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- Dusty Rhodes.
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- Tell 'em Ric.
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- Tell 'em Ric.
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It's only just begun.
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- Ric and Dusty together,
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that was magic.
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- I want you out here
nose to nose,
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face to face Ric Flair.
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- The rivalry between Ric Flair
and Dusty Rhodes
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is the rivalry between
Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier.
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Contrasting styles is
what makes great fights.
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- Stylin' and profilin'.
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- Ric rolled in with the
jewelry and the suit
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and the alligator shoes.
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I looked at him go, "Man,
I want to be like him."
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- Woo.
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Woo.
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Woo.
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- He's throwing his
success in people's faces.
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He's not afraid to brag.
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- You can buy these anytime
you want for about $10/$11,000.
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I got 15 of them.
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I don't put values in the
same thing Ric Flair does.
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- I've been hooked
forever on Dusty Rhodes.
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- The little plumber's son,
who come out of the ditch
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and became so sweet.
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- He really was
the American dream.
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- And here we go.
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- The polar opposites.
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He was a perfect babyface.
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I was the perfect heel.
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- He has got a bad cut.
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- For me and Flair,
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you never knew what
you were going to get.
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You kept watching it.
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- They both wanted one thing,
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that top spot.
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That creates an incredible
dynamic.
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- Yeah, you bad Ric.
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You bad.
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- When you have two of
the best at the same time,
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there's always going to be
a bit of jealousy and rivalry.
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That's what made it so good.
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- You're out of line
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- So much animosity
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in this awesome rivalry.
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- When two legends collide,
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their rivalry stays pinned in
our minds forever.
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This is where we break
down the legendary stories
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behind the greatest
rivalries of all time.
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I'm Gabriel Iglesias,
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and this is
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WWE Rivals.
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- Remember one
thing, to be the man,
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you got to beat the man.
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I'm the son of a plumber.
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I was raised in Austin, Texas,
and I never had anything
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unless I got down on
my knees and went for it.
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- The American Dream,
Dusty Rhodes
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and the Nature Boy,
Ric Flair.
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I don't even know
where to start.
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These are two
names that I mean,
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the business wouldn't
be the business
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without these two legends.
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- Mmhmm.
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- Those guys
were a different level.
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- Woo.
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I'm the Nature Boy.
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I'm the dealer.
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You know why?
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Because this says so.
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Don't be stomping on me,
Ric Flair.
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Don't talk about
the American Dream
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Dusty Rhodes.
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I am the best, daddy.
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There is no other.
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- You want to talk about
how big this rivalry was,
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look at the reaction.
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If you put Dusty Rhodes versus
Ric Flair in almost any arena
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you were going to sell out.
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- I wish I could have been there
to experience that,
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you know, and to be
a fan back then,
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Like, I'm so jealous that I-
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- Ah, yeah dude it was the
greatest.
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- You know what I mean?
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For you to be there, like,
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- Especially for a little kid.
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- Yeah.
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- Man, everything's bigger
than life as it is, right?
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- I meet people all the time,
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like, "I grew up
on Dusty Rhodes"
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and, like, "Do you remember
what that was like?"
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- Oh, yeah.
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I grew up in Florida,
in the Tampa Bay area.
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There was no one
bigger than Dusty Rhodes.
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He was the biggest
celebrity in all of Florida.
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- You can see the throngs,
they are gathering around,
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trying to get to this
charismatic individual,
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Dusty Rhodes.
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♪
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- Whether you like it or not,
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I'm gonna get meaner and
badder than you've ever seen.
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- They'd film TV at
the Sportatorium in Tampa.
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That's where I used to
go watch Dusty Rhodes
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and skip high school after lunch
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and go down and watch
him film wrestling.
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- There's no greater star.
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There's no greater being,
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ever than Dusty Rhodes,
The American Dream.
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- When Dusty Rhodes punched
somebody
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or hit an elbow every time,
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boom,
boom,
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sounded like a cannon
would go off.
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His charisma-
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He was really, really good at
connecting with the crowd.
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- It's about winning
for my people, baby.
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- I fell in love with him
then.
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If he wasn't on TV one week,
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I was pissed off.
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- Who's your favorite wrestler?
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- Dusty Rhodes.
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- Why do you like Dusty
better than anyone else?
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- He's a hunk.
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- I admit, I don't look like
the athlete of the day.
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My belly's just a little big.
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My heinie's just a little big.
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But brother, I am bad,
and they know I'm bad.
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- You have to remember what the
ideal man was like at that time.
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It was Stallone,
it was Schwarzenegger.
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It was this idea that
you needed 20 inch biceps
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and a six pack abs.
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And here was Dusty Rhodes.
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He looked like
somebody you might know.
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And yet Dusty Rhodes
is a real athlete.
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- There's the athlete
side of Dusty,
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and then there's the
thespian side of Dusty.
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To be a
superhero in real life
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and somewhat in a
performative sense.
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That's what he was for me.
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♪
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- I am the hit maker,
the record breaker.
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When all the wrestlers in
the back laughing and jokin',
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the Dream's out front, Woo.
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Cookin' and smokin'
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- Dusty was an entertainer first
and then a wrestler second.
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- When I was growing up,
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I sure didn't think
265 pounds of blue eyed soul
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would captivate the
country like I have.
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The people drive me.
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I was very strict on how
I wanted myself looked at,
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how I wanted the
fans to perceive me,
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how I wanted to stay
true to my character.
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- I think Dusty was
kind of like a pied piper,
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and they would follow him
because they believed
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that Dusty was one of them.
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- Dusty was Mr. Charisma.
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He was in Minneapolis when I
started-
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my hero from day one.
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- Around the time
that Ric Flair began training
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for the sport of kings,
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Dusty Rhodes was already
establishing himself as a star,
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and when he saw
guys like Dusty Rhodes,
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he was just drawn to them.
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And when he latches on
to something, he's all in.
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- I liked him so much that
when I wasn't booked,
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I would travel with
Dusty Rhodes and Dick Murdoch
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and just be their driver.
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- We had a great time
earlier in his career.
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Me and Dick Murdoch
drove him crazy.
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He was about 300 pounds.
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We made him
shave his head.
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He looked like
Porky the Pig.
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- And this isn't as ridiculous
as it sounds
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because Ric Flair was soaking
up knowledge.
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Dusty was the star and
Ric was the student.
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- Flair got in the business
one reason because of Dusty.
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You know, he almost
named him last name Rhodes.
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- Rambling Ricky Rhodes.
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Yeah.
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- Wow.
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- Because of his affection and-
and admiration for Dusty Rhodes.
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- And guess who my idol was?
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It was the American Dream
Dusty Rhodes, my idol.
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I wanted to be
Ramblin Ricky Rhodes.
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[laughing]
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- That's a
true story I told him.
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I said Natch, "Let me
give you some advice.
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Just be the first ever
Nature Boy Ric Flair."
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And the rest is history.
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- Ric Flair he is a
peacock, a dandy.
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- I wear the finest clothes,
date the most beautiful women,
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driving the biggest cars,
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and I'm the toughest piece
of work in pro wrestling.
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- Woo.
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I mean, I had sunk
my teeth into it.
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Every day it just got better.
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The more extravagant I was,
the more attention I got.
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The finest jet money can buy.
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And it doesn't
belong to Burt Reynolds.
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It belongs to the one
and the only
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Nature Boy, Ric Flair.
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Woo.
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- What a lot of younger people
don't understand
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having grown up watching WWE,
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one dominating juggernaut,
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is that there was
a territory system,
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the National Wrestling
Alliance.
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Not only were Ric Flair
and Dusty Rhodes stars
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in their individual territories,
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Flair in the
Charlotte based territory,
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Dusty in the
Tampa Bay's territory,
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but they were often sought
by other promoters,
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and they traveled,
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and there was no other symbol
of dominance
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in the
National Wrestling Alliance,
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than wearing that NWA World
Heavyweight Championship.
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- Dusty Rhodes, the challenger
strolls into the ring
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getting set to take on the
World Heavyweight Champion,
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Harley Race.
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- On that given night.
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I wanted to do the best,
be the best in my business.
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I always wanted to
bring them with me.
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That was my
deal with the fans.
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And they became
such a part of me
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that they forgot
everything else.
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Everything was real.
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- It's all or nothing
for Dusty Rhodes.
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Comes down with the elbow.
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[bell rings]
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- Dusty Rhodes
has just become
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the World Heavyweight
Wrestling Champion.
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- First time I won the NWA
Worlds Heavyweight title
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was a dream come true.
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I'm telling you,
get a dream, hold on to it,
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and shoot for the sky.
