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He'd pull the chair over close to my
bed.
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I could smell the alcohol on his breath.
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He'd begin to read to me from the books
on my shelf, and I was frozen under the
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covers.
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Sometimes he would read to me for so
long, I would think, not tonight.
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Then he'd set the book aside and turn
out the lights.
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And then it was happening again.
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I'd hold my breath as long as I could,
trying to die.
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When he was done, he'd set the book
aside and leave.
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And then I would hear the sound of my
dad's shower coming on.
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It was always the same.
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I was five years old the first time it
happened.
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And it didn't end until my mother and
brother and I moved away.
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I was six.
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And if you asked me what my father read
to me those nights before he raped me...
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I couldn't say.
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I never heard a word.
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Well, the last time I was abused, I was
eight.
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And I confronted him when I was 28, so
20 years.
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And it's been the hardest thing I've
ever done in my life by far.
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He just sat there and denied the whole
thing.
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I kept it to myself for 12 years.
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I'm 25 now. I was 12 then.
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I didn't tell a soul about it.
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As a matter of fact, this will be the
first time I'm telling anybody right
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Did you see the faces of the jury?
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He's going to jail. Yeah, but it's not
over.
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We'll go after her.
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She's only going to make them madder
than they already are.
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My mom.
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Just a little shaky. Your stepdad took
her home.
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You were fantastic.
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It hadn't been for you and Jenny.
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Hey, no.
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You did this all on your own.
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I don't think so.
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When I came into your station a year
ago, I was convinced that no one would
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care. Thank God I was wrong.
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Ty, you all right?
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You're a little late for brotherly
concern, isn't it, Ron?
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Look, can we talk?
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Alone? I'm sure you'll have plenty to
say when they call you to testify for
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defense. What, you want me to lie?
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Huh? They saw something I never did? No,
I expected you to believe me.
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And now I just want you to go away.
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I don't even know him anymore.
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Counsel.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, it
seems we have a situation.
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The case before us was filed in
accordance with the California law
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1993 that extended the statute of
limitations for the prosecution
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of charges of sexual abuse against
children.
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It also made these charges retroactive
for the crimes committed before the law
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was enacted.
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as in this case.
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That section of the statute has just now
been struck down by the United States
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Supreme Court in Stogner v.
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California.
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Under the circumstances, I have no
recourse but to dismiss the charges
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Cale Gilman.
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Mr. Gilman, you're free to go.
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The jury is released.
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Thank you.
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You can't!
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I'll kill you!
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I swear I'll kill you!
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In my family, there was domestic
violence going on for 26 years,
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and I was witness to that abuse. It was
family secret, so you
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weren't really allowed to...
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talk about it it didn't go outside the
household there's somebody that we can
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call to keep you company tonight just
want to go to sleep i just want to wake
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tomorrow and have it be a new day dan we
could take you home it's really no
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trouble i'm fine well you don't seem
fine one day in prison
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it's all i wanted for him to have to
walk in there that first day and realize
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was totally helpless
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and totally alone, and there was no
escape.
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I want him to feel how I feel.
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Diane, please don't lose sight of what
you did.
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You faced him in court, and you brought
out the truth. That's right. You've
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exposed him for what he is, and he'll
have to live with that.
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My father, the only thing he'll have to
live with is knowing that he won.
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Unbelievable.
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Why don't they just open up all the damn
prisons and let all the perverts out?
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We just did.
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The brain caught my ass.
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How the brain is this nonsense?
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I can't believe that they actually
expected a five -year -old abused child
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walk into a police station and file a
complaint.
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They don't live in the real world.
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They live in D .C. All right, we're
angry. But there's not a damn thing we
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do about it. It's the way the system
works.
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It took Diane Evans 20 years to work up
the courage to walk in here and ask us
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to help her fight back, and now we're
supposed to tell her that's the way the
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system works?
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Yeah.
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And that goes for everyone else with
cases pending and every felon convicted
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under the old California law.
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Get over it.
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Get used to the fact they're not felons
anymore.
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How many get -out -of -jail -free cars,
Captain?
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500 -plus by the time the dust clears.
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May they all burn in hell.
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So, how did... I got a phone call from a
probation officer who
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wanted to know if Ralph Baker was the
subject of an investigation.
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I told him no, and he said that your
name was on file for having requested a
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copy of Baker's rap sheet.
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Oh.
