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He's dealing with a Category 5
controversy involving cash, payments,
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prostitutes. Meet Nevin Shapiro, the man
who kicked off the controversy with
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stunning admissions of gifts to players
and broken NCAA rules.
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He's a hustler. You can tell he's a
hustler.
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A big -time part of the Miami scene,
Shapiro lives a life of tropical
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indulgence. South Beach is known for its
nightlife, yet Mr. Shapiro was known as
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Mr. Big in South Beach.
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He takes in nearly $1 billion with false
promises of huge return.
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The truth was there was no business.
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It was simply money in, money out.
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But the fun can't last forever.
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Ponzi schemes don't have happy endings.
They're not designed to have happy
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endings.
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It's August 2011 in Miami, Florida.
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As day dawns on a new football season,
fans of the University of Miami eagerly
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await their team's debut.
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Miami filmmaker Billy Corbin directed
The U, a documentary about the team.
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In Miami, it's safe to say that fans
have been spoiled in that at the start
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every new season, we've come to
expect...
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that this could be yet another national
championship.
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But this year, from the University of
Southern California to Ohio State
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University, scandals have tainted
college football.
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Little do the Hurricanes' loyal fans
know, the real deluge is about to begin.
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It's the University of Miami's worst
nightmare. The damning result of an 11
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-month investigation by Yahoo Sports.
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In it, convicted Ponzi schemer Nevin
Shapiro claims he gave improper benefits
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at least 72 Hurricanes athletes and
seven coaches.
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The expose makes Nevin Shapiro a well
-known name among sports fans.
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But who is the man who has jeopardized
the future of Miami football?
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And how did he steal the millions that
made it all possible?
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Shapiro tells American Greed it's a
story that involved greed, usury, fraud,
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scandal, and cover -ups.
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Ever the pitchman, he says, you need
eight documentaries to fill this story.
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Born in April 1969 in Brooklyn, New
York, Nevin Shapiro moves at an early
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age to the city he'll make his lifelong
home, Miami, Florida.
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It's often said that Miami is a sunny
place for shady people. Really, the
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state of Florida is and always has been.
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Shapiro is raised by his single mother
and attends Miami Beach High School.
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Linda Jackson is an attorney who now
represents some of Shapiro's lenders.
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also attended Beach High around the same
time as Shapiro.
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There are people there that have a lot
of money, get cars on their 16th
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birthday.
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Nevin was a small guy.
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He didn't come from a family with money,
and he tried to compensate for that.
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In Miami Beach, Shapiro tries to prove
himself based on what Jackson says is
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town's own formula of success.
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It's money and prestige, and nobody
really cares how you got your money.
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In the years to come, Shapiro will
flaunt his newfound wealth and prestige
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many ways.
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But foremost is his association with one
of his oldest interests, sports.
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Nevin was a sports fanatic.
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Not even kind of. Nevin was a sports
fanatic.
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In high school, Shapiro plays basketball
and wrestles, but his real passion is
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football.
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Growing up in Miami in the 1980s, he
witnesses the rise to dominance of the
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Miami Hurricanes.
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There's no question in my mind or
anybody in this room's mind who's the
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one team in America.
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The Miami Hurricanes are the number one
team.
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Miami in the 1980s was the outlaw town,
and the University of Miami Hurricanes
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had a reputation as the outlaw team.
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Even among the Canes' extremely loyal
fan base, Shapiro sticks out.
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You definitely couldn't say anything bad
about the Hurricanes. In Evan's face,
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in his presence, there would be
problems.
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Shapiro attends the University of South
Florida, but never manages to get his
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degree in his chosen field, criminology.
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He reportedly leaves school after
punching a referee in the face during an
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intramural football game.
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Investigative reporter Tim Elfrink wrote
about Shapiro for the Miami New Times
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newspaper. I don't think it's a stretch
from what I've heard about Nevin to
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speculate that he might have some kind
of Napoleon complex going on. I mean, he
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always had an explosive temper.
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The incident on the field is not the
last time Shapiro's temper will get the
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best of him.
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In 1995, while trying to sneak 20
friends into a Miami nightclub on his
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birthday, Shapiro was stopped by the
owner and goes berserk. I've heard from
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people who were there who described it,
just how completely unwarranted it was
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and how brutal and bloody it was.
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Shapiro punches the club owner so hard
it knocks out part of a front tooth and
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destroys his tear duct.
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To writer Tim Elfrink, it's a defining
moment for the con man.
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He thought he had the power and the
connections to get them in this place.
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when he got caught, he just he lashed
out. He lost it.
