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MEDIA : Heather Gabriel
Chinook,

Inga Monique Hall, Tanya..

MEDIA : It is becoming
depressingly familiar - names

of the latest women who police
say were murdered

by Robert Pickton

MEDIA : Tanya
Marlow Pollack...

MEDIA : Robert Pickton's now
charged with murdering a

seventh woman, Brenda Wolfe,
who disappeared 3 years ago.

This case is now the largest
serial killer investigation

in Canadian history.

NARRATOR: The
voice of a killer.

NARRATOR: Words the
jury did not hear.

LYNNE ELLINGSON: I really
would like to know why he kept

me alive through all this.

Like I think that was more
punishment

than actually killing me, right?

NARRATOR: Willie Pickton's
closest associates reveal what

they knew, and what they
kept from police for years.

MEDIA : Yvonne Bowen, Andrea
Borhaven, Wendy Crawford..

ANDY BELLWOODS: Willie was
supplying all these people's

wants and needs.

I believe some of the
people were helping him...

in a lot of bad ways.

MEDIA : Last month, Pickton
was charged with the

1st degree murders of Mona
Wilson and Serena Abbotsway.

CPL.FRANK HENLEY: He's
unobtrusive, he's quiet,

he's polite.

He fits perfectly the
description

of a serial killer.

LISA YELDS: Every human is
capable of killing, but I just

really don't think that Willie
could do it all on his own.

And to this
day, I'm still not sure what

happened on that farm

NARRATOR: A place that
harbored horrible secrets,

where a circle of need allowed
a cagey killer

to escape capture.

Again and again.

[♪]

NARRATOR: In this part of
Vancouver, misery has

a lot of company.

It's the last stop for the
dispossessed, the desperate,

the addicted.

And a magnet for those who
take advantage of them.

STITCH: I was an
addict from downtown eastside.

It's dog-eat-dog down there.

The hotels on the downtown
east-side are the size of a

jail cell - A lot of
cockroaches, a lot of grub,

a lot of dirt - not a
happy place to live.

CONST. DAVE DICKSON [RET]:
You've probably got as many as,

you know, three or four thousand
drug users in that area.

And that's for the poorest
postal code in Canada.

You know, you're talking
about a group of people that

probably uses about $200
million a year

in illicit drugs.

ELAINE ALLEN: Downtown
Eastside women tend to be

women who are in the
survival sex trade.

Their addictions are
so out of control.

They are either high when
they're making the decisions

about who's car their getting
into, or they're so desperate

to get high that they're going
through acute withdrawal,

which makes them physically
really ill that they're making

bad judgment calls about who's
vehicles they're getting

into to turn tricks.

CONST. DAVE DICKSON [RET]: The
Downtown Eastside over the

years has been basically a
hunting ground for every

predator or pervert in Canada
and sometimes out of Canada.

NARRATOR: It would be years
before anyone could prove that

a socially awkward bachelor
was preying on women

from the Downtown Eastside.

In early 1997, all that
distinguished Robert "Willie"

Pickton from the other johns
was his rubber boots and

smelly pick-up truck.

PICKTON: Ok, here
goes nothing.

NARRATOR: The voice
of Willie Pickton.

NARRATOR: From an audio
diary he recorded in 1991.

NARRATOR: Willie Pickton was
on familiar turf,

cruising the Downtown Eastside.

At the corner of Cordova
Street and Princess Avenue,

he set his sights on a
thirty-one year old prostitute.

Her street name was "Stitch",
a mother of two,

who'd struggled for years
to kick her addiction.

STITCH: This pick-up truck
pulled over, asked me to go up

to his place and I
asked him where it was.

He said
"Coquitlam" and I said,

"naw, that's a little too far".

He says "well, I'll give you
a hundred bucks" and he goes

"I'll bring you back
within an hour and a half."

So I said "Yah, okay".

So then we start driving
out and I spotted a women's

brassiere bra on his seat and
I picked it up and I said

"who's is this", and he says
"oh, just a date

I had last weekend".

And I started
getting creeped out.

But I didn't get the
opportunity to bail out,

so I followed through.

NARRATOR: Stitch had no way
of knowing that her instincts

were dead on-that other women
had vanished in recent months.

And that their DNA would
eventually be found on

Pickton's property.

The jury never heard Stitch
tell her story, and until now

the public hasn't either.

STITCH: We got to his place
and we pulled in - he had to

get out and unlock his gate.

I didn't know it was a farm.

It was more of a junkyard.

Beat-up old wrecked cars.

And then we went in.

We went down through the
trailer towards the back room

and as we were going through,
I remember the kitchen was so

dirty and grubby but I
remember this big, large

butcher knife sitting
on this table.

Then you go further down and
uh, we went into a room where

there was no bed or nothin,
just a big roll of plastic -

clear plastic.

And sleeping bag on the floor.

After the room, I asked him if
I could borrow his phone, cuz

I wanted to call my boyfriend
at that time -and tell him

where I was and that
I'm on my way back.

And I was bent over the table
looking for the hotel number

where we were staying and I
could feel something behind me

and I turned around and it
was him behind me and he had

grabbed my left hand and
caressed it, and real quickly

he slapped a handcuff
on my left hand.

I wasn't sure if he was gonna
try and rape me,

try and kill me.

And then the first thing I
remembered was that butcher

knife on the kitchen table.

I'm not gonna lie,
I tried to kill him.

STITCH: Either I
died or he died.

And I fought for my life.

I could just feel this hot
stuff runnin down my chest,

runnin down my body,
and I knew it was blood.

He stabbed me four times -
twice in the abdomen, once on

my rib cage, punctured one
of my lungs,

and a cut on my left arm.

I figured I was gonna
die walkin' outta here.

MARIA MILLS: I had saw someone
coming down the driveway

towards the street.

I thought it was a woman, just
because she was quite slight.

As she got closer down towards
the end of the driveway,

we heard her saying "Help
me, Please help me."

[♪]

MARIA MILLS: She leaned
against the window and she had

a large kitchen
knife in her hand.

She just kept repeating the
same thing, "please help me,

please help me."

What I think affected me the
most was when she leaned up

against the car and I saw the
handcuffs, because then to me

it wasn't an accident.

It wasn't - she fell
through a glass window.

This was something that
was serious, and...evil.

NARRATOR: Both Stitch and
Pickton were seriously

injured, with
multiple stab wounds.

Maria Mills called an
ambulance for Stitch...

Pickton managed to drive
himself to the same hospital.

An orderly found a
key in his pocket.

It fit the handcuff
on Stitch's wrist.

NARRATOR: The RCMP
investigated.

Pickton was charged him with
four offenses,

including attempted murder.

But the prosecutor believed
a conviction was unlikely

because Stitch "was
a drug user"...

and "credibility
would be an issue."

So the charges
were not pursued.

Willie Pickton
remained a free man.

[♪]

NARRATOR: From Pickton's
tape-recorded journal.

