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Announcer:
The following is a specialpresentation
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of the HBO Sportsdocumentary series
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"Legends & Legacies."
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Billie Jean King:
I had poor visionas a youngster
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and I just loved itwhen I got my glasses
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'cause I couldreally see clearly.
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Everybody at schoolwould always say,
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"Girls with glassesget no passes."
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I didn't like that.
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But I waspretty pragmatic.
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Okay?
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King:
I'll put those glasses onto play, that's for sure.
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Announcer:
Ladies and gentlemen,now our special guest.
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- Thank you.
- Thank you.
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Announcer:
As player, promoter,and innovator,
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she's done more to advancethe cause of women's sport
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than any man or womanbefore or since.
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A warm Wimbledon welcome,please, for Billie Jean King.
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( applause )
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King:
12 years old,I have an epiphany.
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If God gave methis gift,
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I was gonna doeverything in my power
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to make this worlda better place.
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The whole worldwas in tumult...
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and so was I.
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I was justgoing through hell.
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I was a feminist.I was proud of it.
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( camera shutters click )
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King:
I just had to win.It was just life and death.
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We tried again,but it was a lie.
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Little did I knowwhat was gonna followin my lifetime.
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A champion has got tosay to themselves,
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"I want the ballno matter what"
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and be willingto be at high risk.
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You just gotta do it.
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My mother was pregnant with me,
and my dad was in Virginia
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training to go to war.
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Betty Moffitt:
Well, Bill was in service,
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{\an8}and I just felt I should
name her Billie Jean
after her daddy,
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{\an8}not knowing if he was
going to come home.
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{\an8}King:
So that's how I got calledBillie Jean.
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{\an8}I love my name'cause it's different.
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( laughs )
I've always liked it.
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I'm just a basic kidfrom Long Beach, California.
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Middle America,
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family
pretty conservative.
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- ( siren blaring )
- King: My dad a firefighter, my mom a homemaker.
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It was fun to goto the firehouse.
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He would grab mein one arm
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and we'd go down the pole
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and I'd go, "Daddy, Daddy.
Let's do it again."
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He's the one that gives100 percent in sports.
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My dad was very hyperon the court
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and very inappropriate
sometimes,
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shall we say,
with his temper.
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When I was five,the guys wouldn't let me
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play out in the streetand my dad made them.
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And I held my own
just fine.
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One of the most exciting dayswas when my brother came homefrom the hospital.
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My mom put Randy downon the sofa and I'm like,
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"Oh, this is the greatest."
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Ever since I was a young boy,
she was always just "Sis."
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{\an8}It was a lot easier
to say than "Billie Jean."
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King:
It was just a typicalblue-collar family.
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It was very religious.
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Very.
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Loved going to churchon Sundays.
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Reverend Bob Richards, who wasan Olympic pole vaulter,
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had a sports storyin every sermon.
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He was just so motivating.
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He was unbelievable.
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We used to alwaysplay touch football
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out in the front yard.
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My mother called me inone day and said,
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"You can't playfootball anymore.
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I want you to be a ladyat all times,
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and playing footballis not being a lady."
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And I said,
"What does that mean?
What is a lady?"
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In fifth grade,my friend Susan Williams--
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who was the best tennis playerin Long Beach--
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asked me if I
wanted to play tennis,
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and I said,
"What's tennis?"
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She says,"Well, you get to run,
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you get to hit a ball,and you get to jump."
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"I'll try that.
I'll try that."
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So I think tennis,being a "sissy" sport--
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in the '50s particularly--my mom could handle that.
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To her it was more
of a feminine sport.
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My parentsmade me earn the moneyfor my first racket,
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so I went around
to neighbors and begged,
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and they gave me
these odd jobs.
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So we went to thissporting goods storein Long Beach.
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A guy comes up."What are you looking for?"
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And I said,
"Whatever $8.29 will buy."
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So I got this racketand I had my first lesson,
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and by the endof that lesson,
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I knew I'd found
what I wanted to do
with my life.
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She was very definite
about what she wanted to do.
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There wasn't
one question.
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"I found what I'm gonna do
with my life.
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I love this game.
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I wanna be the number one
player in the world."
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And I'm telling my mother
this as she's driving me home,
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and I was jumping upin the seat.
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I just kind of agreed
with her and said,
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"That'll be fine,
honey, if that's
what you want to do."
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She's more the killjoy
in the family,
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so I'm like,
"Mom, you don't get it.
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I really wanna do this."
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"That's fine, dear."
You know, as she's driving home,
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and,
"You've got piano lessons."
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I go to the L.A. Tennis Clubfor the first time.
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Very excited.My mom has sewn methese shorts.
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And now it's timefor the group photo,
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and the czar of tennis,
Perry T. Jones,
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looks at me and says,
"Hey, little girl.
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You can't be in the photobecause you're wearing shorts.
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You have to wear a skirtor a tennis dress."
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Because of our ignoranceand inexperience in the sport,
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we hadn't ever seen
a tennis dress until that day,
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and I started to understandwhat it was to be a girl
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and kind of beon the outside looking in.
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I have an epiphany
that I want to change things.
