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the most famous human being in all of
the most famous human being in all of
the most famous human being in all of history was a first century Jewish
history was a first century Jewish
history was a first century Jewish revolutionary his name was Jesus
Christians believe Jesus was crucified
Christians believe Jesus was crucified
Christians believe Jesus was crucified died and on the third day rose from the
died and on the third day rose from the
died and on the third day rose from the dead and ascended into heaven
dead and ascended into heaven
dead and ascended into heaven but for two thousand years there have
but for two thousand years there have
but for two thousand years there have been those who've challenged the truth
been those who've challenged the truth
been those who've challenged the truth of this biblical story and some have
of this biblical story and some have
of this biblical story and some have died for expressing those doubts from
died for expressing those doubts from
died for expressing those doubts from Jerusalem to the villages of southern
Jerusalem to the villages of southern
Jerusalem to the villages of southern France from the wildness of distant
France from the wildness of distant
France from the wildness of distant Kashmir to the exotic Philippines we
Kashmir to the exotic Philippines we
Kashmir to the exotic Philippines we shall try to solve this 2,000 year old
shall try to solve this 2,000 year old
shall try to solve this 2,000 year old mystery we'll take a journey that asks
mystery we'll take a journey that asks
mystery we'll take a journey that asks did Jesus really died on the cross
the story of Christianity features not
the story of Christianity features not
the story of Christianity features not only the most famous name in history but
only the most famous name in history but
only the most famous name in history but also the most famous event in history
also the most famous event in history
also the most famous event in history the crucifixion for some or even many
the crucifixion for some or even many
the crucifixion for some or even many true believers the fact that Jesus was
true believers the fact that Jesus was
true believers the fact that Jesus was crucified died rose again and ascended
crucified died rose again and ascended
crucified died rose again and ascended into heaven can be literal truth but
into heaven can be literal truth but
into heaven can be literal truth but throughout history there have always
throughout history there have always
throughout history there have always been those sometimes Christians who've
been those sometimes Christians who've
been those sometimes Christians who've asked awkward questions would a man die
asked awkward questions would a man die
asked awkward questions would a man die after only six hours on the cross was he
after only six hours on the cross was he
after only six hours on the cross was he drugged what really happened in the
drugged what really happened in the
drugged what really happened in the Sepulcher and if Jesus didn't descend
Sepulcher and if Jesus didn't descend
Sepulcher and if Jesus didn't descend into heaven then where did he go
for many Christians these questions risk
for many Christians these questions risk
for many Christians these questions risk undermining the whole basis of
undermining the whole basis of
undermining the whole basis of Christianity and are extremely
Christianity and are extremely
Christianity and are extremely controversial the most crucial part of
controversial the most crucial part of
controversial the most crucial part of the story which all Christians are
the story which all Christians are
the story which all Christians are expected to believe is the idea that
expected to believe is the idea that
expected to believe is the idea that Jesus rose from the dead
Jesus rose from the dead
Jesus rose from the dead the resurrection
the resurrection is actually the primary
the resurrection is actually the primary
the resurrection is actually the primary story at the heart of Christianity
story at the heart of Christianity
story at the heart of Christianity without which you wouldn't have a
without which you wouldn't have a
without which you wouldn't have a movement you could have Christianity
movement you could have Christianity
movement you could have Christianity without the virgin birth however none of
without the virgin birth however none of
without the virgin birth however none of them tells it without a resurrection
them tells it without a resurrection
them tells it without a resurrection story despite the best efforts of the
story despite the best efforts of the
story despite the best efforts of the church the resurrection of Jesus and his
church the resurrection of Jesus and his
church the resurrection of Jesus and his later ascension into heaven have for
later ascension into heaven have for
later ascension into heaven have for 2,000 years been fertile ground for
2,000 years been fertile ground for
2,000 years been fertile ground for heresy some people suggest that Jesus
heresy some people suggest that Jesus
heresy some people suggest that Jesus was rescued from the crucifixion and
was rescued from the crucifixion and
was rescued from the crucifixion and escaped to live a secret life in
escaped to live a secret life in
escaped to live a secret life in southern France some have been convinced
southern France some have been convinced
southern France some have been convinced that Jesus survived and travelled to the
that Jesus survived and travelled to the
that Jesus survived and travelled to the mountain kingdoms of Kashmir where he
mountain kingdoms of Kashmir where he
mountain kingdoms of Kashmir where he lived to the age of 80 with the help of
lived to the age of 80 with the help of
lived to the age of 80 with the help of leading historians and theologians we
leading historians and theologians we
leading historians and theologians we will examine these most controversial
will examine these most controversial
will examine these most controversial theories to understand what happened to
theories to understand what happened to
theories to understand what happened to Jesus after the crucifixion we need
Jesus after the crucifixion we need
Jesus after the crucifixion we need first to look at the facts of his life
first to look at the facts of his life
first to look at the facts of his life but what is historical fact what is the
but what is historical fact what is the
but what is historical fact what is the evidence
almost all we currently think we know
almost all we currently think we know
almost all we currently think we know about Jesus comes from the four Gospels
about Jesus comes from the four Gospels
about Jesus comes from the four Gospels Matthew Mark Luke and John
but Matthew and John are the only gospel
but Matthew and John are the only gospel
but Matthew and John are the only gospel writers who were members of the 12
writers who were members of the 12
writers who were members of the 12 disciples the only ones who could have
disciples the only ones who could have
disciples the only ones who could have been present at the events they
been present at the events they
been present at the events they described
described
described the four Gospels were all apparently
the four Gospels were all apparently
the four Gospels were all apparently written between forty and hundred years
written between forty and hundred years
written between forty and hundred years after the crucifixion which Roman
after the crucifixion which Roman
after the crucifixion which Roman history tells us happened around 30 AD
history tells us happened around 30 AD
history tells us happened around 30 AD but despite the fact that we know them
but despite the fact that we know them
but despite the fact that we know them by those four names modern biblical
by those four names modern biblical
by those four names modern biblical scholars cannot be absolutely sure who
scholars cannot be absolutely sure who
scholars cannot be absolutely sure who really wrote them originally all these
really wrote them originally all these
really wrote them originally all these Gospels circulated anonymously there
Gospels circulated anonymously there
Gospels circulated anonymously there were no names attached to them until
were no names attached to them until
were no names attached to them until almost 200 and the Christian theologian
almost 200 and the Christian theologian
almost 200 and the Christian theologian who came up with the idea of having a
who came up with the idea of having a
who came up with the idea of having a new Testament was roundly condemned as a
new Testament was roundly condemned as a
new Testament was roundly condemned as a heretic
whoever did really write the four
whoever did really write the four
whoever did really write the four Gospels the description of Jesus death
Gospels the description of Jesus death
Gospels the description of Jesus death in all of them is brutal
every year at Easter Christians in the
every year at Easter Christians in the
every year at Easter Christians in the Philippines reenact the crucifixion of
Philippines reenact the crucifixion of
Philippines reenact the crucifixion of Jesus they actually volunteer to be
Jesus they actually volunteer to be
Jesus they actually volunteer to be crucified they do it because they
crucified they do it because they
crucified they do it because they believe it will help them to purge their
believe it will help them to purge their
believe it will help them to purge their sins
for the onlookers it's a bloody reminder
for the onlookers it's a bloody reminder
for the onlookers it's a bloody reminder of what happened to Jesus two thousand
of what happened to Jesus two thousand
of what happened to Jesus two thousand years ago crucifixion was the most cruel
years ago crucifixion was the most cruel
years ago crucifixion was the most cruel and atrocious punishment that the Romans
and atrocious punishment that the Romans
and atrocious punishment that the Romans could inflict and it was inflicted only
could inflict and it was inflicted only
could inflict and it was inflicted only for treason and only on slaves if you
for treason and only on slaves if you
for treason and only on slaves if you were a nobleman and you were a traitor
were a nobleman and you were a traitor
were a nobleman and you were a traitor then normally you were strangled
then normally you were strangled
then normally you were strangled something much simpler and much easier
something much simpler and much easier
something much simpler and much easier and much less painful
after condemnation the being the cross
after condemnation the being the cross
after condemnation the being the cross being was strapped to the shoulders of
being was strapped to the shoulders of
being was strapped to the shoulders of criminal and he paraded through the
criminal and he paraded through the
criminal and he paraded through the streets with his arms stretched out at
streets with his arms stretched out at
streets with his arms stretched out at the place of execution them nails were
the place of execution them nails were
the place of execution them nails were hammered into the hands and the feast in
hammered into the hands and the feast in
hammered into the hands and the feast in the Philippines they do use real nails
the Philippines they do use real nails
the Philippines they do use real nails they do experience the real pain that
they do experience the real pain that
they do experience the real pain that Jesus Valley but a man nailed to a cross
Jesus Valley but a man nailed to a cross
Jesus Valley but a man nailed to a cross does not die from his wounds he dies
does not die from his wounds he dies
does not die from his wounds he dies surprisingly from suffocation hanging by
surprisingly from suffocation hanging by
surprisingly from suffocation hanging by your arms the chest is compressed it's
your arms the chest is compressed it's
your arms the chest is compressed it's hard to breathe without supporting your
hard to breathe without supporting your
hard to breathe without supporting your weight with your legs over time the
weight with your legs over time the
weight with your legs over time the strain and the pain make that impossible
strain and the pain make that impossible
strain and the pain make that impossible and you're unable to breathe in the
and you're unable to breathe in the
and you're unable to breathe in the Philippines the volunteers are brought
Philippines the volunteers are brought
Philippines the volunteers are brought down from their crosses within an hour
down from their crosses within an hour
down from their crosses within an hour death from crucifixion takes much longer
death from crucifixion takes much longer
death from crucifixion takes much longer often several days the only way to
often several days the only way to
often several days the only way to hasten death on the cross was to break
hasten death on the cross was to break
hasten death on the cross was to break the legs making it immediately
the legs making it immediately
the legs making it immediately impossible to support your weight and
impossible to support your weight and
impossible to support your weight and therefore to breathe but the Gospels are
therefore to breathe but the Gospels are
therefore to breathe but the Gospels are all agreed that Jesus died after only
all agreed that Jesus died after only
