of drugs.
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That's what it looked like to me.
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When American Greed returns, see what
Arizona police find in John Sullivan's
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safe. What was the common lie that
Sullivan used to secure bank loans?
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Find out at AmericanGreed .CNBC .com.
We'll be right back.
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In Surprise, Arizona, the tragic
shooting of a teenager has pulled back
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cover on another crime.
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John Sullivan.
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Under investigation in Chicago and
accused of fraud as a stash of marijuana
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a locked safe.
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Police want to know what's inside.
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When we opened that safe, my first
impression was, I have bricks of
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It's only after we started to pull it
out that we realized, no, this was cash.
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And a lot of cash.
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In total, $550 ,000.
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Police are shocked not only at the large
amount of loot, but also the way it is
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contained.
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It had been wrapped in tinfoil and had
dirt on it, as if it at some point had
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been buried in the ground.
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It was a significant amount of money to
discover.
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Our experience has shown us that in
these type of fraud schemes and
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the money usually does not stay around
very long.
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Surprise police seize the cash and begin
to dig through Sullivan's financial
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records. They see that there is more
money hidden, but not in a safe, rather
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an account called the Joseph John
Sullivan Revocable Trust.
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We wrote a warrant and had it granted,
and we ended up seizing just over $1 .1
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million out of this bank account that
was in this trust's name.
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Arizona detectives pieced together a
financial paper trail and traced much of
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the money back to the Sullivan Chicago
victim.
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Just two weeks later, in Chicago, the U
.S. Attorney's Office indicts the
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Sullivans on charges of wire fraud, and
warrants are issued for their arrest.
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John Sullivan, still living in Surprise,
Arizona, becomes unhinged and makes a
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desperate call.
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He called 911 after he learned that
there was an arrest warrant out for him
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said that he wanted to be taken into
custody and he wanted a police officer
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shoot him.
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Sullivan refuses to give his location,
sending Maricopa County Sheriff's
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deputies on a day -long search for him.
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They finally track him down at Tequila
Willie's, a bar in nearby Youngtown,
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Arizona. When authorities arrive, he
denies he's John Sullivan.
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So he went from a period of come and
find me to I'm not who you think I am.
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John Sullivan makes a return trip to
Chicago, this time as an accused felon
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cuffs.
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Dan Sullivan, under surveillance by
federal agents outside his home in
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Chicago, is arrested while pulling out
of his driveway.
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The brothers are jailed and remain there
until their trial.
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Meanwhile, the Sullivans' victims and
their families try to salvage their
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from the wreckage. Now in her mid -80s,
Clementine Thacker is making purses and
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other crafts and selling them at her
church to make enough money to survive.
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During that time when the Sullivans had
stolen her equity, had stolen her
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ability to live her life, frankly, her
brother passed, her sister passed, and
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her nieces and nephews grew up without
her being able to travel to see them,
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as a result of what the Sullivans did to
her.
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And remember the century -old home that
Dan Sullivan stole from Frances Fink?
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On January 18, 2007, the house is
destroyed by fire.
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An investigation confirms it is arson.
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Dan Sullivan makes a brazen attempt to
get a payout from the insurance company.
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But when it is discovered that the fire
was intentionally set, the claim is
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denied. No one has yet to be charged.
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In October 2011, the federal criminal
case against the Sullivans goes to trial
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in downtown Chicago.
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Each man is facing two counts of wire
fraud.
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In their defense, the Sullivans claim
that they completed the work they
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promised.
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Ultimately, we proved overwhelmingly
that they did not. The jury saw through
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their defense, saw through their fraud,
and convicted them.
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On November 9, 2011, the Sullivans are
found guilty of wire fraud.
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They are later sentenced to 14 years in
prison.
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They are also ordered to pay more than
$700 ,000 in restitution to their
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Daniel Sullivan did not respond to our
request for an interview, but in a
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written statement to American Greed from
prison, John Sullivan maintains his
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innocence, writing, No wire fraud was
committed. I might have to live with
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charge forever, but there was no wire
fraud committed by me.
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People are defined by who they are and
what they do.
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And in this case, what the evidence
showed was that the Sullivans were
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serial fraudsters who preyed upon
vulnerable victims with a callous
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to the lives they ruined.
