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This is a CNBC original.
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In this episode of American Greed, one
man's bold scheme to get rich quick.
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The opportunity was there for them to
make easy money.
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Albert Talton puts a modern twist on one
of the nation's oldest crimes, making
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counterfeit money.
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This one was different because this was
just a computer and several printers
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that were utilized to print this large
amount of counterfeits.
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Dalton circulates more than $7 million
in phony cash around the globe.
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He was almost proud of what he'd done,
his perverted version of the American
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dream. And launches the U .S. Secret
Service into the largest manhunt of its
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kind. Secret Service kicked in the door.
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They rushed in, guns drawn.
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Whenever a new strain of counterfeit U
.S. currency is discovered, samples are
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sent to this high -security government
facility in Washington, D .C., and
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in a room known as the specimen vault.
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Basically, our goal is to stay one step
ahead of the counterfeiter.
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Few people are allowed inside this room,
but American Greed has given an
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exclusive tour.
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Here, in this archive of counterfeit
money, forgeries are cataloged and
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like fingerprints in a criminal
database.
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This would be an example of a pretty
high -quality counterfeit of our current
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style of 100 that's in circulation.
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The knowledge gained from studying these
bogus bills is part of the government's
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ongoing war against counterfeiting.
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At the front line is the U .S. Secret
Service.
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The organization is best known for
protecting the president, but the
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original mandate was to safeguard our
money.
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The service was created in 1865.
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when roughly one half of all U .S.
currency was counterfeit and the
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economy was buckling. So this would be
an example of one of our earliest
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counterfeits, dates from the late 1800s.
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Over the years, the Secret Service has
succeeded in stamping out illegal print
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shops at home and abroad.
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Today, the number of counterfeits in
circulation is less than a fraction of
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percent. But businesses and consumers
still face the dangers of fake money.
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Counterfeit is like a hot potato.
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The person who's left holding it is the
one who actually loses.
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You don't get reimbursed if you find out
you actually have a counterfeit 20 on
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you and you take it into the bank.
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You're not going to say, oh, I'm sorry
for your loss. Here's a genuine 20 to
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replace it.
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Counterfeits can pass undetected from
customers to stores and back again.
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Most forgeries aren't spotted until the
money turns up at the bank. That's when
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the Secret Service is called into
action.
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In 2005, the Los Angeles field office
uncovers a new strain of counterfeit
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currency. The bills are sent to the
government specimen vault for Kelly
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inspection.
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Forensic examination shows that it was
made with recycled newsprint.
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Computerized enlargements reveal the
tiny dots characteristic of inkjet
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printers.
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Counterfeits made with ordinary consumer
technology are usually poor imitations,
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but this bill is in a class by itself.
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An untrained eye could easily mistake
this for the real thing. At first
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the details appear crisp and clear.
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It seems to have the right color,
weight, and feel.
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I would say from a quality perspective
and the level of effort that was put
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this particular type of counterfeit that
he was producing, that you were dealing
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with an above -average quality
counterfeit operation, especially from a
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perspective.
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And that spells trouble for the agency.
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High -grade counterfeits are usually
made the old -fashioned way, with
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plates and printing presses.
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That type of setup is hard to conceal,
but a digital counterfeit operation can
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be almost invisible.
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Computers and inkjet printers don't take
up a lot of space.
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Nowadays, because the machines are so
small, it can be anywhere from
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living room or bedroom, even the
backseat of a car. If they're just using
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those all -in -one devices, they don't
even need a computer attached.
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Finding the printer behind this new
breed of counterfeit will be like
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needle in a haystack.
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Special Agent Christopher Toledo from
the L .A. Counterfeit Squad tracks this
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growing number of forgeries.
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It was very minimal at that time, you
know, 20 to 30 per week at the very
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By the end of the year, it was in the
hundreds per week.
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And most of the passing activity here in
Los Angeles was in and around the
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downtown area.
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Over the next two years, the number of
counterfeit $100 bills skyrockets.
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The money bleeds from the L .A. area
into the rest of the country.
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Losses reported by retailers and private
citizens total hundreds of thousands of
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dollars each month.
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Secret Service Special Agent Matthew
Mayo is part of the Los Angeles
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squad. Because of Mayo's ongoing
undercover work, he cannot be shown on
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The Secret Service worked multiple
investigations on this case and arrested
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people in this case that just couldn't
lead us to the manufacturer.
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Less than 20 miles from the L .A. field
office in Lawndale, California, the
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counterfeiter is hard at work in his
secret print shop.
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His name is Albert Talton.
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The 44 -year -old has built a
sophisticated counterfeiting ring made
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trusted friends.
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Talton's pal, David Goldberg, is
enlisted to help make the build.
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In a telephone interview, Goldberg
explains how he got involved.
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I just happened to come by the house.