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There was no next of kin listed, so...
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I had them send over his personal
effects.
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This is it?
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Well, his clothing and household items
had already been given to charity.
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He said heart attack.
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Death was instantaneous.
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He wasn't that old, just in his late
50s.
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Hard years.
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Yeah, well, brought that on himself
after he raped my mother.
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What am I supposed to do with this
stuff?
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Keep it?
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Burn it? It's up to you.
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Okay. Burn it.
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You're a capperty.
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When?
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Okay.
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We're on it.
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Homicide.
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You want me to need to take it? She
didn't have your primaries, but I'd get
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over there.
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The victim is Diane Evans' father, Cale
Gilman.
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So we think the window was broken
sometime after the murder.
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Popular guy.
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Dear Mr. Fifi, stick your head in the
toilet and drown.
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Everlasting torment shall rain down upon
you, and your flesh shall be turned to
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ash, and your blood turned to rust.
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Those were two of the nicer ones.
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Where is he?
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He's in the master bedroom down this
hallway. Oh, first row on the right.
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Have you guys been here before?
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I ain't described this place so many
times, it burns into our brains.
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You're telling me that this is the same
house where the rapes happened 20 -some
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-odd years ago?
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Even after his wife took the kids and
left, Gilman never moved.
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Shot with his own gun.
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It looked like one round at close range
to the face.
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What face?
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Any prints on the gun?
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Nope, wiped clean.
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Crime scenes processed in the rest of
the house. And he said he's been dead
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approximately eight hours.
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How'd they get in?
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Pried open the screens of his window
over here, but from the inside.
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Ah, faked.
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So no forced entry. Yeah, no signs of
struggle, nothing obvious stolen.
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Gilman was probably asleep.
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So whoever it was knew the house.
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They had access and knew where the gun
was. Have you contacted the daughter
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We tried. We can't find her yet.
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The guy starts out his day looking at a
slam -dunk child rape conviction.
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Then he catches the break of the
century.
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Then suddenly he's dead.
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What's your point?
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To the outside world, we look like a
happy family.
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But there was so much abuse going on
that it was very
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hard to keep up appearances.
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And I think that when you have to live a
lie, I think that it does something to
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your soul.
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There you are.
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What's that?
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Oh, this is just my book of memory.
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My grandma helped me make it when I was
11.
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She died last spring, my grandma.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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Thanks. Oh, I haven't looked at this in
so long.
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Who's that?
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That is Eleanor, my oldest sister, and
that is Sissy.
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Sissy? Are you serious? Yes, I'm
serious. It's short for Clarissa.
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She's older than I.
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And this is Major Ruth.
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That's my little Major Rue.
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Speaking of Major Rue, I'm going to go
to the ditches.
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Are you making fun of me? No.
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We just led different lives, that's all.
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I know.
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I think that's what makes it so
interesting.
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The car is gone.
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No one has seen or heard from her since
she left the courthouse two nights ago,
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including her mother and stepfather.
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So she leaves the courthouse, ends up in
her old neighborhood, waits around a
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little while for the old man to show up,
waits even more for the lights to go
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out, sneaks into the house, finds a
shotgun.
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Bang. Justice is served.
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We don't know for sure that it was
Diane.
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There's a lot of people who would love
to blow this guy away. Yeah, but until
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learn otherwise, she's our best bet. I'm
releasing her picture to the media.
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I'm wondering if you're questioning.
What else?
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Diane's brother is coming in today to ID
the body.
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Apparently, he drove Gilman home after
the trial. Maybe the last person to see
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his father alive.
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Except the killer. Is there a chance Ron
would know where Diane is? They weren't
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exactly on the best of terms.
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We're heading over to the parents'
house.
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Good. I want to expand the perimeter of
the neighborhood canvas two blocks in
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all directions from the Gilman home.
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Did anyone hear the shot?
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See someone near the house?
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Strange car, though.
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You know, hit all the bases.
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Yeah, that's my father.
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But you already knew that, didn't you?
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Um, and it makes a change. You have to
take what you've done.
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We also need you to answer some
questions, Mr. Evans.
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What?
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What do you want?
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For starters, Diane.
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She didn't do this.
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And you're crazy if you think she'll
tell me where she went.
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Because I'm the traitor.
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I'm an enemy, right?
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You thought of that.
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You pulled the strings and made this
happen.
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Do you actually think we influenced
Diane's story?
