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[tape machine whirring]
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[upbeat music]
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- [Richard] This is
a story about a boy,
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his dad, and the movies.
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This is the story of
my cinema-fueled youth
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in New York City.
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My name is Richard Shepard.
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I grew up in the
1970s and early '80s.
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Back then, the city streets
were dirty and tough.
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The subway's dangerous.
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It was a time of crime and
grime and psycho killers
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and Reggie Jackson.
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And the birth of punk
and the birth of hip hop.
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It was a golden time.
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New York was my home,
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and even though the city
could be an intimidating
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and steaming cesspool
of anger and edge,
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it was all I knew and
I felt like I owned it.
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And movies were a large
part of that ownership.
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Maybe the biggest part.
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I was surrounded by film.
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I surrendered to it.
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I went to the movies,
made Super 8 movies,
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collected movie posters and
soundtracks, read movie books,
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became obsessed by movie
reviews and movie advertisements
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and movie trailers.
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I loved movie theaters
and the smell of popcorn
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and the smell of
mildew and Lysol
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because many of those
theaters were old and fading
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and full of weird New Yorkers
getting lost in the dark.
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I escaped into the movies.
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They became a lifeline to me,
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a punk rock cinematic mosh
pit out of the ordinary.
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The egomaniacal film
director floating down
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from the sky in "The Stuntman."
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The Playboy bunnies
escaping the rowdy soldiers
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in "Apocalypse Now."
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The sexy girl rollerskating
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through the giant
loft in "Diva."
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The baby that was really a doll,
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that was really a bomb
in "Marathon Man."
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I remember it all.
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It's strange.
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So many memories of my
youth have started to fade,
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but when it comes to the
films I saw back then,
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my memory is agile, fresh.
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And it's not just
the famous movies,
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it's all the films
I went to then.
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The horror films,
the foreign films,
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the second-rate dramas,
and exploitation pictures.
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How is that?
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Why do the films stick
when so much else fades?
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This was before streaming,
before cable, before Blu-Ray.
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There was regular
commercial TV, of course.
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And VHS and Betamax
if you were fancy,
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but if you really
wanted to see a movie,
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you went to the theater,
you went at an appointed hour,
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you went with people who
meant something to you.
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You sat in the dark
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and let the stories take
you where they might.
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And because of that, each
outing to a movie was an event,
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something you remembered.
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Even the shitty movies, even
"Cujo," even "Death Wish II,"
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even "Friday the 13th
Part III," in 3D,
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which I saw at the Loew's
Orpheum on East 86th Street,
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and when one of the
characters stretched her arms
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straight to the 3D camera,
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offering another
character a joint,
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my entire audience reached
out their hands to get a toke.
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This is a story of the
movies in my youth,
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the years before I
went off to college,
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of the films I saw
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and the experiences
I had watching them.
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It's also a story of a
movie-crazed New York City,
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and it's also a story
about my father,
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a loving, but often
mysterious man
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who had no discernible job,
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went by three or
four different names,
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had an incredible connection
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and fascination with
the city's underbelly
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and whose love of movies helped
foster my own cinematic DNA.
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Like the story structure of
many of the movies my dad
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and I saw when I was a kid,
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let me start at the ending.
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Not the ending ending,
but close enough.
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Obviously, the scene takes
place at a movie theater,
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the Cinema Studios 1
on the Upper West Side.
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It's my senior
year in high school
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and the film playing
there is "Winter Kills,"
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starring Jeff Bridges
and John Huston.
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My father and I hadn't
heard much about it
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other than it was star studded.
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It was supposed to be good,
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and it was a conspiracy
movie, which sounded fun.
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- A conspiracy.
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- A conspiracy?
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- [Richard] By this
point in high school,
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I rarely went to the
movies with my parents.
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I had friends and girlfriends
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and it just wasn't something
we did that often anymore.
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But my dad was excited
about this film
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and even though I probably
would've preferred to see it
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with my buddies, I
went with him instead.
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I could tell that it
meant something to him
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to have this experience
with me back at the movies
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where we had spent so much
time together as I grew up.
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Little did we know what
was in store for us.
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"Winter Kills" was
truly a bonkers film.
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Funny, surreal, and deep.
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It blew my 17-year-old
movie-addled brain
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splat against the back
wall of the theater.
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It was a brilliant take on
the Kennedy assassination.
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It was also an uncommonly
compelling love story
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and the darkest family saga
you could fucking imagine.
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In the finale, John
Huston desperately clings
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onto a giant American flag
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50 floors above a
Manhattan street.
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I mean, what's not to love?
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And love it, I did.
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I was hooked on the film.
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I love the twisty complex
story, the way it looked.
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The beauty of Belinda
Bauer as a mysterious woman
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who may or may not be fucking
with Jeff Bridges' heart.
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Mostly I love the
surreal touches,
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how every time a smiling
lady on a bicycle rode by,
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something very bad happened.
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[melancholic music]
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[bomb exploding loudly]
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The movie was thrilling
and hysterical
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and a real cinematic high
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because the director danced
on a razor blade of tones
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and wildly pulled it off.
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I quickly needed to know
everything about this filmmaker.
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I found out his name
was William Richert.
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I learned that he rented a house
in Malibu on the same block
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as Jeff Bridges so he could
get to know him as a neighbor,
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and then he sprung
his script on him.
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He told John Huston
Elizabeth Taylor was attached
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before she was and
told Elizabeth Taylor
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that John Huston was
attached before he was,
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and he somehow got both of
them to be in the movie.
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It had taken Richert years
to get this movie made.
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When "Winter Kills"
was finally released,
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the film was dumped.
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And soon after, the producer
got murdered by the mob.
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Richert was now bankrolling
a re-release himself.
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The story of the life of the
movie was almost as intriguing
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as the movie, and the movie
was fucking intriguing.
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I was jacked up
by "Winter Kills."
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Walking home with my father
that cold Saturday in January,
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I couldn't stop
talking about it.
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I was full of questions
and critiques and insights.
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I wanted to talk about
the batshit crazy script,
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the indelible score, whether
Belinda Bauer would marry me.
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I was in a film fanatic frenzy.
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[light music]
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My father lit up a cigar and
smiled at me on the street.
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He was smiling because
he finally understood me.
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He finally understood
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why I was failing
nearly all my classes,
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why I was constantly cutting
school to go to the movies,
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why my college admissions
counselor worried
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I wouldn't get into any school.
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He finally understood
why I could just
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as easily go nuts
over horrible films
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like "Forced Vengeance"
or "Faces of Death,"
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as I could over great
ones like "Winter Kills."
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I wasn't just a movie
lover like he was.
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I was a true movie geek.
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Good, bad or indifferent,
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if it was projected against
a screen, I devoured it.
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My father understood
that his passion
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for great movies transferred
to me, had been altered,
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genetically mutated, so
that I connected deeply
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to all movies, everything
to do with movies.
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I had become the
Frankenstein monster
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to my father's Dr. Frankenstein.
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[dramatic music]
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How did it happen?
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In what lab was this
movie monster created?
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[dramatic music]
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[King Kong growling]
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[Fay Wray screaming]
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"King Kong" was the first
film I remember seeing.
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I was five or six
and I was captivated,
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lost completely in that
exotic black-and-white world.
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The whole thing,
the tattered map,
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the strange island, the
giant ape, the dinosaurs,
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this woman's scared by the
beast, but also taken with him.
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"Why did they ship this
ape from the island?"
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I asked my father.
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"Why did they torture him?
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Why did they kill him?"
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[dramatic music]
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I saw it at a theater
that I only went to once,
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somewhere on the east
side of Manhattan.
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I remember they
served hamburgers
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and soda when you
watched the film.
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I remember loving
being there with my dad
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and I remember my father
and I went for hot chocolate
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at Rumpelmayer's on Central
Park South after the film.
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And I remember it
as a perfect day.
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The 1933 "King Kong" captured
my imagination in a way
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that it still does to this day.
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I watched the film
religiously as a child
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whenever it was on TV.
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I even wrote an article
about it when I was nine,
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about seeing the
movie so many times.
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I tried to get it
published in a magazine.
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I can only imagine the
editor's face seeing
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this handwritten screed of
a young little film nerd.
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What could he have
thought reading it?
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What did I say?
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That article is missing, but
my memories of the film remain.
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New York City was
where Kong was taken
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and it was where I lived and
it made a huge impression.
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I thought for sure
that what happened in
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that movie happened
in real life.
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Later in 1976, they remade
"King Kong" with Jeff Bridges
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and Jessica Lange.
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The World Trade Center replaced
the Empire State Building.
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I was 11 and saw it
with my dad again.
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I thought I was good, but I
was adamant that it wasn't
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as good as the original,
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adamant as only an
11-year-old could be.
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My father truly loved movies.
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And I loved my dad,
so it's not strange
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that I followed his heart
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towards the flickering
images in the darkness.
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He was a man of
big ego and style.
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My dad was a loving man,
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but mysterious too with
various names and various jobs,
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many of them illegal.
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He was a small time
loan shark, a gambler,
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an antiques trader who was
always looking for an edge.
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Stained envelopes with money
were slipped under our door
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when I was growing up.
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Phone calls from strange
men asking for Jack,
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even though my dad's name was
Bob, were regular occurrences.
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My dad scrambled by,
survived, provided.
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My parents and I lived
a nice middle class life
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though I never knew what
really went into it.
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I grew up in a rent-
controlled apartment.
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My mom and dad rarely ate out,
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but we would go
away for the summers
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and I never wanted for anything.
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It was a life of privilege,
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even if that privilege
I now know was flimsy,
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built on dreams and cons.
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[light music]
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My father collected
antique toys and old books,
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mostly on art or boxing or
the history of the movies,
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but most of all my
dad was an artist,
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a sculptor, a collagist.
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He lived an artist's life
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though he never sold
any of his work.
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He was a true individual,
a true New Yorker,
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who slept till noon most
days, ate onions like apples,
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read voraciously,
under tipped famously,
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could be rough and rude,
but warm and charming too.
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He told me that
when he was a boy,
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the movies were an escape
from his tough father.
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He'd sneak off with
his cousin, Leonard,
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to the Museum of Modern Art
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and watch old films
that screened there.
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My dad would tell me
about those films,
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describe his favorites.
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Later as an adult,
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I put my dad in a few
of my small indie films.
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He wasn't an actor,
but he was a natural.
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He was so happy seeing
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how the process of a
movie actually went,
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how the art form he
loved was crafted.
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I had him play a
bartender in both films,
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even though my dad rarely drank
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and he didn't really
frequent bars.
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It just seemed right for him.
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Bars were full of characters
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and my father certainly was one.
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When he died of
cancer at age 73,
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I dedicated the film I was
directing, the black comedy,
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"The Matador," with
Pierce Brosnan, to him.
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The end card said, "For
my dad, who loved movies."
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The second movie that
I remember seeing was
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at a school friend's
birthday party.
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It was in a private
screening room in a midtown
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Manhattan office building.
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The film was "Willy Wonka,"
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and it filled my
6-year-old heart with joy.
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The colors, the
songs, the kids in it,
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the candy, the winning ticket.
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[kids shrieking]
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- Little surprises
around every corner,
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but nothing dangerous.
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- [Richard] I remember
being delighted by Willy.
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He was kind and then
mean and then kind again.
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That was important to me.
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Did I yet know that it was
an actor playing that part,
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that Willy Wonka
wasn't a real man,
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that it was in fact Gene Wilder,
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a person I would go on to
adore in "The Producers"
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and "Blazing Saddles,"
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and "The Adventure of Sherlock
Holmes' Smarter Brother,"
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a movie that made me laugh
so hard I couldn't breathe?
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Gene Wilder was such
a brilliant performer.
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He had the warmest eyes.
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It seemed like my parents
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and I would go to the
movies all the time.
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It was just what
we did as a family.
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Cartoons, musicals.
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One of my favorites was "The
Adventures of Robin Hood,"
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that I first saw at
a revival theater
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on the Upper West side
near where I lived.
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My mother had always joked
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that my father purposely
cultivated an Errol Flynn vibe.
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I didn't know what that meant
until they took me to see it.
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Watching Errol Flynn in that
film was like looking at my dad
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up on the screen,
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00:13:47,868 --> 00:13:51,372
only he was sword fighting
and saving Maid Marian
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and hanging with his
friends in Sherwood Forest.
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I fell in love with the movie,
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with the idea of my
father as the hero.
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Later, it was on TV,
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00:14:00,381 --> 00:14:03,050
and while we only had a black-
and-white Zenith television,
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in my mind, I
always saw the film
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and the beautiful color I
watched it in originally.
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The Sheriff of Nottingham
was played by Basil Rathbone,
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such a great name, who
had played Sherlock Holmes
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00:14:14,228 --> 00:14:16,730
and I'd see those
films on TV too.
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00:14:16,730 --> 00:14:18,399
"The Hound of the Baskervilles,"
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00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:19,817
"Terror by Night."
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I borrowed a pipe of my father's
and a hat from my mother
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and played Sherlock Holmes
in my bedroom mirror.
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00:14:25,406 --> 00:14:27,324
I did a lot of shows
in that mirror.
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00:14:27,324 --> 00:14:31,078
My first plays, my first
stories, my first movies,
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00:14:31,078 --> 00:14:33,998
playing all the parts
using wigs and disguises.
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00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:38,419
I'd watch Abbott and Costello
movies on Sunday morning TV.
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00:14:38,419 --> 00:14:40,671
I'd watch the Marx Brothers
and "The Thief of Baghdad,"
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00:14:40,671 --> 00:14:43,173
and "Gunga Din," and
"Chitty Chitty Bang Bang,"
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00:14:43,173 --> 00:14:45,426
and "The Wizard of Oz."
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00:14:45,426 --> 00:14:47,261
I still remember
being six or seven
346
00:14:47,261 --> 00:14:49,680
and going upstairs to my
friend Amy Seplin's apartment
347
00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,183
on the 11th floor to rewatch
"The Wizard of Oz" with her
348
00:14:53,183 --> 00:14:55,352
and getting so scared
by the flying monkeys
349
00:14:55,352 --> 00:14:58,188
and the Wicked Witch that
I ran back to my parents.
350
00:14:59,607 --> 00:15:01,358
My mother was waiting
for me on the fifth floor
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00:15:01,358 --> 00:15:03,027
with the front door opened.
352
00:15:03,027 --> 00:15:04,862
My mom knew that the
only way I could watch
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00:15:04,862 --> 00:15:08,449
those scary scenes was with
her protectively by my side.
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00:15:10,284 --> 00:15:14,538
My mother, Arpy, that's
A-R-P-Y, it's Armenian,
355
00:15:14,538 --> 00:15:15,873
I'm half-Armenian,
356
00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:18,375
went to the Fashion
Institute of Technology,
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00:15:18,375 --> 00:15:21,629
and worked for a small design
house before I was born.
358
00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:24,465
She quit that job to raise
me though she still did
359
00:15:24,465 --> 00:15:27,468
the most beautiful fashion
sketches when I was growing up.
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00:15:27,468 --> 00:15:29,720
Clearly her heart was
still in that world,
361
00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,639
even if her dream
had been deferred.
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00:15:33,307 --> 00:15:35,726
"Vogue" magazine and
"Women's Wear Daily" used
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00:15:35,726 --> 00:15:37,311
to be delivered
to our apartment,
364
00:15:37,311 --> 00:15:39,813
and my mother was always
stylish and beautiful,
365
00:15:39,813 --> 00:15:42,983
and I still remember the
various silk scarves she'd wear.
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00:15:42,983 --> 00:15:46,820
She was bright and kind and
adored me and my father.
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00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:47,988
My mom's friend, Hannah,
368
00:15:47,988 --> 00:15:49,573
said that my mom
would've died a virgin
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00:15:49,573 --> 00:15:51,325
if she hadn't met my dad.
370
00:15:51,325 --> 00:15:54,578
I'm not sure about that,
but she loved him enormously
371
00:15:54,578 --> 00:15:55,829
and put up with
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00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:58,415
and even embraced his
various eccentricities.
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00:15:58,415 --> 00:15:59,583
He opened a world for her
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00:15:59,583 --> 00:16:01,919
that she clearly
wanted to explore.
375
00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:04,171
Wake up at 4AM so we
could drive two hours
376
00:16:04,171 --> 00:16:06,340
and be the first people at
some strange flea market
377
00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:08,676
my father wanted to
go to in New Jersey.
378
00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:09,843
No problem.
379
00:16:09,843 --> 00:16:11,428
Wait in the car
when my father broke
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00:16:11,428 --> 00:16:13,347
into some abandoned building
in the Bronx to look
381
00:16:13,347 --> 00:16:16,016
for twisted scrap metal
for his sculptures.
382
00:16:16,016 --> 00:16:17,851
Yep, we did that too.
383
00:16:17,851 --> 00:16:19,353
If my mother had a
problem with any of it,
384
00:16:19,353 --> 00:16:20,771
I certainly didn't know.
385
00:16:20,771 --> 00:16:22,940
This was the life they
made for each other.
386
00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:25,192
She was the one who took
me to ice skating lessons
387
00:16:25,192 --> 00:16:26,944
and birthday parties in school.
388
00:16:26,944 --> 00:16:28,529
She was the one waiting for me
389
00:16:28,529 --> 00:16:30,948
when I came home terrified
from watching "Wizard of Oz."
390
00:16:30,948 --> 00:16:33,784
He was the one who,
most cinematically,
391
00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:37,204
while giving my mother driving
lessons one Sunday afternoon,
392
00:16:37,204 --> 00:16:39,873
saw a purse snatching
in progress,
393
00:16:39,873 --> 00:16:42,626
yelled at my mom
to step on the gas.
394
00:16:42,626 --> 00:16:45,212
[car roaring]
395
00:16:47,715 --> 00:16:50,217
And chased the
muggers two blocks.
396
00:16:50,217 --> 00:16:53,053
[dramatic music]
397
00:16:54,471 --> 00:16:57,891
Until my dad, this Upper West
Side Popeye Doyle wannabe,
398
00:16:57,891 --> 00:17:02,062
stopped them by using his black
eyeglass case as a mock gun.
399
00:17:02,062 --> 00:17:04,565
[tires screeching]
400
00:17:04,565 --> 00:17:06,233
- [Actor] Hold it!
401
00:17:06,233 --> 00:17:07,818
- [Richard] This happened.
402
00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:11,405
I was in the backseat
of the car when it did.
403
00:17:11,405 --> 00:17:13,574
Terrified and thrilled
at the same time
404
00:17:13,574 --> 00:17:15,409
as the muggers
dropped the purse,
405
00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:18,412
somehow believing that my dad's
eyeglass case was a weapon
406
00:17:18,412 --> 00:17:20,497
and that all undercover
police cars are supposed
407
00:17:20,497 --> 00:17:23,667
to have a terrified 10-year-old
kid in the backseat.
408
00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:25,919
It should be noted that
my mother kept her calm
409
00:17:25,919 --> 00:17:27,921
behind the wheel
the whole chase,
410
00:17:27,921 --> 00:17:30,591
like Roy Scheider's character
in "The French Connection."
411
00:17:30,591 --> 00:17:33,260
She was a partner
you wanted to have.
412
00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:37,973
[screaming]
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00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:39,058
There are three significant
414
00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:40,142
moments at the movies
415
00:17:40,142 --> 00:17:41,226
that scared the shit
416
00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:42,352
out of me in my youth.
417
00:17:42,352 --> 00:17:45,105
The first one happened
when I was around seven.
418
00:17:45,105 --> 00:17:46,273
My parents and I were staying
419
00:17:46,273 --> 00:17:48,358
at the Mohonk
Mountain House Hotel,
420
00:17:48,358 --> 00:17:51,111
which would remind me of
the hotel in "The Shining,"
421
00:17:51,111 --> 00:17:52,362
and they were showing a movie
422
00:17:52,362 --> 00:17:54,948
in their grand ballroom
one night and we all went.
423
00:17:54,948 --> 00:17:59,369
It was the 1964 film, "Wait
Until Dark," with Audrey Hepburn
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00:17:59,369 --> 00:18:02,956
as a blind woman being
terrorized by criminals.
425
00:18:02,956 --> 00:18:06,460
I remember nothing about that
movie except for one moment
426
00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:09,463
where Audrey Hepburn comes
into her dark apartment.
427
00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:13,717
[suspenseful music]
[Audrey Hepburn screams]
428
00:18:13,717 --> 00:18:16,303
The fear I felt,
the scream I gave,
429
00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:19,306
the feeling in the pit
of my stomach, the tears.
430
00:18:19,306 --> 00:18:21,141
To say that I was
scared shitless would be
431
00:18:21,141 --> 00:18:22,476
an understatement.
432
00:18:22,476 --> 00:18:25,479
I was scarred,
permanently altered.
433
00:18:25,479 --> 00:18:27,147
Yet it did not deter me.
434
00:18:27,147 --> 00:18:29,566
If my parents wanted to
show me a movie, any movie,
435
00:18:29,566 --> 00:18:30,818
I would go.
436
00:18:30,818 --> 00:18:32,820
No complaints.
437
00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:34,822
My father had many movie books
438
00:18:34,822 --> 00:18:36,323
and we'd sit in the living room,
439
00:18:36,323 --> 00:18:39,660
the smell of his sweat and
cigar smoke filling my lungs,
440
00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:40,994
and flip through them,
441
00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:43,997
going deep after an old
film we'd have seen.
442
00:18:43,997 --> 00:18:47,167
He'd show me pictures of other
movies with the same actors,
443
00:18:47,167 --> 00:18:50,754
explain the plots of films
made by the same director.
444
00:18:50,754 --> 00:18:52,422
I became obsessed by Fritz Lang
445
00:18:52,422 --> 00:18:55,008
before I saw a frame
of "Metropolis."
446
00:18:55,008 --> 00:18:57,427
I knew almost every
Hitchcock cameo
447
00:18:57,427 --> 00:19:00,264
and could name almost every
single one of his films.
448
00:19:00,264 --> 00:19:01,932
I might've been the
only little kid who knew
449
00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:04,852
who Edward Everett Horton
was and my obsession
450
00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:07,437
with that wonderful 1930
supporting performer
451
00:19:07,437 --> 00:19:10,774
started a lifelong love
of character actors.
452
00:19:10,774 --> 00:19:12,693
My father curated everything.
453
00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:13,861
It was through
him that I learned
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00:19:13,861 --> 00:19:16,530
to find pleasure in old
black-and-white movies,
455
00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:19,199
in Edward G. Robinson
and Barbara Stanwyck,
456
00:19:19,199 --> 00:19:20,701
and Sydney Greenstreet,
457
00:19:20,701 --> 00:19:24,621
in films that were famous and
films that were lost in time.
