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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:22,939 --> 00:00:24,359 [man sighs] 2 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:26,361 -[woman] Raise your right hand, please. -Yes. 3 00:00:26,443 --> 00:00:28,493 [woman] Do you swear your testimony will be the truth, 4 00:00:28,570 --> 00:00:30,610 whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God? 5 00:00:30,697 --> 00:00:32,117 -Yes, I do. -[woman] Thank you. 6 00:00:33,783 --> 00:00:38,203 This is Jeffrey Epstein in his first deposition in my case. 7 00:00:38,955 --> 00:00:41,825 I represented the original girl that was brought to police 8 00:00:41,916 --> 00:00:44,626 and gave her story that started this investigation. 9 00:00:47,839 --> 00:00:50,089 [lawyer] Is it true, sir, that, um... 10 00:00:51,634 --> 00:00:54,974 you have what's been described as an egg-shaped penis? 11 00:00:57,265 --> 00:00:59,265 [lawyer] I had hired psychologists 12 00:00:59,350 --> 00:01:02,190 to do a psychological profile on Jeffrey Epstein. 13 00:01:02,771 --> 00:01:04,401 What type of person he was 14 00:01:04,481 --> 00:01:06,981 and what would actually get under his skin. 15 00:01:08,026 --> 00:01:12,356 What made him tick was that he was a narcissist. 16 00:01:13,281 --> 00:01:17,081 He had no ability to feel empathy... 17 00:01:18,578 --> 00:01:20,868 and saw himself as  the "Master of Puppets," so to speak. 18 00:01:22,665 --> 00:01:26,915 [lawyer] Sir, one witness described your penis as oval-shaped 19 00:01:27,337 --> 00:01:30,127 and claimed, when erect, it was thick towards the bottom 20 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:31,630 but was thin and small 21 00:01:31,716 --> 00:01:33,796 -towards the head portion... -[Epstein's lawyer] Sorry. 22 00:01:33,885 --> 00:01:36,005 [lawyer] ...and called it egg-shaped. Those are not my words. 23 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:37,306 I apologize, but as-- 24 00:01:37,388 --> 00:01:38,968 [Epstein's lawyer]  This meeting is now adjourned. 25 00:01:39,057 --> 00:01:41,307 [lawyer] As Mr. Kreighton has stated that this is a-- 26 00:01:41,392 --> 00:01:43,902 -[indistinct dialogue] -[Epstein's lawyer] All right. 27 00:01:43,978 --> 00:01:45,728 [lawyer] I'm willing to continue. 28 00:01:45,814 --> 00:01:47,864 [indistinct dialogue] 29 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:52,321 [lawyer] He tries at all times to be the master of his domain... 30 00:01:53,655 --> 00:01:55,315 and in control of his world. 31 00:01:58,660 --> 00:02:01,290 As soon as he feels he's out of control... 32 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:04,750 it's unsettling to him. 33 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:58,215 [suspenseful music] 34 00:03:04,058 --> 00:03:07,018 [Michael Reiter] When we first turned the case over to the FBI, 35 00:03:07,729 --> 00:03:10,149 they identified additional victims, 36 00:03:10,231 --> 00:03:12,861 and early on, we in the Palm Beach Police Department 37 00:03:12,942 --> 00:03:14,362 helped them doing that. 38 00:03:16,863 --> 00:03:20,243 But after nearly two years... 39 00:03:20,909 --> 00:03:25,329 there was very little information flowing from the federal side back to us. 40 00:03:26,456 --> 00:03:28,996 In fact, they reminded us on several occasions 41 00:03:29,083 --> 00:03:31,383 that this was not a cooperative investigation. 42 00:03:31,461 --> 00:03:32,961 It was their investigation. 43 00:03:39,385 --> 00:03:41,795 [lawyer] All of a sudden, I had gotten a tip 44 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:44,558 that Jeffrey Epstein was gonna be there at the courthouse, 45 00:03:44,641 --> 00:03:45,681 but we didn't know why. 46 00:03:47,185 --> 00:03:48,385 As I'm going through security, 47 00:03:48,478 --> 00:03:52,188 he was actually going through security with his lawyers at the same time. 48 00:03:52,273 --> 00:03:55,193 And they were kind of rushing him through security to get upstairs. 49 00:03:56,486 --> 00:03:57,526 The courtroom was packed, 50 00:03:58,238 --> 00:04:00,778 and obviously, at that point, I started realizing 51 00:04:00,865 --> 00:04:02,405 that something was happening here 52 00:04:02,492 --> 00:04:04,412 that was bigger than just a routine hearing. 53 00:04:05,995 --> 00:04:07,655 [Musgrave] It was a very hush-hush hearing. 54 00:04:07,747 --> 00:04:11,167 It was scheduled at the last minute despite all the time that had elapsed. 55 00:04:12,377 --> 00:04:15,047 [Spencer Kuvin] There was a point where Mr. Epstein's lawyers 56 00:04:15,129 --> 00:04:18,219 then took a sidebar and went up and talked to the judge about something 57 00:04:18,299 --> 00:04:20,049 that the rest of the courtroom couldn't hear. 58 00:04:20,843 --> 00:04:23,853 He was ushered over to the bailiff where he was fingerprinted 59 00:04:24,097 --> 00:04:27,427 and a DNA swab was done, and he was then taken out of the room. 60 00:04:28,226 --> 00:04:32,976 Somehow, his lawyers had worked out a deal with the US Attorney's office. 61 00:04:33,398 --> 00:04:34,858 I mean, the whole thing was shocking. 62 00:04:36,317 --> 00:04:38,567 [Reiter] No one told us in the Palm Beach Police Department 63 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:39,993 that any of this was happening. 64 00:04:40,071 --> 00:04:45,081 Our lobby was full of the news media because they knew about it before we did. 65 00:04:45,493 --> 00:04:48,373 Two years now after his arrest for soliciting prostitutes, 66 00:04:48,454 --> 00:04:51,584 Palm Beach billionaire Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty today. 67 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:54,626 [female reporter] The guilty plea and deal end a year's long process 68 00:04:54,711 --> 00:04:57,461 that could have sent Epstein to jail for 15 years. 69 00:04:57,547 --> 00:05:01,377 He agreed to serve a total of 18 months in the Palm Beach Detention Facility. 70 00:05:02,927 --> 00:05:04,217 [Brad Edwards] It was outrageous. 71 00:05:04,512 --> 00:05:06,262 That's when we learned for the first time 72 00:05:06,347 --> 00:05:10,597 there's not a deal about to happen. A deal actually already happened. 73 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:15,435 It's already done. The case is over, and my clients are going, 74 00:05:15,523 --> 00:05:18,533 "How is the case over when it hasn't started? 75 00:05:18,609 --> 00:05:20,399 This doesn't make any sense to me." 76 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:22,240 I told them, "None of... 77 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:25,372 What doesn't make sense to you right now also doesn't make sense to me." 78 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:31,331 Alex Acosta, the acting US Attorney, should at least have to explain. 79 00:05:31,414 --> 00:05:33,584 Why did you do what you did? 80 00:05:33,666 --> 00:05:37,246 And give us the real story, whatever it is. Just tell us why. 81 00:05:37,337 --> 00:05:39,877 Give me some explanation for why this fucking happened. 82 00:05:54,854 --> 00:05:57,114 [male reporter] News Channel 5's Dori Robau is live today 83 00:05:57,190 --> 00:05:59,030 at the Palm Beach Police Department. 84 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,860 When the police chief here heard 85 00:06:00,943 --> 00:06:03,453 that Epstein would be charged with solicitation of prostitution, 86 00:06:03,529 --> 00:06:06,569 he thought that the charges ought to be much more serious, 87 00:06:06,657 --> 00:06:09,537 and Palm Beach police chief Michael Reiter believed a strong case 88 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:12,119 had been made that Epstein had sex with children. 89 00:06:13,414 --> 00:06:16,884 It's the only case I was involved in,  in my entire career,  90 00:06:17,293 --> 00:06:21,553 that I felt as though I really could not protect the victims. 91 00:06:28,137 --> 00:06:31,467 [man] I've been working together with Brad Edwards 92 00:06:31,557 --> 00:06:35,397 on Epstein civil cases for over a decade. 93 00:06:35,895 --> 00:06:41,315 Jeffrey Epstein was given immunity from any other state charges, 94 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:44,201 and immunity from all federal charges, 95 00:06:44,278 --> 00:06:50,868 both for himself and for any of his named and unnamed co-conspirators. 96 00:06:51,536 --> 00:06:54,156 It is inexplicable to me 97 00:06:54,622 --> 00:07:01,252 that any prosecutor could ever have entered into this kind of plea deal. 98 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:03,923 In 45 years of practice, 99 00:07:04,006 --> 00:07:07,886 I have never heard of anyone ever entering into a plea agreement 100 00:07:08,177 --> 00:07:11,217 that not only granted immunity 101 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:14,429 to the target of an investigation, 102 00:07:15,143 --> 00:07:15,983 but... 103 00:07:16,602 --> 00:07:20,522 handed out "get-out-of-jail-free" cards 104 00:07:21,107 --> 00:07:24,487 to everyone of that person's co-conspirators, 105 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:27,493 named and unnamed. 106 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:34,829 [Edwards] All unknown co-conspirators somehow also got immunity. 107 00:07:40,042 --> 00:07:42,552 There was no way that anybody could look at this 108 00:07:42,628 --> 00:07:44,378 and think this was okay. 109 00:07:49,427 --> 00:07:50,967 [Alan Dershowitz] The outcome of this case, 110 00:07:51,053 --> 00:07:52,813 whether people agree or disagree with it, 111 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:55,929 doesn't require a conspiracy 112 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:59,397 between government officials and wealthy people. 