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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:10,320 That there may be a great deal of pain 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,400 that went with 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,519 a walk of four miles 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,559 and not knowing what might happen. 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,079 A night of sleeping with someone, 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,480 or near someone, 7 00:00:29,559 --> 00:00:33,159 and being afraid to fully go to sleep, 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,280 because you might wake up dead, 9 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:40,399 robbed, or arrested. 10 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:45,520 So within all of this, 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,719 is the life story of survival. 12 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:51,200 But survival is a word. 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,439 This is a story. 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,640 Cut, and take your film home. 15 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:06,439 (crickets chirping) (heartbeat thumping) 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,519 {\an8}(old-timey blues music) 17 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,120 - [Morgan] The whole progression of American music 18 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,719 is stemmed from that initial field holler... 19 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:36,760 That became the blues. 20 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,640 Blues guys, they weren't all professionals. 21 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:53,200 I remember Sunday morning blues sessions on the back porch, 22 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,920 the guys sitting with a bottle of gin. 23 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,159 Well, it wasn't a bottle of gin, 24 00:01:58,239 --> 00:02:01,920 it was a jar of white lightning, singing the blues. 25 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,519 (train whistle blowing) 26 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,000 (harmonica music) - It's all about feeling. 27 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,919 You can play a thousand notes a minute 28 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,919 and it just goes straight across the board, 29 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,520 and there's no feeling, it doesn't mean anything. 30 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:37,680 (singing) I love her in the morning, 31 00:02:37,759 --> 00:02:39,280 I love her at night. 32 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,960 The very next day, you know I hugged her just right. 33 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:44,240 I love my baby. 34 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,680 Well the blues, to all or most of us Black, 35 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:48,599 it's a feeling. 36 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,319 It come out of suffering. 37 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,319 (singing) I love my baby, 38 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,759 don't care a thing about me 39 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:01,039 Being denied, denial, refused, 40 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,080 abused, misused, that's what the blues is. 41 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:07,680 - See, a lot of times, uh, the younger people say, uh, 42 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:10,599 "That's old folks' music," the blues is. 43 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,560 But wait until they have a problem. 44 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,039 - There's no music in the world that cuts emotionally 45 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,120 the way that blues guitar can cut. 46 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:22,400 - Sincere, honest, true, for real and genuine... 47 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:26,919 Those five things. 48 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,719 If you have those five things, then you can play the blues. 49 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Otherwise, you gonna sound like a parakeet 50 00:03:32,199 --> 00:03:34,120 repeating something that you don't understand. 51 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:38,520 - He invented the whole approach that, 52 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:41,439 that modern electric blues players use. 53 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,319 He's the only guy, or musician of any sort, 54 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,680 male or female, that defines a genre of music. 55 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:54,439 - The people who follow blues music and are attracted to it, 56 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:59,039 recognize the honesty of the singer's story. 57 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,919 - Well, when you say blues, you gotta say B.B., 58 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,360 you know, no doubt. 59 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:04,759 - He's the master. 60 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,199 - He really is the grand master. 61 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,479 (energetic blues music) 62 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:36,720 - [Morgan] What makes somebody great, somebody special? 63 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,959 When you look at a man's life, can you truly say, 64 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,480 "That man made a difference"? 65 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,000 People say folk are born that way, 66 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:47,959 {\an8}or were blessed by a higher force. 67 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,839 {\an8}Others say your environment makes it so. 68 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,720 {\an8}In 1925, on a hot, sticky Wednesday 69 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,319 in the middle of September, the cries of a newborn baby 70 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:01,720 rang out from a sharecropper's cabin 71 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,639 over the cotton fields of the Mississippi Delta. 72 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,360 (baby crying) 73 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:10,040 A boy was born that day that was going to make a difference. 74 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,079 His name: Riley B. King. 75 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,079 (thunder booming) 76 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,120 - I was born, according to my dad, 77 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:36,199 {\an8}between a little place called Indianola and Itta Bena. 78 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:42,079 {\an8}So when I first talked about it, I said, 79 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,959 "Itta Bena," and that's been going on ever since. 80 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,800 * I walked my bedroom floor 81 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:50,560 * Hung down my head and cried 82 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:51,839 * I didn't exactly have the blues 83 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,519 * I just wasn't satisfied 84 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,759 * I need my baby, I ain't lyin' 85 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,360 * If I don't hurry up and find her 86 00:05:59,439 --> 00:06:01,439 * you know I think I'm going out of my mind * 87 00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:31,879 Mostly cotton is king in here. 88 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:35,639 Can you imagine being out there on a tractor, 89 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,160 and you had to go? 90 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,759 Those rows of cotton look like they're a mile, 91 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,000 a mile and a half long. 92 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:45,800 (energetic blues music) 93 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,000 (electric guitar solo) (audience clapping) 94 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,439 From what he said, uh, if I can understand him correctly, 95 00:07:13,519 --> 00:07:15,759 we're about at the turn to the road. 96 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:19,560 Dad, you did all right, so far. 97 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,000 - [Voiceover] He must be lookin' over us, Bubba. 98 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:25,839 - Yeah, he's lookin' over us now. 99 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,839 (applause) 100 00:07:36,959 --> 00:07:39,279 Thank you, thank you! 101 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,959 To be here, where somebody can truly say, 102 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:51,800 "B, this is where you were born, 103 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:55,199 "this is where the world first knew about you, right here," 104 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:58,160 is a high for me 'cause I feel very good. 105 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,560 My mother was named Nora Ella. 106 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:03,120 My father was named Albert Lee. 107 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:06,160 But for a young couple that hadn't been married too long 108 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,920 and their first kid coming out, they lived not too far 109 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,199 back over here. 110 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:14,040 Some of the houses in the area where I lived at, 111 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,319 houses that we could look out 112 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:18,439 through the boards of the house 113 00:08:18,519 --> 00:08:21,639 different times of day and tell what time it was. 114 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,199 (thunder booming) 115 00:08:23,279 --> 00:08:25,560 When it rained, you had to have several buckets, 116 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:28,600 'cause the water would drop through the top. 117 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,519 You have to set a bucket to keep it 118 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,559 from splashing on the floor. 119 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,120 My mother, I guess, was like most mothers, 120 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,399 wanna make sure that all the teaching 121 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,320 and all of the guiding that they could do for you. 122 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:47,120 And I believe my mother loved me, 123 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,120 and I know I loved her. 124 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 And everything she tried to teach me, I tried to learn. 125 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,919 So finally my mother and my dad, when they were separated, 126 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,600 my mom left and moved to Kilmichael, Mississippi. 127 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,840 - I think his mother's presence 128 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:07,879 {\an8}had a profound influence on him. 129 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,519 {\an8}He obviously thought a great deal of her 130 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,519 {\an8}and was very impacted by her loss. 131 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,720 {\an8}- I noticed that my mother had 132 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:19,720 big spots of blood clots in her eye. 133 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,080 She died of diabetes, 134 00:09:23,159 --> 00:09:25,399 same as her son have, this one. 135 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:29,679 {\an8}* Nobody loves me but my mother 136 00:09:32,519 --> 00:09:34,559 * And she could be jivin' too * 137 00:09:34,639 --> 00:09:37,679 I had been living with other people 138 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:40,440 all of my life since my mom. 139 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,960 {\an8}I think Miss Mima might have helped 140 00:09:44,039 --> 00:09:46,240 {\an8}take care of him when his mother passed. 141 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,120 {\an8}And then also, I know Miss Beulah did. 142 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,600 - I had two or three great-aunts. 143 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,759 One of them was the one that used to have the phonograph 144 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,519 that I used to go to her, her name was Jemima. 145 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,919 I used to love to go to her house for that, 146 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,600 but didn't like to go to her house 147 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,519 'cause she always kissed me, and she always dipped snuff, 148 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,519 and I didn't like snuff. 149 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,399 And every time she'd kiss me, I'd get a taste of that snuff. 150 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,960 So I'd beg my mom, "Don't take me over there!" 151 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:18,919 Then I'd think about her phonograph. 152 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,200 (laughs) "It's okay, take me on over there." 153 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:25,279 Kind of fix myself for that first kiss. 154 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,720 After that, I didn't have to go through that again. 155 00:10:27,799 --> 00:10:31,960 {\an8}- He moved from there over on, uh, Edwayne Henderson place, 156 00:10:32,039 --> 00:10:34,240 {\an8}and that's when Riley started staying with him 157 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,039 {\an8}on the George Bood place. 158 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,919 And he moved over there to stay with 159 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,200 his Uncle William and them to tend to the baby. 160 00:10:40,279 --> 00:10:44,200 - My mother's brother was married to 161 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:46,759 a sanctified preacher's sister. 162 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,519 This preacher, after church on a Sunday afternoon, 163 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,840 would visit his sister, which was my aunt, 164 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:55,480 and he'd always lay this guitar on the bed 165 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,679 and I'd go get it soon as they'd turn their back. 166 00:10:57,759 --> 00:11:01,639 So I think this is really what started me to fooling 167 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,399 with the guitar, not by listening 168 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,159 to some of the other people. 169 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,519 They'd go in and eat, which I loved to see him 170 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,039 because he played guitar, but I didn't like them going in 171 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,080 and having dinner before the rest of us 172 00:11:12,159 --> 00:11:15,480 'cause nothing was left but the chicken feet. 173 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,240 But when I'd hear him play the guitar, 174 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,720 I thought that was the nicest thing ever. 175 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:24,320 And I guess that's about when I first started 176 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,120 payin' attention to it. 177 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,639 (lighthearted old-timey instrumental) 178 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:36,480 The roots, as they sometimes say, 179 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,440 {\an8}I think my beginning was Elkhorn School. 180 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:42,360 {\an8}At that time, I had to walk 181 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,919 about five miles a day to school. 182 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,960 {\an8}- Four months' school did not provide much education 183 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:49,639 {\an8}on the plantation. 184 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,960 He said, "Them big boys ought to be in the field, 185 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:53,919 "not in school." 186 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,919 {\an8}- Well I was six years old when I started school, 187 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,600 {\an8}but, uh, B.B. started when we was about eight. 188 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,039 From the first grade through the eighth, 189 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,799 we was all in one room. 190 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:08,159 - It was fun going to Elkhorn School because 191 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,879 I didn't know anything else. 192 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,879 I'd never been to any other school to know about it. 193 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,879 - Oh, he was real smart, and, uh, 194 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,320 he wasn't too smart in his books, 195 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:20,360 but he was smart in other things. 196 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,879 He was real strong with his hands. 197 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,720 We used to play games out there. 198 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:28,399 A game we would say, "Let Buddy, let Buddy out." 199 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,759 So we all would, uh, make a circle. 200 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,399 Everybody would hold one another's hands, 201 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,519 and the one in the middle would try to break out. 202 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,919 So I'd always make it my business to hold B.B.'s hand 203 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,279 'cause he could really hold your hand tight. 204 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,559 - Usually, I try to be positive in my thinking. 205 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,200 {\an8}And I owe that to Professor Luther H. Henson. 206 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,039 {\an8}He told me things then that I can still hear him 207 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,679 {\an8}telling me today. 208 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:56,440 "Don't smoke. 209 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:58,519 "Don't drink! 210 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,519 "You got one house, your body. 211 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,360 "Your body is one house. 212 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,720 "You're supposed to take care of that one 213 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:07,200 "'cause you're not gonna get another one." 214 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:11,120 - I think he did it because he saw the need 215 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,360 {\an8}of the Black children needed to be taught 216 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,519 {\an8}how to better themselves and make a better living. 217 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,440 {\an8}And it could be done if they would come to school 218 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:24,000 and get a better education. 219 00:13:27,639 --> 00:13:29,679 - I'll always love him. 220 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,799 I was a regular hand from the time I was seven years old. 221 00:13:34,879 --> 00:13:37,360 See, they used to didn't have no child labor laws 222 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,320 and all that, so I was doing farm work 223 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:42,840 just like the adults was, when I was seven. 224 00:13:42,919 --> 00:13:46,440 I started about what we call from "can to can't." 225 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:51,000 "Can" means when you can see, "can't" when you cannot see. 226 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,960 And I think about it, when I was traveling 227 00:13:55,039 --> 00:13:57,519 with the mule, following the mule plowing, 228 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,080 doing all that, you're walking about 229 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:03,519 30 miles a day and you do that six days a week. 230 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,519 So you figure it out. 231 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,519 And you do that six days a week. 232 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,120 You do it for six months out of the year. 233 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,039 So multiply that by 18 years. 234 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,200 I've walked around the world. 235 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:21,440 * Ooh Lordy, my troubles so hard 236 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:25,799 * Ooh Lordy, my troubles so hard * 237 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:29,519 - Out of that condition, the blues were born. 238 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Usually one guy would be plowing by himself. 239 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:38,440 Or maybe one guy would, um, 240 00:14:38,519 --> 00:14:43,120 take his hoe and chop way out in front of everybody else. 241 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,879 And usually you would hear this guy sing. 242 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,519 (guitar strumming) 243 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,919 (singing) Oh, wake up in the morning 244 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,919 - That's the only time you'd get a chance 245 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,240 to sing the blues is out in the field, 246 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,919 {\an8}because your parents didn't allow that in the house. 247 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,639 {\an8}Nothing but spirituals. 248 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,320 {\an8}So if you picking cotton you can sing 249 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:07,240 whatever you want to sing, you know? 250 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,440 {\an8}- To play that music and not invoke 251 00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:13,120 {\an8}the name of Jesus, or God, I guess, 252 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,759 {\an8}then who are you invoking? 253 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,440 The devil. 254 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:22,399 {\an8}- People who are religious did not take kindly to people 255 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,399 {\an8}playing the blues, which they thought was not... 256 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,360 Well, like you say, it was the devil's music. 257 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,919 {\an8}- I don't know about all of that, but that's what 258 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,759 {\an8}they would call it. 259 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,320 {\an8}They said, "Sellin' yourself to the devil." 260 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:39,840 - A lot of people in the church, they go through this thing 261 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:42,480 {\an8}that it's the Devil's music, but... 262 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,679 {\an8}The way he plays and the way he sings, 263 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:48,440 that is a gift from God. 264 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:52,080 And if you are at all religious, you will believe 265 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:55,080 that he has that gift, and that he was touched when, 266 00:15:55,159 --> 00:15:57,759 when he was, you know, in the womb. 267 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,279 (gospel-style singing) 268 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:07,720 * Somebody calling my name * 269 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:10,879 - You were John, Jim, Jones, 270 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,639 and nobody all the week long, 271 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,120 but Sunday morning you became Brother John, Sister Mary, 272 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,720 and Mr. Jim because you were somebody Sunday morning. 273 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:24,879 Well, if it had not been for that, 274 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,320 we would have gone out like a light. 275 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:31,519 - My mother was very religious, very, very religious. 276 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,679 She made me go to church, whether I wanted to or not. 277 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,720 - When he joined the church, well, Archie was a preacher. 278 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:40,399 My brother-in-law was a preacher. 279 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,120 He preached his church out. 280 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,919 {\an8}- Reverend Archie Fair was our pastor, 281 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,799 {\an8}and the first person I ever heard play electric guitar. 