458
00:19:24,621 --> 00:19:26,373
And I was the perfect student,
459
00:19:26,373 --> 00:19:28,292
asking question after question,
460
00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:30,210
hanging on my
father's every word,
461
00:19:30,210 --> 00:19:32,963
his every piece of film lore,
462
00:19:32,963 --> 00:19:35,716
and it wasn't only older
movies that I was seeing.
463
00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:39,303
As I grew up, my parents started
taking me to new releases.
464
00:19:39,303 --> 00:19:42,723
"Murder on the Orient
Express, "Paper Moon."
465
00:19:42,723 --> 00:19:43,891
- Crazy!
466
00:19:43,891 --> 00:19:45,559
- [Richard] "The Sting."
467
00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:47,227
"Young Frankenstein."
468
00:19:47,227 --> 00:19:48,729
[Frankenstein monster grunting]
469
00:19:48,729 --> 00:19:50,230
- Let me out, let
me out of here.
470
00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:51,648
Get me the hell out of here.
471
00:19:51,648 --> 00:19:53,317
- [Richard] But only
after my father took me
472
00:19:53,317 --> 00:19:57,404
to see the 1935 James Whale
film, "Bride of Frankenstein,"
473
00:19:57,404 --> 00:19:59,823
downtown at the
Theatre 80 St. Marks.
474
00:19:59,823 --> 00:20:03,243
He wanted me ready to get all
the jokes in Mel Brooks' film.
475
00:20:03,243 --> 00:20:04,661
The Theatre 80 was soon
476
00:20:04,661 --> 00:20:06,663
to become my favorite
revival theater in the city.
477
00:20:06,663 --> 00:20:09,416
It was a small cinema where
the projector was actually
478
00:20:09,416 --> 00:20:10,918
behind the screen
479
00:20:10,918 --> 00:20:13,295
and the Art Deco concession
bar was a thing of beauty.
480
00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:16,840
For years, I would always get
an extra sense of excitement
481
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,926
if I knew we were going
to see a movie there.
482
00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:22,512
It was downtown, slightly
scary and foreign to me,
483
00:20:22,512 --> 00:20:25,098
as if we were transported
to another Manhattan.
484
00:20:28,268 --> 00:20:31,104
At nine, I remember
going with my mom and dad
485
00:20:31,104 --> 00:20:35,108
to the ornate and majestic
Ziegfeld Theatre in Midtown
486
00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:37,444
to see the "Towering Inferno."
487
00:20:37,444 --> 00:20:40,364
Two studios had competing
fire in big building movies
488
00:20:40,364 --> 00:20:41,865
based on two different books,
489
00:20:41,865 --> 00:20:43,617
and they decided to
combine the projects
490
00:20:43,617 --> 00:20:45,953
into one mega
all-star multi studio.
491
00:20:45,953 --> 00:20:47,621
Paul Newman and OJ Simpson
492
00:20:47,621 --> 00:20:50,290
and Fred Astaire in
the same movie movie.
493
00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:53,543
I was too young to notice
the cardboard acting.
494
00:20:53,543 --> 00:20:54,962
Too young to know
that Paul Newman
495
00:20:54,962 --> 00:20:56,797
and Steve McQueen
fought over billing,
496
00:20:56,797 --> 00:20:59,549
and contractually had to have
an equal number of lines.
497
00:20:59,549 --> 00:21:01,134
I just thought it was thrilling.
498
00:21:01,134 --> 00:21:03,720
I was so taken with it that I
actually read one of the books
499
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,056
that was based on and at
that point in my life,
500
00:21:06,056 --> 00:21:07,724
I barely read anything.
501
00:21:08,976 --> 00:21:11,728
It was the beginning of my
seeking books or articles
502
00:21:11,728 --> 00:21:14,231
or albums or posters
of the movies I saw.
503
00:21:14,231 --> 00:21:17,150
If I loved it, I wanted more.
504
00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:19,820
"Earthquake" was another
all-star disaster movie,
505
00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:22,322
and it was advertised
as being in Sensurround,
506
00:21:22,322 --> 00:21:24,324
which was supposed to make
you feel like you were really
507
00:21:24,324 --> 00:21:25,575
in an earthquake.
508
00:21:25,575 --> 00:21:28,412
That was enough for me
to drag my father to it.
509
00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:30,330
I remember getting to
the movie theater early
510
00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:31,748
and checking under the seats.
511
00:21:31,748 --> 00:21:33,583
I was sure that
each chair was wired
512
00:21:33,583 --> 00:21:36,169
to shake like a 7.0 big one.
513
00:21:36,169 --> 00:21:38,130
Unfortunately, that
wasn't the case.
514
00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:39,381
Sensurround was just
515
00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:41,675
low frequency noises
on the soundtrack.
516
00:21:41,675 --> 00:21:44,261
Still, the movie
exceeded my expectations.
517
00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:45,679
I had never been to Los Angeles,
518
00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:47,848
but I loved seeing it destroyed.
519
00:21:47,848 --> 00:21:49,349
At the end of the
film, my father told me
520
00:21:49,349 --> 00:21:51,351
that the drunk at
the bar in the movie,
521
00:21:51,351 --> 00:21:53,770
who was so wasted that he
wasn't phased by the earthquake,
522
00:21:53,770 --> 00:21:57,274
was a cameo by an actor
named Walter Matthau.
523
00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:58,525
I didn't know who that was,
524
00:21:58,525 --> 00:22:00,027
but I was about to find out.
525
00:22:01,862 --> 00:22:04,448
Going to "The Bad News Bears"
with my childhood friend,
526
00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:06,116
Mark Gregory Peters,
527
00:22:06,116 --> 00:22:07,951
was the first movie
I can remember seeing
528
00:22:07,951 --> 00:22:09,619
without my parents.
529
00:22:09,619 --> 00:22:11,371
I had just turned 11.
530
00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:14,291
And as Mark and I headed to
the Paramount Movie Theatre,
531
00:22:14,291 --> 00:22:16,877
I held onto my
ticket money tightly.
532
00:22:16,877 --> 00:22:19,629
This was New York City in 1976.
533
00:22:19,629 --> 00:22:21,131
The streets were dangerous
534
00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:23,050
and we all weren't
Charles Bronson.
535
00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:25,469
People got mugged
on a regular basis.
536
00:22:25,469 --> 00:22:27,137
I did at least.
537
00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:32,392
"The Bad News Bears" seemed
like it was made just for us.
538
00:22:32,392 --> 00:22:35,062
It made us laugh and
was outrageous and rude,
539
00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:37,773
and we were so happy we didn't
see it with our parents.
540
00:22:37,773 --> 00:22:38,815
[motorbike crashing]
541
00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:40,067
The swearing.
542
00:22:40,067 --> 00:22:41,401
- Hey, Yankees!
543
00:22:41,401 --> 00:22:43,070
You can take your apology
out of your trophy
544
00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:45,238
and shove it
straight up your ass!
545
00:22:45,238 --> 00:22:47,491
- [Richard] The sheer
off coloredness of it.
546
00:22:47,491 --> 00:22:48,408
- [Coach Morris] Timmy Lopez.
547
00:22:48,408 --> 00:22:49,910
- Lupus.
- Lupus.
548
00:22:49,910 --> 00:22:52,996
- 'Cause that booger-eating
spaz makes me wanna puke.
549
00:22:52,996 --> 00:22:55,082
- [Richard] Can you imagine
a studio movie made today
550
00:22:55,082 --> 00:22:56,416
where a character
is named Lupus?
551
00:22:56,416 --> 00:22:58,001
- Hey, my uniform's too small.
552
00:22:58,001 --> 00:22:59,336
- Ah, shut up.
553
00:22:59,336 --> 00:23:00,837
- [Richard] I love
Walter Matthau in it.
554
00:23:00,837 --> 00:23:03,090
His grumpiness with just
a hint of sweetness.
555
00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:04,466
I thought he was so funny.
556
00:23:05,342 --> 00:23:06,593
- Still here.
557
00:23:06,593 --> 00:23:08,512
- [Richard] Soon after I
would see Matthau on TV
558
00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:11,181
in the movie, "The
Taking of Pelham 123."
559
00:23:11,181 --> 00:23:13,183
They showed that
film constantly.
560
00:23:13,183 --> 00:23:14,684
It felt like it was
on every Saturday,
561
00:23:14,684 --> 00:23:17,104
and that was okay with
me because I loved it.
562
00:23:17,104 --> 00:23:18,438
I still do.
563
00:23:18,438 --> 00:23:20,357
It was such a tense
New York City thriller,
564
00:23:20,357 --> 00:23:21,942
gritty and grimy.
565
00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:23,360
If you wanna know what living
566
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,446
in the city in the mid-'70s
was like, this movie is it.
567
00:23:26,446 --> 00:23:27,781
- Hey!
568
00:23:27,781 --> 00:23:30,784
- Now you listen to me,
you dumb son of a bitch.
569
00:23:30,784 --> 00:23:33,286
- [Richard] Each part of the
plot works like clockwork
570
00:23:33,286 --> 00:23:35,372
with a funny and wise Matthau
571
00:23:35,372 --> 00:23:37,874
and a perfectly
menacing Robert Shaw,
572
00:23:37,874 --> 00:23:39,793
who I remembered
from "The Sting,"
573
00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:43,463
and David Shire's intense
music and the ending.
574
00:23:43,463 --> 00:23:45,966
I still think it might be
the best movie ending ever.
575
00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:48,969
A train and its passengers
has been hijacked for ransom.
576
00:23:48,969 --> 00:23:50,720
One of the criminals
has a terrible cold,
577
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,389
and every time he
sneezes over the radio
578
00:23:52,389 --> 00:23:54,391
to the transit cop
played by Matthau,
579
00:23:54,391 --> 00:23:55,308
Matthau says.
580
00:23:55,308 --> 00:23:56,143
- Gesundheit.
581
00:23:56,143 --> 00:23:56,977
[man sneezes]
582
00:23:56,977 --> 00:23:57,811
Gesundheit.
583
00:23:57,811 --> 00:23:59,312
- [Richard] At the end,
584
00:23:59,312 --> 00:24:00,647
after almost all the
criminals are caught or dead,
585
00:24:00,647 --> 00:24:02,732
Matthau and another
cop, Jerry Stiller,
586
00:24:02,732 --> 00:24:05,318
are looking for disgruntled
ex-subway employees
587
00:24:05,318 --> 00:24:08,155
who they suspect might be
the last missing criminal.
588
00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:10,323
They come to Martin
Balsam's shitty apartment.
589
00:24:10,323 --> 00:24:12,325
He's got a share of the
ransom money on the bed
590
00:24:12,325 --> 00:24:14,411
and thinks he's gotten
away with the crime.
591
00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:15,996
There's a knock at the door.
592
00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:17,914
He nervously hides
the money in the stove
593
00:24:17,914 --> 00:24:19,416
and lets the cops in.
594
00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:20,750
Things are tense.
595
00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:23,086
- Where were you, say,
afternoon, Mr. Longman?
596
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,172
- Right here.
597
00:24:25,172 --> 00:24:26,715
- [Richard] But they
eventually leave.
598
00:24:26,715 --> 00:24:27,841
As the door is closing,
599
00:24:27,841 --> 00:24:29,009
a relieved Balsam
suddenly sneezes.
600
00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:30,510
[man sneezes]
- Gesundheit.
601
00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:33,513
[door thuds]
602
00:24:33,513 --> 00:24:36,349
[door creaks]
603
00:24:36,349 --> 00:24:38,101
[upbeat music]
604
00:24:38,101 --> 00:24:41,021
- [Richard] Very few movie
endings are that satisfying.
605
00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:43,273
Maybe the original
"Planet of the Apes,"
606
00:24:43,273 --> 00:24:47,694
maybe "The Third Man,"
maybe "The Godfather."
607
00:24:47,694 --> 00:24:48,737
Maybe.
608
00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:50,530
[upbeat music]
609
00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:52,949
It was about this time
that I started noticing
610
00:24:52,949 --> 00:24:56,119
that my father wasn't
quite like everyone else's.
611
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,539
He didn't seem to care
much about rules or decorum
612
00:24:59,539 --> 00:25:01,374
or even laws.
613
00:25:01,374 --> 00:25:03,376
One day, my mother
couldn't get a reservation
614
00:25:03,376 --> 00:25:05,962
for their friends and us
to a popular restaurant,
615
00:25:05,962 --> 00:25:07,297
so my father called
616
00:25:07,297 --> 00:25:09,216
and pretended to be Henry
Kissinger's assistant,
617
00:25:09,216 --> 00:25:11,051
calling from the White House
618
00:25:11,051 --> 00:25:13,220
and said that Dr.
Kissinger's important guests
619
00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:16,139
from overseas needed
to get a table,
620
00:25:16,139 --> 00:25:18,892
and like Peter Sellers's
in "Dr. Strangelove."
621
00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:20,477
- Mr. President.
622
00:25:20,477 --> 00:25:22,312
- [Richard] My father then
spoke in a thick German accent
623
00:25:22,312 --> 00:25:25,315
at the best table in the place
for the rest of the evening.
624
00:25:26,233 --> 00:25:27,567
Another day, he came home
625
00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:31,571
with a giant 1940s
Coca-Cola advertising sign
626
00:25:31,571 --> 00:25:33,406
that he collected in
the middle of the night
627
00:25:33,406 --> 00:25:35,825
from the side of
an old building.
628
00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:37,244
The fact that the building was
629
00:25:37,244 --> 00:25:40,247
a working New Jersey
diner was never discussed.
630
00:25:41,414 --> 00:25:43,166
Many of the old movies my father
631
00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:44,417
and I watched together were
632
00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:47,087
about lovable
rogues and rascals.
633
00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:51,424
It all seemed so normal
to me, almost familiar,
634
00:25:51,424 --> 00:25:54,094
but weren't parents
supposed to be different?
635
00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:57,681
Weren't they supposed to follow
rules, decorum, and laws?
636
00:25:57,681 --> 00:25:59,933
My dad didn't carry
a gun like Bogart,
637
00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:02,936
but I wouldn't have been
surprised if he had.
638
00:26:02,936 --> 00:26:05,689
Was I embarrassed
by any of this?
639
00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:08,275
Honestly, no.
640
00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:10,193
That would change, but
at this point in my life,
641
00:26:10,193 --> 00:26:12,946
I was too in love with
my father to care.
642
00:26:12,946 --> 00:26:14,698
He was different, sure,
643
00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:17,367
but in my eyes, he
could do no wrong.
644
00:26:19,619 --> 00:26:22,289
Mark Gregory's parents,
Adrienne and Tony Peters,
645
00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:25,375
had a small vacation cottage
in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania,
646
00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:26,710
and during the summers,
647
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:28,378
I would sometimes go
up there with them.
648
00:26:28,378 --> 00:26:30,046
One of my favorite
parts of going was
649
00:26:30,046 --> 00:26:31,381
that there was a drive-in nearby
650
00:26:31,381 --> 00:26:33,300
that showed
exploitation pictures,
651
00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:35,969
and we could see the screen
from his dad's convertible
652
00:26:35,969 --> 00:26:38,805
when we would go into
town to get ice cream.
653
00:26:38,805 --> 00:26:42,058
It seemed like we'd always
pass at the perfect moment,
654
00:26:42,058 --> 00:26:46,563
a woman's prison battle,
a brutal decapitation.
655
00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:48,148
[glass shattering]
656
00:26:48,148 --> 00:26:50,191
A fist flying ninja fight.
657
00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:53,320
Needless to say,
we wanted ice cream
658
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,905
every night of every
weekend we were there.
659
00:26:55,905 --> 00:26:58,908
Soon after the drive-in
started showing porno films,
660
00:26:58,908 --> 00:27:00,243
which I guess is
something that happened
661
00:27:00,243 --> 00:27:01,995
in the '70s in America.
662
00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:03,830
Anyway, one night
as we were going
663
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:05,999
to get our chocolate
chip mint ice cream cones,
664
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:09,669
we passed the theater and there,
on the big outdoor screen,
665
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:11,588
I saw my first blowjob.
666
00:27:11,588 --> 00:27:15,342
It was only for like five
seconds, 120 frames of scratchy,
667
00:27:15,342 --> 00:27:18,345
blurred erection and lips,
but it seared into my body
668
00:27:18,345 --> 00:27:21,181
and soul like a dirty
cinematic tattoo.
669
00:27:21,181 --> 00:27:24,184
Obviously, Mark's
parents were not pleased,
670
00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:26,603
and the ice cream
trips ended soon after.
671
00:27:27,771 --> 00:27:30,023
A few years later, I
was at summer camp.
672
00:27:30,023 --> 00:27:33,360
It was a baseball archery
swimming sort of day camp,
673
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,111
bug juice and tether ball,
674
00:27:35,111 --> 00:27:37,113
but my favorite part
was whenever it rained,
675
00:27:37,113 --> 00:27:40,450
they would pull out this creaky
old 16-millimeter projector,
676
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:43,286
pack us into this damp,
rickety wood building,
677
00:27:43,286 --> 00:27:44,621
and show us a movie,
678
00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:46,706
or at least as much of
a movie as was necessary
679
00:27:46,706 --> 00:27:48,541
to weather the rainstorm.
680
00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:50,210
They had a few stock films.
681
00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:52,212
"The Sound of Music"
always bored me,
682
00:27:52,212 --> 00:27:54,381
but sometimes if it was
gonna be days of rain,
683
00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:57,967
they'd rent a 16-millimeter
print of a recent film.
684
00:27:57,967 --> 00:27:59,469
One wet afternoon,
685
00:27:59,469 --> 00:28:01,221
they decided to show us the
action movie, "Breakout,"
686
00:28:01,221 --> 00:28:03,973
starring Charles
Bronson, Robert Duvall,
687
00:28:03,973 --> 00:28:06,226
and Bronson's
wife, Jill Ireland,
688
00:28:06,226 --> 00:28:08,728
who I recognized from an
episode of "Star Trek,"
689
00:28:08,728 --> 00:28:10,980
a show which I
was obsessed with.
690
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:14,150
Here I am as Mr.
Spock for Halloween.
691
00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:16,903
The braces are a nice touch.
692
00:28:16,903 --> 00:28:18,488
I wish I could go back in time
693
00:28:18,488 --> 00:28:21,408
and try to understand the
mindset of the camp director
694
00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:24,744
who thought that showing a
bunch of boys age 8 to 13,
695
00:28:24,744 --> 00:28:27,747
a brutal prison escape
movie was a good idea.
696
00:28:27,747 --> 00:28:29,165
Reel after reel,
697
00:28:29,165 --> 00:28:32,085
we saw scenes of excessive
violence and tawdry melodrama.
698
00:28:32,085 --> 00:28:34,921
It was fantastic, like
some brutally exploitive,
699
00:28:34,921 --> 00:28:37,424
sweaty gift from the movie gods.
700
00:28:37,424 --> 00:28:40,093
[plane roaring]
701
00:28:40,093 --> 00:28:42,595
Finally, in a sequence
where a hooker undresses
702
00:28:42,595 --> 00:28:44,097
and we see her naked rear end,
703
00:28:44,097 --> 00:28:46,015
the camp counselors
came to their senses
704
00:28:46,015 --> 00:28:48,977
and the projector was abruptly
and rudely turned off.
705
00:28:48,977 --> 00:28:52,355
[projector stops whirring]
706
00:28:52,355 --> 00:28:54,107
We sat in darkness.
707
00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:56,609
The only noise being the
sound of the rain pouring down
708
00:28:56,609 --> 00:28:58,111
on the roof outside
709
00:28:58,111 --> 00:29:01,030
and the disappointed sighs
of every kid in the place.
710
00:29:01,030 --> 00:29:02,866
Was "Breakout" a good movie?
711
00:29:02,866 --> 00:29:05,702
Did it contribute to
my cinematic education?
712
00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:09,456
I don't know, but to remember
a film 40 plus years on,
713
00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:11,624
to revere it is something.
714
00:29:11,624 --> 00:29:13,293
It has to be something.
715
00:29:13,293 --> 00:29:16,463
[man screaming]
[suspenseful music]
716
00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:20,717
Soon after my summer
of "Breakout,"
717
00:29:20,717 --> 00:29:22,051
I went with my parents
718
00:29:22,051 --> 00:29:24,304
to the Tower East
Theatre on 71st Street
719
00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:26,055
and Third Avenue to see a film
720
00:29:26,055 --> 00:29:28,808
on the opposite end of
the cinematic spectrum,
721
00:29:28,808 --> 00:29:30,477
one of the greatest movies ever,
722
00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:33,146
Alan Pakula's "All
The President's Men,"
723
00:29:33,146 --> 00:29:35,565
about the true story of
Woodward and Bernstein,
724
00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:37,692
and the Nixon Watergate scandal.
725
00:29:39,736 --> 00:29:43,323
I had never seen a like
that with that intensity.
726
00:29:43,323 --> 00:29:46,075
- [Dahlberg] I know I
shouldn't be telling you this.
727
00:29:48,495 --> 00:29:50,914
I gave it to Mr. Stans.
728
00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:56,503
- I beg your pardon?
729
00:29:56,503 --> 00:29:58,254
- [Dahlberg] I gave it to Stans.
730
00:29:58,254 --> 00:29:59,923
- Maurice Stans?
731
00:29:59,923 --> 00:30:01,841
The head of finance for Nixon?
732
00:30:01,841 --> 00:30:03,843
- [Dahlberg] Yes, in Washington.
733
00:30:03,843 --> 00:30:05,512
- [Richard] I didn't
understand everything
734
00:30:05,512 --> 00:30:07,263
or maybe barely anything,
735
00:30:07,263 --> 00:30:08,765
but I understood enough.
736
00:30:08,765 --> 00:30:11,100
I got that it was
good, that it was deep,
737
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,186
that it was about something.
738
00:30:13,186 --> 00:30:14,604
At dinner at a restaurant after,
739
00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:17,023
I sat and listened to how
adults actually talked
740
00:30:17,023 --> 00:30:20,276
about movies. Passionate,
intelligent film lovers,
741
00:30:20,276 --> 00:30:23,530
arguing, cajoling, going deep.
742
00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:24,948
Occasionally, I
would ask a question,
743
00:30:24,948 --> 00:30:26,866
but mostly I just listened.
744
00:30:26,866 --> 00:30:28,701
Later, I would re-watch the film
745
00:30:28,701 --> 00:30:30,453
and get lost in the details.
746
00:30:30,453 --> 00:30:32,372
The brilliant
acting and writing,
747
00:30:32,372 --> 00:30:35,375
the eerie wide shots,
the scary conspiracy,
748
00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:36,793
in the bright light of day
749
00:30:36,793 --> 00:30:40,213
and the dark shadows of parking
garages full of secrets.
750
00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:42,882
If asked, I usually say
that "The Godfather II" is
751
00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:45,051
the greatest American
movie ever made,
752
00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:47,554
but "All The President's
Men" is right up there.
753
00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:49,055
I knew it even then.
754
00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:53,643
Soon after, I saw "Rocky"
755
00:30:53,643 --> 00:30:55,979
at the Loew's 86th
Street movie theater,
756
00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:58,565
which was across the
park from where I lived.