NARRATOR: Port Coquitlam
is one of Vancouver's

ever-expanding suburbs.

In 1994 and 95, the Pickton
family made a fortune selling

off parcels of
land to developers.

New houses sprouted
like mushrooms.

Willie and his younger brother
Dave stayed on what was left

of their property.

As they started getting rich,
the farm became a revolving

door for the needy
and the greedy.

LISA YELDS: Do you
know something?

Before Willie and Dave got
their money it was generally

a working farm.

After they got their money
more people started coming

around, more people started
hanging around, and it just

got out of hand because all of
the sudden everybody wanted a

piece of the action.

ANDY BELLWOOD: I was just
like everybody else that was

hanging around that farm.

We all needed shelter, we
needed money, some of the

people needed their
drugs, work, or whatever.

It seemed that everybody that
hung around that farm all had

a need, all had a want.

LISA YELDS: They call
themselves friends but they

basically wanted what they
could get out of him for free.

They wanted to borrow money,
they wanted vehicles.

They wanted a free ride
and not pay him back.

They would give him a, a cock
and bull story that they "oh

you know I need ten thousand
dollars cause I'm I trouble"

and Willie would be dumb
enough to give it to em.

ANDY BELLWOODS: Willie was
supplying all these people's

wants and needs for something.

And I believe for some of the
people it was helping him

in a lot of bad ways.

NARRATOR: Ways that would
allow Pickton

to get away with murder.
For years.

[♪]

NARRATOR: In 1997, more than
a dozen women vanished from

Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.

But the pattern wasn't clear
yet, even to those

who lived there.

NARRATOR: 23-year-old Marnie
Frey had drifted

a long way from her roots.

LYNN FREY: Marnie was a very
healthy, happy, cheerful, just

a normal average young girl.

You know, went to school,
went horseback riding,

went swimming.

Just the average household
raising a child.

Happy.

NARRATOR: But Marnie got
in with a bad crowd in her

teens....started using
cocaine and heroin.

LYNN FREY: The few times we
did bring Marnie home she was

so sick she couldn't move.

She had the shakes, she was
vomiting she had the runs,

I mean it was like a
real, real bad flu.

And I, I just couldn't fathom,
anybody being in so much pain.

NARRATOR: August 30th, 1997.

Marnie's birthday.

A day she always got in
touch with her family.

LYNN FREY: That night that, on
her birthday, I thought well

she's probably out partying...

that's why she hasn't called,
I guess she's not coming home.

The next day about the same
time, I think it was about a

week, week and a half of
her not phoning, I started

getting, having really bad
dreams at night

that she was in trouble.

Not that she was dead
or that she, something

happ-bad-that...

she was in trouble somewhere,
and I could hear her crying

and I could hear her scream
and she had a scream like

you'd never forget the scream,
she's got a good, loud scream.

NARRATOR: Dave Dickson was
a beat cop on

the Downtown Eastside.

After almost two decades in
the neighborhood, he was used

to people coming and going.

But he was starting to notice
a change in the pattern.

CONST. DAVE DICKSON [RET]:
I would wake up in the middle of

the night, you know, with a
certain face or picture

of a girl that I hadn't
seen for a while.

Or then somebody, you know,
the next day would mention to

me that we haven't seen
So-and-So for a while.

So that's sort of how it
started and

I started to write names down.

There was something happening
but I just couldn't say what.

[♪]

NARRATOR: An excerpt from
Willie Pickton's audio diary.

LISA YELDS: Willie is simple
and in some ways he's not.

There's a possibility that
I think he does have some

psychiatric problems.

He is slow in a lot of ways
where he's not worldly because

it's from non-exposure.

So like it's an example when
he watches TV, which was very

rare he would get into a show
so deep and it would be a

fantasy show about something
it was like it was almost like

he was picturing himself
there and doing it.

That he didn't know the
difference at that point

between reality and fantasy.

[♪]

NARRATOR: One person was able
to bring Willie out of his

shell, a crack addict he'd
first met in the early 90's on

the Downtown East side.

Her name was Gina Houston.

GINA HOUSTON: I always said
I was the biggest and best

crack-whore there ever was,
but I never,

ever had to put out.

I always got the crack with
letting the guy think

he's going to get lucky and
always left thinking they got

lucky and not realizing that
they got

but didn't get laid.

That's the best
way to describe it.

NARRATOR: Gina's methods didn't
seem to matter to Willie.

He adored her.

GINA HOUSTON: I believe
Willie was in love with me.

I've been told that they
figure he has me on a pedestal

so high that they
just don't know why.

I still don't know why.

We talked about getting
married lots of times.

Um, he really wanted to get
married and have the white

picket fence and the
family and everything.

Um... one time after the
Vancouver City Police auctions

that we worked at, after the,
I don't know, last day coming,

when he was driving me home,
when I was tired, um,

he'd handed me a ring.

And I don't know, I, in my, I
was so tired and so exhausted

and I really don't know what
I said to him but I remember

saying, "What the do
I want with another ring?"

I knew that it was a
big boo boo on my part.

LISA FELDS: I have no idea
what hold Gina had over

Willie Pickton but I know she
was abusing him and using him,

and he just thought the
sun shone out her ass.

And you know it's funny
because everybody on the farm

could see that she was
fleecing him, and nobody could

convince him otherwise, that
she as the wrong person

to be around.

What the two of them had
together as friends?

I have no idea.

NARRATOR: It was now months
since Marnie Frey's family

had heard from her.

Her stepmother reported her
missing to Vancouver City

Police and says the response
was anything but sympathetic.

LYNN FREY: I asked the
Vancouver city police if they

could contact the Ministry of
Social Services and Housing,

when ... to see if her last
cheque was picked up or where

she was residing or you know
could I get to her apartment

or did she live in a boarding
house, where was she living?

But due to confidentiality
basically, they didn't tell me

in so many words to shut up or
get out, but basically they

told me that there's nothing
they could do for me.

NARRATOR: While Lynn Frey was
being told there was nothing

police could do, Constable
Dickson was

trying to get answers.

CONST. DAVE DICKSON [RET]:
Some of them used to get a,

some money from the St. James
Social Services.

You know, so I checked with
them to see if they'd had any

record of them.

I checked with the different
organizations to see if they'd

stayed at some
of the shelters.

You know, but
literally nothing.

And then the final check, you
know, was with the Ministry of

Social Services, you know, to
see if they'd picked up their

social assistance cheque.

But when I checked that, you
know, I had to actually go to

the office where they were
collecting because the

computer would just show that
the file had been closed.

So I had to go to the office
where they were actually

collecting the cheque and
their computers had

a bit more information.

And in every instance it
showed the file was closed

because the cheque
was never picked up.

And that for me was, was the,
you know, the light went on

and I thought, no
that's not right.

NARRATOR: In early 1998,
more women disappeared.

Kerry Koski in January...

Inga Hall in February.