113 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:04,649 Everything that we negotiated for had to be approved by Acosta, 114 00:08:05,234 --> 00:08:06,994 by the Assistant Attorney General 115 00:08:07,069 --> 00:08:09,569 in charge of the Criminal Division in Washington, 116 00:08:09,655 --> 00:08:12,525 by the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, 117 00:08:12,617 --> 00:08:14,907 ultimately by the Attorney General of the United States. 118 00:08:14,994 --> 00:08:16,504 This went through various levels. 119 00:08:20,416 --> 00:08:22,286 It was a very tough negotiation. 120 00:08:22,376 --> 00:08:26,086 Acosta mostly sat at the end of the table and asked hard questions. 121 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:29,382 The issue was whether or not the federal government could make a case 122 00:08:29,467 --> 00:08:33,097 based on the evidence they had of the commission of a federal crime, 123 00:08:33,387 --> 00:08:36,887 and my job was to try to persuade them they could not make that case. 124 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,310 [Kuvin] Jeffrey Epstein and his team was just this huge train 125 00:08:41,395 --> 00:08:43,555 of money, power, and influence 126 00:08:43,648 --> 00:08:46,648 that was just barreling down on the State's Attorney's office, 127 00:08:46,734 --> 00:08:48,034 the US Attorney's office, 128 00:08:48,110 --> 00:08:50,950 just trying to get their way and eventually getting their way. 129 00:08:52,657 --> 00:08:55,737 [Dershowitz] In the end, they decided that they'd be better off 130 00:08:55,826 --> 00:08:59,286 getting a bird in the hand versus two in the bush, 131 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:05,379 and they agreed to have him plead guilty to State charges, get a sentence, 132 00:09:05,461 --> 00:09:09,631 and then make massive compensation to the alleged victims. 133 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:12,219 I can tell you one interesting thing: at the end, 134 00:09:12,301 --> 00:09:14,641 Jeffrey Epstein didn't think we made a very good deal. 135 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,720 He was pretty upset with us. He thought he could have done better. 136 00:09:23,104 --> 00:09:25,614 Hi, uh... Jeffrey. It's George Rush. 137 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:27,400 -[Epstein] George, how are you? -[Rush] Good. 138 00:09:34,532 --> 00:09:37,082 [Rush] Do you want to say anything just about the way 139 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:43,039 your agreement has been characterized as a secret, back-room sweetheart deal 140 00:09:43,124 --> 00:09:46,964 that somehow, through the political connections of your lawyers, 141 00:09:47,044 --> 00:09:48,384 they obtained it. 142 00:09:48,713 --> 00:09:51,093 [Epstein] George, it's total bullshit. 143 00:09:52,049 --> 00:09:55,759 On closer examination, you'll find my penalty was harsher, 144 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:59,715 not less, harsher than anyone else who's ever been charged 145 00:09:59,807 --> 00:10:01,847 -with solicitation of prostitution. -[Rush] Mm-hmm. 146 00:10:01,934 --> 00:10:05,614 [Epstein] No girl ever came to my house. First of all, I never left my house. 147 00:10:06,147 --> 00:10:09,357 So any girl who came to my house was coming to my house to get money, 148 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:10,282 to earn money. 149 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:12,240 New York, by the way, 150 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,450 you should understand, for the same charge, 151 00:10:15,239 --> 00:10:17,779 -it... it's a $100 fine. -[Rush] Mm-hmm. 152 00:10:17,867 --> 00:10:20,237 [Epstein] That's the charge in New York for this behavior. 153 00:10:20,328 --> 00:10:21,948 -Now so.. It's two charges. -[Rush] Yes. 154 00:10:22,038 --> 00:10:25,878 [Epstein] So we're clear, one charge was solicitation of prostitution. 155 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:28,286 That's nothing to do with minors. 156 00:10:29,211 --> 00:10:31,091 Simply solicitation of prostitution. 157 00:10:31,797 --> 00:10:35,757 The other charge that related to a minor was procuring a minor... 158 00:10:36,927 --> 00:10:38,927 for engaging in prostitution. 159 00:10:39,597 --> 00:10:42,557 So that was the only two and none of those... None... 160 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:44,852 Neither one of the charges nor any allegation 161 00:10:44,935 --> 00:10:48,975 of alleged sexual intercourse at any time or any type. 162 00:10:49,065 --> 00:10:51,815 The state charge is simply a procurement charge. 163 00:10:51,901 --> 00:10:55,241 It has nothing to do with sex. It's a procurement for prostitution. 164 00:10:55,363 --> 00:10:56,283 [Rush] Well, what-- 165 00:10:56,364 --> 00:10:58,574 [Epstein] If you look, even up until six months ago, 166 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:01,788 soliciting a 16-year-old prostitute was a Class D misdemeanor, 167 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:04,751 which was a fine of $100, similar to jay-walking. 168 00:11:07,708 --> 00:11:10,338 They labeled us as underage prostitutes 169 00:11:10,419 --> 00:11:14,169 and it's embarrassing to be identified as that. 170 00:11:14,256 --> 00:11:16,966 It's embarrassing. It's hurtful. It's all kinds of things. 171 00:11:17,051 --> 00:11:18,801 These girls were not prostitutes. 172 00:11:18,886 --> 00:11:22,426 These girls were middle school and high school kids... Children. 173 00:11:24,225 --> 00:11:29,765 The victims are left beaten and destroyed and with no answers. 174 00:11:31,148 --> 00:11:34,358 [Michelle Licata] I was shocked when I read that there was a plea deal. 175 00:11:35,403 --> 00:11:38,703 I didn't know you could make a deal with the government 176 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:42,115 and, you know, get a lesser sentence 177 00:11:42,201 --> 00:11:45,541 just based upon how much power and money you have. 178 00:11:47,289 --> 00:11:48,869 [Courtney Wild] Justice wasn't served. 179 00:11:49,458 --> 00:11:50,998 Everybody looked the other way. 180 00:11:51,502 --> 00:11:54,302 And we find out that what the government did was 181 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:57,340 they kept the victims in the dark so we didn't have our day in court. 182 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,510 So, yeah, I was sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein, 183 00:12:01,595 --> 00:12:04,135 but I was re-victimized by the same government 184 00:12:04,223 --> 00:12:05,813 that's supposed to protect us. 185 00:12:06,183 --> 00:12:07,943 They muted our voices, 186 00:12:08,018 --> 00:12:10,898 so I was... Yeah, I was angry. I'm still very angry. 187 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:15,358 [Shawna Rivera] I think that this is common for people like Jeff. 188 00:12:15,443 --> 00:12:17,863 I think that they often don't have to... 189 00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:21,991 face the consequences for their actions. 190 00:12:24,076 --> 00:12:27,076 I just wanted Jeff to be prosecuted. 191 00:12:27,163 --> 00:12:32,173 I wanted him to, like, not be able to dig his way out of it with money. 192 00:12:33,711 --> 00:12:36,961 And then I found out that this deal was made 193 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:39,795 where the records were sealed and, like, 194 00:12:39,884 --> 00:12:45,774 my ability to do anything criminally against him was... was gone. 195 00:12:46,223 --> 00:12:47,733 I was really upset about it. 196 00:12:47,808 --> 00:12:52,648 I was mad about it and I didn't... know where to go from there. 197 00:12:55,733 --> 00:12:58,533 [Edwards] Almost immediately after the non-prosecution agreement 198 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:01,201 was secretly signed between Jeffrey Epstein and the government, 199 00:13:01,655 --> 00:13:04,275 I tell all of my clients I have to fight this. 200 00:13:04,366 --> 00:13:06,116 And the best thing that I can do is 201 00:13:06,202 --> 00:13:09,212 to enforce your rights under the Crime Victims Rights Act, 202 00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:13,212 which ensures that victims,  in criminal cases, 203 00:13:13,709 --> 00:13:16,879 um... have certain basic rights, which include the right 204 00:13:16,962 --> 00:13:21,262 to confer with the prosecutor on the case before there's a resolution of the case. 205 00:13:21,342 --> 00:13:23,682 We had to file a lawsuit. 206 00:13:24,678 --> 00:13:29,268 [Jack Scarola] If a court says these victims were entitled to be heard, 207 00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:35,020 there may be a new hearing in front of a federal judge 208 00:13:35,272 --> 00:13:41,402 where these victims have a right to express their opposition to this deal, 209 00:13:42,071 --> 00:13:43,661 and a judge could decide, 210 00:13:43,948 --> 00:13:47,788 Jeffrey Epstein, you did enter into a contract 211 00:13:47,868 --> 00:13:49,618 that was illegal from the outset. 212 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:51,664 It is going to be voided. 213 00:13:51,747 --> 00:13:55,747 You have no immunity. The federal government has the right... 214 00:13:56,877 --> 00:13:58,127 to prosecute you 215 00:13:58,212 --> 00:14:01,052 and the right to prosecute your co-conspirators. 