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In this episode of American Greed, ride
them, cowgirl.
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Rita Cronwell appears to be a humble
small -town civil servant, which is
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a double life as a world champion horse
breeder. It's a deception that comes at
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a huge price.
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Everything that I've learned about
showing horses, you must either be
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independently wealthy or you're stealing
the money.
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When this cunning comptroller diverts
more than $53 million of Dixon,
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money into her horse empire,
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She leaves a city on the verge of
collapse.
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People are going to have to lose their
jobs to balance this budget. For what? A
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divorce? For a trophy?
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Are you kidding me? And later, Staten
Island native Joe Mazzella wants to help
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friends and neighbors with the promise
of using their money to turn distressed
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properties into highly profitable
residential oases.
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Joe's pitches.
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We're just like you going out and having
a beer with a friend. He lures in
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retirees, policemen, firemen, and even
members of the deaf community.
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But this opportunity is a $14 million
scam, where his clients' savings and
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end up as gutted as his junk properties.
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I was calling him every single day.
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Where's my money? Where's my money?
Where's my money? And there was no
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Nothing came.
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In the fall of 2011, as autumn leaves
begin to warm the landscape of the
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picturesque town of Dixon, Illinois, a
cold reality is taking hold.
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The city was drowning in debt. There
were streets that went unpaved. There
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sidewalks that went, you know, unfixed
because the city, as they believed, had
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no money to take care of those sorts of
things.
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Dixon Mayor Jim Burke hears the message
of distress year after year from the
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city official pulling Dixon's purse
strings, Comptroller Rita Cronwell.
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She would present the figures for the
annual budget workshop, which
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showed that it was going to be nip and
tuck because of the financial situation.
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But this fall, Cronwell is taking
vacation time to prepare for a quarter
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exhibition.
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She's hoping to add to her already
extensive collection of trophies as a
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champion show horse breeder and
exhibitor.
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Back in Dixon, however, the woman
filling in for Cronwell goes through the
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city's financials and uncovers a
mysterious bank account under Cronwell's
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control.
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In September alone, she finds more than
$750 ,000 are inexplicably siphoned
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into that strange account from the
city's coffers.
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She alerts the mayor.
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Our city clerk brought a bank statement
to me, and she
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said, I cannot connect this with
anything.
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I started to get sick to my stomach
because I realized this was a big ripoff
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going on.
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Six months later, Mayor Berg sits in
front of the citizens of Dixon and
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from media outlets across the country to
explain what authorities believe may be
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the biggest municipal fraud in U .S.
history.
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First of all, I'd like to thank the FBI
for their comprehensive response to our
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request for a criminal investigation
into this matter.
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This is a traumatic, upsetting event
that the citizens and council are
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experiencing. Traumatic and upsetting
are not words typically used in
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association with Dixon, Illinois.
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U .S. Marshal Jason Waddillo is
dispatched to Dixon just days after
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Burke's press conference in the spring
of 2012.
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The city was the size of 15 ,000, 16
,000 people, good, hardworking farmers,
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lot of farmers in the community. You
know, your typical heartland of America
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city.
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Rita Cronwell has worked in Dixon City
Hall since 1970, beginning as an eager
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high schooler and eventually making her
way up to city comptroller in 1983.
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My name is Dan Langloss. I'm the chief
of police in the city of Dixon. By the
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time Dan Langloss becomes the Dixon
chief of police in 2008, Cronwell has
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the trusted guardian of the city's
finances for 25 years.
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She was very highly regarded, very well
respected.
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If you had a question, go to Rita. If
you need something, go to Rita. And
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everybody always looked at her that she
could fix any problem or just take care
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of anything that needed to be done.
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If Cronwell's dependability is exhibited
in her work, her passion is on display
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in another arena, showing quarter horses
at exhibitions nationwide.
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Marsha Freeman breaks and trains horses
near Cronwell's home in Illinois and
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remembers Cronwell's early years in the
industry in the mid-'80s.
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At that point, I think she was just like
the regular horse person showing horses
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as a hobby, which would involve moving
in on a Thursday, showing horses Friday,
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Saturday, Sunday, and returning back
home and going back to a normal job and
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work week.
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But Cronwell takes this more seriously
than a weekend hobby. In 1990, she
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her own horse breeding business named R
.C. Quarter Horses, LLC.
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There's only one problem.
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Showing horses is an expensive hobby, so
you're...
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You're going to need to have some
startup cash to do it correctly.
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With her humble background, Cronwell
doesn't have enough money to support the
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boarding, medical care, transportation,
and trainers necessary for a world
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-class breeding program.
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But as Dixon's comptroller, large
amounts of cash pass through her hands
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day. According to Assistant U .S.