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I didn't like the factthat tennis was so elitist.
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I didn't see any
people of color in the game.
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It was just snooty,it was closed, it was rigid,
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and it was very clearthat unless I was number one,
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I wouldn't be listened to.
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But I always had
all these things
bubbling up in me.
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If God gave me this gift,
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I was gonna doeverything in my power
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to make this world
a better place.
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That's it.
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I would go to tournamentsevery weekend,
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and I get in the Dudley Cup
in Santa Monica, California.
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I end up winningthe 13-and-under,
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and I just rememberI had to get up
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and thank everybodyfor the first time,
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and then I realized
if I'm gonna be any good
in tennis,
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if I'm gonna be number one
like I want to be,
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I'm gonna have
to do this often.
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I watched aggressiveplayers--
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Darlene Hard,Althea Gibson,Louise Brough.
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Alice Marble helped mewhen I was 15, which was huge.
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She was justan all-time great.
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I'm seeingall these great champions,
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and I want to just be
better than they were.
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Every weekend when I wouldcome back from a tournament,
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Randy would actuallycount the trophies.
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He'd add them upand keep adding them.
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I loved it.It was tough, though,
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because sometimes peoplewould come up to me and say,
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"Oh, there's no wayyou can be number one.
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Have you ever seena number one playerwear glasses?"
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Uh-oh, I think
they might be right.
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But that didn't
deter me at all.
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I used to sleepwith my racket,
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and I would dreamabout Wimbledon.
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I loved Wimbledon.
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Gerald Williams,who was with the "Daily Mail,"
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took me up to the topof Centre Court when I arrived.
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And I thought,"It looks so small,
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but it looks intimate,and I like that."
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I belong here.
This is my home.
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Frank Deford:
Wimbledon is the beating heartof the tennis world.
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{\an8}All that tradition,
all that glory,
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{\an8}and, yes,
all that snobbishness.
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For Billie Jean,this was the Mecca.
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King:
My biggest thrill was '61.
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I won doubles
with Karen Hantze.
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We weren't seeded.
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She said,"Billie, we can win this."
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{\an8}I'm 17, she's 18.
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{\an8}We'd only playedtwo weeks before Wimbledon.
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She was right,
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and we just giggled our waythrough the tournament.
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Yes!
( screams, laughs )
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Deford:
The British fell for her.
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She wasthis chubby little thing
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with the hideous,tacky glasses.
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It was her energy
and her passion
that they loved.
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King:
We were the youngest teamto have ever
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won women's doublesat Wimbledon.
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Betty Moffitt:
Oh, we got all kindsof phone calls.
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I was at work
in the fire station.
Remember that?
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- Uh-huh.
- And they phoned.
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Yes, he did.
Someone did phone them.
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- Someone phoned me...
- Mm-hmm.
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and told me what
Billie Jean had done.
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King:
I'm getting all this attentionwhen I play at Wimbledon,
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and then I'm going back home,back to my real life.
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Tennis, at that time,was still a part-time gig.
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I'd go back to school
every September,
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Cal State L.A.
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I walk in the libraryat school
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and I see this guy,
and he is adorable.
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He's blond, he's gorgeous.
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Marcos Carriedo,
who was on the tennis team,
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kept telling me,"He's really smart
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and he plays on the team."
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{\an8}Marcos Carriedo,
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{\an8}for a couple of months,
was saying,
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{\an8}"Larry, I want you to meet
my doubles partner."
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I thought she wasthe cat's meow
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from the first timeI met her.
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King:
We just started spending timetogether all the time.
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I fell in love with himpretty quickly.
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He's the one that
made me into a feminist.
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We were walking along,hand in hand, pastthe tennis courts,
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and he said, "You know,you're a second-class citizen."
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I said, "What?"
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Larry King:
I pointed out thatI had a scholarship
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and she didn't.
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She was the equal
of the best player
on the men's team,
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and she didn't gether gas money.
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And he said,
"Why? Because you're a girl."
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All these feelings that hadbeen bubbling up in me--
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he broughteverything into focus.
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I really neededto go follow my dream,
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and I couldn't get the trainingI needed in college.
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I got this offerto go to Australia.
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She went to Australia
for four months to work
on her game,
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to be the best playershe could be.
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King:
The Australian guysare the ones who made my game.
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If I'd married a guywho was very different,
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ooh, I probably
would've stayed home.
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Well, in '65,we got married.
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It was a beautifulwedding.
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Larry King:
We were really young--I was 20 and she was 21.
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We had about $300
to our name.
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She worked
for the Parks Department
after school.
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King:
Larry was working at night,
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and I would take him lunchat 2:00 in the morning.
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Larry King:
It was a great life,and we helped each other.
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King:
Wimbledon, 1966.
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I was 22 years old,and I finally hadthe opportunity
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to be number onein the world.
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{\an8}Male commentator:
The ladies' final.
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{\an8}Here come the girls,coming onto the court.
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Female commentator:
Billie Jean King
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against Maria Bueno.
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The championship match
at Wimbledon in '66 was huge.
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King:
I step on the court,it's total commitment.
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It's no putzing around.