282 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:48,679 {\an8}That's why I wanted to be like him. 283 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:52,159 - In the church, this boy would get a chance 284 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,000 to play on Archie's guitar a little. 285 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,799 - He was a preacher and a teacher. 286 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,440 And I think that he didn't necessarily just 287 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:07,200 meant for it to be me, but all of his students. 288 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:11,559 And I liked him, worshiped him. 289 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,400 And I think that's how he helped me a whole lot. 290 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,319 - Well, when his grandmother moved over there, 291 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,680 William decided that he wanted him to stay 292 00:17:20,759 --> 00:17:22,319 with his grandmother, 293 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,440 so he put him down there with her. 294 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:26,799 {\an8}- And she would work for my mother and them. 295 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,920 {\an8}She would cook, and she'd clean house, 296 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,640 {\an8}just anything she needed to do, you know. 297 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,799 And, uh, they probably worked in the fields, too. 298 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,400 When my grandmother died, I still stayed 299 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,640 in the little house that my grandmother and I 300 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,759 had lived in before she died. 301 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:50,200 * Yes, it had to happen 302 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:52,079 * I'm not surprised * 303 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,160 And I remember she owed something like $35, $40, 304 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,519 or something, but we didn't make much money. 305 00:17:57,599 --> 00:17:59,599 I was making $15 a month, so... 306 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,240 But I paid my grandmother's bill. 307 00:18:02,319 --> 00:18:04,240 I paid it off myself. 308 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:07,960 - It's safe to say that he was traumatized 309 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:10,200 and probably quite stunned. 310 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:13,279 {\an8}After all, he didn't know where his father was. 311 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,720 {\an8}His mother'd been dead some years. 312 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:16,480 {\an8}His grandmother just died. 313 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:19,119 {\an8}And he lived alone, at age 14. 314 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,960 - I felt deserted. 315 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:23,880 Nobody but me. 316 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,200 * How I'll survive * 317 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,920 After my daddy got me and brought me to 318 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,799 Lexington, Mississippi, and I started 319 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,559 to going to school there, which was the first 320 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,759 big school I'd ever gone to. 321 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:44,559 - Well, he see he had some half-sisters and brothers, 322 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,319 and he said that they couldn't get along too good. 323 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,920 That's what he told us. 324 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,519 - He had three girls and a boy, 325 00:18:51,599 --> 00:18:55,640 and those was my sisters and brother, and which I loved, 326 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,519 but I wasn't as close to them as I think I would have been 327 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:02,559 had I been raised with them in the beginning. 328 00:19:04,079 --> 00:19:05,920 My dad never told me he loved me, 329 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,160 never did. 330 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,240 But I knew when he did. 331 00:19:09,319 --> 00:19:11,920 When he showed love to me, he called me "Jack." 332 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,519 Now, why in the heck did he call me Jack? 333 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:18,720 But anytime he was very pleased or had that feeling, 334 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:21,519 he'd call me Jack out of the clear blue sky. 335 00:19:21,599 --> 00:19:23,440 "Jack, what do you think about this?" 336 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:24,920 Or, "What do you think about that?" 337 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,319 And I'd feel so good 'til I'd almost cry, 338 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,119 'cause I knew what that meant. 339 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,559 But he never, ever, ever, ever, that I know, 340 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,759 called or said, "Son, I love you, I love you." 341 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:40,200 But I tell my kids, great-grandkids and grandkids, 342 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:44,440 tell them all when I go home, "I love you." 343 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:48,599 (laid-back instrumental music) 344 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,039 - In those days, it was oppression, 345 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,319 and you'd be depressed by the oppression 346 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,440 because you had no rights. 347 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:01,039 Black folk had no rights. 348 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,079 You were not Black then, you were Negroes or niggers. 349 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:07,559 - Ku Klux Klan was thought of, I believe, 350 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,079 in that area at the time. 351 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,839 I never did come face to face with them, 352 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,799 but I knew a lot of people did. 353 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:19,920 For you that don't know it, this citizen council, 354 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,799 white citizen council, began in 355 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Indianola, Mississippi, my home. 356 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,519 - Our place was to work hard 357 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:32,599 and obey the white man. 358 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,640 - One of my first days of really experiencing what 359 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,319 segregation was really like, 360 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,480 a mob had killed a boy, they'd hung him. 361 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:44,200 It had to do with a white lady. 362 00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:47,640 They had castrated him and drug him behind the car 363 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,759 to the courthouse in Lexington, Mississippi, 364 00:20:50,839 --> 00:20:52,279 Lexington. 365 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,000 And I saw it. 366 00:20:54,079 --> 00:20:56,559 And that's something I've never forgotten. 367 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,480 I guess it's something like people seeing people 368 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:00,599 killed in the war, you don't forget it. 369 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,079 - You were just a thing. 370 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Not a human being, just a work thing. 371 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:08,960 It had a slogan: 372 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:11,720 "If a mule die, buy another one." 373 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:13,640 - "Kill a nigger, hire another one." 374 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,799 And that's the way I was brought up. 375 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,960 - And it meant you were nobody. 376 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:20,039 You just about equal to a mule. 377 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,519 You could not say "yes" or "no" to a white man. 378 00:21:24,599 --> 00:21:26,799 It was "Mister." 379 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,880 And you just didn't argue with them. 380 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,519 And whatever they paid you, 381 00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:33,720 you accepted that and went along. 382 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:36,519 There was no such thing as Social Security, 383 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:38,519 no such thing as retirement. 384 00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:40,920 You had no insurance, only insurance folks had 385 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,680 was burial insurance when you die, 386 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:46,720 otherwise, they would put you in a box. 387 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:48,720 They had a box, they'd make a box, 388 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:50,400 put you in and bury you. 389 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,799 Well, I was there, I know! 390 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,079 It was badder than bad. 391 00:21:57,079 --> 00:22:00,559 - I've always been aware that I was Black in a white world, 392 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,920 but I also had the feeling that 393 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,839 somehow I would overcome that. 394 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,119 And I think that is one of the things 395 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,039 that always drove B.B., 396 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,680 that somehow he had to overcome that. 397 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:17,519 We all were a subject of racism, 398 00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:19,559 {\an8}and bigotry, and hatred, and denial. 399 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,480 {\an8}None of us could get a drink of water 400 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:23,160 {\an8}at a public water fountain. 401 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,079 None of, B.B. and none of the rest of us, 402 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,279 could go and sit in a restaurant and have a decent meal. 403 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,039 None of us could stay at, B.B., nor I, no other Negro 404 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,519 could go in the hotel and get a room. 405 00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:37,480 So yes, he faced the same thing that all of us faced. 406 00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:40,200 That was racism, bigotry, and hatred. 407 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:42,759 But let me add this, though. 408 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:44,319 Let me say this to you about B.B. 409 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,440 He never let that turn him against white people. 410 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,119 - [Morgan] Young Riley King started dreaming of life 411 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,240 back in the Delta. 412 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:54,200 The Delta was home. 413 00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:58,880 So late in 1941, 16-year-old Riley jumped on his bicycle 414 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,640 and began to pedal his way home, 415 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,400 back to where his heart belonged. 416 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,119 - Well he rode a bicycle from his daddy's home in Lexington, 417 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,319 and, uh, it's about 50 miles is how far it is. 418 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,559 {\an8}(laughing) 419 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,720 {\an8}- He was raggedy when he came to my house from Lexington. 420 00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:20,079 {\an8}He didn't have no clothes and things. 421 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,519 - I finally made it into Kilmichael, 422 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:27,160 and believe it or not, the axle on my 423 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,079 bicycle had worn out, so it broke. 424 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,440 - So me and John were sitting on the porch one evening, 425 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:34,759 and here he come riding on his bike, 426 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:36,480 and I said, "Who is that?" 427 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,160 And he said, "I don't know." 428 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,680 And he got up a little closer, I said "Oh, that's Riley." 429 00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:42,160 But see, all his other people had left here. 430 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,599 - But there was a few people, like the Fairs, 431 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,519 Mr. John Fair and his beautiful wife, 432 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:49,119 Miss Leslie Fair. 433 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,480 - John told him, said, "Now, when y'all 434 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:51,960 get through riding around and all, 435 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:53,640 when you get ready to go to bed," 436 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,000 said, "just come on back here at the house." 437 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,240 - John brought him to my father and uh, 438 00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:01,000 to give him a place to stay. 439 00:24:01,079 --> 00:24:03,519 So he fixed that little cabin up for him. 440 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:04,720 And he didn't have any clothes. 441 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:06,720 All he had was just the, um, 442 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:08,759 clothes on his back, and that bicycle. 443 00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:10,079 - I had a good boss. 444 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,640 Mr. Cartledge was one of those people 445 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,039 that I wish the world had a lot more of 'em. 446 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,119 He seemed to be one of them people that was 447 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,160 a fair man. 448 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,559 During those days, in the 30s, a lot of times 449 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,720 we didn't think a lot of white people was fair. 450 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,920 We thought a lot of the white people at that time, 451 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,319 thought only of themselves. 452 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,279 But he wasn't one of those people. 453 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,960 - B.B. was talented, he could do a good job. 454 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:41,920 He could cut wood. 455 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,519 He could plow. 456 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:45,200 He could do best anything, pick cotton, 457 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:46,759 excellent cotton picker. 458 00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:49,759 - The house stood about here, 459 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:52,359 where B.B. lived when he lived with 460 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,720 {\an8}Flake and Zelma Cartledge and their son, Wayne. 461 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,039 {\an8}- I do remember that he, uh, 462 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,279 he had always wanted to play a guitar. 463 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,240 And a fellow, the name of Denzel Tibble, 464 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,599 had a guitar he wanted to sell for $15. 465 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,680 And I, 466 00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:09,799 my father went down there and paid for it for him 467 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,039 and B.B. paid my father back, you see. 468 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,599 {\an8}- You may not know that Wayne wanted his daddy 469 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,119 {\an8}to buy the guitar for him and he wouldn't do it. 470 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,079 And B.B. was the one that ended up with the guitar. 471 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,319 - And I'm still mad about I didn't get a guitar. 472 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,960 (upbeat old-timey band music) 473 00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:31,119 (old-timey jazz music) 474 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,440 - When I first came to the Barrett Plantation, 475 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:37,400 I'd heard a lot about the plantation 476 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,759 and heard a lot from a lot of the, 477 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:43,200 the tenants that lived on the plantation 478 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:45,799 about what a nice man he was to work for. 479 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,359 - B.B. used to be my tractor driver. 480 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,119 He drove tractor for Mr. Barrett, B.B. did. 481 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,319 - There was many big plantations, 482 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,079 and they would have somebody they call a rider. 483 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,519 Usually it was a white person on a horse. 484 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:03,319 This white person usually carried a gun, 485 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,039 in a lot of cases. 486 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,279 A lot of cases, he carried a whip. 487 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,559 Mr. Barrett was very, I don't know, 488 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,319 very thoughtful, I would say. 489 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,680 {\an8}So what he did, he hired a Black overseer 490 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:21,359 {\an8}named Mr. Baggett, Booker Baggett, 491 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,480 and we worked like crazy because we wanted to keep him. 492 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,039 And Mr. Baggett is the one that taught me to drive tractor. 493 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,200 If there's any such thing as a superstar in tractors, 494 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:35,119 I thought I was. 495 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,599 Of course, I thought I was pretty cute too, at the time. 496 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,079 I'd wake up, and I'm due at the tractor barn 497 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000 in about half an hour. 498 00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:47,680 And I lived about a mile from the tractor barn. 499 00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:51,000 So when I'd wake up, having about 30, 500 00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:53,119 40 minutes to get to the tractor barn, 501 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,200 I'd put on my clothes and was at the tractor barn 502 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,680 by the time everybody else was ready to fill up. 503 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,279 {\an8}- (singing) Precious Lord, take my hand 504 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,720 {\an8}Lead me on, let me stand. 505 00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:08,359 - My early years, I sang gospel songs 506 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,079 with various quartets, and usually I was 507 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,240 the lead singer all the time. 508 00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,119 And we did very well. 509 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,480 There was a group called: 510 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,319 - The Famous St. John Gospel Singers. 511 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,279 - Famous St. John Gospel Singers. 512 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,119 - The St. John Gospel Singers were an upbeat. 513 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,920 Brother John was the, uh, president of the group. 514 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,519 Another brother, Orwell, the baby brother 515 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:34,359 was singing with them. 516 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,720 Birkett Davis, who was the cousin who was singing with them. 517 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:41,400 And Riley was the guitar player, and that set them apart. 518 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,480 Plus the fact that he had a very good voice. 519 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,119 They had some good voices in the quartet. 520 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,680 - Had a good time listening at it. 521 00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:50,359 I get home, I know what to do. 522 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,920 Turn the radio on, sit there and wait on them to come on. 523 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,759 Sure did. 524 00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,119 - Then is the time that I decided I wanted to get married. 525 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,119 And I got married to a young lady. 526 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,720 - To Martha King. 527 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:05,119 In that year, we lived in the house together. 528 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,400 We lived in a three-room, shotgun house. 529 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,599 Two doors, one in front and one in back. 530 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,680 - But Martha and B.B. married, 531 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:15,319 they never did have no children. 532 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,920 He was singing gospel songs then. 533 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,319 He didn't stay at home much with her. 534 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,680 He didn't stay at home, but he was running around 535 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:23,119 singing a whole lot. 536 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,279 - On weekends, then B.B. would just decide 537 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,759 he would go to town and play. 538 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,279 And people'd give him a great offering in town. 539 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,640 - Saturdays was my day. 540 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,519 Go to town on Saturdays and have a good time. 541 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:40,920 * Yeah, if you ever been down to New Orleans 542 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,759 * Then you can understand just what I mean 543 00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:45,279 * Now, all through the week * 544 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:47,519 - [Annie] Some walked to town. 545 00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,480 Some would catch a ride. 546 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:51,279 One person might have a car. 547 00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:54,319 And people used to come to town then in wagons. 548 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,160 - [David] Everybody threw their cares to the wind. 549 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,200 Church Street was Black folks' street. 550 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:02,319 * It was rockin' 551 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,839 * It was rockin' * 552 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,920 People were in and out, gambling and doing what little 553 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,839 dancing they were doing. 554 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,000 If you didn't get on Church Street, 555 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:14,200 you wouldn't be in Indianola. 556 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,319 - And they would get after him about it. 557 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,160 Say, "Hey, you can't sing in St. John Gospel Singers 558 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,079 and sing the blues on the corner Saturday nights." 