216 00:14:01,507 --> 00:14:03,217 One of the next things that we did was 217 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:05,970 we requested all of the email correspondence 218 00:14:06,053 --> 00:14:08,723 between the US Attorney's office and Jeffrey Epstein 219 00:14:08,973 --> 00:14:10,603 to support our allegation 220 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:13,273 that there was this concerted effort 221 00:14:13,894 --> 00:14:14,774 to... 222 00:14:15,563 --> 00:14:18,023 arrive at a secret deal 223 00:14:18,482 --> 00:14:20,442 without the victims knowing. 224 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:23,736 There were so many unusual occurrences 225 00:14:23,821 --> 00:14:27,161 that went on in connection with the negotiation 226 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:29,741 of this non-prosecution agreement. 227 00:14:29,827 --> 00:14:34,037 There were hundreds of email communications 228 00:14:34,123 --> 00:14:35,713 that got exchanged. 229 00:14:37,167 --> 00:14:38,997 [Mike Fisten] We found out Marie Villafaña 230 00:14:39,086 --> 00:14:42,166 was sending emails back and forth to Jeffrey's lawyers 231 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:44,586 asking them if they wanted to make any changes. 232 00:14:46,552 --> 00:14:49,932 I mean, at one point in her emails, she's telling Jeffrey's lawyers, 233 00:14:50,472 --> 00:14:55,482 "Don't email me at the office anymore. Here's my Gmail. Email me at my Gmail." 234 00:14:57,688 --> 00:15:02,688 [Scarola] Mr. Acosta holds some meetings outside the US Attorney's office, 235 00:15:02,776 --> 00:15:05,356 outside lawyers' offices... 236 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,160 in a room at the Marriott hotel 237 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,540 that were clearly intended to preserve the secrecy of the negotiations 238 00:15:12,620 --> 00:15:13,750 that were going on. 239 00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:17,830 If any of the victims knew  what was going on in this conspiracy 240 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,667 between Jeffrey Epstein and the government, 241 00:15:19,752 --> 00:15:21,342 they could have blown the whole thing up. 242 00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:31,426 Before the plea deal, I think the focus was really on Florida. 243 00:15:31,513 --> 00:15:33,523 They didn't really realize it expanded 244 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:38,649 with victims being trafficked, and traveled, and lent out 245 00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:40,769 around the country and around the world. 246 00:15:43,275 --> 00:15:46,985 [Edwards] I'm reading from the complaint filed by Virginia Roberts against you. 247 00:15:47,071 --> 00:15:50,991 Isn't it true, sir, that a friend of yours sent you 248 00:15:51,075 --> 00:15:53,535 three 12-year-old... 249 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:59,750 females for you to sexually abuse on one of your birthdays? 250 00:15:59,833 --> 00:16:02,503 [Epstein's lawyer] Form argumentative, harassing, 251 00:16:03,003 --> 00:16:04,763 -and irrelevant to this lawsuit. -Excuse me, 252 00:16:04,838 --> 00:16:07,218 but could you... You're saying that's part of the lawsuit? 253 00:16:07,299 --> 00:16:08,929 [Edwards] Yeah, I'll read it directly. 254 00:16:11,845 --> 00:16:13,595 [Giuffre] It was Jeffrey's birthday one year. 255 00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:15,431 I don't remember what year it was, 256 00:16:15,933 --> 00:16:19,523 but I would say it's a good year into our... you know... 257 00:16:20,396 --> 00:16:22,766 ...our relationship, our knowing each other, 258 00:16:23,524 --> 00:16:27,494 and he was laughing about the fact that 259 00:16:28,362 --> 00:16:31,202 his friend sent him three 12-year-old girls 260 00:16:31,281 --> 00:16:33,371 that he had purchased from their parents. 261 00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:39,003 [Edwards] "On one of defendant Epstein's birthdays, 262 00:16:39,289 --> 00:16:41,579 a friend of defendant Epstein 263 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:48,552 sent him three 12-year-old girls from France, who spoke no English, 264 00:16:48,632 --> 00:16:52,052 for the defendant to sexually exploit and abuse. 265 00:16:52,136 --> 00:16:55,386 After doing so, they were sent back to France the next day." 266 00:16:55,931 --> 00:16:58,061 -Isn't that true? -[Epstein's lawyer] Once again, 267 00:16:58,142 --> 00:17:02,152 I'm going to move to strike. Irrelevant, argumentative, harassing. 268 00:17:02,229 --> 00:17:03,439 [Edwards] All right. 269 00:17:04,648 --> 00:17:07,688 I would like to answer that question. I really would. 270 00:17:07,776 --> 00:17:11,656 However, today my attorneys have told me I have to assert my Fifth Amendment, 271 00:17:11,739 --> 00:17:14,119 Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights 272 00:17:14,199 --> 00:17:15,329 under the US Constitution. 273 00:17:15,659 --> 00:17:17,949 [Edwards] You're invoking your Fifth Amendment rights 274 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:19,407 to each of these questions 275 00:17:19,496 --> 00:17:22,786 because you know  that your answers will incriminate you 276 00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:27,045 and you feel... uh, that it will result in you being prosecuted for these crimes, 277 00:17:27,129 --> 00:17:28,009 isn't that right? 278 00:17:28,088 --> 00:17:30,668 [Epstein's lawyer] Objection. Argumentative, harassing, 279 00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:33,425 and calls for a legal conclusion. 280 00:17:34,803 --> 00:17:35,643 [man] Answer. 281 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:37,891 No, in fact the Supreme Court recently said 282 00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:41,273 that the Fifth Amendment right is there to protect the innocent, 283 00:17:41,852 --> 00:17:44,272 so that's why I'd like to answer that. 284 00:17:47,608 --> 00:17:51,738 [church bell ringing] 285 00:17:52,404 --> 00:17:55,534 [ringing continues] 286 00:17:58,368 --> 00:18:01,158 [woman] I love it here in Spain because it's so far away... 287 00:18:02,956 --> 00:18:05,456 that Jeffrey Epstein could never find me here. 288 00:18:08,629 --> 00:18:10,259 My name is Sarah Ransome. 289 00:18:10,547 --> 00:18:11,837 In 2006, 290 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:14,344 I was sexually trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. 291 00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:23,234 I'd just turned 22 when I decided to go to New York. 292 00:18:23,977 --> 00:18:27,267 New York's where everyone's dreams come true. 293 00:18:27,898 --> 00:18:30,028 I packed my bags, really excited, 294 00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:33,744 and I landed in New York on the first of September. 295 00:18:35,447 --> 00:18:38,527 However, I didn't know anyone. I didn't have that much money. 296 00:18:39,576 --> 00:18:44,666 I was there for about two weeks, and one night I went to a club called Quo, 297 00:18:45,207 --> 00:18:47,457 and I met this girl, Natalya Malyshev. 298 00:18:47,835 --> 00:18:52,165 She immediately befriended me. She became like my instant best friend. 299 00:18:52,256 --> 00:18:56,296 She said that she knew this amazing guy. He was a philanthropist. 300 00:18:56,385 --> 00:19:00,385 This guy genuinely is a really kind guy, 301 00:19:00,472 --> 00:19:04,562 and, you know, whatever my dream is, he can make it come true. 302 00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:10,694 Natalya said, "This guy would really like to meet you. 303 00:19:10,899 --> 00:19:12,319 We're going to the cinema." 304 00:19:13,694 --> 00:19:15,494 It was Jeffrey, of course. 305 00:19:18,115 --> 00:19:20,525 He was charming, charismatic, 306 00:19:21,076 --> 00:19:23,116 friendly, um, caring, 307 00:19:23,203 --> 00:19:25,623 where he actually listened to me. 308 00:19:27,082 --> 00:19:28,422 And then I get a call, like, 309 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:31,460 I think it was the next day or like two days after, 310 00:19:31,545 --> 00:19:33,545 and it was Natalya going, 311 00:19:34,047 --> 00:19:35,337 "You'll never believe it. 312 00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:37,296 Jeffrey really thought you were cool." 313 00:19:38,802 --> 00:19:42,352 This guy wants to help me out, pay for my education. 314 00:19:42,431 --> 00:19:46,021 He was going to get me into the Fashion Institute of Technology. 315 00:19:47,769 --> 00:19:49,809 Natalya said, "And he's got this private island, 316 00:19:49,897 --> 00:19:53,897 and we're going on his private plane, and it's amazing. 317 00:19:53,984 --> 00:19:56,364 It's like a tropical paradise and..." 318 00:19:56,445 --> 00:19:59,485 I'm, like, down for going to a private island on a private plane. 319 00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:07,793 It was on that first plane journey that something peculiar happened. 320 00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:16,335 Jeffrey started having hardcore sex in front of everybody with another girl. 321 00:20:17,424 --> 00:20:20,844 And everyone else was sort of pretending to be asleep and ignoring it, 322 00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:24,138 and I just found it really odd that no one wa... 323 00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:25,893 no one was saying or reacting... 