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Well, somebody did.
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You even made her believe it.
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You know what? Wake up, Ron.
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Your sister was raped exactly the way
she said she was, and everyone in that
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courtroom believed her, except obviously
you.
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Why is that?
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Loyalty to dear old dad?
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You think I give a damn about that S .O
.B.? I remember, too.
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I remember him slapping my mother down
the stairs.
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and then beating me with a belt when I
tried to help her.
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And that was just one time.
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I remember the day we left that house
was the best day of our lives.
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But you sat on his side, and you drove
him home from the trial. There was
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else.
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When I left his house last night, I
figured, over and done with, you know?
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Bye, Dad, I'll see you later.
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Hopefully never.
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Did you know that your father had a
shotgun in the house? Yeah, of course.
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He loved that gun.
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If he ever loved anything.
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Where were you between midnight and 6 a
.m., Ron?
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I was getting drunk.
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In my apartment, by myself.
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I did not kill him.
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But I'm not going to pretend I'm broken
up about it.
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You know, I really can't help you.
You're way off base here.
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Mr. Evans, all we want to do is talk to
your stepdaughter.
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Daughter?
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I adopted Diane and Ron when I married
their mother.
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Is Mrs.
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Evans available?
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She is in bed under doctor's orders. She
has a heart problem.
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And she hasn't spoken to Diane since
that travesty in court. Now, you'll just
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have to trust me on this, all right? How
well did you know Cale Gilman?
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I never met the man.
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And I never wanted to.
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I met Ann and the kid two years after
she and Gilman had broken up, I think.
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knew about the sexual abuse?
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No, and neither did Ann.
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I knew what a cruel bastard he was, but
when Ann first walked
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into my office to apply for a job, I saw
a beautiful, intelligent,
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completely traumatized young woman.
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Earning her trust in Ronna and Diane's
was the hardest, most important thing I
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have ever done in my life.
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Mr. Evans, we're here to help, honestly.
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Well, if Diane contacts me, I'll urge
her to call you.
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Thanks.
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Appreciate your time.
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Police Services Aid, SFPD.
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Sorry to bother you. We're just in the
area talking to people who are... Is
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about Cale Gilman?
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Yes, ma 'am.
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If it was that poor girl that shot him,
Cale deserved what he got.
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And if it was someone else, Cale
probably deserved that, too.
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Sounds like you knew Mr. Gilman.
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We've been next -door neighbors for as
long as he's lived here.
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Neighbors.
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Not neighborly.
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Do you have a problem with him?
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Who didn't?
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You know how on Halloween there's always
one house in the neighborhood the kids
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avoid?
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That was Cale Gilman.
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Ma 'am, did you see anyone or hear any
unusual sound coming from the Gilman's
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property two nights ago?
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Ma 'am, we'll find out anyway.
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I heard a noise I hadn't heard in a very
long time.
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Someone made me happy.
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Cale Gilman's still dead.
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Other than that?
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Well, we've had a few Diane sightings
from the tip line, but nothing's panned
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out. She hasn't used her credit cards,
hasn't written a check, hasn't made a
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cell phone call.
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We searched her apartment, but nothing's
found.
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Friends, boyfriends, co -workers?
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She had an on -off relationship that she
ended when she decided to pursue the
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rape charges against her father.
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You know, she really put her life on
hold for this.
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Your turn.
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We got about a month's worth of work
going through all this hate mail, and I
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think it's a wasted effort. There's no
specific death threats in there. It's
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mainly just insults from...
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people who probably only watch the
coverage of the trial on the news.
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Gilman was seen coming home from court
with Ron at around 8 .15 p .m. Ron was
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seen leaving at 9 p .m., at which point
Gilman was still alive.
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So what we have is someone pretty much
everybody hated, but no real suspects
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other than Diane, who could be halfway
to the border by now. What we can't
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afford is the impression that the police
department is soft -peddling this
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investigation because of our antipathy
for Cal Gilman.
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Not straight from the chief.
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Captain. Ah, Ray of Hope.
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There's this woman named Pauline
Carmichael, and her house was right next
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to the Gilmans.
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And she lived there when Diane and her
brother were growing up.
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One night, they heard this noise coming
from a tool shed that was on the
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Gilmans' property out back near the
fence.
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So Pauline and her husband went out
there, and it was Ron, and he was about
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years old at the time, sobbing his eyes
out.