Attorney Joe Peterson, on December 18,
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Cronwell crosses a line that will change
her life and the city of Dixon forever.
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She opened a secret bank account in the
city's name, and only she has control of
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it. She named it the RSCDA account,
which stood for some acronym involving a
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sewer, reserve sewer account, but it
really was not a legitimate city account
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all. Because Cronwell has full authority
to write checks on the city's behalf,
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it's easy for her to filter government
money into the new account.
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She was creating fictitious invoices,
purportedly representing different
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projects that were going on in the city
that, in fact, never were going on. And
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then she would pay the bills. She would
pay the invoices and then deposit those
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checks into the secret bank account.
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As the FBI will come to learn, with no
one else's eyes on the secret account,
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Cronwell is free to divert the city's
money into her personal business.
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And she does.
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It has become known as the single
largest municipal fraud in U .S.
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When American Greed returns, Rita
Cronwell uses Dixon's money to become a
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beater. But the city of Dixon is just
beaten down.
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It becomes a free -for -all for her. She
was aware of the infrastructure project
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that needed to be performed in the city.
But again, feeding her ego seemed to be
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more important.
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By 2010, small -town comptroller Rita
Cronwell has developed an unbridled
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passion for victory in the world of show
horses.
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Mike Jennings is a veteran horse
auctioneer who has also been showing and
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judging horse competitions for more than
30 years.
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And even he is impressed as he watches
Cronwell turn a one -horse stable into
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American quarter -horse dynasty.
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Over the last...
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I'd say 10 to 12 years, she had elevated
herself to be in the very top echelon
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of breeders and exhibitors. If she is
not the leading owner or breeder of
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champions, she would be very close.
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Cronwell comes to own more than 400
horses, with more than 50 of them
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world champions in their class.
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And she isn't shy about flaunting her
success in front of other horse
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exhibitors.
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When she would show up, it was this
entourage of tractors and trailers, you
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know, 18 -wheeler type rigs. Rita
Cronwell, in her mind, became a brand.
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And it was that brand that was built
over time that was feeding her ego.
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And the only way it was being fed in
this case was by siphoning money off
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the city of Dixon.
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Because with prize money typically
coming in at $5 ,000 to $10 ,000,
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doesn't equal riches.
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It's expensive to get to the level that
she was at, and she had horses in over
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15 states where she would pay people to
board the horses, train them, feed them,
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and that cost a lot of money.
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Everything that I've learned about
showing horses, you must either be
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independently wealthy or you're stealing
the money.
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And Rita Cronwell is not independently
wealthy.
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While Dixon citizens believe that
Cronwell's world champion horse business
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for itself in prize money and breeding
fees, in reality, it's all being funded
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by the city coffer. And each year, her
theft grows more outrageous.
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This sort of depicts a graph of what the
total loss was, what she was stealing.
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She started out in 1991.
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She stole $181 ,000.
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As it progressed in 1999, she had hit
the million -dollar mark. And then two
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years later, she's into the $2 million
mark.
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It escalates to over $5 million by 2008.
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It all depicts the total loss of more
than $53 million.
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It's a simple fraud that Wadillo says
points to a systemic failure of Dixon's
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government. There were no checks and
balances.
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There was no separation of duties, no
segregation of duties.
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She did it all.
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With that power, Cronwell has the city's
checkbook to use as she pleases.
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When you have part -time city
administrators, the mayor's part -time,
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commissioners are part -time, you know,
they're trying to earn a living to
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provide for their families doing
something other than running the city.
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simply weren't asking enough questions
or perhaps the right questions.
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In the meantime, Cronwell is stealing
more money under Dixon's nose every
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And every year, Dixon is forced into
painful decisions to stay afloat.
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In April of 2009, they needed to cut $38
,000 that was intended to be used to
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purchase ambulance equipment.
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While at the same time, in 2009, Rita
Cronwell stole almost $5 .6 million from
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the city of Dixon.
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Year after year, it's more of the same.
Less money for Dixon's basic needs and
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more money for Rita Cronwell's world
champion lifestyle.
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When she purchased several motorhomes
during the course of the scheme, the
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one she purchased for over $2 million.
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She also purchased several homes.
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She purchased land. She purchased a
large number of vehicles. She purchased
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jewelry for herself and others.
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Hundreds and hundreds of pieces of
jewelry. A lot of it custom -made, as
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see, with her name on it, with the RC,
again, her brand. Good Ride was the
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theme of that necklace.
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And back on her ranch, her extravagant
trophy room is a shrine to all her
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accomplishments, paid in full by Dixon
taxpayers.
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The room, it reeks of wealth.
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She had custom -made bar stools that had
a horse theme.
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The sofas in the trophy room were of a
horse theme. Again, it was clear where
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she was spending a lot of the money that
she was stealing.