I was there.
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Female commentator:
Here's the little spunkyCalifornian
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with the spectacles.
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Frank Deford:
She was always justscampering all over the court.
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It was justconstant motion,
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and I think that was
so different
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and so much fun.
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( spectators clapping )
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King:
I would've liked to have beena little bit taller,
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but I had enough,
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and I could get down so wellbecause of my short legs.
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Male commentator:
So, it's the Americannumber one
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servingfor the championship.
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I was sitting
in the player's box
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chewing my nailsand watching Billie Jean.
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- ( screams )
- Male commentator:
That's it, she's won it.
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Billie Jean,who toured Australia
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in an effortto raise her game,
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has certainly workedreally hard for this triumphtoday.
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King:
First year I won singles,
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you know, you're justin a different place.
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Your head and your heart,
your gut--
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oh, it justtook my breath away.
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Reporter:
How does it feelto be the new champ?
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Well, I was very excited
right after,
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but right now I can hardly
believe I've won,
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and I probably won't realize it
until tomorrow.
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I presumed
that she was gonna
pursue her tennis,
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but I was pretty naive.
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My expectationswere we'd settle downand have a family.
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โช This is the dawningof the age of Aquarius... โช
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King:
I was pretty wiredin the '60s.
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I was interestedin what was going on.
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I think the women's movementwas probably
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one of the most
misunderstood movements.
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( chanting )
Equal pay for equal work!
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When do we want it?
Now!
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King:
The media, theyalways talked about
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burning brasor something.
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And, really, what it was
was about empowering women.
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Equality!
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Larry King:
The burning of brasjust went right by her,
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but once she
got the connect that,
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oh, this is about
why she couldn't play football.
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This istrying to move people
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toward equal payand equal treatment--
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then Billie Jeanunderstood it totally.
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Women:
Equality!
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( spectators clapping )
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King:
By then, I was number onein the world.
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I thought,"This is ridiculous.
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Look at all these peoplepaying money to comeand watch us.
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But we're not getting
any of it."
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Larry King:
Of course, being number onein the world in tennis
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wasn't a $14 million careerlike it is today.
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It was an activity that you didtill you got a real job.
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Deford:
Billie Jean grew upin a system
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where you had to pretendto be an amateur,
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{\an8}and everybody around her,including her brother,
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{\an8}who was a baseball player,
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was paid a dollarfor a dollar's work.
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You were supposedto play tennis for love,
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and this didn't work
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because the best playersneeded to be paid,
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so that money cameunder the table.
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It was called"shamateurism."
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{\an8}But in 1968, Wimbledon,
among others, said,
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{\an8}"We're gonna go pro.We're gonna go open."
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{\an8}Suddenly, every amateurof any consequence
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was a professional.
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What it means is
we finally started getting
prize money.
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But Larry thought,with open tennis,
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that the menwould squeeze the women out.
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He was right.
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I also had some other thingsweighing on my mind.
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( shouting, chanting )
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King:
During the late '60s,early '70s,
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the whole world
was in tumult...
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and so was I.
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I was just a lost soul.
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Usually, the courtwas my sanctuary.
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I was justgoing through hell.
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Larry King:
She always feels grouchyduring Wimbledon.
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There's a lot of pressure.
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It's not so much
that she takes it
out on me
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as that she
leaves me out of it.
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Like, she likes to get off
by herself and just think.
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King:
And I told Larry, "I don'tknow-- things aren't right."
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And I didn't want toget into exactly why.
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I'd think you'd
like to be together
and talk things out.
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By then, I knew I had
some interest in women.
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And I'm going,
"Oh, no.
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I don't understand
what's going on."
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I felt likeI was betraying him.
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I was a mess.
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I had no thought
to anything else
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other than
being with Billie Jean,
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even though our lives
were taking us seriously
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more and more
into separate space.
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King:
Oh, I thinkhe was getting inklings,
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but I couldn't evenget the words out.
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I was so ashamed.
I couldn't even say "gay"
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or "homosexual"
or something to that--
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or "lesbian" to Larry.
I couldn't even get it out.
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I couldn't even get it out
to anybody, let alone him.
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I couldn't even get it out
for myself.
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To speak about beinggay or lesbian was a no-no,
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and if it was talked about
at all publicly,
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there wasso much hostility.
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Besides all this,
we're in the beginning
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of women's professional
tennis.
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( applause )
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Deford:
Women's tennisnever had the cachet
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that men's tennis had.
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When it came time
for the guys to make money
in an honest way,
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they had no interest
in bringing the women along.
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So you take someonelike Jack Kramer,
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who ran the big tournamentin Southern California.
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In Jack's eyes, the "dames"
didn't put anybody in the seats,
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so he said, "All right,we'll give 'em 10 percent
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and they can fill ina few hours in the afternoon."
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{\an8}The ratio was something like
the men got 12,000,
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{\an8}the women got
about $1,500 for winning,
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and for Billie Jean,that was not right.
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Deford:
She decided, "We've gottaset up our own equivalency
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of what the men are doing."
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{\an8}Unless we got together
as a group,
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{\an8}we weren't gonna have
any power or say
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as to what prize money
was available for us.