Then in April, 28-year-old
Sarah de Vries.

Unlike some of the others
who'd gone missing,

Sarah had vocal advocates.

Among them, the family who'd
adopted her as a child.

And a former john from the
Downtown Eastside who'd grown

emotionally attached to Sarah.

[♪]

WAYNE LENG: It was a strange
relationship, it's not a

relationship I've ever had
before like that, I was madly

in love with her and I know
that she wasn't madly in love

with me but I know that she
loved me as a friend she came

to trust me you know and I
meant a lot and she shared all

of her poetry with me.

She shared her writing with
me, uh, her sketches,

all of that sort of thing,
and her life.

In my estimation the Vancouver
Police Department really

dropped the ball on the
missing women issue.

We had no idea at that time
how many women

had gone missing.

And as far as they were
concerned it seemed, they were

transients and they
moved on to other cities.

You know, that sort of thing.

They did not pay a lot
of attention to it.

They didn't seem
to be interested.

When Sarah went missing I had
decided probably about 3 weeks

to a month later that, uh,
I was gonna start a

poster campaign and
that's what I did.

I thought that that was the
only way to get something out

there to get people to take
notice and so I started

printing up a pile of posters
and I started giving them out

to friends of Sarah's
and to other people.

And I continued this week
after week after week.

NARRATOR: Sarah de
Vries name was added to the

growing
list of missing women that

Constable Dave
Dickson was compiling...

CONST. DAVE DICKSON [RET]: And
it took me a few months,

to finally come up with
a list of 31 names.

And when I did the checks on
all the different names,

I came to the conclusion that
there was something happening

but I just couldn't say what.

My concern was these girls had
literally dropped off

the face of the earth.

And I got the bad feeling that
there just wasn't something,

you know, quite
right about that.

NARRATOR: Constable Dave
Dickson believed he'd gathered

enough evidence about missing
women to take his concerns up

the chain of command.

STAFF SGT. DOUG MACKAY-DUNN
[RET]: It was about June of 98.

Dave came to me in the office.

And he told me he was
concerned that there

was women were missing.

I talked to my wife who was a
nurse-who is a nurse working

in the city jail and
also at 222 Main Street.

And I asked her if - because
she does triage,

I asked her have you noticed any
of your quote "girls"

that suddenly aren't
there any more.

And she said "yeah, I noticed
a couple of girls

I haven't seen in a time".

So that sort of underscored
David's argument.

NARRATOR: Mackay-Dunn decided
to share what he'd learned

with Detective Inspector
Kim Rossmo,

an expert in statistical
analysis and on serial killers.

D.I. KIM ROSSMO [RET]: The
argument that these women

were just missing to me did
not make much sense.

One of the, um analyses I
thought would be valuable -

would be to go back twenty
years and find out how many

unfound missing women we had
from that area over time.

In other words, let's
establish a base rate, see

what is normal, rather than
just our theories

or our conjectures.

When I did that, I found that
for the years 1978 to 1994, we

had zero, one, or two
missing women unfound.

NARRATOR: According to
Rossmo's analysis, the number

of women missing in the
previous 2 years was

statistically significant.

The numbers had
spiked dramatically.

D.I. KIM ROSSMO [RET]:
Something is happening.

Why is it happening
post-1995 but not before.

Why aren't any bodies being
found, and why only women?

NARRATOR: Rossmo would later
claim that some of his bosses

did not re-act quickly enough
to the possibility

of a serial killer.

The brass' response also
disappointed Constable Dickson.

CONST. DAVE DICKSON [RET]:
There were some attitudes at the

table that, you know, we don't
have any evidence of anything

happening, we don't have any
crime scenes or we don't have

any bodies or comments like,
you know, most of them have

probably just moved
to other cities.

Some of the comments
were upsetting.

You know, and somebody said
that you can't say they're

related but I came back with,
well you can't say they're not

related, but I said they at
least deserve to be looked at.

NARRATOR: The department's
official position: there was

no real proof the missing
women were dead, no physical

evidence on which to base
a homicide investigation.

Instead, they assigned an
extra officer to

the missing persons unit.

But the '90s were a time of
severe cutbacks,

so from the start, the unit was
under-resourced

and overwhelmed.

DAVE YELDS: Willie had a real,
kind of weird

sense of humour, really.

He'd go in there if he was
slaughtering pigs that night.

He'd grab, I mean, pig guts or
pieces of the pig

and chase you around with it.

LISA YELDS: What he did, is he
um, cut the, um, penis off and

made a belt around the skin
and he'd tie it

around his waist.

My ex-husband was bending over
and he walked up

and goosed him with it.

DAVE YELDS: And he'd do that
just to bug me all the time.

GINA HOUSTON: You know when
everyone says your inner

child; well his inner
child did come out.

And he, um, liked toys and
stuffed animals and this is

one of the ones he bought
for my daughter Keisha.

It used to have, um a voice
box and even though the

batteries were dead and the
voice box turned off, when

Keisha got upset or whatever
it would still laugh it

sounded just like Willie and
it would bring,

it would humour her.

Somebody stole the voice box
out of him though, but...

Keisha calls this
her Willie bear.

And it does, when it laughs
it sounds just like Willie.

It's so cute.

And piggies.

He always bought
the kids piggies.

This one...

NARRATOR: Months went by and
Wayne Leng heard nothing from

his friend Sarah de Vries.

His tip line had become a
magnet for freaks and hoaxes.

But one call sounded genuine.

WAYNE LENG: I got this one
particular call from this

fellow named Bill, who told me
this crazy story about

a pig farmer named Willie.

And he knew somebody out on
the farm there, a woman out on

the farm he didn't name her
but he did say that she was a

friend of Willie's and she
cleaned for Willie

and this sort of thing.

And that she had told him that
Willie in his mobile home had

woman's clothing and woman's
identification, some clothing

with blood on them.

And that somebody should check
this guy out cuz

he's really weird.

There might be something
going on out there.

NARRATOR: The caller
was Bill Hiscox.

His connection to the farm was
Pickton's friend, Lisa Yelds.

BILL HISCOX: A lot of the
things that I heard from Lisa

happened when I wasn't there
but she was finding stuff that

just wasn't making sense: ID's
clothing, stuff like that,

that Willie had told her just
to burn and get rid of that

they, it meant nothing
to him basically.

I started getting a little, a
little antsy and she looked at

me and she just basically said
to me

"Bill, I think this is
where all the women are going".

And I says you know what man,
who's gonna make the call here

because if that's the truth
man and that's what's really

going on someone's gotta stop
this, somebody needs to stop

what's going on here.

And she said "well,
I'm not gonna do it".

I said "well I'm gonna do it
then" and I don't care at

whatever cost I'm gonna do it.

NARRATOR: So police went to
Lisa Yelds, hoping to verify

Hiscox's statement.

And she denied everything
Hiscox had said.

LISA YELDS: The reason I
didn't say much to the cops,

and they make take it as
stonewalling, is for one,

I hate cops.