324 00:20:25,974 --> 00:20:29,104 So I just pretended to sort of nod off. I didn't know where to look. 325 00:20:29,186 --> 00:20:34,016 It was traumatizing. It's still a very vivid memory for me, 326 00:20:34,608 --> 00:20:36,068 and I should have known then. 327 00:20:36,151 --> 00:20:38,701 I should have trusted my instincts, but I... 328 00:20:39,988 --> 00:20:40,818 I didn't. 329 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:49,210 [seabirds squawking] 330 00:20:53,877 --> 00:20:57,297 [Gordon Ackley] The island is, uh, approximately 75 acres. 331 00:20:58,966 --> 00:21:01,546 From St. Thomas, it's about a ten-minute ride 332 00:21:01,635 --> 00:21:04,595 by passenger boat out to the island. 333 00:21:05,555 --> 00:21:08,475 This is Mr. Epstein's, uh, principal residence, 334 00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:11,187 which is the island of Little Saint James. 335 00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:18,111 Mr. Epstein built little cabanas and beach houses all across the island. 336 00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:21,028 The blue roof... 337 00:21:22,155 --> 00:21:27,115 that is closest to the water was Mr. Epstein's personal residence. 338 00:21:27,661 --> 00:21:31,461 And the main house and the guest house, that's where the guests would stay. 339 00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:36,296 He is not representative of the people of the Virgin Islands, 340 00:21:36,378 --> 00:21:37,378 I can tell you that. 341 00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:40,965 But being on an island by yourself, 342 00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:43,965 I guess he felt he could do whatever he wanted. 343 00:21:48,765 --> 00:21:52,305 [Giuffre] The island, that was one of Jeffrey's favorite places to go 344 00:21:52,394 --> 00:21:53,904 because it was so isolated. 345 00:21:55,063 --> 00:21:57,023 There's no doubt that it was beautiful. 346 00:21:57,441 --> 00:21:58,531 It has a nickname, 347 00:21:59,026 --> 00:22:00,436 the Pedophile Island, 348 00:22:00,944 --> 00:22:03,164 but that wasn't the nickname Jeffrey gave it. 349 00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:05,530 It was Little Saint Jeff's. 350 00:22:06,283 --> 00:22:07,533 That was his nickname for it. 351 00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:12,792 But it really is Orgy Island, because that's what happened there. 352 00:22:13,206 --> 00:22:15,496 That was what that island meant to me. 353 00:22:21,506 --> 00:22:24,006 I started working on the island in 1999 354 00:22:24,384 --> 00:22:29,644 and worked until either the end of 2005 or the start of 2006. 355 00:22:30,432 --> 00:22:33,812 I was there for maintenance on Jeffrey Epstein's telecommunications 356 00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:35,274 and data equipment. 357 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:38,652 He wanted a private cellular network. 358 00:22:40,192 --> 00:22:42,692 Privacy was very important to Jeffrey Epstein. 359 00:22:43,487 --> 00:22:45,697 I was on the island probably a hundred times. 360 00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:49,411 I was ultimately in every... [chuckling] single building 361 00:22:49,493 --> 00:22:51,753 that existed on the island at that time. 362 00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:56,788 And I would say every other month I would see guests on the island, 363 00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:59,795 and the guests almost always included young girls. 364 00:23:01,421 --> 00:23:04,881 One time I went to the Grotto, the little beach, 365 00:23:04,966 --> 00:23:06,216 as it was coined, 366 00:23:06,635 --> 00:23:08,425 and when I walked down 367 00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:12,522 there was a gentleman who was not Jeffrey and three girls. 368 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,640 The three girls were topless. 369 00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:15,806 Um... 370 00:23:15,894 --> 00:23:20,024 The gentleman was, uh... nude. 371 00:23:20,857 --> 00:23:22,067 I left immediately. 372 00:23:23,944 --> 00:23:26,744 Sometimes there were other people on the island 373 00:23:27,114 --> 00:23:28,494 that were important people. 374 00:23:29,783 --> 00:23:31,793 I saw Alan Dershowitz on the island. 375 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,410 It was more of a business meeting. 376 00:23:34,496 --> 00:23:38,126 Another time, I saw Bill Clinton sitting with Jeffrey 377 00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:40,458 on the living room porch area, 378 00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:42,627 which was Jeffrey's favorite spot. 379 00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:46,295 I saw no other guests there at that time at all. 380 00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:50,723 I just said, "Hey, you know, wow... Jeffrey's sitting with Bill Clinton." 381 00:23:51,972 --> 00:23:53,852 [Giuffre] Not all the men took part. 382 00:23:54,641 --> 00:23:56,941 I have, you know, seen people on the island 383 00:23:57,018 --> 00:24:00,518 that came for a lunch or a dinner, and they didn't stay very long. 384 00:24:02,482 --> 00:24:05,692 [Steve Scully] Jeffrey hung out with a lot of powerful and well-known figures, 385 00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:10,281 both politically and financially, and I mean... 386 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,030 British royalty. 387 00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:15,832 It was probably around 2004, 388 00:24:15,912 --> 00:24:18,372 I saw Prince Andrew. He was at the pool. 389 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:24,046 He was with, at that time, an unknown girl to me. 390 00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:27,008 She was young. She didn't have any top on. 391 00:24:27,382 --> 00:24:29,092 They were engaged in foreplay. 392 00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:30,391 He was... 393 00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:34,175 grabbing her and grinding against her. 394 00:24:35,432 --> 00:24:38,352 You know, you tell yourself that you didn't know for sure. 395 00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:41,145 You never really saw anything. 396 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:43,944 But that's just all rationalization. 397 00:24:45,275 --> 00:24:49,645 Jeffrey Epstein, he was a guy that concealed his deviance very well. 398 00:24:50,739 --> 00:24:52,489 But he didn't conceal it that well. 399 00:24:54,117 --> 00:24:56,537 One day, the pool guy's on the island when I get there. 400 00:24:57,245 --> 00:24:58,955 He said, "Why are you doing this?" 401 00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:00,076 And I said, 402 00:25:00,499 --> 00:25:03,289 "I don't know. I really... The money." 403 00:25:03,752 --> 00:25:05,842 And he said, "Do you have any children?" 404 00:25:05,921 --> 00:25:09,091 And I said, "Yeah, I have two daughters, 13 and 15." 405 00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:13,304 And he said, "Would you let your daughters come to the island?" 406 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,680 And when he said that, 407 00:25:16,097 --> 00:25:20,597 I realized I wouldn't let my two children within five miles of that man. 408 00:25:21,811 --> 00:25:23,061 And I quit the next day. 409 00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:28,395 I don't believe Jeffrey Epstein ever regretted 410 00:25:28,485 --> 00:25:30,605 a single thing he did in his life. 411 00:25:31,613 --> 00:25:35,533 I think that he's one of those kinds of sociopaths 412 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:41,749 that could afford to live out his perversions in any way that he wanted. 413 00:25:47,337 --> 00:25:50,667 [Sarah Ransome] At the US Virgin Islands, you've got authorities going, you know, 414 00:25:50,757 --> 00:25:52,677 "Hello, Mr. Epstein, nice to see you again," 415 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:54,759 welcoming him at the airport 416 00:25:54,844 --> 00:25:56,724 as if he's some sort of celebrity, 417 00:25:57,180 --> 00:26:00,060 with about five girls trailing behind, 418 00:26:00,141 --> 00:26:02,061 and no one said anything. 419 00:26:02,769 --> 00:26:05,939 And I think that they knew. 420 00:26:06,356 --> 00:26:09,066 The airport staff knew. The flight controllers knew. 421 00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:12,070 The pilots knew. The landing guys knew. 422 00:26:12,153 --> 00:26:14,703 The guys that are even taking the luggage off knew. 423 00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:16,238 They all knew. 424 00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:25,384 From the very first day that I arrived on the island, 425 00:26:25,458 --> 00:26:26,498 the abuse started. 426 00:26:28,169 --> 00:26:31,719 Natalya called me and said that he, um... 427 00:26:31,798 --> 00:26:34,178 wanted to see me in... in his room. 428 00:26:35,302 --> 00:26:37,552 And there was this massage table, 429 00:26:37,637 --> 00:26:40,217 and then I was asked to go on the table. 430 00:26:42,767 --> 00:26:43,937 He just raped me. 431 00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:47,768 It... 432 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:50,817 It was like lying on a surgeon's table 433 00:26:51,234 --> 00:26:54,204 and someone doing things to you 434 00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:57,736 that you have no control over. You're... You're powerless. 