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In this episode of American Greed, a
televised art auction brings
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to the masses. I've got an opening bid
at $100.
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It was like there was this whole other
world taking place behind a curtain that
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I didn't even know anything about.
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But if a rare Picasso selling for $500
sounds too good to be true... I can't
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believe these pieces are going at these
prices.
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It probably is.
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I would be very careful about ever
wanting to give my credit card out to
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people. It's a picture -perfect scam by
a real con artist.
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What could be more brazen than doing it
on TV?
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One, twice, go.
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Somewhere in Southern California, more
than 700 pieces of art sit piled high
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inside a top -secret warehouse.
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They appear to be signed works by
Picasso, Chagall, Dali, Nero, Rembrandt,
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waiting to be sold live on the Fine Art
Treasures Gallery.
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Televised auction.
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I've got a bid at $100. I've got $200.
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I've got $300.
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Their whole point was just to get the
artwork on the air, get these
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on the air, and push the bids across the
screen and move on to the next one as
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quick as possible.
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This next piece is called Venus
Withdraws, a very, very famous image of
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Dali. He actually later on created a
sculpture about this piece as well.
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Wonderful, very colorful piece. It's
signed, and it's an artist's proof,
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and gentlemen, so good luck.
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Bidding starts at a fraction of the
artwork's actual value.
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This should be going for ten times its
amount.
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Today, it's your auction.
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Nine, ten, go and watch. Nine, fifteen.
It's an opportunity for every middle
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-class art lover, not just the upper
crust, to invest in their very own
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masterwork.
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Anytime you have a piece of art.
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that starts off bidding at $1 ,000 that
you're being told is worth $80 ,000 on
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the open market, that's too good to be
true.
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But for the nearly 10 ,000 bidders who
think they're getting the deal of the
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century, their impression of Fine Art
Treasures Gallery is dead wrong.
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There are a lot of people who are
sitting at home in their living room
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at a fake piece of art and they don't
even know it.
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And this awesome piece is going.
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Going! Go on!
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Fine Art Treasures Gallery is the magnum
opus of Christine Eubanks, a serial
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entrepreneur based in Los Angeles.
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But long before the televised auction,
Eubanks is just another yuppie hoping to
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make it big in showbiz.
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Everyone described her as being somebody
who was fairly intelligent.
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We heard things like she had an Ivy
League education.
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Eubanks grows up in Chicago, and after
college, she moves to New York City to
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work for a movie studio's distribution
arm.
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She was always a competitive
salesperson, at least the way she
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me. She loved listening to the song
Brick House in her car before she'd go
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sales meeting at that job.
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The competitive saleswoman soon moved to
Los Angeles, where she makes a turn
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from the movie business to fine art.
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Christine would engage in fine art
photography as a hobby, and she would
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other fine art photographers and learn
about other techniques and skills.
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And somewhere down the line, she
decided, okay, then let's make a
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of it.
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Former Assistant U .S. Attorney David
Willingham says she and her husband,
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Gerald Sullivan, opened Finer Image
Editions, an art reproduction studio in
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1995. She wore the pants in the family.
She really controlled the business, and
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she really was the one in charge of
every aspect of it. And he, Mr.
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ran the details, ran the accounts,
handled the transactions.
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The business sells reproduced artwork to
clients like Princess Cruise Lines.
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Princess Cruise Lines bought art from
Finer Image Edition and sold them to
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people who were just, you know, having
fun with themselves or the families on
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cruises. These are big accounts, and
Eubanks is thrilled with the demand for
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reproductions, demand that's becoming
easier to meet thanks to new technology
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like the state -of -the -art Giclay
printer.
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By 2000, Eubanks' finer image editions
is one of only a handful of businesses
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using the giclee to reprint artwork.
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And Eubanks markets it to the hilt,
seeking artists who would like to
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their work.
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Finer Image had run an ad in the Art
Business News, which is a very big
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for the industry, about this new process
and about how they were printing this
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new giclee, lifelike images.
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The Chiclay technology catches the
attention of 49 -year -old artist John O
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'Brien, a rising painter who dreams of
becoming a superstar.
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This used to be John's art studio, where
he spent seven days a week painting.
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O 'Brien is having modest success with
his Irish landscapes and Parisian street
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seeds, and the City of Light holds
special significance for him and his
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Martha. I met him in the summer of 1989
in Paris on a houseboat underneath the
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Eiffel Tower, which is one of those
moments that you're never expecting, and
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wasn't either. It was just magical.
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Martha, a ballet instructor, and her new
husband barely eke out a living.
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We were living not month to month, but
it was tight. You know, we were living
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comfortable, but it was tight.
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O 'Brien soon catches a break when he
lands an agent, and it's not long before
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licensing companies come calling.
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Soon his work begins to appear on
puzzles, wall planks, even oven mitts.