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Because now I-
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It was real.
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It was the most
realest thing I'd ever done.
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That moment, I was
champion of the world.
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- Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes
began the rivalry.
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They finally had their first
championship match in 1981.
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Having your first championship
match
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against the American Dream.
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- No pressure.
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- I was so enamored with
Dusty Rhodes.
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For me to wrestle Dusty
was awesome.
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I wanna tell ya, it was one of
the greatest moments of my life,
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but it was terrible.
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- And Rhodes grabbing Flair
off the top rope for a suplex,
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and look out.
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And Nature Boy Ric Flair has won
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the World Heavyweight
Championship.
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- Wasn't put together right?
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The glamor and
glitz wasn't there,
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and it could have been so
much better had it been done
256
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in Florida or the Carolinas
where people knew us.
257
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They didn't even know us
in Kansas City.
258
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He didn't want to lose.
259
00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:22,722
I didn't blame him.
260
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We're friends, but I think
he was really upset by it.
261
00:10:31,531 --> 00:10:35,068
- In Florida, there was not a
lot of financial movement
262
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for me within my prime.
263
00:10:37,704 --> 00:10:39,239
As far as creativity wise,
264
00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:40,840
I needed to kick it
in a little bit.
265
00:10:42,242 --> 00:10:43,676
- You know, his name
was American Dream,
266
00:10:43,776 --> 00:10:46,679
but he was a
dreamer of epic proportion.
267
00:10:47,380 --> 00:10:49,549
He had come up
with these concepts
268
00:10:49,616 --> 00:10:52,185
of doing a
mega, huge show,
269
00:10:52,252 --> 00:10:55,121
and he was just looking
for the platform to do it.
270
00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:58,558
- Crockett Promotions in
Charlotte, North Carolina.
271
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Jim Crockett called me and said.
272
00:11:00,627 --> 00:11:02,829
"I want an event
like no other event."
273
00:11:02,896 --> 00:11:04,764
This would be-be before Mania.
274
00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:05,765
- David, it's always a pleasure
275
00:11:05,832 --> 00:11:07,367
to be on Mid-Atlantic
Championship Wrestling
276
00:11:07,433 --> 00:11:08,468
because this is-
277
00:11:08,468 --> 00:11:10,870
- Coming to Mid-atlantic was
kind of the beginning of
278
00:11:10,937 --> 00:11:13,873
a section of Dusty Rhodes career
that he would end up
279
00:11:13,873 --> 00:11:17,544
becoming just as much known
for as what he did in the ring,
280
00:11:17,644 --> 00:11:20,747
which was to be
that creative force.
281
00:11:20,847 --> 00:11:22,982
And one of his first big
ideas was to put on Starrcade.
282
00:11:24,217 --> 00:11:27,520
- Ladies and gentlemen,
Starrcade
283
00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:31,024
- This was a major,
significant event,
284
00:11:31,090 --> 00:11:34,627
but it was also a very
important event for Ric Flair.
285
00:11:35,295 --> 00:11:37,163
- We're entering a brand new era
286
00:11:37,230 --> 00:11:38,231
of professional wrestling.
287
00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:49,642
- In the early 80s, Dusty moved
to Charlotte, North Carolina,
288
00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:51,945
to work for Jim Crockett.
289
00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:55,648
Dusty always wanted
to produce wrestling
290
00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:58,751
to facilitate the
shows and all of that.
291
00:11:58,818 --> 00:12:00,954
He was very creative.
292
00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:03,756
- My dad was a
really deep thinker.
293
00:12:03,823 --> 00:12:07,794
I'd catch him a lot at his
desk, staring at a legal pad,
294
00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:09,829
sometimes with
matches scribbled there
295
00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:10,964
or ideas.
296
00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:12,232
He was an idea man.
297
00:12:13,866 --> 00:12:15,969
- Dusty Rhodes had just
come in to be the new booker.
298
00:12:16,035 --> 00:12:17,770
Dusty also was an active
wrestler.
299
00:12:18,671 --> 00:12:21,274
He coined the phrase "He's the
man with the pencil."
300
00:12:21,341 --> 00:12:23,610
He makes the decisions.
301
00:12:23,676 --> 00:12:26,312
Who wrestles who, who
wins there, this and that.
302
00:12:27,714 --> 00:12:30,550
- Dusty had a
brilliant booking mind.
303
00:12:30,617 --> 00:12:35,154
He knew how to tell a long
term story in pro wrestling.
304
00:12:35,221 --> 00:12:40,593
He knew how to evoke emotion and
how to bring people to the peak
305
00:12:40,660 --> 00:12:41,728
and then pull them back.
306
00:12:44,063 --> 00:12:45,798
- Some people have that genius.
307
00:12:45,865 --> 00:12:46,833
Dusty Rhodes had it.
308
00:12:48,468 --> 00:12:51,904
Starrcade, Dusty created it,
he came up with it.
309
00:12:52,005 --> 00:12:53,206
It was our WrestleMania.
310
00:12:53,272 --> 00:12:54,507
before there was WrestleMania.
311
00:12:55,975 --> 00:12:58,511
- The name Starrcade
came from Dusty Rhodes.
312
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He understood
313
00:13:00,713 --> 00:13:02,649
the concept of
the big event
314
00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:04,517
probably better
than anybody.
315
00:13:04,584 --> 00:13:08,187
- Starrcade '83, I done
made my appointment.
316
00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:10,256
- The creation of Starrcade.
317
00:13:10,356 --> 00:13:13,026
I got the biggest payday
that I'd ever gotten
318
00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:15,862
just to create it
as a writer, as a,
319
00:13:15,928 --> 00:13:18,498
you know, a movie
director of a movie.
320
00:13:18,598 --> 00:13:20,066
It was my-
Starrcade's my movie.
321
00:13:20,066 --> 00:13:23,036
When I see it today, it's
Gone With the Wind to me.
322
00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:26,039
- Starrcade '83.
323
00:13:26,906 --> 00:13:28,474
Ric Flair and
Harley Race, I mean,
324
00:13:28,541 --> 00:13:32,512
to get this match for Greensboro
is just, uh, unbelievable.
325
00:13:32,512 --> 00:13:33,680
And the match is
going to be scheduled
326
00:13:33,746 --> 00:13:38,284
for Thursday, November the 24th,
Thanksgiving Night, 1983.
327
00:13:38,351 --> 00:13:41,387
- We had Thanksgiving dinner
early in St. Pete,
328
00:13:41,387 --> 00:13:45,124
and then drove to Orlando and
watched it on closed circuit.
329
00:13:45,191 --> 00:13:47,727
- Due to the tremendous demand
for tickets,
330
00:13:47,794 --> 00:13:49,462
Starrcade '83 can be seen
331
00:13:49,462 --> 00:13:51,097
on closed circuit,
332
00:13:51,197 --> 00:13:53,099
big screen color TV
333
00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:54,100
around the world and
334
00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,035
in selected cities in your area.
335
00:13:57,403 --> 00:13:59,672
- To be able to go somewhere
and watch something live
336
00:13:59,739 --> 00:14:01,507
that was happening
somewhere else.
337
00:14:01,607 --> 00:14:02,475
- That's so cool.
338
00:14:02,575 --> 00:14:03,643
- There was a lot of people in
there, man.
339
00:14:03,710 --> 00:14:05,545
They probably had 10-
12,000 people in there.
340
00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:07,547
- It was actually a cool event.
341
00:14:09,415 --> 00:14:12,985
- Live from the Greensboro
Coliseum,
342
00:14:13,052 --> 00:14:14,287
Starrcade-
343
00:14:15,588 --> 00:14:18,157
- This is a night for
everybody to remember,
344
00:14:18,224 --> 00:14:19,659
wrestling history to be made.
345
00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:23,062
- Setting up Starrcade for the
first time was huge for Dusty
346
00:14:23,129 --> 00:14:24,964
from a creative perspective.
347
00:14:25,031 --> 00:14:27,266
Starrcade changed
the industry,
348
00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:30,703
but it was also huge for
the guy in the main event.
349
00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:33,840
- From Charlotte,
North Carolina,
350
00:14:33,906 --> 00:14:35,641
The Nature Boy, Ric Flair.
351
00:14:37,744 --> 00:14:40,313
- The stakes were really high
for Ric Flair.
352
00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:42,949
He was in his home turf.
353
00:14:43,015 --> 00:14:45,151
It was almost like
Ric Flair had to win.
