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[female on police radio]
3991 on the suspect.
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[indistinct talk on police radio]
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[male on police radio] Morning.
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This is a complete description
of the residence desired to be searched
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including the curtilage attached thereof.
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Being the premises occupied
or under the control of Jeffrey Epstein,
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white male, date of birth 1/20/53.
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This is your copy.
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When we are concluded,
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I will leave a list
of what items we're taking.
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[dramatic music]
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Seven months into the case,
detectives executed the search warrant
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at Mr. Epstein's residence.
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[Tim Malloy] They opened the doors
and went up the winding staircase
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into his ornate and bizarre world.
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Pictures of young kids half-naked.
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Nudes everywhere.
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One of the police officers who saw it
said that it was just really weird.
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Detectives also discovered
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a very bizarre steam room
and massage room setup.
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They actually found some computers
and equipment that remain in the house,
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but police suspected
most of Epstein's computer hard drives,
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and surveillance cameras, and videos
had already been taken out of the house.
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[Michael Reiter] There was space on a desk
where wires were hanging,
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but there was no computer.
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At that point, it was fairly clear to us
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that Mr. Epstein knew
that he was under investigation.
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Epstein had been tipped off.
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[sinister music]
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[Reiter] After the search warrant,
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it was disappointing to realize
that Epstein's house had been cleaned up.
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There were a lot of things
that had been removed.
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But there was still plenty of evidence
that was left.
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I think the most useful thing
that we learned
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was that the victims' accounts,
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detailed descriptionsÂ
of Mr. Epstein's home,
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where rooms were located,
the configuration of the home,
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validated what they had told us.
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There were memo pads of phone calls
that we seized
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that included contact information
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for some of the victims
and for some of the adult females
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that had been used to identify
and recruit the victims,
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so that was productive for us as well.
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[woman] The message pads that were taken
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from the investigation thatÂ
the Palm Beach Police Department did,
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they're very revealing.
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Individuals who were being called
or calling back in
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to come over for these sexual massages.
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For example, one has a redaction on it,
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meaning it was a minor
who was calling in, and it says,
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"She is wondering if 2:30 is okay.
She needs to stay in school."
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I think I took this case
much more seriously than other matters
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that I've handled,
in the sense that it was very personal.
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I do have a daughter. I have children.
I met with these victims.
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It was very personal,
the abuse that they suffered.
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I won't stop
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until the people who victimized
these individuals are held accountable.
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The age of consent in Florida is 18.
It does vary state to state,
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and in New York, for example, it's 17,
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but this really isn't a case
about consent.
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The point of these cases is
that there was no consent here.
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[Reiter] Seven months
into the investigation,
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we were all extremely frustrated
at the difficulty of this case.
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We applied whatever resources
were necessary to do the best job,
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to quickly be able to reach the point
that we could apply for arrest warrants.
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[man] Detectives that I talked to
said that they were tiptoeing,
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they were acting a little cautiously
because they knew there would be blowback.
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But also they were running into resistance
even among their own, among colleagues.
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Uh, they knew that there were people
who would protect
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any number of the residents on the island.
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And so, to go into a case like this,
you had to walk gingerly,
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you had to make sureÂ
that you held your information closely,
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and you had to be absolutely sure
that you were right.
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[Reiter] We found
that the victims ran the entire gamut
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from those that were thankful
that we contacted them,
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others who said that they were
in love with Jeffrey Epstein,
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and they were going to get married
to Jeffrey Epstein.
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Some victims that we contacted
had gone on to college
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who slammed the door
in the face of detectives.
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We were very surprised to learn
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these criminal activities had gone on
for a fairly long period of time,
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many years prior to the investigation.
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My name is Virginia Giuffre.
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When I was 16, I got a summer job
at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago
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in Palm Beach.
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Uh, I was working there
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as a locker room attendant
in the spa area.
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At the time, I really wanted to become
a massage therapist.
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And not very long into working
at Mar-a-Lago,
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did an English lady come up to me.
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She introduced herself
as Ghislaine Maxwell.
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She was beautiful. She looked educated.
She was nice.
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She said, "Oh, that's interesting.
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You're reading a bookÂ
about massage therapy."
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And she said, "You know,
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I actually know this guy
who's looking for a traveling masseuse.
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You know, if you want,
you can come by this afternoon after work,
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and you can come meet him."
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I'd finished work around 5:00,
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and I pull up at this huge house,
this big mansion...
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and Ghislaine answers the door.
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I walk through the door,
and she's leading me up the staircase,
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and I'm looking around, you know.
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There's photographs everywhere
of important people.
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I could tell that, you know, like,
this guy has some friends in high places.
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And then we go into the massage room,
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and there's this massage bed
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with a naked man laying on top of it,
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face down.
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To me this is, I guess,
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walking into a world I didn't understand,
but I guess I'm gonna learn.
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Ghislaine shows me like,
"Put your lotion here on your hands."
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And then we did his feet,
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his calves...
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his back.
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While the massage was going on,
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they asked me questions about my life.
"So, who are you?"
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"What school do you go to?"
Um... "Tell me about yourself."
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You know, and that's when I felt like
I should open up and tell them, like,
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how much this opportunity means to me.
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My home life started out very hard
from a very young age.
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I'd been a runaway
and lived on the streets.
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I've been abused.
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I felt like it was okay to tell them
about my past.
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And then he turned over.
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[sinister music]
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[Virginia Giuffre] They asked me...
to please take off my clothes.
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Ghislaine started taking off her clothes.
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I didn't know what to do.
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I didn't know what was gonna happen
if I said no, if I screamed.
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I just... I did what they said.
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Ghislaine was behind and touching me.
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It went from oral sex to get on top.
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Still to this day, I don't know
how it went from something real
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to something perverted like that
so quickly.
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Afterwards,
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they said, "The interview went great.
You're going to come back tomorrow."
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And I did.
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I was abused plenty of times
before Epstein had done what he did to me.
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I had no self-esteem. I was scared
that my life was going to be worthless.
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I was the perfect victim for them.
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One thing that Epstein loved me for
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was that I never really asked
too many questions.
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I escalated up the ladder very quickly
with Epstein.
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I did whatever he needed,
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you know, put his socks onÂ
for him before bed, uh...
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make sure
what he needed sexually happened.
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I had to serve him all the time.
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They told me,
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"You're going to do so well.
You're going to travel the world.
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You're gonna meet people
that you'd never think you'd meet.
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We're gonna put you in circles
that you would never even understand."
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Jeffrey Epstein
and Ghislaine Maxwell had a great way
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of normalizing the abuse
that was going on.
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They kind of made it feel like
we were in this really deranged family.