757
00:30:58,565 --> 00:31:00,650
What a movie going experience.
758
00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:03,653
Hard to imagine it now where
we watch movies on our couch,
759
00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:05,738
but there was an entire
packed audience filled
760
00:31:05,738 --> 00:31:08,408
with mostly adults
cheering at the screen,
761
00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:10,076
cheering at every punch.
762
00:31:10,076 --> 00:31:11,494
My parents were cheering.
763
00:31:11,494 --> 00:31:12,745
To this day,
764
00:31:12,745 --> 00:31:14,247
I think it's one of the
most perfect screenplays
765
00:31:14,247 --> 00:31:15,498
ever filmed.
766
00:31:15,498 --> 00:31:17,500
Written quickly, legend
has it, in three days
767
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:18,918
by Sylvester Stallone,
768
00:31:18,918 --> 00:31:20,587
who was struggling
mightily at the time,
769
00:31:20,587 --> 00:31:23,172
appearing in porn
movies to pay the rent.
770
00:31:23,172 --> 00:31:24,924
One of those X-rated
films was released
771
00:31:24,924 --> 00:31:27,760
as "The Italian Stallion"
after Rocky became a hit.
772
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,013
- I've been hired by
Stallion Releasing Company
773
00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:33,433
to supervise the editing
of this new X-rated film,
774
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:35,018
"The Italian Stallion,"
775
00:31:35,018 --> 00:31:38,521
with Sylvester Stallone in
the starring role as Stud.
776
00:31:39,689 --> 00:31:41,024
- [Richard] Stallone
turned down big money
777
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:42,442
to sell his script for "Rocky,"
778
00:31:42,442 --> 00:31:44,277
so he could star in
the film himself.
779
00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:46,112
He knew it was his shot.
780
00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:48,531
The movie was made down
and dirty in 20 days
781
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:50,366
by the director
John G. Avildsen,
782
00:31:50,366 --> 00:31:52,368
who happened to live
in the same building
783
00:31:52,368 --> 00:31:56,122
where I eventually lost my
virginity on East 89th Street,
784
00:31:56,122 --> 00:31:59,375
a useless fact stuck in
my head for four decades.
785
00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:03,379
With "Rocky," Avildsen and
Stallone created something
786
00:32:03,379 --> 00:32:05,506
that was emotional
and intricate,
787
00:32:05,506 --> 00:32:07,133
thrilling and uplifting.
788
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:10,136
The training scenes were
great, gritty, and tough,
789
00:32:10,136 --> 00:32:13,056
but I also connected to the
smaller quieter moments,
790
00:32:13,056 --> 00:32:16,476
the awkward date with Talia
Shire at the ice skating rink,
791
00:32:16,476 --> 00:32:17,727
the sad, desperate moment
792
00:32:17,727 --> 00:32:19,896
where Burgess
Meredith's Mickey begs
793
00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:21,981
to be brought back
into the fold.
794
00:32:21,981 --> 00:32:23,149
- I got all this knowledge.
795
00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:26,319
I got it up here, now I
want to give it to you.
796
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:27,570
I want to give you
this knowledge.
797
00:32:27,570 --> 00:32:28,821
I want to take care of you.
798
00:32:28,821 --> 00:32:30,490
I wanna make sure
that all this shit
799
00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:32,325
that happened to me
doesn't happen to you.
800
00:32:32,325 --> 00:32:34,577
- [Richard] I loved the
movie and I love my father
801
00:32:34,577 --> 00:32:36,412
because he loved
boxing and boxing films
802
00:32:36,412 --> 00:32:38,247
and it meant everything
that he connected
803
00:32:38,247 --> 00:32:39,999
to the film as much as I did.
804
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:43,002
It was amazing that
they ended the film
805
00:32:43,002 --> 00:32:44,671
with "Rocky" losing the fight.
- [Talia Shire] Rocky!
806
00:32:44,671 --> 00:32:46,506
- [Richard] When the 1980s came,
807
00:32:46,506 --> 00:32:48,758
Rocky couldn't
lose a fight again,
808
00:32:48,758 --> 00:32:50,593
but 1976 was a different time.
809
00:32:50,593 --> 00:32:51,511
- Rocky!
810
00:32:51,511 --> 00:32:52,428
- Adrian!
- Rocky!
811
00:32:52,428 --> 00:32:53,262
I love you!
812
00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:55,348
- I love you.
813
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,100
[upbeat music]
814
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,018
- [Richard] He could
lose, but go the distance,
815
00:32:59,018 --> 00:32:59,936
which was a different,
816
00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:01,938
more important kind of winning.
817
00:33:01,938 --> 00:33:04,107
That landed with me.
818
00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:05,274
- "Rocky."
819
00:33:05,274 --> 00:33:06,275
- [Richard] When "Rocky"
won best picture,
820
00:33:06,275 --> 00:33:07,276
I cheered at the TV.
821
00:33:07,276 --> 00:33:08,528
I was ecstatic.
822
00:33:08,528 --> 00:33:10,780
It was as if I
had won the Oscar.
823
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:12,198
I barely noticed
824
00:33:12,198 --> 00:33:14,951
that "Rocky" had beaten
"All The President's Men."
825
00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:16,202
[door thuds]
826
00:33:16,202 --> 00:33:19,038
[dramatic music]
827
00:33:21,624 --> 00:33:25,628
In May of 1977, I saw "Star
Wars" for the first time.
828
00:33:25,628 --> 00:33:26,963
Like many kids of that era,
829
00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:28,965
that two hours changed my life.
830
00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:30,299
I remember it perfectly.
831
00:33:30,299 --> 00:33:32,468
I could tell you where I
was sitting in the theater,
832
00:33:32,468 --> 00:33:34,554
second to last row
because it was packed
833
00:33:34,554 --> 00:33:36,973
and we got there too
late for better seats.
834
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,809
Like seeing "Blue Velvet" for
the first time a decade later
835
00:33:39,809 --> 00:33:42,061
or "Breaking the Waves"
a decade after that,
836
00:33:42,061 --> 00:33:44,230
or "There Will Be Blood"
a decade after that.
837
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:46,065
I left the theater transformed.
838
00:33:46,065 --> 00:33:49,068
My previous cinematic worldview,
shredded and left for dead.
839
00:33:49,068 --> 00:33:51,154
- No!
840
00:33:51,154 --> 00:33:52,905
- [Richard] I was jacked up and
messed up and invigorated
841
00:33:52,905 --> 00:33:56,075
deeply erotically
passionately in love with
842
00:33:56,075 --> 00:33:58,077
that movie, with all movies.
843
00:33:58,077 --> 00:33:59,579
My dreams of playing third base
844
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:01,497
for the New York Mets
were put on hold.
845
00:34:01,497 --> 00:34:03,249
My attention shifted.
846
00:34:03,249 --> 00:34:05,918
I would make movies.
I would tell stories.
847
00:34:05,918 --> 00:34:08,755
[dramatic music]
848
00:34:11,924 --> 00:34:14,010
For my sixth grade
graduation, I asked my parents
849
00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:16,429
for a Super 8
camera as a present.
850
00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:19,182
This was a game
changer, a life changer.
851
00:34:19,182 --> 00:34:20,933
With my Super 8
camera and projector
852
00:34:20,933 --> 00:34:22,518
and a million film
ideas up my sleeve,
853
00:34:22,518 --> 00:34:25,605
I was chomping at the bit to
start making my own movies.
854
00:34:25,605 --> 00:34:27,023
First, of course,
855
00:34:27,023 --> 00:34:28,858
I obviously needed my own
film production company.
856
00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:31,194
Couldn't do it without a
film production company.
857
00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:33,946
I named it Guiar Pelicula
Motion Picture Company,
858
00:34:33,946 --> 00:34:36,199
which I thought was
Spanish for Shepard Movies,
859
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:37,617
but it wasn't.
860
00:34:37,617 --> 00:34:39,702
Also Shepard Movies Motion
Picture Company wasn't
861
00:34:39,702 --> 00:34:42,205
exactly the cleverest
of production names.
862
00:34:42,205 --> 00:34:44,457
My Aunt Hannah got me
some company T-shirts
863
00:34:44,457 --> 00:34:46,125
as a graduation gift
864
00:34:46,125 --> 00:34:48,211
and Mark Gregory's
dad made me a mug
865
00:34:48,211 --> 00:34:51,464
that put my name in the company
of some great directors.
866
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:56,385
I immediately started making
little films, action pictures,
867
00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,473
mysteries, comedies, using
my friends as actors,
868
00:35:00,473 --> 00:35:03,142
my toy chest as a
prop department.
869
00:35:03,142 --> 00:35:04,811
I tried animation.
870
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:06,562
I tried disaster films.
871
00:35:06,562 --> 00:35:09,816
Here you can see New York
gets submerged in a flood.
872
00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:12,819
While making "A Test
to Fail," a mafia movie,
873
00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:15,822
I had my friend Peter
Schwartz strangle the bad guy,
874
00:35:15,822 --> 00:35:18,825
played with great menace
by my father, to death.
875
00:35:18,825 --> 00:35:21,702
[cheerful music]
876
00:35:23,496 --> 00:35:26,082
Later, his body was
thrown out the window.
877
00:35:26,082 --> 00:35:28,251
That was actually my
favorite stuffed animal
878
00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:30,670
and it accidentally landed
on the awning of my building
879
00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:33,089
where we had to bribe
our super, Mr. Martinez,
880
00:35:33,089 --> 00:35:34,590
to retrieve it.
881
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:37,343
For a war film, I made with
my friend, Simon Stark,
882
00:35:37,343 --> 00:35:40,096
we took turns operating
the camera and acting.
883
00:35:40,096 --> 00:35:43,349
I played a Nazi guard and he
played an escaped prisoner.
884
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:44,934
I'm still not sure
what his neighbors
885
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,936
in the Jewish enclave
of Scarsdale, New York,
886
00:35:46,936 --> 00:35:48,521
thought of the two of us running
887
00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:50,773
around with fake
blood and fake guns.
888
00:35:50,773 --> 00:35:52,358
I do know we were
extremely lucky
889
00:35:52,358 --> 00:35:55,278
that the giant exploding
swastika fire we set,
890
00:35:55,278 --> 00:35:57,363
with lighter fluid
in his backyard
891
00:35:57,363 --> 00:35:58,781
for our incredible finale
892
00:35:58,781 --> 00:36:02,451
where the Nazi dies, didn't
burn the entire street down.
893
00:36:05,204 --> 00:36:06,706
The fact was I was hooked.
894
00:36:06,706 --> 00:36:09,208
Christmas couldn't
come fast enough
895
00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:12,295
so I could get a film
splicer and editing system.
896
00:36:12,295 --> 00:36:13,629
- [Paul Stewart] Well, Charles?
897
00:36:13,629 --> 00:36:16,299
- [Richard] My birthday
brought a sound Super 8 camera.
898
00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:17,633
- Merry Christmas.
899
00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:18,801
- [Richard] It was all
I was thinking about.
900
00:36:18,801 --> 00:36:20,303
- Rosebud.
901
00:36:20,303 --> 00:36:21,971
- [Richard] Of course,
my grades suffered.
902
00:36:21,971 --> 00:36:23,806
There were tutors, panic.
903
00:36:23,806 --> 00:36:25,474
I had to switch schools.
904
00:36:25,474 --> 00:36:26,726
- But I was going
into Tosche Station
905
00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:28,561
to pick up some
power converters.
906
00:36:28,561 --> 00:36:29,896
- You can waste time
with your friends
907
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,063
when your chores are done.
908
00:36:31,063 --> 00:36:32,481
Now come on, get to it.
909
00:36:32,481 --> 00:36:33,649
- [Richard] My mother
worried about me,
910
00:36:33,649 --> 00:36:35,568
but my dad seemed to understand.
911
00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:37,987
If his own father had tried to
quash his creative instincts,
912
00:36:37,987 --> 00:36:41,657
my dad made sure to encourage
mine, at least up to a point,
913
00:36:41,657 --> 00:36:43,492
and that point was his wallet.
914
00:36:43,492 --> 00:36:46,162
All my movie making
ambitions were expensive
915
00:36:46,162 --> 00:36:47,663
and my parents were
quickly losing interest
916
00:36:47,663 --> 00:36:50,082
in being my personal
film financier,
917
00:36:50,082 --> 00:36:53,085
so I resorted to other
methods to get my movies made,
918
00:36:53,085 --> 00:36:54,921
subterfuge and crime.
919
00:36:54,921 --> 00:36:56,422
When one day,
920
00:36:56,422 --> 00:36:58,341
a roll of my Super 8 film
got developed incorrectly,
921
00:36:58,341 --> 00:37:01,260
they gave me a free roll
of film to make up for it.
922
00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:02,595
Using this knowledge
923
00:37:02,595 --> 00:37:04,680
and blaming the lack of
receipt on my parents,
924
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,098
I went from camera store
925
00:37:06,098 --> 00:37:08,100
to camera store throughout
the city lying about
926
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,353
how they up fucked my movie
when they developed it,
927
00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:13,189
and getting free rolls
of film in return.
928
00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:15,024
Later in high school, I
got the kids in my class
929
00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:16,442
to bake cookies and brownies
930
00:37:16,442 --> 00:37:18,110
and I would do bake
sales on Lexington Avenue
931
00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:19,779
to raise money for my movies.
932
00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:21,864
I was a hustler even then,
933
00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:24,867
and that's because I was a
scab-filled street junkie.
934
00:37:24,867 --> 00:37:28,371
I was addicted to movies, to
watching them, to making them.
935
00:37:28,371 --> 00:37:30,122
I constantly needed a fix.
936
00:37:30,122 --> 00:37:32,959
I subscribed to
"American Film" magazine,
937
00:37:32,959 --> 00:37:35,294
read every issue cover to cover.
938
00:37:35,294 --> 00:37:37,463
I bought every book I
could get my hands on.
939
00:37:37,463 --> 00:37:41,550
"The Making of 2001,"
"Halliwell's Film Guide,"
940
00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:43,135
and "The Movie Brats,"
941
00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:46,055
which discussed how many of
my directorial heroes had gone
942
00:37:46,055 --> 00:37:47,807
to film school.
943
00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:49,976
I made a mental note.
944
00:37:49,976 --> 00:37:51,978
Filmmaking ignited
something in me.
945
00:37:51,978 --> 00:37:53,980
It engulfed me and
held me in its sway now
946
00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:55,648
for more than 40 years.
947
00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:57,149
Why?
948
00:37:57,149 --> 00:38:00,152
Who was this 13-year-old
boy that had to make films?
949
00:38:00,152 --> 00:38:03,239
It brought me joy, I know
that, instantaneous joy,
950
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,408
but lots of things at
that age brought me joy.
951
00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:06,742
It was more than that.
952
00:38:06,742 --> 00:38:08,411
I think there was this
sense of satisfaction
953
00:38:08,411 --> 00:38:11,664
with my filmmaking, of
completion, of success.
954
00:38:11,664 --> 00:38:13,499
With every bad grade
and worse report card,
955
00:38:13,499 --> 00:38:15,835
I still had this thing
that made me feel important
956
00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:17,336
and worth something.
957
00:38:17,336 --> 00:38:19,171
I had success instead of failure
958
00:38:19,171 --> 00:38:20,965
and I fucking breathed it in.
959
00:38:22,341 --> 00:38:25,344
♪ My anxiety ♪
960
00:38:25,344 --> 00:38:28,848
♪ It's always the same ♪
961
00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:31,017
- [Richard] At a certain
point, as I got older,
962
00:38:31,017 --> 00:38:33,352
my father basically
stopped taking me to movies
963
00:38:33,352 --> 00:38:35,187
he didn't wanna watch himself.
964
00:38:35,187 --> 00:38:38,107
If I wanted to see,
"Love At First Bite"
965
00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:41,610
with "Bad News Bears
in Japan," or "Meteor."
966
00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:43,696
- That meteor's five miles wide
967
00:38:43,696 --> 00:38:45,531
and it's definitely
gonna hit us!
968
00:38:45,531 --> 00:38:47,950
- [Richard] I could go with
my friends or with my mom,
969
00:38:47,950 --> 00:38:51,037
but my dad was done
slumming it with me.
970
00:38:51,037 --> 00:38:55,541
This was a blow, a wake
up call to a new reality.
971
00:38:55,541 --> 00:38:59,045
Going to the movies with my
parents, both my parents,
972
00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:00,546
was what I was used to.
973
00:39:00,546 --> 00:39:01,797
No matter what the film,
974
00:39:01,797 --> 00:39:03,549
we went as a family.
975
00:39:03,549 --> 00:39:05,384
That my father would
just walk away from
976
00:39:05,384 --> 00:39:07,303
that was staggering.
977
00:39:07,303 --> 00:39:10,556
He was my movie
teacher, my hero.
978
00:39:10,556 --> 00:39:12,266
How could he do this to me?
979
00:39:13,225 --> 00:39:16,228
The fact was he no longer
saw me as a little kid.
980
00:39:16,228 --> 00:39:18,397
He no longer felt that
he needed to coddle me,
981
00:39:18,397 --> 00:39:20,649
especially when it
came to the movies.
982
00:39:20,649 --> 00:39:23,402
From now on, if I wanted
to go to films with my dad,
983
00:39:23,402 --> 00:39:25,237
it had to be tagging
along to the movies
984
00:39:25,237 --> 00:39:28,824
that he wanted to see,
movies made for adults.
985
00:39:28,824 --> 00:39:32,161
[helicopters whirring]
986
00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:35,748
That's how I ended up
going with my father
987
00:39:35,748 --> 00:39:39,418
to see a certain movie that
would change my life forever.
988
00:39:39,418 --> 00:39:42,421
It was a Saturday afternoon
in the spring of 1980.
989
00:39:42,421 --> 00:39:43,756
We went to the
New Yorker Theatre
990
00:39:43,756 --> 00:39:45,591
on 89th Street and Broadway,
991
00:39:45,591 --> 00:39:48,010
which was only a few
blocks from my home.
992
00:39:48,010 --> 00:39:51,180
The New Yorker was a great
Upper West Side institution.
993
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:52,515
I loved it there.
994
00:39:52,515 --> 00:39:53,933
Never more so than
995
00:39:53,933 --> 00:39:56,435
when I saw the film my
dad took me to that day.
996
00:39:56,435 --> 00:40:00,106
Francis Ford Coppola's
"Apocalypse Now."
997
00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:01,774
"Apocalypse Now"
was the first movie
998
00:40:01,774 --> 00:40:04,360
that made me truly understand
what a director did.
999
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,445
The images and
sequences that Coppola
1000
00:40:06,445 --> 00:40:09,532
and cinematographer Vittorio
Storaro created together are
1001
00:40:09,532 --> 00:40:12,952
embedded in cinema
history and in my history.
1002
00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:17,790
I love the use of color,
the music, and sound design.
1003
00:40:19,291 --> 00:40:22,711
The helicopter
dissolving into a fan.
1004
00:40:22,711 --> 00:40:25,631
I loved Han Solo playing
a small supporting part
1005
00:40:25,631 --> 00:40:27,383
in awkward glasses.
1006
00:40:27,383 --> 00:40:29,468
I love Francis Ford
Coppola's cameo.
1007
00:40:29,468 --> 00:40:30,886
- Don't look at the camera.
1008
00:40:30,886 --> 00:40:32,638
Just go by like you're
fighting, like you're fighting!
1009
00:40:32,638 --> 00:40:34,056
Don't look at the camera!
1010
00:40:34,056 --> 00:40:35,808
It's for television,
just go through!
1011
00:40:35,808 --> 00:40:37,810
- [Richard] I love
Martin Sheen's voice,
1012
00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:40,479
the beautiful way his
narration was recorded.
1013
00:40:40,479 --> 00:40:43,023
- [Martin Sheen] How many
people had I already killed?
1014
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,694
There were those six that
I knew about for sure.
1015
00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:50,739
Close enough to blow their
last breath in my face.
1016
00:40:52,658 --> 00:40:55,494
- [Richard] With "Apocalypse
Now" I finally understood
1017
00:40:55,494 --> 00:40:58,831
for the first time
that one person working
1018
00:40:58,831 --> 00:41:02,835
with many people had driven
all these things to the screen,
1019
00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:05,087
had dreamt it and
made it happen,
1020
00:41:05,087 --> 00:41:07,756
had directed the
movie to existence.
1021
00:41:09,008 --> 00:41:11,093
I was so obsessed about
the film that I went
1022
00:41:11,093 --> 00:41:13,304
to Jerry Ohlinger's
Movie Materials shop
1023
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:14,513
on West Third Street
1024
00:41:14,513 --> 00:41:18,601
{\an8}and bought the film's poster
with the great art by Bob Peak.
1025
00:41:18,601 --> 00:41:21,020
{\an8}It hung on my wall for years.
1026
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,189
I bought notes,
Eleanor Coppola's book
1027
00:41:23,189 --> 00:41:24,773
about the making of
her husband's film,
1028
00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:27,359
and I read it religiously,
trying to soak it in,
1029
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:28,527
trying to learn what
it would be like
1030
00:41:28,527 --> 00:41:30,446
to make something so brilliant.
1031
00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:32,281
"The teeth in my
soul have cavities,"
1032
00:41:32,281 --> 00:41:34,283
she quotes Francis
Coppola saying.
1033
00:41:34,283 --> 00:41:36,619
I still remember
circling that one.
1034
00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:39,538
I bought the record, a double
album with dialogue and music
1035
00:41:39,538 --> 00:41:41,457
and narration from the film.
1036
00:41:41,457 --> 00:41:44,376
I attached many extension cords
to my portable record player
1037
00:41:44,376 --> 00:41:47,129
and brought it out to the
backyard of our vacation rental
1038
00:41:47,129 --> 00:41:49,048
and listened all summer long.
1039
00:41:49,048 --> 00:41:51,467
I memorized the entirety
of Michael Herr's narration
1040
00:41:51,467 --> 00:41:52,384
for the film.
1041
00:41:52,384 --> 00:41:55,137
- [Richard and Michael]
Saigon. Shit.
1042
00:41:55,137 --> 00:41:56,889
I'm still only in Saigon.
1043
00:41:56,889 --> 00:41:58,474
- [Richard] "Every time
I think I'm gonna wake up
1044
00:41:58,474 --> 00:41:59,725
back in the jungle."
1045
00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:02,478
- Are you an assassin?
1046
00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:03,896
- I'm a soldier.
1047
00:42:03,896 --> 00:42:06,273
[brooding music]
1048
00:42:06,273 --> 00:42:07,483
- You are neither.
1049
00:42:07,483 --> 00:42:10,152
[brooding music]
1050
00:42:10,152 --> 00:42:11,987
You're an errand boy
1051
00:42:12,988 --> 00:42:17,243
sent by grocery clerks
to collect a bill.