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In the years to come, Shapiro will
ensure he has the wealth to afford him
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into any club in Miami Beach. You know,
when Shapiro shows up, he walks right
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into the nightclub and gets the best
table.
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And there it is. You know, that's what
it's about.
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Getting there is still a few years off.
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Shapiro first dips his toes into the
world of exclusivity when his mother
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marries a man named Richard Armand Adam.
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Adam eventually moves the family to a
Tony mansion and has a yacht. But he
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has a secret.
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The first time he experienced real
wealth and this real change in living,
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through a pretty sophisticated white
-collar crime.
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Adam will later serve time for running a
complicated multi -million dollar
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lending fraud.
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As events will show, Shapiro fails to
learn the lesson that crime doesn't pay.
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It's hard to believe he didn't learn
something from Adam or at least get some
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idea of how this might work.
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When Shapiro leaves college, he begins
work at a grocery diverting company
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called Atlantic Wholesale in 1993.
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Diverting involves purchasing already
sold products at a low price in one
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then reselling them somewhere else at a
profit.
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Kay Balby works with Shapiro on the
sales floor at Atlantic.
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Well, he had this cute little innocent
face, but there was this power behind
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him. It was almost like he was bigger
than life.
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He reminded me of maybe Doogie Howser
and Arnold Schwarzenegger wrapped into
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one. From the outset, Shapiro already
seems to have his sights set high.
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He just always looked like, you know, he
was ready to close a deal. He was cocky
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and confident at the same time.
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When making a sale, Shapiro has more
than just good deals to offer.
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He was a statistical genius in terms of
sports.
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He could start talking sports right away
and instantly connect with that person
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on the other end of the phone.
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If his home life is tainted by fraud, so
is the profession he finds himself in.
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In 1996, 36 people working for another
South Florida diverter, Premium Sales,
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are charged with running a massive
investment scheme.
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Michael Goldberg is a Fort Lauderdale
lawyer who represents some of Shapiro's
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victims. He's an expert on Ponzi
schemes.
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I can't imagine anyone could be in the
diverting industry that did not know of
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premium sales because it was one of the
largest Ponzi schemes of its time.
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It's not long before Shapiro is running
a scheme that follows closely in premium
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sales nefarious footsteps.
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Thanks to our real lack of institutional
memory in Miami, Nevin Shapiro was
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literally able to pick up that scam
where they left off several years later.
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Nevin Shapiro grows up amidst the wealth
and decadence of Miami in the 1980s and
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90s. At home and at work, fraud is never
far away.
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And when it comes time to start his own
scheme, it seems like he's in the
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perfect place.
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Miami is not an old money kind of a
town. It's not like New England. It's a
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place where people can come in with a
name that no one knows and a lot of
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and throw it around and they're
instantly accepted by society at large.
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After leaving college, Shapiro heads
home to Miami and enters the grocery
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diverting business in 1993.
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Five years later, he opens his own
diverting company, Capital Investments
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The company purportedly buys low -priced
groceries in one market, then ships
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them elsewhere to be sold at a profit.
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Paul Fishman is the United States
Attorney for the District of New Jersey.
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There's an opportunity in that line of
work, as in others, for somebody who is
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savvy businessman or businesswoman to
make a pretty decent profit on the
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between what they can buy stuff for and
what they can sell it for.
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Shapiro pitches capital investments as
an international diverter.
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There's big money to be made in overseas
deals, he says, but to get at the
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profits, he needs investor financing.
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It's a very simple story to tell the
investor, something they can easily
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understand. for short -term bridge
loans.
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The key was to offer not only the high
rate of return, which was attractive,
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that they also would turn around the
investment very quickly. So it gave the
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impression that not only was there big
money to be made, but it was also fast
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money. With the return Shapiro is
offering, investors and their money come
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rolling in.
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Some lenders Shapiro brings in himself
through connections in Miami.
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Others... including those who will
eventually go to the Federal Bureau of
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Investigation, hail from New Jersey.
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But the lion's share comes to him via
Naples, Florida.
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Nevin Shapiro went to Naples for the
same reason that Bernie Madoff went to
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Beach and Willie Sutton robbed banks,
because that's where the money is.
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Situated on Florida's Gulf Coast, Naples
is a migratory zone for Midwestern
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snowbirds looking for a warm place to
spend their retirement.
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The picturesque town lies a two -hour
drive across Alligator Alley from Miami.
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But it might as well be a million miles
away.
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I think if you were to take a photograph
of the city of Miami and then look at
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the negative, it would look a lot like
Naples.
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With a distinctly Latin flair, Miami is
young and flashy.