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But to residents of Dixon, the newfound
wealth is a perfectly reasonable
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explanation.
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Well, there would be stories like, you
know, floating around town that, you
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know, that she'd sold a horse for, say,
$250 ,000.
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She had people coming from all over the
United States and even some people from
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Europe that came for this auction. So
she did a great job of cultivating this
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image of having a very, very profitable
and successful horse business.
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Besides, Cornwell works hard to keep her
modest down -home image in Dixon
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separate from the celebrity image. she
cultivates on the exhibition circuits.
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It is my understanding that she really
didn't show a lot of glamour in the
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She wasn't wearing a lot of expensive
jewelry.
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You know, wasn't wearing a lot of
expensive clothing.
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Now, the clothing that she bought to
take to the horse shows, if you're in
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industry, you understand that it is
rather expensive.
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It's another way that Cronwell keeps her
double life a secret.
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We've had a lot of people come into our
industry and spend a lot of money.
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Sometimes you find out where their money
came from and sometimes you don't. But
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mostly we're glad they're in our
business, you know, for a while.
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But she won't be an industry leader much
longer.
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When American Greed returns on her quest
for fame as a horse breeder, Rita
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Cronwell lets go of the reins at work
and takes a nasty fall.
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The fraud was caught because, again, as
is often the case with fraudsters, it
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occurs when they go on vacation.
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By the fall of 2011, Dixon Comptroller
Rita Cronwell's message of austerity has
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become agonizingly repetitive.
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Each year at the budget hearings, you
know, she would show up, certainly in
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latter years, as came out as evidence in
this case, she would show up with
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booklets where she had characters of,
you know, someone drowning or, you know,
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pair of scissors.
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And her message was cut, cut, cut.
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Eventually, the heads of the city's
various departments learned to simply
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asking for funding.
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Again, not to be critical of the form of
government, but when you have part
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-time city administrators, the mayor's
part -time, the city commissioners are
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part -time, they were relying very
heavily, understandably, as many city
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officials do, on their annual audits
that were occurring, or perhaps not
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occurring. 21 annual audits and no
warnings of any red flags.
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Nothing. I'd read these audits over
every year, and there was never any
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indication that...
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that they found anything that we ought
to be taking a look at. Another piece of
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the puzzle is that evidence came out
during the civil litigation that the
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auditor had a personal interest in Rita
Cronwell. She had had him over for
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dinner. He had asked her out on dates.
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So perhaps his eyes were a little glazed
over in looking at the numbers.
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Could the entire town have been seduced
by Cronwell's charms?
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How could they have not known $50
million were missing from the town's
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To put this in context, when the city
was a smaller population, a smaller
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government, when the large box stores
didn't exist in the community,
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when the Illinois toll road wasn't going
through the county, the budget wasn't
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as large.
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And so as the city grew over time...
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Understandably, there was more revenue
being generated from taxes, from real
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property, and the like. As that grew,
the city wasn't necessarily missing it
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because they didn't know it existed.
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In October 2011, Cronwell looks to add
yet more trophies to her collection from
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one of the biggest single -breed horse
shows in the world in Columbus, Ohio.
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But it comes at a huge cost.
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While filling in for Cronwell, a city
clerk uncovers Cronwell's phony sewer
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account that has eluded city hall's eyes
for more than 20 years.
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One of the statements from the RSCDA
account came across her desk. She looked
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it, didn't recognize it as a city
account, and then expressed those
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the mayor, and then he forwarded that
information to the FBI.
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For Mayor Burke, it's the beginning of
six months of nearly unbearable anxiety
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as he sits back and watches Cronwell
continue to steal millions while the FBI
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conducts its investigation.
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Once I knew what her method of operation
was, we were able to see that she was
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taking these funds.
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And I even told the FBI agent once, I
said, you know, if we don't find this
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pretty quick, there won't be any money
left at the rate that she's going.
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Finally, in the spring of 2012, Mayor
Burke is told that the FBI is ready to
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make an arrest.
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Early in the morning on April 17th,
Cronwell walks into Mayor Burke's office
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finds three FBI agents waiting.
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I said, these three gentlemen would like
to talk with you. She said, sure.
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And her face never changed a motion or
anything.
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I was watching that carefully to see how
she would react. And it was just
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like... Real nonchalant.
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Almost made me wonder if she hadn't, you
know, kind of mentally rehearsed.
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Later that day, Cronwell is escorted
from the office, charged with one count
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wire fraud.
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But for U .S. Marshal Jason Wadillo, the
work is just beginning.
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He seizes Cronwell's possessions and
brings in auctioneer Mike Jennings to
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conduct one of the largest, most
prestigious horse auctions in the world.
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All to raise money to give back to the
town.
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This was a world -prized herd that was
being sold.