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started picking up, and all of a sudden
John was making money, and he was
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getting recognized, and his artwork was
getting into some very prominent homes.
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Poster companies also approach O 'Brien,
but he's deathly afraid of losing
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control.
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The puzzles he saw as a wonderful way to
get his name out there and to get
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people interested in his work and then
maybe go to the website to buy an
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original painting or an authentic
reproduction.
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But he didn't like the idea of his work
being cheapened.
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Eubanks knows that control is everything
to an artist, and O 'Brien is no
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exception. So she draws up an
irresistible offer.
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O 'Brien will custom order reproductions
directly from finer image editions, and
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Christine Eubanks will faithfully
manufacture them.
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The light had come on, that this was now
what we had been waiting for, a sign
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that things were going to turn around,
that life was good.
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Eubanks preys on O 'Brien's artistic
sensibility and gains his trust by
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quality is most important in the
reproduction process.
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All he has to do is hand over an
original.
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And then this is just a sample that they
showed him on a little piece of canvas
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to get his approval of how brilliant the
color is, what it would feel like, the
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thickness of the canvas, the quality of
the canvas. He was blown away because
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his work is so detailed and he's all
about color.
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And he couldn't believe that the colors
just jumped right out so brilliantly.
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O 'Brien takes the deal.
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And Christine Eubanks now has unlimited
access to John O 'Brien's original work,
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and she's seeing dollar signs in the
reproductions.
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Next on American Greed, as O 'Brien's
popularity grows, see how Eubanks uses
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copying skills to capitalize on his
talents.
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The only question that we both have was,
you don't pull somebody to try to pass
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it off as an original.
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In 2000, Christine Eubanks has struck
gold in the world of art reproduction.
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Her company, Finer Image Editions, cuts
exclusive reproduction deals with
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artists like painter John O 'Brien.
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But now Eubanks wants to take it to the
next level and mass produce authorized
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copies of O 'Brien's original work that
she would sell herself.
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Instead of just custom ordering for
John, they wanted to be on the other end
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it, which is let us go ahead and mass
produce your work and we'll sell it and
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we'll pay you a royalty or a signature
fee for every piece that you sign for
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Eubanks promises O 'Brien will join the
big leagues and be in the company of
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millionaire artists like Thomas Kinkade.
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That was like, okay, here's our ticket
into that circle and get his name out
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there big time, get full page ads at Art
Business News and attract the collector
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who would pay $60 ,000 for one of John's
paintings.
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But the initial euphoria fades when over
the next year, Eubanks' promises prove
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worthless. I found these old letters
that were written by Christy Eubanks.
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Just to all artists, together we will be
the best ever.
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We never saw a penny that year.
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Far from joining the big leagues, the O
'Briens struggle to make ends meet. And
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they decide to sell some of John's
pieces on eBay.
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But when they log in...
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They can't believe what they see.
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And so then we would go to eBay just to
see what other artists were doing, to
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see what was on there, and that's when
we discovered that somebody else had
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already put one of his pieces of artwork
up for sale on eBay.
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And then there became more and more of
them kept popping up.
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Posters, prints.
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To their horror, unauthorized knockoffs
of O 'Brien's work have flooded the
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market. I think we were both just in
shock.
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I mean, just totally, like, how did this
happen? And then it just started
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happening on a regular basis.
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The O 'Briens ordered a piece to try to
get some answers.
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And then we got ourselves a nice print
of John's work.
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What was the shocker was the certificate
of authenticity signed
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not by the artist, which is what the
agreement has always been, that John
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sign each one approving the piece and
then also signing the jaclet, but then
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forged signature.
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on the piece itself.
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The O 'Briens know there's only one
person who could be responsible for the
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forgeries because only one person had
access to the originals, Christine
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Eubanks.
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It was such easy money. It's just like
counterfeiting money.
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I mean, you've got a printer.
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You type in 100 and push the button
print.
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You've got 100 images.
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Unfortunately, he trusted in the wrong
person. Christine Eubanks fooled him
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she fooled everybody else and took those
images and... stole them in order to
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sell them on the market.
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But the damage is more widespread than
the O 'Briens realize.
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Unbeknownst to them, Eubanks is selling
unauthorized copies of O 'Brien's work
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to corporate clients like Princess
Cruise Lines.
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O 'Brien soon cuts ties with Eubanks,
and he struggles to regain control of
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work and support his family of four.
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Martha O 'Brien's father comes to their
aid and invests in a pricey Giclay
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printer. John realized that he was going
to have to do it all himself, that he
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wasn't going to go into business with
anybody else. He wasn't going to send
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transparencies out to anybody else. He
was going to do everything in -house.
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But despite his best efforts, O 'Brien's
biggest fear has already come true.
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He was furious.
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And he felt really, I don't want to say
stupid, but...