354
00:14:46,953 --> 00:14:47,887
- Dusty Rhodes,
the American Dream,
355
00:14:47,987 --> 00:14:50,256
two times world
Heavyweight Champion is here
356
00:14:50,356 --> 00:14:53,359
challenging the winner of this
match to meet Dusty Rhodes
357
00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:55,628
so I can be third times World's
Heavyweight Champion once again.
358
00:14:57,029 --> 00:14:58,965
- Here it is Starrcade '83.
359
00:14:59,031 --> 00:15:01,000
It's all going to
culminate right here.
360
00:15:01,067 --> 00:15:04,470
- I can think of two words
that may sum up this
361
00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:05,471
entire match tonight,
362
00:15:05,538 --> 00:15:07,607
intensity and execution.
363
00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:10,910
- Flair up on the top rope.
364
00:15:13,346 --> 00:15:14,013
One
365
00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:14,714
- He's got him down, one.
366
00:15:14,781 --> 00:15:15,281
- Two.
367
00:15:15,348 --> 00:15:15,982
- Two.
368
00:15:16,082 --> 00:15:16,949
Three.
369
00:15:17,016 --> 00:15:17,950
He did it.
370
00:15:18,017 --> 00:15:19,118
He did it.
371
00:15:19,185 --> 00:15:21,320
- And what a match and what a
battle for Ric Flair.
372
00:15:22,889 --> 00:15:24,924
- It was overwhelmingly
phenomenal.
373
00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:27,026
Starrcade.
374
00:15:27,026 --> 00:15:29,028
That was a big deal.
375
00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:30,863
And that was in my
home-home turf.
376
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,265
For me to win in Greensboro,
377
00:15:32,331 --> 00:15:34,267
that's what really launched
my career,
378
00:15:34,333 --> 00:15:35,535
and I was able to
really run with it.
379
00:15:36,669 --> 00:15:37,703
- Congratulations.
380
00:15:37,804 --> 00:15:39,772
I want to you
remember one thing, daddy.
381
00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:42,475
Down the road, there's
one more "Dream".
382
00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:43,409
There's a time comin'.
383
00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,614
- You know, Jim Crockett
has taken the world.
384
00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:51,884
And I'm the man
that's making it possible.
385
00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:54,987
The World Heavyweight
Wrestling Champion.
386
00:15:56,289 --> 00:15:57,957
- Starrcade launched Ric Flair
387
00:15:58,024 --> 00:15:59,759
into a completely
different stratosphere.
388
00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:03,095
- Diamond ring wearin',
kiss stealin'-
389
00:16:03,196 --> 00:16:03,996
Woo.
390
00:16:04,063 --> 00:16:04,997
-wheelin dealin',
391
00:16:05,064 --> 00:16:08,835
Limousine ridin',
jet flyin', son of a gun.
392
00:16:08,835 --> 00:16:10,703
- He was that arrogant.
393
00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:12,271
If you saw him, you want
to run up to him and slap him.
394
00:16:13,072 --> 00:16:14,774
- Take a look at that, huh?
395
00:16:14,841 --> 00:16:17,877
Arnold Schwarzenegger, be
glad you're making movies.
396
00:16:18,911 --> 00:16:21,647
- People hated Flair because
Flair would flaunt his money.
397
00:16:21,714 --> 00:16:25,184
- My shoes cost more
than your house.
398
00:16:25,184 --> 00:16:27,386
- When you really think about it
and you're honest with yourself,
399
00:16:27,386 --> 00:16:28,688
well no you hate Ric Flair
400
00:16:28,754 --> 00:16:29,856
because he's everything
you're not.
401
00:16:31,190 --> 00:16:32,191
- To enhance my image,
402
00:16:32,258 --> 00:16:34,827
I spent hundreds of thousands
of dollars.
403
00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:36,295
Woo.
404
00:16:36,395 --> 00:16:37,763
I was living in
the biggest house
405
00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:40,233
on the
biggest side of town.
406
00:16:40,299 --> 00:16:41,868
- I got a limousine
sitting out there.
407
00:16:41,868 --> 00:16:46,906
A mile long, with 25 women
just dying for me to go.
408
00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:48,474
Woo.
409
00:16:48,541 --> 00:16:52,278
- Every guy who's got
testosterone in their body
410
00:16:52,345 --> 00:16:54,881
wants to been Ric Flair.
411
00:16:54,947 --> 00:16:56,382
- Jan, darling.
412
00:16:56,482 --> 00:16:57,950
I didn't expect to see you
for another week or two.
413
00:16:58,751 --> 00:17:00,820
- Ric just came
across as authentic
414
00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,622
and the fans bought into it.
415
00:17:04,757 --> 00:17:06,826
- When my name is
on the marquee, baby,
416
00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:08,995
you know you're seeing
the best there is.
417
00:17:12,231 --> 00:17:13,266
- With the
Nature Boy, Ric Flair.
418
00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:14,800
He was the
champion of the world.
419
00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:18,638
When I seen his full flown
gimmick start to un-unveil
420
00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:21,240
in front of me, I said, "Wow,
this gonna be easy."
421
00:17:22,708 --> 00:17:25,444
When you take the title,
that makes you the greatest
422
00:17:25,511 --> 00:17:26,746
at what you do.
423
00:17:26,846 --> 00:17:28,648
And right now Ric
Flair has that title.
424
00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:32,518
And someday Dusty Rhodes
wants that title back.
425
00:17:37,823 --> 00:17:40,593
- You're looking at the World's
Heavyweight Champion,
426
00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:41,661
Nature Boy Ric Flair.
427
00:17:42,662 --> 00:17:44,564
- I was the best wrestler alive.
428
00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:46,065
I knew it.
429
00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:47,033
Best dressed.
430
00:17:47,099 --> 00:17:48,367
Best everything.
431
00:17:48,434 --> 00:17:50,136
I knew how good I was back then.
432
00:17:50,202 --> 00:17:51,237
I didn't even think about it.
433
00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:54,473
I'm alligators and Rolex
watches-
434
00:17:54,473 --> 00:17:55,775
from head to toe.
435
00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:56,842
I'm the man.
436
00:17:57,777 --> 00:17:58,844
- He knew how good he was.
437
00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:01,213
He was the man there,
you know what I mean?
438
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,515
He needed a babyface.
439
00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:03,716
There I was.
440
00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:06,218
- Ric Flair is a great champion,
441
00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:09,689
and the conflict between
me and him will come to pass.
442
00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:13,025
- What a man.
443
00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:15,528
The American Dream,
Dusty Rhodes.
444
00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:21,000
- Dusty is a hero all over the
United States at that point.
445
00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:23,669
- Nature Boy, Ric Flair.
446
00:18:23,736 --> 00:18:25,371
World's Heavyweight Champion.
447
00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:26,639
Fancy robe.
448
00:18:26,706 --> 00:18:27,974
Fancy cars.
449
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,175
Fancy ladies.
450
00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:31,310
But Dusty Rhodes,
the American Dream,
451
00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:33,913
knows you and
knows you well.
452
00:18:33,913 --> 00:18:38,751
- You can't have an ego and not,
you know, have some rivalry.
453
00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:41,887
Dusty had a power in
his business influence,
454
00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:43,556
and Ric had this power
455
00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:46,826
because he was just the number
one performer in the world.
456
00:18:46,826 --> 00:18:48,961
- Woo.
457
00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:52,264
- You have two of the
best and two of the greatest
458
00:18:52,331 --> 00:18:53,699
at the same time.
459
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,535
There's always going to be a
bit of jealousy and rivalry.
460
00:18:56,602 --> 00:18:58,070
That's what made it so good.
461
00:18:58,137 --> 00:19:01,007
- You nothing happening
son of a plumber.
462
00:19:01,073 --> 00:19:03,275
You can't stand
the fact that I was born
463
00:19:03,342 --> 00:19:04,844
with a golden spoon in my mouth
can ya?
464
00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:05,878
Huh?
465
00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:07,146
- Promos are everything.
466
00:19:07,246 --> 00:19:10,750
And to be a special superstar,
to be a memorable one,
467
00:19:10,750 --> 00:19:13,319
you have to be able to
deliver in the promo.
468
00:19:13,386 --> 00:19:14,987
- You're gonna call
your ladies on the phone
469
00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:16,322
and you're gonna say,
470
00:19:16,389 --> 00:19:20,826
"Ladies, how did
I lose that world title
471
00:19:20,893 --> 00:19:22,528
to the American Dream?"
472
00:19:22,595 --> 00:19:23,462
- Big Dust-
473
00:19:23,562 --> 00:19:24,864
You got no belt.
474
00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:26,265
You got no life.
475
00:19:26,332 --> 00:19:27,867
You got nothin' to brag about.