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And I knew that people were going to
come from around the world to Dixon,
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Illinois for this auction.
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And they were going to spend money. They
were going to eat at restaurants.
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They were going to stay at hotels.
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And all that tax revenue was going to be
a byproduct of our auction.
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But it was very important to me.
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Having sat down across from the dinner
tables of many of these people in this
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community who were true victims, who
were victimized for so long and deprived
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services, public services, it was very
important to me to have that auction,
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live auction, in Dixon, Illinois.
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Cronwell's horses bring in $5 .5
million.
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Combined with selling Cronwell's other
properties and assets, the U .S.
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return to Dixon about $9 .2 million.
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Most of the rest of the $53 million she
stole are simply the sunken costs of
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Rita Cronwell riding after her
extravagant and expensive dream.
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In the five months that we managed the
herd, we spent about $1 .8 million in
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costs. And that's simply to manage the
herd. We're not showing the horses.
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So, you know, our taking over of the
operation, I think, speaks to knowing
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we were paying, clearly what she must
have been paying.
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But it turns out, all is not lost.
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In October 2013,
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Mayor Burke addresses the town of Dixon
once again.
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The year before, the city sues its two
auditors for not detecting $53 million
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being diverted into Cronwell's pocket.
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And sues Fifth Third Bank for allowing
her to operate the secret account right
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under their noses.
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Without admitting wrongdoing, the three
companies agreed to pay $40 million back
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to the city of Dixon.
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Out of this will come a better, a
sounder, and a more attractive Dixon for
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of us to live in.
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Cronwell pleads guilty to one count of
wire fraud.
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And on February 14, 2013, is sentenced
to 19 years and seven months in prison.
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If she's ever going to see Dixon's
economic recovery...
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It won't be until she's 77 years old.
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In the meantime, people who work with
her day in and day out, like Police
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Dan Langloss, still have questions.
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How could you, Rita?
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How could you? How could you hurt so
many people? How could you do this? How
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could you get people's jobs, people's
families at risk over your greed?
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For what, a horse?
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For a trophy?
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Are you kidding me?
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Next on American Greed.
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Staten Island native Joe Mazzella
convinces investors that he can make
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by turning distressed properties into
gold mines.
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But his promises are as empty as the
buildings he claims to restore.
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Real estate development was never a
vocation for him. His real business, his
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real vocation was fraud.
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Winter 2011.
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Linda Giovinello and her husband Tony
are house hunting in the woods of North
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Carolina.
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They're earning money for a $175 ,000
investment with Staten Island real
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developer Joe Mazzella. And after 27
years of marriage and a lifetime of hard
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work, they think their vision of their
golden years is within their grasp.
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The dream home, the retirement,
everything.
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We thought we were getting there.
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While searching for the perfect home by
the water in which to live out a secure
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future together, they get some
disturbing news.
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Our friend called, and he said, turn
your TV on.
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And I said, why?
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And he said, well, the FBI just went
into Joe Mazzella's office and seized
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files. The couple cuts their trip short
and reaches out to Mazzella to find out
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what's going on.
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And then he called me and said, nothing
to worry about, everything's fine.
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And I said, Joe, don't tell me that.
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I said, FBI does not go in unless
something's wrong. And like my husband
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that was the start of a broken dream.
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Their dream is alive and well only
months earlier when they first come
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Joe Mazzella. As FBI agent John
Robertson explains, Mazzella is a former
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insurance salesman looking to expand his
horizons.
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In the early 90s, he begins his own
company that eventually becomes the
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Atlantic Group.
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The Great Atlantic Group was a one -stop
shop for real estate services. You
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could do loan origination.
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You could modify your existing mortgage.
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You could do wills, estates, trusts.
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To many people, people just in off the
street for a loan modification, that's
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all he would provide them. He'd modify
their mortgages or he'd provide them
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mortgage loans.
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But for others, Joe would identify them
as people with
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significant money to invest, and Joe
would offer real estate investment
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services.
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Mazzella tells these deep -pocketed
clients about an opportunity to invest
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commercial and residential properties
across New York and New Jersey. He says
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that with their investments, he'll be
able to rehab and develop these
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into prime holdings.
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The phrase he used to always use was,
everything's rocking and rolling.
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Loretta Lynch is the U .S. Attorney for
the Eastern District of New York.
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He had this foolproof method, according
to Joe Mazzella.
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Invest your money with me. I guarantee
10%, sometimes 8%, sometimes more, but
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usually around 10%. And he would
differentiate himself from the big
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who were, according to him, promising 20
% and 24%. So he's making people feel
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safe.
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Mazzella guarantees the investment with
a promissory note.
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and projects such confidence that he
even provides a schedule letting
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know exactly what their investment will
be worth every step of the way.