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Why didn't we try harder to prevent this
from happening? That question of what
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did we do wrong that this could happen,
because that was his biggest fear, is to
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lose control of that.
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So far, Christine Eubanks has
successfully scammed artist John O
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But she knows she'll make millions more
if she can somehow con the art buyers
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themselves.
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In 2002, Eubanks and her husband, Gerald
Sullivan, meet a fast -talking
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auctioneer named Jimmy Mobley, an ex
-con with a drug problem.
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He'd had a lot of exposure to art
dealers prior to that and, you know, not
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the most savory kind, I guess.
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Together, they hatch a diabolical plan
to sell massive quantities of bogus and
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unauthorized art on live TV.
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He introduced her to a lot of these
people.
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who would sell art and help her get it
reproduced, for example.
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In exchange for that, and also for being
the auctioneer, you're supposed to get
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a cut of what came in through the
television show.
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They give the show a seemingly
legitimate name, Fine Art Treasures
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And they know that broadcasting on the
Dish network and DirecTV will make the
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show seem even more incredible.
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When you do something on TV...
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People want to believe, and in fact they
do believe that it's real. So there's
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no other better way to hide your scam
other than doing it out and in the open.
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The stakes are high for Christine
Eubanks, who spends at least $50 ,000 to
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produce 11 hours of airtime every
weekend.
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The business model was, whether it's
just a dozen people watching or 2 ,000
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people watching, the real value of the
show was, are we able to sell?
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They're making tons of money.
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But they had to put that money back in
the scheme to keep it going.
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Next on American Greed. We're going to
start the bidding right now. Fine Art
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Treasures Gallery is a tour de force,
but buyer beware.
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$3 .55 I have going once.
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$3 .55 going twice.
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Sold at $3 .55.
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This is really unbelievable.
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In September 2002, Christine Eubanks
broadcasts her first episode of Fine Art
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Treasures Gallery.
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Sexy women and silver -tongued
auctioneers move the merchandise, but
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closely. There are no art experts.
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You may remember Norman Rockwell from
his Saturday Night Evening Post magazine
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covers. Viewers are led to believe that
the lots are authentic artwork by the
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original artists, which they say come
from estate liquidation sales.
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Amazingly, Fine Art Treasures Gallery
even sells multiple prints from the same
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series of very rare, limited editions.
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The chances of a legitimate dealer or
any dealer having two actual and
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rare pieces of the same series slim to
none. That just doesn't happen in the
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real world.
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Despite these red flags, the calls come
pouring in.
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It's music to Christine Eubank's ears.
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Though sometimes even the calls are
fake, a little trick devised by
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Jimmy Mobley.
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Mr. Mobley would use his cell phone and
he would hit the ringing sound near a
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mic so that it would sound like people
were calling in the show. I'd love to
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the phone ring again.
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Anybody out there?
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And there's another funny thing about
the auction.
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Everyone's a winner.
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If they had two normal people bidding,
they would tell both of them that they
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actually won the auction and basically
print off another piece in order to sell
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two pieces.
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Congratulations to you on that. Once a
bidder's payment is processed, Fine Art
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Treasures ships the merchandise.
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You had people who were just completely
unsophisticated in their knowledge of
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the art world getting what should have
been an $80 ,000 piece of artwork
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to them essentially in a cardboard box.
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While Fine Art Treasures Gallery takes
off, John and Martha O 'Brien are still
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battling Christine Eubanks to get the
money they're owed.
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But the couple soon learns they have an
even more desperate fight on their
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hands.
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He started getting headaches, really bad
headaches. So he was having a hard time
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painting. And so he would go to doctors,
and the doctors would say things like,
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well, it's eye strain.
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In April 2004, John O 'Brien's doctor
tells the O 'Briens the devastating
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It's melanoma.
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He has cancer.
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They finally had a complete body scan,
and we found that it metastasized
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everywhere in his body, so it was
terminal.
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Everything just came to a screeching
halt.
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At this point, he had no agent.
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We had the licensing that was ongoing,
so we had the royalty checks, but really
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all we were doing was just fighting for
his life.
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John O 'Brien succumbs to cancer just
six months after his diagnosis.
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He dies the very same day as his
daughter's sixth birthday.
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I remember just lying next to him in our
bed and holding his hand and letting
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him know that it was okay to go.
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Because I knew that he was fighting
really, really hard. And he died shortly
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after that.
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And as Martha O 'Brien suffers the
greatest loss of her life, Christine
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is just raking it in.
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Sold! Sold!
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Sold! Fine Art Treasures Gallery grosses
between $100 ,000 and $250 ,000 each
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broadcast. But Eubanks and her husband
don't spend lavishly.
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Rather, they live in a modest ranch
-style home in the low -key Los Angeles
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suburb of La Cunada Pool Bridge.