1052
00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:21,997
- [Richard] "Apocalypse Now"
changed the way I saw movies.
1053
00:42:21,997 --> 00:42:26,252
It opened my mind, blew
away my expectations.
1054
00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:28,003
I was never the same.
1055
00:42:28,003 --> 00:42:30,506
[brooding music]
1056
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:33,259
Westport, Connecticut is where
I obsessively listened to
1057
00:42:33,259 --> 00:42:35,594
that "Apocalypse Now"
soundtrack album
1058
00:42:35,594 --> 00:42:37,012
and as far back as I remember,
1059
00:42:37,012 --> 00:42:39,014
summers were spent up there.
1060
00:42:39,014 --> 00:42:40,432
Other than weekends,
1061
00:42:40,432 --> 00:42:42,768
my dad mostly stayed
in the city to work,
1062
00:42:42,768 --> 00:42:44,770
so it was usually
just me and my mom,
1063
00:42:44,770 --> 00:42:46,855
and that was fine by me.
1064
00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:48,941
She was great
movie going company
1065
00:42:48,941 --> 00:42:51,110
and many a warm summer
night of my youth
1066
00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:53,112
was spent getting lost together
1067
00:42:53,112 --> 00:42:56,282
in whatever film was playing
at the local movie theater.
1068
00:42:56,282 --> 00:42:59,368
Oh, the summers were
a glorious time.
1069
00:42:59,368 --> 00:43:02,288
My mom and I went to see
almost every movie I wanted.
1070
00:43:02,288 --> 00:43:05,874
From "Meatballs" to
"Uptown Saturday Night,"
1071
00:43:05,874 --> 00:43:09,461
if it played in
Westport, we were there.
1072
00:43:09,461 --> 00:43:13,048
A few years before "Apocalypse
Now," when I was 10,
1073
00:43:13,048 --> 00:43:16,385
I begged and begged my
mother to take me to "Jaws."
1074
00:43:16,385 --> 00:43:18,137
It was all anyone
was talking about
1075
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,223
in the summer of 1975.
1076
00:43:21,223 --> 00:43:22,808
My mother finally relented
1077
00:43:22,808 --> 00:43:25,394
and we saw it at the Fine
Arts Theatre in Westport.
1078
00:43:25,394 --> 00:43:27,146
[screaming]
1079
00:43:27,146 --> 00:43:28,606
It was there that the second
1080
00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:30,065
of the three biggest scares
1081
00:43:30,065 --> 00:43:32,234
that a movie happened to me.
1082
00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:34,903
Not when the head pops
out of the sunken boat,
1083
00:43:34,903 --> 00:43:36,655
though that was terrifying.
1084
00:43:36,655 --> 00:43:38,657
Not when the boy was
attacked at the beach
1085
00:43:38,657 --> 00:43:41,577
after everyone finally
went back in the water.
1086
00:43:41,577 --> 00:43:44,330
No, it was when Roy Scheider
was casually throwing chum
1087
00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:45,664
into the ocean.
- I can go slow ahead.
1088
00:43:45,664 --> 00:43:47,666
Come on down and chum
some of this shit.
1089
00:43:47,666 --> 00:43:49,168
[water splashing]
1090
00:43:49,168 --> 00:43:51,837
- [Richard] Holy shit, that
scared the hell out of me.
1091
00:43:51,837 --> 00:43:54,256
My mother, of course, instantly
regretted the decision
1092
00:43:54,256 --> 00:43:55,507
to take me to "Jaws"
1093
00:43:55,507 --> 00:43:57,426
as I was totally
terrified by the movie.
1094
00:43:57,426 --> 00:43:58,510
- Did you hear your father?
1095
00:43:58,510 --> 00:43:59,845
Out of the water now!
1096
00:43:59,845 --> 00:44:01,180
- [Richard] Though I loved it.
1097
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:03,432
And subsequently, like much
of America that summer,
1098
00:44:03,432 --> 00:44:05,684
I refused to go into the water.
1099
00:44:05,684 --> 00:44:08,020
That didn't stop me from
buying "The Jaws Log,"
1100
00:44:08,020 --> 00:44:10,189
a book by one of the
film screenwriters.
1101
00:44:10,189 --> 00:44:12,024
It was a true behind-
the-scenes story
1102
00:44:12,024 --> 00:44:13,942
and I ate up each
delicious page.
1103
00:44:13,942 --> 00:44:16,695
I felt like I was almost a
member of the film's crew
1104
00:44:16,695 --> 00:44:17,863
and even as a 10 year old,
1105
00:44:17,863 --> 00:44:19,948
that's desperately
where I wanted to be.
1106
00:44:19,948 --> 00:44:21,533
[water splashing]
[screaming]
1107
00:44:21,533 --> 00:44:25,621
I was terrified by the movie,
but wildly inspired by it.
1108
00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:28,791
My sweet mother,
1109
00:44:28,791 --> 00:44:32,127
what she must have thought
after taking me to "Jaws."
1110
00:44:32,127 --> 00:44:35,714
She's lost to dementia
now, barely remembering me,
1111
00:44:35,714 --> 00:44:38,217
but I still have so
many questions for her,
1112
00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:41,887
so many movie memories
that only she and I shared.
1113
00:44:41,887 --> 00:44:44,973
[melancholic music]
1114
00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:49,395
[brooding music]
1115
00:44:49,395 --> 00:44:53,482
- [Narrator] It's the biggest,
it's the best, it's Bond.
1116
00:44:53,482 --> 00:44:55,317
- [Richard] After
the summer of "Jaws,"
1117
00:44:55,317 --> 00:44:57,986
my mother and I had better
Westport movie success
1118
00:44:57,986 --> 00:45:00,072
with the "James Bond" films.
1119
00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:02,491
We saw "The Spy Who Loved
Me" and "Moonraker."
1120
00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:04,159
We saw "The Revenge
of the Pink Panther"
1121
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,078
and "The Pink Panther
Strikes Again."
1122
00:45:06,078 --> 00:45:07,079
[glasses shattering]
1123
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,497
One of my favorite films I saw
1124
00:45:08,497 --> 00:45:11,417
during the summertime
was "Breaking Away,"
1125
00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:14,837
directed by Peter Yates and
written by Steve Tesich.
1126
00:45:16,588 --> 00:45:19,842
My mother and I actually saw
it twice in the summer of '79
1127
00:45:19,842 --> 00:45:22,177
as it played at the local
theater from June to August
1128
00:45:22,177 --> 00:45:23,679
back when movies
would play for months,
1129
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,098
slowly finding their audience.
1130
00:45:26,098 --> 00:45:29,268
Seeing this film about four
friends' endless summer days
1131
00:45:29,268 --> 00:45:31,103
and a bike race that
changes their lives.
1132
00:45:31,103 --> 00:45:32,688
I instantly fell hard for it,
1133
00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:35,441
especially for the scenes
of the friends hanging out.
1134
00:45:35,441 --> 00:45:37,860
They seem like real
people, real buddies,
1135
00:45:37,860 --> 00:45:39,778
funny and competitive
with each other.
1136
00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:42,823
- How'd you get to
be so stupid, Cyril?
1137
00:45:43,699 --> 00:45:45,534
- I don't know.
1138
00:45:45,534 --> 00:45:47,035
Guess I have a dumb
heredity or something.
1139
00:45:47,035 --> 00:45:48,954
What's your excuse, Michael?
1140
00:45:48,954 --> 00:45:50,622
[Michael laughs]
1141
00:45:50,622 --> 00:45:52,791
- [Richard] "Breaking Away"
was the perfect summer movie.
1142
00:45:52,791 --> 00:45:55,711
It was light and funny,
but also real and resonant.
1143
00:45:55,711 --> 00:45:58,380
[actor singing]
1144
00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:00,048
The kids in the movie
were older than me
1145
00:46:00,048 --> 00:46:01,633
and definitely different,
but I connected
1146
00:46:01,633 --> 00:46:03,969
to the way they talked and hung
out and the dreams they had.
1147
00:46:03,969 --> 00:46:05,387
- How you doing, guys?
1148
00:46:06,305 --> 00:46:08,140
- Well, we're a little disturbed
1149
00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:09,600
by the developments
in the Middle East,
1150
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,809
but other than that.
1151
00:46:10,809 --> 00:46:14,313
[upbeat victory music]
[audience cheering]
1152
00:46:14,313 --> 00:46:16,315
[upbeat music]
1153
00:46:16,315 --> 00:46:18,567
- [Richard] One of the oddest
films I saw with my mom in
1154
00:46:18,567 --> 00:46:20,444
Connecticut was a PG version
1155
00:46:20,444 --> 00:46:22,237
of "Saturday Night Fever,"
1156
00:46:22,237 --> 00:46:23,739
which Paramount
Pictures released
1157
00:46:23,739 --> 00:46:27,242
after the original R-rated
version became a mega hit.
1158
00:46:27,242 --> 00:46:28,577
My mother had loved the movie
1159
00:46:28,577 --> 00:46:30,329
and played the soundtrack often,
1160
00:46:30,329 --> 00:46:32,080
but she wouldn't let me see it.
1161
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,249
"Too inappropriate," she said.
1162
00:46:34,249 --> 00:46:36,418
This pissed me off
to no end, but at 12,
1163
00:46:36,418 --> 00:46:39,004
with no car and stranded
in our country house,
1164
00:46:39,004 --> 00:46:40,589
I had no choice but to brood
1165
00:46:40,589 --> 00:46:42,341
and endure everyone
talking about a movie
1166
00:46:42,341 --> 00:46:44,092
I was unable to see.
1167
00:46:44,092 --> 00:46:45,677
Finally,
1168
00:46:45,677 --> 00:46:47,012
when this more family-
friendly version was released,
1169
00:46:47,012 --> 00:46:49,681
I got to check out what all
the commotion was about.
1170
00:46:50,516 --> 00:46:52,100
I liked it, I guess.
1171
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:54,520
Sure, the dancing
and music was cool,
1172
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,688
but I knew I was
missing something.
1173
00:46:56,688 --> 00:46:58,106
I was missing the good part
1174
00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:01,026
and not just the nudity
in four letter words.
1175
00:47:02,277 --> 00:47:04,947
Later, when I saw the
original R-rated cut on VHS
1176
00:47:04,947 --> 00:47:09,201
in 11th grade, I was blown
away by what was cut out.
1177
00:47:09,201 --> 00:47:11,370
Instead of just a dance
movie about a young guy
1178
00:47:11,370 --> 00:47:12,871
with big city dreams,
1179
00:47:12,871 --> 00:47:14,623
"Saturday Night
Fever" was a dark,
1180
00:47:14,623 --> 00:47:16,124
yet honest look at flawed,
1181
00:47:16,124 --> 00:47:19,878
complex people with real
troubles as well as real dreams.
1182
00:47:19,878 --> 00:47:21,964
Travolta was still
deeply likable,
1183
00:47:21,964 --> 00:47:24,883
but he now existed in a
world with hurt and anger
1184
00:47:24,883 --> 00:47:27,719
and death where a girl
could be horribly assaulted
1185
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,471
in the backseat of a car,
1186
00:47:29,471 --> 00:47:32,641
where pain was as much
a factor as pleasure.
1187
00:47:32,641 --> 00:47:35,978
In other words, it was a
classic '70s American movie.
1188
00:47:35,978 --> 00:47:37,729
The flaws were the point,
1189
00:47:37,729 --> 00:47:40,399
the humanity exposed
by the truthfulness,
1190
00:47:40,399 --> 00:47:43,235
and it still had a
killer soundtrack
1191
00:47:43,235 --> 00:47:45,988
and a perfect beautiful
John Travolta.
1192
00:47:47,573 --> 00:47:51,076
One summer day, I was in a
small Westport bookstore,
1193
00:47:51,076 --> 00:47:53,078
biding my time as
my mother shopped
1194
00:47:53,078 --> 00:47:55,414
at the farm stand
across the street.
1195
00:47:55,414 --> 00:47:57,499
Suddenly, she ran
into the store,
1196
00:47:57,499 --> 00:48:00,002
all flush and frazzled,
yanked my hand and said,
1197
00:48:00,002 --> 00:48:02,754
"Come with me," as if
our house was on fire.
1198
00:48:02,754 --> 00:48:04,506
My mother quickly dragged
me across the street
1199
00:48:04,506 --> 00:48:06,258
and shoved me into
the farm stand
1200
00:48:06,258 --> 00:48:08,260
and right up next to a
gentleman in sunglasses
1201
00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:09,928
checking out the peaches.
1202
00:48:09,928 --> 00:48:13,682
This is how I got to see Paul
Newman up close and personal.
1203
00:48:13,682 --> 00:48:15,934
For years after, I would joke
that my mother only used me
1204
00:48:15,934 --> 00:48:20,022
as a cute prop, a way in so
she could smile flirtatiously
1205
00:48:20,022 --> 00:48:21,773
and bat her eyes at him,
1206
00:48:21,773 --> 00:48:24,192
but now I understand that she
probably really did it for me,
1207
00:48:24,192 --> 00:48:26,528
as she always said,
because my mother knew
1208
00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:29,281
how much I loved "The Sting"
and "The Towering Inferno,"
1209
00:48:29,281 --> 00:48:30,449
and movies.
1210
00:48:30,449 --> 00:48:31,867
And she knew that seeing
1211
00:48:31,867 --> 00:48:34,369
a star like Paul Newman up
close would stay with me.
1212
00:48:34,369 --> 00:48:36,288
I soon found out that
New York City was great
1213
00:48:36,288 --> 00:48:38,123
for spotting movie stars
1214
00:48:38,123 --> 00:48:40,292
and running into
them gave me a high.
1215
00:48:41,710 --> 00:48:44,296
I saw Sylvester Stallone and
John Travolta walking together
1216
00:48:44,296 --> 00:48:46,381
in matching fur coats
on the Upper West Side
1217
00:48:46,381 --> 00:48:49,801
as they were making
"Staying Alive."
1218
00:48:49,801 --> 00:48:51,303
One day, my father made
the mistake of telling me
1219
00:48:51,303 --> 00:48:54,473
that he had just spotted
Roy Scheider browsing
1220
00:48:54,473 --> 00:48:55,974
at the New Yorker Bookstore,
1221
00:48:55,974 --> 00:48:58,310
which is above the New Yorker
Theatre in my neighborhood.
1222
00:48:58,310 --> 00:49:00,729
This was serious film nerd news.
1223
00:49:00,729 --> 00:49:03,899
[suspenseful music]
1224
00:49:05,317 --> 00:49:07,069
I mean, here was
the star of "Jaws"
1225
00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:09,821
at a bookstore only a few
blocks from my apartment.
1226
00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:11,823
I vowed to run into him myself
1227
00:49:11,823 --> 00:49:13,158
and spent many,
many hours roaming
1228
00:49:13,158 --> 00:49:15,327
the aisles of the
place looking for him.
1229
00:49:15,327 --> 00:49:17,079
It never happened, of course,
1230
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:18,664
though I did fall in
love with the bookstore
1231
00:49:18,664 --> 00:49:20,082
during that time.
1232
00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:22,000
Trips there were always special.
1233
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,920
My dad bought cigars at the
indoor newsstand below it
1234
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,422
and then we'd go up the
narrow spiral staircase
1235
00:49:27,422 --> 00:49:30,092
to this massive,
mysterious store above.
1236
00:49:30,092 --> 00:49:32,344
I can still remember the
dusty smell of the place
1237
00:49:32,344 --> 00:49:35,222
and, of course, where
the film section was.
1238
00:49:36,431 --> 00:49:39,434
If I saw my dad as Errol
Flynn when I was a kid
1239
00:49:39,434 --> 00:49:42,020
and then Humphrey
Bogart as I got older,
1240
00:49:42,020 --> 00:49:45,190
by the time I was 14, I
became completely convinced
1241
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:46,525
that he most resembled
1242
00:49:46,525 --> 00:49:48,694
the lunatic character
Peter Falk played
1243
00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:52,531
in the perfectly bonkers
comedy, "The In-Laws."
1244
00:49:52,531 --> 00:49:54,366
Falk played a slightly deranged,
1245
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:56,702
though completely
lovable CIA agent
1246
00:49:56,702 --> 00:49:58,787
who had a very hard
time with the truth
1247
00:49:58,787 --> 00:50:01,123
and an even harder time
staying out of trouble.
1248
00:50:01,123 --> 00:50:04,626
Like my dad, Falk in the
movie had secret identities
1249
00:50:04,626 --> 00:50:06,545
and mysterious agendas.
1250
00:50:06,545 --> 00:50:08,964
My father wasn't traveling
all over the world getting
1251
00:50:08,964 --> 00:50:12,551
into comic trouble, but he
just as well could have been.
1252
00:50:12,551 --> 00:50:14,970
He did things that made
no sense at the time,
1253
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:17,222
but seemed vitally
important to him.
1254
00:50:17,222 --> 00:50:19,057
Some were small like his refusal
1255
00:50:19,057 --> 00:50:21,309
to pay admission
prices to anything.
1256
00:50:21,309 --> 00:50:23,729
If it were an antique fair,
he would always sneak us in
1257
00:50:23,729 --> 00:50:25,063
through the service entrance
1258
00:50:25,063 --> 00:50:27,232
rather than pay a
dollar to get in.
1259
00:50:27,232 --> 00:50:28,817
Or he'd speak in gibberish
1260
00:50:28,817 --> 00:50:32,070
until the person at the front
door gave up and let us in.
1261
00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:34,406
He'd tell my mother he was
betting only a hundred dollars
1262
00:50:34,406 --> 00:50:37,743
on a boxing match, but I'd
see thousands of dollars come
1263
00:50:37,743 --> 00:50:41,246
and go, and I knew
he was lying to her.
1264
00:50:41,246 --> 00:50:44,249
But the biggest move my father
made was a day he announced
1265
00:50:44,249 --> 00:50:47,252
to me and my mom that he
would no longer be speaking
1266
00:50:47,252 --> 00:50:50,422
to his own father or
his brothers ever again.
1267
00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:53,341
Even for my dad, this seemed
like a crazy thing to do.
1268
00:50:53,341 --> 00:50:56,178
He was cutting off
his family completely.
1269
00:50:56,178 --> 00:50:58,764
When I probed him further, he
told me that his whole life,
1270
00:50:58,764 --> 00:51:01,266
they never understood
him, never encouraged him,
1271
00:51:01,266 --> 00:51:03,351
and he needed to
expunge them now
1272
00:51:03,351 --> 00:51:06,438
in order to finally feel
free and be fully happy.
1273
00:51:06,438 --> 00:51:08,774
He said one day he would
explain the whole story,
1274
00:51:08,774 --> 00:51:10,108
but for now, I
just had to accept
1275
00:51:10,108 --> 00:51:12,110
that it was something
my father had to do,
1276
00:51:12,110 --> 00:51:13,779
so that was that.
1277
00:51:13,779 --> 00:51:16,448
Making that heartbreakingly
difficult decision
1278
00:51:16,448 --> 00:51:17,949
in order to help himself
1279
00:51:17,949 --> 00:51:20,118
showed me that my father
had a level of guts
1280
00:51:20,118 --> 00:51:21,787
I couldn't imagine.
1281
00:51:21,787 --> 00:51:23,371
In the movies, I
always saw courage
1282
00:51:23,371 --> 00:51:25,624
as Rod Taylor
saving Tippi Hedren
1283
00:51:25,624 --> 00:51:29,211
as the birds attacked
her in Hitchcock's Film.
1284
00:51:29,211 --> 00:51:31,546
Or Richard Dreyfuss
getting on the mothership
1285
00:51:31,546 --> 00:51:34,216
with the aliens in
"Close Encounters."
1286
00:51:34,216 --> 00:51:35,550
But in my real life,
1287
00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:38,720
I had never seen a braver
thing done by anybody.
1288
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:41,723
[somber music]
1289
00:51:41,723 --> 00:51:45,143
[man singing in Italian]
1290
00:51:52,317 --> 00:51:53,652
With my father's open wounds
1291
00:51:53,652 --> 00:51:55,987
about his own
family now exposed,
1292
00:51:55,987 --> 00:51:57,739
he decided I was mature enough
1293
00:51:57,739 --> 00:52:01,159
to appreciate the most famous
movie made about a family,
1294
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:03,578
Francis Ford Coppola's
"The Godfather"
1295
00:52:03,578 --> 00:52:05,831
and "Godfather Part II."
1296
00:52:05,831 --> 00:52:08,083
The movies were playing in
revival at the Regency Theatre
1297
00:52:08,083 --> 00:52:10,335
on West 67th Street.
1298
00:52:10,335 --> 00:52:11,920
Those movies were
a lot to take in
1299
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,172
and I would have to see
them both many times more
1300
00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:16,007
to fully get their impact,
1301
00:52:16,007 --> 00:52:18,009
but it clarified
my youthful belief
1302
00:52:18,009 --> 00:52:19,511
that Francis Ford Coppola was
1303
00:52:19,511 --> 00:52:21,847
the greatest
filmmaker of all time.
1304
00:52:21,847 --> 00:52:23,098
Something I also noted was
1305
00:52:23,098 --> 00:52:25,183
that the actor playing
Fredo had a quality
1306
00:52:25,183 --> 00:52:27,352
that just cut to my heart.
1307
00:52:27,352 --> 00:52:30,605
I related to his
loneliness, his otherness.
1308
00:52:30,605 --> 00:52:32,107
There was a sadness in his eyes,
1309
00:52:32,107 --> 00:52:34,276
a weakness in him amongst
all the other machismo
1310
00:52:34,276 --> 00:52:37,195
in the films, and I
deeply connected to it.
1311
00:52:37,195 --> 00:52:38,446
In college, I put together
1312
00:52:38,446 --> 00:52:41,032
that the same actor from
the Godfathers was
1313
00:52:41,032 --> 00:52:43,702
also in "The Conversation,"
"Dog Day Afternoon,"
1314
00:52:43,702 --> 00:52:45,036
and "The Deer Hunter."
1315
00:52:45,036 --> 00:52:47,038
And that I loved him
in all those films.
1316
00:52:47,038 --> 00:52:50,208
Years later, I would make
a documentary for HBO.
1317
00:52:50,208 --> 00:52:53,545
"I Knew It Was You.
Rediscovering John Cazale,"
1318
00:52:53,545 --> 00:52:55,547
and would be able to
shine a light on the man
1319
00:52:55,547 --> 00:52:57,132
who only did five movies,
1320
00:52:57,132 --> 00:52:58,383
all of them classics,
1321
00:52:58,383 --> 00:53:00,886
all of them nominated
for best picture.
1322
00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:03,889
It was an incredible
run, never duplicated.
1323
00:53:03,889 --> 00:53:06,224
Cazale was Al
Pacino's best friend,
1324
00:53:06,224 --> 00:53:07,809
Meryl Streep's boyfriend,
1325
00:53:07,809 --> 00:53:09,644
and he died of cancer at 42.