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You know, we would sit back,
and we would watch movies together.
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We would go diving together.
We would go hiking together.
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We would go on 4Runners together.
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We would do so many cool activities
like that together.
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They kept saying,
"We will get you educated.
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You will become
a real massage therapist one day."
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But under the premise
that afterwards you're back to the abuse.
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And, unfortunately...
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I didn't see my life getting any better.
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So I stayed.
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It was like
I am now a slave to these people.
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And then I was trafficked.
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I was lent out to all of their friends.
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They were politicians.
They were businessmen.
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They were powerful people.
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It made me think that
if I had run and caused a ruckus,
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the police wouldn't have believed me,
they wouldn't have done anything about it,
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and Jeffrey and Ghislaine
could have hurt me really bad then.
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He did say like, "People owe me favors.
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I can get away with this.
I will never get caught.
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I own the Palm Beach Police Department."
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[James Patterson] Jeffrey Epstein
fits into that pattern
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of thinking that he's above the law,
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that he can do what he feels like doing.
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But the life of privilege and power
that Epstein lead
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is a far, far cry from the way
he was brought up.
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[children shouting, screaming]
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-[waves crashing]
-[seagulls squawking]
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[Patterson] Epstein was born
and raised in Coney Island, New York,
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which is very middle class,
lower middle class.
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Epstein was a very good student
in high school. He was a bright guy.
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He skipped a couple of grades
in high school, graduated in 1969.
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[lawyer] What college did you attend?
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Cooper Union.
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[lawyer] Did you get a degree
from Cooper Union?
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No, sir.
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[lawyer]
How many years were you in college?
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[tuts] I believe two.
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[lawyer] What'd you study?
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Physics.
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[lawyer] But isn't it true
that you were a teacher
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at the Dalton School in New York
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after college?
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[Patterson] The first mystery is
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how could Epstein get a job teaching
at Dalton without a college degree?
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This was probably the start
of Epstein's lifelong pattern
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of getting away with things
that most people can't.
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[man] In 1976,
Ace Greenberg was running Bear Stearns.
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One day, I was sitting in my office,
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and Ace Greenberg called me to say
that a trustee of the Dalton School
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had a young professor,
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Jeff Epstein,
who wanted to come to Wall Street,
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and Ace asked if I would interview him.
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Epstein was well-known as a good teacher
and somewhat of a ladies man,
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which didn't resonate at the time.
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After grilling Jeffrey a few times,
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I hired him to develop and market
our quantitative analyses for options.
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He was terrific at it.
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Epstein was very quick-witted.
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When, uh, something arose that
he might not have been able to predict,
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he dealt with it in an impressive fashion.
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That's a trait
of an effective salesperson.
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I was favorably impressed
that he could do the work.
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But this, I think, was one of my...
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important mistakes in my career.
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Epstein had been working for me
perhaps two months.
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The head of personnel called me.
He said, "Are you sitting down?
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Jeffrey Epstein lied on his résumé
about his education.
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None of his colleges
have ever heard of him."
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I was stunned.
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I hired a liar.
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Even worse, he was dating Ace's daughter.
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I went to Ace Greenberg.
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I wasn't sure
how he would want me to proceed,
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and Ace said,
"Treat him like anybody else."
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I was prepared to fire him.
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And this is where
his sales skills really resonated.
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When I told him he'd lied,
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he admitted it immediately.
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He just said,
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"I knew I couldn't get a job teaching
at a high-quality school
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if I didn't have
good educational credentials,
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so I wanted to get a chance."
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I said,
"Why didn't you tell us the truth?"
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He said, "Well, I was afraid
the Dalton School would hear about it
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and there would be problems."
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He said, "I wanted to."
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And he did it in a way
that was very convincing.
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He disarmed me.
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And I thought, "Do I want to play God
and throw him in the street,
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maybe destroy his potential?"
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Today, I wish I had.
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He had done well enough
that they made him a limited partner.
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But then a few years after that,
I heard he'd been fired
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for breaking some rules.
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I deeply regret giving Epstein
a second chance.
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That was my tragedy.
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Most of the victims did not want
to prosecute when we first contacted them.
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So once we had four or five victims
who were cooperative,
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we presented applications
for arrest warrants
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to the state attorney's office.
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From the time I first became police chief,
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I had an excellent relationship
with the state attorney,
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Barry Krischer.
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The first time that I talked
about the case against Epstein with him,
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I explained that we had about
40-some victims who were in their teens,
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early teens in some cases,
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who had sex with an adult male in his 50s.
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He said he didn't know Jeffrey Epstein
and he remarked,
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"We'll put him away for the rest
of his life. It's an easy case."
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[sinister music]
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[Marc Fisher] Jeffrey Epstein, both
through his money and his connections,
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was able to assemble
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an extraordinary dream team
of at least eight defense lawyers
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who were known throughout the country
and throughout their industry
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as the absolute best.
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From Clinton impeachment lawyer,
Kenneth Starr,
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the top defense lawyers of South Florida,
people like Roy Black,
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New Yorkers like Jay Lefkowitz
and Gerald Lefcourt
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to Harvard Law School Professor
Alan Dershowitz.
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[Alan Dershowitz] I was born to be
a criminal defense lawyer.
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If you want to be a defense attorney,
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you can't be concerned
about what people think of you.
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So, I did represent Claus von BĂĽlow,
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O.J. Simpson, and Mike Tyson,
and Leona Helmsley, and Patricia Hearst,
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and so many other people.
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My relationship
with Jeffrey Epstein was academic
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and lawyer-client...
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but it was a close academic friendship.
For example, when I would write books,
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I would only send themÂ
to a handful of people.
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He was one of them
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because he would seriously read
every word I wrote,
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and he would have comments
and criticisms.
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Jeffrey Epstein called me, I think,
the day he got the first indications,
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and the first indications were merely
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that one or two of the women
may have been 17,
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and may have lied about their age,
had given him false documentation.
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He asked me if I would help represent him.
I said I couldn't represent him myself,
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I'm not a member of the Florida bar,
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but that I would help him
put together a legal team, and I did.
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[Fisher] Detectives quickly learned
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that Epstein was on to them
and that he was organizing a defense.
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And, in fact,
he was organizing an offense.
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Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys were looking
into what the detectives were doing,
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who they were, what their pasts were,
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whether there were any peccadilloes
that would make them vulnerable to attack.
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[Reiter] There was surveillance of me
for months,
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round-the-clock surveillance
of Detective Recarey,
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around-the clock picking up of his trash
at his home and my trash.
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And the reason that it happened
to the degree that it did
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is because Mr. Epstein had
the resources to do that.