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In fact, Eubanks has to work so hard to
keep the scam going that the volume of
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business is too much for her to handle.
So she hires Rona Lopez as her new
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office operations manager.
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I felt rejuvenated being in there, like,
wow, this is a real art place and a
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real studio, and there are all these
people working.
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It's not long before Lopez is producing
the televised auction.
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She organizes the artwork and handles
customer complaints.
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They'd say, oh, it was late.
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Oh, the frame was chipped. Explain to me
the certificate of authenticity, or I
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refuse delivery.
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A good portion of what we did in the
office was trying to resolve these
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Christine Eubanks, a true master of
spin, paints some pretty artful
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explanations.
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Someone had claimed that they received a
Chagall, and Chagall had misspelled his
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name. They immediately called back to
Fine Art Treasures Gallery asking, hey,
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Chagall misspelled his name, and they
had convinced this victim. That happens
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once in a while with the artist, and you
actually have a more rare item than you
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had before, and your deal was even a
better deal than you actually got
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only a few pieces are there out there
where they misspelled their own names,
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the person bought it.
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Though business is booming, Customer
service is becoming a real thorn in
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Eubank's side.
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She would always tell me that she was
barely making a profit. And I took her
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word for it that, yeah, this is an
expensive business. She would say, this
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why I have to fight very hard these
credit card complaints.
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And fight she did, especially when
customers would come to the office
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for a refund.
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In one case, she grabbed one person and
threw them out of the business. In
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another instance, the man turned around
and she kicked him in the rear. All of
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this sort of fit into what we were
hearing, that she was very aggressive.
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One of our victims, he tried to return
some art to the premises.
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Christine Eubanks simply locked him out,
shut the door on him, and wouldn't take
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the art back.
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In late 2004, Special Agent Christopher
Calarco with the FBI's newly created art
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crime team gets several calls about Fine
Art Treasures Gallery.
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A couple people had complained that they
had bought a piece of art for a couple
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thousand dollars and then later learned
that it was fake.
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Agent Calarco also learns that Fine Art
Treasures Gallery reaches more than 25
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million households across the country.
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There was a lot of... Fake art that was
circulating in the art market. It wasn't
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like it was something I'd never heard
before.
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But this was the first time I'd heard
about a TV show that was selling the
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Calarco knows that every weekend that
goes by, hundreds of unsuspecting people
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could be victimized in their very own
living rooms.
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Coming up, the feds tune in to Fine Art
Treasures Gallery and questions emerge.
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Is this a $2 million fraud, $10 million
fraud?
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What are we dealing with here?
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By late 2004, the televised art auction
Fine Art Treasures Gallery has been on
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the air for more than a year.
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It's bringing in millions of dollars for
its owner, Christine Eubanks.
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But FBI Special Agent Christopher
Calarco believes the auction is nothing
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than an infomercial for fraudulent art.
And he launches an investigation.
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When I started kind of getting an idea
of the potential scope of the fraud and
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how many victims and how much loss there
could be, the case took on a sense of
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urgency. Agent Calarco does some
digging, and he finds that the Better
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Bureau has given Fine Art Treasures
Gallery an F rating because of customer
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complaints. And when he finally sees the
show... We were blown away at what we
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were seeing.
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We are now moving into our Marc Chagall
segment. The way the auction looked.
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It didn't feel right.
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He loved the circus. He loved lovers.
The way the auctioneer was calling out
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bid. Well, 200 I have. There seemed to
be something going on. It didn't seem
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legitimate. Sally. 300. Sally also.
Thank you. You're watching it, and it
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felt grimy, dirty. I would be very
careful about ever wanting to give my
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card up to these people.
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401 going once. 401 going twice.
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So.
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Agent Calarco's first call is to
Detective Don Harisik with the Los
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Police Department.
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I am the art cop for the city of L .A.
Detective Harisik has been working art
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fraud cases for more than 20 years, and
Fine Art Treasure Gallery is already on
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his radar.
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I thought it was hokey, but I could see
its potential for grabbing an uninformed
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buyer out there.
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to give them a taste of owning something
that may have been signed by the hand
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of a modern -day master.
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Detective Harizic knows that the intent
to defraud can be difficult to prove, so
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the team makes undercover buys on the
air.
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We need to know more than somebody was
sold a fake artwork. We need to be able
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to show that this business is
consciously doing that. They aren't just
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something from a supplier, and they
don't know anything about the supplier,
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that they're just a middle person.
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Well, if someone says this was hand
-signed, everyone's going to assume that
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was hand -signed by the artist. But, you
know, someone could always fall back on
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the fact that, oh, we didn't say it was
signed by Picasso or Chagall. We would
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ask questions like, did Picasso really
sign that? Yes, Picasso signed the
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painting. So clarifying those type of
misrepresentations, because people can
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kind of wiggle around using words to
protect themselves.