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Naples, on the other hand, is filled
with retirees and has a decidedly
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-down country club feel.
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An abundance of investment firms line
Naples' main track, competing to help
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wealthy retirees grow their nest eggs.
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Shapiro wants in on the action.
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But far from home and very out of his
element, he needs an inside man to pitch
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capital investments.
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The story told itself well, but I don't
think that the flash of Miami Beach
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would sell too well in Naples directly.
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Shapiro wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes.
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with the Naples community.
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In 2003, he meets the man who will grant
him entree into this world of
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affluence, Sidney Jack Williams.
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Jack was one of the Naples people.
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He was their neighbor. He played golf
with them. He belonged to the same
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club. He knew them and he was embedded
in that community.
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Williams is a successful real estate
investor who hails from Indianapolis,
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Indiana.
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On his company's website, he boasts of
doing real estate deals across the
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country worth more than a billion
dollars.
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By the end of 2003, he's invested $3 .5
million with Shapiro.
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It's not long before he becomes capital
investment's main pitch man.
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Jack's neighbors saw him driving fancy
cars and living a very nice lifestyle.
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And when he told the story of how he was
doing it, making money on this
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diverting operation in Miami, it
attracted his neighbors who wanted in on
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great investment.
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Many of the investors Williams brings in
live in and around Indianapolis.
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Some are fraternity brothers from his
days at Ball State University in Muncie,
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Indiana. People considered him their
friend. They trusted him. It was not
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calling Smith Barney and saying, I want
to buy a stock.
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These are informal deals. They're pretty
much done in the clubhouse after a
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round of golf.
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Williams says that an investment in
Shapiro's diversion deals is a, quote,
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-brainer. In some cases, he offers a
personal guarantee.
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In all, he brings in 60 investors and
$307 million.
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In emails to Shapiro, he refers to
himself as the Bank of Naples.
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And like a bank, Williams charges fees.
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His friends don't know he's paid for
everyone he brings in and eventually
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pockets $12 million in commissions.
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If Williams brings lenders in, Shapiro
knows just how to keep them happy.
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And by 2004, the need to do just that is
growing.
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That year, Capital Investments begins
operating in a loss.
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Just why remains uncertain.
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Shapiro's lawyer claims that around this
time, her client begins sinking money
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into a business deal that goes bad.
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Shapiro tells American Greed, I got
robbed myself for $25 million, which
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my derailment.
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I really don't know of a Ponzi scheme
operator that actually just says, I'm
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going into it for the Ponzi.
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They get behind and they just can't
admit.
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that they're messing up, and they double
down. And then they lose on that double
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down, and it's over.
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In order to hide his losses, Shapiro
needs to bring in more and more new
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investors to pay off the old investors.
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And it seems he knows just how to do it.
He was a charismatic guy.
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He could deliver a sales pitch, you
know, and he could definitely reassure
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that your money was safe.
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Shapiro assures investors that putting
their money in capital investments is
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risk -free.
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And if his words aren't enough, he has
plenty of documentation to prove it.
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There was a lot of paper, serious paper,
legitimate -looking paper, that
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suggested that this business was not
only real but extraordinarily
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But it's all fake.
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Making up financial statements nowadays
is not an awful lot harder than a click
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of a mouse.
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Shapiro has his accountant and his CFO,
a father and son team made up of
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Alejandro and Roberto Torres, help him
create these false documents.
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They put together multiple invoices
showing purported deals between Capital
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Investments and other companies that
investor dollars are supposedly
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Tax filings claim that Capital
Investments has gross sales in 2006 of
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million.
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That was $54 million more in sales than
he actually had.
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The real number is zero.
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From 2005 through the end of 2009,
capital investments does no real
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But in Naples and elsewhere, that
doesn't keep lenders from receiving
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believe to be interest payments.
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The interest was not interest at all.
The money that was being paid to
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was actually money from other investors.
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It was simply money in, money out.
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Capital investments is a Ponzi scheme,
plain and simple. In all, Shapiro will
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raise more than $930 million in investor
funds.
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It's 2005 in Miami Beach, Florida, and
Nevin Shapiro's grocery diverting scam
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in full swing.
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From nearby Naples to Indianapolis,
Indiana, there's no shortage of people
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want in on his so -called grocery
diverting deal.
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His lenders are happy. From what I'm
told, they got their money to the day,
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the minute, on time.
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Investors who are getting paid off are
satisfied investors, and satisfied
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investors generally don't complain.
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Investors aren't the only people making
money at Capital Investments USA.
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He was diverting just enough of that
incoming money to satisfy the demands of
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his investors. Otherwise, he was using
it just for his own personal use.