And two, I didn't
see anything.

You give a cop an
inch, they take a mile.

They turn around, take the
story twist it ten ways to

Sunday and blow it up.

So then you're sitting in a
pile of [beep] which you didn't

even say in the first [beep]
place,

and they're twisting it
in your face.

NARRATOR: Only Yelds knows
exactly what she did

or didn't see in the trailer.

What is certain - Hiscox's
hearsay was not enough

for a search warrant.

Police needed an eyewitness
account from

Lisa Yelds to get one.

Without a warrant, a
search would be illegal.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]:
Any evidence that is found to be

obtained illegally would
not be admissible.

And you know your chances of
getting a conviction

then so fall to zero.

The average Joe can meander
onto somebody's property and

look in a window and see
something but a policeman,

if he steps onto somebody's
property, he has to have

grounds for doing that.

NARRATOR: The Hiscox tip was
intriguing, but it was

one of many possibilities.

If the women had been
murdered,

was a single
killer responsible?

Or several different
predators?

Homicide detective Ron Lepine
was assigned to draw up

a list of possible suspects.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]: So we're
looking at people who have

shown violence towards
prostitutes or maybe even

violence towards
women in general.

NARRATOR: There was no
shortage of criminals fitting

that description.

Dozens of men had been
convicted for attacking or

killing prostitutes.

There were dozens more
who'd been charged

but not convicted...

Like Willie Pickton.

CONST. DAVE DICKSON [RET]: We
had a whole wall of names,

you know, and,
and some people had actually

killed women
before and gone to jail for it.

You know, so I mean there was
other people that

I thought were better suspects.

NARRATOR: As police struggled
to narrow the scope of their

mission, women
continued to disappear.

NARRATOR: In early 1999,
Willie Pickton was on

Vancouver Police radar,
but he was one of many.

NARRATOR: New faces were
joining the ever-changing

circle of need
on the pig farm.

The latest addition - an
unemployed fisherman fresh out

of treatment for his
heroin addiction.

Andy Bellwood had met a friend
of Gina Houston in rehab,

who introduced him to Willie.

ANDY BELLWOOD: He was a, he
seemed to be a very generous

caring person that seemed to
understand my situation that,

um somebody that you would
grow very close

to very quickly.

Especially, you know in a time
of desperation,

which I would call in my life.

Um, Finishing 6 months of
treatment, I was feeling

pretty down and out at that
time, and uh,

you know desperate to get
back onto my feet.

He offered me, you know, odd
jobs, you know,

"I'll pay you 50 bucks to clean
up this scrap metal".

Or you know, "give me a hand
fixing my pick-up truck", and

it never amounted to much-50
to 100 dollars here and there.

Just sporadic.

We spent hours, talking
and talking, and talking.

It was a relationship that
grew very, very quickly and it

seemed to grow very close.

I think he trusted me.

NARRATOR: While Bellwood
was staying in the trailer,

Pickton continued to
play white knight to the

down-and-out, taking in
another addict,

who'd been kicked out of a
women's shelter

for using drugs.

She'd also met Pickton
through Gina Houston.

LYNN ELLINGSON: I
thought it was great.

I thought it was great to be
on the pig farm at the,

at the beginning, um, it was
too good to be true.

You know, like ah I only had
to do, you know, I didn't

really have to work that hard
to make that much money, you

know, I'm used to busting my
ass to to try and make my ends

meet by the end of the day.

And, um, you know, I just had
to sit and talk on the phone

and take faxes and I thought
it was great to have this kind

of money, and now having this
kind of money, um, of course

my addiction was becoming
a high habit a day.

Instead of, you know, opposed
to a 20 rock a day, well he's

giving me a couple hundred
dollars a day, so, I'm using a

couple hundred dollars a day.

It got to the point that
I was always high now.

NARRATOR: Andy Bellwood had
been staying at the trailer

for a month, when his
relationship with

Pickton took an ominous turn.

ANDY BELLWOOD: So I was
sitting in this chair watching

TV and Willie'd come through
the door behind me, proceeded

into the bedroom, sat on the
corner of his bed and

he continued to start a
conversation with me as,

"Andy, do you want
to get a hooker?

Let's go get a hooker."

And I just sat in the chair
looking at him saying,

"No, I don't want to get
a hooker, Willie, I'm not into

getting hookers."

"Come one Andy,
let's get a hooker."

"No, Willie, I don't
want to get a hooker."

Tried to keep
contact with the TV.

Willie got up from the corner
of the bed and he says,

"Andy", he says, "you know
what I do with hookers?"

And he grabbed three items
like this, one being

a leather belt, and a piece of
wire of some kind,

and a pair of handcuffs.

He preceded onto his knees
onto the bed, and pretended

there was a woman in front
of him, stroking their hair.

He motioned with his left hand
grabbing an arm that wasn't

really there and then with his
other hand he pretended

to slip on handcuffs.

Once he got the handcuffs on,
he grabbed his belt and he

motioned about getting this
belt on their neck, stroking

their hair, saying, "It's was
all going to be alright and

was gonna be all over now".

He got up from the bed sat
back down and looked at me and

said, "do you know
how much people bleed?

You wouldn't believe
how much people bleed."

He says after that, he says
that "I take them to the barn,

hang them and gut 'em".

I think that he thought
that I was deep enough in my

addiction that I would
probably go along with it.

And if I went along with it
part way well then maybe

I'm already partway, now I'm
going to go all the way....

NARRATOR: Four days after that
conversation, Bellwood got

a surprise visit from two
of Pickton's associates.

ANDY BELLWOOD: ..and they
said, "We want to speak

to you in the trailer."

And I thought, oh
ok, sure why not?

I didn't think anything of it.

I hadn't done anything wrong.

I followed them into the
trailer, and as soon as I sat

down Lynn Ellingsen's
boyfriend hit me.

They said "you had stolen
equipment out

of Willie's trailer".

"What are you talking about?

I never stole anything
out of your trailer."

I think it was just a scare
tactic to scare me away from

ever opening my mouth about
what happened between me

and Mr. Pickton.

NARRATOR: Bellwood wanted
nothing more to do with the

farm and its secrets.

He didn't want to attract
police attention either.

So he caught the next ferry to
Vancouver Island, convincing

himself that justice would
somehow take

its course without him.

ANDY BELLWOODS: If he is
actually killing people,

the police will catch him
because people don't kill people

without getting caught, really
not my mind ever thinking at

the time that he could be a
serial killer

or anything like that.

And I took you know people's
advice, don't look back,

keep going, move on and
forget about it.

NARRATOR: What Bellwood didn't
know, police already had

Pickton on a list of possible
suspects based on his run-on

with Stitch in 1997.

Information from Bellwood
could have put Pickton

higher on that list.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]: Had that
information come forward

absolutely, that would
be critical at the time.

And we were looking for
anything along that line,

I assure you.