476
00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:27,900
Nothin' to stand on
477
00:19:29,402 --> 00:19:31,303
- Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes
promos,
478
00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:33,072
how they played
off of each other.
479
00:19:33,072 --> 00:19:35,474
They were just so
opposite, but so great.
480
00:19:35,474 --> 00:19:37,643
But they made you
listen to every word
481
00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:38,544
they were talking
about.
482
00:19:38,644 --> 00:19:39,278
- Ric Flair-
483
00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:40,312
It's not over.
484
00:19:40,379 --> 00:19:41,347
It will never be over.
485
00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:43,949
I'm going to mess
you up real bad.
486
00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:46,919
- The job of that interview,
especially during that day,
487
00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:50,389
was to talk people into the
building, was to sell tickets.
488
00:19:50,456 --> 00:19:53,392
I think when the two were paired
together, the great promo,
489
00:19:53,459 --> 00:19:54,560
plus the great booking-
490
00:19:55,428 --> 00:19:56,762
magic.
491
00:19:56,829 --> 00:20:01,100
- Dusty Rhodes, our
egos ride side by side.
492
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:06,205
He doesn't like me getting ahead
and that hurts me right here,
493
00:20:06,272 --> 00:20:07,673
for him to get ahead
494
00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:11,077
- To kill Ric Flair is to take
what he wants
495
00:20:11,143 --> 00:20:13,679
more than anything
in the world, what he has,
496
00:20:13,746 --> 00:20:15,514
and that's that gold
around his waist.
497
00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:18,484
- 1983 was the first Starrcade.
498
00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:21,120
So you fast forward a year
later when they have
499
00:20:21,187 --> 00:20:24,156
the closed circuit again,
it's Dusty versus Flair.
500
00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:26,525
- There was a lot of bells and
whistles on that match, right?
501
00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:29,628
They had a "Smokin' Joe" Frazier
as the special referee.
502
00:20:29,628 --> 00:20:31,363
- Dusty Rhodes and Ric Flair.
503
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:33,299
Let's keep it clean.
504
00:20:33,399 --> 00:20:34,633
Let's keep it fair.
505
00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:38,671
- It was also a million
dollar, winner take all.
506
00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:41,507
- There's a purported
purse of a million dollars.
507
00:20:41,607 --> 00:20:43,676
Exaggerated, undoubtedly.
508
00:20:43,676 --> 00:20:47,680
But still, fans believed that.
509
00:20:47,746 --> 00:20:50,216
- It's me and you
and one million dollars.
510
00:20:50,282 --> 00:20:53,319
I don't want to hear from
you, because now is the time
511
00:20:53,385 --> 00:20:56,622
that the talkin' stops and
the fightin' begins.
512
00:20:56,722 --> 00:21:00,226
- I'm going to walk in this
Coliseum Thanksgiving night,
513
00:21:00,292 --> 00:21:03,596
and I'm going to be ready
for any kind of action.
514
00:21:03,662 --> 00:21:05,164
Woo.
515
00:21:06,499 --> 00:21:08,868
- It was like it was real.
516
00:21:09,568 --> 00:21:10,703
What was real in it
517
00:21:10,803 --> 00:21:14,206
was two mega egos who
518
00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:16,709
both believed they were the guy.
519
00:21:16,809 --> 00:21:18,878
In our business, you have to
think that.
520
00:21:19,311 --> 00:21:22,014
- One thing
I'm sick and tired of
521
00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:23,349
sick and tired of
522
00:21:23,449 --> 00:21:27,219
is that goofy looking hat on top
of your head.
523
00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:28,821
I'm tired of looking at that
hat.
524
00:21:28,921 --> 00:21:30,489
I'm just gonna slip it off,
525
00:21:30,556 --> 00:21:31,991
and throw it out to the fans.
526
00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:37,363
- Just a little preview fans
527
00:21:37,429 --> 00:21:40,633
of what it's all gonna be like
at Starrcade '84.
528
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,035
- You didn't feel like
they were cutting the promo.
529
00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:44,003
They were-
530
00:21:44,069 --> 00:21:46,005
They were talking and
they believed every word
531
00:21:46,071 --> 00:21:46,672
that they were saying.
532
00:21:46,672 --> 00:21:47,573
- Yeah
533
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,707
- This is what-
this is how I feel.
534
00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:49,642
And I'm telling you that,
535
00:21:49,708 --> 00:21:50,709
and I know you feel it too.
536
00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:52,845
- And whether you
like it or not.
537
00:21:52,912 --> 00:21:55,915
I'm going to be the
man after Starrcade.
538
00:21:56,382 --> 00:21:57,750
This is mine.
539
00:21:57,816 --> 00:22:00,319
- When you're listening to them
speak, it's like it's a rhythm.
540
00:22:00,386 --> 00:22:01,387
It's almost like a song.
541
00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:02,922
And you're just like,"Wow."
542
00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:05,424
And so to hear it like that,
you know, from both sides.
543
00:22:05,424 --> 00:22:06,559
- Yeah.
544
00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:08,794
- Both guys were so good
at this, and you were just,
545
00:22:08,861 --> 00:22:10,663
you were just waiting to see
what was going to happen next.
546
00:22:12,865 --> 00:22:15,801
- The tension is mounting
here at the Greensboro Coliseum.
547
00:22:16,468 --> 00:22:19,972
- A one million dollar challenge
match
548
00:22:21,273 --> 00:22:24,276
for the NWA World Heavyweight
Championship.
549
00:22:25,511 --> 00:22:26,946
- It caught on.
550
00:22:27,046 --> 00:22:28,714
People came
from everywhere for it.
551
00:22:29,481 --> 00:22:30,683
Nothing like it in the world.
552
00:22:30,749 --> 00:22:32,384
We were rockin' and rollin'.
553
00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:36,188
- Our special referee,
"Smokin' Joe" Frazier.
554
00:22:36,255 --> 00:22:37,523
and this is the moment
555
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:39,391
that we've all been waiting for
right here.
556
00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:41,393
- You know, it was amazing.
557
00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:44,196
They loved, uh, you
know what I was selling.
558
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:45,764
They got it.
559
00:22:45,831 --> 00:22:47,700
Sometimes it's just that
little extra something
560
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,636
Makes the rivalry
really, really powerful.
561
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:53,038
- There goes Flair,
over the top rope.
562
00:22:54,273 --> 00:22:55,574
- Starrcade '84.
563
00:22:55,641 --> 00:22:59,011
A lot of people are truly
convinced that Dusty Rhodes
564
00:22:59,078 --> 00:23:02,681
is going to win the NWA
World Heavyweight Championship.
565
00:23:03,949 --> 00:23:06,819
- Dusty Rhodes
slammed into the ring post.
566
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,089
He has got a bad cut.
567
00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:11,991
It appears to be
on the right eye.
568
00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:14,560
- Dusty starts to bleed.
569
00:23:15,261 --> 00:23:16,128
- Referee saying, wait a minute.
570
00:23:16,195 --> 00:23:17,696
He's gotta check that eye.
571
00:23:17,796 --> 00:23:19,865
As Dusty Rhodes is
pushing him away.
572
00:23:19,865 --> 00:23:21,467
- It could be a
very serious injury.
573
00:23:22,601 --> 00:23:24,236
- Dusty was bleeding
too much, and in wrestling,
574
00:23:24,303 --> 00:23:25,871
you never stopped a match
because of blood,
575
00:23:25,938 --> 00:23:27,006
but, you know,
576
00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:28,073
- It was too much.
577
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:29,708
- Joe's a boxing guy,
so he's getting in there.
578
00:23:29,808 --> 00:23:30,709
- He's the cutman.
579
00:23:30,709 --> 00:23:32,645
- "You gotta stop the match."
he's like.
580
00:23:32,711 --> 00:23:34,113
Oh, people were so mad.
581
00:23:34,179 --> 00:23:35,080
[bell rings]
582
00:23:35,147 --> 00:23:37,850
- Joe Frazier he has stopped it
583
00:23:37,916 --> 00:23:39,351
because of the cut on the eye.
584
00:23:39,785 --> 00:23:41,186
- Jim Crockett.
585
00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:42,354
- A million dollar check.
586
00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:45,824
- Handling him the uh
one million dollars check to uh,
587
00:23:45,891 --> 00:23:47,192
Ric Flair.
588
00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:49,528
- I got in that
ring to go 120%
589
00:23:49,595 --> 00:23:52,464
and don't think he
wasn't in there going 120%.
590
00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:54,566
It's unfortunate he
suffered the cut.