559 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,680 (laughing) 560 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:25,319 - He had one corner he would play on 561 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,319 early during Saturday afternoon, and would put his hat out 562 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,519 and people would throw coins in it. 563 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:32,319 Later on during that Saturday evening 564 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,160 when he would move further down Church Street, 565 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,279 where the real roughnecks were and the people 566 00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:39,480 who had a real appreciation for the blues 567 00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:41,000 and didn't mind people knowing it, 568 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,480 they threw just a little more coins in the hat 569 00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:45,680 {\an8}than the earlier crowd, which 570 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:47,920 {\an8}probably were the church-going people. 571 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,880 {\an8}- Now, he used to play on what they called, you know, 572 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,319 {\an8}"juke houses," porches, all the way down Church Street. 573 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,000 {\an8}That's what used to be, I reckon you would call, 574 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,880 wouldn't call them night clubs, but juke joints would be 575 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,559 that time of year then. 576 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,680 (lively band music) 577 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,119 - Indianola, Mississippi on a Saturday night 578 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,400 on Church Street... 579 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,079 You would remember it forever (laughs). 580 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,920 I came in, in a hurry, on my way to go 581 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,839 to a church to sing that night. 582 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,920 I'd been plowing, plowing, plowing. 583 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,279 And then it happened. 584 00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,119 We got off that evening. 585 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,319 I cut this ignition off of the tractor. 586 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,319 And I jumped down and start running to get ready 587 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,480 to go out, and it started up again. 588 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,119 And when the tractor started up again, 589 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,039 it went forward. 590 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:45,759 And all of this broke off. 591 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:47,960 Scared me half to death. 592 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:51,119 I never did stop running, and that's the first time 593 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,039 I went to Memphis. 594 00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:57,240 * And now I'm walking 595 00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,359 * walking and crying 596 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,279 * You don't love me no more 597 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,920 *Well, I did it all for you 598 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,640 * Did all I could 599 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,799 * All I did, darling * 600 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,720 Memphis was the city, 601 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:22,640 I would say it was like heaven. 602 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,160 (laughing) 603 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,519 All them guitars, and guys could play them? 604 00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:30,000 Oh, what a feeling it was. 605 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,759 - Beale Street had many musicians that was interested in 606 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,440 trying to help you if you wanted to learn. 607 00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:40,079 And they had musicians 608 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,920 that would just meet up on Beale Street, 609 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,640 like, on the weekends, and trade ideas. 610 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,759 - I came to Memphis and started hearing 611 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,000 all those other guys play. 612 00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:55,519 I found out I wasn't nothing, not much. 613 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:58,440 I'm still like that today. 614 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,079 {\an8}* And there's two little women, 615 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,839 * boys, I ain't never seen 616 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,000 * Pretty two little pretty women, 617 00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:14,039 * they's from New Orleans 618 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:16,920 - [Morgan] Once in Memphis, B.B. King sought 619 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,680 and found his cousin, 620 00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,319 the great bluesman Bukka White. 621 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,079 - Bukka was born up around West Point, Mississippi. 622 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,240 And a lot of people say he taught me to play, 623 00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:29,960 but that's not true. 624 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:34,200 But he did teach me quite a bit about being a blues player. 625 00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:37,519 Bukka White used to tell me that to be a blues singer, 626 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,720 you should always dress like you was trying to go 627 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,839 to the bank to borrow money, which mean you dress, 628 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,519 well, a word musicians use, kind of "sharp," you know. 629 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,640 Even if you was casual, you look clean, 630 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,279 not like you slept under the Mississippi Bridge 631 00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:54,920 last night. 632 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,640 But this is the kind of guitar that he played. 633 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,920 And he used to play with a slide on his finger. 634 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,160 And I could never get that. 635 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,720 Well, I've got stupid fingers, they just wouldn't work. 636 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,039 So in order to get somewhat 637 00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,720 the type sound that he had, 638 00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:13,720 I would trill my hand. 639 00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,880 (guitar twangs) Like that. 640 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,319 And I think over the years I've done pretty good with it. 641 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,359 (guitar twangs) Still don't have it right. 642 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,599 {\an8}- I asked B.B., one time, how he got his 643 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,000 {\an8}guitar to sound that way and he said, 644 00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:28,000 {\an8}"I was trying to make it sound like a steel." 645 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,319 So who would have thought? 646 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,319 (lively band music) 647 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,519 - [B.B.] Beale Street Amateurs. 648 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:41,319 I hosted the show for 11 consecutive years. 649 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:46,480 {\an8}- At first, you used to have a $5, $3, and $2 prize. 650 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,319 {\an8}But then it got so that it was just everybody 651 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,359 {\an8}that came on stage got a dollar. 652 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,960 - Get on the Amateur Show and you could win $5, 653 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,519 if you had the best song, or the best voice, or whatever. 654 00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:03,400 - Now, I remember going on that show many times. 655 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,759 And thank God for Rufus Thomas, because (laughs) 656 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,519 Rufus Thomas was the emcee. 657 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:11,480 I guess I looked so bad, and so pitiful, 658 00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:13,760 and was so broke (laughs), 659 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,360 Rufus Thomas, when he would see me, he'd say, 660 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,239 "You know you was on last week." 661 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,639 I'd say, "Yeah." 662 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,199 "Well, why you back this week?" 663 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,320 "I need to go on again 'cause I need that dollar." 664 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,760 - That dollar that he got, with the bus fare being a nickel, 665 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,199 it could last him just about a whole week. 666 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,159 - A lot of times he would put me back on again, 667 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,920 and he did that many times. 668 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,280 So, Rufus, thank you. 669 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,679 I stayed up there for about six or eight months. 670 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,480 And then I called some of my family back and I said, 671 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,159 "Tell Mr. Barrett I'm sorry, 672 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,800 "and I would like to work and pay it off." 673 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,880 - So he got back in with Mr. Johnson Barrett 674 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,440 and came back and worked by the day driving tractors. 675 00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,400 - Mr. Barrett said, "It's okay. 676 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,440 "I'm not angry with you, come on in." 677 00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:08,719 Well, with wobbly legs, I came back. 678 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,920 And I think it cost, like, $500 or $600, 679 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,440 and I paid it off. 680 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:15,519 And the next time I left to go to Memphis 681 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,039 and start my career, I started it correctly. 682 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:24,719 * Whoa, Lord, what a beautiful city 683 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,119 * Oh, what a beautiful city, God knows 684 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:32,719 When we left Mississippi going to Memphis, 685 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,639 we expected many, many things to happen, 686 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,239 and it did. 687 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,440 The late Sonny Boy, the second Sonny Boy Williamson, 688 00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:42,199 well, he was on the radio in West Memphis, Arkansas. 689 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,159 I decided I wanted to go and see him one day. 690 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,079 And one day I did. 691 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:48,320 And when I went over to see him, 692 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,960 I begged him to let me sing a song. 693 00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:52,840 So he made me audition and I did, 694 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,119 and he liked it, and he put me on his show that day. 695 00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,599 And that night, he had two jobs to play. 696 00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:01,559 One of them he didn't want because 697 00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,199 it didn't pay much money. 698 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,400 So he called the lady, and he asked the lady 699 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,840 that he was supposed to play for 700 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,960 did she hear the program? 701 00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:09,199 And she said, "Yes." 702 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,280 So he called her and he said, 703 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,519 "Miss Annie, did you hear the boy?" 704 00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:13,960 And she said, "Yeah." 705 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:15,400 He said, "Well, I'm gon' send him down 706 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,280 to work for me tonight." 707 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,639 So I went over there, man, and they paid me $12, 708 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,280 12 American dollars. 709 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,920 That's a lot of bread, you know, 710 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,119 for a guy that'd been making, you know, 711 00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:29,239 like, 35 cent a hundred picking cotton, you know? 712 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,000 She said, "If you can get a job on the radio, 713 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:36,239 like Sonny Boy has, I'll give you this job, 714 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,000 and you can play six nights a week." 715 00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:41,159 And I thought about that, and said, 716 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,679 "God, I hope I can get me a job on the radio." 717 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,000 Well I'm just a blues singer, 718 00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:54,320 tractor driver, truck driver. 719 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,000 I was a disc jockey for a while. 720 00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,440 Why I sing the blues is because I lived it. 721 00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:01,719 You probably wonder, "That guy, 722 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,519 "the way you talk, you're a disc jockey?" 723 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:07,119 Trust me, I was, for about five years. 724 00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,920 The only way to do it is say it loud and clear. 725 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,639 Make sure that everyone will hear. 726 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,599 It's the truth the way it is. 727 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:15,719 And I enjoyed it so much that the call letters 728 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,119 of the radio station 729 00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,000 I can remember today like it was yesterday. 730 00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:21,360 This is B.B. King making a statement 731 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,159 and a natural fact. 732 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,719 WDIA. 733 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,880 Everybody wanna know why I sing the blues. 734 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,320 The first all-Black operated station in the mid-South. 735 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960 In fact, I think in the nation. 736 00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,639 (radio dial tuning) 737 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,119 - Greetings and salutations! 738 00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:43,159 Ooh-boopy-doo, and how do you do? 739 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,119 It's a good, good morning to you on an all-blues Saturday, 740 00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:52,239 here on WDIA with your Rufus Thomas. 741 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,320 - This new radio station was being opened in Memphis. 742 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,920 So when the red light went off the air, 743 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,079 I went to the window and I knocked. 744 00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:02,320 (knocking) 745 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,679 So he came to the door and said, 746 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,360 "What can I do for you, young fella?" 747 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,920 And I said, "Well, I wanna make a record, 748 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,559 "and I want to go on the radio." 749 00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:11,119 And he laughed. 750 00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:13,559 Mr. Ferguson said, "Well, we don't make records." 751 00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:18,119 And then he had this deep look, thought look in his face. 752 00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:20,519 And then he said to Mr. William, he said, 753 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,760 "You know, we got this new product." 754 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,280 Said, "Maybe he would he would be good 755 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,079 "for this new product." 756 00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,599 So he went and got me a bottle. 757 00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:31,119 And he held it up like this. 758 00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:34,039 He said, "This is Pep-ti-kon. 759 00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,400 "Do you think you could write a jingle for it?" 760 00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:39,840 I started to thinking about it. 761 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,000 I say, "Yes, sir, I can write a jingle." 762 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:43,719 So it went like this: 763 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,920 (clapping) 764 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,559 (singing) Pep-ti-kon sure is good 765 00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:48,920 Pep-ti-kon sure is good 766 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,800 Pep-ti-kon sure is good, you can get it anywhere 767 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,920 in your neighborhood. 768 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,400 He said, "You're hired." 769 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,920 (laughing) 770 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,519 (electric guitar solo) 771 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:03,760 - [Voiceover] "Blues Boy" King. 772 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,360 Blues Boy, who, did your dad name you that? 773 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,719 - No, I used to be a disc jockey in Memphis. 774 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,039 And, uh, they called me "The Boy from Beale Street, 775 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,360 "the Blues Boy." 776 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,360 So people, instead of saying "Blues Boy," 777 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,519 they just started using the word "B.B.," 778 00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:18,320 which meant "Blues Boy". 779 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,920 And my real name is Riley B. King. 780 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,039 Now most times if someone would come up and say, 781 00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:26,440 "Hi, Riley", I would wonder who they're talking about. 782 00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,440 If I was gonna think about hiring a musician, 783 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,400 I usually think of it in terms of this: 784 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,920 About 75% man first, you know, gentleman, 785 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,320 and 25% musician, because I feel that in time 786 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,679 if you get to be 50/50, then this is good. 787 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,280 But if you're just a good guy, 788 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,960 I can tolerate the other part. 789 00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:51,280 {\an8}- I taught him the best I could. 790 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,239 {\an8}A lot of times he didn't understand 791 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,119 {\an8}what I was telling him. 792 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,440 But when I put him with a group, 793 00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,519 that put pressure on him and he had to learn. 794 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,039 You can't work with nobody without you knowing. 795 00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:09,159 You see where the bass player is right now? 796 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,480 When you see B.B. playing, 797 00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:12,320 the bass player is right behind him. 798 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,719 That's what he listens to. 799 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,679 Now he know. 800 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,639 - In fact, it's like I've usually told the band 801 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,400 like I have today, "You know a lot more than I do. 802 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,119 "And you play better than I do. 803 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:27,960 "But I'm the bandleader." 804 00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,119 - B.B. was just learning how to play. 805 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,119 But he always could sing, 806 00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:34,039 and he finally learned how to play. 807 00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,760 (record loading) 808 00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:45,000 (B.B. King guitar music) 809 00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:48,440 - [Morgan] Having learned from those around him, 810 00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:51,320 the young and confident Riley King was ready 811 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,840 to cut his first sides. 812 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,840 - B.B. King first recorded for Bullet Records 813 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,719 in Nashville, Tennessee. 814 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,639 Jim Bullet owned the company. 815 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,679 I think he had four sides he did. 816 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,760 {\an8}- He did a thing for his first wife, Martha King. 817 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,480 {\an8}In fact, the song was recorded "Martha King." 818 00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:10,280 - I thought I was really making it, 819 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,320 at that time, as a musician 'cause I was recording! 820 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,800 * I ain't afraid to call her name * 821 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,880 {\an8}- We operated jukeboxes in Los Angeles 822 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,119 on Central Avenue, primarily, which was 823 00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:29,920 the Black area of Los Angeles. 824 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,599 We were really short of blues records, 825 00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:36,000 so that's when we started, got the idea that we'll just 826 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,320 have to make something for our jukeboxes. 827 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,079 - I made a few recordings with him, I was on piano, 828 00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:44,400 at the old Sun Studio with Sam Phillips. 829 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,480 - Sam Phillips had a contract with us. 830 00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:50,480 I'm talking about "us," Modern Records, 831 00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:53,119 where we would get first choice of anything he recorded. 832 00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:55,519 He'd send us out a dub of it, 833 00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,599 and if we wanted it, we'd pay him for it. 834 00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:01,039 When Chess Records got "Rocket 88" 835 00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,719 by Ike Turner and Jackie Brenston, 836 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,840 it was not sent to us for, 837 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,239 even though we had first refusal. 