It would give us stronger
grounds to go for that

all-important search warrants
that we required, and ah, and

more of that sort of thing
would have

certainly assisted us.

NARRATOR: Bellwood claims that
Lynn Ellingsen was present

at the beating.

She denies it.

Whatever the truth, the
beating apparently

didn't scare her.

A few days after Andy left,
she went downtown with Willie

to pick up a hooker...

A choice that would have
horrific consequences.

NARRATOR: Willie Pickton was
looking for a prostitute on

the Downtown Eastside.

He'd brought his latest
houseguest along for the ride.

LYNN ELLINGSON: I remember him
stopping and this, this girl

came up and, um, he leaned
over me, and propositioned

her, she looked at me and
she said

"are you going back there?",

and I said "yah, I'm
staying out there".

So she goes "okay well, as
long as

you're gonna be there, I'll go".

She got in the truck.

We had all of our drugs now
and we got some booze,

and we're happy, right?

We're nice and dry and, and
Willie says

"Well, which one first"?

So, they went down to the room
and, um, I went down to my

room, and for some odd reason,
something was telling,

like brought me out of my room.

I didn't hear a word or
anything, so I - I walked

right down to the door and I
opened up the door and there

was nobody in the room, there
was just clothes in the room.

And all I remember was seeing
a light out of the corner of

my eye, there was a light on
in that barn, and that was the

barn where he
butchered his pigs.

LYNN ELLINGSON: So I, um, I
started walking towards the barn

....And, um, I walked
right up to the barn door, and

I pushed the door open, and
that's when I seen the woman -

she was already hanging.

He pulled me inside the,
inside the door behind,

right where the freezer used
to sit, behind the door.

And he made me stand at the
table and tell me that if

I said anything, that I'd
be right beside her.

It was almost like
my whole body froze.

And I just remember,
um, being very scared.

"What am I going to do?"

And the first thing that, that
came out was: "Don't worry,

I won't say a word, like
whatever you do,

I just need money for drugs".

NARRATOR: On the Downtown
Eastside,

more women had vanished.

Brenda Wolfe was one of them.

But it would be another year
before anyone reported

her missing.

If she had gone to the
farm, nobody noticed.

Ellingsen's description of the
woman she and Pickton picked

up seems to best
match Georgina Papin.

Dark hair.

High cheekbones.

She, too, disappeared
in early 1999.

At that time, officers
assigned to the missing

women's case were drowning in
a flood of possible suspects.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]: The list
was growing, I would say

close to around 100 of, of
potential people.

And the amount of, you know,
prostitutes that were being

found to be missing
was growing.

And it became, it
started to mushroom.

NARRATOR: And public
pressure exploded...

Hundreds turned out for a
memorial to

those who'd disappeared.

One unforgettable face in the
crowd - Sereena Abbotsway,

back on the street after being
beaten almost

to death by a bad john.

She was pretty sure she'd
be able to see

the next one coming.

MEDIA: Are you worried some
stranger picking you up?

Like what if there is somebody
going around murdering

all these girls?

Aren't you worried about the
next trick

involved might be him?

SEREENA ABBOTSWAY: Yah, but
I always go on

my 6th sense, yah.

If I don't like the way the
guy is,

then I won't go with him.

NARRATOR: By now, the missing
women were getting a lot of

media coverage.

Even 'America's Most
Wanted' did a story.

The show's host posed
alongside politicians and

police to publicize a reward.

HOST: And if there is a cunning
serial killer in this area

or somebody that
has been able to

abduct women over a period of
time, like the Green River

killer in Seattle, and dispose
of bodies, then this is this

is a way to get
some information.

NARRATOR: Publicly, police
continued to emphasize that

there were no bodies...

no concrete
evidence of murder.

MEDIA: In the Case of these
missing Woman,

we don't have a suspect.

In fact we don't have a crime.

MEDIA: We have no evidence
whatsoever of

any crime being committed.

NARRATOR: But behind the
scenes that very same week,

Vancouver Police were working
with RCMP

on a possible breakthrough.

NARRATOR: In the summer of 99,
Vancouver Police received a

tip from an associate
of Willie Pickton.

An informant who claimed he'd
heard a disturbing story

from Lynn Ellingsen.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]: He's
telling us what

Ellingson had
said.

And basically he's saying that
she said she saw, you know,

stumbled into the barn and saw
something hanging on the, on

the hook and she didn't think
it was a pig and that, you

know, and that Pickton was in
there and he was cutting away

at the, whatever the object
was on the, on the hook.

NARRATOR: But the informant,
Ross Caldwell,

had a credibility problem.

DET. RON LEPINE: The
problem with Ross was is he was

obviously he was an old
time drug addict.

He was, uh, fighting,
struggling with the addiction

and his thought process was
not exactly

in a chronological order.

NARRATOR: Lepine believed
Caldwell was

telling the truth.

But he had to persuade the
informant to make an official

statement at the RCMP
headquarters in Coquitlam-

because Pickton's property
was on their home turf.

NARRATOR: That's when
things went off the rails.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]: He was in
one of his periods of time

where he was literally
higher than a kite.

And we brought him in and
attempted to interview him and

it was an absolute
total disaster.

An embarrassment, because he,
just, he basically

he was all over the map.

He just couldn't concentrate.

NARRATOR: As far as the RCMP
was concerned,

Cauldwell's
credibility was zero.

CPL. FRANK HENLEY:
After watching Ross' interview,

to be perfectly honest, I was
left with a bad feeling that,

that day that he, that he
wasn't telling the truth.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]: So from a
credibility point of view,

you know, he was going
down in flames.

And, ah, so it was not a
highlight of you know,

my career, to see your, your,
witness who you felt, you

know, was being, you know,
helpful, and, uh, suddenly his

credibility's going down.

And you know, everything he
had done was just sort of

going down with it.

NARRATOR: Police
had another problem.

Yet again, they needed an
eyewitness account in order

to get a search warrant.

Their only hope
was Lynn Ellingsen.

She'd moved off the farm, but
Corporal Henley tracked her

down and persuaded her to
come in for an interview.

CPL. FRANK HENLEY: She
immediately recognized the fact

that it was Ross Cauldwell
that had told us this,

and went off on what a
liar he was,

and it wasn't true,
and I don't know

why he's doing this to me and
you know, Lynn was just - she

was not, she was just not
gonna talk to anybody...

and just absolutely vehemently
denied ever, ever, ever having

seen anything like that and
she just point-blank said to

me, you know, "I'm f'in
leaving here, that's it,

I'm done, and we had no
reason to hold her.

We couldn't hold her
there against her will.

She wasn't charged
with anything.

NARRATOR: Ellingsen's
uncooperative behavior got

Henley thinking.

Something she'd said before
the interview took on new

meaning and would
haunt him for years.