all agreed that Jesus died after only three to six hours the crucifixion began
three to six hours the crucifixion began
three to six hours the crucifixion began at the third hour
at the third hour
at the third hour and it was the third hour and they
and it was the third hour and they
and it was the third hour and they crucified him
crucified him
crucified him some claim that the Gospel according to
some claim that the Gospel according to
some claim that the Gospel according to Luke has the shortest crucifixion it was
Luke has the shortest crucifixion it was
Luke has the shortest crucifixion it was about the sixth hour and when Jesus had
about the sixth hour and when Jesus had
about the sixth hour and when Jesus had cried with a loud voice he gave up the
cried with a loud voice he gave up the
cried with a loud voice he gave up the ghost Matthew and Mark have Jesus
ghost Matthew and Mark have Jesus
ghost Matthew and Mark have Jesus surviving a little longer and about the
surviving a little longer and about the
surviving a little longer and about the ninth hour Jesus cried out
ninth hour Jesus cried out
ninth hour Jesus cried out the disciples wanted to take Jesus body
the disciples wanted to take Jesus body
the disciples wanted to take Jesus body down from the cross immediately but the
down from the cross immediately but the
down from the cross immediately but the Roman governor Pontius Pilate wasn't
Roman governor Pontius Pilate wasn't
Roman governor Pontius Pilate wasn't convinced that he was dead and Pilate
convinced that he was dead and Pilate
convinced that he was dead and Pilate marvelled if he were already dead Pilate
marvelled if he were already dead Pilate
marvelled if he were already dead Pilate was reassured by the Centurion but this
was reassured by the Centurion but this
was reassured by the Centurion but this was the same Centurion who had earlier
was the same Centurion who had earlier
was the same Centurion who had earlier said truly this man was the son of God
said truly this man was the son of God
said truly this man was the son of God Jesus body was then laid in a tomb
Jesus body was then laid in a tomb
Jesus body was then laid in a tomb donated by a rich man joseph of
donated by a rich man joseph of
donated by a rich man joseph of arimathea this Joseph and a man called
arimathea this Joseph and a man called
arimathea this Joseph and a man called Nicodemus came to minister to the body
Nicodemus came to minister to the body
Nicodemus came to minister to the body they came to Jesus by night and brought
they came to Jesus by night and brought
they came to Jesus by night and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes about an
a mixture of myrrh and aloes about an
a mixture of myrrh and aloes about an hundred pounds weight
these accounts when viewed as an
these accounts when viewed as an
these accounts when viewed as an historical rather than a sacred record
historical rather than a sacred record
historical rather than a sacred record may raise questions why did Jesus die so
may raise questions why did Jesus die so
may raise questions why did Jesus die so quickly
quickly
quickly why did Joseph and Nicodemus take so
why did Joseph and Nicodemus take so
why did Joseph and Nicodemus take so many herbs into the tomb so it's perhaps
many herbs into the tomb so it's perhaps
many herbs into the tomb so it's perhaps not surprising that some people have
not surprising that some people have
not surprising that some people have even dared to ask whether Pilate was
even dared to ask whether Pilate was
even dared to ask whether Pilate was right to have his doubts whether Jesus
right to have his doubts whether Jesus
right to have his doubts whether Jesus really did die on the cross
that Jesus might not have died on the
that Jesus might not have died on the
that Jesus might not have died on the cross is an explosive idea particularly
cross is an explosive idea particularly
cross is an explosive idea particularly for Christians in our journey to
for Christians in our journey to
for Christians in our journey to understand the truth about Jesus life
understand the truth about Jesus life
understand the truth about Jesus life and death we need to look further at the
and death we need to look further at the
and death we need to look further at the biblical accounts of the resurrection it
biblical accounts of the resurrection it
biblical accounts of the resurrection it was here in Jerusalem that Jesus was
was here in Jerusalem that Jesus was
was here in Jerusalem that Jesus was crucified and according to the
crucified and according to the
crucified and according to the scriptures rose again from the dead
scriptures rose again from the dead
scriptures rose again from the dead but in Jerusalem one is forced to
but in Jerusalem one is forced to
but in Jerusalem one is forced to remember that we do not live on a
remember that we do not live on a
remember that we do not live on a Christian planet hundreds of millions of
Christian planet hundreds of millions of
Christian planet hundreds of millions of Jews and Muslims may accept that Jesus
Jews and Muslims may accept that Jesus
Jews and Muslims may accept that Jesus lived and died in first century
lived and died in first century
lived and died in first century Palestine but only Christians believed
Palestine but only Christians believed
Palestine but only Christians believed he rose from the dead this is the Church
he rose from the dead this is the Church
he rose from the dead this is the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem built
of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem built
of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem built upon what was supposed to be the tomb in
upon what was supposed to be the tomb in
upon what was supposed to be the tomb in which Jesus was laid after the
which Jesus was laid after the
which Jesus was laid after the crucifixion this according to devout
crucifixion this according to devout
crucifixion this according to devout Christians is the exact site of the
Christians is the exact site of the
Christians is the exact site of the resurrection and if anything can be
resurrection and if anything can be
resurrection and if anything can be described as the cornerstone of the
described as the cornerstone of the
described as the cornerstone of the Christian faith it is the resurrection
the resurrection of Jesus as far as all
the resurrection of Jesus as far as all
the resurrection of Jesus as far as all the Christian churches are concerned is
the Christian churches are concerned is
the Christian churches are concerned is absolutely fundamental to the faith
absolutely fundamental to the faith
absolutely fundamental to the faith there's no question in my mind that it's
there's no question in my mind that it's
there's no question in my mind that it's ever going to be changed the
ever going to be changed the
ever going to be changed the resurrection may be fundamental to the
resurrection may be fundamental to the
resurrection may be fundamental to the faith but in our examination of what
faith but in our examination of what
faith but in our examination of what really happened it's hard to find solid
really happened it's hard to find solid
really happened it's hard to find solid historical evidence
the four Gospels all tell different
the four Gospels all tell different
the four Gospels all tell different stories when we read the resurrection
stories when we read the resurrection
stories when we read the resurrection narratives it's like reading four
narratives it's like reading four
narratives it's like reading four different reports of the same football
different reports of the same football
different reports of the same football game in four rather different newspapers
game in four rather different newspapers
game in four rather different newspapers and the fact that actually there may be
and the fact that actually there may be
and the fact that actually there may be some disagreement about whether it was a
some disagreement about whether it was a
some disagreement about whether it was a foul or not doesn't mean that there
foul or not doesn't mean that there
foul or not doesn't mean that there wasn't a game and that somebody didn't
wasn't a game and that somebody didn't
wasn't a game and that somebody didn't win it and so on if one of them says
win it and so on if one of them says
win it and so on if one of them says there were two angels and another one
there were two angels and another one
there were two angels and another one says there was one angel if one of them
says there was one angel if one of them
says there was one angel if one of them says Mary Magdalene was there all by
says Mary Magdalene was there all by
says Mary Magdalene was there all by herself and somebody else says Mary
herself and somebody else says Mary
herself and somebody else says Mary Magdalene was there with one or two
Magdalene was there with one or two
Magdalene was there with one or two other women then these are the sorts of
other women then these are the sorts of
other women then these are the sorts of variations that you expect to get like
variations that you expect to get like
variations that you expect to get like the different newspaper reports the
the different newspaper reports the
the different newspaper reports the football match and then not something
football match and then not something
football match and then not something that should worry you to the point of
that should worry you to the point of
that should worry you to the point of saying therefore nothing happened that
saying therefore nothing happened that
saying therefore nothing happened that would be quite a false conclusion but in
would be quite a false conclusion but in
would be quite a false conclusion but in the earliest versions of the earliest
the earliest versions of the earliest
the earliest versions of the earliest gospel mark there are no resurrection
gospel mark there are no resurrection
gospel mark there are no resurrection appearances at all
appearances at all
appearances at all the gospel simply ends with the
the gospel simply ends with the
the gospel simply ends with the discovery of an empty tomb the last
discovery of an empty tomb the last
discovery of an empty tomb the last verses of Mark which do contain
verses of Mark which do contain
verses of Mark which do contain resurrection stories were added 200
resurrection stories were added 200
resurrection stories were added 200 years later none of the gospel stories
years later none of the gospel stories
years later none of the gospel stories is CNN in Jerusalem in the year 30 the
is CNN in Jerusalem in the year 30 the
is CNN in Jerusalem in the year 30 the Gospels are written in the form of
Gospels are written in the form of
Gospels are written in the form of historical biographies so many people
historical biographies so many people
historical biographies so many people have assumed that they are exactly that
have assumed that they are exactly that
have assumed that they are exactly that but there that's not actually what they
but there that's not actually what they
but there that's not actually what they are they're written to demonstrate to
are they're written to demonstrate to
are they're written to demonstrate to people the importance and the meaning of
people the importance and the meaning of
people the importance and the meaning of Jesus and his teaching that was what
Jesus and his teaching that was what
Jesus and his teaching that was what they're for and they do that very well
they're for and they do that very well
they're for and they do that very well but they're not primarily interested in
but they're not primarily interested in
but they're not primarily interested in what actually happened back there
what actually happened back there
what actually happened back there Matthew and Luke do have resurrection
Matthew and Luke do have resurrection
Matthew and Luke do have resurrection appearances but they don't agree about
appearances but they don't agree about
appearances but they don't agree about the details in Matthew Jesus meets the
the details in Matthew Jesus meets the
the details in Matthew Jesus meets the women near the tomb and then meets his
women near the tomb and then meets his
women near the tomb and then meets his disciples just one time and that is on a
disciples just one time and that is on a
disciples just one time and that is on a mountain in Galilee
mountain in Galilee
mountain in Galilee in Luke Jesus meets two unnamed
in Luke Jesus meets two unnamed
in Luke Jesus meets two unnamed disciples who do not recognize him and
disciples who do not recognize him and
disciples who do not recognize him and then with the eleven remaining disciples
then with the eleven remaining disciples
then with the eleven remaining disciples before leaving them in a village outside
before leaving them in a village outside
before leaving them in a village outside Jerusalem the last gospel John has many
Jerusalem the last gospel John has many
Jerusalem the last gospel John has many different resurrection stories for many
different resurrection stories for many
different resurrection stories for many modern scholars these variations suggest
modern scholars these variations suggest
modern scholars these variations suggest that the stories were not written to
that the stories were not written to
that the stories were not written to tell of a miraculous event but with an
tell of a miraculous event but with an
tell of a miraculous event but with an entirely different and political motive