1326
00:53:09,644 --> 00:53:12,647
Of the bountiful pleasures
in doing that documentary,
1327
00:53:12,647 --> 00:53:14,399
the best was that I got
1328
00:53:14,399 --> 00:53:16,902
to interview many of my
childhood movie heroes,
1329
00:53:16,902 --> 00:53:19,487
including Coppola himself.
1330
00:53:19,487 --> 00:53:21,406
It was quite a thrill
talking with him,
1331
00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:22,908
though I didn't have
the guts to tell him
1332
00:53:22,908 --> 00:53:24,743
that I had memorized
all the narration
1333
00:53:24,743 --> 00:53:26,328
from "Apocalypse Now."
1334
00:53:27,662 --> 00:53:30,332
I also didn't tell him that
one day in high school,
1335
00:53:30,332 --> 00:53:33,335
I saw that a movie was being
filmed at the Plaza Hotel
1336
00:53:33,335 --> 00:53:35,503
and I followed the cables from
the generators on the street
1337
00:53:35,503 --> 00:53:40,091
into a side door, up some back
stairs, down a long corridor,
1338
00:53:40,091 --> 00:53:43,178
through two giant banquet
rooms filled with equipment
1339
00:53:43,178 --> 00:53:46,014
and onto the set of his
movie, "The Cotton Club,"
1340
00:53:46,014 --> 00:53:48,016
where I stole some
craft service donuts
1341
00:53:48,016 --> 00:53:50,018
before being spotted and
kicked to the street.
1342
00:53:50,018 --> 00:53:51,770
- What do you
think you're doing?
1343
00:53:52,771 --> 00:53:54,606
[cheerful music]
1344
00:53:54,606 --> 00:53:56,858
- [Richard] Growing up in
New York was also great
1345
00:53:56,858 --> 00:53:59,611
for stumbling onto film sets.
1346
00:53:59,611 --> 00:54:01,696
One night I was near
the Metropolitan Museum
1347
00:54:01,696 --> 00:54:04,199
and came across a big
movie being shot there.
1348
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:08,620
There was a large crew
and many period cars.
1349
00:54:08,620 --> 00:54:10,038
Not knowing any better,
1350
00:54:10,038 --> 00:54:12,624
I walked past the rest of
the New Yorkers watching,
1351
00:54:12,624 --> 00:54:14,960
slid under several
police barriers,
1352
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,296
snaked my way through a bunch
of crew members and extras,
1353
00:54:18,296 --> 00:54:21,132
and found myself exactly
where I wanted to be,
1354
00:54:21,132 --> 00:54:24,469
standing at the video monitors
right behind the director,
1355
00:54:24,469 --> 00:54:27,055
who in this case was
the great John Huston,
1356
00:54:27,055 --> 00:54:29,808
who was making the not
so great film version
1357
00:54:29,808 --> 00:54:32,060
of the Broadway
musical, "Annie."
1358
00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:37,065
♪ Clears away the
cobwebs and the sorrow ♪
1359
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,985
- [Richard] No one said
anything to me as I stood there,
1360
00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:42,737
as they all assumed that I
was a son of someone important
1361
00:54:42,737 --> 00:54:45,991
and meant to be so
close to the action.
1362
00:54:45,991 --> 00:54:47,742
I watched take after take,
1363
00:54:47,742 --> 00:54:50,412
incredibly excited by all
the machinations it took
1364
00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:52,414
to get a scene done.
1365
00:54:52,414 --> 00:54:54,916
I was a bit confused that
Huston wasn't yelling action
1366
00:54:54,916 --> 00:54:56,668
or cut himself.
1367
00:54:56,668 --> 00:54:59,087
Wasn't it always the
director who yelled cut?
1368
00:54:59,087 --> 00:54:59,921
- [Henry] Cut!
1369
00:54:59,921 --> 00:55:01,089
- Who said cut?
1370
00:55:02,007 --> 00:55:03,508
- I had a film run out.
1371
00:55:03,508 --> 00:55:06,136
- [Eli] How many feet of film
are left in that camera, Gabe?
1372
00:55:08,763 --> 00:55:10,056
- 33.
1373
00:55:10,849 --> 00:55:12,934
- Goddamn your fucking eyes out.
1374
00:55:12,934 --> 00:55:14,853
How dare you yell cut on my set?
1375
00:55:16,021 --> 00:55:18,857
- Well, what the hell,
Eli, 33 feet is nothing.
1376
00:55:18,857 --> 00:55:20,400
- It is 22 seconds, Henry.
1377
00:55:22,694 --> 00:55:25,530
In 22 seconds, I could
break your fucking spine!
1378
00:55:25,530 --> 00:55:26,865
In 22 seconds,
1379
00:55:26,865 --> 00:55:28,533
I could pinch your head
off like a fucking insect
1380
00:55:28,533 --> 00:55:30,201
and spin it all over
the fucking pavement.
1381
00:55:30,201 --> 00:55:33,038
In 22 seconds, I
could put 22 bullets
1382
00:55:33,038 --> 00:55:35,040
inside your ridiculous gut.
1383
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,792
What I seem unable to
do in 22 seconds is
1384
00:55:37,792 --> 00:55:40,587
to keep you from
fucking up my film!
1385
00:55:42,213 --> 00:55:43,465
- [Richard] Without a doubt,
1386
00:55:43,465 --> 00:55:44,966
my favorite movie set
watching experience was
1387
00:55:44,966 --> 00:55:47,719
when Brian De Palma's
"Dressed to Kill"
1388
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,388
took over East 70th Street
where my high school was
1389
00:55:50,388 --> 00:55:52,140
for three days of filming.
1390
00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:54,059
Being so close to
an actual film set
1391
00:55:54,059 --> 00:55:56,394
for so long was the
kind of high-grade,
1392
00:55:56,394 --> 00:55:58,229
24-frames-a-second smack
1393
00:55:58,229 --> 00:56:00,815
I needed to shoot directly
into my cinephile arm.
1394
00:56:00,815 --> 00:56:03,068
Just outside the window
of my science class was
1395
00:56:03,068 --> 00:56:06,738
a full film crew, as
well as Angie Dickinson,
1396
00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:11,076
Keith Gordon, Nancy
Allen, and Michael Caine,
1397
00:56:11,076 --> 00:56:14,329
but mostly there was
director Brian De Palma.
1398
00:56:15,497 --> 00:56:17,082
I watched them shoot
as often as I could,
1399
00:56:17,082 --> 00:56:20,418
sometimes cutting classes
right in front of my teachers.
1400
00:56:20,418 --> 00:56:21,920
If you listen
closely to the film,
1401
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,673
you can hear us, the
kids on the soundtrack.
1402
00:56:25,673 --> 00:56:29,094
[kids chattering]
1403
00:56:29,094 --> 00:56:32,097
I remember talking with De
Palma, getting his autograph,
1404
00:56:32,097 --> 00:56:34,015
asking him questions.
1405
00:56:34,015 --> 00:56:36,935
When the film was released,
I saw it opening day.
1406
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:39,521
I can't tell you how many
times I've seen it since.
1407
00:56:39,521 --> 00:56:42,107
Sexy, daring, violent,
and disturbing.
1408
00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:46,277
It's De Palma's slickest film
and in my mind, his best.
1409
00:56:48,613 --> 00:56:52,283
It's a Hitchcock homage, of
course, but much, much more.
1410
00:56:52,283 --> 00:56:54,452
It has jaw-dropping
scenes of violence,
1411
00:56:54,452 --> 00:56:56,121
but a beating heart as well.
1412
00:56:56,121 --> 00:56:57,288
[subway door slamming]
1413
00:56:58,289 --> 00:57:00,792
It's also a true New
York movie with dirty,
1414
00:57:00,792 --> 00:57:02,127
dangerous subway cars,
1415
00:57:02,127 --> 00:57:05,046
and even more dangerous
building elevators.
1416
00:57:05,046 --> 00:57:07,382
It also has a scene
set at the Met
1417
00:57:07,382 --> 00:57:09,717
that I think is one of the
greatest set piece sequences
1418
00:57:09,717 --> 00:57:11,636
in all of modern film.
1419
00:57:11,636 --> 00:57:12,971
Unhappily married
1420
00:57:12,971 --> 00:57:15,890
Angie Dickinson meets
a mysterious stranger
1421
00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:18,726
while sitting in front of
a large Alex Katz painting.
1422
00:57:19,644 --> 00:57:21,396
The pair seem to connect.
1423
00:57:21,396 --> 00:57:23,314
[dramatic music]
1424
00:57:23,314 --> 00:57:24,816
But then they don't.
1425
00:57:24,816 --> 00:57:27,735
[dramatic music]
1426
00:57:29,237 --> 00:57:30,989
But then they do.
1427
00:57:30,989 --> 00:57:34,075
As the possible future lovers
glide from room to room,
1428
00:57:34,075 --> 00:57:36,161
the suspense ratchets.
1429
00:57:36,161 --> 00:57:40,665
Each shot, each glance,
each cut raises the sexual
1430
00:57:40,665 --> 00:57:42,667
and cinematic tension.
1431
00:57:42,667 --> 00:57:45,503
[dramatic music]
1432
00:57:46,838 --> 00:57:50,425
Helped enormously by Pino
Donaggio's brilliant score,
1433
00:57:50,425 --> 00:57:53,261
this exquisite dance of
flirtation between Dickinson
1434
00:57:53,261 --> 00:57:57,015
and the man might be my favorite
scene in any movie ever.
1435
00:58:00,518 --> 00:58:03,188
It shook the film out
of its B-movie roots
1436
00:58:03,188 --> 00:58:04,522
and clearly announced
1437
00:58:04,522 --> 00:58:06,941
that it was a genre-
bending work of art.
1438
00:58:09,444 --> 00:58:12,363
[dramatic music]
1439
00:58:13,448 --> 00:58:15,116
"Dressed To Kill" is also a film
1440
00:58:15,116 --> 00:58:17,785
where Brian De Palma
uses split diopter lenses
1441
00:58:17,785 --> 00:58:19,037
that keep foreground
1442
00:58:19,037 --> 00:58:22,457
and background in focus
to maximum effect.
1443
00:58:22,457 --> 00:58:26,044
Later, as a filmmaker myself,
I continued to refer back
1444
00:58:26,044 --> 00:58:27,545
to much in the movie,
1445
00:58:27,545 --> 00:58:29,881
using split diopter
lenses on my thriller,
1446
00:58:29,881 --> 00:58:33,301
"The Perfection," in a very
clear homage to De Palma.
1447
00:58:34,552 --> 00:58:36,304
Like many films of that era,
1448
00:58:36,304 --> 00:58:39,057
parts of "Dressed to
Kill" are problematic,
1449
00:58:39,057 --> 00:58:43,478
but the movie still holds up,
still tingles, still scares.
1450
00:58:43,478 --> 00:58:46,147
[woman screaming]
1451
00:58:46,147 --> 00:58:47,982
I bought the
soundtrack, of course,
1452
00:58:47,982 --> 00:58:50,360
used it to score some
of my Super 8 thrillers.
1453
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,903
I read Pauline
Kael's rave about it
1454
00:58:51,903 --> 00:58:54,072
in the New Yorker over and over.
1455
00:58:54,072 --> 00:58:55,156
She wrote,
1456
00:58:55,156 --> 00:58:56,241
"The pleasure of
the movie's suspense
1457
00:58:56,241 --> 00:58:57,909
becomes aphrodisiacal."
1458
00:58:57,909 --> 00:59:00,078
My God, could there ever
be a better compliment
1459
00:59:00,078 --> 00:59:01,538
in a film review?
1460
00:59:02,580 --> 00:59:04,666
At this point, movies
fully took over my life.
1461
00:59:04,666 --> 00:59:06,167
I was all in.
1462
00:59:06,167 --> 00:59:09,003
My already bad grades got
worse, but it didn't matter.
1463
00:59:09,003 --> 00:59:10,755
New York was a mecca
for all things film
1464
00:59:10,755 --> 00:59:12,340
and I took full advantage.
1465
00:59:12,340 --> 00:59:14,425
I saw nearly everything
that got released
1466
00:59:14,425 --> 00:59:18,596
from "Blood Beach" to Eric
Rohmer's "Pauline at the Beach."
1467
00:59:18,596 --> 00:59:20,306
[Marion speaking Italian]
1468
00:59:20,306 --> 00:59:21,975
- [Richard] My high
school friends,
1469
00:59:21,975 --> 00:59:23,184
Mark Mullin on the left,
1470
00:59:23,184 --> 00:59:26,104
and Liam Plevin, were
also film obsessed.
1471
00:59:26,104 --> 00:59:29,107
So I had partners in
crime going to the movies.
1472
00:59:29,107 --> 00:59:32,443
"The Road Warrior,"
"Altered States,"
1473
00:59:32,443 --> 00:59:36,114
"The Shining," "Tootsie,"
"Tender Mercies,"
1474
00:59:36,114 --> 00:59:38,783
"Being There,"
"Prince of the City."
1475
00:59:38,783 --> 00:59:40,034
For the four years
of high school,
1476
00:59:40,034 --> 00:59:42,203
we'd go to films every
Friday after school,
1477
00:59:42,203 --> 00:59:44,622
sometimes Saturday
and Sunday too.
1478
00:59:44,622 --> 00:59:47,709
If the movie was rated R, we
asked people to buy us tickets,
1479
00:59:47,709 --> 00:59:49,711
always young couples on a date.
1480
00:59:49,711 --> 00:59:51,129
If the line was too long,
1481
00:59:51,129 --> 00:59:52,463
we'd loiter in
front of the theater
1482
00:59:52,463 --> 00:59:54,215
and then when the
line started moving,
1483
00:59:54,215 --> 00:59:57,302
we'd effortlessly cut it like
the super smooth movie spies
1484
00:59:57,302 --> 00:59:58,720
that we were.
1485
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,472
Senior year, Liam and I
even got part-time jobs
1486
01:00:01,472 --> 01:00:03,891
at the Criterion Movie
Theatre in Times Square
1487
01:00:03,891 --> 01:00:05,476
because back in the early '80s,
1488
01:00:05,476 --> 01:00:06,811
being an usher at
a movie theater
1489
01:00:06,811 --> 01:00:08,730
in the city allowed
you two tickets
1490
01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:11,399
to any other movie theater
in the city at any time.
1491
01:00:11,399 --> 01:00:14,652
It was like a secret society.
1492
01:00:14,652 --> 01:00:16,571
You just called up
and dropped the bomb.
1493
01:00:16,571 --> 01:00:17,989
You would let the
ushers in for free
1494
01:00:17,989 --> 01:00:21,242
to your theater if they
did the same for you.
1495
01:00:21,242 --> 01:00:23,911
The idea that I could go to
any movie in the city for free,
1496
01:00:23,911 --> 01:00:25,496
my God, it was heaven.
1497
01:00:25,496 --> 01:00:27,081
When my parents heard
about that perk,
1498
01:00:27,081 --> 01:00:28,833
they reminded me that
when they were young
1499
01:00:28,833 --> 01:00:30,168
and just beginning to date,
1500
01:00:30,168 --> 01:00:32,754
my father won a movie
trivia contest in a magazine
1501
01:00:32,754 --> 01:00:34,672
and the prize was
a free pass for two
1502
01:00:34,672 --> 01:00:36,924
to any movie in the
city for a year.
1503
01:00:36,924 --> 01:00:38,676
This is how my parents courted.
1504
01:00:38,676 --> 01:00:40,178
This is how they fell in love.
1505
01:00:41,429 --> 01:00:42,930
It's funny how my dad
and I both managed
1506
01:00:42,930 --> 01:00:44,265
to get into the movies for free
1507
01:00:44,265 --> 01:00:46,184
at pivotal points in our lives.
1508
01:00:46,184 --> 01:00:48,061
Hustlers, both of us.
1509
01:00:49,187 --> 01:00:51,105
There were six screens
at the Criterion
1510
01:00:51,105 --> 01:00:52,857
and Sidney Lumet's "The
Verdict" played there
1511
01:00:52,857 --> 01:00:55,526
for several months in
the winter of 1982.
1512
01:00:55,526 --> 01:00:58,112
I'm sure I ended up seeing
it at least 50 times,
1513
01:00:58,112 --> 01:01:00,365
parts of it at least,
which was okay with me
1514
01:01:00,365 --> 01:01:01,449
because I loved it.
1515
01:01:01,449 --> 01:01:03,451
It was a studio
film made for adults
1516
01:01:03,451 --> 01:01:04,952
as opposed to
studio films today,
1517
01:01:04,952 --> 01:01:06,454
which are made for kids.
1518
01:01:06,454 --> 01:01:09,707
Watching it expanded my
universe, didn't placate to it.
1519
01:01:09,707 --> 01:01:11,042
- I'm going up there,
I'm gonna try it.
1520
01:01:11,042 --> 01:01:12,543
I'm gonna let the jury decide.
1521
01:01:12,543 --> 01:01:14,045
You know, they
told me about you.
1522
01:01:14,045 --> 01:01:17,298
That you're a hard ass,
you're a defendant's judge.
1523
01:01:17,298 --> 01:01:18,716
Oh, I don't care.
1524
01:01:18,716 --> 01:01:19,801
I said, "The hell with it."
1525
01:01:19,801 --> 01:01:20,968
To hell with it!
1526
01:01:20,968 --> 01:01:22,303
- [Richard] The
Criterion also showed,
1527
01:01:22,303 --> 01:01:23,805
"The Empire Strikes
Back," in re-release
1528
01:01:23,805 --> 01:01:26,474
before "Return of the
Jedi" was to come out.
1529
01:01:26,474 --> 01:01:28,559
Part of my job was to check
the picture projection
1530
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:31,562
and sound, and one day I walked
into one of the theaters,
1531
01:01:31,562 --> 01:01:33,231
which was thick with pot smoke
1532
01:01:33,231 --> 01:01:35,608
and found that the sound
was completely off.
1533
01:01:37,235 --> 01:01:38,986
No R2-D2 beeps.
1534
01:01:38,986 --> 01:01:42,573
No Wookiee howls, no
John Williams score, zilch.
1535
01:01:42,573 --> 01:01:44,575
I asked one of the 10
people in the audience
1536
01:01:44,575 --> 01:01:46,661
how long the sound had
been out and he smiled
1537
01:01:46,661 --> 01:01:48,746
and he said he thought
about 15 minutes.
1538
01:01:48,746 --> 01:01:51,082
In that time, no one had
come out to complain.
1539
01:01:51,082 --> 01:01:53,251
They were all too fucked up.
1540
01:01:53,251 --> 01:01:55,920
At other times, packs of
teenagers would try to sneak in
1541
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,255
by walking backwards
1542
01:01:57,255 --> 01:01:59,590
as the crowd streamed
out of a previous show.
1543
01:01:59,590 --> 01:02:01,759
As someone who was used to
scams getting into theaters
1544
01:02:01,759 --> 01:02:04,595
for free, I appreciated
the creativity.
1545
01:02:04,595 --> 01:02:06,347
I'd joke with my parents
for years about
1546
01:02:06,347 --> 01:02:07,932
how back in the early '80s,
1547
01:02:07,932 --> 01:02:10,518
when it was one of the most
sketchy areas in all of America,
1548
01:02:10,518 --> 01:02:13,104
they let me work in a
Times Square movie theater.
1549
01:02:13,104 --> 01:02:14,522
Truth was they
never really seemed
1550
01:02:14,522 --> 01:02:15,773
to give it a second thought
1551
01:02:15,773 --> 01:02:17,608
that I was working in a
neighborhood of thieves
1552
01:02:17,608 --> 01:02:19,944
and roving gangs and
pimps and prostitutes.
1553
01:02:19,944 --> 01:02:21,696
It was New York and
I was a New Yorker.
1554
01:02:21,696 --> 01:02:23,281
I just had to deal with it.
1555
01:02:23,281 --> 01:02:26,284
[upbeat music]
1556
01:02:26,284 --> 01:02:28,703
I saw every kind of
movie during those years.
1557
01:02:28,703 --> 01:02:32,707
Art films, teen comedies,
Oscar winners, Kung Fu films,
1558
01:02:32,707 --> 01:02:34,542
Schlocko action pictures.
1559
01:02:34,542 --> 01:02:37,378
I saw horror movies like
"The Fan," "The Fog,"
1560
01:02:37,378 --> 01:02:38,796
"The Fun House,"
1561
01:02:38,796 --> 01:02:41,799
insane low budget wonders
like "Parasite 3D,"
1562
01:02:41,799 --> 01:02:46,137
"Amityville 3D," "Psycho 2,"
"Halloween II," "Wolfen,"
1563
01:02:46,137 --> 01:02:49,223
"Silent Scream," "Creep
Show," "Basket Case,"
1564
01:02:49,223 --> 01:02:51,476
"Dawn of the Dead,"
and "Fade to Black,"
1565
01:02:51,476 --> 01:02:53,728
that starred that guy
from "Breaking Away"
1566
01:02:53,728 --> 01:02:55,980
and had some great
gratuitous nudity.
1567
01:02:57,148 --> 01:02:58,399
I saw foreign movies
1568
01:02:58,399 --> 01:03:00,985
like Italy's "The Night
of Shooting Stars,"
1569
01:03:00,985 --> 01:03:04,822
France's "La Boum,"
Japan's "Kagemusha."
1570
01:03:04,822 --> 01:03:06,657
I saw the "The
Draughtsman's Contract,"
1571
01:03:06,657 --> 01:03:09,243
"Circle of Deceit,"
"Time Stands Still,"
1572
01:03:09,243 --> 01:03:11,829
"Breaker Morant,"
and "Gallipoli."
1573
01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:14,832
Jean-Jacques Beineix's
film, "Diva," blew my mind
1574
01:03:14,832 --> 01:03:18,753
with its use of color and
music and punk rock beauty.
1575
01:03:18,753 --> 01:03:22,006
This unique French movie
about obsession, opera,
1576
01:03:22,006 --> 01:03:24,926
and priceless recordings
that lead to murder was,
1577
01:03:24,926 --> 01:03:26,761
along with "Dressed to Kill,"
1578
01:03:26,761 --> 01:03:28,679
one of the most
influential films I saw
1579
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:30,097
during that period.
1580
01:03:30,097 --> 01:03:32,517
I realized that beautiful
design and music,
1581
01:03:32,517 --> 01:03:34,268
and a unique cinematic style,
1582
01:03:34,268 --> 01:03:37,271
could elevate a genre movie
into something better,
1583
01:03:37,271 --> 01:03:39,857
that films could have more
than one level to them.
1584
01:03:39,857 --> 01:03:42,693
In fact, the more
levels, the better.
1585
01:03:42,693 --> 01:03:45,279
I wasn't yet ready to give
up my schlock film mania
1586
01:03:45,279 --> 01:03:47,031
for only art films,
1587
01:03:47,031 --> 01:03:49,867
but I had finally started
to notice the difference.