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Detective Hristic then takes the pieces
to experts like Brentwood gallerist
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Leslie Sachs.
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Sachs has been identifying fakes for
Hristic for 15 years.
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This is an example of an image that was
offered to me of a Picasso oil, and I
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looked at the photograph in the book,
matched up the details exactly, and came
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to a determination that some of the
details were not exactly corresponding.
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The problematic work has a full stop
between the two and the five in the
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whereas here it's not visible as a
separation.
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Investigators know they're dealing with
a genuine fraud, but they don't know
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who's running the show.
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So Agent Calarco goes undercover to
Canvas Spinar Treasures' Van Nuys
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It's a shrewd investigative move that
really pays off.
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I was doing some poking around at the
businesses.
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I was just in the area, walking around,
talking to some of the employees, just
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acting like I was looking for another
address and chatting them up about the
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business. And at one point, I actually
bumped into Christine Eubanks.
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It was in the warehouse, standing over
what appeared to be some type of print.
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I was asking her for directions, and
really I was looking around to see kind
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what I could see.
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It looked like she may have been signing
something at the bottom of the print.
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It's one thing to have the word of
people who were otherwise involved in
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game, but it's another thing to have the
investigating agent just walk in and
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watch her do it herself.
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And the team's findings are confirmed
when they get a tip from an insider, a
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bookkeeper at Fine Art Treasures
Gallery.
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She told us everything we needed to know
about how the fake scheme worked
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internally. The fact that they were
buying fake art from several places
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the country.
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That they were also printing off large
amounts of fake art that they would then
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ship to the TV studios where they would
then sell them live at the auction.
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I've got an opening bid at $1 ,000.
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And while investigators race to gather
enough evidence to make the case, the
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show goes on.
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Okay, here we go.
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Dozens of fake Picassos, Chagalls, and
Dollys hit the airwaves.
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Some people want this piece.
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And the prices keep going up. I am up to
$4 ,500 on a piece that would sell in a
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gallery for $1 ,000. and thousands and
thousands of dollars more because it's
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pencil signed. And with each broadcast,
more bidders fall victim.
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Like Myron Tempchin, a successful
engineer and art lover.
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We were in a hotel and we're watching
the TV and here comes this art auction.
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There isn't a lot around these days
except people. With its artful
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It's easy to see how even savvy
collectors like Timption might get
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a bidding sequence like this. Ladies and
gentlemen, I think you might want to
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get in on the bidding.
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A hand -signed Picasso piece.
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Here comes all of these Picassos, the
signed lithos, and so we start.
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Just thinking, well, maybe we should bid
and see what happens.
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You don't want to pass this up. This is
like money in the bank.
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The dollars are going up and the dollars
are going up.
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$5 ,200.
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$5 ,300.
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$5 ,400.
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I've got $6 ,000.
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The clock is running out.
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You want to let it go for $6 ,000?
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Then we'll let it go.
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She says, do you want to put in one
final bid?
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Ten seconds to go.
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And you say yes. $6 ,000 going twice.
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Sold for $6 ,000. Wow, that is just
fabulous.
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Congratulations on that once -in -a
-lifetime win. I won this bid, and I
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let me just make sure I understand what
this is.
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This is a legitimate lithograph. Yes,
it's signed by Picasso himself.
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Yes, it's an original signature from
Picasso.
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Yes, there's a certificate of
authenticity from a recognized art
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Yes. Next on American Greed, Myron
Temption wins the bid and Christine
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claims another victim.
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And then I ask.
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If the piece of work isn't what you
portray it to be, is it refundable? And
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say no.
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To see more of Fine Art Treasures
Gallery, go to americangreed .cnbc .com.
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be right back.
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In late November 2005,
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Myron Tempchin wins his first Picasso
lithograph from Fine Art Treasures
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Gallery.
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At just $2 ,010, Timption thinks he's
getting a real steal.
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I think we were excited to think that we
could have a lithograph from Picasso,
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and then it would be something I think
we thought we could, you know, pass down
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through the family.
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Tempchen gets so caught up in the action
that he actually bids on and wins a
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second Picasso for $2 ,050.
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The bid taker tells Tempchen the pieces
will be shipped via FedEx to arrive on
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December 1, 2005.
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The box shows up, and my wife calls me
and says, we've got the first Picasso,
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00:29:26,540 --> 00:29:33,039
and it looks like a Xerox copy of a
piece of work done by Picasso in a semi
445
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,090
-fancy frame.
446
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,460
And the certificate of authenticity?
447
00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:38,960
Wasn't framed. It wasn't in color.
448
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:45,040
It had no seal on it. It was just
something somebody hand scribbled
449
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,819
The certificate also reveals that the
lithograph Timption thought he purchased
450
00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:52,140
is really something called a verso.
451
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:59,579
Evidently, a verso is the front side,
the left side or the right side of
452
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:01,860
a page in a book.