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Shapiro's take eventually adds up to a
cool $35 million.
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And he's not afraid to spend it.
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South Beach is known for its nightlife,
yet Mr. Shapiro was known as Mr. Big in
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South Beach.
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The lifestyle that he was leading was
pretty open and notoriously glamorous.
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At the center of that lifestyle, it's
the perfect place to entertain.
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You came in, you and you were his guest.
You can pretty much have whatever you
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wanted, you know, tons and tons of
beautiful women.
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Like it was like utopia.
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Outside the mansion, Shapiro parks a
Mercedes S65 AMG on which he makes a
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monthly payment of forty seven hundred
dollars.
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And I have to admit that when I actually
saw that in the draft charging
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documents, I thought it was a mistake
because I didn't know you could lease a
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car for forty seven hundred dollars a
month.
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On the weekend, there's a doc that's
just right for tying up his 58 -foot, $1
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million yacht.
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He was almost living the stereotype of
Miami Wells, the rich playboy in South
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Beach that, you know, maybe goes all the
way back to Miami Vice.
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The same year he buys his mansion,
Shapiro also picks up a condo in the
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He invests $7 million in a North
Carolina golf course.
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and he blows through cash like a man
obsessed.
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He pays credit card bills for himself,
his mother, and his girlfriend that
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amount to more than $2 .2 million.
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On top of this, he shells out more than
$100 ,000 a year for courtside seats to
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watch the Miami Heat.
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It's here that he sits near the team's
resident entertainer, DJ Irie, and rubs
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elbows with Miami's A -list.
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Prominent business people, politicians,
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You name it. He would usually know who's
around him and say what's up. And if he
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didn't, by the end of the game, he knew
them.
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A world -renowned turntablist, DJ Ivory
is a fixture on the South Beach
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nightlife scene.
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On the left here is Mansion Nightclub,
where they just do these huge, massive
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celebrity jumping parties.
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Singers, rappers, actors, actresses.
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huge sports figures, you name it.
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Nevin would actually come to Mansion.
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At one point, he was there almost every
weekend.
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He'd have one of the best areas in the
club. No matter what club he went to,
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he'd have one of the best areas because
the clubs all knew that when Nevin was
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there, he was going to spend money.
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Nevin had achieved unparalleled access.
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He had the kind of access that not many
other people had.
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Shapiro also obtains access to the A
-list celebrities that not many other
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people meet.
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It's reported that he entertains Miami
Heat star Dwayne Wade on his yacht.
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He also has a picture of Shaquille O
'Neal holding him above his head and
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reportedly gives the Heat star player a
pair of diamond -encrusted handcuffs as
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a gift.
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Not quite 40, Shapiro has the keys to
the kingdom.
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He's the American dream.
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You know, he's made it. He's enjoying
the finer things in life. And he's
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it with the people that he cares about.
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One recipient of Shapiro's largesse is
the athletics program at his beloved
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University of Miami.
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Inside the Hecht Athletic Center, the
con artist gets his name on the Nevin
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Shapiro Student Athlete Lounge.
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He becomes a golden cane and gives $130
,000 to the school's athletics program.
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Documentary filmmaker Billy Corbin reads
from the inscription on a plaque that
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once hung inside.
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Despite the fact that he attended
college outside of Miami, his heart has
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bled green and orange.
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For the tremendous philanthropic support
he provides, the University of Miami is
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proud to name the Student Athlete Lounge
after Nevin Shapiro.
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What kind of message does that send, not
only to the student athletes, but the
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athletic director, the head coaches, the
assistant coaches, about the kind of
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access that this man has bought and has
been granted.
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Shapiro's philanthropy is on display in
one famous picture of the school's
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president, Donna Shalala, accepting a
$50 ,000 check from him.
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The old saying is, as long as the
champagne is flowing and the checks are
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clearing, nobody asks any questions.
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But Shapiro's checks come with a price.
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He was someone who felt like that his
contributions to the university gave him
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the right to have a lot of control and
be able to associate with whoever and
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whenever he wanted.
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It's not until his Ponzi scheme unravels
that the depth of his association with
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Miami's athletes and coaches is
revealed.
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For now, though, potential investors see
Shapiro as the embodiment of success.
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They see that you're living a high life,
that you seem to be successful, and
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they start to equate that with the
credibility of the investment itself.
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Amidst all the flaunting, there is one
way Shapiro spends money that the public
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doesn't see.
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He liked to bet, and he didn't do all
that well.
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My sources, who were pretty close to
Nevin, told me that most weekends he
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bet $25 ,000 apiece on several different
games, and sometimes more than that.