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Joe would provide this to his investors
to say, look, here, you can see in July
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of 2008, eight years from now, this is
exactly what your investment will be
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worth. While the numbers are enticing,
in Staten Island, what really seems to
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pull in clients is the man doing the
picking.
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Joe wasn't some guy sitting in a 100
-story building on 48th and Park in
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Manhattan. Joe was a Staten Islander. He
was your kid's baseball coach.
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He was your uncle. He was your nephew.
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Joe's pitches were just like you going
out and having a beer with a friend. And
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just a normal conversation turns into,
hey, listen, I've got an investment
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program.
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It may be something you want to hear
about. And, in fact, Joe would also hold
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investor meetings where his friends
would bring in their friends.
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He started off by providing routine tips
on how to save money that you can get
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from a Google search and then went into
his spiel and into his pitch, and he
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brought out all these pictures of these
properties that he was telling his
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investors were going to be worth all
this money.
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This is right across from the reservoir.
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This is about 120 units.
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Ann and Joseph Martucci have been
married for 30 years.
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They first heard of Mazzella in 2006, at
a time when the couple could use some
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financial help.
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Ann suffers from diabetes, and Joseph
survived a heart attack earlier in the
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year, and neither is able to work.
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The family is collecting disability, but
they can't seem to make ends meet.
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We were drowning, literally drowning.
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Martucci says that her husband has
always provided for her and their two
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children. But after facing his own
mortality, he not only worries about the
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present, but a possible future when he
may not be around to help at all.
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So he was just desperately scrambling,
continuously scrambling.
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How is he going to provide?
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Joseph Martucci finds a ray of hope.
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when he hears about Joe Mazzella from a
local businessman.
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The couple meets with Mazzella in his
Staten Island office.
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He kind of connected with my husband,
like, almost immediately, because my
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husband was looking for a way out. On
the other hand, I'm not easy, and I
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just didn't trust the whole situation.
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But he was so scared, and rather than
argue with a man who's had a heart
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I said, it's his money.
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Convinced, Joseph eventually invests his
entire 401k with Mazzella, worth more
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than $260 ,000.
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According to the paperwork, their
investment is backed by the mortgage on
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Mazzella's properties in Trenton.
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This is what Joe described to his
investors as a renovation project
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942 Prospect Street in Trenton. This is
what actually was located at 942
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Prospect Street.
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This is bird feces all over the first
two steps. The windows are smashed out.
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The place was empty.
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As a matter of fact, none of Joe
Mazzella's properties are living up to
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artist's vision.
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Joe owed money on these properties to
his lenders.
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They were worth nothing.
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He had some pretty drawings.
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He had some very nice renderings.
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But the reality of those properties were
they were nothing but a financial
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drain. And they simply were a cover.
They were the conduit by which he
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people's money into his own pockets.
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When American Greed returns,
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Joe Mazzella recruits more than 100
investors into his scheme, preaching
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Island values to Staten Island people.
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They didn't hear the snake oil salesman.
They didn't see the carnival operator.
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They saw a neighbor.
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They saw someone who really was
espousing their values.
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Between 2007 and 2011, purported real
estate developer Joe Mazzella brings in
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more than $14 million from over 190
investors on the promise of
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renovating and developing commercial and
residential properties.
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Mazzella's defense attorney, Ephraim
Savitt, believes the business is built
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solid foundation.
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He claims that Mazzella has been
satisfying investors for decades.
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There are 20 years that preceded the Joe
Mazzella case.
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Those 20 years didn't generate any
problems whatsoever.
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As the economy was good and real estate
prices kept on rising, everybody was
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doing good.
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Nobody complained.
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But according to Special Agent John
Robertson, it's all a ruse.
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Most investors only think they're making
money. Many of them simply roll over
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their returns and never actually get
their hands on their so -called
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When somebody says, you know, how's your
money with Joe? Well, what do they do?
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They look at their amortization piece of
paper, and they look and they say, oh,
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well, my $100 ,000 investment, it's not
worth $190 ,000. Look how well I'm
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doing.
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Investors believe that Mazzella has
commercial and private real estate
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properties all over New York and New
Jersey making profits.
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But in reality...
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His properties are absolute money pits.
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This is a property that Joe described to
be his, located on Stokes Avenue in
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Ewing, New Jersey.
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And this is 8894 Stokes in reality.
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Joe never even owned this piece of
property.
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00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:39,789
He didn't put the money into those
properties to develop them, and he had
448
00:30:39,790 --> 00:30:43,050
motivation to develop them. His
motivation was to fleece people.
449
00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:46,390
For Joe Mazzella, the fraud was his job.
450
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:48,930
And the job pays quite well.
451
00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:50,610
After a few expenses.