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In fact, we found private investigators
going through the trash
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at the police station.
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So we stopped putting the reports
in the computer
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and actually had them kept separately.
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[Malloy] A few months
after Chief Michael Reiter hands over
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the evidence to his close friend
Barry Krischer,
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Reiter notes an alarming difference
in Krischer's attitude towards Epstein.
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Krischer had all but said to his friend
Chief Michael Reiter,
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"We're gonna string him up.
You had a really solid case."
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And then suddenly,
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the teeth seems to go out
of the investigation,
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at least on the side of the state attorney
who was supposed to be prosecuting this.
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[Reiter] I had been speaking
with Mr. Krischer along the way,
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and the state attorney's officeÂ
started saying,
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"Look, these victims will not make
good witnesses.
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Yes, these victims, most of them,
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received financial compensation for, uh,
the sexual contact with Mr. Epstein,
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but no child can consent to have sex
with an adult."
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But we were never able
to really convince the prosecutors
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that that didn't matter.
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[Malloy] In a release,
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a high-powered local attorney
Jack Goldberger, Epstein's attorney,
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emphasized the grand jury in this
questioned the credibility of the girls
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and therefore limited their charges
simply to solicitation of prostitution.
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Epstein is out on bond,
and he is not talking.
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[woman] I've been a reporter
at The Palm Beach Post for about 16 years.
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I think nobody knew anything
until 2006, and then it just...
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[makes explosion sound] It exploded.
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Epstein's attorneys went
after the victims viciously.
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I mean, their depositions
that I've read were just, I mean, hideous.
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I remember one
where he asked one of the young girls,
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"Is it true you've had three abortions?"
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And then they asked the girl,
"Well, what's worse,
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having three abortions or giving
sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein?"
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It was just brutal
what they did to these women.
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[Dershowitz] You must bring out
all the negatives.
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You have to present the full picture.
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Their credibility may be subject
to question because of their backgrounds,
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but it has nothing to do
with blaming them.
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It's the role of the defense attorney
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to raise questions
about the credibility of any witnesses.
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We don't look at what's good for victims.
We don't look at anything
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except what's good for our client,
ethically and legally.
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[woman] I've been
with the TV station in Palm Beach County
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for almost 23 years now.
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The Jeffrey Epstein story is
as big as it gets.
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So when the story broke,
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we started realizing
the gravity of a Palm Beach billionaire
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and the accusations
that we were starting to hear,
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we were quickly on the air
with this story,
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but Epstein's team wanted this to go away.
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There were weekly phone calls to reporters
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with threats to make the story go away.
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"You don't want to do this.
You shouldn't be looking into this."
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And it was mystifying
to the Palm Beach Police Department
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because they had all this evidence.
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[reporter] Palm Beach Police think
prostitution charges brought against
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billionaire socialite Jeffrey Epstein
don't go far enough.
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Investigators think prosecutors
should have gone after Epstein
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on charges of unlawful sex with a minor.
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So why didn't they?
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[Reiter] We were all extremely frustrated.
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Once we knew
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that the one charge was going to be
the extent of the state's prosecution,
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I wrote the parents of all the victims
and told them that
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I did not feelÂ
that justice was sufficiently served,
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and that I was referring the case
to the FBI.
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[Jane Musgrave]
It's highly unusual for a police chief
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to sidestep the state attorney's office,
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and go directly to the feds,
and demand an investigation.
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I don't know
that I have ever heard of that,
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and I think that's one of the many,
many odd things about this case.
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[Shannon Cake]
Any investigator or investigation,
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the first thing you're going to do is
look back in time and see:
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Has this happened before?
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Are there other claims?
Are there other victims?
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The FBI actually found two women
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who had accused Epstein
a decade earlier, in 1996.
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Maria Farmer, an artist,
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and her younger sister, Annie.
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[Maria Farmer] In 1996,
following the assault
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by Jeffrey and Ghislaine,
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I came back to New York...
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and then I found out that they knew
that I'd reported them to the FBI.
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Ghislaine called and said
she was going to burn all my art,
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and burn my career and destroy it,
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she was entirely socially connected,
and that I was screwed.
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She told me I needed to watch my back,
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that, "I know you like to go running
on the West Side Highway,
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and that's not going to be
a safe place for you anymore,
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because there are a lot of ways to die
on the West Side Highway."
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From that point on, over many years,
I would move, I would relocate,
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and a couple of months would go by,
and I would be moving in,
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and Ghislaine... Ghislaine would call me.
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She would say she knew where I lived.
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She would say
that same kinds of veiled threats like...
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"You're not safe where you are.
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You might want to check
over your shoulder."
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Finally, in 2006, I was living
in the mountains of North Carolina.
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I was hiding.
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I had changed my name.
I had an alias...
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and I get a knock on the door,
and it's this man and this woman,
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and they show me their badge, they're FBI,
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and this woman said,
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"This is about your 1996 FBI report,
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and we're following up
because we're going to get him.
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We're going to get them."
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[Annie Farmer] The FBI came,
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and they interviewed me,
and they interviewed my sister,
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and we told them our stories.
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And so we just thought,
"Oh, my gosh! They're really...
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You know, they're doing a thorough job.
They're looking at people in other places.
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They're recognizing that this is
a more systemic issue,
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and they are... You know,
he's gonna be held accountable."
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[Shawna Rivera] I talked to the FBI,
and they're like,
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"We're here to save you."
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And they assured me
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that they were going to protect me,
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and that they needed me to tell them
everything that happened.
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And they would help
as many victims as they can.
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[Sigrid McCawley]
I think a lot of the families,
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when they came to learn
what had happened to their daughters,
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reached out to attorneys to try
to help them navigate this circumstance,
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because obviously
there was a criminal aspect to it,
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there was a civil aspect to it,
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and they were also facing somebody
who is incredibly powerful,
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incredibly wealthy,
incredibly intimidating,
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so they needed lawyers to help them
through that process.
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[man] The first time I heard
Jeffrey Epstein's name
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was when I had my own law firm
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dedicated to representing crime victims
in civil cases.
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A friend of mine from Jacksonville,
who was also a lawyer,
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he called me and said
that he had received a call from a girl.
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And that was Courtney Wild.
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Courtney came to my office.
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Then she told me
how she went into his house
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and told me what happened there.
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[woman] I was 14
when I was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein.
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It was eighth grade summer,
going from eighth grade to high school.
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From sixth, seventh and eighth grade,
I was a straight-A student.
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I never even got a B.
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I played the trumpet.
I was captain of the cheerleading squad...
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but then from eighth grade to ninth grade,
things fell apart for me and my family.