435 00:26:58,199 --> 00:26:59,279 I was trapped. 436 00:27:00,493 --> 00:27:03,713 From the very first day, I think I was in such shock 437 00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:07,252 because I think the more he saw 438 00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:10,714 you being damaged, the more he enjoyed it... 439 00:27:11,755 --> 00:27:13,205 the more it excited him. 440 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,860 This area here reminds me of 441 00:27:35,945 --> 00:27:39,065 the evening when I tried to escape the island 442 00:27:39,449 --> 00:27:42,079 after I had been raped three times that day. 443 00:27:44,371 --> 00:27:46,081 [voice breaking] And he would do things, 444 00:27:46,831 --> 00:27:48,631 so... [crying] 445 00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:50,708 [sobbing] It was... Sorry. 446 00:27:54,923 --> 00:27:58,723 [sobbing] He did things that no man should ever do to a woman. 447 00:27:59,844 --> 00:28:01,514 And he did it all the time, 448 00:28:01,596 --> 00:28:03,806 and, you know, that day I'd just had enough. 449 00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:08,604 My plan was just to swim away. 450 00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:12,651 And I specifically went to a remote part of the island. 451 00:28:13,858 --> 00:28:17,818 Before I'd even gathered my thoughts as to how I was going to climb down, 452 00:28:17,904 --> 00:28:22,534 uh... get into the ocean, swim away, Jeffrey Epstein found me 453 00:28:23,034 --> 00:28:26,754 almost immediately. He knew exactly  where I was, the location... 454 00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:28,117 Um... 455 00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:32,586 And I knew then that I was being filmed. I was being watched 24/7. 456 00:28:33,044 --> 00:28:36,384 There were cameras all over the island, and he got me back. 457 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:47,184 [woman] Jeffrey's Island: it's like smoke and mirrors. 458 00:28:47,684 --> 00:28:49,604 Some really bad stuff happened there. 459 00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:51,902 I'm Chauntae Davies, 460 00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:56,690 and I first met Jeffrey Epstein at 21 years old. 461 00:28:58,069 --> 00:29:01,359 I worked for Jeffrey as a professional masseuse. 462 00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:03,235 It was the end of 2001 463 00:29:03,324 --> 00:29:05,794 when they said, "We're flying to Jeffrey's island." 464 00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:08,794 And here I was going to this private island in... 465 00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:12,292 in the... in the Caribbean and, you know, just all this was just 466 00:29:12,375 --> 00:29:14,035 so foreign to me that I just, you know, 467 00:29:14,127 --> 00:29:18,207 I was... I started to get very excited because I was starting to really see 468 00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:19,878 the perks of working for them. 469 00:29:22,218 --> 00:29:23,798 They showed me around the island, 470 00:29:23,887 --> 00:29:26,007 the various villas and where I was staying. 471 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,059 So after dinner that night, I went back to my room, 472 00:29:30,643 --> 00:29:33,903 and then Sarah Kellen, their assistant, came knocking on my door and said, 473 00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:35,940 "Jeffrey is ready for his massage now." 474 00:29:37,984 --> 00:29:39,994 [sinister music] 475 00:29:40,987 --> 00:29:43,987 [Chauntae Davies] It started to feel like this is not... this is not okay. 476 00:29:44,073 --> 00:29:46,083 This is not... This isn't going somewhere good. 477 00:29:48,995 --> 00:29:51,285 I began the massage like I always did, 478 00:29:51,915 --> 00:29:56,415 and then he flipped around, and he threw me on the bed 479 00:29:56,503 --> 00:29:58,763 by holding my wrists together and raped me. 480 00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:05,894 He... jumped off the bed and got in the shower, 481 00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:10,770 and I just jumped off the bed also, and ran out of the door, 482 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:12,770 and ran all the way back to my villa. 483 00:30:13,478 --> 00:30:17,148 I'd left my shoes behind and was barefoot running back, 484 00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:21,032 and by the time I got back to my villa, my feet were... were a bloody mess, 485 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:24,160 and then I just cried myself to sleep that night and... 486 00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:28,535 woke up the next day and tried to pretend like it didn't happen. 487 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:33,001 Did I resist? Absolutely. Did I say no? Yes, I did. 488 00:30:33,414 --> 00:30:34,874 Did I fight? No, I didn't. 489 00:30:35,083 --> 00:30:35,923 Um... 490 00:30:37,418 --> 00:30:38,958 You know, I was terrified. 491 00:30:39,045 --> 00:30:41,005 [voice breaking] I was isolated on a private island 492 00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:42,379 in the middle of nowhere and... 493 00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:43,837 Um... 494 00:30:46,177 --> 00:30:47,007 [sighs] 495 00:30:48,304 --> 00:30:50,224 Just didn't, you know... 496 00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:52,229 Just let it happen. 497 00:31:06,239 --> 00:31:09,119 Jeffrey Epstein went to jail just before 10:00 this morning. 498 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,040 He pleaded guilty in open court. 499 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,709 He agreed to serve a total of 18 months in the Palm Beach Detention Facility. 500 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:17,579 [man] It was negotiated between the federal government and the state 501 00:31:17,667 --> 00:31:21,127 that Mr. Epstein would serve his time at a county jail... 502 00:31:21,796 --> 00:31:22,756 which was ours. 503 00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:29,430 Mr. Epstein stayed in T dorm, 504 00:31:29,512 --> 00:31:31,892 which is located where my finger is pointing. 505 00:31:33,057 --> 00:31:36,687 Describing this as a jail sentence 506 00:31:37,186 --> 00:31:40,186 is grossly misleading. 507 00:31:40,648 --> 00:31:44,988 He served it in a private wing of the jail. 508 00:31:45,445 --> 00:31:47,275 [Edwards] His cell door was left open. 509 00:31:47,363 --> 00:31:50,123 He was provided food that other people didn't get to eat. 510 00:31:50,199 --> 00:31:51,909 He was provided a TV room. 511 00:31:51,993 --> 00:31:54,373 He got to meet with his lawyers almost around the clock 512 00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:57,924 when he was at the jail facility. 513 00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:04,255 [Michael Gauger] Mr. Epstein was given work release that he qualified for 514 00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:06,009 immediately upon his entry. 515 00:32:08,134 --> 00:32:10,014 [Edwards] Are you released from jail at some time? 516 00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:12,514 Do you have to report back to jail on a daily basis? 517 00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:15,217 Yes, I report back to jail at 8:00 p.m. 518 00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:17,307 [Edwards stammers] Every single day? 519 00:32:17,977 --> 00:32:18,807 Yes, sir. 520 00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:22,145 [Edwards] And is it seven days a week that you're out on work release? 521 00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:23,071 No, sir. 522 00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:25,529 [Edwards] How many days a week are you out on work release? 523 00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:26,492 Six. 524 00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:28,275 [Edwards] And of those six days, 525 00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:30,953 how many hours per day are you out on work release? 526 00:32:31,032 --> 00:32:31,872 Twelve. 527 00:32:33,242 --> 00:32:38,082 For sex offenders to be on work release makes no sense to me. 528 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:43,165 [Gauger] Every other inmate would be given the same privileges 529 00:32:43,252 --> 00:32:44,712 if they met the parameters. 530 00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:50,217 Mr. Epstein had to file for a work permit application, 531 00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:52,181 and that's what I have in my hand. 532 00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:56,427 "Participants shall not engage in or have contact with any person 533 00:32:56,516 --> 00:32:58,426 that's engaged in illegal activities." 534 00:33:00,353 --> 00:33:03,193 Part of the agreement was an off-duty deputy 535 00:33:03,272 --> 00:33:06,032 that he would be responsible for the salaries of 536 00:33:06,275 --> 00:33:11,405 that would be with him the entire time of, uh... at his office. 537 00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:16,740 It was approximately $42 an hour for a deputy to be with him. 538 00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:19,213 So that's 12 hours per day. 539 00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:22,251 Here are the payments that were made by Epstein, 540 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:27,297 uh, with a total of $128,136. 