1588
01:03:51,369 --> 01:03:53,704
I got so film obsessive that I
didn't even have the patience
1589
01:03:53,704 --> 01:03:56,040
to wait till 3PM
when school got out
1590
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,543
to see the new movies
that were opening.
1591
01:03:58,543 --> 01:04:01,879
I started cutting classes
on a scarily regular basis.
1592
01:04:01,879 --> 01:04:03,798
I saw "Star Trek:
The Motion Picture"
1593
01:04:03,798 --> 01:04:06,717
at the Paramount Theater
at the first 11AM screening
1594
01:04:06,717 --> 01:04:07,885
on opening day.
1595
01:04:07,885 --> 01:04:09,303
For a "Star Trek" fanatic,
1596
01:04:09,303 --> 01:04:12,473
that turgid slog of a film
was especially disappointing,
1597
01:04:12,473 --> 01:04:13,641
but I didn't mind.
1598
01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:15,560
I was where I wanted to be.
1599
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,645
My 11th grade
girlfriend, Mitzi, and I
1600
01:04:17,645 --> 01:04:19,730
cut school to see
"One From The Heart,"
1601
01:04:19,730 --> 01:04:21,732
because, well, I just had to.
1602
01:04:21,732 --> 01:04:24,235
It was Francis
Coppola after all.
1603
01:04:24,235 --> 01:04:26,404
Mark Mullin and I didn't
even show up to school
1604
01:04:26,404 --> 01:04:29,073
the day "Star Trek II:
The Wrath of Khan" opened.
1605
01:04:29,073 --> 01:04:30,241
It was thankfully leaps
1606
01:04:30,241 --> 01:04:32,243
and bounds better
than the first one.
1607
01:04:32,243 --> 01:04:34,996
We also saw "Poltergeist"
on that same day,
1608
01:04:34,996 --> 01:04:36,581
one right after the other,
1609
01:04:36,581 --> 01:04:38,916
just crossed 86th Street
from the Loew's Orpheum
1610
01:04:38,916 --> 01:04:39,917
to the Town and Country.
1611
01:04:39,917 --> 01:04:40,918
- What's happening?
1612
01:04:42,336 --> 01:04:45,339
- [Richard] Now that's an
excellent Friday afternoon.
1613
01:04:45,339 --> 01:04:48,009
Shortly after our drama
teacher, Betsy Lifton,
1614
01:04:48,009 --> 01:04:49,594
joined us as we ditched school
1615
01:04:49,594 --> 01:04:51,762
to see Martin
Scorsese's brilliant
1616
01:04:51,762 --> 01:04:54,432
and misunderstood,
"The King of Comedy."
1617
01:04:54,432 --> 01:04:57,268
Suddenly, Scorsese was
all I was talking about.
1618
01:04:57,268 --> 01:04:59,812
Coppola appeared in
my rear view mirror.
1619
01:05:01,188 --> 01:05:03,774
Mark Mullin had been making
Super 8 films himself
1620
01:05:03,774 --> 01:05:05,359
before he transferred
to my school,
1621
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:08,779
so we instantly hit it off
when he arrived in 10th grade.
1622
01:05:08,779 --> 01:05:11,782
Soon, he and Liam and I
were making films together.
1623
01:05:11,782 --> 01:05:15,119
Thrillers mostly, but some
dramas and comedies too.
1624
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:18,873
They were far more ambitious
in my Super 8 solo efforts.
1625
01:05:18,873 --> 01:05:20,374
In "Shadows From The Past,"
1626
01:05:20,374 --> 01:05:21,876
a title my father helped come up
1627
01:05:21,876 --> 01:05:23,794
with along with the catch line,
1628
01:05:23,794 --> 01:05:27,381
"Memories may haunt you
but reality will kill you."
1629
01:05:27,381 --> 01:05:29,383
We convinced our high
school history teacher,
1630
01:05:29,383 --> 01:05:31,969
Mr. Lakaye, to play
a version of himself,
1631
01:05:31,969 --> 01:05:33,721
except that he's a
high school teacher
1632
01:05:33,721 --> 01:05:35,723
who's a homicidal serial killer.
1633
01:05:35,723 --> 01:05:38,726
Mark played the transfer student
who recognizes Mr. Lakaye
1634
01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:41,479
as a suspected murderer
from his former school.
1635
01:05:41,479 --> 01:05:42,730
- Sit down, Mark.
1636
01:05:43,773 --> 01:05:46,317
[hand slaps newspaper]
1637
01:05:48,319 --> 01:05:49,904
Have you told anyone about this?
1638
01:05:51,322 --> 01:05:55,660
'Cause if you had, I'd
suggest you change your story
1639
01:05:56,827 --> 01:06:01,707
or it might become,
as we say, unhealthy.
1640
01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:03,668
- [Richard] In another film,
1641
01:06:03,668 --> 01:06:05,002
we intercut Mark
having a conversation
1642
01:06:05,002 --> 01:06:06,754
with Robert De Niro
from Taxi Driver.
1643
01:06:06,754 --> 01:06:07,588
- You talking to me?
1644
01:06:07,588 --> 01:06:08,673
- [Mark] Yes, Mr. De Niro.
1645
01:06:08,673 --> 01:06:09,924
Let me rephrase the question.
1646
01:06:09,924 --> 01:06:11,842
How did it help you learn
to deal with people?
1647
01:06:11,842 --> 01:06:12,843
- Are you talking to me?
1648
01:06:12,843 --> 01:06:14,011
- [Richard] Achieving this
1649
01:06:14,011 --> 01:06:16,013
by buying a short Super
8 version of the movie,
1650
01:06:16,013 --> 01:06:18,516
you could do this as before
the age of home videos,
1651
01:06:18,516 --> 01:06:21,185
studios used Super 8
movies as a marketing tool
1652
01:06:21,185 --> 01:06:24,355
and we then spliced it
in with stuff we shot.
1653
01:06:24,355 --> 01:06:25,940
- Okay, okay, Mr. De Niro.
1654
01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:27,858
Okay, okay, I get the point.
1655
01:06:27,858 --> 01:06:28,943
- [Richard] We
showed these movies
1656
01:06:28,943 --> 01:06:30,361
to our high school classmates,
1657
01:06:30,361 --> 01:06:33,030
usually in a packed
auditorium after school.
1658
01:06:33,030 --> 01:06:34,615
We made posters and
flyers to get them
1659
01:06:34,615 --> 01:06:36,951
to come just like the pros did.
1660
01:06:36,951 --> 01:06:38,786
It was always an
immediate blast to watch
1661
01:06:38,786 --> 01:06:41,372
and listen to our classmates
as they viewed our films,
1662
01:06:41,372 --> 01:06:44,709
to hear their laughter,
to grab their attention.
1663
01:06:44,709 --> 01:06:46,544
Soon, our principal, Colin Reed,
1664
01:06:46,544 --> 01:06:49,630
who himself was a movie buff,
got caught up in our passions
1665
01:06:49,630 --> 01:06:52,717
and started funding our films
with the school's money.
1666
01:06:52,717 --> 01:06:55,386
We'd go in and pitch him
ideas like we were at a studio
1667
01:06:55,386 --> 01:06:57,638
and he'd either
greenlight it or pass.
1668
01:06:57,638 --> 01:06:59,056
[upbeat music]
1669
01:06:59,056 --> 01:07:01,892
When we saw Alan Parker's
brilliant and exuberant, "Fame,"
1670
01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:03,728
still one of my favorite films,
1671
01:07:03,728 --> 01:07:06,647
we made the far less brilliant
and exuberant "Audition."
1672
01:07:06,647 --> 01:07:09,900
- I killed my own mother!
1673
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:11,235
- [Richard] When we
saw Martin Scorsese's
1674
01:07:11,235 --> 01:07:13,654
rock and roll fever
dream, "The Last Waltz,"
1675
01:07:13,654 --> 01:07:15,906
we made a music doc about
Mark's high school band,
1676
01:07:15,906 --> 01:07:17,491
Quarter Deck.
1677
01:07:17,491 --> 01:07:20,119
[upbeat music]
1678
01:07:20,995 --> 01:07:22,580
- Wait, stop, stop, stop.
1679
01:07:22,580 --> 01:07:23,748
- [Richard] Watching it now,
1680
01:07:23,748 --> 01:07:25,249
I think our studio
head, Mr. Reed,
1681
01:07:25,249 --> 01:07:27,418
should have passed on that one.
1682
01:07:27,418 --> 01:07:29,086
My mother and father
were encouraging
1683
01:07:29,086 --> 01:07:30,504
of my cinematic output,
1684
01:07:30,504 --> 01:07:32,757
but they were also honest
in their assessment,
1685
01:07:32,757 --> 01:07:34,341
especially my father.
1686
01:07:34,341 --> 01:07:36,343
My dad liked some of
my Super 8 movies,
1687
01:07:36,343 --> 01:07:38,095
but others didn't work for him.
1688
01:07:38,095 --> 01:07:39,930
This remained true
with all my films,
1689
01:07:39,930 --> 01:07:42,600
even my professional ones,
until the day he died.
1690
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,603
He never really bullshitted
me when it came to my work.
1691
01:07:45,603 --> 01:07:48,439
If he saw a film of mine that
he thought wasn't successful,
1692
01:07:48,439 --> 01:07:50,191
he went outside to smoke a cigar
1693
01:07:50,191 --> 01:07:53,277
and hoped the subject would
be changed before he returned.
1694
01:07:53,277 --> 01:07:55,780
That's why his compliments
meant so much to me.
1695
01:07:55,780 --> 01:07:57,948
When it connected, he connected,
1696
01:07:57,948 --> 01:08:00,618
and while I wasn't always
striving for his approval,
1697
01:08:00,618 --> 01:08:03,370
I can't say it wasn't
in the back of my mind.
1698
01:08:04,330 --> 01:08:06,665
That's why I wish he could
have seen the movies I directed
1699
01:08:06,665 --> 01:08:07,958
as an adult,
1700
01:08:07,958 --> 01:08:11,295
when I finally started finding
my true voice as a filmmaker.
1701
01:08:11,295 --> 01:08:15,633
The ones I made after
he died, "The Matador,"
1702
01:08:15,633 --> 01:08:16,801
"The Hunting Party,"
1703
01:08:16,801 --> 01:08:19,053
my eyeballed Jude
Law gangster flick,
1704
01:08:19,053 --> 01:08:21,138
"Dom Hemingway."
1705
01:08:21,138 --> 01:08:22,556
It's not surprising
1706
01:08:22,556 --> 01:08:24,809
that so many of the movies I've
written are about outliers,
1707
01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:28,687
men who won't conform,
lovable criminals and rogues,
1708
01:08:28,687 --> 01:08:29,939
[explosion]
1709
01:08:29,939 --> 01:08:32,733
men who absolutely do
not play by any rules.
1710
01:08:32,733 --> 01:08:35,402
It's a darkly humorous
cinematic world I understand
1711
01:08:35,402 --> 01:08:37,238
and relate to because
I grew up with a man
1712
01:08:37,238 --> 01:08:39,406
who was those characters.
1713
01:08:40,825 --> 01:08:43,327
It's sad how I couldn't really
start writing those movies
1714
01:08:43,327 --> 01:08:46,413
until after my father got sick.
1715
01:08:46,413 --> 01:08:48,666
As if I needed the space,
1716
01:08:48,666 --> 01:08:50,668
the transition to be able
1717
01:08:50,668 --> 01:08:53,754
to become the filmmaker
I was meant to be.
1718
01:08:53,754 --> 01:08:56,841
I really wish he could have
gotten a chance to see them,
1719
01:08:56,841 --> 01:09:00,678
to see what the filmmaker he
had nurtured actually produced
1720
01:09:00,678 --> 01:09:02,388
when set free.
1721
01:09:04,014 --> 01:09:06,767
[footsteps thumping]
1722
01:09:06,767 --> 01:09:09,687
As one can see with his
cameo in my movie, "Mercy,"
1723
01:09:09,687 --> 01:09:12,189
my father sometimes looked
like a homeless person.
1724
01:09:12,189 --> 01:09:14,942
It was a persona he cultivated
so he could go unnoticed
1725
01:09:14,942 --> 01:09:16,861
as he broke into
abandoned buildings
1726
01:09:16,861 --> 01:09:18,362
or tried to negotiate
a better price
1727
01:09:18,362 --> 01:09:20,865
for one of his antique
toys he collected.
1728
01:09:20,865 --> 01:09:23,200
Once in 11th grade
when I was performing
1729
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,119
in Peter Shaffer's
"Black Comedy,"
1730
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:26,704
a performance, it
should be noted,
1731
01:09:26,704 --> 01:09:29,123
where I broke my nose running
into Michael Bregman's skull
1732
01:09:29,123 --> 01:09:31,125
during one of the
blackouts in the play,
1733
01:09:31,125 --> 01:09:33,961
my father was turned away from
the door of our high school
1734
01:09:33,961 --> 01:09:35,129
because some teacher
thought he looked
1735
01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:37,464
like a crazed street person.
1736
01:09:37,464 --> 01:09:39,717
Of course, he'd wear
a tie if he had to,
1737
01:09:39,717 --> 01:09:42,553
and he rocked that look
because he was a man of vanity
1738
01:09:42,553 --> 01:09:46,557
and style, but he also carried
brass knuckles in his pocket
1739
01:09:46,557 --> 01:09:50,394
because he never strayed too
far from New York's underbelly.
1740
01:09:50,394 --> 01:09:51,604
That was my father,
1741
01:09:51,604 --> 01:09:53,814
sophisticated when
it suited him,
1742
01:09:53,814 --> 01:09:57,401
but otherwise edgy and scrappy
like the city he loved.
1743
01:09:57,401 --> 01:10:01,071
That duality extended to
other parts of his life.
1744
01:10:01,071 --> 01:10:02,907
He was a man who was selfless
1745
01:10:02,907 --> 01:10:06,410
and selfish, sometimes
at the same time.
1746
01:10:06,410 --> 01:10:08,078
When I called him
to get help taking
1747
01:10:08,078 --> 01:10:10,915
a giant 12-foot "Star
Wars" marquee sign home
1748
01:10:10,915 --> 01:10:12,917
from the Criterion
Movie Theatre,
1749
01:10:12,917 --> 01:10:15,252
he told me to figure
it out myself.
1750
01:10:15,252 --> 01:10:16,921
After all, he hadn't
needed help getting
1751
01:10:16,921 --> 01:10:19,506
that Coca-Cola sign home,
1752
01:10:19,506 --> 01:10:21,759
but he would show up at
every school play no matter
1753
01:10:21,759 --> 01:10:24,595
how mediocre my performance
was bound to be.
1754
01:10:26,096 --> 01:10:28,682
Once when I was 12, he took
me to a "Star Trek" convention
1755
01:10:28,682 --> 01:10:30,768
at the Hilton on 54th Street.
1756
01:10:30,768 --> 01:10:32,603
Dropped me off is a
better description
1757
01:10:32,603 --> 01:10:34,688
as my dad had no
interest in going
1758
01:10:34,688 --> 01:10:37,441
and he rarely did what
he didn't want to do.
1759
01:10:37,441 --> 01:10:40,861
["Star Trek Theme"]
1760
01:10:40,861 --> 01:10:43,530
Anyway, when he came to pick
me up later that afternoon,
1761
01:10:43,530 --> 01:10:45,449
I wasn't outside as planned.
1762
01:10:45,449 --> 01:10:47,201
Frustrated, my
father went inside
1763
01:10:47,201 --> 01:10:49,203
and found me standing
on an endless line
1764
01:10:49,203 --> 01:10:52,790
to get James Doohan,
Mr. Scott's autograph.
1765
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:54,208
I had been waiting for two hours
1766
01:10:54,208 --> 01:10:55,960
and I was now very close.
1767
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,795
Realizing that I
wasn't going to leave,
1768
01:10:57,795 --> 01:10:59,296
my father joined me on the line.
1769
01:10:59,296 --> 01:11:01,298
He wasn't happy
about it, but he did.
1770
01:11:01,298 --> 01:11:02,883
Just then, James Doohan stood up
1771
01:11:02,883 --> 01:11:04,218
and said that he was finished.
1772
01:11:04,218 --> 01:11:05,135
His time was up.
1773
01:11:05,135 --> 01:11:07,471
I instantly broke out in tears.
1774
01:11:07,471 --> 01:11:09,723
I was so close to him
and I waited for so long
1775
01:11:09,723 --> 01:11:11,809
and now he was just going?
1776
01:11:11,809 --> 01:11:14,979
Seeing my heartbreak and
always up for a little rumble,
1777
01:11:14,979 --> 01:11:17,731
my father said in an
incredibly loud voice,
1778
01:11:17,731 --> 01:11:20,818
loud enough for James Doohan
and half the Hilton to hear it,
1779
01:11:20,818 --> 01:11:23,070
"My son and I just
drove 12 hours
1780
01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:24,822
from South Carolina in the rain
1781
01:11:24,822 --> 01:11:26,824
so we could get Mr.
Scott's autograph.
1782
01:11:26,824 --> 01:11:29,493
I would hope that he
could help us out."
1783
01:11:29,493 --> 01:11:32,371
[dramatic music]
1784
01:11:39,336 --> 01:11:40,754
Feeling terrible for me
1785
01:11:40,754 --> 01:11:43,173
and having no idea that
my father was bullshitting
1786
01:11:43,173 --> 01:11:45,175
and that we lived just uptown,
1787
01:11:45,175 --> 01:11:46,510
Mr. Scott motioned us over
1788
01:11:46,510 --> 01:11:49,596
and quickly signed my
8-by-10 glossy of him.
1789
01:11:49,596 --> 01:11:52,391
[cheerful music]
1790
01:11:53,934 --> 01:11:55,352
That was my father.
1791
01:11:55,352 --> 01:11:56,854
He made my day.
1792
01:11:56,854 --> 01:11:58,689
He thrilled me.
1793
01:11:58,689 --> 01:12:01,775
That he later secretly sold
all my "Star Trek" memorabilia
1794
01:12:01,775 --> 01:12:03,193
while I was off in college
1795
01:12:03,193 --> 01:12:04,778
because he needed
some quick cash
1796
01:12:04,778 --> 01:12:08,365
for some scheme is another
story all together.
1797
01:12:08,365 --> 01:12:11,952
As I said, selfless and selfish.
1798
01:12:13,203 --> 01:12:15,456
New York City was
my father's city,
1799
01:12:15,456 --> 01:12:16,874
but it was also mine
1800
01:12:16,874 --> 01:12:19,209
and that was a true
gift my dad gave me.
1801
01:12:19,209 --> 01:12:20,794
New York was alive with cinema.
1802
01:12:20,794 --> 01:12:23,297
It was just up to
me to seek it out.
1803
01:12:23,297 --> 01:12:25,883
I mean, where else could you
see "My Dinner with Andre,"
1804
01:12:25,883 --> 01:12:27,551
an hour-and-51-minute movie
1805
01:12:27,551 --> 01:12:29,803
of just two brilliant
guys talking?
1806
01:12:29,803 --> 01:12:33,724
Or "Chan Is Missing," a
$22,000 indie that's as funny
1807
01:12:33,724 --> 01:12:35,893
and original as any bigger film?
1808
01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:39,229
Or the X-rated epic, "Caligula"
with Malcolm McDowell,
1809
01:12:39,229 --> 01:12:42,316
Peter O'Toole, John
Gielgud, Helen Mirren,
1810
01:12:42,316 --> 01:12:44,735
and a bunch of porn
stars that was both dirty
1811
01:12:44,735 --> 01:12:47,071
and boring at the same time.
1812
01:12:47,071 --> 01:12:48,655
With my friends, Mark and Liam,
1813
01:12:48,655 --> 01:12:50,991
there was rarely a
film we didn't go to,
1814
01:12:50,991 --> 01:12:54,161
a theater we didn't
know, the Coronet,
1815
01:12:54,161 --> 01:12:56,080
the Baronet, the Paris.
1816
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,748
They had some great names.
1817
01:12:57,748 --> 01:13:00,334
The Sutton, the Gemini,
the Carnegie Hall Cinema,
1818
01:13:00,334 --> 01:13:04,755
the Trans Lux 85th
Street, Cinema I and II.
1819
01:13:04,755 --> 01:13:08,092
And The Thalia, which always
smelled of Chinese food
1820
01:13:08,092 --> 01:13:12,763
and consistently played the
smartest, coolest films.
1821
01:13:12,763 --> 01:13:16,433
I lost many, many hours in
each of those movie theaters.
1822
01:13:16,433 --> 01:13:18,519
Of course, this being New
York of the early '80s,
1823
01:13:18,519 --> 01:13:20,604
I learned to avoid a few
of the sketchier ones
1824
01:13:20,604 --> 01:13:21,855
along the way.
1825
01:13:21,855 --> 01:13:23,107
The Embassy at Broadway
1826
01:13:23,107 --> 01:13:25,776
and 47th Street was a
guarantee of danger.
1827
01:13:25,776 --> 01:13:28,779
It was only to be entered
in cinematic duress.
1828
01:13:28,779 --> 01:13:32,116
The UA East on First Avenue
was a recipe for being mugged,
1829
01:13:32,116 --> 01:13:34,952
although I did see the sci-fi
film "Hangar 18" there.
1830
01:13:34,952 --> 01:13:37,204
- Keep the lid on Hangar 18.
1831
01:13:37,204 --> 01:13:38,705
- [Richard] I mean, how
could I not see a film
1832
01:13:38,705 --> 01:13:39,957
that purported to tell us
1833
01:13:39,957 --> 01:13:42,793
why the government
was concealing UFOs?
1834
01:13:42,793 --> 01:13:44,878
{\an8}Mark, Liam, and I got some
of the girls in our class
1835
01:13:44,878 --> 01:13:46,463
{\an8}to see "The Dogs of War,"
1836
01:13:46,463 --> 01:13:48,882
a brutal action picture
with Christopher Walken,
1837
01:13:48,882 --> 01:13:50,384
by convincing them
1838
01:13:50,384 --> 01:13:52,219
that it was an animated film
about a bunch of cute dogs
1839
01:13:52,219 --> 01:13:54,513
that accidentally get
recruited to the army.
1840
01:13:54,513 --> 01:13:56,056
[werewolf growling]
1841
01:13:56,056 --> 01:13:58,142
We saw "An American
Werewolf in London"
1842
01:13:58,142 --> 01:13:59,476
and a few weeks later,
1843
01:13:59,476 --> 01:14:01,228
we recognized the film's
director, John Landis,
1844
01:14:01,228 --> 01:14:03,814
walking on Madison
Avenue and stopped him
1845
01:14:03,814 --> 01:14:05,732
and peppered him with
a million questions
1846
01:14:05,732 --> 01:14:07,734
and all he could do is
look at us incredulously
1847
01:14:07,734 --> 01:14:10,487
and say, "Who are you guys?"