838 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,519 That's when we severed our contract with Sam Phillips, 839 00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:15,000 and I decided to come in and record B.B. 840 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,920 (guitar solo music) 841 00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:35,519 * Now here it is three o'clock in the morning' * 842 00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:41,119 - The first session that I did with B.B. in Memphis, 843 00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,960 where "Three O'Clock Blues" was his hit 844 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,760 record that came out of there. 845 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,480 It was just put the musicians together and do it. 846 00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,880 {\an8}- I said, how big was that amplifier you had 847 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,599 {\an8}when you made Three O'Clock in the Morning? 848 00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:56,519 {\an8}He said, "About like that." 849 00:42:56,599 --> 00:43:00,519 And that's when you had that real, natural tone. 850 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:03,280 It wasn't nothing fictitious about it, you know. 851 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,360 That's exactly, what you played 852 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,679 is what the amplifier gave you back. 853 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,679 - We recorded in the Black YMCA in Memphis. 854 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,239 And what I had to do was put furniture blankets 855 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,519 over the windows because the noise from the cars 856 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:24,039 would be a little bit too noisy to record. 857 00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,559 When I got back to California, 858 00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:30,000 I listened to it and I knew we had a hit record then. 859 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:34,639 * Well, my baby can't be found 860 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,039 * Well, if I don't find my baby * 861 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:43,800 - When he recorded "Three O'Clock Blues," 862 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,079 that's when things really began to happen for him. 863 00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:49,320 - He said, "I'd like to have a new guitar," 864 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,239 before we went in the studio. 865 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,760 I said, I'll buy you two of them. 866 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,119 I bought him two guitars. 867 00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,239 That's when he called them Lucille. 868 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,599 And he says, "I'll make you two hit records," which he did. 869 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,719 - I've always wanted to meet Helen. 870 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,320 - Helen? Who's Helen? 871 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,519 - Helen, Helen, your guitar. 872 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:10,920 You know, you, when you start-- 873 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,039 - Oh, you're talking about Lucille. 874 00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,079 This is Lucille, this my baby. 875 00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:15,880 (kissing noises) (audience laughter) 876 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,199 - That's not the guitar I saw you with last night, B.B. 877 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,400 (audience laughter) 878 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,280 - The first one that was named Lucille was 879 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,599 because of a fight in a little night club. 880 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,920 And we'd play there in the winter. 881 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,280 Had something like that big garbage can, 882 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,199 just like that one, just like it, 883 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,519 but a little larger than that. 884 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:43,119 And they would half-fill the can 885 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,199 with kerosene, light that fuel 886 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,360 and that's what we had for heat. 887 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,119 So this particular night, two guys start to fighting, 888 00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:52,480 and one of them knocked the other one 889 00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:54,119 over on this container. 890 00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:56,360 And the fuel, you know, spilled on the floor, 891 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,119 and it was already burning, so as they tried to put it out, 892 00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:01,920 it seemed to burn more. 893 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,559 Everybody in the little club was dancing 894 00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,360 started to run outside, including me. 895 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,000 But when I got on the outside, I remembered that I had 896 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,079 ran off and left my guitar. 897 00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:14,719 So I started back for it, and the fellas 898 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,719 that were working with me said, "No, don't do it," 899 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,320 but I went anyway, and I got my guitar, 900 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,760 but I was almost burned to death trying to save it. 901 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,719 So the next morning, we found that 902 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,480 two men had gotten burned, 903 00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:29,119 got trapped in the building, got burned to death. 904 00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,199 And we also found that these two guys 905 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,039 was fighting about a lady. 906 00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:35,440 The lady's name was Lucille. 907 00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:37,480 I named my guitar Lucille to remind me 908 00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:40,280 not to do a thing like that again, and I haven't. 909 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,199 (laughing) 910 00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,639 * Now, darling 911 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,320 * Know I love you * 912 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,679 - [Morgan] Beale Street entrepreneur Robert Henry 913 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,119 started to look after the interests of B.B. King. 914 00:45:56,199 --> 00:45:58,920 This resulted in a national tour 915 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,280 of the main Black theaters and clubs, 916 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,280 known as "the Chitlin' Circuit." 917 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,639 The road was no place for a marriage. 918 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,599 The road was B.B. King's new home. 919 00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,400 And he told me, he say, "'Cille," I say, "Yes?" 920 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,119 He say, "Martha done left me." 921 00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:19,719 I say, "Girl, why you leave him?" 922 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,400 And she say, "'Cause he won't stay at home. 923 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,119 "He playing and going everywhere." 924 00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:27,800 I said, "Martha, B.B. can't like 925 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,119 "all them womens liking him." 926 00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:31,239 I say, "He playing." 927 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,000 I say, "Girl, you crazy. 928 00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:34,800 "You should stay with your husband." 929 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,800 But she didn't. 930 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,679 {\an8}- This business is a very difficult business. 931 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,119 {\an8}But I couldn't live without it, 932 00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,719 and I don't think he can live without it either. 933 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,800 * Oh, now left me, 934 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,519 * baby, for someone else * 935 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,559 (lively big-band-style music) 936 00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:14,519 - B.B. was appearing with the Bill Harvey Band, 937 00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:18,400 and Bill Harvey's band backed B.B. 938 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,440 - Harvey wrote and arranged 939 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:24,039 for everybody who was anybody. 940 00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:26,440 - Sunbeam introduced B.B. to Bill Harvey, right? 941 00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:30,119 - Well, in a sense, Robert Henry, 942 00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:34,079 because Robert Henry was his day-to-day man on Beale Street. 943 00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:36,800 - When Bill Harvey signed on to B.B., 944 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,880 Bill Harvey, I think, Bill Harvey had about 11. 945 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,960 Yeah, he had an 11-piece. 946 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:46,199 And he stayed with B.B. for 14 years. 947 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,920 - Every record that B.B. put out after Harvey got with him, 948 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,440 the first one was "Woke Up this Morning," 949 00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:53,159 was a hit, hit, hit. 950 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,119 - A little bit later on after I had been touring for a while, 951 00:47:56,199 --> 00:48:00,360 then I turned the disc jockey loose and just toured. 952 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,599 And I'm still doing that. 953 00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:08,920 - At the time when B.B. got his first bus, 954 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,760 there was excitement because coming out of a station wagon 955 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,960 {\an8}into a big Continental Trailways bus 956 00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:18,760 {\an8}was just a marvelous feat for the group. 957 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,360 And it was something that 958 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,159 none of the other groups had either, 959 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,480 'cause he was among the first people with a big bus. 960 00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:32,320 - I'd seen Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Cab Calloway, 961 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,480 Gene Krupa, many others 962 00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:38,079 that had big band, 963 00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:41,400 I was learning from listening to them, from time to time, 964 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,199 getting a chance to hear 'em sometime. 965 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,519 And that made me very proud. 966 00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:49,719 So some of them had buses, and I wanted a bus. 967 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,840 And I bought it. 968 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,800 (bus engine starting) 969 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,320 - This is the original picture of the B.B. King Band 970 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,920 on Beale Street in 1955. 971 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,920 Beale and Hernando, between Hernando and 3rd Street. 972 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,840 - I think everybody knows this band 973 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,079 as the B.B. King Band. 974 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:08,599 This the B.B. King Band. 975 00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:10,599 No matter how many bands he goes through, 976 00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:13,199 this will always be the B.B. King Band. 977 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,400 - We were bad. (laughter) 978 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,079 Yeah, we were good. 979 00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:20,360 Under your seat, you would have 980 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,320 a box of food, 981 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,079 like pork and beans, and sardines and crackers, 982 00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:27,800 and that kind of stuff, because a lot of times, 983 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,559 you wouldn't have time to eat at 984 00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:33,519 a restaurant or cafe, per se, 985 00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:37,840 and it was very difficult, 'cause a lot of the places 986 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,800 you couldn't go in anyway. 987 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:45,800 - And I've seen the Promised Land. 988 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,719 I may not get there with you, but I want you to know tonight 989 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,920 that we as a people will get to the Promised Land. 990 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,599 - Desegregation of America didn't start until the '60s. 991 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,199 {\an8}And B.B. had been on the road 992 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,639 {\an8}for a good 10, 12 years before that. 993 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,840 {\an8}You couldn't live. 994 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,519 It was just a Chitlin' Circuit. 995 00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:11,920 That's what they called it. 996 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,119 Negro baseball played it. 997 00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:16,320 The big Black bands played 998 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,679 the Chitlin' circles all over America. 999 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,519 That's what they called the Black community, 1000 00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:21,880 the Chitlin' Circuit. 1001 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,039 - But y'all didn't think y'all was 1002 00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:24,400 the Chitlin' Circuit, did you? 1003 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,559 - Well, there wasn't nothing bad about it, 1004 00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:28,119 {\an8}that was just the title. 1005 00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:29,719 {\an8}- But I mean, y'all didn't realize 1006 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,000 {\an8}that it was quote unquote, "The Chitlin' Circuit." 1007 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,719 {\an8}- Everybody knew that the Black section of America 1008 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,440 was the Chitlin' Circuit. 1009 00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,000 - [Cato] But Ernest, hold on-- - We didn't refer to it as-- 1010 00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:40,519 - You have to understand-- - [Cato] I'm sayin' they didn't 1011 00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:41,760 refer to it as the Chitlin' Circuit. 1012 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,119 - [Ernest] Yes, they did! 1013 00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,039 If you get any books out of that period, 1014 00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:47,280 you'll know that that period was the Chitlin' Circuit. 1015 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,360 - The musicians accepted the word "Chitlin' Circuit." 1016 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,239 - That's where Negroes played. 1017 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,159 - They accepted that because you were playing Black clubs. 1018 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,079 You were playing Black ballrooms. 1019 00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:00,320 - It wasn't no sign up. 1020 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,159 It was just verbiage. 1021 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,320 - "Chitlin' Circuit"? - [Voiceover] Yeah. 1022 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,920 - (laughing) I don't know what that is. 1023 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,119 - You couldn't go to the best of hotels, 1024 00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:14,880 so you stayed in motels, Black motels, 1025 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,679 and flop houses, or in people's homes. 1026 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,599 The '60s in the marches, I was in Birmingham, Alabama, 1027 00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:25,239 and we stayed at a motel called Gaston's Motel. 1028 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,800 And they was trying to kill Dr. King. 1029 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,320 So, Dr. King was like, I'm in, maybe 7, 1030 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,320 and he's in room, maybe like, 10. 1031 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,199 So they blew up the room between us, 1032 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,920 thinking we was in there. 1033 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,199 They blew up the rooms of the motel. 1034 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,079 I think that's as close a time as I come 1035 00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:50,400 to getting killed, like that. 1036 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,199 {\an8}- You know, you would go through hell with 1037 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,599 {\an8}gasoline drawers on to be able to play the music, you know? 1038 00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:58,760 {\an8}So whatever, whatever it took. 1039 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,960 And they gave him a place to play, 1040 00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:03,760 whether it was segregated or what, you know? 1041 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,239 - We just played everywhere, Apollo Theater 1042 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,880 to the honky-tonk joints, all over the country. 1043 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,559 - He was working. 1044 00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:14,880 That was his whole essence. 1045 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,320 His essence was to work to pay his band. 1046 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,880 - B. was always on the road. 1047 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,199 He's the only I guy, I think, I think he had a record 1048 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,519 that he played 365 days one year. 1049 00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:28,960 And I tell him all the time, "I don't want that record. 1050 00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:30,239 "You can keep that one." 1051 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,559 You know? 1052 00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:34,119 {\an8}- I used to work like, 320 days a year. 1053 00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,320 {\an8}B.B. worked more gigs. 1054 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,679 - I don't know where he gets the energy from. 1055 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,159 I mean, this man works more than anybody, 1056 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,519 because the road is his home. 1057 00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:47,719 (blues music) 1058 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,000 - No night off, 365 days a year. 1059 00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,719 Some days, we didn't even get a chance to go to sleep. 1060 00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:00,880 * I've got a sweet little angel 1061 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,480 * I love the way she spreads her wings * 1062 00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:08,519 - He told me he wasn't gonna ask my mom to get married 1063 00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:10,719 because he felt that she would say no, 1064 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,639 and he didn't want that. 1065 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,719 {\an8}So he said, "We'll just have to wait until you get 18." 1066 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,920 {\an8}So I said, "Okay." 1067 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,559 And that's what we did. 1068 00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:23,360 And he was in Detroit at the time. 1069 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,800 Actually, I was 18 in March, but he wanted to put off 1070 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,519 getting married until June, when we were in Detroit, 1071 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:33,519 because he wanted Reverend Franklin, 1072 00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:37,440 who's Aretha Franklin's father, to marry us. 1073 00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:41,079 So we waited until we got to Detroit, got the license, 1074 00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:43,400 and Reverend Franklin married us. 1075 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,880 - All I know is he'd be a hard man 1076 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,320 to have a relationship with, 1077 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,800 because he's moving so fast. 1078 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,480 {\an8}I mean, the dude sits down when he's playing. 1079 00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,960 {\an8}But he is running through the year. 1080 00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:02,320 - After we got married, we got in a car 1081 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,119 and went to Cleveland, and went to work, 1082 00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:06,360 and just kept going after that. 1083 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,679 Just one day led into another. 1084 00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:16,920 * Yes, all right now * 1085 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,079 In the early days, we'd love to go fishing. 1086 00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:37,920 Any time he had the opportunity, he would go fishing. 1087 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,519 So one day he told me he was going fishing 1088 00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:42,920 and he went out to the car, and I said, 1089 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,800 "You're going fishing in your suit?" 1090 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,039 He says, "That's all I have." 1091 00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:49,400 He says, "I don't have any other clothes, 1092 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,079 so I have to go fishing in a suit." 1093 00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:52,920 And it was a silk suit. 1094 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,960 So, he went fishing in a silk suit. 1095 00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:58,599 And it just shows you whatever he wanted to do 1096 00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:00,480 and however he felt like doing it, 1097 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:02,400 he would do it, no matter what. 1098 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,920 (lively blues music) 1099 00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:14,440 - ABC Paramount offered him, I don't know, it was $25,000, 1100 00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:18,800 and Jules wouldn't renew the contract for $25,000. 1101 00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,280 - I have a friend name Fats Domino. 1102 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,159 Fats Domino was with ABC. 1103 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,039 At that time, it looked like everything he touched 1104 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:32,760 was a hit record, so that's when he told me 1105 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,559 that I was with the wrong people. 1106 00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:39,519 - B.B. would have stayed with us if Jules 1107 00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,639 would have given him the $25,000, upfront. 1108 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,480 (guitar solo music) 1109 00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:57,079 - First, I wanna say, when I try to play, 1110 00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:00,039 I try to play not just for myself. 