452
00:30:50,611 --> 00:30:55,009
Well, the money that he would take in
from new investors would go to pay the
453
00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:57,350
old. It was a classic Ponzi scheme.
454
00:30:57,770 --> 00:31:02,029
I have to add, though, a good part of it
went to pay Mr. Mazzella. It went to
455
00:31:02,030 --> 00:31:06,349
pay for his house in a fairly exclusive
area of Staten Island. He went to buy
456
00:31:06,350 --> 00:31:07,400
his cars.
457
00:31:07,550 --> 00:31:12,249
He was a sports memorabilia nut, a great
hobby if you can afford it with your
458
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:12,929
own money.
459
00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:16,240
Unfortunately, he financed it with the
money from his investors.
460
00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:21,529
And Mazzella seems to have a particular
skill in infiltrating different
461
00:31:21,530 --> 00:31:23,910
communities within Staten Island.
462
00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:31,209
Joe took the assets of an entire local
postal union and squandered them. He
463
00:31:31,210 --> 00:31:35,769
had many retired police officers and
firemen liquidate their pensions in a
464
00:31:35,770 --> 00:31:38,090
sum and invest them.
465
00:31:38,670 --> 00:31:41,930
But Mazzella isn't limited to civic
workers.
466
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:44,860
He also got himself in with a deaf
community.
467
00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:50,109
He had an investor who was deaf and
introduced Joe to a lot of other deaf
468
00:31:50,110 --> 00:31:51,160
people.
469
00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:55,649
Tony Giovinello has been deaf since
birth. After working for decades as a
470
00:31:55,650 --> 00:32:00,370
mechanic in Center Reach, New York, he
and his wife of 28 years moved to
471
00:32:00,610 --> 00:32:05,269
Arizona. But Arizona isn't what they
envisioned. And with a settlement from a
472
00:32:05,270 --> 00:32:08,570
car accident, they're hoping to
recapture better times.
473
00:32:09,850 --> 00:32:11,750
When we were living in Center Reach,
474
00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:16,990
Those are happy times. You know, we had
a nice house.
475
00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:18,510
We had a boat.
476
00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:26,229
Tony loves fishing, loves boating. In
Arizona, you just can't do
477
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:27,330
that, you know.
478
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:32,649
While back visiting New York, the
Giovinellos hear from one of Tony's deaf
479
00:32:32,650 --> 00:32:34,730
friends about Joe Mazzella.
480
00:32:35,010 --> 00:32:37,950
We were in New York, and his friend...
481
00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:45,579
told us about this person that he was
investing money with, and that this
482
00:32:45,580 --> 00:32:49,939
of his also had a lawyer friend that had
also invested money with him. And
483
00:32:49,940 --> 00:32:55,039
seven, ten years they've been doing it,
and they had no problems. They were
484
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,540
getting their monthly income.
485
00:32:56,660 --> 00:32:59,200
Linda decides to meet Bozella in person.
486
00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:03,900
After hearing his pitch, she discusses
the idea again with Tony.
487
00:33:04,810 --> 00:33:09,809
I told him, I said, he seems to be fine.
I didn't see anything that I didn't
488
00:33:09,810 --> 00:33:15,790
like. And then we decided to invest $100
,000 with him.
489
00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:19,570
And that was in August of 2010.
490
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:29,729
What the Giovinellos don't know is that
by August 2010, Mazzella is in serious
491
00:33:29,730 --> 00:33:34,859
trouble. With the economy struggling,
More and more investors are asking for
492
00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:38,619
their money, and he's having trouble
paying his clients their monthly
493
00:33:38,620 --> 00:33:39,670
distributions.
494
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,620
Once he had about 150 to 200 investors,
it became managing chaos.
495
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,239
How to is whack -a -mole. If one
investor came up and they were screaming
496
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,099
money, Joe would pay him off, and
hopefully another investor would come in
497
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:55,899
door the next day to make him whole
again.
498
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:59,600
In his desperation, Mazzella turns up
the recruiting efforts.
499
00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:04,659
He's still trying to get money from
people. He's still telling them that
500
00:34:04,660 --> 00:34:06,700
real estate investments are profitable.
501
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,579
He kept using the phrase rocket and
rolling when they weren't doing anything
502
00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:12,630
declining.
503
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,619
Mazzella even comes up with a new
investment opportunity, a golf course
504
00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:21,560
condominium project in upstate New York
called Golden Greens.
505
00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:25,159
In reality, it's just another empty
promise.
506
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:28,460
This is what was supposed to be the golf
course.
507
00:34:28,461 --> 00:34:32,499
Absolutely no evidence of any
development or the existence of any golf
508
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:33,550
whatsoever.
509
00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:37,760
It's a lot as empty as Mazzella's own
bank accounts.