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Next on American Greed, a New York real
estate con man gets caught once.
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The Greenblatt's created a Ponzi scheme,
which was successfully disguised as
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long as the checks were coming.
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Then gets caught again a decade later in
a $31 million scam.
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We went out of town, created a whole
fiction. It was a sophisticated,
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purposeful, very harmful criminal
enterprise.
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Brooklyn, New York, June 1995.
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A local real estate investment company,
Executive Funding, is suddenly shut down
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by the Brooklyn District Attorney.
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Executive Funding's owners, including
Joseph Greenblatt, are arrested.
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It's all over the news.
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The doors to the Greenblatt's Executive
Funding Corporation here in Borough Park
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were gated shut today.
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Joe Greenblatt is accused of swindling
clients and investors of his mortgage
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brokering firm out of millions.
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Greenblatt created a Ponzi scheme, which
was successfully disguised as long as
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the checks were coming. The checks come
from investors who think executive
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funding is financing high interest
mortgages for people who can't get
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conventional loans.
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Mr. Greenblatt promised his investors
that he was going to acquire properties
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make certain mortgages. He took money
and he didn't actually do with it what
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had. advise the investors that he was
going to do.
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Kings County Supreme Court in Brooklyn.
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Joe Greenblatt pleads guilty to 94
counts of grand larceny and other
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But at sentencing, he catches a major
break.
455
00:29:52,670 --> 00:29:57,130
In a plea deal, Joe Greenblatt, facing
up to four and a half years behind bars,
456
00:29:57,410 --> 00:29:59,310
walked. No jail time.
457
00:29:59,690 --> 00:30:04,149
The judge allows him to remain free
under the supervision of the court so he
458
00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:06,490
earn $5 million to pay back his victim.
459
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:13,120
But the judge makes it clear, if he
fails to make restitution, he'll go to
460
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,580
The Brooklyn case shows what you can do
if you have the right attorney.
461
00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:23,899
Benjamin Brofman, who has been the
attorney for a lot of celebrities, he
462
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:30,859
arranged a plea deal that would allow
Greenblatt to take time to raise
463
00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:34,480
money to pay back the investors who were
defrauded.
464
00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:40,589
With a $5 million debt hanging over his
head, Joe Greenblatt, now a convicted
465
00:30:40,590 --> 00:30:45,050
con artist, has to figure out how to
make money, and a lot of it.
466
00:30:46,130 --> 00:30:50,030
So he packs up, moves, and launches a
new company.
467
00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:55,809
Joseph left Brooklyn, crossed the East
River, went across Manhattan, jumped the
468
00:30:55,810 --> 00:31:00,550
Hudson, and went to New Jersey, where he
started Maywood Capital Corp.
469
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,020
Maywood Capital is just another clever
ruse to get the cash Greenblatt needs,
470
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,240
this time from a new set of victims,
retirees in Florida.
471
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,359
Carter Blunden retired to Bradenton,
Florida, so he could enjoy the sunshine
472
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,530
playing music alongside his wife,
Claire.
473
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:24,000
I've played the harmonica for 70 years.
474
00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:25,540
These are all my friends.
475
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,520
I'm a vocalist, big band singer from way
back.
476
00:31:29,550 --> 00:31:34,689
London has always been frugal and
invested his savings when he worked as a
477
00:31:34,690 --> 00:31:39,309
hospital supply salesman. So when an ad
for Maywood Capital appears in the
478
00:31:39,310 --> 00:31:44,950
Bradenton Herald offering 14 %
investment returns, it catches London's
479
00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:47,110
He calls the number in the ad.
480
00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:52,190
Joseph Greenblatt answers and arranges
for the two to meet in Sarasota.
481
00:31:53,260 --> 00:31:58,779
I met him at Yoder's restaurant down in
Sarasota, and we talked, and he told me
482
00:31:58,780 --> 00:32:03,499
how good an investment he had and how
safe it was. And so I thought, well,
483
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:04,359
sounds good.
484
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,440
So I go and invest with him.
485
00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:12,379
Greenblatt tells Blunden and other
investors that he's buying run -down
486
00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:16,900
in need of renovation in New York's
burgeoning neighborhoods like the Bronx,
487
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,820
Queens, Brooklyn, and Harlem.