1111 00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:01,360 I try to play for people. 1112 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,039 I want them to laugh. 1113 00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:04,920 I want them to smile. 1114 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,079 {\an8}- If you want to see what love is, 1115 00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:09,320 {\an8}just go to a B.B. King concert. 1116 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,920 {\an8}And it doesn't make any difference where it's at 1117 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,440 or how big the joint is, 'cause whatever size it is, 1118 00:56:13,519 --> 00:56:15,119 it's gonna be packed. 1119 00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:18,719 {\an8}- The blues becomes a living thing when he's playing it. 1120 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,079 {\an8}It's not just somebody trying to play the blues. 1121 00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:25,039 It becomes a palpable presence on stage. 1122 00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:28,079 (B.B. guitar solo) 1123 00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:36,039 - B.B. King is gone when he's playing. 1124 00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:38,239 B.B. King's been gone in the world of the blues, 1125 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,719 {\an8}just living in that, that ether for so long 1126 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,800 {\an8}that he belongs to it. 1127 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,119 - I looked over, I heard this sound of, like, 1128 00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:53,239 a 747 taking off, which is his voice. 1129 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,800 And I noticed as he stepped back from the microphone, 1130 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,119 his voice got louder, and I, 1131 00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,679 then I realized, as they say in New Orleans, 1132 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,360 this is some other kind of shit. 1133 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,639 This is some other kind of shit (laughs) 1134 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,320 I don't know. 1135 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,000 There's some shamanism involved. 1136 00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:19,400 {\an8}- I think when I was 15, I went and saw B.B. in concert, 1137 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,039 {\an8}and it completely changed my life. 1138 00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:25,840 - It's not about technique at all. 1139 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,519 {\an8}- The first thing that inspired me that, you know, 1140 00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:30,800 {\an8}that I got from B.B. King-- 1141 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,199 - He's concerned with telling a story. 1142 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,679 - Was the direct... 1143 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,519 Speaking to one, you know. 1144 00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:42,639 - He's concerned with moving people. 1145 00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:46,679 And I have, all of my career, 1146 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,920 with my writing and my playing, 1147 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,639 I have tried to maintain my focus on that. 1148 00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:56,119 - B.B. King's tone was the first sound that, 1149 00:57:56,199 --> 00:58:00,519 {\an8}I now call it S-O-C-C. 1150 00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:04,320 {\an8}It means "the Sound of Collective Consciousness." 1151 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,079 (B.B. soloing on guitar) 1152 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,960 - That's what music is, you're taking your life 1153 00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:18,639 {\an8}and the hardest moments or the highest moments, 1154 00:58:18,719 --> 00:58:21,199 {\an8}and you're putting it to words and melody, 1155 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,519 {\an8}and you're making people feel it. 1156 00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:24,760 That's what you're supposed to be doing. 1157 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,360 It's not paint by numbers. 1158 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,360 - You can write a song and bullshit with it, 1159 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,039 but you can't, If you don't sell it, 1160 00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:36,400 what the hell did you cut it for? 1161 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,440 B.B. knew how to sell it. 1162 00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:40,920 He was great at this. 1163 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,480 - [Voiceover] How about a nice, warm round of applause 1164 00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:46,719 to welcome the world's greatest blues singer, 1165 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,599 the king of the blues, B.B. King! 1166 00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:52,480 (applause) (cheering) 1167 00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:54,320 - When B.B. would come to Chicago, 1168 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,119 {\an8}he'd play a lot of different venues. 1169 00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:58,639 {\an8}He'd play clubs, dances and places like that. 1170 00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:01,119 {\an8}And he also played the Regal Theater. 1171 00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:04,519 {\an8}- Jimi Hendrix gave me my first copy of "Live at the Regal." 1172 00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:06,920 {\an8}- For me, that's just like the ultimate live 1173 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,400 {\an8}B.B. King blues album. 1174 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,960 {\an8}- "Live at the Regal" was the first record that I played 1175 00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:18,559 {\an8}every day, probably 20 to 25 times a day. 1176 00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:20,320 I would listen to that every day. 1177 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,559 {\an8}- Recordings like "Live at the Regal" 1178 00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:24,760 {\an8}and "Live at Cook County Jail" are two of my favorite 1179 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,519 live albums of all time. 1180 00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:29,440 I think the fire and the passion in which he was performing 1181 00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,519 on those two recordings is, I think it's hard 1182 00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:34,719 to come close to matching that. 1183 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,119 (B.B. playing guitar) 1184 00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:40,559 {\an8}- And "Live at the Regal" was this pivotal 1185 00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:45,280 {\an8}musical watershed, that took me away from the... 1186 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,440 The British blues temporarily, 1187 00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:51,960 where I had just discovered the American blues 1188 00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:54,119 for the very first time after listening to Clapton 1189 00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:57,599 and Peter Green, and, you know, 1190 00:59:57,679 --> 00:59:59,880 Paul Kossoff and the band Free, 1191 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,880 {\an8}and The Jeff Beck Group, you know, every incarnation 1192 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,920 {\an8}of John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. 1193 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,239 {\an8}- One of the things that B.B. has is a great rapport 1194 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,920 {\an8}with the audience, you know, I mean, 1195 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,400 {\an8}he did that song... 1196 01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:14,639 {\an8}(singing) I bought you a brand new Ford 1197 01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:17,079 And you wanted a Cadillac 1198 01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:20,760 * I bought you a $10 dinner 1199 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,559 * You said thanks for the snack 1200 01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:26,559 - (singing) I let you stay in my penthouse 1201 01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:30,079 And you said it was just a shack 1202 01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:32,920 I gave you seven children 1203 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,119 And now you wanna give 'em back 1204 01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:37,639 * And now you wanna give 'em back 1205 01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:41,320 * Yeah, I've been downhearted, baby 1206 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,760 - You wanna hear B.B. King at the crรจme de la crรจme, 1207 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,119 like Dexter Gordon would say, listen to Live at Regal, 1208 01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:51,320 and every note, every word, every song, 1209 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,000 everything is a perfect, flawless diamond, you know? 1210 01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:59,400 And that's where Peter Green got his tone. 1211 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,320 When you hear Peter Green, he sounds like B.B. King, 1212 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,159 Live at Regal. 1213 01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:08,480 {\an8}- I remember, he had the big, thick notes, so, 1214 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,320 {\an8}(mimics guitar notes) 1215 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,960 {\an8}(mumbles) big, thick notes. 1216 01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:16,000 Not tangy or twangy, he starts off from there 1217 01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:18,760 and goes through the tones of the guitar. 1218 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,840 - All of us in this genre, or all of us in 1219 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,800 any kind of, um, roots music, 1220 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,519 we take what came before us. 1221 01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:31,519 - The people I think that influenced me the most 1222 01:01:33,159 --> 01:01:37,000 was Lowell Fulson, Elmore James. 1223 01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:39,719 I was crazy about Charlie Christian. 1224 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,840 And I also liked... 1225 01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:48,440 One of my favorites, real favorites, was Django Reinhardt. 1226 01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:52,679 (old-timey blues music) 1227 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,840 I was crazy about Blind Lemon and Lonnie Johnson. 1228 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:03,119 Just the sound that they had made me, I don't know, 1229 01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:05,639 tingle inside or somethin' 1230 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,880 - The last two or three generations are all students of B.B. 1231 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,880 Everybody from B.B.'s generation are all students of T-Bone. 1232 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,119 I mean, he really was "the guy." 1233 01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:18,360 - Well just before I went in the Army, about '42, I think, 1234 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,159 I heard of a guy called T-Bone Walker. 1235 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,760 * I'm in love with a woman 1236 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,239 * But she's not in love with me * 1237 01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:33,320 - T-Bone really was a dancer. 1238 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,719 And you know, he had such a beautiful style. 1239 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,800 And even when he played, you know, he danced. 1240 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,719 There's something about that and something 1241 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,400 about the simplicity of the melodies, you know? 1242 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,639 {\an8}He would play over a minor blues or whatnot, 1243 01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:48,960 {\an8}I think, I definitely hear, there's what I call 1244 01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:51,519 {\an8}"the B.B. house," when you're sit, you know, 1245 01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:53,679 playing in a certain key, and then you move up, 1246 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,320 basically, like, four frets or so, 1247 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,480 and there's this little area that I call 1248 01:02:58,559 --> 01:02:59,920 "the B.B. King house." 1249 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,199 And I think some of that I remember hearing 1250 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,360 in T-Bone's playing as well but then, 1251 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,199 B.B. really made it his own. 1252 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,119 - T-Bone Walker I thought was the best ever at doing 1253 01:03:12,199 --> 01:03:14,840 what he did and how he did it. 1254 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,199 I loved him, still do. 1255 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,719 And I imagine today if you listen to my playing, 1256 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,480 you'll hear a little bit of all of them. 1257 01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:24,159 I'm telling my secret. 1258 01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:26,920 But I think a little bit of all of those people I liked 1259 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,239 with my own ideas, I created 1260 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,400 the B.B. King twangy guitar sound, maybe. 1261 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,800 (laid-back blues instrumental) 1262 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,480 - It's tough because usually divorces come because 1263 01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:53,840 of cheating, or you fall out of love, 1264 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,719 or you have money problems. 1265 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,079 And we've had all those things, and we've survived 'em. 1266 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,119 But the love always stayed. 1267 01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:06,719 And you know, it's... 1268 01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:15,320 You just have to do it. 1269 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,519 - If you're gonna be a traveling musician, 1270 01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:21,199 marriage should be a something you wouldn't want to do 1271 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,119 until you're not traveling a lot, 1272 01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:26,199 because it's very few traveling musicians that I know 1273 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,519 that have been able and successful in marriage life. 1274 01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:33,880 - It's very difficult to have a family life with someone 1275 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,239 who's working on the road 365 days a year. 1276 01:04:38,199 --> 01:04:40,239 And, the... 1277 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,199 We did have somewhat of an agreement that 1278 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,119 that he would cut back some 1279 01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:53,320 on his work, but that was very unrealistic 1280 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,559 for me to expect. 1281 01:04:57,559 --> 01:04:59,280 And you get to a point that you realize 1282 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,000 that it's unrealistic. 1283 01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:03,920 'Cause the nice thing is when you are married, 1284 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,480 terrible thing when you're being divorced. 1285 01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:08,320 It's awful. 1286 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,320 - If I had to do it all over again, 1287 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,559 would I, at this stage? 1288 01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:18,519 Yes, I would. 1289 01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:23,400 * Oh, I guess it's the chains that bind me 1290 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:28,159 * I can't shake loose these chains and things 1291 01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:34,599 {\an8}- [Voiceover] He came to me, I didn't come to him. 1292 01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:36,199 {\an8}- [Voiceover] Right. 1293 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,199 {\an8}- [Voiceover] Now he was brought to me because he had 1294 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,920 {\an8}financial problems, big time. 1295 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,400 And he couldn't do anything, you know? 1296 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,679 And he had to understand, and he had to listen 1297 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,440 to the rules, and he did. 1298 01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:51,440 - Sid helped me out, helped me to 1299 01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:53,719 get out of trouble with the government, 1300 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,639 a few other things, so I said, well, look, you're my CPA, 1301 01:05:57,719 --> 01:06:00,840 but you've been doing everything that my manager should do. 1302 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,519 Well, why don't you be my manager? 1303 01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:06,199 In fact, I asked him, he didn't ask me. 1304 01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:10,880 - [Voiceover] I set up a master plan where we would 1305 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,679 be able to expose B.B. out of the Chitlin' Circuit, 1306 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,920 and get over into the crossover area 1307 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,519 so he could make some money. 1308 01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:23,000 He wasn't making any money to speak of, you know? 1309 01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:27,760 {\an8}Sid absolutely was sort of a gateway to B.B.'s career. 1310 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,000 {\an8}And everything after that time period, it was kind of, 1311 01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:34,119 {\an8}sort of, you know, it was already in place. 1312 01:06:34,199 --> 01:06:38,880 (old-timey blues instrumental) 1313 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,079 (upbeat, modern blues instrumental) 1314 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,480 {\an8}- I didn't really become aware of 1315 01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:55,000 {\an8}blues, in general, until... 1316 01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,880 The English guitar players started talking about it. 1317 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,719 - They're serious blues hounds, the English. 1318 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,760 The Rolling Stones and The Beatles, all those guys. 1319 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,599 - You know, growing up, 1320 01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:15,199 {\an8}I loved the blues, in my teenage years. 1321 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,440 {\an8}I mean, Lightnin' Hopkins is my hero, 1322 01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:19,559 so besides everyone else, 1323 01:07:19,639 --> 01:07:22,199 of course, I heard of B.B. King then. 1324 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,639 - [Voiceover] I mean, I'm really very embarrassed about 1325 01:07:24,719 --> 01:07:26,159 my guitar playing in one way 1326 01:07:26,239 --> 01:07:28,239 {\an8}because it's very poor, you know? 1327 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,519 {\an8}I can never move. 1328 01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:31,320 {\an8}But I can make a guitar speak. 1329 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,559 {\an8}See, one part of me says, "Yes, of course I can play 1330 01:07:33,639 --> 01:07:35,559 because I can make a rock move. 1331 01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:37,239 But the other part of me says, "Well, I wish I could 1332 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,599 "just do it like B.B. King." 1333 01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:41,039 If you put me with B.B., I would feel silly. 1334 01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:42,880 - Whatever he was saying, 1335 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,760 he was an incredible guitarist, John. 1336 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,079 Even his attempts at soloing 1337 01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:52,719 were just so wild and aggressive. 1338 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,000 I loved his playing 1339 01:07:55,079 --> 01:07:59,719 But, you know, B.B. is a guitarist. 1340 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,320 You know what I mean, you can, 1341 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,840 you have to admire how that man is and how he plays. 1342 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,719 {\an8}- By the time I'd done most of my homework, 1343 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,519 {\an8}which was during my mid-20s, I was very fortunate to get 1344 01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:16,119 invited to play by John Mayall. 1345 01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:19,920 - I would say that Eric was most influenced 1346 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,520 by Freddie King's playing. 1347 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,319 Mick Taylor was most influenced by Albert King. 1348 01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:31,159 And Peter Green was most definitely a B.B. King devotee. 1349 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:35,079 - When I first met Jimi Hendrix, he talked about B.B. King. 1350 01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:36,800 Said, "Now he comes out and plays just 1351 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,640 "a couple of notes, you know, sort of." 1352 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:39,960 Yeah, I know what you're saying. 1353 01:08:40,039 --> 01:08:43,439 What you could say with a lot of notes, 1354 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,079 you could say with, B.B. King would say 1355 01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:48,039 with a couple of notes, you know? 1356 01:08:48,119 --> 01:08:49,760 (impersonating guitar) 1357 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,560 - The wonderful thing about the three Kings... 1358 01:08:56,119 --> 01:09:00,600 Is we all learned to play from them. 1359 01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:03,640 - The English Invasion, I think that really introduced 1360 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,720 {\an8}a lot of of Americans, including me, to Howlin' Wolf, 1361 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,399 {\an8}and Slim Harpo, and Muddy Waters. 1362 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,359 {\an8}I probably got more exposed to that kind of Chicago blues, 1363 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,760 and B.B. King through that axis of the 1364 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,680 English blues guys and Eric Clapton, those. 1365 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,520 It was a great gift the Brits gave us. 1366 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,840 - When Cream did Strange Brew, I hated the song so much. 1367 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,680 The only thing I could do to give it some stability 1368 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,840 or justify doing it, 1369 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,800 was to quote Albert King in the guitar solo. 1370 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,720 That was the first thing that Jimi remarked on when we met. 1371 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,640 You know, he said, "Oh, you know about that?" 1372 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,760 And I would do the same thing. 1373 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,159 I would dangle carrots in front of the other musicians. 1374 01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:46,720 We did that to one another. 1375 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,239 - So the British blues for me was more immediate 1376 01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:51,319 and it was more exciting, it was louder, 1377 01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:53,720 it tended to be a Les Paul guitar and a Marshall amp. 1378 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,640 It was more rock. 1379 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,800 (rock-style blues music) 1380 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,000 - We do it better. 