541 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,299 [Edwards] At the office, he was able to ask other females 542 00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:34,676 to send him photographs. 543 00:33:35,263 --> 00:33:39,103 He was able to fly girls in. He was able to engage in sexual acts. 544 00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:44,403 [Gauger] We were given Mr. Epstein under conditions that we were not used to, 545 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,613 and we did the very best we could 546 00:33:47,692 --> 00:33:49,442 under the parameters that we had. 547 00:33:53,239 --> 00:33:55,909 [Musgrave] It's hard to decide  which part of the deal is the worst, 548 00:33:55,992 --> 00:33:59,452 but I think probably the biggest laugh was that he was allowed to leave. 549 00:33:59,537 --> 00:34:00,497 So he was just like, 550 00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:02,580 he was staying at a really bad motel. 551 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:05,625 [Ransome] He did jail, whatever that is, 552 00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:07,960 but you know a Holiday Inn. [chuckles] Great. 553 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:11,666 So, I've been raped over and over again 554 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:17,890 because Alex Acosta didn't have the balls or the courage to protect us. 555 00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:30,823 [reporter 1] A few steps, a smile, and a wave to the deputy at the door. 556 00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:33,242 We watched Jeffrey Epstein walk out of jail, 557 00:34:33,321 --> 00:34:35,361 but only his attorneys heard from him. 558 00:34:35,448 --> 00:34:37,618 He's very happy that his jail sentence is over, 559 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:40,040 and, uh, he can begin a new chapter in his life. 560 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,040 [reporter 2] Palm Beach billionaire  Jeffrey Epstein is waking up 561 00:34:48,127 --> 00:34:49,547 in his mansion this morning 562 00:34:49,629 --> 00:34:52,469 after serving just 13 months of his 18 month sentence 563 00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:54,718 for paying underage girls for sex. 564 00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:58,760 [reporter 3] Epstein will serve 12 months  house arrest at his Palm Beach home. 565 00:34:58,846 --> 00:35:00,766 The 54-year-old will be confined to his home 566 00:35:00,848 --> 00:35:04,268 except for work and other activities approved by his probation officer. 567 00:35:06,938 --> 00:35:10,228 [Fisten] In 2009, after Jeffrey Epstein got out of jail, 568 00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:12,856 victims' attorney Brad Edwards asked me 569 00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:16,244 to follow Jeffrey to see if he was abiding by his probation. 570 00:35:18,407 --> 00:35:21,867 So we're about a block and a half east of Jeffrey's house. 571 00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:26,789 The street here, you get a good view of who would come in and out of his gate. 572 00:35:26,874 --> 00:35:28,464 [camera shutter clicking] 573 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,169 [camera shutter clicking] 574 00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:36,876 [Fisten] There was a couple of occasions where we knew Jeffrey was hiding 575 00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:38,508 in the car when he left. 576 00:35:40,054 --> 00:35:43,684 He would violate his probation almost on a daily basis. 577 00:35:47,436 --> 00:35:51,356 There's 11 pages here of just different violations. 578 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,150 I think I myself documented 66 different days 579 00:35:56,237 --> 00:35:58,107 that he violated his probation. 580 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,780 On this particular day... 581 00:36:00,867 --> 00:36:03,287 -[camera shutter clicking] -...Epstein left his house... 582 00:36:03,369 --> 00:36:04,659 [camera shutter clicking] 583 00:36:04,745 --> 00:36:08,575 ...and drove to South Beach where he met with Alan Dershowitz at a hotel. 584 00:36:08,666 --> 00:36:09,956 [camera shutter clicking] 585 00:36:10,042 --> 00:36:12,422 [Fisten] This is pictures  of his bodyguard, Igor, 586 00:36:12,503 --> 00:36:14,303 outside waiting for them to come out. 587 00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:16,264 That's his Escalade. 588 00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:19,590 I had contacted the probation and said, "Do you know where Jeffrey is?" 589 00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,757 And she said, "Yeah, he's home at his house." 590 00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:24,596 I said, "No he's not. He's at a hotel down in Miami." 591 00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:28,023 I waited outside for Jeffrey to leave. 592 00:36:28,102 --> 00:36:31,112 I just got out of my car with my camera and I said, "Hey, smile." 593 00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:32,399 [camera shutter clicking] 594 00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:37,319 -[camera shutter clicking] -[Fisten] He would go to New York... 595 00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:38,570 to his island. 596 00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:41,615 He would go to the airport, jump in his helicopter. 597 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:44,329 Who knows where he went without telling anybody? 598 00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:47,464 Every time I brought the probation office a case, 599 00:36:47,705 --> 00:36:49,535 they kept telling me the same thing. 600 00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:52,174 "What would you like us to do? He's a celebrity." 601 00:36:52,251 --> 00:36:54,001 I mean, just think about this. 602 00:36:54,212 --> 00:36:56,882 You have a pedophile out on probation. 603 00:36:57,548 --> 00:37:00,178 To violate probation in the state of Florida is illegal, 604 00:37:00,635 --> 00:37:02,135 except for Jeffrey Epstein. 605 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,220 [camera shutter clicks] 606 00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:14,941 [Davies] In 2002, Jeffrey's office asked me 607 00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:17,494 if I wanted to go on a trip to Africa. 608 00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:23,816 I was reluctant to go because I was traumatized on the island, 609 00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:26,948 but I developed the sort of mentality 610 00:37:27,036 --> 00:37:28,996 that as long as I didn't talk about the abuse, 611 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,460 it didn't really happen. 612 00:37:30,539 --> 00:37:34,089 It was something that, you know, I'd kind of been conditioned to 613 00:37:34,168 --> 00:37:35,798 from my childhood. Just, you know, 614 00:37:35,878 --> 00:37:38,048 there was so many tragedies and traumas that happened, 615 00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:39,920 and none of it was ever talked about. 616 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:42,933 So Ghislaine got on one of the phone calls and said, 617 00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:45,850 "This is a great opportunity, and we'd love to have you." 618 00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:47,470 I went from just the masseuse 619 00:37:47,556 --> 00:37:50,516 to being asked to be a personal assistant on this trip. 620 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:55,265 So I was blinded by the opportunity of it. 621 00:37:56,023 --> 00:37:57,613 I hadn't gone anywhere really 622 00:37:57,692 --> 00:38:00,032 and to go to Africa was like a dream come true. 623 00:38:01,237 --> 00:38:03,197 I flew from L.A. to New York. 624 00:38:03,281 --> 00:38:05,951 The plane was ready on the tarmac when I got there, 625 00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:07,493 and I took a seat. 626 00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:12,422 Then... our... our guests arrived. 627 00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:15,331 It was Bill Clinton, 628 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,300 Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker. 629 00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:19,339 I was... 630 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,300 blown away, like, "Oh, my God!" 631 00:38:21,382 --> 00:38:22,432 It was surreal. 632 00:38:23,342 --> 00:38:25,512 But the trip was about the AIDS organization 633 00:38:25,594 --> 00:38:26,894 that Clinton had started. 634 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:32,020 This trip to Africa is probably the single most... 635 00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:35,689 amazing moment of my life. 636 00:38:37,398 --> 00:38:39,818 And I remember having this false belief that 637 00:38:40,443 --> 00:38:43,493 the abuse had stopped because nothing had happened in Africa, 638 00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:46,741 thinking that maybe it just wasn't going to happen anymore. 