488
00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:25,359
In late 2001, Blunden withdraws money
from an IRA to make his first investment
489
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,440
with Maywood Capital.
490
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:33,040
He gives Greenblatt $25 ,000 to invest
in a two -story brick duplex in
491
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,379
Just a month later, he ups the ante and
invests another $75 ,000, this time for
492
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:42,000
a commercial property in Queens.
493
00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:45,720
I'd already gotten one big return on an
interest payment.
494
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,020
And so I just said, well, I'll just go
get in deeper. So I did.
495
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,279
Greenblatt's plan is to fix up
properties and flip them for a profit,
496
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,820
cases, rent them out.
497
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,280
Occasionally, investors visit New York
to check on their investments.
498
00:33:02,281 --> 00:33:04,439
Greenblatt drives them around.
499
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,980
He likes to show off his real estate
prowess.
500
00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:12,849
He took them into Harlem, and not only
was he showing them the property that
501
00:33:12,850 --> 00:33:16,669
they were interested in possibly
investing in, he had pointed up the
502
00:33:16,670 --> 00:33:20,629
indicate that it was right down the
street from former President Clinton's
503
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:21,680
office.
504
00:33:22,770 --> 00:33:25,450
Carter Blunden never visits New York.
505
00:33:25,910 --> 00:33:30,570
From 1 ,100 miles away, he's convinced
Greenblatt is doing right by him.
506
00:33:30,810 --> 00:33:32,090
So he dives in deeper.
507
00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:37,369
Within two years, Blunden is invested in
five properties in Harlem, two in
508
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:39,660
Queens, one in the Bronx, and one in
Brooklyn.
509
00:33:39,890 --> 00:33:43,290
Things are going so well, even his wife
Claire wants in.
510
00:33:43,890 --> 00:33:48,210
I had $25 ,000 that I wanted to invest.
511
00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:53,389
And since he was getting such a good
return, I decided that I would invest my
512
00:33:53,390 --> 00:33:54,590
$25 ,000.
513
00:33:55,570 --> 00:33:58,290
For a while, the interest checks keep
coming.
514
00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:03,510
In total, Blunden gets more than $55
,000 in interest payments.
515
00:34:03,511 --> 00:34:06,289
I was getting a monthly return, and it
was good.
516
00:34:06,290 --> 00:34:08,650
Checks were being cashed and everything.
517
00:34:08,870 --> 00:34:10,190
There was no problem at all.
518
00:34:10,429 --> 00:34:15,330
But when those checks start bouncing...
Suddenly, they just turn sour.
519
00:34:15,929 --> 00:34:20,869
It doesn't take long for the Blundens to
figure out Joe Greenblatt is playing
520
00:34:20,870 --> 00:34:21,920
them.
521
00:34:22,090 --> 00:34:26,330
Next on American Greed, bouncing checks
reveal a web of lies.
522
00:34:27,350 --> 00:34:32,309
Once they started bouncing checks, then
the investors were all, where is my
523
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:36,010
money and where is this money? And
that's when it all starts collapsing.
524
00:34:46,510 --> 00:34:53,488
Between 2001 and 2003, Florida retiree
Carter Blunden taps into his IRA to the
525
00:34:53,489 --> 00:34:58,510
tune of $165 ,000 and invests in Maywood
Capital.
526
00:34:59,210 --> 00:35:02,990
It wasn't my life savings, but it was
quite a lot of my savings, yeah.
527
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:04,830
Biggest share of it, yeah.
528
00:35:05,110 --> 00:35:09,070
You're talking about retirees who don't
have other sources of income.
529
00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:12,610
In most cases, it wasn't discretionary
income.
530
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:15,050
It was income that they really needed.
531
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,579
Maywood Capital is run by Joseph
Greenblatt, a convicted Ponzi schemer
532
00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:26,299
been ordered by a Brooklyn, New York
judge to pay back $5 million to his
533
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:27,880
or face jail time.
534
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,180
Carter Blunden and his wife have no idea
about Greenblatt's criminal past.
535
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:38,220
What they do know is Joe Greenblatt is
awfully convincing.
536
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:41,360
He was a very good salesman.