453
00:30:02,380 --> 00:30:08,319
And I think we probably have nicer
copies of Potassos in the books in our
454
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,370
art library.
455
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,800
Myron Timpkin knows he's been fooled.
456
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,480
And like any disgruntled customer, he
sets out to get his money back.
457
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,519
I have their mailing receipt. They have
an address. I'm going to go to the
458
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,420
office. I'm going to bring them back the
art and say, give me back my money.
459
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,240
If only it were that easy.
460
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:34,339
The office address is a short eight
-mile drive from Tempchin's home. But
461
00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:36,840
he gets there, something's not right.
462
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:44,639
I can't find the address because the
address turns out to be a mailbox in
463
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320
one of these walk -in mail stores.
464
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,520
So there is no company. There is no
address.
465
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,340
There's a standard answering machine
that just runs.
466
00:30:57,150 --> 00:31:00,730
Takes messages and probably nobody
responds.
467
00:31:02,030 --> 00:31:07,329
Tempchin scours his receipts for other
contact information, and he finds a
468
00:31:07,330 --> 00:31:12,469
number for Christine Eubank's other
company, the art reproduction business
469
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:13,570
Image Editions.
470
00:31:13,930 --> 00:31:16,470
The answering machine voice.
471
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,499
For this other company, it's the same
voice of the answering machine. For the
472
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:27,659
auction house, I looked them up on the
Internet, and it turns out that these
473
00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:34,319
guys make what they call museum -quality
sea clays. So they are
474
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,220
a fancy copy store.
475
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,320
Jemchin drives to the Van Nuys office,
but that, too, is a dead end.
476
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,319
I couldn't get any response from
anybody. We don't know anything about
477
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:54,019
auction. All we do is make these prints
and sell them to whoever wants to buy
478
00:31:54,020 --> 00:31:55,070
them.
479
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Demption is more determined than ever to
bring these scammers to justice.
480
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,640
And he leaves word for Special Agent
Christopher Talarco at the FBI.
481
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,600
About a week later, we get a phone call.
482
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,780
The agent, Chris, says, I'd like to come
over.
483
00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:12,870
talk to you. I'd like to look at the
art.
484
00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:17,910
It was very shortly after meeting them,
I realized that they could be trusted.
485
00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:22,649
And I asked for their discretion and
they guaranteed it to me. And they let
486
00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:26,369
take their art. We used their art as one
of the pieces that we took to experts
487
00:32:26,370 --> 00:32:28,310
to verify that it was fake.
488
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:37,259
By 2006, Fine Art Treasures Gallery is
more successful than ever, and the
489
00:32:37,260 --> 00:32:41,240
competitor in Christine Eubanks pushes
hard to keep the scam going,
490
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,180
micromanaging every aspect of the
production.
491
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,439
I heard from witnesses and people that
worked there that she was a very
492
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,560
intimidating person.
493
00:32:50,780 --> 00:32:53,380
Many people claim to be afraid of her.
494
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:58,799
She's somebody that lives inside her own
specious logic. She comes up with her
495
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,880
own sort of...
496
00:33:00,460 --> 00:33:04,660
idea of what's right and wrong and how
she can justify these things in her
497
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,940
She's a sociopath.
498
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,720
In August, Eubanks hires television
director Pat Cardamone to take the helm.
499
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,720
Cardamone has no idea what he's getting
himself into.
500
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,979
There weren't enough people in the
control room to do the job. And I'm not
501
00:33:20,980 --> 00:33:27,599
really that technical a guy, but the job
really involved doing the jobs of about
502
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,580
four or five different people that are
generally involved in production.
503
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,740
And with Eubanks in control, the
production seems more like controlled
504
00:33:44,830 --> 00:33:48,629
Sometimes I'm too busy coloring the
cameras to be able to hear what the
505
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:52,009
auctioneer is saying. They ask for the
clock, and I don't put the clock up. Put
506
00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:53,230
that clock on. Let's go.
507
00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:58,530
Christine would run back and forth
between the control room and the sound
508
00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:00,510
At some point, I could hear her yelling.
509
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,660
over my headsets, and I knew it was
getting on the air.
510
00:34:03,661 --> 00:34:09,519
And it was either because there was
something going wrong on the phones, or
511
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,999
were putting the wrong artwork up, or
they couldn't find the next piece that
512
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,799
supposed to go up, or because I was
doing something wrong. But as he becomes
513
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,519
more comfortable in the control room,
Tartamone suspects that things aren't
514
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,479
they seem.
515
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,439
It did cross my mind towards the end
that they might be printing up some of
516
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,700
stuff that we're selling.