591
00:23:54,633 --> 00:23:57,569
Whether Joe-Joe Frazier should
have stopped the match or not,
592
00:23:57,636 --> 00:23:58,637
It's not my business.
593
00:23:59,471 --> 00:24:00,706
All I went in that ring-
594
00:24:00,806 --> 00:24:02,608
- After Starrcade,
things kind of cooled down
595
00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:04,810
between Ric Flair
and Dusty Rhodes.
596
00:24:06,879 --> 00:24:09,415
Ric ends up respecting Dusty.
597
00:24:09,481 --> 00:24:11,150
The two form
kind of a partnership,
598
00:24:11,150 --> 00:24:13,218
and Ric Flair for a short
period of time
599
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:14,286
becomes a hero.
600
00:24:15,854 --> 00:24:17,022
- You got to reinvent yourself.
601
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:19,391
Don't reinvent the character,
602
00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,260
but you have to change
this a little bit.
603
00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:23,662
- Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair,
604
00:24:23,762 --> 00:24:26,999
as they all continue to go at
it in that ring.
605
00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:30,569
- Is this going to be a
start of a new allegiance?
606
00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:40,713
- As you can see, Ric Flair's
hand is being raised in victory.
607
00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:45,617
- September 1985 Ric Flair
is in the ring and Nikita Koloff
608
00:24:45,718 --> 00:24:48,287
and Ivan Koloff
are beating him up.
609
00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,022
- Stomping away.
610
00:24:50,122 --> 00:24:52,591
It's a two on one situation
and coming to the aid
611
00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:54,927
of the World
Heavyweight Champion.
612
00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:57,429
Dusty has cleared
the ring and there they stand,
613
00:24:57,429 --> 00:24:58,764
both of them in the cage.
614
00:24:59,264 --> 00:25:01,266
- Instead of the two teaming up,
615
00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:03,435
suddenly, Flair's allies,
616
00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:04,803
Ole and Arn Anderson.
617
00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:08,006
- Look here,
from behind.
618
00:25:08,073 --> 00:25:09,475
That's the Andersons
619
00:25:09,541 --> 00:25:10,476
It's a two on one right now.
620
00:25:10,476 --> 00:25:12,244
Not only that, look
what Flair is doing.
621
00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:13,879
He is padlocking that cage.
622
00:25:13,946 --> 00:25:16,215
Dusty Rhodes is helpless.
623
00:25:16,281 --> 00:25:18,617
- They destroy Dusty Rhodes.
624
00:25:19,752 --> 00:25:22,187
- Down he goes on that
left foot of Dusty Rhodes.
625
00:25:22,788 --> 00:25:24,990
- They break his leg.
626
00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:26,325
- It's panic in the ring.
627
00:25:26,392 --> 00:25:28,627
- My dad, being the
dirtiest player in the game,
628
00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:30,229
just makes you
hate him more.
629
00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:32,865
- We're at the point of
desperation right now.
630
00:25:32,931 --> 00:25:34,266
- We had a riot that night.
631
00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,468
It took us over an hour to
get out of the ring.
632
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:41,440
- All of these angles
on how to build a rivalry
633
00:25:41,507 --> 00:25:45,310
and make it seem
real is really the blueprint
634
00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:47,746
of not just
modern pro wrestling,
635
00:25:47,846 --> 00:25:49,615
but all of reality television.
636
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:53,986
- That face sure
tells it all, Tony.
637
00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:57,022
- I felt like I was
watching a crime,
638
00:25:57,122 --> 00:25:59,058
and I was so young
when I saw this,
639
00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:00,859
but uh, you knew there
was something there.
640
00:26:00,959 --> 00:26:04,863
And the birth of the Four
Horsemen was uh something
641
00:26:04,963 --> 00:26:06,265
that took that rivalry
642
00:26:06,331 --> 00:26:08,500
to a whole different place.
643
00:26:09,435 --> 00:26:12,905
- We told Dusty Rhodes
we was gonna break his leg
644
00:26:13,005 --> 00:26:14,039
and we broke his leg.
645
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,909
- The Four Horsemen, that
was the first faction
646
00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:19,945
in pro wrestling where ya
just had four dudes.
647
00:26:20,045 --> 00:26:21,080
It's us against the world.
648
00:26:22,548 --> 00:26:25,684
- You had Arn Anderson,
Ole Anderson,
649
00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:28,487
Tully Blanchard,
and J.J. Dillon.
650
00:26:28,554 --> 00:26:29,955
He was the manager.
651
00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:34,159
They began interfering
on Ric Flair's behalf.
652
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,029
- The Four Horsemen
are really on a roll.
653
00:26:37,629 --> 00:26:39,665
- They got booed out
of the building,
654
00:26:39,665 --> 00:26:42,167
but everyone thought they were
so cool at the same time.
655
00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:44,870
People were sitting in
the crowd wearing suits.
656
00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:46,071
- It's a supergroup.
657
00:26:46,138 --> 00:26:47,206
It's like the Avengers.
658
00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:49,174
They came together like
the Avengers they assembled.
659
00:26:49,241 --> 00:26:50,876
And now you
better watch ya ass.
660
00:26:51,743 --> 00:26:54,646
- Everyone has got to watch
out for the Four Horsemen now.
661
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,217
- To this day, the greatest
faction that's ever existed.
662
00:26:58,317 --> 00:26:59,952
It was magic for a long time.
663
00:27:00,752 --> 00:27:02,154
- Dusty Rhodes-
664
00:27:02,221 --> 00:27:05,224
Ha, I hope you live
through it, brother.
665
00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:07,359
- I mean, you got this common
man that everybody loves
666
00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:08,961
and you got four against one,
667
00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:11,430
so he's always
fighting against the odds.
668
00:27:11,497 --> 00:27:12,698
It was just a perfect matchup.
669
00:27:13,398 --> 00:27:15,000
- What in the world is going on?
670
00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:17,970
- They had the legendary
"Hard Times" promo-
671
00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:18,704
- Right.
672
00:27:18,804 --> 00:27:19,671
- -came out ll of this.
673
00:27:19,738 --> 00:27:20,672
- It's Dusty Rhodes,
674
00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:22,808
and Dusty, your fans welcome you
back, man.
675
00:27:23,876 --> 00:27:25,911
- I don't have to say a lot more
676
00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:28,046
about the way
I feel about Ric Flair.
677
00:27:28,714 --> 00:27:30,883
No respect, no honor.
678
00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:34,553
He put "Hard Times" on
Dusty Rhodes and his family.
679
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,756
And without
thinking one second
680
00:27:37,823 --> 00:27:39,358
of what I was
going to say.
681
00:27:40,893 --> 00:27:42,027
It just came out.
682
00:27:42,094 --> 00:27:44,630
You don't know what "Hard Times"
are, daddy.
683
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:47,099
"Hard Times" are when the
textile workers
684
00:27:47,199 --> 00:27:48,400
around this country
685
00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:52,170
are out of work and got 4 or 5
kids and can't pay their wages,
686
00:27:52,237 --> 00:27:53,672
can't buy their food.
687
00:27:53,739 --> 00:27:56,008
And one word led to
another, to another to another.
688
00:27:56,074 --> 00:27:59,311
And it built and it
built and it built.
689
00:27:59,311 --> 00:28:02,915
And "Hard Times" are when a
man has worked at a job
690
00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:06,385
30 years, 30 years,
they give him a watch,
691
00:28:06,451 --> 00:28:07,553
kick him in the butt,
692
00:28:07,619 --> 00:28:11,190
and say, hey, a computer
took your place, daddy.
693
00:28:11,256 --> 00:28:12,457
That's "Hard Times".
694
00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:15,627
- I mean, think about
that period in the 80's.
695
00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:18,330
What was
happening in US society.
696
00:28:20,132 --> 00:28:22,868
The biggest shows
were Dynasty and Dallas.
697
00:28:22,968 --> 00:28:26,905
You know, this total exaltation
of the super rich of the time.
698
00:28:27,005 --> 00:28:29,441
But there was an underbelly
underneath that.
699
00:28:29,508 --> 00:28:33,712
Working class people whose
voice was not necessarily heard
700
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,447
in the broader culture.
701
00:28:35,514 --> 00:28:38,116
And yet Dusty Rhodes was heard.
702
00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:42,754
- And Ric Flair, you put
"Hard Times" on this country
703
00:28:42,821 --> 00:28:44,356
by taking Dusty Rhodes out.
704
00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:46,325
- Dusty was able
to bring it home.
705
00:28:47,292 --> 00:28:50,796
In that one promo to
let you know
706
00:28:50,862 --> 00:28:51,964
that he felt what you felt,
707
00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:53,865
and you wanted him t
to win for that.