entirely different and political motive
entirely different and political motive for it was the supposed witnesses of the
for it was the supposed witnesses of the
for it was the supposed witnesses of the Resurrection who became the leaders of
Resurrection who became the leaders of
Resurrection who became the leaders of the early church even to this day the
the early church even to this day the
the early church even to this day the Pope claims his authority in a direct
Pope claims his authority in a direct
Pope claims his authority in a direct unbroken line of ordination from Peter
unbroken line of ordination from Peter
unbroken line of ordination from Peter the first disciple said to have seen the
the first disciple said to have seen the
the first disciple said to have seen the risen Christ
some scholars go so far as to suggest
some scholars go so far as to suggest
some scholars go so far as to suggest that the story of the resurrection was
that the story of the resurrection was
that the story of the resurrection was also created as an extraordinary
also created as an extraordinary
also created as an extraordinary psychological tool to bring in new
psychological tool to bring in new
psychological tool to bring in new converts
converts
converts it hadn't been for the resurrection of
it hadn't been for the resurrection of
it hadn't been for the resurrection of Jesus and his rising from the dead
Jesus and his rising from the dead
Jesus and his rising from the dead victorious from the dead we wouldn't be
victorious from the dead we wouldn't be
victorious from the dead we wouldn't be celebrating Christmas it's a bit like
celebrating Christmas it's a bit like
celebrating Christmas it's a bit like when you go into the army the first
when you go into the army the first
when you go into the army the first thing we want is to take over your body
thing we want is to take over your body
thing we want is to take over your body so symbolically is still going to shave
so symbolically is still going to shave
so symbolically is still going to shave all your hair as long as you give in on
all your hair as long as you give in on
all your hair as long as you give in on this we got you we got your body we just
this we got you we got your body we just
this we got you we got your body we just hope you are in one sense sometimes the
hope you are in one sense sometimes the
hope you are in one sense sometimes the churches some churches at least do the
churches some churches at least do the
churches some churches at least do the same we're going to tell you something
same we're going to tell you something
same we're going to tell you something unbelievable that you gotta believe when
unbelievable that you gotta believe when
unbelievable that you gotta believe when they you just relax
they you just relax
they you just relax if you believe it then you will believe
if you believe it then you will believe
if you believe it then you will believe that they alone control heaven that
that they alone control heaven that
that they alone control heaven that without them you cannot get into heaven
without them you cannot get into heaven
without them you cannot get into heaven and then they've got you you've left
and then they've got you you've left
and then they've got you you've left your brains in the parking lot that's a
your brains in the parking lot that's a
your brains in the parking lot that's a statement that may be offensive to many
statement that may be offensive to many
statement that may be offensive to many Christians it would certainly be
Christians it would certainly be
Christians it would certainly be offensive to the worshippers at the
offensive to the worshippers at the
offensive to the worshippers at the Toronto Airport Church who take their
Toronto Airport Church who take their
Toronto Airport Church who take their belief in the literal truth of the
belief in the literal truth of the
belief in the literal truth of the resurrection of Jesus very seriously
resurrection of Jesus very seriously
resurrection of Jesus very seriously indeed
sweetie
for these Christians the risen Christ is
for these Christians the risen Christ is
for these Christians the risen Christ is an active part of the church and they
an active part of the church and they
an active part of the church and they believe that in 1994 Jesus blessed their
believe that in 1994 Jesus blessed their
believe that in 1994 Jesus blessed their church with a miraculous healing mission
church with a miraculous healing mission
church with a miraculous healing mission bond brothers spark a day in the spirit
bond brothers spark a day in the spirit
bond brothers spark a day in the spirit four minutes since then thousands of
four minutes since then thousands of
four minutes since then thousands of churches around the world have claimed
churches around the world have claimed
churches around the world have claimed to be touched by what became known as
to be touched by what became known as
to be touched by what became known as the Toronto blessing glorious coming
the Toronto blessing glorious coming
the Toronto blessing glorious coming into the room and in Toronto in a
into the room and in Toronto in a
into the room and in Toronto in a splendid new church built by
splendid new church built by
splendid new church built by contributions from the faithful the
contributions from the faithful the
contributions from the faithful the congregation continued to celebrate
congregation continued to celebrate
congregation continued to celebrate their belief in the resurrected Christ
their belief in the resurrected Christ
their belief in the resurrected Christ are they less here on an almost weekly
are they less here on an almost weekly
are they less here on an almost weekly basis they claim that their faith has
basis they claim that their faith has
basis they claim that their faith has the power to miraculously heal so God's
the power to miraculously heal so God's
the power to miraculously heal so God's gonna heal you right now there it goes
gonna heal you right now there it goes
gonna heal you right now there it goes and the neck is healed in Jesus name
and the neck is healed in Jesus name
and the neck is healed in Jesus name don't you like it I like it
don't you like it I like it
don't you like it I like it bless you brother today it seems to me
bless you brother today it seems to me
bless you brother today it seems to me that there are many people who will
that there are many people who will
that there are many people who will strongly defend the literal truth of the
strongly defend the literal truth of the
strongly defend the literal truth of the Resurrection many others who are
Resurrection many others who are
Resurrection many others who are Christians are not Christians believe
Christians are not Christians believe
Christians are not Christians believe that perhaps you know those who died may
that perhaps you know those who died may
that perhaps you know those who died may be alive in some way that Jesus who died
be alive in some way that Jesus who died
be alive in some way that Jesus who died might be in some sense alive whatever
might be in some sense alive whatever
might be in some sense alive whatever one means by that and there are many
one means by that and there are many
one means by that and there are many others who take it as a as an image of
others who take it as a as an image of
others who take it as a as an image of hope because after all the talking about
hope because after all the talking about
hope because after all the talking about the resurrection of Jesus has a great
the resurrection of Jesus has a great
the resurrection of Jesus has a great deal to do with what we think about life
deal to do with what we think about life
deal to do with what we think about life after death or for that matter our own
after death or for that matter our own
after death or for that matter our own prospects
prospects
prospects the problem for the church in the 21st
the problem for the church in the 21st
the problem for the church in the 21st century in a technological and secular
century in a technological and secular
century in a technological and secular age is that some people find it hard to
age is that some people find it hard to
age is that some people find it hard to believe in the literal truth of the
believe in the literal truth of the
believe in the literal truth of the miracles let alone the miracle of the
miracles let alone the miracle of the
miracles let alone the miracle of the resurrection since the 18th century
resurrection since the 18th century
resurrection since the 18th century we've lived in a climate where people
we've lived in a climate where people
we've lived in a climate where people have distinguished between faith and
have distinguished between faith and
have distinguished between faith and belief so the whole effect of science on
belief so the whole effect of science on
belief so the whole effect of science on religion really has been to throw
religion really has been to throw
religion really has been to throw religion back to prove what we can
religion back to prove what we can
religion back to prove what we can believe in but week in and week out
believe in but week in and week out
believe in but week in and week out congregations gather in Christian
congregations gather in Christian
congregations gather in Christian churches and recite together an ancient
churches and recite together an ancient
churches and recite together an ancient Creed from the latin word credo meaning
Creed from the latin word credo meaning
Creed from the latin word credo meaning i believe we believe in one God the
i believe we believe in one God the
i believe we believe in one God the Father the Almighty we believe in one
Father the Almighty we believe in one
Father the Almighty we believe in one God the Father the Almighty for our sake
God the Father the Almighty for our sake
God the Father the Almighty for our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate at
he was crucified under Pontius Pilate at
he was crucified under Pontius Pilate at the climax of the Creed all Christians
the climax of the Creed all Christians
the climax of the Creed all Christians affirm their belief in the resurrection
affirm their belief in the resurrection
affirm their belief in the resurrection on the third day he rose again in
on the third day he rose again in
on the third day he rose again in accordance for the Scriptures he
accordance for the Scriptures he
accordance for the Scriptures he ascended into heaven and is seated at
ascended into heaven and is seated at
ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father
the right hand of the Father
the right hand of the Father people come again in glory to judge the
people come again in glory to judge the
people come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and but whatever is
living and the dead and but whatever is
living and the dead and but whatever is said in church many Christian
said in church many Christian
said in church many Christian theologians no longer consider the
theologians no longer consider the
theologians no longer consider the resurrection to be an historical fact
resurrection to be an historical fact
resurrection to be an historical fact and this is not just being a problem of
and this is not just being a problem of
and this is not just being a problem of the 21st century a thousand years ago a
the 21st century a thousand years ago a
the 21st century a thousand years ago a group of devout Christians in southern
group of devout Christians in southern
group of devout Christians in southern France also held unorthodox heretical
France also held unorthodox heretical
France also held unorthodox heretical views
in the eleventh and twelfth centuries
in the eleventh and twelfth centuries
in the eleventh and twelfth centuries the Cathars a deeply religious group
the Cathars a deeply religious group
the Cathars a deeply religious group believed that all material things were
believed that all material things were
believed that all material things were the work of the devil they saw Jesus as
the work of the devil they saw Jesus as
the work of the devil they saw Jesus as an angel who certainly could not have
an angel who certainly could not have
an angel who certainly could not have been physically crucified and certainly
been physically crucified and certainly
been physically crucified and certainly would not have been resurrected as a
would not have been resurrected as a
would not have been resurrected as a physical body it was actually in
physical body it was actually in
physical body it was actually in response to the Cathar heresy that the
response to the Cathar heresy that the
response to the Cathar heresy that the church created the Inquisition in 1244
church created the Inquisition in 1244
church created the Inquisition in 1244 the last 200 of the Cathars were rounded
the last 200 of the Cathars were rounded
the last 200 of the Cathars were rounded up and burned at the stake as heretics
the church has always reacted strongly
the church has always reacted strongly
the church has always reacted strongly against anyone who doubted the truth of
against anyone who doubted the truth of
against anyone who doubted the truth of the Resurrection because that doubt
the Resurrection because that doubt
the Resurrection because that doubt insinuates that the very literal and
insinuates that the very literal and