CPL. FRANK HENLEY: I was telling
her, "you know, I know you

wouldn't do something like
this Lynn, you're not that

kind of girl, you know, and
such a horrific thing I'm sure

you wouldn't let that happen
to another woman, you know you

would, you would come
forward", and I was describing

the body, you know I'd been to
autopsies and the fact that,

you know, bodies are dissected
is really, you know, it's

really not a pleasant thing to
sit through,

not a pleasant thing to see.

And it, it just sort
of slipped out in the

conversation, and I have to
say at that time it kind of,

it kind of even went over my
head, that she said words to

the effect of that's gross,
it's yellow and it's gross.

... and it wasn't until after
her performance at Coquitlam

detachment and the ride back
to Surrey that it dawned on me

that nobody would know that
human fat is yellow unless

they've seen a body, unless
they've seen

an eviscerated body.

NARRATOR: Henley persuaded
Ellingsen to agree

to a lie detector test.

But on the day it was supposed
to happen, she disappeared.

Years later, she'd admit she
had a strong motive not to

tell police what she knew
about Willie Pickton.

LYNNE ELLINGSON: Well by
having the knowledge of the

barn incident, I did, uh, I
did blackmail

him a couple of times.

I phoned him up, you know
knowing that I was hurting

again for drugs, now my
addiction went

right out of control.

And I'd phoned him up and,
yeah, I blackmailed him.

CPL. FRANK HENLEY: I think it's
safe to say that if Lynn had

have taken that test, if the
polygraphist had have been

able to actually control her
and it was a proper test, and

she was in the proper mindset,
I think the polygraphist would

have been able to tell whether
she was telling the truth or

not about what she saw.

And of course, if that had
happened and she had have had

told the truth at that time of
course it would have changed

the course of history.

But that's hindsight.

Only defense lawyers are
armed with hindsight.

Never the police.

DET. RON LEPINE: It would have
been a totally different game.

I suspect we could have found
the grounds to legally enter

that property and get on the
property and I suspect it

would have, it would
have changed big time.

NARRATOR: And Willie Pickton
would likely have been

arrested 2 years earlier.

During that time, eleven
more women would disappear.

NARRATOR: Pickton was put
under surveillance

- a joint operation between
Vancouver Police and the RCMP.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]:
Surveillance was put on him but

he was what we would classify as
an inactive target.

He wasn't going anywhere.

He wasn't doing anything.

NARRATOR: If Pickton had
picked up a prostitute while

under surveillance, police
would have had

an even bigger problem.

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]: Morally,
there's no way that we could

ever gather evidence by that
way because we would just

simply have to go and we could
not allow ah, a prostitute to

get in the car with him
because, you know, we could

lose him and then, you know,
she's at, her life's at risk,

and morally we could
never allow that.

NARRATOR: On one occasion,
police did spot Pickton with

someone in his truck.

When they pulled him over, it
turned out to be his friend

Gina Houston's
13-year-old daughter.

The surveillance
operation was blown.

NARRATOR: The investigation
into Pickton stalled.

The wider investigation into
other suspects continued.

And more women disappeared.

Then a bizarre turn of events.

Pickton suddenly showed
unannounced up

at RCMP headquarters.

NARRATOR: Police had visited
Willie Pickton's farm on

several occasions, but
whenever they showed up,

Pickton wasn't around.

Then suddenly...

Pickton showed up at the
Coquitlam RCMP station

unannounced...

on his time and his terms,
catching the police

interviewers by surprise.

He brought along a
friend for back up.

Gina Houston had lots of
experience

dealing with police.

GINA HOUSTON: When Willie and
I went to um the RCMP station

for that six and a half hour
interview, they had nothing.

They just had concerns.

They'd been watching Willie.

Obviously they didn't find
enough

to do anything about it.

NARRATOR: According to Gina
Houston, Pickton was a model

of cooperation, just trying to
clear up a misunderstanding.

GINA HOUSTON: He said, "I
want this all to stop."

Anytime, day or night, he
said, "just phone when you're

at the gate so they can stop
the machine

so you don't get hurt".

You can come anytime, day or
night, whenever you want, get

all the DNA samples you want.

Please do I want
this all to stop.

Please come, please do
it, I'd like this to stop.

I'd like it to
all be over with."

NARRATOR: Police did visit
the farm that same week.

Pickton invited them
into his trailer.

But there was nothing
suspicious in plain view.

Another dead end.

And now, other suspects
were making headlines.

Police arrested Barry Thomas
Neidermeyer for assaulting

several prostitutes and
revealed he was also being

investigated in connection
with the missing women.

NARRATOR: Another person of
strong interest was

Robert Yates, an American who
just been arrested for

murdering prostitutes in
Washington State.

REPORTER: Authorities say they
have definite evidence linking

Yates to nine
homicides in all...

DET. RON LEPINE [RET]: You have
to look at the big picture.

You can never just cast a
blind eye to one part of the

investigation and focus only
on one area because that will

come to bite you when you go
into court and they'll always

ask the question, "well, you
said you did this to this

person, did you do the same
thing with that person?

And if the answer starts to
be "no, I only did it to this

guy, those are the only
questions we ever asked this

guy, we never asked that of
anyone else", then you just,

you're putting, you're setting
yourself up for, for disaster.

NARRATOR: On the farm, Willie
now had another frequent

visitor from the
Downtown Eastside.

DINAH TAYLOR: Well I asked him
if I could like rent a place

off him, something like that
and he says "yeah no problem".

So I stayed out there not to
often, off and on cuz you know

at that time I was in the
methadone program so at that

time I was doing heroin and
crack cocaine and

I was always, like,
in places back and forth back

and forth you know.

Willie always sort of didn't
want me to come downtown and

hang out with people that
do drugs he was like really

protective in that way.

Mostly Willie was trying to
help me get off the street and

get off drugs and
be a good person.

NARRATOR: Meanwhile, the
whole investigation

was going nowhere, fast.

Vancouver police admitted they
were no closer to finding most

of the missing women than
they'd been two-and-a-half

years earlier.

VICKI: Frustrating for you
because you're nowhere,

really, with this.

LORI SHENHER: You know,
two-and-a-half years of

working on it and all I'm at -
the place I'm at now is that

now I know just a lot
more places they're not.

But I have- I am no closer to,
like you know people ask

me to speculate-you
can't, I don't know.

NARRATOR: After a year of
virtual paralysis,

Vancouver Police admitted
they needed help.

They called the RCMP.

Finally, an official joint
task force was created.

Codename: Project Evenhanded.

The mandate: an in-depth
review of everything on file.

Thousands of tips and hundreds
of persons of interest.

NARRATOR: In the following
months,

more women disappeared.

ELAINE ALLAN: It's hard to
talk about all the women

I knew that went missing.

I knew 20 women
who went missing.

And it's a, that's
a lot of women.

Um, the climate inside the
centre was like that every

night that there was always
this fear we knew there was

some monster out there, knew
there was some evil dark force

that was at work and the
likelihood of someone going

missing, just not showing up
was so probable that ya, when

I would say goodbye sometimes
to women at the centre I often

just didn't know if I'd
ever see them again.