537
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,099
He's a nice -looking fella, and he was
very knowledgeable, seemed very, very up
538
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:49,270
on all type of investments and
everything.
539
00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:53,270
Lots of the investors told us that they
liked Joe. He was always responsive.
540
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,100
He always talked to us.
541
00:35:55,101 --> 00:35:58,979
And I think he probably did, and that
was probably because he had to do that
542
00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:01,720
order to continue to run the scheme.
543
00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:09,069
But by late 2003, Claire and Carter
Blunden realized something is wrong when
544
00:36:09,070 --> 00:36:12,140
monthly checks they had been cashing are
suddenly bouncing.
545
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:14,930
Blunden gets Greenblatt on the phone.
546
00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:19,709
And I asked him what was going on. I
said, I want you to return my money. I
547
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:21,640
don't want to, I want to get out of
this.
548
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:23,730
Blunden isn't alone.
549
00:36:24,670 --> 00:36:27,750
Greenblatt passes bad checks to dozens
of investors.
550
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:33,109
Once they started bouncing checks, then
the investors were all, where is my
551
00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:37,050
money and where is this money? And
that's when it all starts collapsing.
552
00:36:38,350 --> 00:36:42,350
Greenblatt faces a tidal wave of angry
investor calls and letters.
553
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:44,530
He tries to calm the storm.
554
00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:47,530
There were a myriad of excuses.
555
00:36:48,250 --> 00:36:52,969
They would say, well, oh, it's really
just a mistake. It's not that the money
556
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:55,230
isn't there. It's just that we changed
banks.
557
00:36:55,770 --> 00:36:59,350
So it was another way of just buying
more time.
558
00:37:00,430 --> 00:37:04,949
Fed up with the excuses, investors start
calling and writing authorities in New
559
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:06,030
York and New Jersey.
560
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:11,689
A letter from one of those investors in
October of 2003 triggers an
561
00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:15,609
investigation by the New Jersey Attorney
General's Office and the Bureau of
562
00:37:15,610 --> 00:37:16,660
Securities.
563
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:20,090
Soon, a startling discovery is made.
564
00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:24,170
Maywood Capital didn't own all the
properties they claimed.
565
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:29,749
Some of the properties were never
purchased. And in some of the
566
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:34,829
ambassadors actually attended the
closing and thought that the closing had
567
00:37:34,830 --> 00:37:41,189
through with no problems. But in
reality, Maywood was canceling the
568
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:44,380
the purchase of the properties, and they
were never purchased.
569
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,640
As the investigation deepens, the Bureau
uncovers even more deceit.
570
00:37:49,641 --> 00:37:53,899
Greenblatt is using Maywood investor
money to chip away at that $5 million
571
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:57,520
restitution from his 1995 Brooklyn
conviction.
572
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:04,759
I have not encountered a case besides
this one where investor money is being
573
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,060
used to pay restitution from a prior
criminal scheme. It was unusual.
574
00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:16,139
They also discovered more than $9
million in officer loans that are never
575
00:38:16,140 --> 00:38:20,240
back and wild spending on the company's
American Express card.
576
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,299
There were personal expenses charged to
credit cards, such as shopping at Neiman
577
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:27,680
Marcus, Saks, Polo Ralph Lauren.
578
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,680
There were purchases for jewelry.
579
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,380
There were charges for medical expenses.
580
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:37,539
The investors did not know that their
money was being used for their personal
581
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:38,590
expenses.
582
00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:40,760
January 2005.
583
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:46,439
The New Jersey Attorney General's Office
and the Bureau of Securities file a
584
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,059
securities and racketeering suit against
Joseph Greenblatt and other Maywood
585
00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:55,659
associates. The civil suit accuses
Maywood and Greenblatt of stealing more
586
00:38:55,660 --> 00:39:02,259
$42 million from over 100 investors
while diverting over $9 million for
587
00:39:02,260 --> 00:39:03,310
use.
588
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:08,459
Meanwhile, Manhattan District Attorney
Cyrus Vance says his office is watching
589
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:11,260
closely and opens its own criminal
investigation.
590
00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:18,199
I think once we were aware of the acts
in other jurisdictions, certainly they
591
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,840
were helpful in us understanding who he
was, how he'd acted.