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to play chess with him one day and
looked up and there in the oven was
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I'm like, why do you have money in the
oven?
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And that's how I actually found out
about it because he hadn't even told me
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about it.
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Initially, I believe he offered me $60
an hour to help him put it together.
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Next in the ranks of Talton's
distribution chain are two friends who
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brokers selling the counterfeits.
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Troy Stroud, who's already been in
trouble with the law, is one of Talton's
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dealers. They had a long -standing
relationship.
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I believe they actually emanated in
prison.
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And once they both got out, they kind of
reunited, reunited in this conspiracy
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as it may be.
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Paul McCorry is another Talton broker.
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He and Albert have been best friends
since about the age of 17, 18 years old.
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For the most part, he never really did
dirt with any of us for the longest time
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until this last case.
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Talton's distribution system works like
illegal drug trafficking.
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Stroud and McCrory buy the counterfeit
money from Talton for roughly $15 per
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$100 bill. The money moves to lower
-level brokers who sell it again at a
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price. So it goes until the bill winds
up.
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in the pocket of someone who spends it
in a store.
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That person has paid as much as $50 for
the fake $100.
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The system keeps the money from being
traced back to Talton.
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Some of the other players, as you start
going down the pyramid of distribution,
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really did not know Mr. Talton. I mean,
there were second -tier, third -tier
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operations of distribution that had
nothing to do with Mr. Talton, had no
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knowledge of him.
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At the end of the distribution chain are
many of L .A.'s gangs.
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Selling counterfeit cash works like a
crime many gangs are already familiar
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with, selling drugs.
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Doing business with gang members also
helps ensure secrecy.
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It's easier to trust a gang member than
it is to trust someone else because you
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know basically a gang member is a
criminal.
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You don't rat out nobody that's either a
part of the gang or nobody that you
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deal with.
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Amongst gang members.
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That's something that'll get you killed.
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Gang members are warned about how to use
the money and not get caught.
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The lower -level individuals that were
passing the counterfeit had been given
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instructions by the people that they had
received the counterfeit from to only
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take one counterfeit note at a time into
a business, into a store.
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The rest is easy.
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Buy inexpensive items and get genuine
currency as change.
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With this system in place, Tolton's
money spreads through L .A. like
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Up next on American Greed, Albert Tolton
sets in motion one of the most
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notorious counterfeit money operations
in history.
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This is definitely the largest volume
out of one digital operation that we've
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seen.
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44 -year -old counterfeiter Albert
Talton is a self -made man.
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He's taught himself how to copycat U .S.
currency.
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And now he's operating one of the most
successful counterfeit rings in history.
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In a telephone interview, David
Goldberg, who helps Talton make the
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counterfeits, discusses his longtime
partner in crime.
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He's the type of person that if he sees
something he wants to do, he'll figure
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out how to do it.
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Takes the time to sit down and master
things, but he's very cocky once he
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masters it.
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Dalton spent his childhood in Englewood,
California, a neighborhood troubled by
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gangs and drug dealers looking to make
easy money.
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The nickname is Englewood, always up to
no good, because it's just crime
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riddled. Drugs, drug addicts,
prostitution,
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typical ghetto type.
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I mean, there are good spots in
Englewood, but the area he lived in, it
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nice street. But you can't stop the
surrounding areas from roaming that
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territory.
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He never joins a gang, but he isn't
immune to their influence.
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We still grew up in the various
neighborhoods.
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Just because we didn't feel the need to
join a gang doesn't mean you don't know
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them.
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After high school, Talton studies
electrical engineering, but drops out
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earning his degree.
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Around this time, Talton begins dating
Allison Sewell.
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He always strived that he did not want a
9 to 5.
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Now, whether it was being self -employed
or just finding another way to hustle
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besides the drugs or gangs, being gang
affiliated, he always just...
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Never felt like he was reaching his full
potential by working for someone else.
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Hustling to make extra money becomes a
pattern for Talton.
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Friends call it doing dirt.
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The longer that I've known him, he's
been doing dirt.
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Most of the things I've been arrested
for in my life have been either working
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with him or something I learned from
him.
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But Talton isn't an average criminal.
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He is intelligent, resourceful.
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and has the unique ability to copycat
just about anything.
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I remember when he first heard the Bose
radio system, and he was wondering how
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he could get it in his car without using
their speakers or whatnot, so he
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actually took the Bose speaker apart,
figured out how they got so much bass
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of a little speaker, and then started
making stereo speakers for his car from
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scratch.
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He uses his ability as another way to
make easy money.
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In the 1990s, he begins forging checks
and lands behind bars.
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He goes back to prison again in 2001,
this time for bank fraud.
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Assistant U .S. Attorney Matt Jenkins
sees a pattern in Talton's crimes.