insinuates that the very literal and physical gospel descriptions of the
physical gospel descriptions of the
physical gospel descriptions of the death and resurrection of Jesus are
death and resurrection of Jesus are
death and resurrection of Jesus are fabrications
but there is one story also set in
but there is one story also set in
but there is one story also set in France at about the same time as the
France at about the same time as the
France at about the same time as the Cathars which suggests that another
Cathars which suggests that another
Cathars which suggests that another Christian group made a discovery which
Christian group made a discovery which
Christian group made a discovery which really might reveal that the
really might reveal that the
really might reveal that the resurrection story was not true
in the 13th century this whole area was
in the 13th century this whole area was
in the 13th century this whole area was a stronghold of the Knights Templar a
a stronghold of the Knights Templar a
a stronghold of the Knights Templar a strict religious and military order of
strict religious and military order of
strict religious and military order of warrior monks local historian Thierry
warrior monks local historian Thierry
warrior monks local historian Thierry Lacan has spent the last 12 years
Lacan has spent the last 12 years
Lacan has spent the last 12 years uncovering the history of the Knights
uncovering the history of the Knights
uncovering the history of the Knights Templar in this region but it um Pierre
Templar in this region but it um Pierre
Templar in this region but it um Pierre boy he said the Templars came to this
boy he said the Templars came to this
boy he said the Templars came to this region tomorrow Campania there are
region tomorrow Campania there are
region tomorrow Campania there are traces of them all over the countryside
traces of them all over the countryside
traces of them all over the countryside serenaded classic down there at the
serenaded classic down there at the
serenaded classic down there at the bottom near shattered LeBlanc strong we
bottom near shattered LeBlanc strong we
bottom near shattered LeBlanc strong we know there are ruins of an old temple a
know there are ruins of an old temple a
know there are ruins of an old temple a command post on pl
the Knights Templar were committed to
the Knights Templar were committed to
the Knights Templar were committed to poverty chastity and the protection of
poverty chastity and the protection of
poverty chastity and the protection of pilgrims enroute to the Holy Land
pilgrims enroute to the Holy Land
pilgrims enroute to the Holy Land but their main purpose was to keep
but their main purpose was to keep
but their main purpose was to keep Jerusalem and the holy sites of
Jerusalem and the holy sites of
Jerusalem and the holy sites of Christianity free from the forces of
Christianity free from the forces of
Christianity free from the forces of Islam
during the years they were in the Holy
during the years they were in the Holy
during the years they were in the Holy Land the Templars built their own
Land the Templars built their own
Land the Templars built their own castles but they buried their dead in
castles but they buried their dead in
castles but they buried their dead in graveyards they excavated near to the
graveyards they excavated near to the
graveyards they excavated near to the original temple of Solomon and certainly
original temple of Solomon and certainly
original temple of Solomon and certainly during this time they were thought to
during this time they were thought to
during this time they were thought to have discovered great treasures
eventually the Templars were forced to
eventually the Templars were forced to
eventually the Templars were forced to leave the Holy Land in 1186 they
leave the Holy Land in 1186 they
leave the Holy Land in 1186 they returned to France
suddenly the Templars remained powerful
suddenly the Templars remained powerful
suddenly the Templars remained powerful rich and incredibly secretive so it's
rich and incredibly secretive so it's
rich and incredibly secretive so it's not surprising that people speculated
not surprising that people speculated
not surprising that people speculated about them and the grew a legend that
about them and the grew a legend that
about them and the grew a legend that the Knights Templar had discovered Jesus
the Knights Templar had discovered Jesus
the Knights Templar had discovered Jesus bones in Jerusalem that they had brought
bones in Jerusalem that they had brought
bones in Jerusalem that they had brought them back to France and they had buried
them back to France and they had buried
them back to France and they had buried them somewhere near here
the legend that a thousand years ago the
the legend that a thousand years ago the
the legend that a thousand years ago the Templars might have found an asura box
Templars might have found an asura box
Templars might have found an asura box containing Jesus bones has led modern
containing Jesus bones has led modern
containing Jesus bones has led modern scholars to a small church in the
scholars to a small church in the
scholars to a small church in the village of rennes-le-chateau writer
village of rennes-le-chateau writer
village of rennes-le-chateau writer Richard Andrews is convinced that there
Richard Andrews is convinced that there
Richard Andrews is convinced that there are clues here that might reveal what
are clues here that might reveal what
are clues here that might reveal what exactly the Templars did find during
exactly the Templars did find during
exactly the Templars did find during their excavations in Jerusalem one can
their excavations in Jerusalem one can
their excavations in Jerusalem one can ask the question did the Templars find
ask the question did the Templars find
ask the question did the Templars find relics a Nasri full of bones that they
relics a Nasri full of bones that they
relics a Nasri full of bones that they thought were possibly the bones of Jesus
thought were possibly the bones of Jesus
thought were possibly the bones of Jesus now if they had found these it would
now if they had found these it would
now if they had found these it would have been a shock to the system because
have been a shock to the system because
have been a shock to the system because the Templars were good Christians this
the Templars were good Christians this
the Templars were good Christians this would challenge the whole doctrine of
would challenge the whole doctrine of
would challenge the whole doctrine of resurrection because here are mortal
resurrection because here are mortal
resurrection because here are mortal remains so he asked a second question
remains so he asked a second question
remains so he asked a second question why should the Templars risk being
why should the Templars risk being
why should the Templars risk being accused of heresy and bringing the bones
accused of heresy and bringing the bones
accused of heresy and bringing the bones that they thought were Jesus's back to
that they thought were Jesus's back to
that they thought were Jesus's back to this area the answer is simple if they
this area the answer is simple if they
this area the answer is simple if they had found something which they believed
had found something which they believed
had found something which they believed with the bones of Christ they needed a
with the bones of Christ they needed a
with the bones of Christ they needed a safe location you could hide a church in
safe location you could hide a church in
safe location you could hide a church in these mountains let alone a small
these mountains let alone a small
these mountains let alone a small nursery you can get lost in these
nursery you can get lost in these
nursery you can get lost in these mountains today imagine what it was like
mountains today imagine what it was like
mountains today imagine what it was like a thousand years ago
in the late 19th century the local
in the late 19th century the local
in the late 19th century the local priest here called Behringer Sonier
priest here called Behringer Sonier
priest here called Behringer Sonier claimed to have found ancient documents
claimed to have found ancient documents
claimed to have found ancient documents and whatever they were he certainly
and whatever they were he certainly
and whatever they were he certainly became very rich afterwards Richard
became very rich afterwards Richard
became very rich afterwards Richard Andrews has found clues among these
Andrews has found clues among these
Andrews has found clues among these parchments using elaborate geometry and
parchments using elaborate geometry and
parchments using elaborate geometry and transferring symbols from ancient
transferring symbols from ancient
transferring symbols from ancient paintings onto equally ancient maps all
paintings onto equally ancient maps all
paintings onto equally ancient maps all in the hope of finding a Templar
in the hope of finding a Templar
in the hope of finding a Templar treasure trove the clues that we found
treasure trove the clues that we found
treasure trove the clues that we found point to a map in the form of a hexagram
point to a map in the form of a hexagram
point to a map in the form of a hexagram which is also known as the city of
which is also known as the city of
which is also known as the city of Solomon but it is the Star of David
Solomon but it is the Star of David
Solomon but it is the Star of David this map points to a specific site now
this map points to a specific site now
this map points to a specific site now we know that the priest Vera jessenia
we know that the priest Vera jessenia
we know that the priest Vera jessenia became fabulously wealthy but we are
became fabulously wealthy but we are
became fabulously wealthy but we are sure that he didn't actually find what
sure that he didn't actually find what
sure that he didn't actually find what he was looking for we can deduce perhaps
he was looking for we can deduce perhaps
he was looking for we can deduce perhaps that Sarnia received money from patrons
that Sarnia received money from patrons
that Sarnia received money from patrons to look for a location in the area that
to look for a location in the area that
to look for a location in the area that might reveal perhaps the bones of Christ
might reveal perhaps the bones of Christ
might reveal perhaps the bones of Christ whatever it is we do know one thing for
whatever it is we do know one thing for
whatever it is we do know one thing for sure
sure
sure the secret that Sony a was giving clues
the secret that Sony a was giving clues
the secret that Sony a was giving clues to was heretical Sony a died in 1917 and
to was heretical Sony a died in 1917 and
to was heretical Sony a died in 1917 and took his secret with him to the grave
took his secret with him to the grave
took his secret with him to the grave that hasn't stopped enthusiasts like
that hasn't stopped enthusiasts like
that hasn't stopped enthusiasts like Thierry Lacan from continuing to search
Thierry Lacan from continuing to search
Thierry Lacan from continuing to search on the basis of Richards work and trying
on the basis of Richards work and trying
on the basis of Richards work and trying to solve the mystery
to solve the mystery
to solve the mystery using local maps on which the geometric
using local maps on which the geometric
using local maps on which the geometric lines from Sonia's original parchments
lines from Sonia's original parchments
lines from Sonia's original parchments have been transposed Thierry has found
have been transposed Thierry has found
have been transposed Thierry has found further evidence of the Templars
further evidence of the Templars
further evidence of the Templars presence here and he believes he's
presence here and he believes he's
presence here and he believes he's closing in on the location where the
closing in on the location where the
closing in on the location where the Templars could have buried the bones of
Templars could have buried the bones of
Templars could have buried the bones of Jesus
lambs are you to submit there you have
lambs are you to submit there you have
lambs are you to submit there you have the summit of Mount Carter and there are
the summit of Mount Carter and there are
the summit of Mount Carter and there are two Cedars there about ten meters
two Cedars there about ten meters
two Cedars there about ten meters distance between them each one that you
distance between them each one that you
distance between them each one that you know they form an alignment traversing
know they form an alignment traversing
know they form an alignment traversing the valley of raillery
the valley of raillery
the valley of raillery arriving at the plateau Dipple year
arriving at the plateau Dipple year
arriving at the plateau Dipple year where there's a rock with a cross one
where there's a rock with a cross one
where there's a rock with a cross one peeler not anymore
peeler not anymore
peeler not anymore you know said I lined up the compass I
you know said I lined up the compass I
you know said I lined up the compass I took a long time and I made a lot of
took a long time and I made a lot of
took a long time and I made a lot of mistakes is she coming out of your good
mistakes is she coming out of your good
mistakes is she coming out of your good initiative but I was convinced I'd find
initiative but I was convinced I'd find
initiative but I was convinced I'd find something a cedar or another cross and