1381 01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:07,720 That was the thing. 1382 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,840 We do it better. 1383 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,640 But it seemed to have had that elevation, 1384 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,479 that difference when the white boys 1385 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,359 start to singing the blues. 1386 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,359 And they really put it on a different kind of a scale. 1387 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,319 - All the great blues musicians, initially, 1388 01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:27,640 did only play to Black audiences. 1389 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,119 And that's why that when they came over to Europe 1390 01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:32,800 to find that they were revered like gods, 1391 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,439 {\an8}it was like a big surprise to most of them. 1392 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,479 {\an8}- We didn't know how to play for any white audience. 1393 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,119 Every once in a while, I'd have Eric Clapton, 1394 01:10:42,199 --> 01:10:44,039 and I'm laughing right now. 1395 01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:47,920 It was Eric Clapton, Paul Butterfield, 1396 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,520 Michael Bloomfield, when they started showing up 1397 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,520 in clubs in Chicago, we wasn't making enough money 1398 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,039 to buy a bottle of whiskey, so we'd go to next door 1399 01:10:56,119 --> 01:10:58,000 to get the bottle of wine out the liquor store, 1400 01:10:58,079 --> 01:10:59,520 which was cheaper. 1401 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,479 And every time I saw a white face, I said, 1402 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,760 look out, man, there's a cop in the house, you know? 1403 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,000 And that was these kids coming in picking up 1404 01:11:08,079 --> 01:11:11,119 on the type of blues that Muddy and we all was playing. 1405 01:11:11,199 --> 01:11:14,560 {\an8}- When I was 17 at a club in Beaumont called The Raven, 1406 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,520 {\an8}I had a fake ID and got in. 1407 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,560 - We were playin', 1408 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,119 and I saw these four white people come in, 1409 01:11:22,199 --> 01:11:25,439 and one was extra white, Johnny Winter. 1410 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,720 - I kept sending the band members up to ask him 1411 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,880 if it was okay if I played, 1412 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,279 and he didn't even know if I could play at all. 1413 01:11:32,359 --> 01:11:33,960 - Can he play? 1414 01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:35,399 He said, "Yes." 1415 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,239 And he said, "Will you let him play?" 1416 01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:40,600 I said, I don't know, I'll let you know in a little while. 1417 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,479 - We were the only white people in the club. 1418 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,119 And he'd been having tax problems, 1419 01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,000 and he thought we were from the IRS coming 1420 01:11:47,079 --> 01:11:48,840 to bust him for his taxes. 1421 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,920 - So I was so shocked and surprised 1422 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,920 that it wasn't about the IRS, 1423 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,840 'til it took me a little while to kind of get 1424 01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,880 my feet back on the ground, you know. 1425 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,159 He kept saying, "Well, we have arrangements." 1426 01:12:03,239 --> 01:12:04,560 And I said, "I've heard all your records. 1427 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,279 "I know all of your arrangements" 1428 01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:08,199 He asked to see my union card. 1429 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:11,399 Yeah, he really checked me out. 1430 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,239 - I let him sit in, and he was good. 1431 01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:17,039 I'll tell you, he was good. 1432 01:12:17,119 --> 01:12:18,560 'Cause I tried him. 1433 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:19,840 I went through three or four 1434 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,279 different keys that a lot of guys 1435 01:12:22,359 --> 01:12:25,319 are not too familiar with. 1436 01:12:25,399 --> 01:12:27,159 And I was enjoying it. 1437 01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:28,680 (laughing) 1438 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,000 But he was a genuine guy. 1439 01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:32,920 - He's a saint. 1440 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,920 He's a blues saint. 1441 01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:40,319 - [Voiceover] Many of these young players coming along today 1442 01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:42,800 have been really turned on by the way you play the guitar, 1443 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,479 people like Mike Bloomfield. 1444 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,000 - Oh, he's wonderful. 1445 01:12:46,079 --> 01:12:46,800 - [Voiceover] Do you hear yourself coming back 1446 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,039 from those bands? 1447 01:12:48,119 --> 01:12:49,520 Well... 1448 01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:53,680 Yes, I believe I do. 1449 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,359 I don't want to stick my neck out there, but I think so. 1450 01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,600 But I'm grateful that some of them seem to like me. 1451 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,560 I'm grateful because, 1452 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,520 to me, it seemed to open a few doors for us 1453 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,159 that seemed like they was never gonna be opened. 1454 01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:15,079 * Oh, because I 1455 01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:19,279 * I need your love so bad 1456 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,319 * Need a soft voice 1457 01:13:25,399 --> 01:13:29,119 * to talk to me at night * 1458 01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:31,720 - The first chance to play in front of a white audience 1459 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,399 it's just like, who are these people and, you know. 1460 01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:38,319 - I sent my road manager in there, and he told them to go 1461 01:13:38,399 --> 01:13:40,720 and tell Bill I was there, 1462 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,000 but I thought it was the wrong place, so we was gonna leave. 1463 01:13:44,079 --> 01:13:47,439 So, Bill came back out with the road manager, 1464 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:48,920 and came on the bus and sat down. 1465 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,840 He said, "No, you're at the right place." 1466 01:13:52,079 --> 01:13:54,319 - I happened to be there. 1467 01:13:54,399 --> 01:13:56,159 The opening act was Otis Rush 1468 01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:58,720 and Steve Miller, and B.B. King. 1469 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,000 - And he said, "Ladies and gentlemen." 1470 01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:03,479 And would you believe that when he said that, 1471 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,279 you could hear a pin drop? 1472 01:14:05,359 --> 01:14:08,520 He said, "I bring you the Chairman of the Board, B.B. King." 1473 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,359 I've never been introduced like that before or since. 1474 01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:17,039 When he mentioned my name, they all stood up. 1475 01:14:17,119 --> 01:14:19,960 And for about three or four tunes after that, 1476 01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:22,159 they would stand up after every tune. 1477 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,159 And I was so touched till I cried standing up there. 1478 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,760 - You know, it's like watching a chandelier. 1479 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,520 All I could see was his tears and the diamond ring 1480 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,399 that he had to wipe his tears. 1481 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,359 And I was still washing dishes at the time. 1482 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,119 I was living with my mom. 1483 01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:45,319 And when I saw B.B. receive that kind of adulation, 1484 01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:47,560 that kind of honor... 1485 01:14:49,279 --> 01:14:51,199 I said, "This is what I want." 1486 01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:53,000 - So I felt weird. 1487 01:14:53,079 --> 01:14:55,520 I felt real weird. 1488 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,479 But I did it. 1489 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,119 And after that I cried back up the stairway. 1490 01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:04,520 - It's like when Nat King Cole broke through 1491 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,720 and they accepted him, so we kept doing that 1492 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,960 after the initial '68 period, 1493 01:15:10,039 --> 01:15:12,800 {\an8}working the Fillmore, working colleges, 1494 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,279 {\an8}and then all of sudden we were able to book B.B. 1495 01:15:15,359 --> 01:15:17,600 {\an8}into these rock and roll clubs, 1496 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,520 and other venues that never had Black entertainers before. 1497 01:15:22,079 --> 01:15:26,720 - He shifted a gear from playing in Black clubs. 1498 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,600 All of a sudden, he was playing for white audiences. 1499 01:15:30,399 --> 01:15:34,319 And it shifted a couple of gears right there. 1500 01:15:34,399 --> 01:15:38,720 And then B.B. could do whatever the hell he wanted to do. 1501 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,479 - In their early days, including mine, you didn't get paid. 1502 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,600 You played well and you got drunk, if you drank. 1503 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,279 And if you played well enough, you got a good-looking woman. 1504 01:15:49,359 --> 01:15:50,760 So this was your pay. 1505 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,600 {\an8}- Women just scream, "B.B, B.B., B.B., B.B!" 1506 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,000 {\an8}- [B.B] Wait a minute now, Solomon. 1507 01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:58,680 - How you sell BBs? - [B.B.] Solomon, you are-- 1508 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,239 - How you sell BBs to women? 1509 01:16:00,319 --> 01:16:02,560 Tell them, "This is B.B. King's BBs." 1510 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,880 - Oh, yeah, I've been called a womanizer. 1511 01:16:08,079 --> 01:16:11,079 I've been called many things pertaining to women. 1512 01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:15,239 Most of them are true, and I love women. 1513 01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:18,720 - But you know there was one woman that loved you, 1514 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,720 and she had the bank. 1515 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,239 I remember her name, Carrie Cunningham. 1516 01:16:22,319 --> 01:16:23,600 - Oh, yes, yes, yes. 1517 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,760 - And she said, "I'd die for a B.B. King. 1518 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,720 "If he'd just come up in this hotel one night, 1519 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,760 "I'll rape him, eat him, and cook him." 1520 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,319 (laughter) 1521 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,720 - I ain't never met a woman yet that I didn't like. 1522 01:16:38,079 --> 01:16:41,039 But not to sleep with them all, but I like 'em. 1523 01:16:41,119 --> 01:16:43,720 I think they're the angels of the Earth. 1524 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,800 I don't think that most women 1525 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,760 would want me now, at my age. 1526 01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:52,319 Oh, a few might cause they might think I've saved 1527 01:16:52,399 --> 01:16:54,239 a dollar or two, here and there. 1528 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,680 Well, maybe a couple. 1529 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,000 * The thrill is gone 1530 01:17:11,319 --> 01:17:13,760 * The thrill is gone away 1531 01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:19,560 * Oh, the thrill is gone, baby 1532 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,680 * The thrill is gone away 1533 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,199 - I had been there about eight months, and in the interim, 1534 01:17:26,279 --> 01:17:29,119 {\an8}I'd obviously looked at the artist roster 1535 01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:32,720 {\an8}that was there, and I was, been a B.B. fan 1536 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,119 since I was a kid, literally. 1537 01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:38,600 And I kept buggin' 'em, I wanna produce B.B. King. 1538 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,720 I wanna produce B.B, "Well, you can't do that." 1539 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,119 Well, why not? 1540 01:17:42,199 --> 01:17:44,319 "Well, you're white, and you're too young." 1541 01:17:44,399 --> 01:17:47,359 * You know you done me wrong, baby 1542 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,560 * And you're gonna be sorry someday 1543 01:17:53,039 --> 01:17:56,159 - I figured if I could take some different players 1544 01:17:56,239 --> 01:17:59,239 and put 'em around B.B., 1545 01:17:59,319 --> 01:18:01,840 that something good would happen. 1546 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,239 So I pitched him on the idea, 1547 01:18:04,319 --> 01:18:06,640 and he said, he was interested, 1548 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,720 but he said, "I don't want to really commit to this 1549 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,840 "for a full album." 1550 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,760 So I said well, how about we do half of it 1551 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,560 live with your band, 1552 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,520 and then half of it with my band in the studio? 1553 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,520 And he said, "Okay, we'll do it that way." 1554 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,199 So thusly, Live & Well. 1555 01:18:22,279 --> 01:18:23,720 Very shortly after, I think it was only like 1556 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,399 eight months later, 1557 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,119 we were scheduled to do another album, and I said, 1558 01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:30,039 I'd like to do it all with my band, he said, 1559 01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:32,720 "Sure, let's do it all that way." 1560 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,920 And that was, and the big success that resulted 1561 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,359 out of the second album was The Thrill is Gone. 1562 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,399 * The thrill is gone 1563 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,880 {\an8}* The thrill is gone away * 1564 01:18:51,319 --> 01:18:54,520 {\an8}- We recorded that maybe at around 10, 11 o'clock at night, 1565 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,479 and I'm listening back to it at around two in the morning 1566 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,119 you know, going through everything that 1567 01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:01,119 we'd recorded that day. 1568 01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:03,560 And I had the idea to put strings on it. 1569 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,319 And I think that's probably the best idea 1570 01:19:06,399 --> 01:19:09,279 I've ever had in my career (laughs). 1571 01:19:09,359 --> 01:19:12,039 Because I think that's what took it to the pop charts. 1572 01:19:12,119 --> 01:19:16,199 - John actually brought in The Thrill is Gone 1573 01:19:16,279 --> 01:19:18,319 and played it to all of us. 1574 01:19:18,399 --> 01:19:20,720 I have that great memory of that. 1575 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,920 - And I think that song might have been one of the 1576 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:27,000 biggest blues songs of all time, The Thrill is Gone. 1577 01:19:27,079 --> 01:19:29,000 - I thought it was a great use of, 1578 01:19:29,079 --> 01:19:31,600 you know, strings and the blues. 1579 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,720 And it was like, you know, it was blues-y, but pop. 1580 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,960 It was really a cool song. 1581 01:19:36,039 --> 01:19:40,199 - Nobody in the blues had strings, no one. 1582 01:19:40,279 --> 01:19:42,720 They never thought of a blues player 1583 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,720 having strings behind him. 1584 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,239 That was just not common. 1585 01:19:49,319 --> 01:19:52,640 So when it did happen, 1586 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,720 it changed the recording industry. 1587 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,640 It changed it. 1588 01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,800 - Well, I'm forever in his debt for 1589 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,399 allowing me to produce him, 1590 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,239 and then bring a new idea to him, you know, 1591 01:20:05,319 --> 01:20:08,720 which really did establish my career as a producer. 1592 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,119 - B.B. had a really, a million-selling record then. 1593 01:20:12,199 --> 01:20:15,000 And that really put B.B. King into 1594 01:20:15,079 --> 01:20:17,520 a different category completely. 1595 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,439 * I am the little red rooster 1596 01:20:36,279 --> 01:20:38,520 * Too lazy to crow * 1597 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,640 - Sid was a big proponent of exposing B.B. 1598 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,199 to other audiences. 1599 01:20:43,279 --> 01:20:44,920 So, sometimes, he took dates that were 1600 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,479 not as lucrative financially, in order to bring him to 1601 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,119 other audiences that were not exposed to him. 1602 01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,520 Uh, somehow or another, my manger had talked with, uh, 1603 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,800 some of the people connected with the Stones and asked them, 1604 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,119 or presented my name to them, 1605 01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:09,680 that if they needed a kind of a, 1606 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,880 you might say, a warm-up group or something of that sort, 1607 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,800 that I was available. 1608 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,960 {\an8}- We never saw B.B., or had anything to do with B.B. until 1609 01:21:18,039 --> 01:21:21,600 {\an8}uh, '69, when we took him on tour. 1610 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,840 * Hounds begin to howl * 1611 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,600 - We had Ike and Tina Turner, and uh, 1612 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,159 B.B. King, and uh, Terry Reid. 1613 01:21:37,079 --> 01:21:39,520 - We used to go in the wings when he was playing. 1614 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,840 It was just a revelation, just seeing 1615 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,760 what he could do with dynamics. 1616 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,920 He took it to a completely different level with his 1617 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,520 going from a whisper. 1618 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,640 He'd take the band right down to a whisper. 1619 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,239 And it was amazing. 1620 01:21:53,319 --> 01:21:55,119 You'd just hear the... (mimicking guitar playing) 1621 01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:57,479 with the little guitar like this, and then he'd build, 1622 01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,920 and build, and build into this massive, 1623 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,520 sort of sound with the band. 1624 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:07,279 (soft blues music) 1625 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,439 I'd never heard dynamics like that. 1626 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,159 I've never heard them since. 1627 01:22:23,239 --> 01:22:25,159 I don't think anybody else has ever managed to achieve that 1628 01:22:25,239 --> 01:22:26,720 kind of thing that he did. 1629 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,880 - In a way, I think it was an interesting time 1630 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,840 for Black blues musician, because it was probably one 1631 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,319 of the few times they got to play in stadiums 1632 01:22:35,399 --> 01:22:37,840 to a white, predominately white audience. 1633 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,039 - Yeah, it would of, um, exposed him because we, 1634 01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:42,800 that was a fantastic tour. 1635 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,680 That was like the best tour we'd ever done. 1636 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:49,760 - The many people that I hadn't played, you know, to, 1637 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,319 or hadn't heard of me, started to, I think, 1638 01:22:52,399 --> 01:22:55,920 listen to me, or pay attention to me from that tour. 1639 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,760 * Please, drive him home * 1640 01:23:03,079 --> 01:23:05,520 - The kids always asked us where we got the songs from. 1641 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,119 America. 1642 01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:08,800 They said, "Where can we hear this kind of music?" 1643 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,079 And we said, "Just go across the river and there it is." 1644 01:23:11,159 --> 01:23:13,119 They would ask us, people from Chicago, 1645 01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:15,720 but they weren't allowed to go across the river at that time 1646 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,880 because of racial problems, and it was very dangerous. 1647 01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,119 We'd jump in a taxi and say, 1648 01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:23,680 "Take us to the South Side to a record." 1649 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,279 And the guy would say, "You shouldn't go there, 1650 01:23:25,359 --> 01:23:26,920 "you shouldn't go there you don't want to go there." 1651 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,239 We said, "Just take us to a record store," you know. 1652 01:23:29,319 --> 01:23:31,520 And so, he'd take us to a record store, 1653 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:36,119 and we'd rush in and look at the singles and all that, 1654 01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:38,039 and grab a handful, say, "How much?" 1655 01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:39,680 "Twenty dollars," pay it, 1656 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,319 jump back in the taxi and tear back to the safe side. 1657 01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:45,880 - They themselves will be the first ones to admit 1658 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,359 that they started out as a blues band. 1659 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,960 They were always very good at playing homage to the, um, 1660 01:23:52,039 --> 01:23:56,000 the blues artists that influenced them. 1661 01:23:56,079 --> 01:23:59,319 - We went to record at the legendary Chess Studios, 1662 01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:01,640 which is on South Michigan Avenue. 1663 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,399 When we're in the studio, we met everyone that 1664 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:04,720 was recording there. 1665 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,319 {\an8}You know, we met all our favorites, 1666 01:24:06,399 --> 01:24:09,600 {\an8}like Muddy Waters, Chuck Berry, Willie Dixon. 1667 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,359 {\an8}And I just want to, just was thinking about it. 1668 01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,279 {\an8}I was remembering how generous they were to us, you know, 1669 01:24:16,359 --> 01:24:18,640 because we must have, we must have, 1670 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,680 they must have thought we were like from Mars or something, 1671 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,239 you know, like. (audience laughs) 1672 01:24:23,319 --> 01:24:25,520 - They wanted to know, like, how we would do it, 1673 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,840 and why we wanted to do it. 1674 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,000 You know what I mean? 1675 01:24:29,079 --> 01:24:31,239 {\an8}"Why you wanna play like me." 1676 01:24:31,319 --> 01:24:33,800 {\an8}And we're, "It happens to be very good stuff." 