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It became apparent to him at some point
that his talent was financials. All of
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his crime, maybe not all of it,
predominantly had to do with money.
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When Talton gets out of prison in 2004,
it looks like he's going straight, and
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he gets a job at a body shop.
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Until one day when his boss shows him a
counterfeit bill he's found in the
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register. He said he looked at it, said
I could do this better.
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And so that's all it took. It prompted
him. He saw something potentially
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lucrative that he could do better, that
he was good at, and he did.
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The 41 -year -old is determined to
copycat the bill.
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To him, I guess it was just like
breaking down that Bose speaker and
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make something similar or better.
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He just took the bill and broke it down
and tried to figure out how he could
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make it look as good as a real one.
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Tolton buys an all -in -one printer and
scanner.
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The startup costs less than $200.
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But U .S. currency is a tough nut to
crack. Each bill has high -tech features
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designed to thwart would -be
counterfeiters.
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Some of the things that have been
embedded in the paper itself, the
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paper, such as a security watermark and
a security thread, those things, because
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they are embedded in the paper, cannot
be reproduced simply by putting a piece
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of genuine currency on a copy machine
and just hitting copy.
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It won't reproduce anything that's
actually in the paper. It only will
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what's on the surface.
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One more feature on $10 Bills and Up is
color -shifting ink that can be seen
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when the money is tilted.
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To perfect the image, Talton upgrades to
a computer with graphic software.
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He just focused his attention on making
counterfeit money, and he was always
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trying to make his counterfeit notes
better, experimenting with different
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papers, looking at the way the ink was
on the paper.
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He would try to clean up the image on
the computer.
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Trial and error leads Tolton to this
construction.
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He prints the bills on two sheets of
recycled newsprint and glues them
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What that allows the counterfeiter to do
is to actually print simulated security
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features on the inside of one of those
sheets of paper, which kind of gives the
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illusion that those security features
appear to be more genuine than just a
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simple... printed simulation on the back
of a counterfeit.
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Ultimately, Talton's reproduction of a
$100 bill is good, but not great.
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One of the things that you'll first
notice is that it does seem on the
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to possess the security features that a
genuine bill would have.
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But a closer look exposes Talton's
forgery.
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So if you put the counterfeit next to a
genuine and you look at the watermarks,
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you can see that a genuine watermark
does look... more like the portrait.
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In comparison, a simulation looks more
like an artistic caricature, like
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actually had to sketch it out or draw it
out.
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Next to a genuine bill, Taunton's
security threat is barely visible, and
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no color -shifting ink.
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But Taunton knows that most stores won't
scrutinize the money.
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Instead, they'll rely on a counterfeit
detection pen.
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Because genuine currency is made of
cloth, And most counterfeits are printed
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paper. These pens are designed to leave
an orange mark on genuine currency and a
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black mark on paper -based counterfeits.
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But as Talton discovers, the pens can be
easily fooled.
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Talton finds that coating the paper with
hairspray tricks the pen into leaving
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an orange line.
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He even discovers which brand works
best.
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He tried, like, White Rain, like a
cheaper brand of hairspray to treat the
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notes. And it didn't appear to work as
well. So he switched to Aquanet
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hairspray, and that worked better.
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Dalton gives some of his bills to an
acquaintance to test.
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The counterfeits spend like the real
thing.
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You know, when a person at a retail
outlet receives a $100 bill, looks at
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runs the counterfeit detection pen over
the note, it doesn't cause a reaction.
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They assume that, hey, if the pen tells
us that it's genuine, then it must be
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genuine.
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Talton's new scam is taking shape.
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He is a smart and thoughtful individual,
and the people who get busted and
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counterfeit are usually the less smart
people who make it and then spend it
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the street from their house.
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So I think at some point he probably did
use it, but probably more as a test
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than anything else, because he didn't
want to get caught. He's smarter than
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that.
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He quits his job at the body shop, moves
out of the hood and into a comfortable
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townhouse in nearby Lawndale.
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Business is so good, he can barely keep
up with demand.
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The word started getting out on the
street that he had this product and that
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product was working and passing through
businesses and not having a problem
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really with detection at the point of
sale.
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So that Mr. Talton's orders began to
increase dramatically.
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The experienced con man enjoys the
spoils of his labor.
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He invests in a home for a girlfriend in
the expensive L .A. suburb of Woodland
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Hills. He buys two Mercedes and an Aston
Martin sports car worth more than $100
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,000. He came by my office, and this was
the first time I saw the Aston Martin.
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Just based on his past, I kind of had a
feeling he was doing something wrong,
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but I just didn't think to that
magnitude.
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But Tolton's scam hasn't gone unnoticed.
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Agents at the Secret Service Los Angeles
field office are tracking the bogus
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money. Less than $8 ,000 is recorded for
all of 2005.
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But by 2006, the number jumps to more
than a million and continues to rise.