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Deford: Gladys Heldmanput together a magazinecalled "World Tennis,"
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and Gladys deriveda lot of power from this.
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She was who
Billie Jean turned to
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when it was time
to try to strike out
on their own.
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Two other players-- Nancy Richey
and Rosie Casals-- and I
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went to Gladys Heldman
and talked to her
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about having a tour.
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I said, "We've gotta havea contract with you, Gladys."
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And she goes,
"Okay, $1."
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So we signed a symbolic$1 contract with her
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just to get started.
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Deford:
When Billie Jeanand the eight other players
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became pros for $1,
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the USLTA could've said,"You're out of here, ladies."
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It's hard to imagine now
that tennis federations
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absolutely
controlled players.
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So it wasn't justthat they were rebelling,
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they were riskingabsolute banishmentfrom tennis.
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King:
The women were scaredbecause the USLTA
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told us they weren'tgonna let us play
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in any tournamentsanymore.
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They said, "Well, we'regonna lose everything."
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I said,
"We've got bupkis.
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We've got nothing.
We have nothing to lose."
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Deford:
They couldn't just be
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these wild nine womenscreaming, "We're pros!"
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They had to have
some substance,
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and the substance
came from Virginia Slims
and Philip Morris.
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Of course, it's an ironythat it was a cigarette
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which promotedthis athletic venture.
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As much as Billie Jean
hated smoking,
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she felt this
extraordinary loyalty
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and an obligationto Virginia Slims.
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King:
I knew what they could dofor marketing our sport.
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I knew they hadthe most money.
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And bottom line,
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we needed the moneyfor our tour to succeed.
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We really stepped it up
after we started
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the Virginia Slims Tour.
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Deford:
Billie Jeanwas the whole act.
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She had to doall the promoting.
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She was so clever
about playing up to the press.
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Aren't men really better
tennis players than women?
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I don't know.
An awful lot of fellas
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have been coming out
to our tournaments.
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I don't know if it's
to watch the lace panties
or what, but...
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There was a certain kind of
flirtation that went on,
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trying to make
this crazy act fly.
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King: So the USTA reactedby starting their ownprofessional tour,
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and the Virginia Slims Tour
is a professional tour,
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so now we're divided.
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And it just came downto who had the goodsto survive.
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Chris Evert was the best thing
that happened to women's tennis.
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When she playedat the '71 U.S. Open,
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it was unbelievablethe coverage she got.
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Reporter:
What's it been like now thatyou're a tennis celebrity?
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Chris Evert:
I was just a shy little kid.
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{\an8}During the match,
I'd be dreading the interviews
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{\an8}rather than my opponent.
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{\an8}Deford:
Chrissie was adorable.
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{\an8}She was "Miss America Pie."
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King:
She has the lookslike the girl next door.
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People like that
in America.
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Commentator:
This crowd has beenall for Evert,
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the little girl.
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Now we could learn
to love women's tennis
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because Chrissie Evertwas gonna be part of it.
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Stage presence
and extremely competitive.
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I went, "Whoo-hoo, I think
we have the next champion."
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I think Billie Jean
understood me right
from day one.
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The other tennis players,
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many of themwouldn't even talk to me.
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King:
One of the biggest reasonsthat the other players
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were having trouble
was because Chris didn't
come on our tour
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and she was getting
all the attention
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and we're the ones
who paved the way.
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Evert:
My dad made that decision.I had no say.
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All I knew wasthat Virginia Slims
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were sort ofthe "rebel circuit,"
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and the USTA
had threatened anyone
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who joined
the Virginia Slims Tour.
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We had this vision,
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and if she wasn't gonna
be a part of it,
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we probably
weren't gonna make it.
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{\an8}Commentator:
No doubt that this tennis matchhas created more excitement
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{\an8}than any match at Forest Hillsin a long time.
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When I played Chris in '71,
that was the only time I've
cried before a match.
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Commentator:
Billie Jean knowsthat if Chrissie
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gets intothis match at all,
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13,000 people will beriding right with her.
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King:
If she won,
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the Virginia Slims Tourcould fail.
I couldn't take a chance
that it could happen.
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( spectators cheering )
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Commentator:
Billie Jean is notgonna let go today.
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She wants to send this kidback to school quick.
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I'm really glad I won.
( laughs )
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Commentator:
That's it. Billie Jeanis the winner.
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Deford:
It was perfect becauseit built women's tennis up,
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but it didn't allow
Chris to run away
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with women's tennis
at that time.
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She's a personality now,
and I think that's why those
people were there,
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and I think that's great
for tennis.
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Deford:
Billie Jean had the foresightto tell the other players,
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"Hitch your wagonto this star
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'cause she's gonnatake us forward."
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Evert:
When I joined the Slims Circuittwo years later,
485
00:23:44,557 --> 00:23:45,956
it was the right time.
486
00:23:46,025 --> 00:23:50,928
Everybody was ready to form
into one professional circuit.
487
00:23:50,997 --> 00:23:53,397
The bottom line is
we have to be together.