1677 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,760 {\an8}You know (laughs). 1678 01:24:37,399 --> 01:24:38,960 And one day, I might get there. 1679 01:24:39,039 --> 01:24:40,760 - They were very, very generous to us. 1680 01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:44,640 And they passed on all the tips, and gave us all the help. 1681 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,159 And they were very, very kind. 1682 01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:48,039 And I want to salute those guys. 1683 01:24:48,119 --> 01:24:50,079 Most of them are not with us anymore. 1684 01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:52,439 Of course, one is B.B. King, who I... 1685 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,680 (audience applause) 1686 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:08,119 (laid-back blues music) 1687 01:25:08,199 --> 01:25:10,239 - The only tune I ever brought in 1688 01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:12,319 that I just asked B.B. to do, 1689 01:25:12,399 --> 01:25:14,760 and that was Hummingbird, the Leon Russell song. 1690 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:19,600 And, um, to get Leon to come and play with B.B., you know. 1691 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,039 Getting people to come play with B.B. was never a problem. 1692 01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:26,920 - I played on, on a song called Hummingbird, 1693 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,960 that, uh, Leon Russell wrote. 1694 01:25:30,039 --> 01:25:33,520 - He plays those little obligatos when he sings, 1695 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,199 he plays a lick, and sings, 1696 01:25:35,279 --> 01:25:36,560 and plays another lick. 1697 01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,920 Turns out, he does that when he talks, too. 1698 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,760 So, he was talking to me and, 1699 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,840 "You know, and one time, I was down in Tuscaloosa and..." 1700 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,520 (mimicking guitar) 1701 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,479 And I listened to it a couple of times, 1702 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,279 then I started playing the background to it. 1703 01:25:50,359 --> 01:25:52,039 And they're not all the same. 1704 01:25:52,119 --> 01:25:53,399 They're not in the same keys. 1705 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,199 They're not the same groove or anything. 1706 01:25:55,279 --> 01:25:56,840 And so, he'd... 1707 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,399 Finish it, would finished the song, whatever, in what key, 1708 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,359 whatever it was, played the ending. 1709 01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:05,760 He didn't say anything. 1710 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,119 And he started talking about something else, 1711 01:26:08,199 --> 01:26:10,720 then he played something else, and I'd play that background. 1712 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:15,640 We got into about the third one, and B.B. started crying. 1713 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:20,399 He says, uh, he said, "I've never had that before." 1714 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,800 So, uh, it was very touching to me. 1715 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,439 Uh, I was such a student of his, 1716 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,800 I knew what he meant when 1717 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,199 he said those things on the guitar. 1718 01:26:31,279 --> 01:26:33,920 So it was the greatest compliment. 1719 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,520 (gospel-style singing) 1720 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:45,039 (upbeat, energetic blues music) 1721 01:26:57,159 --> 01:26:59,880 - [Morgan] In 1971, B.B. King flew the nest 1722 01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:02,960 and ventured on his first overseas tour. 1723 01:27:04,039 --> 01:27:06,920 This culminated in a collaborative album called 1724 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,399 B.B. King in London. 1725 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,680 * And I love her just the same * 1726 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,920 - Okay, we're starting again from the top. 1727 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,520 So you get a feel of what I'm talking about. 1728 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,600 Not the top of the, the top of the last one. 1729 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,720 Okay? 1730 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,720 * Fast moving baby 1731 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,279 * I can't do nothing to slow you down 1732 01:27:27,359 --> 01:27:30,600 * Your speed is supersonic, mama 1733 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,119 * And you're faster than sound 1734 01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:35,079 * Now, now * 1735 01:27:38,119 --> 01:27:39,520 - [Voiceover] I don't know. 1736 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,640 - You don't belong to the union, man! 1737 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,159 (laughter) 1738 01:27:43,239 --> 01:27:45,560 - When B.B. came to London to make that album, 1739 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:46,920 B.B. in London, 1740 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,359 uh, I was invited to play. 1741 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,079 It was just incredible. 1742 01:27:51,159 --> 01:27:53,720 We're playing away, and B.B. sort of looks at me. 1743 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,279 And I thought, "Oh, he wants to end the song." 1744 01:27:57,359 --> 01:27:58,600 So, I... 1745 01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,159 (mimicking percussion) 1746 01:28:01,239 --> 01:28:03,920 And he goes, "Too good to lose." 1747 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,720 And we came right in again. 1748 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,279 It was like, oh my God, It was so great! 1749 01:28:09,359 --> 01:28:11,600 We just kicked it in again. 1750 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,920 And, uh, he did pay me a huge compliment in those sessions, 1751 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,359 'cause he called me, 1752 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:18,680 "Hey, Ringo, you were just like 1753 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,520 "a clock, tick-tock, tick-tock." 1754 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,560 - He just had everything, 1755 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,760 everything that you'd want out of performer, you know? 1756 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,720 He had the energy, the charisma, you know. 1757 01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,000 He's handsome, he's got beautiful tone. 1758 01:28:30,079 --> 01:28:31,439 Everything had a meaning. 1759 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,039 Every note just like a punch. 1760 01:28:34,119 --> 01:28:37,000 (cheering) 1761 01:28:37,079 --> 01:28:40,720 - In 1974, I produced a big event. 1762 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,560 {\an8}I stepped out of my usual life and produced this big event, 1763 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,520 {\an8}in Zaire in 1974, that surrounded the fight between 1764 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,720 George Foreman and Muhammad Ali. 1765 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,920 And I brought B.B. over. 1766 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,920 B.B came without a band, and, uh, was backed 1767 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,319 by The Crusaders, who I was producing then. 1768 01:28:58,399 --> 01:29:01,119 So B.B. was knocked out with how that went. 1769 01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:05,319 A few years later, I got a call from B.B. saying that 1770 01:29:05,399 --> 01:29:08,359 he really needed to make a record, and uh, 1771 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,039 would I be interested? 1772 01:29:10,119 --> 01:29:13,520 So we sat down with, um, Joe Sample from The Crusaders, 1773 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,319 who was the piano player, and I put him together 1774 01:29:16,399 --> 01:29:18,279 with a great lyricist, a young lyricist 1775 01:29:18,359 --> 01:29:20,119 named Will Jennings, at the time. 1776 01:29:20,199 --> 01:29:22,159 We made our first record with B.B. 1777 01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:25,720 The magic of recording is the danger in recording. 1778 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,399 When someone's played something for three years, and they 1779 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:32,560 come up, they walk into a studio and play it, they know it. 1780 01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,239 They've been through it so many times. 1781 01:29:34,319 --> 01:29:37,119 But when they're engaging it for the first time, 1782 01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:39,319 and if you can capture that moment, 1783 01:29:39,399 --> 01:29:41,600 you got yourself something special. 1784 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,239 * You know I'm having so much trouble, people 1785 01:29:46,319 --> 01:29:48,439 * Oh, I wonder 1786 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:49,680 * Yes, I wonder 1787 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,560 * Baby, I wonder 1788 01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:00,399 * Oh, what in the world is gonna happen to me * 1789 01:30:08,359 --> 01:30:12,039 (cheering) (applause) 1790 01:30:14,079 --> 01:30:18,159 * Turn out the light, sleep won't come * 1791 01:30:19,359 --> 01:30:22,960 - Could have been with someone like Bill Szymczyk, a genius. 1792 01:30:23,039 --> 01:30:25,399 Take you in the studio, "What you gon' do? 1793 01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:29,359 "One, two, three, four, five, which one you gonna do?" 1794 01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,119 Five. 1795 01:30:31,199 --> 01:30:32,840 He'd let you do it. 1796 01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:37,119 And that's the way I think a good producer should be. 1797 01:30:38,079 --> 01:30:40,640 * Hold on 1798 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,920 * I feel our love is changing 1799 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,920 * Hold on * 1800 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,720 - The end of that first album, he said, "I made a mistake, 1801 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,119 "I left Sid, I wish I hadn't done it, It was a mistake. 1802 01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:53,640 "And uh, I don't know if Sid would ever--" 1803 01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,439 I said, "What are you trying to say, B.?" 1804 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,359 He says, "Well, I think we got a winner here, 1805 01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,760 "and I need somebody to help me navigate it. 1806 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,319 "You know what I mean?" 1807 01:31:01,399 --> 01:31:03,600 So I said, well, why don't I make a call to Sid. 1808 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,239 You want me to do that? 1809 01:31:05,319 --> 01:31:08,760 And I said, Sid, I think we got a hit album with B.B. 1810 01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,880 He wants you to come back. 1811 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,279 He said, "Did he say that?" 1812 01:31:13,359 --> 01:31:15,720 I said, not in that many words, but I think you 1813 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,000 should come out, man. 1814 01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:18,640 He says, "I'll take the red eye." 1815 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:23,079 So the next day, he showed up at the studio, 1816 01:31:23,159 --> 01:31:26,119 and they were there till the day Sid died. 1817 01:31:26,199 --> 01:31:30,680 * I'm nothing without you here * 1818 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:35,600 - There was a time when he was doing 300-plus days a year. 1819 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,319 {\an8}And I'm talking about back in the late '70s, 1820 01:31:39,399 --> 01:31:41,039 {\an8}and all through the '80s, 1821 01:31:41,119 --> 01:31:43,439 {\an8}and the first part of the '90s. 1822 01:31:45,159 --> 01:31:48,119 - [Morgan] Many people tend to slow down in their 60s. 1823 01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:50,119 Not B.B. King. 1824 01:31:50,199 --> 01:31:53,520 His next collaboration with a young band from Ireland 1825 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,399 was about to propel B.B. to a whole new audience. 1826 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,520 - [Voiceover] Well, you tour with Rolling Stones. 1827 01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,800 And then you go with the popular group of the now, 1828 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,720 and that's with Bono and U2. 1829 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,000 Huh? 1830 01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:08,039 - [B.B.] (laughing) My number one. 1831 01:32:08,119 --> 01:32:12,640 (upbeat rock music) 1832 01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:22,840 - Keith Richards played blues records to us, um, 1833 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:27,439 and it began this kind of journey to discover, um, 1834 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,279 who were the greats. 1835 01:32:29,359 --> 01:32:32,520 And, you know, B.B. King's not just, 1836 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,359 you know, great. 1837 01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,960 He's like, great! 1838 01:32:38,039 --> 01:32:42,800 (applause) (cheering) 1839 01:32:48,039 --> 01:32:50,600 Believe it or not, B.B. King came to Dublin, Ireland. 1840 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,479 And he was playing in this club in Dublin, Ireland, 1841 01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,720 and we wrote this song for him. 1842 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,920 This is called "When Love Comes to Town." 1843 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,680 - I had went to listen to the tape, and I was able to, uh, 1844 01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,680 kind of get some of it together. 1845 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:05,800 - I hope you like the song. 1846 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,359 - I love the song. 1847 01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:11,119 I think the lyrics is really, real heavy lyrics. 1848 01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:13,920 You're mighty young to write such heavy lyrics. 1849 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,479 (laughing) 1850 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,000 * Ay, yeah, yeah, yeah 1851 01:33:19,079 --> 01:33:22,840 * Ay, yeah, yeah, yeah 1852 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,279 * I was a sailor, I was lost at sea * 1853 01:33:27,199 --> 01:33:30,880 - You know, I felt, we were pretty popular at the time, 1854 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,840 Number-one records, 1855 01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,319 um, on the cover of Time magazine. 1856 01:33:36,399 --> 01:33:38,800 Uh, I gave it my absolute... 1857 01:33:40,359 --> 01:33:44,159 You know, everything I had in that howl, 1858 01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:46,960 um, at the start of the song. 1859 01:33:47,039 --> 01:33:50,840 And then B.B. King opened up his mouth, 1860 01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:52,600 and I felt like a girl. 1861 01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,039 * I stand accused of the things I've said 1862 01:33:56,119 --> 01:33:59,800 * Love comes to town, I'm gonna jump that train 1863 01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:03,680 * When love comes to town, I'm gonna catch that flame 1864 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,199 * Maybe I was wrong to ever let you down 1865 01:34:07,279 --> 01:34:10,960 * But I did what I did before love came to town * 1866 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,399 We had learned. 1867 01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,079 We'd absorbed. 1868 01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:22,520 But the more we tried to be like B.B., 1869 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,920 the less convincing we were. 1870 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,000 - I'm no good with chords, so, uh, 1871 01:34:28,079 --> 01:34:31,439 what we do is get somebody else to play chords. 1872 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,920 Sure, well, Edge will do that. 1873 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:35,720 There's not much chords in this song. 1874 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:36,840 I think there's only two. 1875 01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:38,640 I'm horrible with chords. 1876 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:43,239 (B.B. soloing on guitar) 1877 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,000 - When we were working on "When Love Comes to Town," 1878 01:34:48,079 --> 01:34:49,800 we were sitting around, 1879 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,680 and we were showing him the chords. 1880 01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:56,319 And he said, "Gentlemen. 1881 01:34:56,399 --> 01:34:57,560 "Gentlemen. 1882 01:34:59,319 --> 01:35:01,000 "I don't do chords. 1883 01:35:02,279 --> 01:35:04,000 "I do this." 1884 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,439 - I don't know what to do there. 1885 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:07,880 I'll just turn the... 1886 01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,840 (bluesy guitar notes) 1887 01:35:13,359 --> 01:35:15,319 - There's a lesson in that. 1888 01:35:15,399 --> 01:35:19,359 He is as Keith Richards, um, describes... 1889 01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,840 Um, a specialist. 1890 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,199 * I was a sailor, I was lost at sea 1891 01:35:28,279 --> 01:35:31,840 * I was under the waves, before love rescued me 1892 01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,520 * I was a fighter, I could turn on a thread 1893 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,439 * Now I stand accused of the things I've said * 1894 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,560 But there was this great sense of camaraderie in his band. 1895 01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,239 And it was a joy, just a joy, 1896 01:35:45,319 --> 01:35:47,119 to share a stage with B.B. King. 1897 01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:50,640 A rich, brassy sound they had behind them 1898 01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,720 with the horn section, and then, 1899 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,720 his grace, you know? 1900 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,319 He's, he's a lesson in grace. 1901 01:35:59,399 --> 01:36:03,800 * But I did what I did before love came to town * 1902 01:36:09,079 --> 01:36:13,520 - We did Japan, Australia, and New Zealand, and uh, Europe. 1903 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,880 But we did a four-month tour. 1904 01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,880 {\an8}And, uh, that was some of the biggest audiences 1905 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,760 {\an8}I've ever seen, uh, 1906 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,479 70,000, 80,000 people, as far as the eye could see. 1907 01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,119 It was something different. 1908 01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:29,560 - I think our audience really took to him. 1909 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,720 And, uh, and I would like to think that 1910 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,479 whatever town he turns up in, 1911 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,319 there's some U2 fans there, even now. 1912 01:36:37,399 --> 01:36:41,000 (energetic music) 1913 01:36:44,319 --> 01:36:45,800 All right. 1914 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:47,399 Might as well go for it. 1915 01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,039 - [B.B.] A lot of emotion right there. 1916 01:36:50,119 --> 01:36:51,640 That's all right, young man. 1917 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:53,239 That's all right. 1918 01:36:53,319 --> 01:36:56,680 - The debt is very much, um, in his direction. 1919 01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:01,000 (slow guitar solo music) 1920 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,600 The character of any great musician is usually 1921 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:11,600 identifiable by the individuality of the vibrato. 1922 01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:20,920 Most players are recognizable by that particular facet 1923 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:22,319 of their playing. 1924 01:37:22,399 --> 01:37:25,000 And that's how I would know B.B.'s playing. 1925 01:37:25,079 --> 01:37:28,479 And I can tell B.B. from one note, you know? 1926 01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,199 Most of us can, I think. 1927 01:37:30,279 --> 01:37:31,600 - I'd say that's true. 1928 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,119 Yeah, yeah. 1929 01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:35,720 I mean, his sound is completely unique to him. 1930 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,439 - If you can just play one note and somebody else can, say, 1931 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,479 "Recognize who that is." 1932 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,880 - From one note, you know that's him and Lucille. 1933 01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,119 - He can take one note and make it so sexy. 1934 01:37:46,199 --> 01:37:48,680 - One note, you know, is all it takes. 1935 01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:49,479 - The note with the vibrato. 1936 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:50,319 - One note. 1937 01:37:50,399 --> 01:37:51,199 - One note. 1938 01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:52,319 - One note. 1939 01:37:52,399 --> 01:37:56,520 (guitar solo music) 1940 01:38:06,359 --> 01:38:08,640 - He tried to show me how to do it. 1941 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,199 He sat with me with his guitar, Lucille, 1942 01:38:12,279 --> 01:38:15,520 and showed me how to do it. 1943 01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,039 And I'm buggered if I could do it. 1944 01:38:18,119 --> 01:38:19,720 I tried everything. 1945 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,319 I tried all of that, and all of this. 1946 01:38:21,399 --> 01:38:22,560 Nothing. 1947 01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,279 I said, it don't happen for me! 1948 01:38:24,359 --> 01:38:27,000 That's probably why I am a bass player. 1949 01:38:27,079 --> 01:38:30,279 - That note is not in the amplifier, and it's not, 1950 01:38:30,359 --> 01:38:32,119 it's not even on his fingers. 1951 01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:34,239 It's coming from the center of his heart. 1952 01:38:34,319 --> 01:38:38,279 You know, I can hear B.B. King with the sound off on the TV 1953 01:38:38,359 --> 01:38:40,800 just by looking at his face. 1954 01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,680 - I remember Eric Clapton was on CNN, 1955 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,319 and they asked him who he had never played with. 1956 01:39:04,399 --> 01:39:07,840 And B.B, evidently, was watching it, because I was. 1957 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,800 And he said, "B.B. King." 1958 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,319 - The first time I met him, I sat and played with him. 1959 01:39:12,399 --> 01:39:15,159 I mean, I've seen, there are pictures of me and him playing, 1960 01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:16,880 sitting on amplifiers. 1961 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,000 It was a long time ago. 1962 01:39:18,079 --> 01:39:19,840 It's '66, '67. 1963 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,199 And that was it for me, for having my dreams come true. 1964 01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:37,600 * I dreamed I had a good job, and I got well paid 1965 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:42,600 * I blew it all at the penny arcade * 1966 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,920 - The CD he did with me called Riding with The King, 1967 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,600 he named it, I didn't! 1968 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,960 He had the ideas, most of the ideas for it. 1969 01:39:54,039 --> 01:39:55,960 He had them, I didn't. 1970 01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,680 And it was my CD. 1971 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,520 But I had told him when we started, 1972 01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,800 because his ideas I respect. 1973 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:06,319 - "Next year, don't do anything during that period, 1974 01:40:06,399 --> 01:40:07,720 "and we'll do it." 1975 01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,039 And he stuck to it, you know. 1976 01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:11,800 He kept, It was a commitment we both kept. 1977 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,479 - When I'm going in the studio to do what I do, 1978 01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:19,000 I don't need you, Eric, nobody else, 1979 01:40:19,079 --> 01:40:22,079 to show me what I wanna do. 1980 01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:24,640 But I'll listen to ideas. 