708
00:28:53,865 --> 00:28:58,036
- I will be the next World's
Heavyweight Champion
709
00:28:58,103 --> 00:29:00,639
on this "Hard Time" blues.
710
00:29:02,507 --> 00:29:04,977
- Just how much is riding on
this match when you're talking
711
00:29:05,043 --> 00:29:07,112
about the World's
Heavyweight Championship,
712
00:29:07,179 --> 00:29:08,947
you're talking about
all of the marbles.
713
00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:12,918
- Ric Flair and Dusty were
really rivals in real life.
714
00:29:12,985 --> 00:29:15,020
They both wanted one thing,
715
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,390
that top spot and that creates
an incredible dynamic.
716
00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:22,227
- We just made music, man.
717
00:29:22,227 --> 00:29:23,428
We rolled.
718
00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:24,796
No pressure.
719
00:29:24,863 --> 00:29:26,064
He was a perfect babyface.
720
00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:27,199
I was the perfect heel.
721
00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:31,670
- Looks pretty dark right now
for the champion.
722
00:29:33,272 --> 00:29:34,706
- Fans of Dusty Rhodes backing
him,
723
00:29:34,806 --> 00:29:36,875
wanting to see him win
the NWA title
724
00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:38,677
from The Nature Boy Ric Flair.
725
00:29:38,744 --> 00:29:39,544
He had it.
726
00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:40,712
He was going for it.
727
00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:42,247
He had the Bionic elbow going.
728
00:29:42,314 --> 00:29:43,682
Everything was just perfect.
729
00:29:45,851 --> 00:29:46,718
- The referee is down.
730
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:47,619
- Oh.
731
00:29:47,719 --> 00:29:48,987
- Tommy is really out
of it down there.
732
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:53,191
Here's Arn Anderson.
733
00:29:53,258 --> 00:29:55,160
- Arn Anderson came
charging into the ring
734
00:29:55,227 --> 00:29:57,195
after Dusty Rhodes.
735
00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:00,866
Oh that's-that's Ole
Anderson now in the ring.
736
00:30:00,866 --> 00:30:02,401
- Ole
737
00:30:03,902 --> 00:30:05,771
- Ole caught Dusty Rhodes from
behind.
738
00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:07,572
- Another referee has come in
739
00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:09,608
because Tommy Young
is still down.
740
00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:11,410
He's wrapped him up.
741
00:30:12,678 --> 00:30:13,478
He got him.
742
00:30:13,545 --> 00:30:15,280
[bell rings]
743
00:30:15,914 --> 00:30:18,884
- Audience goes home thinking,
wow, my guy's the new champion.
744
00:30:19,785 --> 00:30:21,353
- Dusty Rhodes has done it.
745
00:30:22,521 --> 00:30:25,290
- That night, Dusty Rhodes
pinned Nature Boy Ric Flair
746
00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:28,326
on Starrcade '85, and everyone
thought, including myself,
747
00:30:28,393 --> 00:30:30,429
that he was the World
Heavyweight Champion.
748
00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:32,998
However, Bob Geigel, the
president of the NWA,
749
00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:35,467
has given the belt back to
Nature Boy Ric Flair
750
00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:38,203
because of a ruling made by
referee Tommy Young.
751
00:30:39,471 --> 00:30:40,605
- Let's take a look, Tommy,
752
00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:42,307
and they're your hands on the
right of the screen,
753
00:30:42,407 --> 00:30:44,476
right there when you see Arn
Anderson in.
754
00:30:44,476 --> 00:30:46,411
That is where I'm
assuming you're calling
755
00:30:46,478 --> 00:30:47,512
for the disqualification.
756
00:30:47,579 --> 00:30:48,814
But when you were knocked out,
757
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,515
you were not able to make that
call right there at that time.
758
00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:51,650
- That is correct.
759
00:30:51,717 --> 00:30:52,751
Mr. Rhodes-
760
00:30:52,884 --> 00:30:54,986
He had thought he became
World Heavyweight Champion.
761
00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:55,821
- Well, it's obvious-
762
00:30:55,921 --> 00:30:57,422
- Dusty's championship victory
763
00:30:57,522 --> 00:30:59,825
didn't count because
the pinfall didn't count
764
00:30:59,891 --> 00:31:01,860
because Ole and
Arn Anderson come out
765
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,463
and that resulted
in a disqualification.
766
00:31:04,563 --> 00:31:07,432
And as we know, a world
title will only change hands
767
00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:09,000
on pinfall or submission.
768
00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:11,636
- They say nothing about
Dusty Rhodes defeating Ric Flair
769
00:31:11,703 --> 00:31:14,172
Starrcade '85 which I did.
770
00:31:14,239 --> 00:31:15,273
So Ric Flair-
771
00:31:15,340 --> 00:31:17,509
- Dusty Rhodes at this point is
the booker.
772
00:31:17,609 --> 00:31:18,744
He's booking this stuff.
773
00:31:18,844 --> 00:31:21,346
He's the one who's deciding
what's going to occur
774
00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:22,481
in the match.
775
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:26,785
These types of finishes would
fire up fans to go see
776
00:31:26,852 --> 00:31:29,087
these guys clash again.
777
00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:30,489
- Dusty Rhodes
778
00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:31,223
- Tell 'em Ric.
779
00:31:31,323 --> 00:31:32,224
- Tell 'em Ric.
780
00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:34,392
- It's only just
begun,
781
00:31:35,026 --> 00:31:35,861
[laughing]
782
00:31:35,961 --> 00:31:36,928
- We got 'em right
where we want 'em.
783
00:31:37,195 --> 00:31:38,630
- As the rivalry evolved,
784
00:31:38,697 --> 00:31:41,433
so did the production
value behind the storytelling.
785
00:31:42,434 --> 00:31:46,404
You'd see handheld camera shots
of the Four Horsemen tailing
786
00:31:46,471 --> 00:31:48,774
Dusty Rhodes down the road.
787
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,875
As all this was happening,
788
00:31:49,975 --> 00:31:53,545
Dusty Rhodes was that creative
force behind the scenes.
789
00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:57,115
This wasn't stuff that had
really been shown
790
00:31:57,115 --> 00:31:59,217
on wrestling television
before this point.
791
00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:02,320
- Poor Dusty got
beat up by his car.
792
00:32:02,387 --> 00:32:04,556
I mean, just tried
to break his leg.
793
00:32:04,623 --> 00:32:06,324
I mean, did everything
you could to him.
794
00:32:07,092 --> 00:32:07,959
The Four Horsemen,
795
00:32:08,026 --> 00:32:09,761
and these guys are
beating our hero up.
796
00:32:11,096 --> 00:32:13,432
- Four horsemen always
had Ric Flair's back,
797
00:32:13,498 --> 00:32:16,034
so Dusty had to be
careful because every time
798
00:32:16,101 --> 00:32:17,969
he was
wrestling Ric Flair,
799
00:32:18,036 --> 00:32:19,638
he was actually
wrestling with four guys.
800
00:32:20,705 --> 00:32:22,174
- Nobody interfere.
801
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,911
The four horsemen, they need to
ride on another planet
802
00:32:26,511 --> 00:32:29,281
because I reserved the
stratosphere for me and you.
803
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,355
- Welcome to the
Great American Bash.
804
00:32:37,422 --> 00:32:39,791
14 cities in 33 days.
805
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,427
The greatest wrestlers, the
greatest wrestling matches
806
00:32:42,494 --> 00:32:43,862
and the greatest wrestling fans.
807
00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:48,667
- The year is 1986 and another
brainchild of the you know,
808
00:32:48,733 --> 00:32:51,036
American Dream, The
Great American Bash.
809
00:32:51,036 --> 00:32:52,771
- And This Great American Bash.
810
00:32:52,838 --> 00:32:57,709
It felt to me like their version
of the Rock 'n' Wrestling,
811
00:32:57,809 --> 00:32:58,510
like WWE.
812
00:32:58,610 --> 00:32:59,244
- That's right.
813
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:01,413
It was mainly Dusty's brain.
814
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,115
Dusty's brain was
that thing ran differently
815
00:33:04,115 --> 00:33:05,217
than the rest of the world.
816
00:33:05,283 --> 00:33:07,085
He was that creative.
817
00:33:07,152 --> 00:33:08,787
- Ain't it good to be alive
818
00:33:08,854 --> 00:33:11,289
and raising hell at
Greensboro, North Carolina?
819
00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:14,392
- Great American
Bash on tour, man.
820
00:33:14,459 --> 00:33:19,197
And we hired everybody from
George Jones to Waylon Jennings,
821
00:33:19,264 --> 00:33:21,399
went on the road
and it worked.