488
00:23:53,466 --> 00:23:55,166
We have to be
together in this.
489
00:23:55,235 --> 00:23:56,734
To the queen of tennis.
490
00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:58,269
I bet you
my head's too big.
491
00:23:58,338 --> 00:23:59,637
( reporters clapping )
492
00:23:59,706 --> 00:24:03,373
In 1971, Billie Jean
was winning $100,000
in prize money.
493
00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:05,342
- Richard Nixon: Hello?
- Hello, Mr. President?
494
00:24:05,411 --> 00:24:08,645
Yes, I just wantedto congratulate you on the--
495
00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:11,949
I'm glad to seea fellow Californiangets over $100,000.
496
00:24:12,018 --> 00:24:13,717
Well, thanks
very much.
497
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:16,554
Larry King:
I ran eight or ninetournaments that year,
498
00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:19,155
so I was totally busy.
499
00:24:19,224 --> 00:24:22,897
It's a wonder that I managed
to get Billie Jean pregnant.
500
00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:29,766
King:
Every woman has her reason.
501
00:24:29,835 --> 00:24:31,335
No one ever
takes that lightly.
502
00:24:31,404 --> 00:24:34,572
You signed that
"We had an abortion"
declaration in "Ms."
503
00:24:34,641 --> 00:24:36,273
I knew we'd have to
get into this.
504
00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:39,076
King:
"Ms." magazine was trying toget as many women as possible
505
00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:40,944
to say they had
an abortion.
506
00:24:41,013 --> 00:24:42,979
I don't think it's
really anybody's business.
507
00:24:43,048 --> 00:24:45,349
Yeah, but on the other hand,
you signed the public
declaration.
508
00:24:45,418 --> 00:24:46,884
Oh, I know.
I had an abortion.
509
00:24:46,953 --> 00:24:49,319
- Yeah.
- But I don't think
the reason--
510
00:24:49,388 --> 00:24:53,691
anyone has to know.
I can say that it was
not because of my career.
511
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,593
Larry's the one
that entered my name,
512
00:24:56,662 --> 00:24:58,763
and he told me
after the fact.
513
00:24:58,832 --> 00:25:00,297
I was not happy.
514
00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:02,366
Larry King:She was really lukewarm
515
00:25:02,435 --> 00:25:04,435
to having her namein "Ms." magazine,
516
00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:06,504
even though she wantedto support them,
517
00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:09,940
and she feltit was a woman's choice.
518
00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:12,343
I thought the greater good
519
00:25:12,412 --> 00:25:14,912
was to standwith the other women.
520
00:25:14,981 --> 00:25:16,480
I encouraged her
to do it,
521
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:20,284
and the only objectionthat she had
522
00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:24,421
was that her motherwould find out thatshe had an abortion.
523
00:25:24,490 --> 00:25:27,858
I like to tell my parents first.
That's important to me.
524
00:25:27,927 --> 00:25:29,360
Do you want to
have children one day?
525
00:25:29,429 --> 00:25:30,794
Yes, I do.
526
00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:32,329
I wanted children.
527
00:25:32,398 --> 00:25:35,099
I didn't want to be marriedto Larry anymore.
528
00:25:35,168 --> 00:25:38,169
I wanted a divorcein '69.
529
00:25:38,238 --> 00:25:39,740
Larry didn't,
530
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:43,006
and I didn't want to bringa child into the world
531
00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:48,215
when our relationship
was, um...
532
00:25:50,083 --> 00:25:52,582
not right.
533
00:25:52,651 --> 00:25:56,787
{\an8}If she had these thoughts,
she never expressed them to me,
534
00:25:56,856 --> 00:25:59,256
{\an8}or I never recognized them
if she expressed them.
535
00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:02,660
I didn't hear them, which is,
I guess, a male trait--
536
00:26:02,729 --> 00:26:04,595
you don't hear
what you don't want to hear.
537
00:26:04,664 --> 00:26:08,432
We come here as women
who earn 58 cents
538
00:26:08,501 --> 00:26:10,433
for every dollar
earned by men.
539
00:26:10,502 --> 00:26:13,904
( chanting )
Hey, hey, what do you say?
Ratify the ERA.
540
00:26:13,973 --> 00:26:16,540
King:
I was a feminist.I was proud of it.
541
00:26:16,609 --> 00:26:19,110
I used to have discussionswith Gloria Steinem and others.
542
00:26:19,179 --> 00:26:21,212
...projects that allow women
to maximize
543
00:26:21,281 --> 00:26:22,780
their chances for change...
544
00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,215
King:
Feminism to me--
545
00:26:24,284 --> 00:26:26,216
and I think it meant differentthings to everybody--
546
00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:28,986
to me, it just means
equal opportunity for
boys and girls.
547
00:26:29,055 --> 00:26:31,522
And girls are underserved.
It's very easy.
548
00:26:31,591 --> 00:26:34,725
I testified on Capitol Hill
549
00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:36,460
on behalf of Title IX,
550
00:26:36,529 --> 00:26:39,396
and everybody thinksit's about sports and it isn't.
551
00:26:39,465 --> 00:26:40,932
It was about everything.