1848
01:14:10,487 --> 01:14:12,489
- Wonderful, thanks a lot.
1849
01:14:12,489 --> 01:14:15,242
[phone ringing]
1850
01:14:17,744 --> 01:14:18,996
- [Richard] We saw the thriller,
1851
01:14:18,996 --> 01:14:20,581
"When A Stranger Calls,"
starring Carol Kane
1852
01:14:20,581 --> 01:14:22,916
as a babysitter getting
ever threatening phone calls
1853
01:14:22,916 --> 01:14:24,251
from a killer.
1854
01:14:24,251 --> 01:14:25,419
- [Killer] Have you
checked the children?
1855
01:14:25,419 --> 01:14:26,753
- [Richard] And it
provided the third
1856
01:14:26,753 --> 01:14:27,921
and biggest scare I had
1857
01:14:27,921 --> 01:14:29,006
at the movies as a kid.
1858
01:14:29,006 --> 01:14:30,215
What was so great about
1859
01:14:30,215 --> 01:14:31,633
the scare was that I actually
1860
01:14:31,633 --> 01:14:32,676
knew it was coming.
1861
01:14:32,676 --> 01:14:35,179
See, the theater had
a waiting area inside,
1862
01:14:35,179 --> 01:14:38,098
a few couches to sit on
if it was rainy or cold.
1863
01:14:38,098 --> 01:14:39,850
We got there early and
were waiting patiently
1864
01:14:39,850 --> 01:14:42,519
while the previous showing
was nearing its conclusion.
1865
01:14:42,519 --> 01:14:44,354
Suddenly through the
closed theater doors,
1866
01:14:44,354 --> 01:14:47,774
we heard the entire
audience scream in unison.
1867
01:14:47,774 --> 01:14:49,526
We excitedly looked
at each other,
1868
01:14:49,526 --> 01:14:52,279
what horrors could cause an
audience to react like that?
1869
01:14:52,279 --> 01:14:55,032
Just then, the theater doors
swung open and a man ran out
1870
01:14:55,032 --> 01:14:57,451
and puked in fear in the lobby.
1871
01:14:57,451 --> 01:15:00,537
It was truly the greatest
preamble to a horror movie ever,
1872
01:15:01,455 --> 01:15:03,290
and the movie didn't disappoint.
1873
01:15:03,290 --> 01:15:05,292
The first 20 minutes
are the film's best,
1874
01:15:05,292 --> 01:15:07,544
ending with the police calling
and telling the babysitter.
1875
01:15:07,544 --> 01:15:08,712
- [Police] We traced the call.
1876
01:15:08,712 --> 01:15:10,547
It's coming from
inside the house.
1877
01:15:10,547 --> 01:15:11,965
- [Richard] But the true scare,
1878
01:15:11,965 --> 01:15:14,301
the scare that caused the
entire audience to scream
1879
01:15:14,301 --> 01:15:17,054
and some dude to puke
happens at the end.
1880
01:15:17,054 --> 01:15:19,223
It's years later and
Carol Kane is married
1881
01:15:19,223 --> 01:15:22,643
and is living a normal life
when the killer escapes.
1882
01:15:22,643 --> 01:15:25,229
There's a scene at night
where Carol Kane is in bed
1883
01:15:25,229 --> 01:15:28,482
with her husband and the closet
door slowly starts to open.
1884
01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:31,235
It's terrifying
because we suspect
1885
01:15:31,235 --> 01:15:33,737
that the killer is hiding in
there and we just want Carol
1886
01:15:33,737 --> 01:15:35,739
and her husband to
get up and get out.
1887
01:15:36,698 --> 01:15:38,575
- [Jill] Stephen. Stephen.
1888
01:15:38,575 --> 01:15:39,660
[suspenseful music]
1889
01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:40,661
[dramatic music]
1890
01:15:40,661 --> 01:15:43,580
[Jill screaming]
1891
01:15:43,580 --> 01:15:46,458
- [Richard] Cue the giant
audience scream and the puke.
1892
01:15:48,752 --> 01:15:50,921
[cheerful music]
1893
01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:52,673
Few movies of that period were
1894
01:15:52,673 --> 01:15:55,342
as critically mistreated
as Michael Cimino's
1895
01:15:55,342 --> 01:15:56,760
"Heaven's Gate."
1896
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,012
Vincent Canby of "The New
York Times" wrote that,
1897
01:15:59,012 --> 01:16:00,764
"The notoriously over budget,
1898
01:16:00,764 --> 01:16:04,935
three-and-a-half-hour Western
was an unmitigated disaster."
1899
01:16:04,935 --> 01:16:06,103
And continued,
1900
01:16:06,103 --> 01:16:08,981
"The film fails so completely
that you might suspect
1901
01:16:08,981 --> 01:16:11,108
Mr. Cimino sold his
soul to the Devil
1902
01:16:11,108 --> 01:16:13,527
to obtain the success
of The Deer Hunter,
1903
01:16:13,527 --> 01:16:16,697
and the Devil has just
come around to collect."
1904
01:16:16,697 --> 01:16:19,449
That review was
nitroglycerin in newsprint.
1905
01:16:19,449 --> 01:16:21,118
I couldn't stop rereading it.
1906
01:16:21,118 --> 01:16:23,120
I counted the hours
till school was over
1907
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,540
so I could race over to Cinema
I to catch it opening day.
1908
01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:28,375
I didn't care if they
thought it sucked.
1909
01:16:28,375 --> 01:16:30,294
I had to see for myself.
1910
01:16:30,294 --> 01:16:32,796
Sometimes the thought of
a very bad movie was just
1911
01:16:32,796 --> 01:16:34,965
as enticing as a very good one.
1912
01:16:34,965 --> 01:16:37,968
Of course, not everyone was
as adventurous as I was.
1913
01:16:37,968 --> 01:16:40,721
A week after the film opened,
it was yanked from theaters
1914
01:16:40,721 --> 01:16:43,974
because it was such a
cataclysmic box office bomb.
1915
01:16:43,974 --> 01:16:47,060
It basically put the film
studio out of business.
1916
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:50,814
I didn't love the movie,
but an unmitigated disaster?
1917
01:16:50,814 --> 01:16:52,399
Had they seen "Meteor?"
1918
01:16:52,399 --> 01:16:54,318
- That meteor's five miles wide
1919
01:16:54,318 --> 01:16:55,986
and it's definitely
gonna hit us!
1920
01:16:55,986 --> 01:16:58,071
- [Richard] The critical
laceration of "Heaven's Gate"
1921
01:16:58,071 --> 01:17:00,907
was the beginning of my
obsession with movie reviews.
1922
01:17:00,907 --> 01:17:03,493
I eagerly attacked my parents'
newspaper every Friday
1923
01:17:03,493 --> 01:17:05,495
to see what the
critics would say.
1924
01:17:05,495 --> 01:17:07,497
I read the film section
in "The Village Voice"
1925
01:17:07,497 --> 01:17:08,999
and Pauline Kael in
"The New Yorker,"
1926
01:17:08,999 --> 01:17:11,585
and I became obsessed
with Siskel and Ebert,
1927
01:17:11,585 --> 01:17:13,670
who at that time
weren't quite famous,
1928
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:16,256
but instead were doing a
small weekly movie review show
1929
01:17:16,256 --> 01:17:17,674
on public television.
1930
01:17:17,674 --> 01:17:18,925
I loved those guys.
1931
01:17:18,925 --> 01:17:22,346
They were as film
nerded out as I was.
1932
01:17:22,346 --> 01:17:25,098
One thing that reading all
those movies reviews did was up
1933
01:17:25,098 --> 01:17:27,768
my game on defending
the movies I loved.
1934
01:17:27,768 --> 01:17:30,354
♪ Pennies from heaven ♪
1935
01:17:30,354 --> 01:17:33,065
- [Richard] Or expertly
eviscerating the ones I didn't.
1936
01:17:34,691 --> 01:17:36,860
I was always up for
a good film argument
1937
01:17:36,860 --> 01:17:39,279
and sometimes they'd
last for days.
1938
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:41,448
That said, no one was
ever able to convince me
1939
01:17:41,448 --> 01:17:44,451
that Robert Benton's
"Kramer vs. Kramer" deserved
1940
01:17:44,451 --> 01:17:46,286
to win the Best Director Oscar
1941
01:17:46,286 --> 01:17:49,706
over Francis Ford
Coppola's "Apocalypse Now."
1942
01:17:49,706 --> 01:17:52,209
[helicopter roaring]
1943
01:17:52,209 --> 01:17:55,295
Still, I loved
"Kramer vs. Kramer."
1944
01:17:55,295 --> 01:17:57,798
It was set on the Upper East
Side where my school was
1945
01:17:57,798 --> 01:17:59,966
and several of the locations
were places I walked
1946
01:17:59,966 --> 01:18:01,718
by every day.
1947
01:18:01,718 --> 01:18:05,055
It was exciting to see my city
when I went to the movies.
1948
01:18:05,055 --> 01:18:08,975
Peter Falk in a taxi in Herald
Square in "The In-Laws,"
1949
01:18:08,975 --> 01:18:10,977
the Upper West Side
restaurant my parents
1950
01:18:10,977 --> 01:18:13,814
and I would sometimes go
to in "The King of Comedy,"
1951
01:18:13,814 --> 01:18:15,232
the corner where I grew up
1952
01:18:15,232 --> 01:18:18,485
in the opening sequence
of "Romancing The Stone."
1953
01:18:18,485 --> 01:18:21,488
"Kramer vs. Kramer" was
a true New York movie.
1954
01:18:21,488 --> 01:18:24,074
Every inch of it felt
lived in and real.
1955
01:18:24,074 --> 01:18:26,827
Dustin Hoffman was deeply
moving in the film,
1956
01:18:26,827 --> 01:18:28,578
out of his depth as a parent.
1957
01:18:28,578 --> 01:18:30,664
- Daddy, it's
burning, it's burning!
1958
01:18:30,664 --> 01:18:32,499
- What?
- It's burning.
1959
01:18:33,333 --> 01:18:34,334
- Ow!
1960
01:18:34,334 --> 01:18:35,335
Damn it!
1961
01:18:35,335 --> 01:18:37,337
Goddamn her!
1962
01:18:37,337 --> 01:18:39,589
- [Richard] But stepping
up when it mattered.
1963
01:18:39,589 --> 01:18:41,091
It would be years
I have to admit,
1964
01:18:41,091 --> 01:18:42,259
before I could appreciate
1965
01:18:42,259 --> 01:18:44,428
Meryl Streep's
complicated character.
1966
01:18:44,428 --> 01:18:46,430
At the time, I hated her in it.
1967
01:18:46,430 --> 01:18:48,014
- Okay, look, we're
gonna sit here, and-
1968
01:18:48,014 --> 01:18:49,850
- [Richard] The movie was
about divorce and it resonated
1969
01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:51,017
because all around me,
1970
01:18:51,017 --> 01:18:52,853
my friends' parents
were splitting up.
1971
01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:55,188
It was like a Manhattan
Upper Middle Class virus
1972
01:18:55,188 --> 01:18:57,607
that was spreading
at an alarming pace.
1973
01:18:57,607 --> 01:18:59,109
It was everywhere.
1974
01:18:59,109 --> 01:19:01,695
I always assumed my parents
would be together forever,
1975
01:19:01,695 --> 01:19:03,947
but around the time that
"Kramer vs. Kramer" came out,
1976
01:19:03,947 --> 01:19:06,783
my parents' arguments were
getting edgier and louder.
1977
01:19:06,783 --> 01:19:08,368
- [Ted] Just do
what you have to do.
1978
01:19:08,368 --> 01:19:09,453
[glass shattering]
1979
01:19:09,453 --> 01:19:10,704
- [Richard] And I
remember crying,
1980
01:19:10,704 --> 01:19:13,206
thinking they would
be the next to split.
1981
01:19:13,206 --> 01:19:14,291
They didn't.
1982
01:19:14,291 --> 01:19:15,375
My parents stayed together
1983
01:19:15,375 --> 01:19:16,877
and pretty happily, it seemed,
1984
01:19:16,877 --> 01:19:19,796
for 40 years until my dad died.
1985
01:19:19,796 --> 01:19:22,132
This, even though my
father was a master flirt
1986
01:19:22,132 --> 01:19:23,633
when he wanted to be,
1987
01:19:23,633 --> 01:19:27,137
and secretive in the way a
man having affairs would be,
1988
01:19:27,137 --> 01:19:29,055
I didn't think about
it much then, though
1989
01:19:29,055 --> 01:19:32,225
I saw so many films about
infidelity in high school,
1990
01:19:32,225 --> 01:19:36,480
"An Unmarried Woman,"
"Betrayal," "Body Heat."
1991
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:38,231
- I'm a married woman.
1992
01:19:38,231 --> 01:19:39,065
- Meaning what?
1993
01:19:40,233 --> 01:19:41,902
- Meaning I'm not
looking for company.
1994
01:19:41,902 --> 01:19:44,488
- And you should have said,
"I'm a happily married woman."
1995
01:19:44,488 --> 01:19:46,490
- [Richard] But now I wonder
about all those summer nights
1996
01:19:46,490 --> 01:19:47,824
my father was in New York City
1997
01:19:47,824 --> 01:19:49,659
when my mother and I
were in Connecticut.
1998
01:19:49,659 --> 01:19:51,077
What was he doing?
1999
01:19:51,077 --> 01:19:53,163
Was he just going home
alone at the end of his day
2000
01:19:53,163 --> 01:19:54,748
or was there something else?
2001
01:19:54,748 --> 01:19:56,750
Did he cheat on my mother
like Albert Finney did
2002
01:19:56,750 --> 01:19:58,168
to Diane Keaton
2003
01:19:58,168 --> 01:19:59,836
in Alan Parker's devastating
"Shoot The Moon."
2004
01:19:59,836 --> 01:20:01,171
- Well then, tell
me about Sandy.
2005
01:20:01,171 --> 01:20:03,340
Does she fuck you
morning, noon, and night?
2006
01:20:03,340 --> 01:20:04,508
- [Richard] I don't know.
2007
01:20:04,508 --> 01:20:06,510
At least I didn't know then.
2008
01:20:06,510 --> 01:20:09,679
Near the end of my father's
life and later after he died,
2009
01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:12,182
I would uncover some
of his many secrets.
2010
01:20:12,182 --> 01:20:14,684
Most were ones I
didn't wanna know.
2011
01:20:14,684 --> 01:20:16,353
It's funny how mysteries
are the center of
2012
01:20:16,353 --> 01:20:17,687
so many great movies,
2013
01:20:17,687 --> 01:20:19,773
but in real life,
solving those mysteries,
2014
01:20:19,773 --> 01:20:23,360
revealing dark secrets can
shatter perfect memories.
2015
01:20:24,361 --> 01:20:25,779
I can't just look at my youth
2016
01:20:25,779 --> 01:20:28,198
with the happy tint
of nostalgia anymore,
2017
01:20:28,198 --> 01:20:29,699
but I accept it all.
2018
01:20:29,699 --> 01:20:31,451
My parents were simply human.
2019
01:20:31,451 --> 01:20:32,869
That's the truth.
2020
01:20:32,869 --> 01:20:35,372
And growing up is finally
just understanding that.
2021
01:20:37,207 --> 01:20:38,875
In 10th grade, I started to keep
2022
01:20:38,875 --> 01:20:41,378
a list of all the
movies I saw that year.
2023
01:20:41,378 --> 01:20:43,713
I'd write it in the back
of my school's yearbook,
2024
01:20:43,713 --> 01:20:47,300
on one of the advertising
pages just as a record.
2025
01:20:47,300 --> 01:20:49,970
By senior year, my list of
movies overflowed to the pages
2026
01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:53,056
beyond and an
eclectic list it was.
2027
01:20:53,056 --> 01:20:54,558
- Showtime, folks.
2028
01:20:54,558 --> 01:20:56,560
- [Richard] I could just as
well be swooning over
2029
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:57,894
"Q - The Winged Serpent,"
2030
01:20:57,894 --> 01:20:59,729
an awesome low budget
Larry Cohen movie
2031
01:20:59,729 --> 01:21:01,982
about a large serpent
living in Manhattan
2032
01:21:01,982 --> 01:21:03,900
as I would be at Robert
Redford's beautiful
2033
01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:06,069
and emotional,
"Ordinary People."
2034
01:21:06,069 --> 01:21:09,489
The fact was I was inhaling
movies at a furious pace.
2035
01:21:09,489 --> 01:21:11,908
If they projected it, I went.
2036
01:21:11,908 --> 01:21:16,663
"Capricorn One," "Porky's
II," "Superman III,"
2037
01:21:16,663 --> 01:21:21,334
"The Class of 1984,"
"1990 The Bronx Warriors,"
2038
01:21:21,334 --> 01:21:22,586
[cannon blasting]
2039
01:21:22,586 --> 01:21:24,588
whatever it was, I was there.
2040
01:21:24,588 --> 01:21:27,424
My father would often ask why
I was seeing such garbage.
2041
01:21:27,424 --> 01:21:29,009
I told him I learned something
from every movie I saw
2042
01:21:29,009 --> 01:21:31,678
and while he didn't
believe it, I did.
2043
01:21:31,678 --> 01:21:33,763
Plus, a lot of those
movies were simply fun.
2044
01:21:33,763 --> 01:21:35,432
"Rocky III" was
about as good a time
2045
01:21:35,432 --> 01:21:36,683
as I've ever had at the movies.
2046
01:21:36,683 --> 01:21:38,184
- I pity the fool.
2047
01:21:38,184 --> 01:21:40,103
- [Richard] Plus, because
we went to a sneak preview,
2048
01:21:40,103 --> 01:21:42,772
they gave us a free 45
record of "Eye of the Tiger"
2049
01:21:42,772 --> 01:21:44,024
by Survivor.
2050
01:21:44,024 --> 01:21:46,026
Who wouldn't want that?
2051
01:21:46,026 --> 01:21:48,028
I also went to a sneak
preview of a film
2052
01:21:48,028 --> 01:21:50,113
by one of my favorite
directors growing up,
2053
01:21:50,113 --> 01:21:51,531
Steven Spielberg.
2054
01:21:51,531 --> 01:21:53,199
I didn't have high
hopes for the movie.
2055
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:54,618
I hadn't heard
anything about it,
2056
01:21:54,618 --> 01:21:56,953
and the photos at the
theater looked kind of lame,
2057
01:21:56,953 --> 01:21:58,204
but about 30 seconds
2058
01:21:58,204 --> 01:22:00,123
after "Raiders of the
Lost Ark" started,
2059
01:22:00,123 --> 01:22:02,459
I knew that my initial
instincts were rubbish
2060
01:22:02,459 --> 01:22:03,627
and I was about to rocket
2061
01:22:03,627 --> 01:22:06,713
to some higher
cinematic pleasure dome.
2062
01:22:06,713 --> 01:22:09,549
It was really nice to
turn my dad on to a movie.
2063
01:22:09,549 --> 01:22:11,551
If he liked something
I recommended,
2064
01:22:11,551 --> 01:22:13,470
I always felt a rush
2065
01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:16,473
as if I was sitting on
his lap again as a child.
2066
01:22:16,473 --> 01:22:19,809
Only this time, I was the
one introducing him to films.
2067
01:22:19,809 --> 01:22:21,978
He didn't always understand
me in high school,
2068
01:22:21,978 --> 01:22:24,147
but he understood movies
and my love for them
2069
01:22:24,147 --> 01:22:25,815
and that's where we connected.
2070
01:22:25,815 --> 01:22:27,984
I certainly didn't
recommend everything to him.
2071
01:22:27,984 --> 01:22:30,904
Pretty sure he wouldn't
have dug "Ms .45,"
2072
01:22:30,904 --> 01:22:33,323
but if it was in his
cinematic sweet spot,
2073
01:22:33,323 --> 01:22:35,992
penetrating dramas like
"The Great Santini,"
2074
01:22:35,992 --> 01:22:38,328
visionary sci-fi,
like "Blade Runner,"
2075
01:22:38,328 --> 01:22:40,163
a throwback film like "Raiders,"
2076
01:22:40,163 --> 01:22:42,165
he would usually
respond like I did.
2077
01:22:42,165 --> 01:22:42,999
[metal clanking]
2078
01:22:42,999 --> 01:22:45,669
[man screaming]
2079
01:22:48,672 --> 01:22:51,925
What a strange time in
film the early '80s.
2080
01:22:51,925 --> 01:22:54,010
While later in the
decade, the Top Guns
2081
01:22:54,010 --> 01:22:56,763
and "Ghostbusters II" would
dumb down the studio business
2082
01:22:56,763 --> 01:22:59,182
in a way it would
never recover from,
2083
01:22:59,182 --> 01:23:01,685
many of the early '80s
studio movies still tried
2084
01:23:01,685 --> 01:23:04,521
to embrace intelligence
over commerce.
2085
01:23:04,521 --> 01:23:07,607
"Raging Bull," "All That Jazz."
2086
01:23:07,607 --> 01:23:10,694
"My Favorite Year,"
"Sophie's Choice."
2087
01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:13,279
In the years I was inhaling
movies at a critical pace,
2088
01:23:13,279 --> 01:23:15,532
those films and
others pushed buttons
2089
01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:17,617
and caught people off guard.
2090
01:23:17,617 --> 01:23:20,870
Yes, there was plenty of
crap and I saw most of it,
2091
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:23,456
but along with the crap,
there was something else.
2092
01:23:23,456 --> 01:23:24,791
There was art.
2093
01:23:26,710 --> 01:23:28,878
Some of the other films
that I saw in that period
2094
01:23:28,878 --> 01:23:31,548
that had an impact
on me, artful or not,
2095
01:23:31,548 --> 01:23:33,466
included John
Carpenter's "The Thing,"
2096
01:23:33,466 --> 01:23:37,053
a terrifying and wonderfully
claustrophobic horror fest
2097
01:23:37,053 --> 01:23:39,723
that made me a lifelong
lover of practically done,
2098
01:23:39,723 --> 01:23:42,976
non-CGI visual effects.
2099
01:23:42,976 --> 01:23:45,979
I dug "Starstruck," a rough
and tumble Australian musical,
2100
01:23:45,979 --> 01:23:47,814
directed by Gillian Armstrong.
2101
01:23:47,814 --> 01:23:49,566
I remember listening
to the soundtrack
2102
01:23:49,566 --> 01:23:51,109
on a dinky cassette player.
2103
01:23:52,068 --> 01:23:53,820
[upbeat music]
2104
01:23:53,820 --> 01:23:56,239
There was Bill
Forsyth's "Local Hero,"
2105
01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:57,323
still one of the lightest,
2106
01:23:57,323 --> 01:23:59,993
most swirling original
movies ever made
2107
01:23:59,993 --> 01:24:01,995
with a great Mark
Knopfler score.