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The thing that was so strange about this
is that it's 2 in the morning.
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What did they do?
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Nothing, because the thought of knocking
on Kale Gilman's door, besides the fact
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they thought Gilman would just punish
the kid.
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Probably right.
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But this happened again and again and
again for close to a year.
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And then it stopped, and it didn't
happen again until last night.
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Mrs. Carmichael heard crying coming from
the tool shed, and it was Ron.
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Well, Gilman sexually abused one kid.
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Why not the other?
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By the time a person gets to being an
adult, sometimes they become jaded, and
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their hearts close down, and they just
don't think that they'll ever be able to
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get over it. But you can.
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Specifically, doctor, assuming that Ron
Evans was sexually abused as a kid, do
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you think that he really doesn't
remember?
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Or is he covering up?
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It's not an either -or situation.
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Picture a child Ron's age then, someone
who believes in Santa Claus, the monster
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in the closet, and the tooth fairy.
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I mean, if a child can believe the
unbelievable, why not unbelieve the
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intolerable? But his sister remembers
everything.
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In detail.
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And assuming it happened, so does Ron.
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Beneath the surface.
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An anorexic looks in the mirror and sees
fat. The rest of the world sees skin
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and bones. Human beings have an enormous
capacity for self -deception.
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So if Ron were to remember all this
abuse while he was actually with his
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father... Potentially a violent
reaction.
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At the very least, shame and anger.
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The man rapes his son, and the son feels
the guilt.
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If you search Cale Gilman's background,
you might find that he too is a victim.
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The cycle never ends.
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Yeah, it does.
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It ends here.
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But if Ron killed their father, why
would Diane run away?
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God, I'm going to go away.
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So what, you think Diane did it too?
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No, I don't want Diane to have done it
any more than you do.
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It's 9 .23.
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Thank you. I know the company. It's my
locker.
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Then what?
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I'm thinking, what if Diane is not
running away from a murder, but staying
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after what happened at trial?
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Somewhere she knows.
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Somewhere she feels safe.
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Diane?
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How'd you find me?
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We knew you used to volunteer your time
here at the women's shelter.
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One thing about this place, they don't
ask a lot of questions.
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I couldn't stay home alone.
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00:22:14,140 --> 00:22:17,360
Not after... Diane, you had to know that
we were looking for you.
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I wasn't ready to go back.
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I'm sorry.
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Sorry for what?
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For not trusting you.
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I suppose I'm a suspect.
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I mean, I should be. I shot him. Diane,
wait. I stabbed him. I pushed him off a
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building.
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I ran him over in the street with my
car.
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I killed my own father a thousand times
in a thousand ways.
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In my head.
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Been here the whole time, Magda.
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Well, if that's true, Diane, then you
have nothing to worry about.
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I didn't do it.
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As much as I wanted to.
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If I had, it would have made my life
about him again.
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You lose your mind to an extent where
you don't even want to live anymore.
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The incidents, you know, the assailant
takes control of you. You can take it
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back.
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Because you've still got a future, Will.
There's always hope.
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So you admit your father was physically
abusive.
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But you can see how we would assume the
other.
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You people are unbelievable.
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I realize these are personal matters,
okay? Very uncomfortable to discuss, but
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this is a murder investigation.
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00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,600
No, this is harassment.
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If you like, you can file a complaint. I
have the forms in my desk that you can
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fill out after we're done here.
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You're damn right I will file a
complaint.
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So, Ron, are you denying that your
father sexually molested you? That's
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deny it.
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00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:08,360
Look, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but
my father never did that to me or anyone
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00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,740
else. Let's be very clear here, okay?
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00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:15,960
What we're talking about is a possible
motive for murder.
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Go to hell!
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00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:24,000
Please pick that up, Mr. Evans.
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00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:40,760
Diane, she's making her statement.
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00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:43,540
Let's give her a chance to finish before
you go in there with the note.
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00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,200
Are we done here?
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00:24:45,780 --> 00:24:46,780
I'm sorry.
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00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,100
No.
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00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,560
Now, you say you left your father's
house at 9 and didn't return.
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00:24:54,700 --> 00:25:01,300
But you were seen at 11 p .m. that same
night in a backyard utility
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shed on his property.
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And according to our witness, you seemed
upset.
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She's lying.
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The beast is lying.
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00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:13,350
She?