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Shapiro's own lawyer will later tally
his gambling losses at $9 million.
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That may have been fueling the scheme,
too, just this constant need for new
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to keep paying his debts and keep
gambling.
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Despite his less -than -stellar track
record...
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Shapiro will later say some investors
look to him for betting tips.
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And why not? He seems to be a guy who
can't lose.
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In 2008, money from investors is
flooding into Shapiro's company and
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straight back out as supposed interest
payments.
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That year, he moves a whopping $616
million into and out of Capital
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bank account.
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He says that when his accountant sees
the numbers, she responds with three
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simple words.
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What the?
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It's the end of 2008.
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Across the country, financial tides are
turning.
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And the biggest Ponzi scheme ever is
revealed.
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Welcome back. It is official. The U .S.
economy is. The word is that the street
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remains at this moment shell -shocked.
You have a lot of wealthy investors who
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thought they had $50 million in net
worth. Most of it was made up. They wake
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today to realize they had no money.
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For Miami's Nevin Shapiro, the end is
drawing near.
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People are starting to question, well,
if the economy is collapsing, how can my
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investment be doing well?
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When the economy goes bad, when credit
is harder to get, when people have less
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money to spend, Ponzi schemes tend to
fall apart faster because it's harder
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the people who are perpetrating them to
maintain the facade.
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As the financial system implodes,
questions arise.
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And Shapiro does not have the money to
pay his lenders.
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He is, in part, a victim of his own
lavish lifestyle.
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He was so heavily leveraged and was
spending the money so fast that only one
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investor who said, hey, give me my money
back right now, caused this to start to
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unravel.
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At first, Shapiro falls behind in making
so -called interest payments.
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As 2008 turns into 2009, investors begin
to ask questions, and Shapiro offers a
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litany of excuses.
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His accountant was on vacation and he
couldn't get... The paperwork done.
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It was a bookkeeping error, and they'd
send the check right out. We didn't get
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paid from the company that was supposed
to pay us for the delivery of goods.
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People heard different things at
different times.
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Shapiro's smooth talking works
temporarily, and lenders allow him to
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payments. The con man uses the time he
buys to try to find new money, but no
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is willing to pony up.
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He just stopped being able to pay off
his investors, and eventually investors
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started to complain.
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From Naples to Indianapolis, investors
start to wonder if their money is tied
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in a Ponzi scheme.
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When they ask Shapiro for their money
back, they're met with more stalling.
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By June, legal threats are heading
Shapiro's way.
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The man at the helm of capital
investments starts making desperate
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In July, he begins selling off jewelry.
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The next month, he gives one investor
the keys to his condo in the Bahamas.
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But nothing can stave off the
inevitable.
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The problem with the Ponzi scheme is
there's really not an exit strategy.
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Eventually, it has to come to a halt.
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In November 2009, a group of lenders
filed papers in Miami, forcing Shapiro's
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company into bankruptcy.
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In the words of the trustee, the capital
investment scheme comes to a screeching
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halt.
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Eventually, creditors will claim that
Shapiro owes them more than $120
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By now, though, his problems extend far
beyond the question of how to pay
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creditors back.
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Prior to the bankruptcy, an unidentified
investor from New Jersey goes to the
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FBI in Newark, saying he's lost $500
,000.
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Word started to spread among investors
with capital investments that the FBI
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Newark were conducting an investigation.
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So very quickly, it went from a $500
,000 loss to almost a $32 million loss.
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Agents from the FBI, led by Michael
Ward, and the IRS Criminal Investigation
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Division, led by Victor Lesov, get to
work.
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He was just saying, invest this in the
deal. Yeah, you made 17%. How do you
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to reinvest it and do it again? And many
of them worked. They dig into the reams
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of paper backing up Shapiro's claims
that capital investments was a going
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concern.
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A key piece of evidence comes in the
form of invoices.
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that Shapiro created with his CFO and
accountant's father and son, Roberto and
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Alejandro Torres.
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Capital Investments apparently created a
false invoice with a real company's
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name on it.
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We were able to take those invoices back
to that company, interview them, and
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corroborate that this, in fact, is a
false invoice.
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We look at one false invoice, that gives
us a rise to question whether or not
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there are other false invoices.
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And as the investigation continued,
that's exactly what we found.
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found that there was no ongoing business
concern associated with capital
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investments.
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Shapiro's financial house of cards is
about to come tumbling down.
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I believe the first person that was
interviewed was Roberto Torres, the
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financial officer, who immediately
admitted that there is no legitimate
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going on here.