something a cedar or another cross and
something a cedar or another cross and then I found a cross
well that's it from me there's the
well that's it from me there's the
well that's it from me there's the famous cross as you see pass the along
famous cross as you see pass the along
famous cross as you see pass the along top I spent a long time very near it
top I spent a long time very near it
top I spent a long time very near it without finding the place Jayantilal
without finding the place Jayantilal
without finding the place Jayantilal it was a little setback from the plateau
it was a little setback from the plateau
it was a little setback from the plateau yeah Jamia prepare do sample it took me
yeah Jamia prepare do sample it took me
yeah Jamia prepare do sample it took me 12 years to find this cross even if the
12 years to find this cross even if the
12 years to find this cross even if the Knights Templar did bring Jesus bones in
Knights Templar did bring Jesus bones in
Knights Templar did bring Jesus bones in an asura box back here from the Holy
an asura box back here from the Holy
an asura box back here from the Holy Land it seems unlikely the Thierry
Land it seems unlikely the Thierry
Land it seems unlikely the Thierry Lacombe or Richard Andrews would ever
Lacombe or Richard Andrews would ever
Lacombe or Richard Andrews would ever find them in these mountains
find them in these mountains
find them in these mountains however there have been those who've
however there have been those who've
however there have been those who've gone back to the original gospel stories
gone back to the original gospel stories
gone back to the original gospel stories of Jesus death and resurrection and come
of Jesus death and resurrection and come
of Jesus death and resurrection and come up with more credible but no less
up with more credible but no less
up with more credible but no less startling conclusions about what exactly
startling conclusions about what exactly
startling conclusions about what exactly happened 2,000 years ago he read the
happened 2,000 years ago he read the
happened 2,000 years ago he read the story of the empty tomb and on Friday
story of the empty tomb and on Friday
story of the empty tomb and on Friday someone is killed and on Sunday they're
someone is killed and on Sunday they're
someone is killed and on Sunday they're gone from the tomb and you asked the
gone from the tomb and you asked the
gone from the tomb and you asked the question what might have happened either
question what might have happened either
question what might have happened either God raised him from the dead which is
God raised him from the dead which is
God raised him from the dead which is the traditional Christian affirmation or
the traditional Christian affirmation or
the traditional Christian affirmation or the body was carried away by someone
the body was carried away by someone
the body was carried away by someone body stolen but there is another
body stolen but there is another
body stolen but there is another possibility the Gospels describe how
possibility the Gospels describe how
possibility the Gospels describe how after his resurrection Jesus ate drank
after his resurrection Jesus ate drank
after his resurrection Jesus ate drank and Thomas could touch his wounds
and Thomas could touch his wounds
and Thomas could touch his wounds it's therefore perhaps not surprising
it's therefore perhaps not surprising
it's therefore perhaps not surprising that some people who've looked for
that some people who've looked for
that some people who've looked for natural explanations of miracles have
natural explanations of miracles have
natural explanations of miracles have suggested that Jesus was alive
suggested that Jesus was alive
suggested that Jesus was alive because he didn't die on the cross there
because he didn't die on the cross there
because he didn't die on the cross there are many versions of that story one came
are many versions of that story one came
are many versions of that story one came up in a book years ago called the
up in a book years ago called the
up in a book years ago called the Passover plot which suggested that he
Passover plot which suggested that he
Passover plot which suggested that he had been sedated on the cross that he
had been sedated on the cross that he
had been sedated on the cross that he was removed quite early and therefore
was removed quite early and therefore
was removed quite early and therefore could well have survived that's
could well have survived that's
could well have survived that's certainly a possibility the disciples
certainly a possibility the disciples
certainly a possibility the disciples did manage to give Jesus some kind of
did manage to give Jesus some kind of
did manage to give Jesus some kind of substance on a sponge they filled a
substance on a sponge they filled a
substance on a sponge they filled a sponge with vinegar and put it upon
sponge with vinegar and put it upon
sponge with vinegar and put it upon hyssop and put it to his mouth and Jesus
hyssop and put it to his mouth and Jesus
hyssop and put it to his mouth and Jesus immediately died after taking this
immediately died after taking this
immediately died after taking this substance when Jesus had received the
substance when Jesus had received the
substance when Jesus had received the vinegar he said it is finished but oddly
vinegar he said it is finished but oddly
vinegar he said it is finished but oddly enough it isn't necessary to suggest
enough it isn't necessary to suggest
enough it isn't necessary to suggest that Jesus was sedated or drugged by
that Jesus was sedated or drugged by
that Jesus was sedated or drugged by whatever was on the sponge in order to
whatever was on the sponge in order to
whatever was on the sponge in order to believe that he could have survived the
believe that he could have survived the
believe that he could have survived the are stories of people who did survive
are stories of people who did survive
are stories of people who did survive crucifixion the Jewish historian
crucifixion the Jewish historian
crucifixion the Jewish historian Josephus wrote of one of his own friends
Josephus wrote of one of his own friends
Josephus wrote of one of his own friends surviving crucifixion in Palestine in
surviving crucifixion in Palestine in
surviving crucifixion in Palestine in the first century he's travelling out to
the first century he's travelling out to
the first century he's travelling out to a village named Toccoa to scout land for
a village named Toccoa to scout land for
a village named Toccoa to scout land for a Roman camp and he notices that three
a Roman camp and he notices that three
a Roman camp and he notices that three of his friends are hanging on crosses so
of his friends are hanging on crosses so
of his friends are hanging on crosses so he requests that they be allowed to they
he requests that they be allowed to they
he requests that they be allowed to they be brought down and Titus the Roman
be brought down and Titus the Roman
be brought down and Titus the Roman general gives him permission the three
general gives him permission the three
general gives him permission the three are brought down immediately and given
are brought down immediately and given
are brought down immediately and given medical care and two of them died but
medical care and two of them died but
medical care and two of them died but the third survived
the third survived
the third survived so is it possible that Jesus survived
so is it possible that Jesus survived
so is it possible that Jesus survived certainly his crucifixion was speedily
certainly his crucifixion was speedily
certainly his crucifixion was speedily executed perhaps too speedily when you
executed perhaps too speedily when you
executed perhaps too speedily when you look at the story of Jesus and how I was
look at the story of Jesus and how I was
look at the story of Jesus and how I was executed by the Romans he's on the cross
executed by the Romans he's on the cross
executed by the Romans he's on the cross for six hours the assumption is that
for six hours the assumption is that
for six hours the assumption is that he's dead the Roman soldiers checked the
he's dead the Roman soldiers checked the
he's dead the Roman soldiers checked the body there were two others crucified
body there were two others crucified
body there were two others crucified according to the Gospel accounts and
according to the Gospel accounts and
according to the Gospel accounts and they broke the legs of those to hasten
they broke the legs of those to hasten
they broke the legs of those to hasten their death because the Sabbath day was
their death because the Sabbath day was
their death because the Sabbath day was coming when they came to Jesus they said
coming when they came to Jesus they said
coming when they came to Jesus they said he he's already dead
he he's already dead
he he's already dead presumably his body's motionless he's
presumably his body's motionless he's
presumably his body's motionless he's quit breathing they then prepare the
quit breathing they then prepare the
quit breathing they then prepare the body and put him in a tomb and
body and put him in a tomb and
body and put him in a tomb and presumably it's sealed up and he's dead
presumably it's sealed up and he's dead
presumably it's sealed up and he's dead for all practical purposes the question
for all practical purposes the question
for all practical purposes the question though is is he clinically dead the
though is is he clinically dead the
though is is he clinically dead the question of clinical death is certainly
question of clinical death is certainly
question of clinical death is certainly raised by the fact that the herbs which
raised by the fact that the herbs which
raised by the fact that the herbs which joseph of arimathea took into the tomb
joseph of arimathea took into the tomb
joseph of arimathea took into the tomb with the body of Jesus were aloes these
with the body of Jesus were aloes these
with the body of Jesus were aloes these are healing not embalming hubs we do
are healing not embalming hubs we do
are healing not embalming hubs we do have stories both from the modern world
have stories both from the modern world
have stories both from the modern world and from the ancient world or people
and from the ancient world or people
and from the ancient world or people appear to be dead and for all practical
appear to be dead and for all practical
appear to be dead and for all practical purposes they are dead that is they're
purposes they are dead that is they're
purposes they are dead that is they're not responding to the outside world but
not responding to the outside world but
not responding to the outside world but then they do in fact revive or come back
then they do in fact revive or come back
then they do in fact revive or come back we call it resuscitation but if you want
we call it resuscitation but if you want
we call it resuscitation but if you want to press the language that would be
to press the language that would be
to press the language that would be resurrection
the idea that Jesus might have survived
the idea that Jesus might have survived
the idea that Jesus might have survived the crucifixion rather than risen from
the crucifixion rather than risen from
the crucifixion rather than risen from the dead
the dead
the dead seems provocative but all the Gospels
seems provocative but all the Gospels
seems provocative but all the Gospels are quite clear that the disciples saw
are quite clear that the disciples saw
are quite clear that the disciples saw Jesus as if he were alive if Jesus did
Jesus as if he were alive if Jesus did
Jesus as if he were alive if Jesus did survive it does not necessarily mean
survive it does not necessarily mean
survive it does not necessarily mean that the resurrection story was a hoax
that the resurrection story was a hoax
that the resurrection story was a hoax or a deliberate falsehood at the end of
or a deliberate falsehood at the end of
or a deliberate falsehood at the end of the 19th century the English writer
the 19th century the English writer
the 19th century the English writer Samuel Butler in his book on the
Samuel Butler in his book on the
Samuel Butler in his book on the resurrection came up with the theory
resurrection came up with the theory
resurrection came up with the theory that if Jesus had collapsed into a shock
that if Jesus had collapsed into a shock
that if Jesus had collapsed into a shock induced coma on the cross and then
induced coma on the cross and then
induced coma on the cross and then recovered in the tomb he and his
recovered in the tomb he and his
recovered in the tomb he and his disciples would actually have thought
disciples would actually have thought
disciples would actually have thought his recovery was a miraculous
his recovery was a miraculous
his recovery was a miraculous resurrection but still has great
resurrection but still has great
resurrection but still has great credibility if you see it in the light
credibility if you see it in the light
credibility if you see it in the light for instance of more contemporary
for instance of more contemporary
for instance of more contemporary developments look at the near-death
developments look at the near-death
developments look at the near-death experience in the United States
experience in the United States
experience in the United States something like 13 million people in the