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July, August, May, and June. It's just a
small sample of what
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came in through our office.
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We saw the note start to spread not only
from the West Coast, but into the
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Midwest, the East Coast, into the South.
And by 2007, I think that the note at
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that point had touched almost every
district pretty much nationwide.
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The homemade money turns up everywhere,
from upscale retailers and big box
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chains to mom -and -pop operations.
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The lost revenue creates a widespread
ripple effect.
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When someone passes a counterfeit bill
at a store, first of all, that store
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bears the loss.
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In addition, the stores don't bear the
loss on their own. They pass the cost on
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to consumers, so it's higher prices for
all of us.
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I think everyone is victimized by
counterfeiters. I think it's a really
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crime.
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Up next, every scam has a flaw, and the
feds think they've spotted Tolton's.
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In early 2007, counterfeit $100 bills
are flowing through the country at a
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frightening rate. Almost $1 million in
counterfeit cash has been recorded in
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first three months alone.
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Secret Service agents know the bogus
cash is coming from the Los Angeles
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But after tracking down numerous leads,
they're no closer to stopping the
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counterfeiter.
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Forensic analysis shows the bills are
being made with an inkjet printer.
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The fact that the counterfeiter is using
ordinary consumer technology to create
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such a successful bill is alarming.
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It's actually much more time consuming
to do it that way.
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To us, it shows more effort on the part
of the counterfeiter.
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This is definitely the largest volume
out of one digital operation that we've
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seen.
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But agents know something the
counterfeiter doesn't. On genuine
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are small letters and numbers on the
front and back of each bill.
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Those numbers correspond to the printing
plates used by the government, and they
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vary from bill to bill.
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With this particular counterfeit, for
some reason, those numbers were never
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changed. So on the front of the bill,
the letters and numbers that were always
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seen were H2, H38, and those never
changed.
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The counterfeiter is copying the same
bill over and over, and he has
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left a calling card linking millions of
counterfeit $100 bills directly to him.
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The notorious H2H38 counterfeits have
agents scrambling to crush the operation
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behind them.
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Assistant U .S. Attorney Tracy Wilcheson
works with the Secret Service as they
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try to trace the money back to its
source.
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An investigation into a counterfeiting
group is frankly a lot like an
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investigation into a drug organization.
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You start off looking at the end users,
the people who are passing the bill at
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the stores.
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And you talk to those people and see if
they will tell you where they bought
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their counterfeit. They wanted to
essentially cut off the head of the
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the printing operation.
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They didn't just want to track down who
passed the $100 bill at Macy's.
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In order to work their way up the chain
of distribution, teams of special agents
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from the L .A. counterfeit squad hit the
streets.
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So we started pinpointing the different
locations where this money was being
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passed, and we realized that the notes
were being passed one at a time.
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throughout the city of Los Angeles.
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Agents will have to chase down millions
in counterfeits, one bill at a time.
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When suspects are arrested, they're
often gang members caught with a single
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bogus bill. That gives them a plausible
excuse designed to fool investigators.
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A lot of the information that we receive
is, I sold a car to somebody for $1
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,500, and this is one of the hundreds
that I received.
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When agents push them for answers, they
clam up.
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The explanation from some of the people
that I personally interviewed on this
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case were that they were afraid.
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They were afraid of reprisals.
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They were getting the money from people
in the neighborhoods that they'd known
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for many years, that knew their
families, that knew their brothers and
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and they were afraid.
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We were getting the lowest possible rung
that were arrested here locally and
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then trying to work that back up the
ladder to the printer eventually.
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Unfortunately, as our interviews
continued, we were only able to progress
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in the investigation before it was
stalled out.
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The first major break in the case takes
place on January 14, 2008.
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A man is arrested in Los Angeles after
using 10 H2H38 counterfeits at an H
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&M clothing store.
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Special Agent Matthew Mayo takes part in
the interrogation.
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The suspect isn't a gang member and has
no criminal history.
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He was nervous, and I think he knew in
the end that he didn't want to take the
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rap for other people's activity,
primarily the person who gave him the
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counterfeit money and also the person
down the line who printed it.
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To turn up the heat, agents ask him to
take a polygraph test, and the suspect
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cracks under pressure.
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We presented him with a lot of facts, a
lot of evidence against him, and he
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chose the right road, which was to come
clean about it and to tell us the truth.
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The information he supplies leads agents
to lower -level distributors.
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But they'll need people working on the
inside if they want to penetrate the
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heart of this conspiracy.
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They convince a few of the suspects to
go undercover.
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We will have people who...
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want to assist the government for a
variety of reasons, we'll work with them
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purchase counterfeit money.
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They send one suspect in to buy more
counterfeit money.
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Monitoring his every move.
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The seller is Troy Stroud, one of
Talton's brokers.