2108
01:24:03,747 --> 01:24:06,249
Another great score
was by Philip Glass
2109
01:24:06,249 --> 01:24:07,584
for "Koyaanisqatsi,"
2110
01:24:07,584 --> 01:24:08,918
which Coppola produced.
2111
01:24:08,918 --> 01:24:10,837
A wordless, plotless documentary
2112
01:24:10,837 --> 01:24:12,589
about a world out of balance,
2113
01:24:12,589 --> 01:24:14,924
it sounded potentially
slow and pretentious,
2114
01:24:14,924 --> 01:24:16,926
but because Coppola
was involved,
2115
01:24:16,926 --> 01:24:19,262
I went and I was blown away.
2116
01:24:19,262 --> 01:24:21,097
I saw it three times.
2117
01:24:22,599 --> 01:24:25,185
Debra Winger stole my heart
in "Officer and a Gentleman."
2118
01:24:25,185 --> 01:24:27,520
I saw it twice because
of her earthy, sexy,
2119
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,855
lived in performance
2120
01:24:28,855 --> 01:24:31,024
and frankly, the
graphic sex scene,
2121
01:24:31,024 --> 01:24:32,609
though nothing
compares to how a hot
2122
01:24:32,609 --> 01:24:35,945
and beautiful Mel Gibson and
Sigourney Weaver were together
2123
01:24:35,945 --> 01:24:38,865
in Peter Weir's journalists-in-
a-war-zone romantic thriller,
2124
01:24:38,865 --> 01:24:41,117
"The Year of Living
Dangerously."
2125
01:24:41,117 --> 01:24:43,870
I was turned on by both of them.
2126
01:24:43,870 --> 01:24:46,623
Jessica Lange was
ravishing in "Tootsie,"
2127
01:24:46,623 --> 01:24:48,291
but it was her devastating
2128
01:24:48,291 --> 01:24:51,628
and ferocious performance in
"Frances" that stuck with me.
2129
01:24:51,628 --> 01:24:54,798
The film was about the 1940s
movie star, Frances Farmer,
2130
01:24:54,798 --> 01:24:57,801
who because she was
fiery, unpredictable,
2131
01:24:57,801 --> 01:25:00,470
and refused to play
by society's rules,
2132
01:25:00,470 --> 01:25:02,055
was given a lobotomy
2133
01:25:02,055 --> 01:25:04,808
which tragically
neutered her personality.
2134
01:25:04,808 --> 01:25:07,560
This horrific surgery was
all the rage at the time
2135
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,647
in dealing with people
who did not conform.
2136
01:25:10,647 --> 01:25:13,817
- Along with the cure
comes a loss of affect,
2137
01:25:13,817 --> 01:25:16,486
a kind of emotional flattening
2138
01:25:16,486 --> 01:25:19,072
with diminished creativity
and imagination.
2139
01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:22,575
- [Richard] The movie
was heartbreaking.
2140
01:25:23,743 --> 01:25:25,662
"Cutter's Way" was
one of those dark
2141
01:25:25,662 --> 01:25:27,997
and emotional
cinematic discoveries
2142
01:25:27,997 --> 01:25:30,667
that lift you up off the ground.
2143
01:25:30,667 --> 01:25:33,253
With a healthy amount
of '70 cynicism
2144
01:25:33,253 --> 01:25:35,839
matched with a beautiful
1980's aesthetic,
2145
01:25:35,839 --> 01:25:38,091
courtesy of director,
Ivan Passer,
2146
01:25:38,091 --> 01:25:40,844
and cinematographer,
Jordan Cronenweth,
2147
01:25:40,844 --> 01:25:43,429
it showed flawed characters
desperately trying
2148
01:25:43,429 --> 01:25:46,516
to do the right thing in the
face of overwhelming odds.
2149
01:25:47,517 --> 01:25:49,352
Amazing how Jeff
Bridges kept showing up
2150
01:25:49,352 --> 01:25:51,604
in some of my favorite films.
2151
01:25:52,564 --> 01:25:53,857
I went to "Out Of The Blue"
2152
01:25:53,857 --> 01:25:55,692
because it was directed
by Dennis Hopper
2153
01:25:55,692 --> 01:25:57,193
who had been in
"Apocalypse Now,"
2154
01:25:57,193 --> 01:25:59,863
and I remember being
captivated by Linda Manz
2155
01:25:59,863 --> 01:26:03,199
and this dark little story
of tragedy in punk rock.
2156
01:26:04,868 --> 01:26:07,120
"Over The Edge"
by Jonathan Kaplan
2157
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,205
and starring a very
young Matt Dillon,
2158
01:26:09,205 --> 01:26:11,040
had a similar punk attitude,
2159
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,041
[gunshot]
[explosion]
2160
01:26:12,041 --> 01:26:15,044
as did Penelope
Spheeris's amazing doc,
2161
01:26:15,044 --> 01:26:17,714
"The Decline of
Western Civilization,"
2162
01:26:17,714 --> 01:26:21,551
as did Susan Seidelman's low-
budget fireball, "Smithereens,"
2163
01:26:21,551 --> 01:26:24,888
as did Nick Cage and Martha
Coolidge's "Valley Girl,"
2164
01:26:24,888 --> 01:26:26,389
one of the greatest,
2165
01:26:26,389 --> 01:26:28,892
"Hello, I'm destined to be a
fucking movie star" performances
2166
01:26:28,892 --> 01:26:30,393
I've ever seen.
2167
01:26:31,394 --> 01:26:32,729
[somber music]
2168
01:26:32,729 --> 01:26:34,814
The more and more movies I saw,
2169
01:26:34,814 --> 01:26:37,734
the worse and worse
my grades got.
2170
01:26:37,734 --> 01:26:41,154
By senior year, I was nearly
failing out of high school.
2171
01:26:41,154 --> 01:26:44,157
My SAT scores were
even more embarrassing.
2172
01:26:45,491 --> 01:26:47,744
My directorial heroes
were the first generation
2173
01:26:47,744 --> 01:26:49,913
that went to film schools.
2174
01:26:49,913 --> 01:26:54,751
George Lucas at USC, Francis
Ford Coppola at UCLA,
2175
01:26:54,751 --> 01:26:57,754
and Martin Scorsese at NYU.
2176
01:26:57,754 --> 01:27:00,590
They had set a trail
I wanted to follow.
2177
01:27:00,590 --> 01:27:03,009
It didn't matter that many
great directors before
2178
01:27:03,009 --> 01:27:06,012
and after completely
bypassed film school.
2179
01:27:06,012 --> 01:27:08,264
In my mind and at that time,
2180
01:27:08,264 --> 01:27:10,350
the main way to a career
in the movies was going
2181
01:27:10,350 --> 01:27:13,019
to one of those universities.
2182
01:27:13,019 --> 01:27:15,772
Plus, I had no other options.
2183
01:27:15,772 --> 01:27:17,690
I had no interest
in anything else
2184
01:27:17,690 --> 01:27:20,610
and no talent for
anything else either,
2185
01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:22,695
so I sent in my applications.
2186
01:27:22,695 --> 01:27:25,198
My guidance counselor
almost cried.
2187
01:27:25,198 --> 01:27:27,450
There was no way with my
grades I was getting anywhere
2188
01:27:27,450 --> 01:27:31,371
near those schools
and it was true.
2189
01:27:31,371 --> 01:27:34,123
With each application
came a rejection.
2190
01:27:34,123 --> 01:27:38,211
USC Film School,
UCLA Film School.
2191
01:27:38,211 --> 01:27:39,796
My dream of following Lucas
2192
01:27:39,796 --> 01:27:43,883
and Coppola to California
became just that, a sad dream.
2193
01:27:45,301 --> 01:27:49,138
Then in February, I got turned
down by Boston University,
2194
01:27:49,138 --> 01:27:54,060
my safety school, the one
I'd go to if all else failed.
2195
01:27:54,060 --> 01:27:56,479
The skyscrapers of
the city collapsed
2196
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,315
around me like some
cheesy disaster movie.
2197
01:27:59,315 --> 01:28:02,318
I had been given a
gift, a loving family,
2198
01:28:02,318 --> 01:28:04,237
a privileged upbringing
that allowed me
2199
01:28:04,237 --> 01:28:07,907
to become the person I
wanted to be and I blew it.
2200
01:28:07,907 --> 01:28:10,034
I fucking completely blew it.
2201
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,829
What was I going to do?
2202
01:28:12,829 --> 01:28:15,081
Movies were the
only thing I knew.
2203
01:28:15,081 --> 01:28:17,667
From the earliest age, I
had been molded by my father
2204
01:28:17,667 --> 01:28:19,836
to love and devour them,
2205
01:28:19,836 --> 01:28:24,007
to watch films and talk
about films and make films.
2206
01:28:24,007 --> 01:28:26,592
They were my blood, my heart.
2207
01:28:26,592 --> 01:28:29,679
[somber music]
2208
01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:32,432
My parents, knowing
that I was spiraling
2209
01:28:32,432 --> 01:28:34,517
and seeing how
truly scared I was
2210
01:28:34,517 --> 01:28:37,186
at the prospect of not
getting in anywhere,
2211
01:28:37,186 --> 01:28:39,355
did their best to comfort me,
2212
01:28:39,355 --> 01:28:42,859
though I knew they were
worried too and disappointed.
2213
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,696
Finally, my father asked if
I was free one Saturday to go
2214
01:28:46,696 --> 01:28:48,197
to the movies with him.
2215
01:28:48,197 --> 01:28:50,783
Go to the movies,
not with my friends,
2216
01:28:50,783 --> 01:28:54,620
but with him for the
first time in months
2217
01:28:54,620 --> 01:28:58,041
to go see "Winter Kills."
2218
01:28:58,041 --> 01:28:59,417
And so we did.
2219
01:29:00,877 --> 01:29:03,796
And afterwards, on the way
home, he told me something,
2220
01:29:03,796 --> 01:29:05,214
something that made
everything I knew
2221
01:29:05,214 --> 01:29:07,884
about him suddenly make sense.
2222
01:29:07,884 --> 01:29:10,136
He told me that when
he was a young man,
2223
01:29:10,136 --> 01:29:11,971
dreaming about being an artist,
2224
01:29:11,971 --> 01:29:15,141
he, like Jessica Lange
as Frances Farmer,
2225
01:29:15,141 --> 01:29:16,976
was fiery, unpredictable,
2226
01:29:16,976 --> 01:29:19,312
and refused to play
by society's rules,
2227
01:29:19,312 --> 01:29:22,315
and his parents had
almost lobotomized him.
2228
01:29:22,315 --> 01:29:25,735
[somber music]
2229
01:29:25,735 --> 01:29:27,820
They hated his nonconformity,
2230
01:29:27,820 --> 01:29:30,740
his dream of an
artist's way of life.
2231
01:29:30,740 --> 01:29:33,659
It was only because a forward
thinking uncle intervened
2232
01:29:33,659 --> 01:29:37,246
that my father was spared this
terrifying medical procedure.
2233
01:29:38,664 --> 01:29:39,999
With that news,
2234
01:29:39,999 --> 01:29:42,919
I finally understood why
my father lived his life
2235
01:29:42,919 --> 01:29:44,337
the way he did,
2236
01:29:44,337 --> 01:29:47,256
why he was unlike the
other dads in the school,
2237
01:29:47,256 --> 01:29:49,509
why he refused to
get a normal job,
2238
01:29:49,509 --> 01:29:51,844
and basically lived
his life tap dancing
2239
01:29:51,844 --> 01:29:54,347
on the edge of respectability.
2240
01:29:54,347 --> 01:29:56,766
It was because his parents
had almost destroyed him
2241
01:29:56,766 --> 01:30:00,103
for being himself and he
was gonna make damn sure
2242
01:30:00,103 --> 01:30:02,605
that was never
gonna happen again.
2243
01:30:02,605 --> 01:30:05,108
Good, bad, liar,
2244
01:30:05,108 --> 01:30:07,443
thief, husband, father.
2245
01:30:07,443 --> 01:30:09,529
My dad was who he was.
2246
01:30:09,529 --> 01:30:11,280
No one was gonna stop that.
2247
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,700
He was a man truly
comfortable in his own skin.
2248
01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:16,202
I loved him for it.
2249
01:30:16,202 --> 01:30:18,788
And because my father
had his artistic dreams
2250
01:30:18,788 --> 01:30:20,790
nearly destroyed
by his own parents,
2251
01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:22,875
he went out of his way to
make sure I would never feel
2252
01:30:22,875 --> 01:30:25,128
that I couldn't have
an artistic life.
2253
01:30:25,128 --> 01:30:26,629
"College or no college,"
2254
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:28,714
he said, "It didn't matter."
2255
01:30:28,714 --> 01:30:30,967
I would be all right.
2256
01:30:30,967 --> 01:30:33,469
I would be all right if I
just took that love of movies
2257
01:30:33,469 --> 01:30:36,556
that he had given me and let
it take me where it might.
2258
01:30:36,556 --> 01:30:38,724
I would be all right if
I could be comfortable
2259
01:30:38,724 --> 01:30:40,977
in my own skin like he was,
2260
01:30:40,977 --> 01:30:44,313
comfortable being the
film geek that I was.
2261
01:30:44,313 --> 01:30:46,983
[upbeat music]
2262
01:30:48,734 --> 01:30:50,319
Rocky running up those stairs
2263
01:30:50,319 --> 01:30:52,238
in Philadelphia was
nothing compared
2264
01:30:52,238 --> 01:30:53,698
to how I felt that day.
2265
01:30:54,740 --> 01:30:56,576
I saw a future again.
2266
01:30:56,576 --> 01:30:59,162
I would continue making movies.
2267
01:30:59,162 --> 01:31:00,746
I might not win every fight,
2268
01:31:00,746 --> 01:31:03,624
but I knew I could
go the distance.
2269
01:31:03,666 --> 01:31:08,171
[instrumental music]
2270
01:31:14,343 --> 01:31:16,179
Two weeks later, I came home
2271
01:31:16,179 --> 01:31:19,182
to an acceptance letter
from NYU Film School.
2272
01:31:21,184 --> 01:31:23,686
One more story about my dad.
2273
01:31:23,686 --> 01:31:27,023
It takes place about 15
years after high school.
2274
01:31:27,023 --> 01:31:29,442
I've made a few independent
films at this point,
2275
01:31:29,442 --> 01:31:32,195
but I'm barely scraping
by financially.
2276
01:31:32,195 --> 01:31:34,030
I've managed to raise
a million dollars
2277
01:31:34,030 --> 01:31:35,615
to make my movie, "Oxygen,"
2278
01:31:35,615 --> 01:31:37,033
much of it coming from
2279
01:31:37,033 --> 01:31:39,535
the air freshener
king of Long Island.
2280
01:31:39,535 --> 01:31:41,621
Three weeks before
we were to shoot,
2281
01:31:41,621 --> 01:31:43,789
the investor
paperwork wasn't done
2282
01:31:43,789 --> 01:31:46,959
and I had the film's
pre-production payroll to meet
2283
01:31:46,959 --> 01:31:49,629
with no money in
the bank to pay it.
2284
01:31:49,629 --> 01:31:53,049
Desperate broke and facing
my movie falling apart,
2285
01:31:53,049 --> 01:31:56,552
I did what any self-respecting
film director would do.
2286
01:31:56,552 --> 01:31:59,222
I turned to a loan
shark for help.
2287
01:31:59,222 --> 01:32:01,224
I turned to my father.
2288
01:32:01,224 --> 01:32:02,475
Through thick cigar smoke,
2289
01:32:02,475 --> 01:32:06,145
my father agreed to loan
me $10,000 for a week
2290
01:32:06,145 --> 01:32:08,731
until the investor's
money came through.
2291
01:32:08,731 --> 01:32:12,318
He would deliver it to me in
cash in a brown paper bag
2292
01:32:12,318 --> 01:32:16,906
in specific denominations
wrapped in thick rubber bands.
2293
01:32:16,906 --> 01:32:19,575
In return, I would
pay him back $11,000
2294
01:32:19,575 --> 01:32:21,410
exactly seven days later,
2295
01:32:21,410 --> 01:32:25,081
in cash, in the
same denominations,
2296
01:32:25,081 --> 01:32:27,083
in the same brown paper bag
2297
01:32:27,083 --> 01:32:29,252
with the same
thick rubber bands.
2298
01:32:29,252 --> 01:32:31,087
It had to be the
same rubber bands.
2299
01:32:31,087 --> 01:32:33,923
In a weird way, only my
father could explain,
2300
01:32:33,923 --> 01:32:36,092
it was the most
important thing for him.
2301
01:32:36,092 --> 01:32:38,594
My dad's one week vig was 10%.
2302
01:32:38,594 --> 01:32:40,263
That was a lot of money.
2303
01:32:40,263 --> 01:32:42,932
When I tried to negotiate, he
stopped the conversation dead.
2304
01:32:42,932 --> 01:32:46,936
If I wanted his money, I
had to do it on his terms,
2305
01:32:46,936 --> 01:32:49,438
selfless and selfish.
2306
01:32:50,606 --> 01:32:53,526
But he came through for
me like he always did.
2307
01:32:53,526 --> 01:32:55,611
I paid him back and
the movie got made
2308
01:32:55,611 --> 01:32:58,781
and it led to other
movies, larger movies,
2309
01:32:58,781 --> 01:33:02,785
and TV pilots, and TV
series, and short films,
2310
01:33:02,785 --> 01:33:04,287
and documentaries.
2311
01:33:04,287 --> 01:33:07,123
Would any of that have
happened without my father,
2312
01:33:07,123 --> 01:33:08,874
without him holding
my hand all the way
2313
01:33:08,874 --> 01:33:11,127
through "King Kong"
when I was six,
2314
01:33:11,127 --> 01:33:12,962
sharing his movie
dreams with me?
2315
01:33:14,213 --> 01:33:16,716
It's sad that with all
the Super 8 films I made,
2316
01:33:16,716 --> 01:33:19,635
there's so very little
footage of my parents.
2317
01:33:19,635 --> 01:33:21,887
I didn't have them act in any
of my childhood productions
2318
01:33:21,887 --> 01:33:23,889
except that once early on
2319
01:33:23,889 --> 01:33:26,976
where my dad clearly
enjoyed playing the bad guy
2320
01:33:28,144 --> 01:33:30,563
and got strangled by my friend.
2321
01:33:30,563 --> 01:33:33,316
[somber music]
2322
01:33:38,654 --> 01:33:40,156
Before I was born,
2323
01:33:40,156 --> 01:33:43,242
there were these brief frames
at my cousin's first birthday,
2324
01:33:43,242 --> 01:33:45,578
grainy, shaky images
of my parents,
2325
01:33:45,578 --> 01:33:47,413
months after they were married.
2326
01:33:47,413 --> 01:33:49,999
Big smiles and big
dreams, I'm sure.
2327
01:33:51,167 --> 01:33:52,585
There was only one film,
2328
01:33:52,585 --> 01:33:55,171
even remotely feeling
like a family home movie,
2329
01:33:55,171 --> 01:33:57,089
a trip my parents and
their friends made
2330
01:33:57,089 --> 01:33:59,508
to visit me at sleepaway camp.
2331
01:33:59,508 --> 01:34:02,678
The footage is mostly of
me or my camp buddies,
2332
01:34:02,678 --> 01:34:05,431
but there are these three
quick shots of my dad,
2333
01:34:08,017 --> 01:34:11,103
just a few frames,
cigar in mouth,
2334
01:34:11,103 --> 01:34:14,690
shirt unbuttoned like he
used to wear in the summer.
2335
01:34:14,690 --> 01:34:17,026
It strangely really
captures him.
2336
01:34:17,026 --> 01:34:20,196
It's like I can step into
that frame of Super 8 film
2337
01:34:20,196 --> 01:34:22,281
and see my entire
childhood with him.
2338
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,203
And then there's this pan
that almost gets to him,
2339
01:34:27,203 --> 01:34:29,455
but heartbreakingly stops.
2340
01:34:29,455 --> 01:34:31,582
If only the camera
had kept panning.
2341
01:34:32,708 --> 01:34:35,127
There's even less
footage of my mother,
2342
01:34:35,127 --> 01:34:38,381
just this quick moment in
a yellow shirt sitting next
2343
01:34:38,381 --> 01:34:42,968
to her friend, Hannah,
looking happy and beautiful.
2344
01:34:42,968 --> 01:34:46,138
Just a few frames of
her, nothing more.
2345
01:34:46,138 --> 01:34:48,557
[somber music]
2346
01:34:48,557 --> 01:34:51,644
I did put my dad in a
few of my feature films
2347
01:34:51,644 --> 01:34:54,814
and I feel really lucky
to have that footage.
2348
01:34:54,814 --> 01:34:58,734
Yet when I watch it, I see the
older version of my father,
2349
01:34:58,734 --> 01:35:00,403
the father I knew as an adult,
2350
01:35:00,403 --> 01:35:05,241
when I came home on vacation
or stopped by for dinner,
2351
01:35:05,241 --> 01:35:08,744
as always a warm, loving,
complicated person,
2352
01:35:08,744 --> 01:35:11,831
but not the man who
is my whole world.
2353
01:35:11,831 --> 01:35:15,334
But still, when I look
into his eyes here,
2354
01:35:15,334 --> 01:35:17,420
I'm able to go back in time
2355
01:35:17,420 --> 01:35:20,423
to see the man I
built forts with
2356
01:35:20,423 --> 01:35:24,927
and read books on his lap
with and walked the city with,
2357
01:35:24,927 --> 01:35:29,849
the man who took me to the
movies, took me into the movies,
2358
01:35:29,849 --> 01:35:34,854
gave me this specific love,
this lucky cinematic life.
2359
01:35:35,771 --> 01:35:38,441
[somber music]
2360
01:35:40,526 --> 01:35:42,778
- Had a fellow used to come
in here every afternoon,
2361
01:35:42,778 --> 01:35:45,197
exactly at 3 on the nose.
2362
01:35:45,197 --> 01:35:47,616
I think he was a school teacher.
2363
01:35:47,616 --> 01:35:50,703
He used to come in here every
day, sit where you're sitting,
2364
01:35:50,703 --> 01:35:53,456
order a Maker's Mark,
pull out his false teeth,
2365
01:35:53,456 --> 01:35:54,707
and place it in front of him.
2366
01:35:54,707 --> 01:35:56,292
And get filthy drunk.
2367
01:35:57,585 --> 01:35:58,794
Then he died.
2368
01:35:58,794 --> 01:36:01,464
[somber music]
2369
01:36:04,216 --> 01:36:06,051
- That's a nice story, Sally.
2370
01:36:06,051 --> 01:36:07,970
- [Bartender] Yeah, it is.
2371
01:36:07,970 --> 01:36:10,639
[somber music]
2372
01:36:15,144 --> 01:36:16,562
[tape deck clicking]
2373
01:36:16,562 --> 01:36:21,567
[Upbeat instrumental music]
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