510
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,619
Most of the $14 million Mazzella has
taken in from more than 190 investors in
511
00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:45,820
the past four years is gone.
512
00:34:46,659 --> 00:34:49,820
It's used to pay interest to past
investors.
513
00:34:50,889 --> 00:34:55,089
Near the end of 2010, December, Joe may
have had about $15 ,000 across the
514
00:34:55,090 --> 00:34:58,269
different bank accounts. Even his own
home, he had a million -dollar mortgage
515
00:34:58,270 --> 00:35:02,429
on. The only thing that Joe owned were
the sports memorabilia that were hanging
516
00:35:02,430 --> 00:35:03,469
in his office.
517
00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:08,549
When American Greed returns, Joe
Mazzella can't keep the balls in the air
518
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:13,110
longer. And some investors aren't going
to just let them fall without a fight.
519
00:35:13,490 --> 00:35:15,170
I was calling him every single day.
520
00:35:15,630 --> 00:35:19,750
Where's my money? Where's my money?
Where's my money? And he kept saying to
521
00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:23,380
it's... You know, it's coming. The
lawyers are working on it. Blah, blah,
522
00:35:23,381 --> 00:35:24,539
blah, blah, blah, blah.
523
00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:26,400
And there was no money.
524
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,280
In the summer of 2009, Joseph and Ann
Martucci received stunning news.
525
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,120
Ann is diagnosed with lymphoma.
526
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:51,720
On September 16th, She goes in for her
first chemotherapy treatment.
527
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:55,600
The next morning, the family's troubles
get even worse.
528
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,120
Ann has to call an ambulance when her
husband complains of chest pains.
529
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:08,119
He walked out, down my front steps, got
on the gurney himself, and all of a
530
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,380
sudden, we see his arm go to the side.
531
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,240
I did not believe that that was going to
be the last time I saw him.
532
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,759
At only 54 years old, Joseph Martucci
dies that morning of congestive heart
533
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,810
failure.
534
00:36:23,860 --> 00:36:29,479
The Martucci's have $260 ,000 invested
with Staten Island real estate developer
535
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,900
Joe Mazzella.
536
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,440
They believe the interest in the
investment has been accruing in their
537
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,420
But with their husband's death, Martucci
begins taking monthly payouts.
538
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,970
I...
539
00:36:42,510 --> 00:36:48,770
was receiving money for one year of, I
believe it was $2 ,210.
540
00:36:49,810 --> 00:36:56,069
And it just, it was great at the time
because I needed it. That's exactly what
541
00:36:56,070 --> 00:36:59,650
my mortgage payment was. So that went
from here to my mortgage.
542
00:37:00,530 --> 00:37:05,490
Meanwhile, inside the Great Atlantic
Group, Mazzella's luck is about to run
543
00:37:06,430 --> 00:37:12,049
In October 2010, an employee of the
company contacts the FBI with
544
00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:14,830
that Mazzella may be running a Ponzi
scheme.
545
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:19,989
Special Agent John Robertson begins
investigating Mazzella's properties and
546
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:22,450
finds one rat trap after another.
547
00:37:23,170 --> 00:37:27,290
All the hopes and dreams of these
investors were in awful areas in
548
00:37:27,490 --> 00:37:29,850
We're in an empty warehouse in Utica.
549
00:37:29,851 --> 00:37:32,989
And then we went to the golf course
where we thought if there's going to be
550
00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:35,499
hope that it's legitimate, it'll be at
the golf course.
551
00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:38,779
Well, we go to the golf course, and
there's not even a golf course. There's
552
00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:39,830
nothing there.
553
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:47,119
On January 28, 2011, the FBI raids
Mazzella's office and pulls him aside
554
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,879
questioning. I said to Joe, look, you
know, we have enough bank records to
555
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,930
this room.
556
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,999
And what these bank records show me is
that you've been perpetrating a Ponzi
557
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,730
scheme for several years now. And Joe
said, I cannot argue the bank records.
558
00:38:02,731 --> 00:38:06,679
If you can't argue the bank records, and
the bank records show you taking money
559
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,120
from Peter and paying Paul, you've got a
Ponzi scheme.
560
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,220
Mazzella is charged with 12 counts
related to the fraud and pleads not
561
00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:21,579
In trial, his attorney, Ephraim Savitt,
asserts that the situation is just a
562
00:38:21,580 --> 00:38:25,920
case of a desperate man trying to
operate under difficult circumstances.
563
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,820
Now, there are 20 years that preceded
the Joe Mazzella case.
564
00:38:31,980 --> 00:38:37,839
Those 20 years didn't generate any
problems whatsoever, any complaints, any
565
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,200
lawsuits. Things went wrong essentially
when the real estate market fell.