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The deal takes place at Stroud's million
-dollar home.
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Their inside man leaves the meeting with
more than $3 ,000 in H -2, H -38
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counterfeit bills.
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Agents set up a second buy at a
restaurant.
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This time their man wears a wire.
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Agents listen in as Stroud shows off a
new product.
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He gave a sample $20 bill to the
confidential source.
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We knew that if he could make the $20
counterfeit bill on par with how he made
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the $100 counterfeit bill, that we were
going to have a problem.
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It was very significant because people,
merchants, when they see a $100 bill,
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their eyes light up, their ears perk up.
They are paying attention to the bill.
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They're looking to see if it's
counterfeit.
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And so it's harder for those bills to
get passed successfully.
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$20 bills don't get that kind of
scrutiny.
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Those kinds of bills would just get
passed all over the country in a manner
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was just frightening.
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The Secret Service tracks Stroud's every
move.
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One day, they follow his white Range
Rover to the drive -thru at a Popeye's
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Chicken. Mayo has a hunch.
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I immediately ran into the Popeye's
Chicken, identified myself to the
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duty, and asked if I could be allowed
behind the counter.
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Mr. Stroud arrived at the drive -thru
window, passed a $20 bill through the
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window to the manager. The manager then
immediately passed it to me.
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and I verified that it was counterfeit.
She gave Mr. Stroud his change so that
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we could further the investigation, and
we continued surveilling Mr. Stroud
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after that.
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It was significant because it showed us
that the $20 bills were being passed,
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were being produced, and that Troy was
involved in the organization from
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soup to nuts. He was not only selling
large amounts to...
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confidential informants, he was also
passing them himself.
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Agents hurry to fit the pieces into the
counterfeit puzzle.
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Is Troy Stroud the printer and
mastermind behind the operation?
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To find out, they execute a
controversial warrant known as a sneak
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It's a tactic that allows them to enter
in search of home without their
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suspect's knowledge.
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We just didn't want the case to die at
Mr. Stroud because we had to tell him
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that we were there.
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We do have to give notice eventually,
but we get a certain period of time for
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the investigation to continue before we
give notice.
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While Stroud's away, an undercover team
approaches his home.
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Secret Service agents Manuel Puentes and
Matthew Mayo return to the scene to
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discuss their search with American
Dream.
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While he was gone, myself and some other
agents had a professional pick the lock
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in the back.
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We entered the residence, searched for
contraband, specifically counterfeit
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currency. We did not find any
counterfeit currency inside the
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confirmed here that this, in fact, was
not a plant. There was no counterfeit
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being manufactured here.
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That same day, the investigation takes a
dramatic turn.
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One of the agent's sources gets a call
from Stroud.
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Stroud is on his way to meet the
counterfeit printer.
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Agents tail Stroud to this townhouse in
Lawndale.
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When he leaves, Stroud calls the source
and says he's got counterfeit cash and
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he's ready to deal.
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Up next on American Greed, agents set up
surveillance outside the Lawndale
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residence and come face to face with
Albert Talton and his team.
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They were oblivious that we were
following them and watching them.
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The U .S. Secret Service is closing
ranks on a counterfeit money operation,
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cranking out millions of dollars in
bogus $20 and $100 bills.
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The trail has led them to this Lawndale,
California, townhouse and the man they
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believe is the counterfeiter. To confirm
their suspicions, agents prepare to
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take out the trap.
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Once someone throws something away, puts
the trash in the trash can out by the
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curb, then it's...
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Public domain, anyone can go through it,
anyone can look for it, and the
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government can certainly come along and
take it. And that's what we did.
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Early in the mornings, we would come
here when it was still dark.
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There was not a lot of traffic, so we
were able to retrieve the trash and take
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it in plastic bags to our office, where
we would disseminate the trash.
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They've just hit pay dirt.
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We found scrappings that were
consistent.
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with a counterfeiting operation that had
some sort of image that appeared to be
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counterfeit currency.
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We found empty ink cartridge wrappers.
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They find a prescription with the name
Albert Talton.
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So now we knew that that trash came from
that residence and that the residence
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occupants were Mr. Talton.
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And a receipt from a Staples office
supply store.
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They visit the store and are able to
track Talton's purchases through his
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Staples reward card.
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00:30:34,980 --> 00:30:39,219
While Talton was racking up reward
points for his illegal activities, he
447
00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:42,100
also leaving a trail for the Secret
Service to follow.
448
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:49,240
It showed that he was buying a lot of
ink, that he was there on a regular
449
00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:54,659
and that looking at where we were in the
case at the time, all things
450
00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:58,339
considered, it pretty much... pointed to
the fact that he was involved in
451
00:30:58,340 --> 00:30:59,780
counterfeiting U .S. currency.