822
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:22,467
It sold out everywhere.
823
00:33:23,268 --> 00:33:25,070
- This is Waylon Jennings, and
I'm looking forward
824
00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:27,305
to being a part of The Great
American Bash '86.
825
00:33:29,441 --> 00:33:31,409
- The Great American Bash tour.
826
00:33:31,476 --> 00:33:34,312
They went from major
city to major city.
827
00:33:34,312 --> 00:33:37,749
And the most important part
every single night,
828
00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:41,386
Ric Flair was defending
the World's Championship.
829
00:33:41,453 --> 00:33:44,122
- Unprecedented signed the
contract to wrestle each night
830
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:47,726
of the Bash and to defend the
NWA World Heavyweight Title.
831
00:33:48,293 --> 00:33:52,631
- Throughout this tour,
we have been seeing Ric Flair
832
00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:54,699
escape with the title.
833
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,602
- One thing that Ric did,
I think better than anyone
834
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:58,670
is that he sold a fight.
835
00:33:59,437 --> 00:34:01,406
You wanted to see Ric
get beaten and that,
836
00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:03,308
I think, was what
was so compelling
837
00:34:03,408 --> 00:34:06,044
when people would come to watch
Ric Flair, they wanted to see-
838
00:34:06,111 --> 00:34:07,546
- No one got beat up better
than Ric Flair.
839
00:34:07,646 --> 00:34:08,446
- People-
840
00:34:08,513 --> 00:34:09,514
- Oh my god.
841
00:34:09,648 --> 00:34:10,715
- yeah, people wanted to see
him get his ass kicked.
842
00:34:10,782 --> 00:34:11,750
- Yeah.
843
00:34:13,084 --> 00:34:16,988
- On night number 12 right
before the Great American Bash
844
00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:19,958
tour is over,
Dusty and Flair
845
00:34:20,025 --> 00:34:23,762
meet in a cage in
Greensboro, North Carolina.
846
00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,398
- A fellow named Dusty Rhodes.
847
00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:29,234
He hasn't got the guts
848
00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:32,938
to back up what it tells
all of you is going to do.
849
00:34:33,672 --> 00:34:34,673
- It's only fitting.
850
00:34:34,673 --> 00:34:35,874
It's only right that
it comes down
851
00:34:35,941 --> 00:34:37,676
to Dusty Rhodes
and Ric Flair.
852
00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:39,878
If you think I'm through
853
00:34:39,878 --> 00:34:42,847
on my quest for the
World's Heavyweight Title,
854
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:44,683
you're damn wrong
television land.
855
00:34:45,550 --> 00:34:48,920
- He's fought
for so long to beat Ric Flair
856
00:34:48,987 --> 00:34:51,823
to get that championship
belt around his waist.
857
00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:55,760
But there was all these
obstacles that stood in his way,
858
00:34:55,827 --> 00:34:57,963
- And that was
a tremendous blow.
859
00:34:58,029 --> 00:35:02,100
- This may be one of the longer
chases in wrestling history.
860
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,136
It's loss after loss after loss,
861
00:35:05,203 --> 00:35:07,906
but I would say from
a wrestling perspective,
862
00:35:08,006 --> 00:35:10,308
those weren't losses.
863
00:35:10,408 --> 00:35:12,610
That is the
definition of the chase.
864
00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:18,049
- Five years after losing the
title to Ric Flair,
865
00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:20,185
Dusty Rhodes gets his
opportunity to win the gold
866
00:35:20,251 --> 00:35:22,287
again at The Great
American Bash.
867
00:35:22,354 --> 00:35:25,290
- Yeah, and this is monumental
because this is an angle,
868
00:35:25,357 --> 00:35:27,359
a storyline that lasted
almost a decade.
869
00:35:27,425 --> 00:35:28,593
I mean, that-that's amazing.
870
00:35:29,828 --> 00:35:32,263
- When Ric Flair and
Dusty Rhodes wrestle
871
00:35:32,364 --> 00:35:34,699
the two greatest wrestlers in
the world are colliding.
872
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,836
- The American dream
Dusty Rhodes
873
00:35:37,902 --> 00:35:40,438
wants Ric Flair and
wants that championship.
874
00:35:41,473 --> 00:35:43,475
- Because they're in the cage,
875
00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:47,145
It neutralizes the influence of
the Four Horsemen.
876
00:35:47,245 --> 00:35:50,148
Now it's going to be
one on one, man to man.
877
00:35:51,583 --> 00:35:53,318
- They've wrestled so many times
against each other before,
878
00:35:53,385 --> 00:35:55,987
but it's always
a new ball game
879
00:35:56,388 --> 00:35:58,423
each time you step into the
ring on a different occasion.
880
00:35:59,724 --> 00:36:02,027
- In 1986,
Dusty Rhodes fans
881
00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:06,898
had been on that
ride with Dusty for years.
882
00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:10,068
As they try and they try
and they try to get the title,
883
00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:12,203
that means that
they're the man.
884
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:15,974
But at the same time, to be the
man, you've got to beat the man.
885
00:36:17,275 --> 00:36:18,043
- There it is.
886
00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:19,077
There's your weapon.
887
00:36:19,144 --> 00:36:21,346
There's the thing that
makes a cage match
888
00:36:21,446 --> 00:36:23,682
the most dangerous
match in wrestling.
889
00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:27,786
- Dusty Rhodes had
to beat Ric Flair.
890
00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:29,387
He had to.
891
00:36:29,387 --> 00:36:30,388
It couldn't be something
892
00:36:30,455 --> 00:36:32,157
where Ric Flair always
came out on top.
893
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,661
- Ric has him exactly
where he wants him.
894
00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:37,729
Can he hold on?
895
00:36:45,136 --> 00:36:46,638
Can Dusty get out of it?
896
00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:47,906
- Only two ways, David,
897
00:36:47,972 --> 00:36:49,507
to reverse it on
Flair or to get to the ropes.
898
00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:54,946
- Dusty and Flair had been
going around for several years
899
00:36:54,946 --> 00:36:57,148
and the fans are really
anxious to see
900
00:36:57,215 --> 00:37:00,385
Dusty finally
claim that big prize.
901
00:37:01,152 --> 00:37:02,754
- You keep your mouth shut.
902
00:37:02,821 --> 00:37:03,988
- The fans are behind Dusty.
903
00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:05,256
Here he comes.
904
00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:06,458
Dusty caught him.
905
00:37:08,293 --> 00:37:10,261
- At first it was all Ric Flair.
906
00:37:10,328 --> 00:37:12,497
Now, it's all Dusty Rhodes.
907
00:37:14,532 --> 00:37:17,001
Small package has Ric.
908
00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:21,706
Dusty Rhodes has
just won the match.
909
00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,875
[bell rings]
910
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:27,712
- I remember throwing the
cushions of my couch
911
00:37:27,712 --> 00:37:28,746
up in the air.
912
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:31,349
Like all of these
really primal emotions
913
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,185
because we'd been
waiting for it for so long.
914
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:36,221
- What a moment.
915
00:37:36,287 --> 00:37:37,388
- Talk about the chase.
916
00:37:37,455 --> 00:37:39,824
If you look at the furthest
sections of that building,
917
00:37:39,891 --> 00:37:41,192
and people are losing their
mind,
918
00:37:41,993 --> 00:37:44,262
it's because they were
in on the chase with him.
919
00:37:44,863 --> 00:37:50,268
[crowd cheers]
920
00:37:52,403 --> 00:37:54,873
- Dusty winning that
title that last time,
921
00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:57,509
it just seemed
like that was
922
00:37:57,509 --> 00:38:00,512
"Okay, I'm done. I have nothing
else to accomplish here."
923
00:38:00,512 --> 00:38:01,546
- That's right.
924
00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:03,681
You put a nice button,
you put a nice button on it.
925
00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:07,152
- To say Ric Flair and Dusty
Rhodes have been influential
926
00:38:07,218 --> 00:38:09,154
in wrestling would be a
gross understatement.
927
00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:12,257
Not only did they have this
rivalry in the ring
928
00:38:12,357 --> 00:38:16,161
for the ages, but decades later,
they're both in positions
929
00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:19,030
where they're mentoring
the new generation.
930
00:38:20,064 --> 00:38:21,466
- Hey hey hey what's up man?
931
00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:23,368
- What's up guys?
932
00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:24,202
Looking good, man.
933
00:38:24,269 --> 00:38:24,969
- Hey.
934
00:38:25,036 --> 00:38:26,437
- I learned a lot from Ric.