552
00:26:41,001 --> 00:26:42,532
Deford:
Title IX is very simple--
553
00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:46,470
if the men get this in school,the women get this in school.
554
00:26:46,539 --> 00:26:48,205
They gotta havethe same amount of money.
555
00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:49,773
Basically, that's it.
556
00:26:49,842 --> 00:26:51,742
I think it's fair to say
that Title IX
557
00:26:51,811 --> 00:26:53,377
was absolutely
revolutionary.
558
00:26:53,446 --> 00:26:55,379
As far as budgets,
it's 99-to-one
559
00:26:55,448 --> 00:26:58,548
in favor of boys' programs
in the school system.
560
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:01,385
Deford:
Billie became not onlya leader in tennis,
561
00:27:01,454 --> 00:27:03,486
but a symbolin the women's movement.
562
00:27:03,555 --> 00:27:05,356
How do you think
that it got that way
to begin with--
563
00:27:05,425 --> 00:27:06,957
that there was such
a discrepancy?
564
00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:08,892
Because men are the ones
who have the control.
565
00:27:08,961 --> 00:27:12,529
And the word "strident"
was applied to her,
566
00:27:12,598 --> 00:27:17,101
I think, in the same way
that any African-American
567
00:27:17,170 --> 00:27:19,170
at that time
who voiced themselves
568
00:27:19,239 --> 00:27:20,671
was being called
"arrogant."
569
00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:23,808
"Billie Jeanwas strident."
570
00:27:23,877 --> 00:27:25,442
Commentator:
That's it.
571
00:27:25,511 --> 00:27:28,545
King:
Everybody knew who I wasin 1972, '73.
572
00:27:28,614 --> 00:27:32,586
Those were big yearsfor the tour, for feminism,for me.
573
00:27:37,689 --> 00:27:40,658
Deford:
The "Sports Illustrated"Sportsman of the Year Award
574
00:27:40,727 --> 00:27:42,760
was very much givingthe magazine's
575
00:27:42,829 --> 00:27:45,730
stamp of approvalto someone as a person
576
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:47,732
and not just a player.
577
00:27:47,801 --> 00:27:50,767
'72 was a tremendous pushfrom women
578
00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:52,902
who thought thatBillie Jean King deserved it.
579
00:27:52,971 --> 00:27:57,742
A lot of men feltthat John Wooden wasthe obvious choice.
580
00:27:57,811 --> 00:27:59,743
{\an8}It had always
gone to a man.
581
00:27:59,812 --> 00:28:02,044
{\an8}I don't think a woman
had ever been seriously
considered.
582
00:28:02,113 --> 00:28:05,815
Andre Laguerre, who wasthe managing editor, passed mein the hall and he said,
583
00:28:05,884 --> 00:28:09,353
"What's this I hearabout Billie Jean Kingbeing a lesbian?"
584
00:28:09,422 --> 00:28:11,889
And I said,
"Andre, come on.
585
00:28:11,958 --> 00:28:15,859
You know they say that
about all women athletes."
586
00:28:15,928 --> 00:28:16,960
That's all I said.
587
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,997
{\an8}Finally, you know,he "split the baby,"
588
00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:22,366
{\an8}but someone had broachedthe subject with him
589
00:28:22,435 --> 00:28:25,101
{\an8}and he was preparedto pull her out.
590
00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:28,805
It's the first time
"Sports Illustrated" has ever
honored a woman athlete,
591
00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:32,243
so, for me,
I feel fantastic about it.
592
00:28:32,312 --> 00:28:34,411
Of course, at this time
in my life--
593
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,684
it comes at
a really great time.
594
00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:41,985
King:
When I first metMarilyn Barnett,
595
00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:44,287
I met heras my hairdresser.
596
00:28:44,356 --> 00:28:46,958
I enjoyed talking to her,
but I had no idea
597
00:28:47,027 --> 00:28:48,629
we were gonna
have an affair.
598
00:28:49,895 --> 00:28:53,864
She did travel with methe year of 1973.
599
00:28:53,933 --> 00:28:57,534
Larry King:
The first time I met Marilyn,I didn't think much about it.
600
00:28:57,603 --> 00:29:00,604
Billie Jeanhad always needed somebodyto tour with her,
601
00:29:00,673 --> 00:29:03,106
carrying her bagsand answering the phones.
602
00:29:03,175 --> 00:29:09,046
Later on, it became obviousthat Marilyn was more thana bag carrier.
603
00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:11,415
King:
She was a refuge for me.
604
00:29:11,484 --> 00:29:13,984
It was fun justto have a place
605
00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:16,687
that wasn'ta part of my usual world.
606
00:29:16,756 --> 00:29:18,756
Larry King:
If that's whereher life took her,
607
00:29:18,825 --> 00:29:21,324
then I still loved her.
608
00:29:21,393 --> 00:29:24,795
My love was not conditioned
on her patting my head.
609
00:29:24,864 --> 00:29:28,366
Evert:
When I saw Larrysitting with Marilyn
610
00:29:28,435 --> 00:29:29,799
watching Billie Jean,
611
00:29:29,868 --> 00:29:33,204
I was justtrying to figure out--how did it work?