592
00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:26,540
By this time, Greenblatt's legal
troubles are exploding.
593
00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:31,130
Greenblatt has been living with an
ultimatum from a Brooklyn judge.
594
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,899
Pay back the $5 million he swindled from
the victims of his 1995 conviction or
595
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:37,950
go to jail.
596
00:39:39,020 --> 00:39:43,899
Greenblatt comes up short, so the judge
orders him to prison for three to nine
597
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:44,950
years.
598
00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:50,200
Joseph Greenblatt and Maywood Capital
file for bankruptcy.
599
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,640
Attorneys John Pereira and John Campo
are brought in to untangle Maywood's
600
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,400
He was fairly cooperative with us.
601
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,840
I think he knew, he understood that the
gig was up.
602
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,020
Kevin Desmarais is a reporter for The
Record in Bergen County, New Jersey.
603
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:17,019
At times it could get tough just
tracking all these things and really
604
00:40:17,020 --> 00:40:18,070
need a spreadsheet.
605
00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:23,359
With the lid about to be blown off of
Maywood Capital, this story becomes big
606
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,140
news. For a time, it becomes his life.
607
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,260
Kevin Desmarais was very diligent.
608
00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:36,309
in his investigation of Joseph
Greenblatt. He did really open up a lot
609
00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:38,170
people's eyes about what was going on.
610
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:43,869
Newspaper reporters rely on photos as
much as the written word to tell their
611
00:40:43,870 --> 00:40:48,809
stories. Kevin DeMurray realizes he
doesn't have a good photo of Greenblatt
612
00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:51,910
an upcoming cover story, so he asks him
for one.
613
00:40:52,460 --> 00:40:57,319
The only picture we could find was a
typical perp walk picture with Joe and
614
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,370
father, Max.
615
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,840
And it was a terrible picture that I
knew we couldn't use.
616
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,299
But I persuaded him, if he would let us
take a picture of him in Harlem, that we
617
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:09,179
wouldn't run the picture with his
father.
618
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:13,380
So he agreed to it. And I just felt so
proud because I had caught the con man.
619
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,490
November 2007,
620
00:41:17,140 --> 00:41:18,190
Manhattan.
621
00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:24,069
A New York County grand jury indicts
Maywood Capital and Joseph Greenblatt on
622
00:41:24,070 --> 00:41:29,770
counts ranging from grand larceny to tax
fraud in a $31 million Ponzi scheme.
623
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:34,850
And we went out of town, created a whole
fiction. It was a sophisticated,
624
00:41:35,170 --> 00:41:39,030
purposeful, very harmful criminal
enterprise.
625
00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:41,070
September 2012.
626
00:41:42,220 --> 00:41:47,359
Five years and over 100 court
appearances later, Joseph Greenblatt
627
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,040
Manhattan Supreme Court to answer those
2 ,007 charges.
628
00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:57,339
Greenblatt pleads guilty to swindling
victims out of $31 million and is later
629
00:41:57,340 --> 00:42:00,220
sentenced to six to 18 years behind
bars.
630
00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:05,619
As for Maywood capital victim Carter
Blunden, he eventually gets back more
631
00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:08,780
$57 ,000 as part of the bankruptcy
proceedings.
632
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,079
That's 52 cents on the dollar recovered
for Blunden and the dozens of other
633
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,130
Maywood victims.
634
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:19,639
We're proud of the fact we were able to
get so much money back for them, but
635
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,900
that's an unusual case in the Ponzi
scheme.
636
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,420
We've gotten about 52 % back.
637
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,720
But some victims aren't that lucky.
638
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:34,960
The one thing that remains with me most
in this is the victims.
639
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:40,860
the elderly retirees who lost their life
savings, and it's all gone.
640
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:43,340
And that's not going to come back.
641
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:50,739
Next, a shady lawyer from the Sunshine
State scams $1 .2 billion on a 10 -year
642
00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:55,680
spree. One investor alone lost $125
million. Florida's largest financial
643
00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:59,800
American Greed scams scoundrels and
suckers. Next on CNBC.
644
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,160
Restaurant Startup premieres Tuesday,
July 8th on CNBC.
645
00:43:04,210 --> 00:43:08,760
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