452
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:07,299
On April 28, 2008, surveillance teams
move into a hotel across from Talton's
453
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:13,439
home. Special Agent Matthew Mayo takes
American greed back to the scene of the
454
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,859
stakeout. We had two Secret Service
personnel up here virtually
455
00:31:18,860 --> 00:31:25,220
16, 18 hours every day, and they kept
meticulous note.
456
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,340
on everything that was going on.
457
00:31:28,660 --> 00:31:32,440
From the get -go, Talton behaves like a
man with something to hide.
458
00:31:32,780 --> 00:31:37,419
He thoroughly washes his garbage can,
unaware that investigators have already
459
00:31:37,420 --> 00:31:42,399
found telltale signs of counterfeiting
in his trash, and routinely moves his
460
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,000
small fleet of luxury cars around the
property.
461
00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:50,000
Agents suspect he coats his counterfeit
bills with hairspray in the garage.
462
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,599
It's a trick that keeps detection pens
from marking his forgeries, but it's bad
463
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,880
for his car's paint jobs.
464
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,999
Surveillance also gives agents the
opportunity to get a good look at
465
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,050
accomplices.
466
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,539
Paul McCorry, one of Talton's brokers,
arrives almost daily in a bright orange
467
00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:09,180
Mercedes with vanity plates.
468
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,220
He uses its own key to enter Talton's
home.
469
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,260
Troy Stroud, another broker, visits in
his white Range Rover.
470
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,419
And David Goldberg, who helps make the
bills, comes and goes on foot carrying a
471
00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:22,470
red backpack.
472
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,759
At the time that this was going on here
in the hotel room where we were
473
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,299
videotaping everything, we also had
mobile surveillance units and vehicles
474
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:37,720
to follow Talton wherever he may go
during the day.
475
00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:43,150
On April 30th, Talton leaves his home
with Paul McCorry.
476
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:47,370
Agents follow them to the paper supply
store, Paper Mart.
477
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:51,350
They observe Talton loading large
packages into his car.
478
00:32:52,290 --> 00:32:57,369
After Mr. Talton departed, I went in and
spoke with the manager of the Paper
479
00:32:57,370 --> 00:33:02,730
Mart and received a copy of his receipt
for that day, which showed that he did,
480
00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:04,770
in fact, purchase three bales of paper.
481
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,660
It's enough paper to print $2 million in
counterfeit bills.
482
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,020
And it's the same type of newsprint used
to make the H2 -H38 bills.
483
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,960
At a second location, the large sheets
are cut down to fit an inkjet printer.
484
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,340
Talton unloads the paper into his home.
485
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:28,320
I don't think they had any idea that we
were watching them from the hotel room,
486
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,200
that we were following them when they
went to the paper mart, when they went.
487
00:33:33,201 --> 00:33:37,309
to Staples, when they went to different
locations, they were oblivious that we
488
00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:39,230
were following them and watching them.
489
00:33:39,231 --> 00:33:43,369
Talton got really successful, and as a
result of any successful business, his
490
00:33:43,370 --> 00:33:45,090
demand increased exponentially.
491
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:49,669
And that's ultimately kind of what
brought him down upon himself, because
492
00:33:49,670 --> 00:33:51,549
needed to start getting more people
involved.
493
00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:55,369
He needed to go out more often to get
supplies, because a lot of people were
494
00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:56,420
buying it.
495
00:33:57,070 --> 00:34:01,350
Selling counterfeit cash has netted
Talton roughly $800 ,000.
496
00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:05,860
Businesses and consumers have lost
millions due to the scam.
497
00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:10,000
And as long as Talton is a free man,
those figures will continue to rise.
498
00:34:10,659 --> 00:34:15,379
But agents must wait a little longer
before they make their busts. When we
499
00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:18,479
up to his house, we want to make sure
there's money there and make sure he's
500
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,419
actually printing so we can prove that
it was him and not someone else from a
501
00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:22,470
different house.
502
00:34:22,471 --> 00:34:26,428
What we were doing was making sure that
we knew exactly who the printer was,
503
00:34:26,429 --> 00:34:31,569
exactly who was helping him, and once we
were confident that we could take down
504
00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:34,650
the entire organization, then we moved
in.
505
00:34:35,810 --> 00:34:37,469
And then they get lucky.
506
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:41,530
They get word that Talton is preparing
to fill a large order.
507
00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:47,029
On May 8th, surveillance of Talton's
home shows that many of the key players
508
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:48,469
present and accounted for.
509
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:52,710
We had Mr. McCrory in the residence, Mr.
Talton in the residence.
510
00:34:53,010 --> 00:34:55,510
We had Mr. Goldberg at the residence.
511
00:34:55,989 --> 00:35:01,289
And based on everything that they had
done during that previous week when we
512
00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:05,949
were surveilling them, they had, you
know, gone to the paper mart and, you
513
00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:09,380
purchased more newsprint. They had
offloaded it into the residence.