639 00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:49,155 But after the Africa trip, 640 00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:53,655 the abuse started all over again, and it never stopped after that. 641 00:38:56,042 --> 00:38:59,842 It never once occurred to me that I was being paid for anything more 642 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,800 than being a masseuse. I really kept it separate. 643 00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:06,472 I was there for a job, and this man was also sexually assaulting me on the side. 644 00:39:06,552 --> 00:39:08,262 It was two separate things for me. 645 00:39:08,929 --> 00:39:10,509 I definitely didn't have... 646 00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:15,389 the mature mindset of a normal 21, 22, 23-year-old. 647 00:39:16,645 --> 00:39:19,975 My mom had fled an extremely abusive relationship, 648 00:39:20,066 --> 00:39:23,356 and so when we fled, I was taking care of my sister. 649 00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:29,030 Years later, my then 17-year-old sister was living with me. 650 00:39:32,036 --> 00:39:35,866 On one random weekend, Jeffrey and Ghislaine flew to L.A., 651 00:39:36,290 --> 00:39:38,170 and they just invited me for lunch. 652 00:39:38,626 --> 00:39:40,496 Ghislaine was like,  "Bring her along," you know, 653 00:39:40,586 --> 00:39:43,506 and it never occurred to me that this was maybe a bad idea. 654 00:39:44,423 --> 00:39:47,433 I never thought that he was doing this to other people. 655 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:48,340 I really didn't. 656 00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:50,433 So... 657 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,519 I brought my sister with me... 658 00:39:54,475 --> 00:39:56,765 and it was decided right then and there 659 00:39:56,852 --> 00:39:58,902 that they were going to send her to school in Spain 660 00:39:58,979 --> 00:40:02,689 to study language and to pursue her dream to be a translator. 661 00:40:05,444 --> 00:40:09,374 It wasn't until April of 2005, almost two years later, 662 00:40:09,448 --> 00:40:12,198 that I learned that he was also doing this to my sister. 663 00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:16,793 She came back home with an eating disorder. 664 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:19,955 She was rail-thin and looked horrible, and... 665 00:40:21,460 --> 00:40:23,380 she confessed that Jeffrey had been... 666 00:40:24,213 --> 00:40:25,633 sexually assaulting her... 667 00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:29,012 basically since they sent her to school. 668 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,809 I never knew until she came home that day. 669 00:40:35,641 --> 00:40:38,941 My sister thought that Jeffrey was the most powerful man she'd ever meet 670 00:40:39,019 --> 00:40:41,229 and knew that he was friends with celebrities and... 671 00:40:41,313 --> 00:40:43,363 and, you know, wealthy people and... 672 00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:48,153 There was an altercation that took place in Jeffrey's Paris apartment 673 00:40:48,737 --> 00:40:50,237 with Harvey Weinstein. 674 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,120 My sister came running from the room, 675 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,200 freaked out at whatever he'd said and did in there, 676 00:40:56,579 --> 00:40:59,669 and immediately, Harvey Weinstein's assistant got involved, 677 00:40:59,748 --> 00:41:01,918 trying to remedy the situation... 678 00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:04,877 by sending flowers and apology notes. 679 00:41:06,881 --> 00:41:10,301 Jeffrey and Harvey are both very disgusting people 680 00:41:10,968 --> 00:41:15,558 who used their power to manipulate and abuse. 681 00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:22,305 I let Jeffrey know that I knew what he had done to my sister 682 00:41:22,396 --> 00:41:26,436 and that I didn't want to, you know, have anything to do with him anymore. 683 00:41:29,528 --> 00:41:32,068 And he told me that 684 00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:36,116 if I thought I could get anywhere in life without his help that I was wrong, 685 00:41:36,744 --> 00:41:40,834 and basically hung up on me after that, and we never spoke again. 686 00:41:43,834 --> 00:41:45,044 I still feel... 687 00:41:46,086 --> 00:41:50,546 an immense amount of guilt because I was responsible for her and I... 688 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:54,800 let her s... move to a different country under the pretense 689 00:41:54,887 --> 00:41:57,257 that she was going to get this amazing education, 690 00:41:57,348 --> 00:41:59,978 and she came back traumatized 691 00:42:00,059 --> 00:42:02,389 at the same hands of the person who was traumatizing me 692 00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:04,058 for the last three years and... 693 00:42:04,271 --> 00:42:05,111 Um... 694 00:42:06,273 --> 00:42:09,493 How could she not be angry? You know? I would be angry. 695 00:42:11,445 --> 00:42:13,355 There's definitely still a lot of... 696 00:42:14,448 --> 00:42:19,908 guilt and anger that I have and feel that I don't know will ever go away. 697 00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:25,674 [Ransome] Jeffrey found out where your weakness was. 698 00:42:26,418 --> 00:42:28,168 When I was 14, I had been raped. 699 00:42:28,254 --> 00:42:31,884 That one rape will affect you for the rest of your life. 700 00:42:35,761 --> 00:42:39,971 Part of being sexually trafficked is you're coerced right from the start. 701 00:42:40,516 --> 00:42:42,016 Once you've opened that door, 702 00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:44,981 they then shut that door so you can't get back out. 703 00:42:46,730 --> 00:42:49,190 Jeffrey put me up in his apartment in New York. 704 00:42:50,192 --> 00:42:51,942 He gave me enough money to buy food. 705 00:42:52,027 --> 00:42:54,567 He was, um, organizing my transportation. 706 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:56,530 He was going to be paying for my education. 707 00:42:56,615 --> 00:42:58,655 My whole life was based through Jeffrey. 708 00:43:03,622 --> 00:43:06,712 It was eight and a half months that I had Jeffrey in my life. 709 00:43:10,045 --> 00:43:15,715 This is as an abusive relationship physically and... and mentally as it gets. 710 00:43:17,428 --> 00:43:19,598 But I left... and I disappeared. 711 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,860 So when I fled New York, 712 00:43:30,524 --> 00:43:32,034 I fled for my life. 713 00:43:35,487 --> 00:43:36,857 You're either going to live or die. 714 00:43:37,364 --> 00:43:39,074 That's... That's... That's simple. 715 00:43:58,385 --> 00:44:01,255 [Fisten] Jeffrey Epstein, after he got released on probation, 716 00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:03,057 he goes to New York. 717 00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:04,930 The first thing he does is have a party. 718 00:44:05,017 --> 00:44:06,887 All these people showing up at this house. 719 00:44:07,353 --> 00:44:08,773 The Prince is there. 720 00:44:08,854 --> 00:44:10,364 Woody Allen's there. 721 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:12,570 After everybody knew 722 00:44:13,192 --> 00:44:16,742 a large number of underage girls were abused, 723 00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:19,910 people continued to associate themselves with him. 724 00:44:22,701 --> 00:44:24,951 [Epstein] I'm just looking to, you know, get my life back. 725 00:44:25,037 --> 00:44:26,457 Go into my philanthropy. 726 00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:30,543 I must have given away like $14 million last year. 727 00:44:31,585 --> 00:44:33,665 I've collected some of the world's smartest people. 728 00:44:33,754 --> 00:44:37,724 I've funded some of the world's greatest cutting-edge science. 729 00:44:38,592 --> 00:44:42,602 I mean, I have lots of Nobel Prize winners come here and they end up, you know... 730 00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:46,639 getting funded for some things that it's difficult to get funded for now. 731 00:44:46,725 --> 00:44:49,395 Quantum computing, for example. 732 00:44:50,062 --> 00:44:52,362 Evolutionary code theory. 733 00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:53,439 [Rush] Mm-hmm. 734 00:44:55,150 --> 00:45:00,610 So you're not, um... you're not... engaging in any sort 735 00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:03,948 -of illegal massage or...? -[Epstein scoffs] No. I'm afraid not. 736 00:45:05,452 --> 00:45:08,212 Most of the scientists who come here are in their 70s and 80s, 737 00:45:08,288 --> 00:45:11,248 and they're probably... They're not that attractive. 738 00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:16,464 [Marc Fisher] Epstein, uh... managed to maintain 739 00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:19,877 a very good reputation in many, uh, circles 740 00:45:19,967 --> 00:45:25,007 by being a very generous donor to universities, to research centers. 741 00:45:25,764 --> 00:45:29,144 He would show up at academic conferences, at medical conventions, 742 00:45:29,768 --> 00:45:33,398 and not only write them a check but want to be part of the discussion. 