NARRATOR: Meanwhile, Lynn
Ellingsen's adamant denials

from two years earlier
continued to haunt

Corporal Frank Henley,
even though he was working

in another department.

CPL. FRANK HENLEY: It just still
eating at me that

I had been unsuccessful with
Lynn.

And if you are a cop,
you can't stand it.

You gotta know.

We're just nosy, that's
why we do what we do.

And, and I, I just, I just
needed to know, I needed to go

meet this guy, that, that, you
know, rumour had it, had cut

this woman up his pig farm.

NARRATOR: Even though he was
not assigned to the case,

Henley asked his superiors
if he could pay Pickton

an "unofficial" visit.

CPL. FRANK HENLEY: Drove over
there, drove into the yard.

I said, you know, "I'm looking
for Willie Pickton", and he

said "I'm Willie Pickton",
and I said "well, I'm Frank

Hanley, I'm with the RCMP
homicide unit",

and he didn't flinch,
didn't bother him at all, right?

CPL. FRANK HENLEY: Sort of
worked that into, you know

"how come the police
are interested in you Willie?"

like "what's going on?"

And he actually told me about
this guy and this girl that

had been trying to blackmail
him and told me this sad story

about how he had been so good
to them and helped them out

and done things for them, gave
them a place to stay,

gave them a job when
they had no money.

CPL. FRANK HENLEY: Well, I
suggested to Willie sort of at

the end of our, our little
informal chat that if there

was a problem with the police
that we could arrange for him

to take a polygraph.

And he gave me this stock
answer that, uh, that you

generally you get when you
make that suggestion to, to

certain people that, uh, "yah,
yah, I'll think about that,

maybe, maybe, yah."

And that was it.

So, I mean, it did
not go anywhere.

And I said, "well, you know
thanks Willie, thanks for

talkin' to me", you know, "and
I hope we get this cleared

up", and I extended my hand
and he shook my hand and it

was just - like, I don't know
if it's a man thing, I know

it's not just a cop thing
- I'm sure it's just

a man thing.

It was the wettest, limpest,
grossest thing I've ever felt

from another man in my life,
it just,

it just creeped me out.

CPL. FRANK HENLEY: He's
unobtrusive, he's quiet,

he's polite, you know the way he
lives, he's messy and you know

like all of these things that
the FBI profilers

over the years had, had set out.

And I thought to myself, you
know he fits perfectly the

description of
a serial killer.

NARRATOR: 22-year-old Andrea
Joesbury was making progress

breaking her addiction.

Her pharmacist reported her
missing after she'd missed her

methadone treatment
several days in a row.

PHARMACIST: It kind worried me
so I tried to find out

what happened.

So on the third day I went and
looked for her and, ah,

she's not there.

NARRATOR: Andrea was an
acquaintance of Dinah Taylor,

who was hanging out
at Pickton's place.

Taylor doesn't deny that she
and Joesbury

were at the farm together.

But today, she refuses
to say Andrea's name.

DINAH TAYLOR: I know people
are trying to accuse me for

the person you're talking
about but it ain't true and

I ain't gonna take no rap or
anything I don't know nothing

and I don't want
to know anything.

Like I'm not trying to cover
my ass or Willie's ass, or

anybody's ass I just don't
know nothing and I don't want

to talk about this person or
that person so

subject is now closed.

Thank you.

NARRATOR: Sereena Abbotsway
was a neighborhood character.

When she vanished,
everyone noticed.

Two years earlier, she'd told
police her sixth sense would

keep her out of trouble.

SEREENA ABBOTSWAY: If I don't
like the way the guy is,

then I wont go with him

NARRATOR: Sereena's
disappearance was the latest

chapter in a long story of
heartache for her foster

parents, Dutch immigrants
who'd rescued Sereena when she

was abandoned by
their birth mother.

ANNA DRAAYERS: Sereena and
her siblings were found in

downtown Vancouver, the three
of them in a room, actually

the baby was in another room.

And so they finally opened the
rooms up and found the kids,

like the youngest one sat in
her own feces, the two older

ones, Sereena was the only
one who was walking around.

The brother could not walk at
all because he was tied down

with his legs to the crib.

NARRATOR: Gina Houston claims
that she saw Sereena on

Pickton's farm, hanging
out with Dinah Taylor.

GINA HOUSTON: Sereena came
there to get off drugs and

I walked in the trailer one
day and Serena and her were

shooting up and smoking crack.

And they told Willie that
they weren't doing any drugs.

I went back to the barn to
tell Willie that they were and

he goes, "No they're not."

And I go, "Yeah
they are Willie."

But by the time Willie had
gone in there they'd had it

all cleaned up.

NARRATOR: Sereena Abotsway
is another victim that

Dinah
Taylor refuses to talk about.

DINAH TAYLOR: What you just
said, that didn't even happen.

I never, ever shot up at all.

Like now this is, this thing
is gonna be finished ASP now,

because this happened like
yesterday, I'm not here to

give a confession to anybody,
so this thing is now over.

See ya.... Over.

Over.

It's over.

No I don't wanna talk no more.

NARRATOR: Those who'd hoped
the new police task force

would make a speedy
breakthrough, were in for a

brutal wake-up call.

Project Evenhanded had
made a startling discovery.

At least a dozen more women
were unaccounted for.

Some had been reported missing
long ago, and should have been

on the list much sooner.

The original Vancouver city
police investigation came

under attack as flawed, short
staffed,

and plagued by infighting.

NARRATOR: As the Task Force
grappled with the new

information, two more
women disappeared.

Dianne Rock.

Age 34.

And 26-year-old Mona Wilson.

NARRATOR: The same week Mona
was reported missing,

Gina Houston says she heard
something odd during a phone

conversation with Pickton.

GINA HOUSTON: There what
sounded to be a knock or

something and Willie
said, "Hang on."

And he said hello or come in
or something, there were a

couple of feminine voices
and a masculine voice.

I couldn't say at the trial
that it was two women and one

man because I
wasn't there to see.

But what sounded like two
females and one male.

And Willie had said hang on
for a sec, he was talking a

bit and all of the sudden I
heard Willie say,

"not here no, don't do that."

Um, It sounded like a fight
or something had broken out.

There's, um, you know a bit of
screaming and scuffling, and

Willie's um, still with the
phone saying, um, what's he

saying, "no not here,
stop", or something, um.

Then all of the sudden
the phone went dead.

NARRATOR: Police admitted
they were still swamped with

suspects, including America's
infamous Green River Killer,

who now had a name and a face.

A few days earlier, Gary Leon
Ridgeway had been arrested

near Seattle.

He would eventually plead
guilty to murdering 48 women

in the '80s and '90s.

NARRATOR: Gina Houston says a
few days after her phone chat

with Willie, she went to the
farm, to pick up a pig he'd

butchered for her.