612
00:29:33,273 --> 00:29:34,638
Nobody was makingany judgments,
613
00:29:34,707 --> 00:29:36,410
and everybody
was cool with it.
614
00:29:38,043 --> 00:29:39,810
Larry King:
I never worried about itas long as it didn't
615
00:29:39,879 --> 00:29:42,947
intrude on my relationshipwith Billie Jean.
616
00:29:43,016 --> 00:29:45,516
She was beautiful,
she was sweet,
617
00:29:45,585 --> 00:29:48,685
but I started to seeparts of her thatI didn't like--
618
00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:51,221
being selfishand extremely controlling--
619
00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:54,591
so I startedgetting scared.
620
00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:58,465
I needed to wake up,
but I was right in the throes
of playing tennis.
621
00:30:03,169 --> 00:30:07,838
A lot was happening.1973 was a real pivotal year.
622
00:30:07,907 --> 00:30:11,908
{\an8}A few years earlier,the men had formed the ATP.
623
00:30:11,977 --> 00:30:14,311
{\an8}I said, "I hope you'reincluding the women."
624
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:16,650
They said,
"You must be joking."
625
00:30:18,084 --> 00:30:19,483
Deford:
You know, she camefrom a union family,
626
00:30:19,552 --> 00:30:23,153
and I think she understood
that if the men players
had a union,
627
00:30:23,222 --> 00:30:26,456
then it was pretty damn
important for the women, too.
628
00:30:26,525 --> 00:30:29,826
We had this meeting in London,
"Okay, we're gonna vote,"
629
00:30:29,895 --> 00:30:32,964
and lo and behold,
we had the Women's Tennis
Association--
630
00:30:33,033 --> 00:30:35,098
the WTA.
631
00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:38,202
I was thrilled that the womencould truly join each other
632
00:30:38,271 --> 00:30:41,075
and make usmuch stronger.
633
00:30:42,808 --> 00:30:46,476
Deford:
She's putting a uniontogether at night,
634
00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:49,980
and then she'll go out
and play matches during the day.
635
00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:52,182
{\an8}( spectators applauding )
636
00:30:52,251 --> 00:30:53,917
{\an8}Commentator:
Billie Jean, of course,
637
00:30:53,986 --> 00:30:56,787
{\an8}is about to attempt to createa postwar record,
638
00:30:56,856 --> 00:30:58,455
her fifth Wimbledon final.
639
00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:00,924
Evert:
When I walked on the courtwith Billie Jean,
640
00:31:00,993 --> 00:31:03,828
I didn't give myselfmuch of a chance.
641
00:31:03,897 --> 00:31:06,196
( spectators applauding )
642
00:31:06,265 --> 00:31:07,364
Evert:
She was at the peakof her game.
643
00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:09,270
Yeah, I was intimidated.
644
00:31:10,770 --> 00:31:12,603
Commentator:
It's out, and there'sthe championship
645
00:31:12,672 --> 00:31:14,708
for Billie Jean.
646
00:31:16,242 --> 00:31:18,876
Deford:
She was going outand winning at Wimbledon--
647
00:31:18,945 --> 00:31:22,647
mixed, doublesand singles--
648
00:31:22,716 --> 00:31:25,382
and created a union, too.
649
00:31:25,451 --> 00:31:28,088
And on the seventh day,
Billie rested.
650
00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:33,257
King:
That was a thrilling year,'73, when I won all three.
651
00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:36,297
Yeah, oh, yeah.
I had to play that guy,
Bobby Riggs, also.
652
00:31:38,964 --> 00:31:41,064
Bobby Riggs:
American women are the mostprivileged group
653
00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:43,767
of all time in history
and they're still not satisfied.
654
00:31:43,836 --> 00:31:45,702
King:
I used to hearall the Bobby Riggs stories.
655
00:31:45,771 --> 00:31:47,505
I grew up
in Southern California
where he grew up.
656
00:31:47,574 --> 00:31:50,141
And he--
( laughs )
657
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:51,342
he was born a hustler.
658
00:31:51,411 --> 00:31:53,577
He was a "PK."
He was a preacher's kid.
659
00:31:53,646 --> 00:31:55,913
Either they follow Daddyinto the ministry
660
00:31:55,982 --> 00:31:58,882
or they go offin a completely differentdirection,
661
00:31:58,951 --> 00:32:02,386
and that was the kind of PKthat Bobby was.
662
00:32:02,455 --> 00:32:03,520
He was a little guy,
663
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:06,490
and in '39,he swept Wimbledon.
664
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,663
He won it more up here
than he did anywhere else.
665
00:32:10,664 --> 00:32:12,129
He got into women's tennis,
666
00:32:12,198 --> 00:32:15,899
and this was the supremehustle of all time.
667
00:32:15,968 --> 00:32:18,736
King:
He wanted to makea lot of money.
668
00:32:18,805 --> 00:32:20,271
You know,when we started the tour,
669
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:21,839
we startedto get some attention,
670
00:32:21,908 --> 00:32:24,745
and Bobby Riggs
wanted to get in on it.