743 00:45:36,316 --> 00:45:39,026 [Annie Farmer] It was really troubling how quickly he was just, 744 00:45:39,111 --> 00:45:42,321 you know, brought back into the fold in his... in his world 745 00:45:42,406 --> 00:45:45,366 and the celebrities that felt like it was just fine, you know, 746 00:45:45,451 --> 00:45:48,661 to socialize with him and be in public with him. 747 00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:51,673 It felt like there was just really no consequence 748 00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:54,039 and people didn't care about his behavior. 749 00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:55,666 It was really disheartening. 750 00:46:02,843 --> 00:46:04,973 [Musgrave] I think that is one of the tragedies of the case, 751 00:46:05,053 --> 00:46:08,973 is Jeffrey Epstein was allowed to just resume business as usual. 752 00:46:09,308 --> 00:46:11,598 His victims struggled, you know? 753 00:46:11,685 --> 00:46:14,645 They had had, you know, this horrible experience. 754 00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:16,520 Nobody had taken them seriously. 755 00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:19,397 And you know, yeah, for years I think a lot of them struggled 756 00:46:19,485 --> 00:46:22,985 and still probably to this day... are still struggling. 757 00:46:30,829 --> 00:46:35,079 [Wild] Being so young at 14, being introduced to Jeffrey Epstein, 758 00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:36,633 you know... 759 00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:41,218 having this sexual relationship with a guy that gives me money. 760 00:46:41,965 --> 00:46:43,255 It was too much. 761 00:46:44,426 --> 00:46:46,426 I just dropped out of high school. 762 00:46:47,346 --> 00:46:53,436 It wasn't pretty. It was, um... you know, drugs, money, sex, fast life. 763 00:46:54,061 --> 00:46:57,771 Um... For a very long time, I went down that road. 764 00:46:59,316 --> 00:47:02,776 And that did lead me into incarceration. 765 00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:06,985 It was a dark time, for sure. 766 00:47:12,913 --> 00:47:16,833 [Licata] I started going down this really depressing road. 767 00:47:19,419 --> 00:47:20,799 I hated myself. 768 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,050 I wanted to inflict pain on myself. 769 00:47:25,926 --> 00:47:27,796 So I would just take like a knife, 770 00:47:27,886 --> 00:47:29,556 and I'd just like... 771 00:47:29,638 --> 00:47:32,468 Just cut it right here on my arm. 772 00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:36,902 If I was the one doing the pain... 773 00:47:37,938 --> 00:47:40,478 then it wasn't anybody else doing it to me. 774 00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:45,653 I wanted to... to know that I could always have control of a situation 775 00:47:45,737 --> 00:47:51,027 because that situation that I was in made me feel like I was helpless. 776 00:47:52,786 --> 00:47:56,326 Things only got worse after that. 777 00:47:57,416 --> 00:48:00,206 I was doing drugs. 778 00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:02,626 Started out with pills 779 00:48:03,046 --> 00:48:05,466 and then mushrooms... 780 00:48:06,341 --> 00:48:07,631 acid... 781 00:48:08,552 --> 00:48:09,512 heroin. 782 00:48:10,596 --> 00:48:11,806 Gotten to a point and just... 783 00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:15,349 I... [sighs] I'm just gonna kill myself doing these drugs and... 784 00:48:15,934 --> 00:48:17,274 why would it matter? 785 00:48:21,773 --> 00:48:25,613 There's days when I don't get out of bed, 786 00:48:25,694 --> 00:48:27,744 and I don't feel like I'm going to make it. 787 00:48:29,406 --> 00:48:33,116 I lost a lot of friends. I had to quit a lot of places 788 00:48:33,201 --> 00:48:35,041 because I was being bullied at work. 789 00:48:35,537 --> 00:48:36,577 I struggled. 790 00:48:39,166 --> 00:48:41,376 Even though I was a minor when I met him, 791 00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:42,630 I wasn't protected. 792 00:48:43,003 --> 00:48:44,553 My name was thrown out there. 793 00:48:46,173 --> 00:48:48,843 I was definitely vilified, humiliated. 794 00:48:49,343 --> 00:48:52,603 They released my name. They released my pictures. 795 00:48:53,555 --> 00:48:55,805 They released a lot of personal information. 796 00:48:56,475 --> 00:48:58,515 I was a victim, just like the other girls. 797 00:48:58,602 --> 00:49:03,022 I was, um, preyed upon by Jeffrey Epstein, the same way the others were. 798 00:49:05,984 --> 00:49:09,154 I do think about the girls that I brought, that I recruited... 799 00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:12,741 and I think this is probably the hardest part because of the guilt. 800 00:49:13,909 --> 00:49:15,619 That's what destroys me every day. 801 00:49:27,172 --> 00:49:29,762 [Giuffre] Being lent out and being abused by Epstein, 802 00:49:30,092 --> 00:49:31,512 I was in a bad way. 803 00:49:31,593 --> 00:49:34,053 I was very scared, and I was very alone... 804 00:49:34,930 --> 00:49:36,850 and I knew that I had to get out. 805 00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:40,436 I didn't know what that opportunity was going to be 806 00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:44,269 when I started packing those bags, but I really felt like this was my break. 807 00:49:46,149 --> 00:49:47,359 I'm in Australia now... 808 00:49:48,610 --> 00:49:50,740 and I have been for 17 years 809 00:49:50,821 --> 00:49:52,781 since I escaped from Jeffrey Epstein. 810 00:49:55,325 --> 00:49:59,075 It was 2002, just before my 19th birthday. 811 00:49:59,579 --> 00:50:02,499 I'd been with Jeffrey just over two years at that point. 812 00:50:03,166 --> 00:50:06,546 We went for a snorkeling day on his island... 813 00:50:07,629 --> 00:50:11,089 and Ghislaine's like, "I wanna talk to you about something kind of serious." 814 00:50:11,174 --> 00:50:14,094 And I thought, "Oh, God, what are they going to ask me to do now?" 815 00:50:15,387 --> 00:50:19,137 And she goes, "Well, Jeffrey and I, we want to have a baby. 816 00:50:19,224 --> 00:50:21,444 We want you to have the baby for us, 817 00:50:21,518 --> 00:50:23,978 but it's not really going to be your kid 818 00:50:24,062 --> 00:50:27,862 because we need you to sign over that child's rights to us." 819 00:50:29,651 --> 00:50:32,861 It was gut-wrenching. I just... I knew I had to get out. 820 00:50:35,073 --> 00:50:38,203 But I was afraid to say no, so I said, "Okay, well, 821 00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:41,750 you guys did promise me that I'd get an education. 822 00:50:42,539 --> 00:50:46,129 So could you at least let me get my massage certificate... 823 00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:48,381 and we'll do it." 824 00:50:49,504 --> 00:50:51,384 And not even a few weeks later, 825 00:50:51,465 --> 00:50:55,135 Jeffrey gives me these tickets booked to Thailand... 826 00:50:55,552 --> 00:50:56,472 Um... 827 00:50:56,553 --> 00:50:58,893 And he says, "Happy birthday. This is for you. 828 00:50:58,972 --> 00:51:01,022 You're going to go get a certificate." 829 00:51:03,727 --> 00:51:07,227 So I get to Thailand, and I'm like, 830 00:51:07,731 --> 00:51:11,231 "I have an opportunity here to escape. 831 00:51:12,110 --> 00:51:15,110 I've got to tell somebody what's going on. I've got to leave." 832 00:51:17,657 --> 00:51:19,697 Nearly immediately, I met Robert. 833 00:51:20,577 --> 00:51:21,577 We fell in love. 834 00:51:22,329 --> 00:51:25,919 It was the first moment in my life where I said I can take control of my own life. 835 00:51:26,875 --> 00:51:28,165 He got on one knee. 836 00:51:28,251 --> 00:51:30,251 He proposed, just like that. 837 00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:33,171 He said, "Come back to Australia with me." 838 00:51:35,342 --> 00:51:38,602 Seven days later, we were married in a Chiang Mai Buddhist temple 839 00:51:38,845 --> 00:51:39,925 in the mountains. 840 00:51:41,431 --> 00:51:43,391 It was the happiest moment of my life. 841 00:51:49,481 --> 00:51:51,651 I called Jeffrey. I didn't know what to say 842 00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:53,283 or how to say it, but I said... 843 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,360 I just blurted out, um... "Jeffrey, I just got married... 844 00:51:57,656 --> 00:51:59,566 and, um, I'm not coming back." 845 00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:02,204 He said, "What do you mean?" 846 00:52:02,786 --> 00:52:05,616 And you could tell he was pissed, well pissed. 847 00:52:06,331 --> 00:52:08,711 And I'm scared. I'm scared to death. 848 00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:12,303 I said, "Jeffrey, I'm... Just I've started a new life. 849 00:52:12,379 --> 00:52:14,259 You know, that's it." 850 00:52:16,466 --> 00:52:17,716 And he hung up the phone. 851 00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:23,850 I felt free. I mean, I immediately felt like the chains broke off. 852 00:52:27,018 --> 00:52:28,768 It was a powerful moment for me... 853 00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:32,113 but one of the first things that I said to my husband was, 854 00:52:32,190 --> 00:52:33,650 "Robbie, enough's enough. 855 00:52:33,733 --> 00:52:36,823 We've got to do something. He needs to be brought to justice." 856 00:52:37,112 --> 00:52:40,122 Then I said, "Okay, let's hold them accountable." 857 00:52:40,824 --> 00:52:43,244 And that's when we decided we're going to go get them. 858 00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:45,042 We're gonna go get them all. 69445

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