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Just from, um... my mom's addiction.
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She was sick, battling her own demons,
wasn't really able to care for me,
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and I was basically homeless
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and living at friends' houses
and stuff like that.
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When I first went to Jeffrey's,
455
00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:07,536
I really was expecting
I was going to make easy money
456
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:09,210
giving this guy a massage.
457
00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:12,916
And that situation escalated
to him molesting me.
458
00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:18,171
It happened so quick where it's like,
"What just happened?"
459
00:29:19,507 --> 00:29:22,927
But being vulnerable at 14 years old,
460
00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:29,021
and trying to handle life on my own,
it was just overwhelming, so...
461
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:31,904
um, I did continue
to go back to Jeffrey's.
462
00:29:32,395 --> 00:29:34,145
He made me feel like,
463
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:38,650
you know, basically, I was lucky to be
in his presence.
464
00:29:38,735 --> 00:29:44,815
It was just a glorified manipulation thing
he had going on and that worked.
465
00:29:48,244 --> 00:29:51,794
It was maybe the second time
I went to him or the third.
466
00:29:52,165 --> 00:29:54,285
He asked me, do I have any friends,
467
00:29:54,375 --> 00:29:55,915
can I bring anybody?
468
00:29:56,002 --> 00:29:59,842
And he would give me $200
and the person $200.
469
00:30:01,549 --> 00:30:04,679
In my time frame of going
for three to four years,
470
00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:07,181
I at least brought him
about 40 to 60 girls.
471
00:30:08,556 --> 00:30:11,596
I know that this is wrong, this is crazy,
472
00:30:11,684 --> 00:30:15,694
but I just became okay with that
because of what he offered me.
473
00:30:15,772 --> 00:30:19,442
He offered me cash. He offered me a way
474
00:30:19,943 --> 00:30:21,653
so I could eat and pay my bills,
475
00:30:21,736 --> 00:30:24,526
and he offered me something
that nobody else did.
476
00:30:26,199 --> 00:30:27,869
I felt like he was my lifeline.
477
00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:39,714
[Courtney Wild] So, in the beginning
of the investigation
478
00:30:39,796 --> 00:30:42,166
when the police were reaching out to me,
479
00:30:42,257 --> 00:30:43,337
I was confused.
480
00:30:43,424 --> 00:30:47,804
I felt like I had this painting of Jeffrey
that he was this awesome man,
481
00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:50,597
that he actually saved my life
in a sense,
482
00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:53,522
that I was very lucky
to ever be introduced to him.
483
00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:58,899
But then I see the police reports of girls
that I had brought to Jeffrey's,
484
00:30:59,482 --> 00:31:00,532
close friends,
485
00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:03,614
and that made me have the change of heart.
486
00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:06,319
The emotions come over
487
00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:09,736
of, like, guilt, and shame, and disgust.
488
00:31:10,285 --> 00:31:11,445
It was traumatic.
489
00:31:12,662 --> 00:31:13,912
That's when I started saying,
490
00:31:13,997 --> 00:31:16,747
"Okay, this isn't right.
Something needs to happen about this."
491
00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:22,415
So I find Brad Edwards, my attorney.
492
00:31:23,506 --> 00:31:26,296
[Brad Edwards] I told her, "You don't
really have much to worry about.
493
00:31:26,926 --> 00:31:31,136
This is somebody
who is not ever going to be free again."
494
00:31:31,598 --> 00:31:34,348
She said, "But I don't think
you understand the level of power he has."
495
00:31:35,768 --> 00:31:37,058
It's just unheard of.
496
00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:40,055
It's just an unbelievable scheme
to have kept going
497
00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:42,278
for that long of a period of time.
498
00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:44,567
I've never heard anything like this
499
00:31:44,652 --> 00:31:47,912
where somebody was able to set up
basically a pyramid scheme,
500
00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:50,069
a molestation pyramid scheme.
501
00:31:54,203 --> 00:31:55,583
Hey, do you have the victim chart?
502
00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:57,253
-The chart that we created?
-Yeah.
503
00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:01,172
Well, this is when we were first...
504
00:32:02,337 --> 00:32:04,757
trying to map out the case.
505
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:06,553
We had to prove
506
00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:11,681
that this pyramid of underage girls
in Palm Beach...
507
00:32:12,639 --> 00:32:13,679
was true.
508
00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:18,647
It didn't start from just a random
underage girl walking into the house.
509
00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:21,810
Ghislaine Maxwell was
one of the recruiters
510
00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:24,858
of the underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein.
511
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:27,033
The other recruiters that were identified
512
00:32:27,111 --> 00:32:28,571
were Sarah Kellen,
513
00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,365
Nadia Marcinkova,
514
00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:31,908
Adriana Mucinska,
515
00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:34,291
and we just started tracking
516
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:39,039
if this person, which name is
not identified right now,
517
00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:41,253
was an underage girl.
518
00:32:41,626 --> 00:32:42,706
"Who did you bring?"
519
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,514
And then from that person
we would bridge down,
520
00:32:45,588 --> 00:32:46,668
"How many did you bring?"
521
00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:49,546
And she would name
the other five or six people.
522
00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:53,104
This was something
that we assembled in about 30 days
523
00:32:53,179 --> 00:32:57,349
and realized that this chart could go off
like a spider web
524
00:32:57,433 --> 00:33:01,063
for, you know,
five times as big as this chart.
525
00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:06,480
[McCawley] So at the top of
the pyramid scheme was Ghislaine Maxwell,
526
00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:08,527
who was really Epstein's right-hand person
527
00:33:08,611 --> 00:33:11,741
with helping to recruit
these individuals for sexual abuse.
528
00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:16,616
[Vicky Ward] Jeffrey and Ghislaine
met in New York.
529
00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:21,172
Jeffrey Epstein's really an introvert.
530
00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:27,881
Ghislaine is a much more charming person
than Jeffrey is.
531
00:33:27,964 --> 00:33:29,094
She's an extrovert.
532
00:33:29,924 --> 00:33:33,514
I think he revels in being
this man of mystery,
533
00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:37,520
who almost can't be bothered
to dress properly.
534
00:33:37,598 --> 00:33:39,808
He can't be bothered to go to restaurants,
535
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,270
and he likes the sort of intrigue
that that creates about him.
536
00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:46,690
Ghislaine is a very engaging person.
537
00:33:46,774 --> 00:33:49,864
She's extremely charismatic and bubbly.
538
00:33:51,362 --> 00:33:56,832
Her father, Robert Maxwell, had been
an incredibly big figure in England.
539
00:33:57,201 --> 00:34:00,251
He was a big newspaper publisher.