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00:25:17,710 --> 00:25:22,190
Look, you scammed my little sister into
believing she was molested by my father,
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00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:23,450
but it will not work with me!
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00:25:24,550 --> 00:25:27,390
I have no motive, Inspector, for
anything.
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00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:31,030
Note.
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Ron, where are you?
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Back at your father's house later that
evening.
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00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:47,860
Thanks. I'm sorry, we're going to have
to cut this short.
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00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:56,920
Thank you for coming in.
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What about that complaint form?
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Follow me.
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Ron.
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00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,420
I told these idiots you didn't kill
anybody.
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00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,520
Ron, I know.
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00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:16,970
you know what don't you see it's time to
let go let me help
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00:26:16,970 --> 00:26:23,630
you it's not your fault it's
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nobody's fault but his
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Feel the emotion, feel the anger, and
release the rage, release the anger. Sit
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there and cry for two days straight.
It's important. You might think you're
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crazy, but it's important to release
that anger. I'm the medical director of
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emergency services at California
Hospital.
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00:26:45,470 --> 00:26:51,390
I think it's important for men to talk
about sexual assault, and
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men have to set examples for others.
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00:26:57,180 --> 00:27:00,660
And to say that this is not acceptable
behavior.
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00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:04,000
We'd just gotten back from court.
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00:27:06,420 --> 00:27:08,300
And my father offers me a beer.
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00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:17,060
That was the first... First time I'd
ever seen him in a good mood.
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00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,680
What happened?
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He comes back with a beer and... And a
shotgun.
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00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:36,040
And he cleaned and loaded it right in
front of me, telling me about
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how many death threats that he's had.
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00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:41,900
Did he threaten you with a gun, Ron?
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00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,020
I've been in my father's house, seen his
gun over 20 years.
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00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:57,320
But it all came back to me.
449
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,040
What did?
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00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,520
Wasn't like Diane.
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00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,520
Not for me.
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There weren't any bedtime stories.
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When he came into my room, he'd bring
his shotgun and
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he'd set it up against the door.
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00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:36,260
And then he'd tell me that if I ever...
If I ever made any noise or...
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If I ever... If I ever told anyone about
it, that he'd use it to kill
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my entire family.
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00:28:47,820 --> 00:28:49,500
What time did you leave the house, Ron?
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00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,480
Well, it was about nine.
460
00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:58,700
I bought a bottle of vodka and...
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00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:05,600
drank it for courage, and then I headed
back to his house to kill him.
462
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,920
And?
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00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,380
And I couldn't do it.
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00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:24,820
I made it as far as the shed, and I just
lost it.
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00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,780
I ended up going back to my apartment
and passing out.
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00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640
I woke up the next morning and I heard
about the murder on the news.
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00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,160
Diane's alibi is ironclad?
468
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,820
She was at the shelter an hour and a
half after we said goodbye to her. She
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00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:46,780
didn't leave there until Maggie and I
found her and brought her here.
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00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,120
And Ron?
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00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Alibi?
472
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,880
None. Ron and the father, this never
occurred to Diane?
473
00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:54,460
She swears no.
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00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,540
I caught up in her own nightmare.
475
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,520
Well, I mean, as soon as we mentioned
it, Diane just knew.
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00:30:00,030 --> 00:30:01,890
She said all the pieces fell into place.
477
00:30:02,350 --> 00:30:04,090
How does a mother fit into this?
478
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:08,790
During the time the kids were being
molested, Gail Gilman was out of work,
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00:30:08,790 --> 00:30:12,370
Anne, the mother, had to work two jobs.
She was in office time during the day
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00:30:12,370 --> 00:30:17,310
and waitressing at night, leaving Gail
Gilman home with Diane and Ron.
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00:30:17,770 --> 00:30:22,390
What she says now is that she suspected
her husband of abuse, just not sexual
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00:30:22,390 --> 00:30:25,010
abuse. So, Ron.
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00:30:25,330 --> 00:30:27,010
We don't have enough to charge him.
484
00:30:27,730 --> 00:30:28,730
Yet.
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00:30:32,910 --> 00:30:33,910
Is this trash?
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00:30:37,070 --> 00:30:38,110
Uh, absolutely.
487
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:44,590
Who are these people?
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00:30:45,530 --> 00:30:48,370
It's from an old cave. Just, um, forget
about it.
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00:30:48,850 --> 00:30:50,230
Is it evidence? No.
