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Yes, Mr. .
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- Hello?
- Hi, how are you?
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I'm good. I'm returning your call,
I apologize. I don't know what for.
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It's okay.
It was an incident that occurred
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maybe three and a half weeks ago
with one of my stepdaughters.
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One day at school, she got into a fight,
and she had over $300 on her.
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So after asking her and asking her
what was going on,
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I found out that it ended up being that
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they went to Palm Beach
to a gentleman's house.
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And they start off
by giving this gentleman a massage.
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And he pays them.
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If he likes them
and thinks that they're pretty enough,
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-he keeps them around to do other things.
- Okay.
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So I wasn't quite sureÂ
if there was an investigation
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or if you guys had any word--
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Well, this is the first
I'm hearing of it.
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- Okay.
- I'll need some more information.
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Would your stepdaughter
be willing to come in
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to provide me with a statement?
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I appreciate you coming down
to talk to me.
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-You're not in any trouble.
- Okay.
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I want to put that out there
right now.
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-How did you meet Mr. Epstein?
- Through a friend.
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It was like two years ago or so.
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About two years ago?
That's when you first met him?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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- You were 17 then?
- Mm-hmm.
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What is it that you were told
you would have to do?
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- Give him a massage.
- Okay.
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During the massage,
did he... um...
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ask you to remove your pants or...
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Yes.
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What else happened
when you were providing the massage?
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He took the towel off,
and he started pleasing himself,
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which I was very uncomfortable with.
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-I wanted to leave right when I got there.
- Okay.
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Okay. First of all,
I know this is hard on you, okay?
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Just take a deep breath.
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I'm trying. It's just...
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I wasn't aware that I was going to be
alone with him for that ten minutes.
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And I thought I was gonna die.
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Did you have intercourse
with him?
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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Can you raise your right hand?
Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth,
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the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth,
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-so help you God?
- I do.
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- State your name for the record.
-Michelle Licata.
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All right. In your own words,
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tell me exactly
how you were introduced to this gentleman
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by the name of Jeffrey
in, uh... Palm Beach.
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Um... My friend told me
in class that...
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she could find a way of making money
for Christmas.
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I didn't really know
what she was talking about,
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but I was like, "Okay."
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And what are we gonna do?
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We're gonna shop!
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She said to just go
to this old guy's house
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and just massage him for 45 minutes,
and you'll get like $200.
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- Okay. How old were you?
- Sixteen.
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Okay.
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And then he sort of grabbed
my thighs, and he was...
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jacking himself off at the same time.
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He just tried, like,
rubbing me down there.
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Okay.
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I backed away, and I said,
"Well, I don't know if I should do that."
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And I freaked.
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I was very hesitant and so scared.
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As I told you before
and I explained to your mom,
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what he did was wrong, okay?
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- Okay.
- Um...
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I want to reassure you
on that, okay?
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I know this
is difficult for you,
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and I know it was difficult for you
to talk to me today.
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Is there anything else you'd like to add
to this statement?
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No.
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Okay.
Then I conclude this statement.
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The time on my watch is 5:25 p.m.
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- Good morning, Mr. Alessi?
-Yes, speaking.
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Hi. This is Detective Joe Recarey
with Palm Beach Police.
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I'm investigating a case
against, uh, a former employer of yours,
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Jeffrey Epstein.
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This is something
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that I really would not like
to be involved,
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-if I'm not involved with it.
- I understand that,
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but you may hold some information
which would assist me in this case.
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But I don't want to get
in trouble or...
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I don't want to get sued
by Mr. Epstein or by his company.
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You are Alfredo Rodriguez,
correct?
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- Yes, that's me.
- Okay.
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I just wanted to touch base with a case
that I'm investigating
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involving Mr. Epstein.
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Okay.
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My main concern, obviously, is
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the girls that come over to work for him.
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Okay.
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What can you tell me about that?
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He has a lot of masseuses.
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He has a list of favorite, uh...
female personnel
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to give him massage, you know.
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So he gets massage in the morning,
massage in the afternoon.
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They were very private, sir, you know.
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So I didn't know
what went on behind closed doors.
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It was my job to keep everything discreet.
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So...
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Would you
say these girls were young?
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Um...
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Oof, you put me on the spot, sir.
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Did he touch you?
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Does he use his hands?
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He uses his hand,
and I guess it's like a vibrator.
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But, um...
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I refused to do that.
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- Just to bring a girl?
- Yeah.
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The girl that was going
knew she would have to massage him.
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She knew everything.
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How long
have you been working for him?
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I probably worked for him
for a year.
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Those girls brought
other girls, too.
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- Okay.
- So, it's like a train.
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Who else was underage?
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Under 18?
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-All of them.
- All of them?
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All of them.
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All right,
I talked to my boss for a little bit.
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- Which is why I'm here.
- Okay.
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At this point, you've clearly
implicated yourself in a crime.
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Okay? You've taken girls
to somebody's house
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for the purpose of prostitution.
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More importantly, and more significantly,
one of those girls was 14 at the time.
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Okay? Now that's a pretty significant
second-degree felony.
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This is a complete description
of the residence desired to be searched,
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including the curtilage attached thereof.
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I will leave a list
of what items we're taking.
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