GINA HOUSTON: When I went
down to the farm after the

incident, when I heard the
scuffle on the phone, I walked

into the piggery and just
something was not right.

And I turned around behind me,
and the freezer behind the

door which never has anything
on it, has a blanket over it

with brand new tools laid
out, like just so precise.

In all the time I'd been down
there never, ever has this

ever been.

Especially not no clean towel
or brand new tools, you know

what I mean?

So I started walking over to
the freezer and I went to go

put my hand and something
told me to stop, and I turned

around and I looked at Willie
and there was like a tear in

his eye and he's like, shaking
his head, "don't", you know,

"don't".

NARRATOR: Pickton may have
gotten away with murder for

many more months - even years.

But police were about to get
a tip, setting off a chain of

events that would break
the case wide open.

NARRATOR: At the beginning of
2002, Willie Pickton was just

one of forty top-priority
suspects in the case of the

missing women.

A tip from a former farm
employee was about

to change that.

Like many other Pickton
associates, Scott Chubb's

history was less
than squeaky-clean.

SCOTT CHUBB: I spent almost
ten years of my life in jail.

I did juvi time, provincial
time, federal time.

I have a very colourful past
but and I admit to it 100% but

that's not where my headspace
is at today and,

you know, I'm over it.

NARRATOR: Chubb told police
there were illegal weapons on

Pickton's property, hoping he
might get paid for his tip.

SCOTT CHUBB: I never seen him
actually use the gun on the

property, right?

I mean, I'd seen the guns on
the property and stuff and,

and you know I'd even asked to
use them to shoot em on the

property and never had a
problem -"Yeah go ahead" he

said, you know and didn't have
an issue with it, but I mean

as far as what he would, what
his intentions and what he was

doing with the guns
I wouldn't know.

I wouldn't know.

NARRATOR: Chubb's tip-off was
not related to the missing

women, but his eyewitness
report gave police grounds to

get onto Pickton's property
legally, when he wasn't

expecting them.

This time, they found women's
clothing, ID, syringes and an

asthma inhaler with Sereena
Abotsway's name on it.

NARRATOR: Now they had grounds
to scour the entire farm for

evidence of murder.

LISA YELDS: The last time
I seen Willie he was very

stressed out.

It looked like he
had lost weight.

He looked very, very
tired, very haggard.

And he asked me this question,
he goes, "If I end up in

jail," he says, "will
you come visit me?"

I says, "Willie, you're not
gonna go to jail what could

you have possibly
done to go to jail?"

I think he knew what was going
to happen to him, that he was

in really, really big trouble
and he didn't know what to do.

POLICE OFFICER, MEDIA : The
Missing Women's Joint Task

Force is announcing that
Robert William Pickton age 52

years, of Port Coquitlam, was
charged today with two counts

of first-degree murder.

STAFF SGT. DOUG MACKAY-DUNN
[RET]: When I heard that Pickton

was arrested and they
were setting up a crime scene,

I was asked about this.

I said it's going to be one
of the most horrendous crime

scenes ever investigated, the
individuals involved in that

investigation are going to
have nightmares

till the day they die.

Nobody is ever gonna
be the same again.

MEDIA : ... a police search of
Pickton's farm revealed body

parts severed heads and hands.

It sparked the largest
investigation

in Canadian history.

ANNA DRAAYERS: As much as
we've been told she was found

in a bucket in the freezer.

They found her head, two
hands, and two feet.

The rest was not there.

NARRATOR: In the same freezer
as Sereena Abotsway's remains

were those of Andrea Joesbury.

On other parts of Pickton's
property, investigators found

bones and teeth matching Mona
Wilson, Brenda Wolfe, Georgina

Papin and Marnie Frey, along
with DNA and belongings linked

to more than two
dozen other women.

"STITCH": When I found out
he was finally arrested,

I happened to be up in a hotel
room with a

girlfriend of mine.

And, um, we just happened to
see it on TV, and it was like

my heart stopped and I just
looked at the TV and I said to

her "lookit, there's
that trailer I was at."

It was a whole new feeling
from what he had done to me to

find out he was the guy
killing all these girls.

MEDIA : It is becoming
depressingly familiar - names

of the latest women who police
say were murdered

by Robert Pickton.

MEDIA : Heather Gabriel
Chinook, Inga Monique Hall,

Tanya Marlow Holyk and
Sherry Lee Irving...

REPORTER: With today's four
new charges, an unhappy

historical moment for Canada

POLICE SPOKESWOMAN: This case
is now the largest

serial killer investigation
in Canadian history.

CONST. DAVE DICKSON [RET]: I
didn't feel very

good at all, actually.

You know, probably the one
time in my career that I had

to go talk to somebody.

You know, because I had some
difficulty with it, cuz when

I, I guess I finally realized
what was happening, you know,

it wasn't a good
feeling at all.

And only because I'd
gotten close to the women.

You know, so I didn't
feel good about it.

I guess I felt good because,
you know, they'd found the

person responsible, you know,
but it wasn't a good feeling.

NARRATOR: Police arrested
three people who'd spent time

at the farm, but none of
them were ever charged in

connection with
the missing women.

DINAH
TAYLOR: See ya. Over. Over.

NARRATOR: Dinah Taylor.

DINAH TAYLOR: It's over.

NARRATOR: A farm employee, Pat
Casanova, who'd helped Pickton

butcher pigs and admitted
to using prostitutes

on the property.

And Lynn Ellingsen.

After she was arrested, she
finally decided

to tell the truth.

She had seen a body
hanging in the barn.

Now, she became the
prosecution's star witness.

NARRATOR: Pickton was charged
with 26 murders in all.

The judge believed a jury
would be confused by more than

2 dozen charges.

So he split the case
into two separate trials.

NARRATOR: The jury found
Pickton guilty in the first

6 murders, but with a twist
that stunned investigators.

MEDIA : For the death
of Serena Abbotsway,

Robert Pickton is guilty of
second degree murder.

Mona Wilson, second degree
murder, Andrea Joesbury....

the jury found Pickton guilty
of second degree murder,

not first, because it wasn't
convinced he planned

the murders.

NARRATOR: Second degree
murder for Pickton.

Twenty more charges still on
the books and nobody else on

trial, a disappointing result
for many of

the victim's families.

ELAINE ALLAN: Do I
think he acted alone?

I think he acted alone most of
the time but I don't think he

acted alone all of the time.

ANDY BELLWOOD: I feel that
Willie recruited people

in helping him.

I think that Willie acted on
some of the killings alone and

I think he acted on some
of the killings

with other people.

I feel there's other people
involved, I think there's a

lot of evidence pointing
towards other people involved.

LISA YELDS: Willie needs to go
to jail for what

Willie did wrong.

So if he's guilty of X number
of murders, or disposal of

bodies, he needs to
go to jail for that.

But if there's other people
involved,

they
need to go to jail for that.

Not Willie Pickton.