514
00:35:09,730 --> 00:35:15,009
So all these things were pointing to the
fact that they were actively producing
515
00:35:15,010 --> 00:35:18,090
counterfeit. They could have been
producing it that day.
516
00:35:18,860 --> 00:35:23,619
I think once we knew that all roads were
leading to this one house, once we knew
517
00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:25,980
that this was in fact the printer, it
was time.
518
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,920
Next on American Greed, special agents
converge on Talton's home.
519
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,980
On May 8, 2008.
520
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:49,749
The U .S. Secret Service prepares to
take down the mastermind behind a
521
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:52,460
multimillion -dollar counterfeit money
operation.
522
00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:57,889
Special agents are confident that the
bogus cash is being made here, inside
523
00:35:57,890 --> 00:36:00,870
Albert Tolton's Lawndale, California,
home.
524
00:36:01,190 --> 00:36:05,529
We knew exactly what we were going to do
because we had been observing Tolton's
525
00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:10,669
residence for early hours that morning
from a hotel location right behind his
526
00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:12,710
residence. So we knew all his movements.
527
00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:18,829
With Talton are key members of his
organization, Paul McCorry and David
528
00:36:18,830 --> 00:36:19,880
Goldberg.
529
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:25,369
After a two -year manhunt, the Secret
Service is ready to bust one of the most
530
00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:27,780
notorious counterfeit money rings in
history.
531
00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:31,650
Agents move in armed with guns and a
battering ram.
532
00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:36,850
Assistant U .S. Attorney Matt Jenkins
observes the raid from a safe distance.
533
00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:40,610
I could hear Matt Mayo's voice yelling
out commands.
534
00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:42,290
It's like in the movies.
535
00:36:42,291 --> 00:36:46,039
After doing a knock and an out, waiting
the appropriate amount of time, then
536
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,090
break down the door.
537
00:36:47,620 --> 00:36:51,739
Secret service kicked in the door. All I
could do was stand up and lift my hands
538
00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:52,790
in the air.
539
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:55,200
They rushed in, guns drawn.
540
00:36:56,380 --> 00:36:57,900
Agents swarmed the suspects.
541
00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:02,060
Mr. Talton was coming out of the
bedroom.
542
00:37:02,380 --> 00:37:09,059
I had my gun out, and when Mr. Talton
saw that I was armed and face -to -face
543
00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:12,140
with him in the hallway, Mr. Talton
quickly went.
544
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,180
to the ground and didn't create any
further problems.
545
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,699
In a matter of minutes, Albert Talton,
Paul McCorry, and David Goldberg are
546
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:26,079
handcuffed. A quick search of the house
shows they've caught the counterfeiters
547
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,160
in the act.
548
00:37:27,161 --> 00:37:30,879
It just so happened that when they came
in, we were in the middle of the
549
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,020
process. I think we had money hanging in
the garage drying.
550
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:40,059
I know we had the glue process out on
the countertop, and the printers were
551
00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:41,110
going.
552
00:37:41,111 --> 00:37:44,299
The best thing we saw when we were in
there, went to the computer.
553
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,639
One of his rooms was made into
essentially a counterfeiting factory.
554
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,699
You move the mouse, get it off, stand
by, and there's a $100 bill staring at
555
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:53,750
your face on the screen. It's like,
great.
556
00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:01,139
Recovered $162 ,000 in completed
counterfeit notes and nearly $1 .4
557
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:05,799
in partially completed counterfeit notes
that would have hit the streets
558
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,300
probably in less than a week or two at
the most.
559
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,840
You couldn't catch him more red -handed?
560
00:38:11,070 --> 00:38:12,270
So we're happy with that.
561
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:15,890
Troy Stroud is arrested at his home the
same day.
562
00:38:16,690 --> 00:38:21,029
U .S. Secret Service agents have just
made one of the biggest counterfeit
563
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:22,890
in the history of their organization.
564
00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:25,990
All four suspects are taken in for
questioning.
565
00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:28,470
The evidence is stacked against them.
566
00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:34,329
Goldberg readily confesses. I basically
told him myself because I figured I was
567
00:38:34,330 --> 00:38:38,149
calling the act. I might as well go and
tell after trying to lie and say I was
568
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:39,410
just there playing chess.
569
00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:42,990
I said, finally, okay, I guess I might
as well tell you no already.
570
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,479
Albert Tolton also fesses up, but he
still has a few surprises for
571
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,530
investigators.
572
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,879
What was most surprising is how willing
Mr. Tolton was to accept the
573
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:01,499
responsibility and how it was almost as
if he was proud of what he had done and
574
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:02,580
his accomplishments.