540
00:34:00,663 --> 00:34:04,293
In fact, he'd been something of a con man
and a fraudster,
541
00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:06,125
but he'd lived a huge life.
542
00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:11,381
When Ghislaine came to New York,
543
00:34:11,466 --> 00:34:14,176
her whole world had fallen apart.
544
00:34:14,761 --> 00:34:19,641
Her father,
who she was incredibly attached to...
545
00:34:20,349 --> 00:34:23,389
had died in very murky circumstances,
546
00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:27,228
and also his entire reputation
had been shattered.
547
00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:35,110
Jeffrey, in a way, felt like a safe haven
for her. Here was...
548
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:40,830
another very rich man
to sort of replace her father.
549
00:34:45,041 --> 00:34:49,841
[sinister music]
550
00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:58,386
[man] I've been covering Wall Street
since at least 1991.
551
00:34:59,388 --> 00:35:03,268
You know, Jeffrey Epstein was
always someone whose name popped up,
552
00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:05,728
but I couldn't really nail it down.
553
00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:07,147
He was a cipher.
554
00:35:08,648 --> 00:35:11,108
People I know on Wall Street leave trails.
555
00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:13,397
His trail was elusive.
556
00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:16,738
So it was just sort of odd
that here was this guy
557
00:35:16,823 --> 00:35:19,033
that people talked about a lot,
558
00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:21,655
that didn't have much of a footprint
in the investment world.
559
00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:26,867
That's the mystery of Jeffrey Epstein.
You know, how did he make money?
560
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,300
[man] I deeply regret
561
00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:37,295
that I met Jeffrey Epstein,
562
00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:42,273
who is somebody that has haunted me
for over 30 years.
563
00:35:43,766 --> 00:35:47,306
Without me, he wouldn't beÂ
the billionaire he is today,
564
00:35:47,395 --> 00:35:49,805
and these poor girls would not be raped.
565
00:35:49,897 --> 00:35:54,817
And I'm here for redemption
and to tell the story to the public.
566
00:35:55,778 --> 00:35:56,948
[car horn beeping]
567
00:35:59,699 --> 00:36:02,159
[Steven Hoffenberg]
I met Jeff Epstein in the '80s
568
00:36:02,952 --> 00:36:06,252
after he was thrown out of Bear Stearns.
569
00:36:06,914 --> 00:36:10,334
I was the CEO
of Towers Financial Corporation.
570
00:36:12,962 --> 00:36:18,342
[Ward] Steve Hoffenberg
and Jeffrey were both self-made guys.
571
00:36:18,759 --> 00:36:23,009
But when Jeffrey met him,
Hoffenberg was the sort of... the mogul.
572
00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:27,187
He was the one flying around
in private planes.
573
00:36:27,268 --> 00:36:30,348
He was the one with the wealth.
574
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,610
[Hoffenberg]
The CEO of a very large company
575
00:36:35,693 --> 00:36:38,453
who had employed Jeffrey Epstein in Europe
576
00:36:38,821 --> 00:36:41,701
called me and said,
"This is a brilliant man
577
00:36:41,782 --> 00:36:44,992
that we'd like you to interview
for North America
578
00:36:45,411 --> 00:36:50,251
because he has credentials on Wall Street,
and he's loaded with energy,
579
00:36:50,541 --> 00:36:53,041
but his moral compass is upside down."
580
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,380
Jeffrey Epstein had cheated
and stolen money on his expense account.
581
00:37:00,259 --> 00:37:02,889
He definitely appealed to us,
582
00:37:02,970 --> 00:37:05,970
because we were running a Ponzi scheme.
[chuckles]
583
00:37:06,807 --> 00:37:08,177
And he understood Wall Street,
584
00:37:08,267 --> 00:37:14,607
and he could deliver substantial results
in this criminal enterprise.
585
00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:21,531
So I interviewed Jeffrey Epstein,
and he took control of the interview.
586
00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:25,534
He's got a gift that's extraordinary,
587
00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:28,788
where he controls the people he meets
588
00:37:28,871 --> 00:37:32,421
and manipulates them totally
with his charisma.
589
00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:49,601
[Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein became
my partner in crime,
590
00:37:49,684 --> 00:37:52,854
backing me up, leading the advance,
591
00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:57,147
doing the crimes alongside me daily.
592
00:37:57,650 --> 00:38:01,320
He took over the securities side,
593
00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:03,821
the fake assets side.
594
00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:06,025
He was manipulating stock price
595
00:38:06,575 --> 00:38:08,735
and trading stock illegally.
596
00:38:11,414 --> 00:38:16,044
[Ward] People involved
certainly remembered Jeffrey
597
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:19,837
as being incredibly important in coming up
598
00:38:20,214 --> 00:38:22,434
with how the scheme would work.
599
00:38:24,343 --> 00:38:27,933
Then the law caught up
to this massive scam.
600
00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:34,734
[Hoffenberg] I stood up, plead guilty,
and accepted the responsibility.
601
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:38,436
My sentence was
for 20 years in federal prison...
602
00:38:39,775 --> 00:38:43,395
and I didn't turn evidence against him
603
00:38:43,487 --> 00:38:48,367
because Jeffrey Epstein
told me he was a cooperating witness
604
00:38:48,451 --> 00:38:51,581
for the United States
Department of Justice in the past
605
00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:54,076
and he had traction with them.
606
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:59,880
I believe that Jeffrey Epstein
would have been able to discredit me
607
00:38:59,962 --> 00:39:03,802
and say he was the White Knight
and he was immaculate,
608
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,800
and I knew that was his plan.
609
00:39:08,637 --> 00:39:13,887
You can't grasp the magnitude
of this man's controlling effect.
610
00:39:13,976 --> 00:39:18,976
Jeffrey Epstein was able to control
and manipulate people
611
00:39:19,523 --> 00:39:21,613
in an extreme method.
612
00:39:22,818 --> 00:39:24,568
That was typical Jeffrey Epstein.
613
00:39:25,571 --> 00:39:28,701
It's very clear that
that is Jeffrey's MO,
614
00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:33,953
is to hold things over people,
hold their secrets over people, I suspect.
615
00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:36,333
Um, you know, there's a pattern here.
616
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:43,165
[Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein's methods
started with Leslie Wexner
617
00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:47,716
when Jeffrey Epstein sold
his soul to Leslie Wexner
618
00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:50,142
for several billion dollars of investment.
619
00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:04,398
[man] Jeff Epstein met Les Wexner
somewhere around 1986.