517
00:34:28,969 --> 00:34:32,948
I asked her what a state sign meant at
one point, and she said, that means that
518
00:34:32,949 --> 00:34:37,669
somebody is authorized by the author's
estate to sign these paintings and to
519
00:34:37,670 --> 00:34:41,408
authenticate them. I didn't know that
she was the one that was signing the
520
00:34:41,409 --> 00:34:42,459
paintings.
521
00:34:42,620 --> 00:34:47,799
By September 2006, investigators have
gathered dozens of pieces of fake
522
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,840
and certificates of authenticity, and
they found nearly $4 million in Eubanks'
523
00:34:52,841 --> 00:34:53,979
personal accounts.
524
00:34:53,980 --> 00:34:57,719
When the personal investment accounts
were located, there were significant
525
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,180
assets that were directly traceable to
the crimes themselves.
526
00:35:01,181 --> 00:35:05,159
Then it was just a matter of putting
that on paper and getting the judge to
527
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,210
off on the warrant.
528
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:10,309
The team finally has enough evidence to
secure search warrants for Christine
529
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:12,430
Eubanks' house and her businesses.
530
00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:18,509
Right around the time of the takedown of
this case, it appeared that the
531
00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:22,810
business was operating more efficiently
than it ever had.
532
00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:25,670
Wow, what a fabulous deal. Next up.
533
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:31,309
Next on American Greed, investigators
pull the plug on Fine Art Treasures
534
00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:32,360
Gallery.
535
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,239
That pursuit of money, that greed,
creates a fog in people where they just
536
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:42,439
care because all they want is as much
money as they can get. And that's when
537
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,970
people make mistakes, and that's where
we strike.
538
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:56,140
September 7, 2006,
539
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,120
Southern California.
540
00:35:58,830 --> 00:36:03,429
More than 60 law enforcement officers
await their cue to execute search
541
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:09,449
on Christine Eubanks' house, her office,
and the Fine Art Treasures Gallery
542
00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:13,889
studio. We had to wait to serve the
search warrants because at the same time
543
00:36:13,890 --> 00:36:18,049
were serving the search warrants, we
were also serving seizure warrants to
544
00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:20,580
freeze bank accounts all throughout the
country.
545
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,820
Once Agent successfully frees those
accounts, the team moves in on Eubanks'
546
00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:31,320
office. When we came in, we were very
shocked and scared.
547
00:36:32,580 --> 00:36:34,990
Not everybody was real cooperative right
away.
548
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,320
I immediately found Christine Eubanks,
and she was working at the time.
549
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,640
True to form, Eubanks is standoffish,
and she lies to Agent Calarco.
550
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,459
Christine Eubanks originally had said
that she was not the owner -operator,
551
00:36:49,460 --> 00:36:50,619
she was just an employee.
552
00:36:50,620 --> 00:36:54,919
When I asked her to identify who the
owner was, she was evasive and wasn't
553
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,500
cooperating. Eubanks is handcuffed just
as Rona Lopez arrives for work.
554
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,260
When I got inside, it was kind of like a
real mess.
555
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,500
They were leading Christine out in
handcuffs. I tried to look her in the
556
00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:10,080
She wouldn't look me in the eye.
557
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:12,080
And, you know, I...
558
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:14,420
It was just all a shock.
559
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,139
Meanwhile, investigators begin the
daunting task of sifting through
560
00:37:21,140 --> 00:37:25,140
evidence. We found all the records of
the business.
561
00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:31,199
We found all the accounting records,
where some of the art was being
562
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,250
from.
563
00:37:32,260 --> 00:37:38,079
We found evidence of certain art that
they were making on scene, pieces of
564
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,580
where people were practicing.
565
00:37:39,581 --> 00:37:44,189
signing artists' names. And so you could
tell that somebody had been working on
566
00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:49,569
it. The team works overnight to catalog
more than 700 pieces of broad -driven
567
00:37:49,570 --> 00:37:51,870
artwork and certificates of
authenticity.
568
00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:57,709
We had to set up an assembly line where
we're taking pictures of each artwork
569
00:37:57,710 --> 00:38:00,350
that went on hour after hour after hour.
570
00:38:05,770 --> 00:38:09,870
The goods are hauled off to this FBI
asset forfeiture warehouse.
571
00:38:10,990 --> 00:38:16,609
Some pieces will be kept as evidence
later for other cases as good examples
572
00:38:16,610 --> 00:38:18,070
fraudulent art.
573
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:24,129
But most of it will actually end up
being destroyed because we don't want
574
00:38:24,130 --> 00:38:25,510
ever to hit the marketplace.
575
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:29,949
And we don't want any more victims to be
generated as a result of this
576
00:38:29,950 --> 00:38:31,000
television show.
577
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,539
Christine Eubanks' own husband, Gerald
Sullivan, and their former partner,
578
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:45,760
Mobley, turn against her and cooperate
with the government.
579
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:51,479
In March 2007, Sullivan pleads guilty to
several conspiracy charges, including
580
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,530
wire fraud.