575
00:39:02,581 --> 00:39:06,199
And he told us about how meticulous he
was. He told us about the effort that he
576
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,250
put into it.
577
00:39:07,470 --> 00:39:12,009
He told us about going to store after
store to find the right paper. He told
578
00:39:12,010 --> 00:39:16,289
about working on the security measures
for the bills. And then he told us about
579
00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:20,389
how much money he was making, upwards of
a million dollars for all of the
580
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:21,650
counterfeit that he sold.
581
00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:25,409
I just found myself very interested in
him telling this story about how he did
582
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:27,810
it and kind of why he did it.
583
00:39:27,811 --> 00:39:31,959
So at some point you're sitting across
the table, uncuffed, with some guy
584
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,619
telling his perverted version of the
American dream, where he's made a lot of
585
00:39:36,620 --> 00:39:38,180
money and very successful.
586
00:39:38,181 --> 00:39:41,419
But at the end of that conversation,
you've got to put him in handcuffs and
587
00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:42,470
him back down to jail.
588
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,380
Talton estimates that he made roughly
$800 ,000 from his scam.
589
00:39:48,980 --> 00:39:52,700
But because of the economic downturn,
he's heavily in debt.
590
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:55,280
Banks repossess most of his property.
591
00:39:56,010 --> 00:40:00,749
On August 11th, in the U .S. federal
courthouse in Los Angeles, Albert
592
00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:05,010
pleaded guilty to conspiracy and
manufacturing counterfeit notes.
593
00:40:05,011 --> 00:40:08,569
It wasn't a difficult case to prosecute.
There was a lot of evidence. The Secret
594
00:40:08,570 --> 00:40:13,249
Service did a phenomenal job in putting
together a really good case against all
595
00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:14,300
of the defendants.
596
00:40:14,301 --> 00:40:17,809
They worked very hard to make sure that
the evidence was there so that at the
597
00:40:17,810 --> 00:40:20,760
end of the day, there really was nothing
that they could do.
598
00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:26,749
At Talton's sentencing, the judge
considers the scope of Talton's
599
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:31,610
prior convictions, and also Talton's
considerable intellect and skill.
600
00:40:31,611 --> 00:40:35,569
I think the court recognized that and
took that more than up front, that
601
00:40:35,570 --> 00:40:39,249
who would have other options in his life
to do something productive, something
602
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:43,509
helpful, chose a life of crime instead.
And I think those are continually
603
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:45,050
decisions that Mr. Talton made.
604
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:49,250
Talton is sentenced to nine years in
federal prison.
605
00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:54,370
Sentences for his co -conspirators range
from a few months to a few years.
606
00:40:55,670 --> 00:41:00,809
Usually, financial crimes end up with
lower sentences, somewhere below two
607
00:41:00,810 --> 00:41:04,949
years, although it does absolutely
depend on the amount of loss involved
608
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:06,090
kind of crime that it is.
609
00:41:06,970 --> 00:41:11,969
In this case, Talton's sentence was
quite high by comparison, and I think
610
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:16,749
reflective of his involvement and the
huge quantity of counterfeit money that
611
00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:17,830
put into circulation.
612
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:21,360
Stores report heavy losses.
613
00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:24,840
The hardest hit are Target, Macy's, and
Walmart.
614
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:31,340
In the final tally, Talton has
circulated $7 .2 million of worthless
615
00:41:31,620 --> 00:41:36,240
His bills had reached all 50 states and
nine foreign countries.
616
00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:42,720
Talton's former girlfriend, Allison
Sewell, believes this will be his last
617
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,880
I think this is it for him.
618
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:49,600
Because his whole demeanor this time is
just different. He's a different person.
619
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:56,559
I could see him calculating in his head
what he could possibly do
620
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:02,480
to make a living for himself once he
gets out.
621
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,459
According to attorney Mack Jenkins, for
Tolton to go straight, he'll have to
622
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,600
take a hard look at his greedy past.
623
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:14,300
He wanted to have the Aston Martin and
the two Mercedes.
624
00:42:15,230 --> 00:42:19,749
Seven flat screens. And I think that
kind of mentality is definitely going to
625
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:22,389
have to change because when he gets out,
there's going to be no Aston Martin
626
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:25,700
waiting for him and his TVs are all gone
and his houses are all gone.
627
00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:31,389
From a phone inside prison, David
Goldberg tells American Greed he's done
628
00:42:31,390 --> 00:42:34,110
dirt, but he's not so sure about
talking.
629
00:42:35,230 --> 00:42:40,029
Hopefully this time will be the one that
says, OK, I'm done, because he has the
630
00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:43,830
intellect to go ahead and really prosper
no matter what he does in life.
631
00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:51,039
It may not be as quick as doing dirt is,
but he has the ability to do it. I hope
632
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,089
he does.
633
00:42:52,090 --> 00:42:56,640
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