something like 13 million people in the
something like 13 million people in the United States say they've had near-death
United States say they've had near-death
United States say they've had near-death experiences they've seen this white
experiences they've seen this white
experiences they've seen this white light they believe it should be some
light they believe it should be some
light they believe it should be some form of miracle so the idea that in the
form of miracle so the idea that in the
form of miracle so the idea that in the first century when they have none of
first century when they have none of
first century when they have none of this scientific insight and they had
this scientific insight and they had
this scientific insight and they had none of these hospitals or whatever to
none of these hospitals or whatever to
none of these hospitals or whatever to save them that people thought it
save them that people thought it
save them that people thought it actually makes a lot of sense doesn't
actually makes a lot of sense doesn't
actually makes a lot of sense doesn't make them fraudsters or shysters it
make them fraudsters or shysters it
make them fraudsters or shysters it actually makes them genuine people who
actually makes them genuine people who
actually makes them genuine people who thought they'd witnessed a miracle
thought they'd witnessed a miracle
thought they'd witnessed a miracle whatever the circumstances if Jesus was
whatever the circumstances if Jesus was
whatever the circumstances if Jesus was alive then he and his disciples faced a
alive then he and his disciples faced a
alive then he and his disciples faced a serious problem if Jesus was placed in
serious problem if Jesus was placed in
serious problem if Jesus was placed in the tomb and somehow was revived he
the tomb and somehow was revived he
the tomb and somehow was revived he himself would certainly think that was
himself would certainly think that was
himself would certainly think that was an act of the grace of God I came right
an act of the grace of God I came right
an act of the grace of God I came right to the bars of death and was brought
to the bars of death and was brought
to the bars of death and was brought back but now there's a practical problem
back but now there's a practical problem
back but now there's a practical problem it's a political problem actually
it's a political problem actually
it's a political problem actually Romans basically do one thing two
Romans basically do one thing two
Romans basically do one thing two messiahs they crucify them
if Jesus did indeed survive crucifixion
if Jesus did indeed survive crucifixion
if Jesus did indeed survive crucifixion either through resurrection as the Bible
either through resurrection as the Bible
either through resurrection as the Bible tells us or more controversially through
tells us or more controversially through
tells us or more controversially through resuscitation then he is once more a
resuscitation then he is once more a
resuscitation then he is once more a condemned man the Bible is said to solve
condemned man the Bible is said to solve
condemned man the Bible is said to solve this problem with a miracle called the
this problem with a miracle called the
this problem with a miracle called the Ascension Jesus is taken bodily into
Ascension Jesus is taken bodily into
Ascension Jesus is taken bodily into heaven
but the interesting fact is that the
but the interesting fact is that the
but the interesting fact is that the Ascension does not actually appear in
Ascension does not actually appear in
Ascension does not actually appear in the original form of the Gospels the
the original form of the Gospels the
the original form of the Gospels the Ascension references in mark are among
Ascension references in mark are among
Ascension references in mark are among the verses which as we've seen were
the verses which as we've seen were
the verses which as we've seen were added two hundred years later there is
added two hundred years later there is
added two hundred years later there is one line in Luke which reads and was
one line in Luke which reads and was
one line in Luke which reads and was carried up into heaven but again this
carried up into heaven but again this
carried up into heaven but again this does not appear in all Bibles it was in
does not appear in all Bibles it was in
does not appear in all Bibles it was in fact inserted simply because the
fact inserted simply because the
fact inserted simply because the Ascension is referred to in a later book
Ascension is referred to in a later book
Ascension is referred to in a later book of the Bible the Acts of the Apostles
of the Bible the Acts of the Apostles
of the Bible the Acts of the Apostles and has always been assumed that Luke
and has always been assumed that Luke
and has always been assumed that Luke was the author of the Acts
was the author of the Acts
was the author of the Acts there's no Ascension in Matthew and
there's no Ascension in Matthew and
there's no Ascension in Matthew and John's Gospel ends with the enigmatic
John's Gospel ends with the enigmatic
John's Gospel ends with the enigmatic words and there are also many other
words and there are also many other
words and there are also many other things which Jesus did the which if they
things which Jesus did the which if they
things which Jesus did the which if they should be written every one I suppose
should be written every one I suppose
should be written every one I suppose that even the world itself could not
that even the world itself could not
that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written
contain the books that would be written
contain the books that would be written so what was it that Jesus did one of the
so what was it that Jesus did one of the
so what was it that Jesus did one of the stories that emerges from this question
stories that emerges from this question
stories that emerges from this question depends upon the idea that Jesus
depends upon the idea that Jesus
depends upon the idea that Jesus relationship with Mary Magdalene was a
relationship with Mary Magdalene was a
relationship with Mary Magdalene was a very special one
if you read John's Gospel the first
if you read John's Gospel the first
if you read John's Gospel the first person who saw the risen Christ ie the
person who saw the risen Christ ie the
person who saw the risen Christ ie the first Christian was Mary Magdalene so I
first Christian was Mary Magdalene so I
first Christian was Mary Magdalene so I think when the church tries to sideline
think when the church tries to sideline
think when the church tries to sideline the idea that Jesus had relationships
the idea that Jesus had relationships
the idea that Jesus had relationships with women that he had close
with women that he had close
with women that he had close relationships women it's laughable
relationships women it's laughable
relationships women it's laughable really I mean it's part of this problem
really I mean it's part of this problem
really I mean it's part of this problem that they always say that that the thing
that they always say that that the thing
that they always say that that the thing that non-believers find hardest about
that non-believers find hardest about
that non-believers find hardest about Jesus was his divinity and the thing
Jesus was his divinity and the thing
Jesus was his divinity and the thing that Christians always find hardest
that Christians always find hardest
that Christians always find hardest about Jesus was his humanity I mean he
about Jesus was his humanity I mean he
about Jesus was his humanity I mean he was it he was a man I'm perfectly happy
was it he was a man I'm perfectly happy
was it he was a man I'm perfectly happy with the concept that Jesus had a
with the concept that Jesus had a
with the concept that Jesus had a relationship with Mary Magdalene and
relationship with Mary Magdalene and
relationship with Mary Magdalene and that it was long and important and you
that it was long and important and you
that it was long and important and you know was one of the dominant things in
know was one of the dominant things in
know was one of the dominant things in his life he was human the idea of course
his life he was human the idea of course
his life he was human the idea of course that Jesus may have had a very special
that Jesus may have had a very special
that Jesus may have had a very special relationship with Mary may be offensive
relationship with Mary may be offensive
relationship with Mary may be offensive to many Christians but some historians
to many Christians but some historians
to many Christians but some historians have gone even further they've suggested
have gone even further they've suggested
have gone even further they've suggested that Jesus and Mary might have married
that Jesus and Mary might have married
that Jesus and Mary might have married that they might even have had children
that they might even have had children
that they might even have had children so if we're trying to find out where in
so if we're trying to find out where in
so if we're trying to find out where in his flight from the Romans Jesus could
his flight from the Romans Jesus could
his flight from the Romans Jesus could have gone perhaps we should start by
have gone perhaps we should start by
have gone perhaps we should start by finding out where Mary went
there is a tradition that some years
there is a tradition that some years
there is a tradition that some years after the crucifixion Mary Magdalene
after the crucifixion Mary Magdalene
after the crucifixion Mary Magdalene came to the Camargue region of the South
came to the Camargue region of the South
came to the Camargue region of the South of France
of France
of France here she lived and died and the Basilica
here she lived and died and the Basilica
here she lived and died and the Basilica Santa Mary Madeline is a shrine to her
Santa Mary Madeline is a shrine to her
Santa Mary Madeline is a shrine to her memory this was the center of what
memory this was the center of what
memory this was the center of what became known as the cult of the
became known as the cult of the
became known as the cult of the Magdalene
Magdalene
Magdalene we counted the mag Doon was very
we counted the mag Doon was very
we counted the mag Doon was very powerful in France up until the Middle
powerful in France up until the Middle
powerful in France up until the Middle Ages the faithful wanted to believe in a
Ages the faithful wanted to believe in a
Ages the faithful wanted to believe in a mother figure and the church were very
mother figure and the church were very
mother figure and the church were very anxious that they should not believe in
anxious that they should not believe in
anxious that they should not believe in Mary Magdalene as having been a mother
Mary Magdalene as having been a mother
Mary Magdalene as having been a mother figure for obvious reasons which were
figure for obvious reasons which were
figure for obvious reasons which were that she might have been the spouse of
that she might have been the spouse of
that she might have been the spouse of Christ that she might have had his child
Christ that she might have had his child
Christ that she might have had his child that she might have produced her
that she might have produced her
that she might have produced her bloodline the local legend describes how
bloodline the local legend describes how
bloodline the local legend describes how Mary Magdalene came here with her
Mary Magdalene came here with her
Mary Magdalene came here with her brother Lazarus and her sister Martha
brother Lazarus and her sister Martha
brother Lazarus and her sister Martha and a few companions
if the relationship between Jesus and
if the relationship between Jesus and
if the relationship between Jesus and Mary was as close as some sources
Mary was as close as some sources
Mary was as close as some sources suggest perhaps one of those companions
suggest perhaps one of those companions
suggest perhaps one of those companions traveling incognito for fear of arrest
traveling incognito for fear of arrest
traveling incognito for fear of arrest by the Romans was Jesus himself Jesus
by the Romans was Jesus himself Jesus
by the Romans was Jesus himself Jesus could have taken ship at Caesarea or one
could have taken ship at Caesarea or one
could have taken ship at Caesarea or one of the smaller ports at the Syrian coast
of the smaller ports at the Syrian coast
of the smaller ports at the Syrian coast and he could have left for another life
and he could have left for another life
and he could have left for another life and he could well have arrived as a lot
and he could well have arrived as a lot
and he could well have arrived as a lot of people believed in this part of
of people believed in this part of
of people believed in this part of France and began a new life he could
France and began a new life he could
France and began a new life he could even have bought his family with them so
even have bought his family with them so
even have bought his family with them so these stories could have a historical
these stories could have a historical
these stories could have a historical foundation
after her death Mary Magdalene's relics
after her death Mary Magdalene's relics
after her death Mary Magdalene's relics were placed in a sarcophagus and then
were placed in a sarcophagus and then
were placed in a sarcophagus and then hidden it was not until 12 79 that they