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And in each subsequent interview we
would do after that, we would receive
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same story.
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Eventually, agents questioned the man at
the top of capital investments, Nevin
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Shapiro.
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After running the company for more than
a decade, it seems that he's grown tired
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of spinning lies and deceit. At the
first interview with Nevin Shapiro, he
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admitted that there was no legitimate
business associated with capital
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investments.
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In April 2010, the Miami businessman
surrenders to FBI and IRS agents in
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He's charged with securities fraud and
money laundering.
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On April 21st, he makes his first
appearance in court.
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Mr. Shapiro, we're here today for an
initial appearance.
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Can the government kindly advise the
defendant what he's charged with and the
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potential penalties he faces?
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Yes, Your Honor. The defendant is
charged with a two -count complaint
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alleges a broad -based scheme to defraud
numerous investors of approximately
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$880 million.
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So do I understand what you're charged
with and the potential penalties that
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face?
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Yes. Okay.
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Though he does not sound happy to find
himself before a judge, Shapiro
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00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,060
reportedly tells his attorney he's glad
the scheme has come to an end.
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00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:52,039
Months later, he pleads guilty to one
count of securities fraud and one count
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00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,090
money laundering.
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00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,279
Shapiro admits to running the massive
Ponzi scheme and using the scam to fund
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00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,420
his big shot lifestyle.
456
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,239
He also admits that he used investor
money to give student athletes cash and
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00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,700
jewelry and feted them in Miami
restaurants and clubs.
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00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:15,059
Supporters of the Miami Hurricanes worry
about the repercussions of Shapiro's
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00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:21,819
admissions. At the fan, they were very
depressing because no one knew
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00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,230
what the ultimate consequence could be
of this.
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00:30:24,780 --> 00:30:31,679
When American Greed returns, feeling
alone and forsaken, Shapiro tells all in
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00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,850
attempt to bring down the Miami
hurricane.
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00:30:34,460 --> 00:30:39,859
At the end of the day, if things aren't
going his way, if through everything, I
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00:30:39,860 --> 00:30:41,920
don't care. You know, it's about me.
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00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,280
In September 2010,
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00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:49,760
Nevin Shapiro pleads guilty in New
Jersey to running a massive Ponzi
467
00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:54,100
Nine months later, he returns to court
for sentencing.
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00:30:54,890 --> 00:31:00,029
In arguing for leniency, his lawyer asks
the judge to consider that her client
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00:31:00,030 --> 00:31:01,650
has an immense gambling problem.
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00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:06,809
She also claims that Shapiro perpetrated
his fraud to keep capital investments
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00:31:06,810 --> 00:31:10,090
afloat after losing millions in a deal
gone bad.
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00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:12,670
The judge doesn't buy it.
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00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:18,689
People get into debt in all sorts of
ways, and there are lots of legal and
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00:31:18,690 --> 00:31:22,230
responsible ways for people to deal with
that. It is not an excuse.
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00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,059
if you're in debt for whatever reason,
to go out and rip people off to the tune
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00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:28,960
here of $80 or $90 million.
477
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,099
The judge sentences Shapiro to 20 years
in prison and orders him to pay $82
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00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,720
million in restitution.
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00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,880
To this day, Shapiro's level of
contrition is questionable.
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00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,939
In emails to American Greed, he says
that sometimes you are forced to plead
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00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:51,010
guilty on something that you don't
believe you are guilty of.
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00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,780
But Shapiro's story doesn't end there.
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00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,400
The con man's life has undergone a
massive change.
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00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,780
He once inhabited a palatial mansion and
sat courtside at heat games.
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00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:11,439
Now he makes his home in a small cell
where game time seating options are
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00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,490
limited.
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00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,420
Inside, there's plenty of time to sit
and think.
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00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:21,779
You have to remember, prison is a really
lonely and depressing place, especially
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00:32:21,780 --> 00:32:25,380
for the type of personality that Nevin
Shapiro is.
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00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,159
Here's someone who spent a lot of money,
lavish gifts on individuals, and then
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00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,859
when he thought that, okay, now that I'm
in trouble, I need you to step up and
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00:32:32,860 --> 00:32:36,739
help me, when these people failed to do
that, I do think that it had an impact
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00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:37,790
on him.
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00:32:38,380 --> 00:32:43,759
Facing 20 years, Shapiro begins to seek
revenge on those he once considered to
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00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,810
be his friends.
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00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:50,570
His most intense ire is reserved for his
once beloved University of Miami.
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00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:57,570
In August 2011, the bomb the Hurricanes
football fans feared finally drops.