581
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,760
He's sentenced to four years in prison.
582
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,800
Mobley pleads guilty to felony
conspiracy charges. He gets five years.
583
00:39:00,330 --> 00:39:05,250
And in April 2007, Eubanks pleaded
guilty to conspiracy to commit mail
584
00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:09,709
wire fraud, interstate transportation of
stolen property, and filing a false
585
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:10,760
income tax return.
586
00:39:11,230 --> 00:39:13,710
She's sentenced to seven years in
prison.
587
00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:23,249
In all, the scam brings in more than $20
million from more than 10 ,000 victims
588
00:39:23,250 --> 00:39:24,430
across the country.
589
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:26,270
We cut the head off the snake.
590
00:39:26,271 --> 00:39:30,599
Just putting Christine Eubanks in jail
couldn't really stop the type of conduct
591
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,739
that was going on, but what it could do
was drastically reduce the market for
592
00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:38,630
where those suppliers of fake art could
sell their wares.
593
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:43,499
Once DirecTV and Dish Network learned of
the scam, they pulled the show off the
594
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:49,879
air. Dish Network declined to comment,
but DirecTV says, This programming was
595
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,740
brought to us by a third -party broker.
596
00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:53,840
This was an extremely rare case.
597
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,639
We do our best to protect our customers
by insisting that companies representing
598
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,559
paid programmers affirm that the
producers will conduct their business in
599
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,420
honest and legal manner before we agree
to carry their programming.
600
00:40:08,620 --> 00:40:13,339
The government seizes nearly $4 million
from bank accounts controlled by Eubanks
601
00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:14,239
and Sullivan.
602
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:17,599
They had a nice house and a nice
neighborhood, but it wasn't Beverly
603
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,659
it certainly wasn't a mansion. They were
saving up for a rainy day, it looks
604
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:23,830
like, when they were going to call it
quits.
605
00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:30,449
Director Pat Cardamone still lists Fine
Art Treasures Gallery as a credit on his
606
00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:31,500
resume.
607
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:36,210
Today, he directs televised mass
services at his Pasadena Catholic
608
00:40:36,990 --> 00:40:38,630
Working here is my penance.
609
00:40:39,630 --> 00:40:44,449
I enjoy working with good people. I
enjoy working with honest people. And
610
00:40:44,450 --> 00:40:48,149
much more comfortable working on that
side of the law than working with
611
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:49,200
Christine.
612
00:40:50,670 --> 00:40:56,289
My redemption never got a real Picasso,
but he is ultimately made whole after
613
00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:57,970
losing more than $4 ,000.
614
00:40:58,510 --> 00:41:04,029
I think there's a part of us that are
dreamers and we're looking for something
615
00:41:04,030 --> 00:41:09,669
good to happen to us, for our family. So
some of us take the risk and some
616
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:13,570
don't. I took the risk and got scammed.
617
00:41:15,070 --> 00:41:19,789
Since artist John O 'Brien's death, his
widow Martha has struggled to regain
618
00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:21,690
control of her husband's work.
619
00:41:21,950 --> 00:41:28,589
I was dealing with motions, motions,
motions, and hearings and
620
00:41:28,590 --> 00:41:33,749
depositions and responses and find this
document and find that document and
621
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:37,930
running to lawyer's office. At one point
in time, I had ten lawyers in my life.
622
00:41:38,530 --> 00:41:39,580
Ten.
623
00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:44,869
O 'Brien was part of a lawsuit against
Princess Cruise Lines, which issued this
624
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:50,009
statement. We contacted all purchasers
of the art to disclose there was a
625
00:41:50,010 --> 00:41:54,089
dispute on authorization of the print
edition they purchased, which may
626
00:41:54,090 --> 00:41:58,129
their particular piece, and we offered
refunds if the purchasers wished to
627
00:41:58,130 --> 00:41:59,180
return the art.
628
00:42:01,350 --> 00:42:06,169
She is no longer part of the suit. The
fight against Eubanks becomes too much
629
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:07,310
for O 'Brien to handle.
630
00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:11,530
Now she spends her time authenticating
her husband's work.
631
00:42:11,770 --> 00:42:18,089
They opened the door, and then once the
marketplace was tainted
632
00:42:18,090 --> 00:42:23,849
with the fraud art, and then things
became easy to do on the Internet, I
633
00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:28,589
they just paved the way, and they set an
example to show how easy it was. To
634
00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:32,950
this day, I feel like I'm still fighting
for his life in a different way.
635
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,720
But I'm fighting to keep the legacy
true.
636
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,719
If I don't make it right now, my girls
will grow up and their dad's art will go
637
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:45,799
by the wayside. And what could have been
the dream that he had will never
638
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,849
happen.
639
00:42:46,850 --> 00:42:51,400
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