hidden it was not until 12 79 that they
hidden it was not until 12 79 that they were rediscovered and this basilica was
were rediscovered and this basilica was
were rediscovered and this basilica was built for their safekeeping sealed
built for their safekeeping sealed
built for their safekeeping sealed within the crypt in the center of the
within the crypt in the center of the
within the crypt in the center of the church is what is claimed to be the
church is what is claimed to be the
church is what is claimed to be the skull of Mary Magdalene
the idea that Jesus went to the south of
the idea that Jesus went to the south of
the idea that Jesus went to the south of France may seem far-fetched after all if
France may seem far-fetched after all if
France may seem far-fetched after all if any of the stories were true it's hard
any of the stories were true it's hard
any of the stories were true it's hard to believe that the original writers of
to believe that the original writers of
to believe that the original writers of the Gospels could have completely
the Gospels could have completely
the Gospels could have completely eradicated all of the evidence if the
eradicated all of the evidence if the
eradicated all of the evidence if the faithful knew that Jesus was in fact
faithful knew that Jesus was in fact
faithful knew that Jesus was in fact still alive surely they would have
still alive surely they would have
still alive surely they would have shared that knowledge and surely they
shared that knowledge and surely they
shared that knowledge and surely they must have hoped that at some time in the
must have hoped that at some time in the
must have hoped that at some time in the future it would have been safe for Jesus
future it would have been safe for Jesus
future it would have been safe for Jesus to return and evidence for that hoped
to return and evidence for that hoped
to return and evidence for that hoped should be somewhere in the original text
the disciples were expecting Jesus to
the disciples were expecting Jesus to
the disciples were expecting Jesus to return they were expecting what has
return they were expecting what has
return they were expecting what has become known as the second coming and
become known as the second coming and
become known as the second coming and this was not necessarily going to be a
this was not necessarily going to be a
this was not necessarily going to be a miraculous return Jesus definitely went
miraculous return Jesus definitely went
miraculous return Jesus definitely went away whatever view of resurrection you
away whatever view of resurrection you
away whatever view of resurrection you take resuscitation or divine miracle in
take resuscitation or divine miracle in
take resuscitation or divine miracle in a traditional sense of belief in
a traditional sense of belief in
a traditional sense of belief in resurrection he goes away he says I'm
resurrection he goes away he says I'm
resurrection he goes away he says I'm going away the disciples say can we come
going away the disciples say can we come
going away the disciples say can we come he says no he says I'm going to come
he says no he says I'm going to come
he says no he says I'm going to come again now what's interesting about that
again now what's interesting about that
again now what's interesting about that is normally if someone says they're
is normally if someone says they're
is normally if someone says they're going away they're going to come back
going away they're going to come back
going away they're going to come back any sort of looking at your watch or
any sort of looking at your watch or
any sort of looking at your watch or your calendar wondering okay say they
your calendar wondering okay say they
your calendar wondering okay say they went away is going to come back you'd
went away is going to come back you'd
went away is going to come back you'd take it in that everyday sense the
take it in that everyday sense the
take it in that everyday sense the concept of the heavenly second coming of
concept of the heavenly second coming of
concept of the heavenly second coming of Jesus returning on the day of judgment
Jesus returning on the day of judgment
Jesus returning on the day of judgment was only created after it was clear that
was only created after it was clear that
was only created after it was clear that Jesus had not returned in that everyday
Jesus had not returned in that everyday
Jesus had not returned in that everyday sense
sense
sense but if Jesus did decide to leave
but if Jesus did decide to leave
but if Jesus did decide to leave Palestine France still doesn't seem like
Palestine France still doesn't seem like
Palestine France still doesn't seem like a likely destination it was after all a
a likely destination it was after all a
a likely destination it was after all a Roman colony some claim that if Jesus
Roman colony some claim that if Jesus
Roman colony some claim that if Jesus did survive the crucifixion his first
did survive the crucifixion his first
did survive the crucifixion his first priority would be to escape from the
priority would be to escape from the
priority would be to escape from the clutches of the Romans Jesus I think
clutches of the Romans Jesus I think
clutches of the Romans Jesus I think would have to leave the territory and we
would have to leave the territory and we
would have to leave the territory and we have to ask the question where would he
have to ask the question where would he
have to ask the question where would he go
go
go and just look at a map Palestine is on
and just look at a map Palestine is on
and just look at a map Palestine is on the far eastern border of the Roman
the far eastern border of the Roman
the far eastern border of the Roman Empire Figo West you're going right into
Empire Figo West you're going right into
Empire Figo West you're going right into the heart of Roman territory where we
the heart of Roman territory where we
the heart of Roman territory where we have our 15 legions stationed around the
have our 15 legions stationed around the
have our 15 legions stationed around the world if you go east you're crossing
world if you go east you're crossing
world if you go east you're crossing over into parkia and you're going
over into parkia and you're going
over into parkia and you're going towards Persia eventually in India and
towards Persia eventually in India and
towards Persia eventually in India and Afghanistan that direction
but apart from escaping Rio rest why
but apart from escaping Rio rest why
but apart from escaping Rio rest why would Jesus travel east and how would he
would Jesus travel east and how would he
would Jesus travel east and how would he get there if Jesus did want to travel
get there if Jesus did want to travel
get there if Jesus did want to travel east away from the Roman Empire the
east away from the Roman Empire the
east away from the Roman Empire the journey from Israel was surprisingly
journey from Israel was surprisingly
journey from Israel was surprisingly easy by land or by sea on the silk route
easy by land or by sea on the silk route
easy by land or by sea on the silk route or the spice route it's an accepted fact
or the spice route it's an accepted fact
or the spice route it's an accepted fact for instance that the disciple Thomas
for instance that the disciple Thomas
for instance that the disciple Thomas traveled to India and founded a
traveled to India and founded a
traveled to India and founded a Christian Church there
the great tradition of the Indian church
the great tradition of the Indian church
the great tradition of the Indian church is that it was founded by Thomas the
is that it was founded by Thomas the
is that it was founded by Thomas the Apostle to travel to India would be no
Apostle to travel to India would be no
Apostle to travel to India would be no problem he just had to go down to Gaza a
problem he just had to go down to Gaza a
problem he just had to go down to Gaza a link up with one of the Spice trains
link up with one of the Spice trains
link up with one of the Spice trains returning and then from Yemen get a boat
returning and then from Yemen get a boat
returning and then from Yemen get a boat to India it would have been a very
to India it would have been a very
to India it would have been a very simple easy procedure that was done
simple easy procedure that was done
simple easy procedure that was done regularly and there's another reason why
regularly and there's another reason why
regularly and there's another reason why Jesus might have been tempted to go east
Jesus might have been tempted to go east
Jesus might have been tempted to go east but to understand that we have to go
but to understand that we have to go
but to understand that we have to go back to the year of his birth
we all recognize the story in Matthew's
we all recognize the story in Matthew's
we all recognize the story in Matthew's Gospel of the three wise men from the
Gospel of the three wise men from the
Gospel of the three wise men from the east who followed a star and presented
east who followed a star and presented
east who followed a star and presented themselves and their gifts to the baby
themselves and their gifts to the baby
themselves and their gifts to the baby Jesus what we perhaps don't recognize
Jesus what we perhaps don't recognize
Jesus what we perhaps don't recognize immediately is the similarity between
immediately is the similarity between
immediately is the similarity between this story and the traditions of a
this story and the traditions of a
this story and the traditions of a religion that is five hundred years
religion that is five hundred years
religion that is five hundred years older than Christianity Buddhism
when a great Buddhist holy man or Lama
when a great Buddhist holy man or Lama
when a great Buddhist holy man or Lama dies wise men consult the Stars and
dies wise men consult the Stars and
dies wise men consult the Stars and other omens and set off often on
other omens and set off often on
other omens and set off often on extraordinarily long journeys to find
extraordinarily long journeys to find
extraordinarily long journeys to find the infant who is the reincarnation of
the infant who is the reincarnation of
the infant who is the reincarnation of the llama
the llama
the llama when the child is old enough he's taken
when the child is old enough he's taken
when the child is old enough he's taken away from his parents and educated in
away from his parents and educated in
away from his parents and educated in the Buddhist faith could this be the
the Buddhist faith could this be the
the Buddhist faith could this be the origin of the story of the three wise
origin of the story of the three wise
origin of the story of the three wise men could Jesus have been taken to India
men could Jesus have been taken to India
men could Jesus have been taken to India as a child and taught as a Buddhist the
as a child and taught as a Buddhist the
as a child and taught as a Buddhist the Russian writer
Russian writer
Russian writer Nicola note ovitch traveling in India in
Nicola note ovitch traveling in India in
Nicola note ovitch traveling in India in the 19th century discovered an ancient
the 19th century discovered an ancient
the 19th century discovered an ancient manuscript in a Buddhist monastery in
manuscript in a Buddhist monastery in
manuscript in a Buddhist monastery in Tibet in his book the unknown life of
Tibet in his book the unknown life of
Tibet in his book the unknown life of Jesus Christ not ovitch translated this
Jesus Christ not ovitch translated this
Jesus Christ not ovitch translated this manuscript and it tells of a divine
manuscript and it tells of a divine
manuscript and it tells of a divine child called ISA born in the first
child called ISA born in the first
child called ISA born in the first century to a poor family in Israel ISA
century to a poor family in Israel ISA
century to a poor family in Israel ISA came to India at the age of fourteen
came to India at the age of fourteen
came to India at the age of fourteen where he learned the laws of Buddhism
where he learned the laws of Buddhism
where he learned the laws of Buddhism before returning to Israel at the age of
before returning to Israel at the age of
before returning to Israel at the age of 29 this idea would certainly explain the
29 this idea would certainly explain the
29 this idea would certainly explain the otherwise odd fact that from the age of
otherwise odd fact that from the age of
otherwise odd fact that from the age of 14 to 29 there's absolutely no record of
14 to 29 there's absolutely no record of
14 to 29 there's absolutely no record of Jesus existence in Palestine certainly
Jesus existence in Palestine certainly
Jesus existence in Palestine certainly Jesus later teaching and miracles have
Jesus later teaching and miracles have
Jesus later teaching and miracles have uncanny parallels with the teaching and
uncanny parallels with the teaching and
uncanny parallels with the teaching and miracles of the Buddha loving your
miracles of the Buddha loving your
miracles of the Buddha loving your enemies and the idea that the meek will
enemies and the idea that the meek will
enemies and the idea that the meek will inherit the earth have absolutely no
inherit the earth have absolutely no
inherit the earth have absolutely no tradition in the Jewish religion but are
tradition in the Jewish religion but are