1981 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,720 And I listened to a lot of his ideas, 1982 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,479 and he had a lot of good ones for Riding with The King. 1983 01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,560 - So I thought, well the best thing to do is, I'll just, 1984 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,880 we'll just go into the room with a couple of 1985 01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,319 acoustic guitars and see what comes out. 1986 01:40:37,399 --> 01:40:40,720 - Whatever you think is good, we'll try it. 1987 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,079 And we did. 1988 01:40:43,159 --> 01:40:45,079 And they were good. 1989 01:40:45,159 --> 01:40:46,720 Everything. 1990 01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:48,920 Except trying to make me play acoustic guitar. 1991 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:50,319 I didn't like that. 1992 01:40:50,399 --> 01:40:52,399 (laughing) 1993 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,119 I had been cut all to pieces 1994 01:40:55,199 --> 01:40:58,119 by a guy called Alexis Korner. 1995 01:40:58,199 --> 01:41:02,640 Alexis Korner said, "B., I got two modern guitars, 1996 01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,359 "acoustic guitars. 1997 01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,920 "And I got an idea for something I call 'Alexis Boogie,' 1998 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,000 "so let's try it." 1999 01:41:11,079 --> 01:41:13,399 But, boy, when we started to recording, 2000 01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,520 he just cut me to pieces. 2001 01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,720 I said, "Ha! 2002 01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,920 "I will never play another one as long as you're alive." 2003 01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:23,399 (laughing) 2004 01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,119 And I didn't. 2005 01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:27,800 I promised I wouldn't do it again, 2006 01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,560 but Alexis is dead now, so I'll try it. 2007 01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,399 And he did the same thing, 2008 01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:33,920 cut me to pieces. 2009 01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:35,640 So, I won't do it again. 2010 01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,399 - (laughing) You're kidding! 2011 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,399 He has ears, um, that you wouldn't believe. 2012 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,479 So, you know, we all do, to a certain extent, 2013 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,520 but he is, you know, beyond anything, 2014 01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,520 so if you, if you mimic him, 2015 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,119 if he throws out a phrase and you, 2016 01:41:52,199 --> 01:41:55,359 you manage to articulate it back at him, 2017 01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,520 he will take that and then modify. 2018 01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,359 I mean, he's always, you know. 2019 01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,760 From day one with B.B. from that day 2020 01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:03,720 at the Cafe au Go Go until now, 2021 01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,680 you know, we just sit down and play, and have a few laughs 2022 01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,359 along the way, it's very relaxed. 2023 01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,279 - B.B. was doing something no one has ever done. 2024 01:42:13,359 --> 01:42:15,640 And all your rock guitar players and whatever 2025 01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,560 you wanna call it right now, if you take the big amplifiers 2026 01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,359 away from 'em, 2027 01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,680 and the all the special effects, you hear B.B. King. 2028 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:28,000 - I mean, I don't think I pick up the guitar without playing 2029 01:42:28,079 --> 01:42:30,920 at least one or two B.B. King licks, like within 2030 01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,720 the first five minutes that I'm playing the guitar. 2031 01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,720 {\an8}- He has got a certain melodic sense 2032 01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,880 {\an8}that is unique to himself. 2033 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,039 {\an8}And it really has a personal thing for my own 2034 01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:43,399 personal tastes that I really identify with. 2035 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:45,479 - He's paving the way. 2036 01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:47,319 And it gives me great hopes for the future. 2037 01:42:47,399 --> 01:42:50,960 Every time I start thinking, well, geez, 2038 01:42:51,039 --> 01:42:55,800 I'm officially not young anymore, there's B.B. 2039 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,520 Well, I don't need to worry. 2040 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:00,920 Look at him. 2041 01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,439 - He's a grand, majestic spirit, 2042 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:09,199 that when he plays, it commands respect. 2043 01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,720 - 'Cause these youngsters are playing so good. 2044 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:16,000 I hear them and say to myself, oh, God. 2045 01:43:16,079 --> 01:43:17,560 I might as well quit. 2046 01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:21,000 And then the other mind says, "How you gon' eat?" 2047 01:43:21,079 --> 01:43:22,720 (laughing) 2048 01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,119 So, that's one of the reasons that I haven't quit. 2049 01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:27,479 - I think that he's gonna keep on doing 2050 01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,000 what he's been doing. 2051 01:43:29,079 --> 01:43:30,920 At the moment, um, we work 2052 01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,000 three weeks on and three weeks off. 2053 01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:35,760 And B.B. used the expression, 2054 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,800 "That's gonna be carved in stone." 2055 01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:42,000 (cheering) 2056 01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:55,119 - When you mention the name B.B. King, 2057 01:43:55,199 --> 01:43:57,960 everybody can identify with his hometown, 2058 01:43:58,039 --> 01:44:00,199 and many of them began to know that, 2059 01:44:00,279 --> 01:44:03,359 that hometown is Indianola, Mississippi. 2060 01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:07,800 (laid-back blues music) 2061 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,119 - The Medgar Evers Homecoming is 2062 01:44:18,199 --> 01:44:20,439 originally started by B.B. King. 2063 01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:24,560 Every year I go down there for what we call Homecoming. 2064 01:44:29,279 --> 01:44:32,119 B.B. came up, and the state of Mississippi was , 2065 01:44:32,199 --> 01:44:34,800 sweltering hate, and racism and bigotry. 2066 01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:38,319 And anyone who had the nerve and fortitude to go out 2067 01:44:38,399 --> 01:44:40,720 and fight to change that, B.B. supported. 2068 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,760 And Medgar was the one who chose to do that in Mississippi, 2069 01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,079 and the first to lead us into that. 2070 01:44:45,159 --> 01:44:49,479 - [Morgan] In 2008, Indianola showed its gratitude 2071 01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,079 and opened the B.B. King Museum. 2072 01:44:53,399 --> 01:44:56,960 Every year, tens of thousands of people visit 2073 01:44:57,039 --> 01:45:00,560 from all over the world to this little town in Mississippi 2074 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:04,119 to share one of the greatest journeys ever told. 2075 01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:09,520 (energetic instrumental music) 2076 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:11,960 - All right, put your hands over her head, please. 2077 01:45:12,039 --> 01:45:15,000 (cheering) 2078 01:45:15,079 --> 01:45:16,960 Okay, one more time. 2079 01:45:17,039 --> 01:45:20,319 (fireworks popping) 2080 01:45:20,399 --> 01:45:23,079 - He's one of the most, if not the most, 2081 01:45:23,159 --> 01:45:26,319 beloved artists on the planet Earth today. 2082 01:45:26,399 --> 01:45:28,039 - He's great in every way. 2083 01:45:28,119 --> 01:45:30,159 Just the girth of the man is great. 2084 01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:33,800 His big laugh is great. 2085 01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,520 His big voice is great. 2086 01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,159 He is. 2087 01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:41,680 You know, the only person who doesn't think B.B.'s great 2088 01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,000 is probably B.B.. 2089 01:45:44,079 --> 01:45:46,119 - People call me "King of the Blues." 2090 01:45:46,199 --> 01:45:47,560 I've heard it many, many times. 2091 01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,239 Do you think I think that? 2092 01:45:49,319 --> 01:45:50,920 No, I do not. 2093 01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,640 I think it's a lot of people can do exactly what I do, 2094 01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:55,920 and a lot of them can do it better. 2095 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,000 They're just not me. 2096 01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,279 * Did you ever hear a church bell tone 2097 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,439 * Ever hear a church bell tone 2098 01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:12,399 * Did you ever hear a church bell tone 2099 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:16,760 * Then you know that old B. is dead and gone * 2100 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:19,520 - He never forgets his old friends. 2101 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:23,479 If he's aware of a situation with one, or an old band member 2102 01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:27,720 who he considers them all family, current and past. 2103 01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,479 - He cares about people. 2104 01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:32,319 He loves people. 2105 01:46:32,399 --> 01:46:34,159 - And I think he's the most easiest-going 2106 01:46:34,239 --> 01:46:36,000 person I ever seen. 2107 01:46:36,079 --> 01:46:40,479 - He wanted to share his talent and his soul with the world. 2108 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,560 And that's what he did. 2109 01:46:45,039 --> 01:46:47,640 - He's a one of a kind. 2110 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,600 - I mean, he's just like, you know? 2111 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:52,039 Unbelievable. 2112 01:46:52,119 --> 01:46:55,359 - Infinitely, he's the most producible artist 2113 01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:56,720 I've ever worked with. 2114 01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:58,279 - He's a master. 2115 01:46:58,359 --> 01:47:00,159 Who wouldn't want to work with a master? 2116 01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:02,199 - There's only one B.B. 2117 01:47:02,279 --> 01:47:03,640 - Well, he's an icon. 2118 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:06,039 I mean, he's absolutely an American blues icon, 2119 01:47:06,119 --> 01:47:09,399 and, uh, he might be one of the last 2120 01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:11,520 of the really great ones. 2121 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:15,960 - Friedrich Nietzsche, uh, Nietzsche, um, 2122 01:47:16,039 --> 01:47:20,680 said, "For true greatness to take place, 2123 01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:25,239 "there requires a long obedience in the same direction." 2124 01:47:26,079 --> 01:47:30,399 - I can't tell anybody what I want to hear, but I have a... 2125 01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,760 I hear it myself, but I can't play it. 2126 01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,520 (laughing) I don't know how to really get it myself. 2127 01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,439 I think sometimes, the sound that I hear 2128 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,399 has never been the sound that I want to hear, 2129 01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,560 if I make sense. 2130 01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,520 It is a little sound there that I hear, 2131 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,640 but I can't tell anybody about it. 2132 01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:56,920 When I hear what I would like to hear, if ever, 2133 01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,399 I think I'd have to stop, because it probably won't sound 2134 01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,479 as good as I'm thinking it will. 2135 01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:03,880 (laughing) 2136 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,960 - I think that as a, as a lesson in living, 2137 01:48:07,039 --> 01:48:09,720 you can look at B.B. and also learn what it's like to be 2138 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,039 a man, and get through all those difficult times he had, 2139 01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:15,760 and come through with the heart that he still has. 2140 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:17,800 It's no mean accomplishment. 2141 01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,119 - I don't think I've done the best that I could have done. 2142 01:48:21,199 --> 01:48:22,640 I thought I had. 2143 01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:28,520 I thought that I did everything the best I could, 2144 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,279 but when I look back, I see there's some slacks. 2145 01:48:31,359 --> 01:48:33,800 You can do better. 2146 01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:37,800 - I've never told him, but I sometimes call him 2147 01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:39,640 "father of us all," 2148 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:41,760 because that's the way I see him. 2149 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,279 It's very difficult to find words to say. 2150 01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:51,359 Excuse me. 2151 01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:54,279 - He sang the blues and did a great job of it, 2152 01:48:54,359 --> 01:48:58,840 and rose to a greater height where even invited by kings 2153 01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,600 and potentates, all from where he was. 2154 01:49:03,159 --> 01:49:06,520 {\an8}- I've never met a king before, so I'm a bit nervous, 2155 01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,640 {\an8}but also grateful. 2156 01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,319 So grateful. 2157 01:49:11,399 --> 01:49:12,359 Thank you. 2158 01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,640 (praying in foreign language) 2159 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:19,239 I said, Holy Father, I know you're always doing things 2160 01:49:19,319 --> 01:49:23,319 for others, so I want to do something for you, sir. 2161 01:49:23,399 --> 01:49:27,479 I said, I'd like to offer my guitar to you. 2162 01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,680 He took it himself. 2163 01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:33,520 He stepped and took it from the guy, and he smiled again. 2164 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:37,800 Then he said, "Happy holidays to you and your family, B.B." 2165 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,399 I said, oh my God, he said "B.B." 2166 01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,079 (laughing) 2167 01:49:43,159 --> 01:49:46,680 * Through the night 2168 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:50,199 * Lead me on, Lord 2169 01:49:50,279 --> 01:49:53,399 * To the light 2170 01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,279 * Take my hand * 2171 01:49:57,359 --> 01:50:01,199 - Some nights when you wanna go out and just take a walk, 2172 01:50:01,279 --> 01:50:03,159 clear your head, 2173 01:50:03,239 --> 01:50:06,680 {\an8}or jump into a car just to take a drive, you can't do it. 2174 01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:09,560 {\an8}Secret Service won't let you, and that's frustrating. 2175 01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,640 Uh, but then, uh, there are other nights where B.B. King 2176 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,359 and Mick Jagger come over to your house 2177 01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,159 to play for a concert. (audience laughs) 2178 01:50:17,239 --> 01:50:19,680 (applause) 2179 01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,800 * Come on 2180 01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,600 * Baby, don't you wanna go 2181 01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:30,279 * Same ole' place 2182 01:50:30,359 --> 01:50:32,199 * Sweet home, Chicago * 2183 01:50:32,279 --> 01:50:33,880 (applause) 2184 01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,800 - Now, it's my honor as Governor of the state of Mississippi 2185 01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:42,479 to proclaim February 15th, 2005, as B.B. King Day 2186 01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:45,119 for the entire state of Mississippi. 2187 01:50:45,199 --> 01:50:48,720 And I urge all citizens to join me and the Legislature 2188 01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:52,039 in celebrating and honoring 2189 01:50:52,119 --> 01:50:54,720 this great Mississippian. 2190 01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:59,039 (applause) 2191 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,119 - Only God knows how I feel. 2192 01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:09,399 I am so happy, thank you. 2193 01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:13,720 (applause) 2194 01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,760 (slow, sad music) 2195 01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,319 - Well, the only thing about the blues, when B.B.'s gone, 2196 01:51:21,399 --> 01:51:23,319 like everything else, the world goes on. 2197 01:51:23,399 --> 01:51:25,199 It's not gon' stop because B.B. King leave, 2198 01:51:25,279 --> 01:51:26,960 but it'll never be the same. 2199 01:51:27,039 --> 01:51:29,760 But I'm here to tell you, B.B. is leaving a legend that's 2200 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:31,520 gon' be hard to be beat. 2201 01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,600 - We just got a B.B. King in our life. 2202 01:51:37,039 --> 01:51:39,199 And ain't nothing else like him. 2203 01:51:39,279 --> 01:51:41,520 - I'm hoping, though, that... 2204 01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,560 When I start to sounding as bad as I think I will 2205 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:48,239 when I get a certain age, 2206 01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,720 I hope that, you know, that a little bell will ring 2207 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,159 in my head that says, "It's time to stop." 2208 01:51:56,239 --> 01:52:00,800 But other than that, I'll wait till the great one upstairs 2209 01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:04,520 take me away, 'cause I don't feel bad. 2210 01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:07,159 Feel pretty good at 85, so... 2211 01:52:08,159 --> 01:52:10,000 Here I am. 2212 01:52:10,079 --> 01:52:11,800 That's the best I can answer. 2213 01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:18,279 Today at the Homecoming, I saw a little boy in the choir 2214 01:52:18,359 --> 01:52:22,279 that remind me so much of little Riley King, me, 2215 01:52:22,359 --> 01:52:24,239 you know, moi. 2216 01:52:26,119 --> 01:52:30,319 And I almost cried thinking that here he is today. 2217 01:52:30,399 --> 01:52:32,760 He didn't have to go through what I went through. 2218 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,159 What is it that I could have told him, or could tell you, 2219 01:52:37,239 --> 01:52:41,119 that would make the life better for that little guy 2220 01:52:41,199 --> 01:52:43,000 that looked like a little Riley King? 2221 01:52:44,159 --> 01:52:48,079 Then I smile and think, the sky is the limit. 2222 01:52:48,159 --> 01:52:52,520 * Ever, ever, ever, ever, and ever 2223 01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,159 * I cross my heart * 2224 01:52:56,239 --> 01:52:58,119 - [Voiceover] What do you want to do with your music 2225 01:52:58,199 --> 01:52:59,960 and with your singing? 2226 01:53:00,039 --> 01:53:02,760 - Play the best that I can. 2227 01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:07,119 Reach as many people as I can, as many countries. 2228 01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:08,800 Otherwords, 2229 01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,520 I'd like the whole world to be able to hear B.B. King sing 2230 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,520 and play the blues. 2231 01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:18,159 * I swear by stars above 2232 01:53:19,359 --> 01:53:24,079 * I'll keep my word 2233 01:53:24,159 --> 01:53:28,880 * My love 2234 01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,399 * You sitting there lookin' proud and thinking 2235 01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,319 * you so fine 2236 01:53:47,399 --> 01:53:49,760 * You're trying to run around with each and every 2237 01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,880 * friend of mine 2238 01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,319 * You're thinking you're so smart, baby, 2239 01:53:54,399 --> 01:53:56,520 * and think that I'm a fool 2240 01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:00,920 * But baby let me tell you, you'd better play it cool 2241 01:54:02,399 --> 01:54:05,279 * 'Cause I'm tired of your jive 2242 01:54:05,359 --> 01:54:08,279 * Yes, baby, I'm tired of your jive 2243 01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,880 * Yes, I refuse to be your fool, woman 2244 01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:17,399 * Baby, I'm tired of your jive 2245 01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,760 * You think that I don't see 2246 01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,319 * what you do behind my back 2247 01:54:25,399 --> 01:54:27,920 * You think that I should love you, woman 2248 01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,359 * in spite of what you lack 2249 01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,359 * You'd better pay attention, baby, 2250 01:54:32,439 --> 01:54:34,720 * or you might not be around 2251 01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,000 * You wake up early one morning, baby 2252 01:54:37,079 --> 01:54:39,640 * and I'll be done put you down 2253 01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:43,720 * 'Cause I'm tired of your jive 2254 01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:47,800 * Yes, woman, I'm tired of your jive 2255 01:54:49,439 --> 01:54:52,560 * I refuse to be your fool, baby, 2256 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,880 * 'cause I'm tired of your jive 2257 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,239 * You're sitting there just a-smiling 2258 01:55:01,319 --> 01:55:03,520 * and thinking nothing's wrong 2259 01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:05,840 * I don't intend to pull your coat, baby, 2260 01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,079 * you'll know it when I'm gone 2261 01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:10,279 * You'll never miss your water, baby, 2262 01:55:10,359 --> 01:55:12,720 * till the well runs dry 2263 01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:17,199 * Well now, baby, I'm gonna tell you by and by 2264 01:55:20,079 --> 01:55:22,239 * I'm tired of your jive, baby 2265 01:55:22,319 --> 01:55:24,880 * Yes, you know, I'm tired of your jive 2266 01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,520 * I say I refuse to be your fool, baby 2267 01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,800 * I'm tired of your jive 2268 01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:55,920 * Lord, I wonder, yes, I wonder 2269 01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,800 * Do my baby think of me 2270 01:56:04,079 --> 01:56:08,000 * Oh, I wonder, Lord, I wonder 2271 01:56:08,079 --> 01:56:11,319 * Do my baby think of me 2272 01:56:16,399 --> 01:56:20,319 * Now, I wonder, Lord, I wonder 2273 01:56:20,399 --> 01:56:23,439 * Will my babe come back to me 2274 01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:32,520 * Yeah, she been gone so long, 2275 01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,000 * just can't stand it no more 2276 01:56:41,079 --> 01:56:45,039 * Oh, she been gone so long 2277 01:56:45,119 --> 01:56:48,600 * just can't stand it no more 2278 01:56:53,039 --> 01:56:57,399 * Now I ain't got nobody 2279 01:56:57,479 --> 01:57:00,880 * And no place to go 2280 01:57:41,359 --> 01:57:44,920 * Yeah I think when she left me 2281 01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:48,640 * Yeah she went to somebody else 2282 01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,840 * Oh, I think when she left me 2283 01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:01,439 * Yeah she went to somebody else 2284 01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:10,079 * Now if she don't come back to me soon 2285 01:58:10,159 --> 01:58:13,560 * think I'm gonna leave myself 178335

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