490
00:30:50,830 --> 00:30:52,170
Personal. Got it?
491
00:30:56,770 --> 00:30:57,770
Sorry.
492
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:59,990
No, no, I shouldn't have cried.
493
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,600
Honey or sugar?
494
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Honey.
495
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,840
The man, or one of the men in the
496
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,900
photos, is my biological father.
497
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,060
I never knew him, and he recently passed
away.
498
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:48,480
Look, Stacy, everybody doesn't have a
past that they want to be reminded of,
499
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:51,560
okay? You got your memory book? I got
that.
500
00:31:52,340 --> 00:31:54,340
This is where it belongs.
501
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,060
When my grandma died, it was sudden.
502
00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:09,100
And I had all those years to ask her
whatever I wanted.
503
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:11,120
And I realized...
504
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,700
You know, after she had gone, that I
hadn't asked her nearly enough.
505
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,940
She knew things about me and my family
and her own life that she took to the
506
00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:20,940
grave.
507
00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:24,480
Like I said before, different lives.
508
00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:28,340
Yeah, yeah, sure.
509
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:35,440
I guess I'm just saying that, you know,
you never know when your last chance is
510
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,440
up until it is.
511
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:04,500
This is Evan.
512
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,980
We're sorry to get you out of bed.
513
00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:08,720
My children are not here.
514
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,640
Well, we actually would like to speak
with you and your husband.
515
00:33:12,020 --> 00:33:13,180
Gus isn't here either.
516
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,560
He's at the office.
517
00:33:15,140 --> 00:33:16,140
May we come in?
518
00:33:16,740 --> 00:33:18,100
I know you hear about Ron.
519
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,800
I spoke to Diane.
520
00:33:21,420 --> 00:33:22,600
Why are you doing this?
521
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:24,660
I thought you were on our side.
522
00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:26,479
We are.
523
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,340
We also have a job to do, ma 'am.
524
00:33:28,780 --> 00:33:32,540
It works both ways. If Ron has proven
innocent like your daughter, then...
525
00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:36,370
You better come, Chad.
526
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:41,890
I should have known about Ron and Diane.
527
00:33:42,930 --> 00:33:44,170
I'm the one to blame.
528
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:50,590
It's the sins of omission. Because of
me, my children are suffering still.
529
00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:52,430
It's not your fault.
530
00:33:53,170 --> 00:33:56,010
You did do something. You took your
children to safety.
531
00:33:57,770 --> 00:33:58,770
I'm too late.
532
00:34:00,170 --> 00:34:04,650
If I'd had the courage to deal with Cale
myself years ago, none of this would
533
00:34:04,650 --> 00:34:05,650
have happened.
534
00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:07,250
Deal with?
535
00:34:10,370 --> 00:34:15,590
The night we left, I came home from my
waitress job at 3 in the morning.
536
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:21,510
Cale was passed out drunk on the couch.
537
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:26,949
Ron and Diane, they weren't in their
bed.
538
00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:35,449
I found them hiding in the basement.
539
00:34:46,570 --> 00:34:47,710
clutching onto one another.
540
00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:51,670
I could have done it right then.
541
00:34:56,030 --> 00:35:02,070
Instead, I kept a key to that house on a
chain around my neck
542
00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:04,250
for years after that.
543
00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:12,170
I swore to myself that if Kale ever came
into our lives again, tried to
544
00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:16,600
hurt my kids again, I would go back to
that house and kill him.
545
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,920
Devin, are you saying that you are
responsible for your ex -husband's
546
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,400
No.
547
00:35:30,820 --> 00:35:34,420
I think... I think you should go now.
548
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,100
Sometimes the medicine that I take makes
me fuzzy in it.
549
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:43,580
Please don't... don't pay me any mind.
550
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:48,750
Mrs. Evans, do you still have that key?
551
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:58,670
What now?
552
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,580
Your wife's key to Cale Gilman's house.
553
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,380
I guess, uh... I guess I should have
thrown it away.
554
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:29,700
But Annie, uh... I wish I had kept it so
long.
555
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,020
Well, what you should have done, at
least, was wipe it down like you did the
556
00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:37,260
shotgun. Because now we have your
fingerprints and gunshot residue.
557
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,380
Mr. Evans, we're now placing you under
arrest for the murder of Cale Gilman.
558
00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:43,180
Got seven...