620
00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:11,533
This is Mr. Wexner's gate house,
621
00:40:11,992 --> 00:40:15,202
and beyond that gate house is
a massive compound
622
00:40:15,287 --> 00:40:19,207
and the most expensive house
in central Ohio.
623
00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:25,967
Les Wexner started out in 1963
624
00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:30,512
opening the women's fashion
apparel shop, The Limited.
625
00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:34,140
Les bought various other brands,
626
00:40:34,765 --> 00:40:38,015
Abercrombie & Fitch
and Victoria's Secret.
627
00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:42,313
Through all of that,
became a multi-billionaire.
628
00:40:43,315 --> 00:40:47,815
At some point,Â
Les Wexner provided a power of attorney
629
00:40:47,903 --> 00:40:51,743
to Jeffrey Epstein
over his financial affairs.
630
00:40:53,075 --> 00:40:57,955
I was astonished
because Les Wexner is not the kind of guy
631
00:40:58,038 --> 00:41:01,498
who gives up control over anything.
632
00:41:02,042 --> 00:41:04,962
Epstein was this Svengali figure
633
00:41:05,045 --> 00:41:09,175
that seems to have
some unexplainable grip,
634
00:41:09,258 --> 00:41:11,588
uh, over this titan of industry.
635
00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:16,639
There are people in the late '80s,
early '90s
636
00:41:16,724 --> 00:41:20,194
that referred to EpsteinÂ
as "the boyfriend."
637
00:41:22,229 --> 00:41:27,029
[Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein was working
with both of us at the same time.
638
00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:31,992
He was going to Ohio regularly on a jet
639
00:41:32,072 --> 00:41:35,532
that was provided to Jeffrey
by Leslie Wexner.
640
00:41:37,203 --> 00:41:41,253
Epstein explained to me personally
641
00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:47,672
that he could control the emotions
of Leslie Wexner easily
642
00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:51,257
because Leslie Wexner was fascinated
643
00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:54,852
and Wexner totally adored Epstein.
644
00:41:55,846 --> 00:41:58,016
[Edwards]
Do you consider yourself to be bisexual?
645
00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:00,773
-No.
-[Edwards] Okay.
646
00:42:01,852 --> 00:42:05,312
In any even, you did develop
a sexual relationship
647
00:42:05,397 --> 00:42:08,147
with Leslie Wexner at some point in time,
is that true?
648
00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:09,074
No.
649
00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:16,160
[Hoffenberg] Epstein told me
how he planned to manipulate and control
650
00:42:16,242 --> 00:42:20,082
Leslie Wexner's fortune
of billions of dollars
651
00:42:20,412 --> 00:42:25,172
so that Jeffrey Epstein could invest
652
00:42:25,459 --> 00:42:28,709
and make substantial income.
653
00:42:41,433 --> 00:42:43,893
In 2019, Les Wexner revealed
654
00:42:43,978 --> 00:42:46,978
that he had cut ties with Epstein
back in 2007.
655
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:52,315
He said he discovered Epstein had stolen
more than 46 million dollars from him.
656
00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:54,363
He didn't explain
why he didn't press charges.
657
00:42:56,365 --> 00:42:58,075
[Les Wexner] Being taken advantage of
658
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:02,286
by someone who was, uh, so sick,
659
00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:05,081
so cunning, uh, so depraved...
660
00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:06,421
uhm...
661
00:43:06,875 --> 00:43:10,665
is something that I'm embarrassed
that I was even close to.
662
00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:23,519
[sinister music]
663
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,570
[woman] I was, uh, a model and actress.
664
00:43:30,649 --> 00:43:32,189
[man] Alicia! What's up?
665
00:43:32,735 --> 00:43:34,355
[Alicia Arden] When my friend said,
666
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:37,735
"This guy can get you
in the Victoria's Secret catalog,"
667
00:43:37,823 --> 00:43:38,953
I jumped.
668
00:43:40,409 --> 00:43:45,619
Jeffrey Epstein was staying at Shutters
hotel in Santa Monica, California.
669
00:43:45,706 --> 00:43:47,876
So I met him at his hotel room.
670
00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:51,420
He said he knowsÂ
the owner of Victoria's Secret.
671
00:43:51,837 --> 00:43:55,377
So he started opening
my portfolio of pictures...
672
00:43:56,342 --> 00:43:57,642
and then he said,
673
00:43:57,718 --> 00:43:59,848
"Let me see you in your bra
and underwear."
674
00:43:59,928 --> 00:44:05,308
Then he started putting his hands on me
and my hips and my butt.
675
00:44:06,685 --> 00:44:11,105
I really felt at the time
that I was going to be raped or attacked.
676
00:44:11,523 --> 00:44:13,483
I ran out of the room crying.
677
00:44:14,985 --> 00:44:18,815
I drove to the Santa Monica
Police Department to file a police report.
678
00:44:21,075 --> 00:44:23,365
I don't remember him
ever being investigated.
679
00:44:23,452 --> 00:44:24,662
No one called me.
680
00:44:26,205 --> 00:44:28,075
He didn't get in trouble over it.
681
00:44:28,540 --> 00:44:32,040
It was like nothing really ever happened.
682
00:44:48,227 --> 00:44:51,397
[man] I've been a private
investigator now for about ten years,
683
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,650
but I'd say 80% of my job is...
684
00:44:55,567 --> 00:44:57,527
on the street finding information.
685
00:44:58,612 --> 00:45:01,532
When I started working on this case
for Brad Edwards,
686
00:45:02,282 --> 00:45:07,002
he told me that the FBI is doing
a parallel case,
687
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,959
but they really don't have much.
688
00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:11,916
It was just really going along slow.
689
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,300
I'm a fan of the FBI.
I work very closely with them.
690
00:45:16,922 --> 00:45:19,512
So I said, "Well, okay.
Maybe I can speed it up for them."
691
00:45:20,092 --> 00:45:22,762
I had one daughter at the time
when I started working the case
692
00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:24,005
who was 21,
693
00:45:24,596 --> 00:45:27,016
and one daughter was 15.
694
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,770
It didn't only make me think
about my own daughters,
695
00:45:31,854 --> 00:45:34,824
it made me think about all the years
I spent in law enforcement
696
00:45:34,898 --> 00:45:40,398
that I had to interview abused girls
or girls that were victims of a pedophile
697
00:45:40,738 --> 00:45:43,278
and how broken these girls became.
698
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:51,750
These are the girls that I have been able
to identify myself that were victims,
699
00:45:52,124 --> 00:45:54,334
thirteen, and 14, and 15 years old.
700
00:45:54,793 --> 00:45:56,883
As you can see,
there's a volume of them.