935
00:38:26,504 --> 00:38:29,741
Ric was a big part of the
early stages of my career.
936
00:38:29,841 --> 00:38:31,810
He took me under his wing.
937
00:38:31,876 --> 00:38:33,344
I was lucky because I had Ric.
938
00:38:34,879 --> 00:38:38,383
- Dusty Rhodes took on a
position as the main coach,
939
00:38:38,483 --> 00:38:41,019
the teacher at the WWE's
Performance Center.
940
00:38:42,787 --> 00:38:44,789
- A teacher promo class
3 or 4 times a week.
941
00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:47,826
I'm looking for how you
communicate
942
00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:50,094
with what I named the
Red light district.
943
00:38:51,062 --> 00:38:52,263
Red light,
meaning the camera.
944
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:54,165
That's 20 something in here.
945
00:38:54,232 --> 00:38:55,967
When the red light's on
there, that's 15 million.
946
00:38:56,868 --> 00:38:58,770
You got to make them
believe who you are.
947
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:00,638
That's what I teach.
948
00:39:00,705 --> 00:39:01,639
It's one, two, three.
949
00:39:01,706 --> 00:39:02,807
And they're here
and they come down.
950
00:39:02,874 --> 00:39:04,309
They got to come down like
you just won the Super Bowl.
951
00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:05,043
- Exactly.
952
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:05,677
- You know what I'm saying?
953
00:39:05,743 --> 00:39:06,878
- Exactly.
954
00:39:06,945 --> 00:39:10,648
- As ironic as it is, one of the
people that walked through
955
00:39:10,715 --> 00:39:14,786
the Performance Center doors
to be molded by Dusty Rhodes
956
00:39:14,852 --> 00:39:16,421
was a Flair.
957
00:39:16,421 --> 00:39:19,224
- You really haven't
seen anything yet,
958
00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:21,893
and you've pushed
me to my limit.
959
00:39:24,062 --> 00:39:26,898
- Dusty was the guy with all the
wisdom they could all go to.
960
00:39:27,465 --> 00:39:30,602
To have my daughter, you know,
be training under him
961
00:39:30,668 --> 00:39:33,838
was a huge honor
for her and for me.
962
00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:37,442
- My most-my most
redeeming qualities.
963
00:39:37,508 --> 00:39:38,876
Yes, I know.
964
00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:43,548
The weekly struggle of figuring
out how to communicate
965
00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:46,584
in promos and getting
that out of me and,
966
00:39:46,651 --> 00:39:48,987
just constantly
making me believe
967
00:39:49,053 --> 00:39:51,789
that I had it in me
that I was going to be a star.
968
00:39:52,657 --> 00:39:54,192
He believed in me.
969
00:39:54,792 --> 00:39:57,195
- We're struggling trying to
cut promos in a way that's,
970
00:39:57,462 --> 00:39:58,830
you know, relatable to people.
971
00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,665
And he would just
make you feel so good.
972
00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:03,301
And the fact that Dusty Rhodes
believed in you was,
973
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,168
"Oh my gosh"
974
00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:05,203
you know what I mean?
975
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:06,437
Like, it just gave you-
976
00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:08,706
It gave you confidence and
he was so good
977
00:40:08,773 --> 00:40:10,408
at just giving people
confidence to go out
978
00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:11,609
and be the best
versions of themselves.
979
00:40:13,544 --> 00:40:17,382
- The legacy of Rhodes and
Flair is still going today.
980
00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:22,520
- Charlotte Flair
walking that aisle.
981
00:40:23,354 --> 00:40:26,357
- As amazing as
Dusty and Ric were,
982
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:29,227
the kids are so amazing that one
day they're just a lot of people
983
00:40:29,294 --> 00:40:30,428
are just going to
know them as their dads.
984
00:40:31,029 --> 00:40:33,998
- The American
Nightmare, Cody Rhodes.
985
00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:36,267
- It's so hard,
986
00:40:36,334 --> 00:40:39,203
especially when you come
from that kind of greatness.
987
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:41,239
You just have
huge shoes to fill.
988
00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:43,675
- A lot of people
would shy away from that.
989
00:40:43,741 --> 00:40:47,045
People would want to, like,
not be what their parents are.
990
00:40:47,111 --> 00:40:50,481
The way that Cody and Charlotte
have stepped into those shoes,
991
00:40:50,548 --> 00:40:52,817
and filled those shoes,
and try to exceed those shoes,
992
00:40:52,917 --> 00:40:54,819
and keep on perpetuating
that legacy.
993
00:40:54,886 --> 00:40:55,853
It's pretty remarkable.
994
00:40:59,624 --> 00:41:02,860
- The passion I have for this
industry is why I'm still here.
995
00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:05,663
One thing is for sure though,
when you go back and you look,
996
00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:07,665
you look at "Hard Times"
on the road.
997
00:41:07,665 --> 00:41:10,401
You look at driving down
the road night after night,
998
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:12,270
seven days in a row.
999
00:41:12,337 --> 00:41:15,907
And I looked across to see who
this seven day in a row marathon
1000
00:41:15,907 --> 00:41:18,343
was with, and it was the
greatest wrestler
1001
00:41:18,443 --> 00:41:21,779
in our industry's history,
the Nature Boy, Ric Flair.
1002
00:41:28,219 --> 00:41:29,454
- You're gonna kill me.
1003
00:41:29,554 --> 00:41:30,521
Yeah, I'm good.
1004
00:41:32,824 --> 00:41:33,591
- It'll be good.
1005
00:41:33,658 --> 00:41:36,027
- I know, I know it is.
1006
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:40,064
- Hold it together.
1007
00:41:40,131 --> 00:41:41,632
Get me through the night Natch.
1008
00:41:44,068 --> 00:41:44,969
- My idol.
1009
00:41:45,036 --> 00:41:46,771
He was the American
dream, Dusty Rhodes.
1010
00:41:49,273 --> 00:41:50,608
I used to say to them,
"What are you doing, man?"
1011
00:41:50,675 --> 00:41:51,876
He'd say, "I'm genius-in"
1012
00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:56,748
And he's a smart guy and he
adds a lot to this company.
1013
00:41:56,748 --> 00:41:57,849
Thank you Dream.
1014
00:41:57,915 --> 00:41:58,883
Love you.
1015
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:03,988
- Man, I think so many of the
best rivalries come
1016
00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:06,557
when it's there's a
layer of friendship there,
1017
00:42:06,624 --> 00:42:07,759
a deep layer of friendship.
1018
00:42:07,825 --> 00:42:09,627
But at the end of the day,
you still want to be the guy.
1019
00:42:09,694 --> 00:42:11,863
You still want to be the
one that comes out on top.
1020
00:42:12,330 --> 00:42:15,032
- Ric Flair, there's only one.
1021
00:42:15,099 --> 00:42:17,635
- The storyline was so
compelling, you were excited
1022
00:42:17,702 --> 00:42:19,437
to see what was
going to happen next.
1023
00:42:20,938 --> 00:42:25,143
- Ric Flair He put "Hard Times"
on Dusty Rhodes and his family.
1024
00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:27,412
Big Dust, you got no belt.
1025
00:42:27,478 --> 00:42:28,513
You got no life.
1026
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,848
- For Dusty and for Ric to go
around the country
1027
00:42:30,915 --> 00:42:33,484
fighting for that
championship was unbelievable.
1028
00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:34,719
- Dusty did it.
1029
00:42:36,954 --> 00:42:39,590
- Dusty was one of the greatest
in the history of this business.
1030
00:42:40,625 --> 00:42:42,460
Our first Starrcade,
1031
00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:44,062
I walked up to him,
center of the ring.
1032
00:42:44,062 --> 00:42:45,630
He's like "Kid-
1033
00:42:45,696 --> 00:42:46,764
Let's have fun."
1034
00:42:48,933 --> 00:42:50,068
We did.
1035
00:42:50,068 --> 00:42:51,235
Great chemistry.
1036
00:42:52,036 --> 00:42:54,472
- I watch you from a baby
and he moved on in to become
1037
00:42:54,472 --> 00:42:56,541
a legendary figure
in our industry.
1038
00:42:56,641 --> 00:42:58,810
- Ric Flair your-
1039
00:42:58,876 --> 00:42:59,744
Woo.
1040
00:42:59,844 --> 00:43:01,012
-livin' legend.
1041
00:43:01,546 --> 00:43:02,880
- Our rivalry was,
1042
00:43:02,947 --> 00:43:05,349
if not the biggest
in our industry.
1043
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:06,784
I don't know what would be.
1044
00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:08,619
I really don't.
73993
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