559
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,320
You have the right to remain silent.
560
00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:47,660
Anything you say can and will be held
against you in the court of law.
561
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:50,860
You have the right to an attorney. You
cannot afford an attorney.
562
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,920
Your attorney will be made available to
you.
563
00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:10,420
All right, say it.
564
00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:12,140
What?
565
00:37:12,490 --> 00:37:16,450
So what you're thinking, that I was
stupid, that I made a bad situation
566
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:21,750
Well, you did make a bad situation
worse, and you were stupid, sir.
567
00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:26,810
I mean, in or out of jail, kill Gilman
was out of your life.
568
00:37:28,410 --> 00:37:30,310
Now what's that going to cost you?
569
00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:32,030
I didn't go there to kill him.
570
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:33,810
Why didn't you go?
571
00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:38,710
My son called me from that old shed
behind Gilman's house.
572
00:37:39,730 --> 00:37:40,730
He's crying.
573
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:46,570
He used to have terrible nightmares when
he was a kid, both he and Diane.
574
00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:48,810
It was just like that.
575
00:37:50,190 --> 00:37:51,370
It was hysterical.
576
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:54,090
I begged him to leave.
577
00:37:55,550 --> 00:37:57,630
Then he broke off the call.
578
00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:02,370
I just, I went over there.
579
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:04,130
And Ron had already left.
580
00:38:05,210 --> 00:38:06,830
All you had to do was go.
581
00:38:07,170 --> 00:38:08,170
Go?
582
00:38:08,610 --> 00:38:10,470
That man was right there in the house.
583
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,400
I had the key.
584
00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:15,800
It was a fleek.
585
00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:18,260
Not a care in the world.
586
00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:21,820
A gun beside his bed.
587
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,480
All those years, no matter how hard I
tried, I couldn't make it right for my
588
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,480
family.
589
00:38:29,980 --> 00:38:31,880
My lives are supposed to be perfect.
590
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:33,720
Perfect.
591
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,720
Kale Gilman stole that from us.
592
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:39,960
From me.
593
00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:42,610
And now?
594
00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:43,970
Now.
595
00:38:44,850 --> 00:38:46,150
Wish I could take it back.
596
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:55,520
Is that you, Ralph Baker?
597
00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:59,340
Before you became what you became?
598
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,960
I have a friend who is a rape and incest
survivor.
599
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:22,220
I feel very strongly that men should
speak up and speak out about...
600
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,960
violence against women. The males are
the perpetrators of this violence. So
601
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,800
unless it's stopped at that point or men
begin to speak up and speak
602
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,520
out about it, it will be allowed to
continue.
603
00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:39,560
The biggest mistake I've ever made in my
life was keep my mouth shut.
604
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,420
And if you are a survivor,
605
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,140
don't be afraid to say so.
606
00:40:52,410 --> 00:40:59,390
You'll never smile honestly in your life
until the moment
607
00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:00,390
you do.
608
00:41:01,450 --> 00:41:03,210
Gus expected the sexual abuse?
609
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:04,510
Yeah, for years.
610
00:41:05,090 --> 00:41:09,170
Even before Diane came forward with it.
He said it was only a matter of time
611
00:41:09,170 --> 00:41:11,510
before someone in the family decided to
do something about it.
612
00:41:12,370 --> 00:41:15,390
Are you saying that Gus killed Billman
to stop his wife and one of his other
613
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:16,390
kids from doing it first?
614
00:41:16,570 --> 00:41:18,610
I'm just saying the man didn't see any
choice.
615
00:41:19,050 --> 00:41:20,370
And no excuse for murder.
616
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,960
Pretty damn close.
617
00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:27,040
Family's behind Gus 100%. Yeah, Diane's
on a mission to keep her stepfather out
618
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,420
of jail. I wouldn't put it faster.
619
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,100
Well, I don't think even the Supreme
Court can save old Gus.
620
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,960
The jury might.
621
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:34,460
But what about justice?
622
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,420
What does it say about us when we can't
even give a man like Cal Gilman the
623
00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:39,720
punishment that he deserves?
624
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,200
That we're human.
625
00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:42,660
We make mistakes.
626
00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:46,420
That's why we have laws and courts in
the first place. And cops.
627
00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:48,400
That's right. We're all in it together.
628
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:50,670
Good job guys.
629
00:41:50,910 --> 00:41:51,910
See you tomorrow.
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