701
00:45:58,338 --> 00:46:01,758
I started going to the depressed areas
of West Palm Beach,
702
00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:03,552
to these neighborhoods,
703
00:46:03,635 --> 00:46:05,595
and I would meet someone,
704
00:46:06,096 --> 00:46:09,476
or one of the girls that Brad
was representing would know someone,
705
00:46:09,558 --> 00:46:10,888
give me a lead,
706
00:46:10,976 --> 00:46:15,266
and that's how I started finding girl
after girl after girl.
707
00:46:16,565 --> 00:46:20,485
I think I must have foundÂ
like 46 other girls that were assaulted.
708
00:46:21,028 --> 00:46:23,738
Some of the victims were very reluctant
to talk to me,
709
00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:26,122
but I was at least able
to get their names,
710
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,750
who they were and where they lived,
which I later gave to the FBI.
711
00:46:29,828 --> 00:46:33,208
[sinister music]
712
00:46:37,461 --> 00:46:38,501
Everybody feared him,
713
00:46:38,587 --> 00:46:42,587
and fear was his greatest asset.
714
00:46:42,674 --> 00:46:45,054
I mean,
that's what gave him his power.
715
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:49,520
So I took it upon myself
as civil prosecutor,
716
00:46:49,598 --> 00:46:53,268
and I served Jeffrey Epstein
for a deposition
717
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,229
and tried to achieve justiceÂ
for the victims.
718
00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:00,936
[Edwards] Mr. Epstein,
how long have you beenÂ
719
00:47:01,026 --> 00:47:04,276
sexually attracted
to underage minor females?
720
00:47:04,988 --> 00:47:07,238
[lawyer] Objection.
Harassing, argumentative.
721
00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:08,414
Are you kidding?
722
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,999
[Edwards] No, I mean, I don't feel like
I'm divulging any secrets here, right?
723
00:47:16,834 --> 00:47:17,924
[lawyer] Move to strike.
724
00:47:19,711 --> 00:47:23,631
I was starting to really get
on Jeffrey Epstein's nerves for sure.
725
00:47:23,715 --> 00:47:25,875
There's no doubt. Was I trying to?
726
00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:27,215
I guess so.
727
00:47:29,054 --> 00:47:30,014
[Edwards] Mr. Epstein?
728
00:47:30,097 --> 00:47:30,927
Yeah.
729
00:47:31,515 --> 00:47:33,805
[Edwards]
Were you sexually abused as a minor?
730
00:47:35,936 --> 00:47:36,976
Wait, say that again?
731
00:47:37,354 --> 00:47:39,654
[Edwards]
Were you sexually abused as a minor?
732
00:47:39,898 --> 00:47:43,278
[sighs] You know, I'd like to...
Again, I'd like to respond to all your...
733
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,570
If any questions seem to be relevant,
734
00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:48,914
but I would like to respond
to any relevant question at this time.
735
00:47:48,991 --> 00:47:52,291
However, my attorneys have counseled me
that I cannot provide answers
736
00:47:52,369 --> 00:47:54,749
to the questions relevant
to this lawsuit today.
737
00:47:55,205 --> 00:47:58,205
I must accept their advice
or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right
738
00:47:58,292 --> 00:47:59,882
to effective representation.
739
00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:04,554
Accordingly then, I assert my Fifth,
Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights
740
00:48:04,631 --> 00:48:06,381
in the United States Constitution.
741
00:48:14,182 --> 00:48:15,232
[Mike Fisten] Pretty soon,
742
00:48:15,309 --> 00:48:18,649
Epstein's investigators started
conducting surveillance on Brad.
743
00:48:19,187 --> 00:48:21,897
They were trying to find out
744
00:48:21,982 --> 00:48:26,112
if they can catch Brad doing
anything wrong after hours,
745
00:48:26,194 --> 00:48:28,954
during hours, then try to blackmail him.
746
00:48:31,033 --> 00:48:32,123
But then,
747
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,000
it became intimidation because
they started surveilling Brad's house,
748
00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:38,165
where his wife and kids live.
749
00:48:39,082 --> 00:48:42,382
[Edwards] When my wife noticed that
somebody was following her, I thought,
750
00:48:42,461 --> 00:48:45,921
"Okay, it's just getting out of hand.
Now that's my family."
751
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,510
He tried to intimidate me
into just abandoning my clients,
752
00:48:50,802 --> 00:48:53,562
which I was never going to do.
That was never going to happen.
753
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,600
[Reiter] They were investigating
the victims as well.
754
00:48:58,685 --> 00:49:01,605
We had several victims report to us that
755
00:49:01,688 --> 00:49:07,148
people posing as law enforcement officers
were contacting the victims and...
756
00:49:08,028 --> 00:49:10,198
in some cases, intimidating them.
757
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,700
[sinister music]
758
00:49:16,536 --> 00:49:17,866
[Rivera] I started noticing
759
00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:20,535
there were cars
that would sit at the end of my street.
760
00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:23,464
I had these people constantly watching me.
761
00:49:24,336 --> 00:49:27,706
So I called my attorney,
and I told him what was going on.
762
00:49:28,131 --> 00:49:29,171
Brad figured out
763
00:49:29,257 --> 00:49:32,547
that most of these vehicles
were actually private investigators
764
00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:34,676
that were following and watching me.
765
00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:37,643
While she was sleeping in her bed,
766
00:49:37,724 --> 00:49:39,854
Jeffrey Epstein's investigators
set their car up
767
00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:41,435
across the street from her house,
768
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,900
and just shined their bright lights
through her window all night.
769
00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:50,356
[Rivera] So Brad sent Mike Fisten over.
770
00:49:50,779 --> 00:49:53,869
They had this private investigator war,
771
00:49:53,949 --> 00:49:57,079
cameras against one another,
recording each other.
772
00:49:57,619 --> 00:49:59,789
[Fisten] When I showed up,
he was still here.
773
00:49:59,871 --> 00:50:01,421
I took pictures of his car,
774
00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:03,920
and then I took pictures of him
in his car.
775
00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:06,496
With me there looking at him,
776
00:50:07,045 --> 00:50:08,375
he's still videotaping.
777
00:50:09,715 --> 00:50:11,925
It was really... It was kind of scary.
778
00:50:12,467 --> 00:50:16,217
Mike puts me in his car and he says,
"We're going to get out of here."
779
00:50:16,304 --> 00:50:17,604
[Fisten] Don't follow her.
780
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:24,859
[Rivera] And he drove me like hours
down south and like put me in a hotel,
781
00:50:25,355 --> 00:50:28,275
where I hid
and was basically just told like,
782
00:50:28,358 --> 00:50:30,688
"Your family's going to be safer
if you're not home
783
00:50:30,777 --> 00:50:33,697
because they're not gonna...
harass you now."