tradition in the Jewish religion but are entirely consistent with Buddhism and
entirely consistent with Buddhism and
entirely consistent with Buddhism and for the Buddha was known to walk on
for the Buddha was known to walk on
for the Buddha was known to walk on water and miraculously to feed many
water and miraculously to feed many
water and miraculously to feed many hundreds of his disciples with only a
hundreds of his disciples with only a
hundreds of his disciples with only a few scraps of food
but if Jesus traveled or returned to the
but if Jesus traveled or returned to the
but if Jesus traveled or returned to the east surely there would be legend like
east surely there would be legend like
east surely there would be legend like those in the South of France to support
those in the South of France to support
those in the South of France to support the idea and of course there are such
the idea and of course there are such
the idea and of course there are such traditions the people here in Kashmir
traditions the people here in Kashmir
traditions the people here in Kashmir called their tribe Ben G Israel and
called their tribe Ben G Israel and
called their tribe Ben G Israel and claim to be descendants of the Lost
claim to be descendants of the Lost
claim to be descendants of the Lost Tribes
and here there are stories that the
and here there are stories that the
and here there are stories that the first century preacher Issa known
first century preacher Issa known
first century preacher Issa known locally as Yosef meaning leader of the
locally as Yosef meaning leader of the
locally as Yosef meaning leader of the healed returned to Kashmir in his 30s
use a saps ministry here can easily be
use a saps ministry here can easily be
use a saps ministry here can easily be seen as a continuation of the Jesus
seen as a continuation of the Jesus
seen as a continuation of the Jesus ministry
and in a local temple called the Temple
and in a local temple called the Temple
and in a local temple called the Temple of Solomon
of Solomon
of Solomon there used to be an inscription which
there used to be an inscription which
there used to be an inscription which told of us our serfs claim around the
told of us our serfs claim around the
told of us our serfs claim around the earth 50 ad to be Jesus the Prophet from
earth 50 ad to be Jesus the Prophet from
earth 50 ad to be Jesus the Prophet from Israel
tamam - creepy
tamam - creepy
tamam - creepy kashmira history books tell us that your
kashmira history books tell us that your
kashmira history books tell us that your sauce off came from abroad
sauce off came from abroad
sauce off came from abroad yeah yeah profit ah he was a prophet and
yeah yeah profit ah he was a prophet and
yeah yeah profit ah he was a prophet and a messenger he came from Israel if alien
a messenger he came from Israel if alien
a messenger he came from Israel if alien CI a-- listening he came to spread his
CI a-- listening he came to spread his
CI a-- listening he came to spread his teachings voided my eye he lived and
teachings voided my eye he lived and
teachings voided my eye he lived and died here
died here
died here yeah he w that matter hi well he jesus
yeah he w that matter hi well he jesus
yeah he w that matter hi well he jesus my mushy be he is jesus he is he's on yo
my mushy be he is jesus he is he's on yo
my mushy be he is jesus he is he's on yo the meaning of you saw sup he came at
the meaning of you saw sup he came at
the meaning of you saw sup he came at the healer who there's another meaning
the healer who there's another meaning
the healer who there's another meaning is the shepherd one who teaches others
is the shepherd one who teaches others
is the shepherd one who teaches others chef IL VA was quote and our history
chef IL VA was quote and our history
chef IL VA was quote and our history books confirmed that ISA was known as
books confirmed that ISA was known as
books confirmed that ISA was known as USSR here in Kashmir Munir Jamaica a
USSR here in Kashmir Munir Jamaica a
USSR here in Kashmir Munir Jamaica a wallet
wallet
wallet Yossef continued to teach and preach in
Yossef continued to teach and preach in
Yossef continued to teach and preach in Kashmir until he died around the Year 80
Kashmir until he died around the Year 80
Kashmir until he died around the Year 80 AD he was buried in Srinagar
and this they say is yourselves tuned
the first building erected around this
the first building erected around this
the first building erected around this site was built in 112 ad in fact it's
site was built in 112 ad in fact it's
site was built in 112 ad in fact it's now a shared grave site in the 15th
now a shared grave site in the 15th
now a shared grave site in the 15th century the Islamic holy man Siad Nazir
century the Islamic holy man Siad Nazir
century the Islamic holy man Siad Nazir Ogden was also buried here
although both gravestones under the
although both gravestones under the
although both gravestones under the cloth point north-south in the Islamic
cloth point north-south in the Islamic
cloth point north-south in the Islamic tradition the body of Yosef is buried
tradition the body of Yosef is buried
tradition the body of Yosef is buried beneath in a grave dug east-west in the
beneath in a grave dug east-west in the
beneath in a grave dug east-west in the Jewish tradition
next to the sarcophagus a - carved
next to the sarcophagus a - carved
next to the sarcophagus a - carved footprints
footprints
footprints the marks on these are said to be the
the marks on these are said to be the
the marks on these are said to be the symbolic representations of the scars of
symbolic representations of the scars of
symbolic representations of the scars of crucifixion
crucifixion
crucifixion atchoo Madame a year for pariah
atchoo Madame a year for pariah
atchoo Madame a year for pariah the footprints were carved as a sign fun
the footprints were carved as a sign fun
the footprints were carved as a sign fun the scars are clearly visible received
the scars are clearly visible received
the scars are clearly visible received when he was nailed to the cross directly
when he was nailed to the cross directly
when he was nailed to the cross directly at okay I'm sure they show that this is
at okay I'm sure they show that this is
at okay I'm sure they show that this is the same person who came from Israel and
the same person who came from Israel and
the same person who came from Israel and that he lived and died here know that
that he lived and died here know that
that he lived and died here know that yeah you won't find any footprints like
yeah you won't find any footprints like
yeah you won't find any footprints like these anywhere else in Kashmir we don't
these anywhere else in Kashmir we don't
these anywhere else in Kashmir we don't have that traditionally the position of
have that traditionally the position of
have that traditionally the position of the scars just behind the toes do not
the scars just behind the toes do not
the scars just behind the toes do not match each other but they would align if
match each other but they would align if
match each other but they would align if a single nail was driven through both
a single nail was driven through both
a single nail was driven through both feet with the left foot placed over the
feet with the left foot placed over the
feet with the left foot placed over the right
there are many who believe this tomb to
there are many who believe this tomb to
there are many who believe this tomb to be the tomb of Jesus
if this is the tomb of Jesus then he
if this is the tomb of Jesus then he
if this is the tomb of Jesus then he spent most of his life in the Mountain
spent most of his life in the Mountain
spent most of his life in the Mountain Kingdom of Kashmir
he did not die on the cross there was no
he did not die on the cross there was no
he did not die on the cross there was no resurrection he did not ascend into
resurrection he did not ascend into
resurrection he did not ascend into heaven and he does not sit at the right
heaven and he does not sit at the right
heaven and he does not sit at the right hand of God
hand of God
hand of God for many Christians this would be the
for many Christians this would be the
for many Christians this would be the end of Christianity as we know it
but for some the original story would
but for some the original story would
but for some the original story would still have a poetic power
still have a poetic power
still have a poetic power for me the resurrection is about death
for me the resurrection is about death
for me the resurrection is about death the two things that will happen to us
the two things that will happen to us
the two things that will happen to us all in our life is that would be born
all in our life is that would be born
all in our life is that would be born and that will die there the two things
and that will die there the two things
and that will die there the two things we know nothing about and we have this
we know nothing about and we have this
we know nothing about and we have this great void before we have this great
great void before we have this great
great void before we have this great void afterwards so any system of belief
void afterwards so any system of belief
void afterwards so any system of belief any religion any church that set itself
any religion any church that set itself
any religion any church that set itself up has always had to have some concept
up has always had to have some concept
up has always had to have some concept some way of dealing with death
so in Jesus's resurrection at the end of
so in Jesus's resurrection at the end of
so in Jesus's resurrection at the end of the the Easter story is the symbolism of
the the Easter story is the symbolism of
the the Easter story is the symbolism of our own resurrection of our own new life
that in many ways is the great strength
that in many ways is the great strength
that in many ways is the great strength of Christianity and I think to kind of
of Christianity and I think to kind of
of Christianity and I think to kind of get away from it to get away from that
get away from it to get away from that
get away from it to get away from that incredibly powerful symbolism of the
incredibly powerful symbolism of the
incredibly powerful symbolism of the Resurrection that touches each and every
Resurrection that touches each and every
Resurrection that touches each and every one of us because of the reality of what
one of us because of the reality of what
one of us because of the reality of what will happen to us and start debating
will happen to us and start debating
will happen to us and start debating whether you know bones in a to matter or
whether you know bones in a to matter or
whether you know bones in a to matter or whether it actually happened completely
whether it actually happened completely
whether it actually happened completely misses the point of Christianity and
misses the point of Christianity and
misses the point of Christianity and there will always be those for whom none
there will always be those for whom none
there will always be those for whom none of the inconsistencies and anomalies in
of the inconsistencies and anomalies in
of the inconsistencies and anomalies in the Gospels mean anything for them the
the Gospels mean anything for them the
the Gospels mean anything for them the story still has the hallmarks of truth
story still has the hallmarks of truth
story still has the hallmarks of truth of gospel truth I understand that people
of gospel truth I understand that people
of gospel truth I understand that people find it difficult to believe because we
find it difficult to believe because we
find it difficult to believe because we know these things don't happen if you
know these things don't happen if you
know these things don't happen if you think that you've just seen somebody who
think that you've just seen somebody who
think that you've just seen somebody who is dead now alive again you say well
is dead now alive again you say well
is dead now alive again you say well take two aspirins and lie down it'll go
take two aspirins and lie down it'll go
take two aspirins and lie down it'll go away and and the thing was you didn't go
away and and the thing was you didn't go
away and and the thing was you didn't go away and what we have in the Gospels is
away and what we have in the Gospels is
away and what we have in the Gospels is not stories of people saying well of
not stories of people saying well of
not stories of people saying well of course here he is he's live again have
course here he is he's live again have
course here he is he's live again have stories people say what do you mean
stories people say what do you mean
stories people say what do you mean don't be silly that can't happen they
don't be silly that can't happen they
don't be silly that can't happen they knew as well as we do and yet right in
knew as well as we do and yet right in
knew as well as we do and yet right in the heart of it all they come back and
the heart of it all they come back and
the heart of it all they come back and say it really has happened it's
say it really has happened it's
say it really has happened it's completely blown us away it changed our
completely blown us away it changed our
completely blown us away it changed our worldview and it's gone on changing
worldview and it's gone on changing
worldview and it's gone on changing people's worldviews ever since
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