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00:32:57,790 --> 00:33:02,629
The mighty Miami Hurricanes dealing with
a Category 5 controversy involving
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00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:06,710
cash, payments, and prostitutes that
threatens to bring down the team.
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00:33:07,790 --> 00:33:13,029
Yahoo Sports conducts a massive eight
-month investigation into alleged NCAA
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00:33:13,030 --> 00:33:16,730
violations involving Shapiro and the
University of Miami.
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00:33:18,090 --> 00:33:22,610
Shapiro tells reporter Charles Robinson
that over the course of eight years,
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00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:27,709
he's provided 72 college athletes,
mostly from Miami, with benefits that
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00:33:27,710 --> 00:33:29,210
violated NCAA rules.
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00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:35,159
He claims he's provided them with cash,
meals, clothes, and jewelry. He says
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00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,079
he's partied with them at his mansion,
on his yacht, and in nightclubs and
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00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,459
joints. He even says he's provided
prostitutes for players and in one case
508
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:45,510
for an abortion.
509
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,660
What's more, he accuses members of the
school's athletic staff with complicity.
510
00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:54,660
Back in Miami, the story drops with a
thud.
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00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,720
That's even louder than the original
story of his massive Ponzi scheme.
512
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,919
This was the guy that was just always so
cool, you know, and always just a
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00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,840
really nice guy to me. Like, when that
story broke, I was just disgusted.
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00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,260
I was absolutely disgusted.
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00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,340
Some Hurricanes fans, like Billy Corbin,
choose to downplay the report.
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00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,100
Corbin says Shapiro's photos prove
nothing.
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00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:26,339
It appeared to me that the Yahoo Sports
writers did a 11 -month extensive
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00:34:26,340 --> 00:34:29,980
investigation of University of Miami
students' Facebook pictures.
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00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:35,658
But Yahoo says they've corroborated
Shapiro's claims with other sources, as
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00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:37,860
as reams of phone and financial records.
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00:34:37,861 --> 00:34:41,178
From what I saw, they did their
homework, you know. I don't think they
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00:34:41,179 --> 00:34:42,979
Nevin was telling them at face value.
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00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,659
Still, many ask, why trust a con man?
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00:34:46,660 --> 00:34:49,979
I don't think you should draw the
conclusion that simply because someone
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00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:52,510
convicted felon, he or she shouldn't be
believed.
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00:34:53,060 --> 00:34:58,199
Weeks after the story breaks, the NCAA
suspends eight players for taking gifts
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00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,250
from Shapiro.
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00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,939
The University of Miami says in a
statement it is fully cooperating with
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00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:06,720
NCAA and is conducting a joint
investigation.
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00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,639
Michael Ward of the FBI sees the players
Shapiro courted not so much as co
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00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,240
-conspirators but as victims.
532
00:35:15,241 --> 00:35:19,439
Nevin Shapiro is a manipulator. I mean,
he was able to seduce investors with a
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00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,520
promise of large dollar amounts.
534
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,220
And then he turns those same seduction
techniques and he turns them on to 18,
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00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,319
19, 20 year olds offering them gifts and
parties and sex. And I mean, those are
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00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,390
tools of seduction that have been used
going back centuries.
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00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,340
For reporter Tim Elfring.
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00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,660
Shapiro's desire for revenge harkens
back to an earlier episode in his life.
539
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,079
I go back to that incident when he was a
young man in South Beach and soccer
540
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,659
punched this club owner. You know, I
think his instinct was to worm his way
541
00:35:52,660 --> 00:35:56,390
as a power player as best he could. And
when things went wrong, he lashed out.
542
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,720
Shapiro himself says the story isn't
over.
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00:36:00,510 --> 00:36:04,289
He tells American Greed that the
incident with the University of Miami
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00:36:04,290 --> 00:36:08,350
become, quote, an urban legend by the
time it all shakes out.
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00:36:09,350 --> 00:36:14,509
When American Greed returns, investors
wait it out to see if they'll get any of
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00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:15,560
their money back.
547
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:19,849
Yet people in their 60s and 70s are now
moving in with their children because
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00:36:19,850 --> 00:36:21,650
they can no longer afford their home.
549
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:28,550
In the summer of 2011, Devin Shapiro was
sentenced to 20 years in prison.
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00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,660
for running a $930 million Ponzi scheme.
551
00:36:32,580 --> 00:36:39,099
Shapiro admits that the company he
started in 1998, Capital Investment USA,
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00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:42,040
no real business between 2005 and 2009.
553
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,740
But when did his fraud actually start?
554
00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:52,319
Shapiro tells American Greed that he was
loaded legitimately and that he made a
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00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,880
lot of people a lot of money.