784
00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:38,742
Why do I have to make my family...
785
00:50:39,661 --> 00:50:44,421
safe from somebody
who should be sitting in jail?
786
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
[insects buzzing and chirping]
787
00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:52,472
[birds chirping]
788
00:51:00,265 --> 00:51:02,095
[Reiter]
This was a cooperative investigation
789
00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:04,904
between the FBI
and the US attorney's office.
790
00:51:05,395 --> 00:51:08,475
Although we were not
an official partner to the investigation,
791
00:51:08,565 --> 00:51:09,975
they kept us informed.
792
00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:13,857
We cooperated, we introduced them
to the victims that we knew of,
793
00:51:14,112 --> 00:51:17,202
we gave them
all of the background information,
794
00:51:17,282 --> 00:51:20,872
and what's written between the lines
that doesn't appear in a report.
795
00:51:21,828 --> 00:51:25,168
[Fisten] The agent on the case,
Kuyrkendall, is a great agent.
796
00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:30,166
And she put together this case
against this pedophile
797
00:51:30,670 --> 00:51:35,220
that was going to put him in prison
the rest of his life
798
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:37,510
if he just gets convicted of one count.
799
00:51:37,594 --> 00:51:40,724
The government had a plethora
of information at their fingertips.
800
00:51:40,806 --> 00:51:44,266
They had 35 to 40 different victims
that were willing to give testimony.
801
00:51:44,851 --> 00:51:48,561
They had information showing victims
being transported across state lines,
802
00:51:48,647 --> 00:51:51,607
whether it be in private planes
or on commercial flights.
803
00:51:51,691 --> 00:51:54,951
So, they had
a 53-page indictment prepared
804
00:51:55,362 --> 00:51:57,862
because they had
just an immense amount of information
805
00:51:57,948 --> 00:51:59,778
that they could charge Epstein with.
806
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:04,499
[Reiter] I asked
for an appointment with Alex Acosta.
807
00:52:04,579 --> 00:52:08,379
Alex Acosta at the time
was the US attorney.
808
00:52:09,751 --> 00:52:14,171
I met with him and his team
in Mr. Acosta's office.
809
00:52:14,256 --> 00:52:18,336
I told them that I would like to know
from them
810
00:52:18,426 --> 00:52:21,386
that they were going
to prosecute this case,
811
00:52:21,471 --> 00:52:26,391
and follow through with it,
and, uh, get justice for the victims.
812
00:52:26,977 --> 00:52:29,897
I left my meeting
with Alex Acosta thinking
813
00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:33,320
that Jeffrey Epstein would go to jail
for the rest of his life.
814
00:52:34,359 --> 00:52:37,699
[sinister music]
815
00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:43,331
The case had been turned over
to the federal government
816
00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:44,370
for more than two years,
817
00:52:45,078 --> 00:52:46,958
but I hadn't heard anything.
818
00:52:47,289 --> 00:52:51,709
I just want to know what's going on,
so I call and speak with Marie Villafaña
819
00:52:51,793 --> 00:52:53,463
of the US attorney's office,
820
00:52:53,545 --> 00:52:57,585
and she confirmed
that this is a massive case.
821
00:52:57,674 --> 00:53:00,934
I started asking when she thought
a trial was actually going to happen,
822
00:53:01,428 --> 00:53:04,218
and I remember her telling me that,
823
00:53:04,514 --> 00:53:06,314
"There's just a lot that I want
to tell you,
824
00:53:06,391 --> 00:53:10,021
and I know that your heart's
in the right place, and mine is too.
825
00:53:10,103 --> 00:53:13,483
There's a lot that I want to tell you,
Brad, that I can't tell you."
826
00:53:13,940 --> 00:53:16,780
And that's when I started thinking
something was going on.
827
00:53:17,986 --> 00:53:21,736
[Reiter] Suddenly,
when we'd call the FBI agents,
828
00:53:21,823 --> 00:53:23,953
they would tell us
they were forbidden to talk
829
00:53:24,034 --> 00:53:27,204
with any representative of Palm Beach
Police Department about the case.
830
00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:29,867
It's the only time that ever happened
in my 30 years
831
00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:31,496
as a law enforcement officer.
832
00:53:34,669 --> 00:53:37,209
[male reporter]
Epstein's personal 727 aircraft
833
00:53:37,297 --> 00:53:40,337
arrived at PBIA from Newark at 5:00 p.m.
834
00:53:40,592 --> 00:53:42,932
The investor,
traveling with a small entourage,
835
00:53:43,011 --> 00:53:46,811
was met at the private Galaxy Aviation
by a black Escalade and a driver.
836
00:53:47,098 --> 00:53:49,228
Sources tell News Channel 5
that Kenneth Starr,
837
00:53:49,309 --> 00:53:53,189
now a top lawyer in Los Angeles,
will arrive here tomorrow morning.
838
00:53:54,439 --> 00:53:58,859
[Fisten] The US attorney Acosta
met with Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers.
839
00:53:59,819 --> 00:54:03,659
The next thing,
not only was the indictment gone,
840
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:06,120
the FBI case was stopped.
841
00:54:06,201 --> 00:54:08,451
So the FBI agents were shook up...
842
00:54:09,204 --> 00:54:14,084
very upset,
and started voicing their opposition...
843
00:54:14,793 --> 00:54:16,213
to what had occurred.
844
00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:20,300
[Maria Farmer] The FBI agent,
Nesbitt Kuyrkendall,
845
00:54:20,382 --> 00:54:22,012
I was so impressed by her.
846
00:54:22,092 --> 00:54:25,892
She was very dedicated
to the women in Florida.
847
00:54:26,554 --> 00:54:29,984
She called me really upset one day,
and she said,
848
00:54:30,058 --> 00:54:33,978
"Maria, I know you're hesitant
about testifying because you're afraid,
849
00:54:34,312 --> 00:54:36,732
and I just want you to know
I don't know if it'll even matter
850
00:54:36,815 --> 00:54:39,025
'cause things are really falling apart."
851
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:42,029
I contacted Kuyrkendall myself,
and she was in tears.
852
00:54:42,112 --> 00:54:47,282
She was actually crying on the phone,
in tears, that this happened.
853
00:54:47,617 --> 00:54:49,867
She felt so bad for these victims
854
00:54:49,953 --> 00:54:53,253
because she told these victims
she's going to put this guy away.
855
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:59,460
Nobody knows why US Attorney Acosta
shut this case down.
856
00:55:00,964 --> 00:55:02,844
To me, that's bullshit.
70250