566
00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:49,760
The developers of various real estate
tracks were unable to pay Mazzella,
567
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:56,119
as a result of which Mazzella was unable
to pay his clients, as a result of
568
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,840
which he reached out to other clients
with representations.
569
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,000
not all of which were entirely true. In
fact, some of them were false.
570
00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:11,080
Desperation leads to this kind of a
situation.
571
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:18,519
The jury doesn't sympathize. They find
Mazzella guilty on 10 of the 12 counts
572
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,570
charged.
573
00:39:20,020 --> 00:39:26,179
On June 15, 2012, he is sentenced to 10
years in prison and ordered to repay
574
00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:28,800
$14 million in restitution.
575
00:39:29,370 --> 00:39:32,970
But it's unlikely the victims will ever
see any of it.
576
00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:38,690
John Robinson came out after me when it
was all over because I was hysterical.
577
00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:42,949
And he came out and he put his arm
around me and he said, Ann, make believe
578
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:43,929
never had the money.
579
00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:49,929
The healthiest attitude in a case like
this is that you have to accept the
580
00:39:49,930 --> 00:39:54,829
possibility, if not probability, that
you'll never see this money again. All
581
00:39:54,830 --> 00:39:58,109
can do with some of these investors is
give them a hug. I mean, it's it. It's
582
00:39:58,110 --> 00:39:58,999
all you can do.
583
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,099
People have lost their homes, they've
lost equity in their homes, they've lost
584
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:07,279
their savings accounts, and they've lost
their retirement accounts.
585
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:14,059
But I have to tell you, as tremendous an
impact as that has, what is really even
586
00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:17,980
worse has been the personal impact on so
many of these victims.
587
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,200
Their trust in themselves has been
destroyed.
588
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,120
They no longer think that they have good
judgment.
589
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,820
They feel shame.
590
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:28,550
They feel guilt.
591
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,970
I would cry.
592
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,360
Yeah, he would cry, you know.
593
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,259
I mean, we sat and had long
conversations, and he says, you know,
594
00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:42,440
-earned money is just gone, you know.
And I said, yeah, it's gone.
595
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,499
The Giovinellos still hope to get to
North Carolina someday, but now
596
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:49,800
is a long way off.
597
00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:54,459
Linda has returned to nursing in New
York while Tony tries to find work in
598
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:58,719
Arizona. In the meantime... They have to
sort through the pain they've suffered
599
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,000
and the toll it's taken on their
marriage.
600
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:02,550
Look at me.
601
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,480
Tell me what you feel.
602
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:11,100
They want to stay married.
603
00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:19,080
I just want you to know that I don't
blame you.
604
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,520
I mean, it was a joint decision.
605
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,440
We made...
606
00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:28,040
The investment together.
607
00:41:28,660 --> 00:41:31,380
You didn't force me. I didn't force you.
608
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,180
And I love you.
609
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:42,119
And Martucci's husband is no longer with
her. And now even his legacy is largely
610
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,140
gone. It's devastating.
611
00:41:44,420 --> 00:41:45,680
It really is devastating.
612
00:41:45,940 --> 00:41:51,920
It's a devastating feeling to know how a
man has worked since he's 17 years old.
613
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,060
And he's gone.
614
00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:57,730
And everything he worked for is gone.
615
00:41:58,390 --> 00:42:03,269
Bartucci was depending on Mazzella's
payments to pay her mortgage because she
616
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:07,110
has diabetes and is recovering from
lymphoma and can't work.
617
00:42:07,970 --> 00:42:12,069
And thanks to Joe Mazzella, she now
faces the likelihood that she'll lose
618
00:42:12,070 --> 00:42:13,120
home.
619
00:42:13,610 --> 00:42:18,310
Still, she is trying her hardest to keep
her thoughts on the good in life.
620
00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:22,190
I wake up in the morning and I can say
hello to my two children.
621
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,970
That's the most important thing in my
life.
622
00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:27,840
And so they come and put the lock on the
store.
623
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,660
That's the way it's going to be.
624
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,460
I can't do anything about it.
625
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,979
And I'm not going to let that SOB be a
part of my thoughts, be a part of my
626
00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:44,339
anxiety. He'll have his day, and either
he's having it now or God's got
627
00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:45,900
something else in store for him.
628
00:42:46,140 --> 00:42:47,280
But he'll get his.
629
00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:49,940
When you work for Steve Stevens.
630
00:42:49,941 --> 00:42:53,339
Two big games tonight on the West Coast.
You ready to kick some ass? We're going
631
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:56,380
2 -0 tonight. You better always be
closing.
632
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,680
Good afternoon. How are you doing, sir?
633
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,499
Can a young agent cut it in the
cutthroat sports betting biz? Is this
634
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:04,759
what you want to do or what?
635
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,840
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