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00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:59,639
But according to the FBI's Michael Ward,
from the outset, fraud is hardwired
557
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,240
into the DNA of Shapiro's business
operations.
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00:37:03,380 --> 00:37:07,539
Now there were periods of time where
there was some legitimate business being
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00:37:07,540 --> 00:37:12,299
conducted, but it was not a viable
business opportunity in that they were
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00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:16,759
out returns to investors that far
exceeded the legitimate business income
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00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,810
could be generated.
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00:37:18,460 --> 00:37:25,259
In 2011, Shapiro's accountant and his
CFO, a father and son named Alejandro
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00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:30,390
Roberto Torres, also plead guilty to one
count each of securities fraud.
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00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:33,470
They are both sentenced to four years in
prison.
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00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:36,570
Then, in September 2011,
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00:37:37,330 --> 00:37:41,050
Sidney Jack Williams pleads guilty to
filing a false tax return.
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00:37:41,410 --> 00:37:48,309
He admits he failed to declare $6 .4
million in commissions Shapiro paid him
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00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:49,390
signing up investors.
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00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:52,010
He's sentenced to a year in prison.
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00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:56,889
To this day, no one can say just how
much Williams, who had his own money
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00:37:56,890 --> 00:37:59,910
invested in the scam, knew about the
Ponzi.
572
00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:05,309
It's hard to believe that he did not
know that it was a Ponzi scheme at some
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00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:08,560
point. I don't necessarily know that he
knew it was a Ponzi scheme.
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00:38:08,561 --> 00:38:10,449
Could he have put his head in the sand?
575
00:38:10,450 --> 00:38:14,430
Sure. For many, the con has taken a
heavy toll.
576
00:38:14,431 --> 00:38:18,369
You have people in their 60s and 70s who
are now moving in with their children
577
00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:20,669
because they can no longer afford their
homes.
578
00:38:20,670 --> 00:38:21,449
They're retired.
579
00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:22,459
They're ready to...
580
00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:25,719
live out their years out there and
they're now they're destitute they're
581
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:31,839
people um are out 82 million dollars and
that's money that they may never get
582
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:38,079
back one investor in indiana writes the
bankruptcy judge saying he lost his life
583
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:44,379
savings 190 000 he says he's now sick
broke and facing
584
00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:50,869
foreclosure the bankruptcy trustee
continues his attempt to get back money
585
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:52,190
this victim and others.
586
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:59,069
So far, he's recovered $19 million,
including $130 ,000 that Shapiro donated
587
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:00,270
the University of Miami.
588
00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:06,049
In addition, the university has also
agreed to pay back $83 ,000 for money
589
00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:09,390
Shapiro gave directly to current and
former athletes.
590
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:12,850
The challenge of recovering more
continues.
591
00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:17,669
The trouble is compounded by the playboy
lifestyle on which Shapiro lavishly
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00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:18,720
spent his money.
593
00:39:18,970 --> 00:39:23,410
you can't retrieve money spent at strip
clubs. So those are just lost assets.
594
00:39:24,850 --> 00:39:29,389
Meanwhile, the NCAA continues to
investigate Shapiro's involvement with
595
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:30,440
University of Miami.
596
00:39:31,770 --> 00:39:34,470
The con man sits in a cell in Louisiana.
597
00:39:36,350 --> 00:39:40,130
To those who were taken by Shapiro, a
question remains.
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00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:43,230
Why did the fraudster do what he did?
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00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:48,079
If I had to boil it down into one word,
I believe that Devin Shapiro's primary
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00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,160
motivation was greed.
601
00:39:49,161 --> 00:39:52,919
I think he was the kind of guy that was
ultimately probably more interested in
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00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,499
power and prestige than he was in the
money. And I don't know what motivated
603
00:39:56,500 --> 00:40:00,679
him, but in the end, whatever risks he
decided to run, whatever calculations he
604
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,510
decided to make, turned out to be a
really bad bet for him.
605
00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:08,720
In Miami Beach, Shapiro's wealth and
free spending once opened every door.
606
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:13,439
But after the scam and the Yahoo Sports
investigation through which Shapiro
607
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,380
attempted to bring down the U, the con
man, is no longer king.
608
00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:22,550
In the core of Nevin Shapiro, he's
someone that looks out for himself.
609
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,739
And at the end of the day, if things
aren't going his way, it's screw
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00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:27,790
everything.
611
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,299
I don't care. It's about me, you know?
And that's not the Nevin that I thought
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00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:33,349
knew.
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00:40:33,350 --> 00:40:37,900
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