671
00:32:26,979 --> 00:32:31,315
Deford:
He seemed to getthis ragtag army of men
672
00:32:31,384 --> 00:32:33,751
who rejectedthe women's movement.
673
00:32:33,820 --> 00:32:38,489
He became an icon,
and he played it to a hilt.
674
00:32:38,558 --> 00:32:39,656
I'm fighting for the guys.
675
00:32:39,725 --> 00:32:41,225
They're all gonna
get married in the next--
676
00:32:41,294 --> 00:32:42,827
when they get
20, 21 or two,
677
00:32:42,896 --> 00:32:44,928
and we gotta stop
those women right now, see.
678
00:32:44,997 --> 00:32:47,031
Deford:
Riggs, beinga very clever guy,
679
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,233
he wanted
Billie Jean King.
680
00:32:49,302 --> 00:32:53,304
It was assumed thatif he was this loudmouth
681
00:32:53,373 --> 00:32:55,138
speaking out for men,
682
00:32:55,207 --> 00:32:58,509
then that's what
she had to be for women,
683
00:32:58,578 --> 00:33:00,244
which wasn't
the case at all.
684
00:33:00,313 --> 00:33:03,046
I didn't want to get
caught up in this sideshow.
685
00:33:03,115 --> 00:33:05,048
Next challenge, Matt.
Next challenge.
686
00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:08,185
King: He's 55 years old,and from an athleticpoint of view,
687
00:33:08,254 --> 00:33:10,187
it's no big deal
even if I beat him.
688
00:33:10,256 --> 00:33:13,624
If I lose,people can start using this
689
00:33:13,693 --> 00:33:17,228
as a reason
not to want women
690
00:33:17,297 --> 00:33:19,196
to have equal opportunity.
691
00:33:19,265 --> 00:33:21,465
When Billie wouldn't have
anything to do with him,
692
00:33:21,534 --> 00:33:24,435
the only person who wason the level with her
693
00:33:24,504 --> 00:33:26,736
was Margaret Courtof Australia.
694
00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:29,506
Commentator:
Margaret Court,who has won more major
695
00:33:29,575 --> 00:33:32,109
tennis championshipsthan anyone else.
696
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:36,146
Deford:
Maybe Margaret wasthe marginally better player,
697
00:33:36,215 --> 00:33:39,916
but whatever that meter is
where people's popularity
is known,
698
00:33:39,985 --> 00:33:43,386
Margaret Court was down here
and Billie Jean was up here.
699
00:33:43,455 --> 00:33:47,924
Evert:
You know, Margaret wasn'ta real women's libber, anyway.
700
00:33:47,993 --> 00:33:50,794
She didn't have a cluewhat the significanceof this match was.
701
00:33:50,863 --> 00:33:54,068
She thought she was
just playing this old guy
for a lot of money.
702
00:33:55,302 --> 00:33:56,633
King:
Margaret told me,
703
00:33:56,702 --> 00:33:58,702
"Oh, I'm gonna playBobby Riggs, by the way."
704
00:33:58,771 --> 00:34:01,338
And I said to her,
"Whatever you do,
705
00:34:01,407 --> 00:34:03,807
promise me
you're gonna beat him."
706
00:34:03,876 --> 00:34:07,477
Deford:
He caught her off guardby presenting her
707
00:34:07,546 --> 00:34:10,880
the flowers for Mother's Day
at the net at the beginning.
708
00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:16,220
King:
Margaret lost the matchwhen she curtsied.
709
00:34:16,289 --> 00:34:18,659
Oh-hh. I said,
"How could she do that?"
710
00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:23,531
And after that,
it was just disaster
written all over it.
711
00:34:26,999 --> 00:34:30,500
For having won
more Grand Slam titles
than anybody, she choked.
712
00:34:30,569 --> 00:34:33,236
{\an8}Commentator: It's over.Bobby Riggs wins the point,the set, and the match,
713
00:34:33,305 --> 00:34:36,306
{\an8}beating the oddsmakersand Margaret Court.
714
00:34:36,375 --> 00:34:38,442
When she lost--
( smacks armrest )
715
00:34:38,511 --> 00:34:41,846
that was it.
I had to play him.
716
00:34:41,915 --> 00:34:44,114
Margaret, I feel,
had the most to lose.
717
00:34:44,183 --> 00:34:45,382
Now that she went ahead
and lost,
718
00:34:45,451 --> 00:34:46,817
I feel like
I have something to gain.
719
00:34:46,886 --> 00:34:50,421
She's got to make it right now
for women's tennis
720
00:34:50,490 --> 00:34:53,023
because Margaret Court
let all the women down
all over the world.
721
00:34:53,092 --> 00:34:55,492
Reporter:
How are you gonna preparefor this match?
722
00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:58,763
King:
The contract was September 20that the Astrodome.
723
00:34:58,832 --> 00:35:00,231
Primetime television.
724
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:01,966
$100,000,winner-take-all.
725
00:35:02,035 --> 00:35:03,667
$100,000 winner-take-all?
726
00:35:03,736 --> 00:35:05,903
I'm known as the greatest
match player of all time.
727
00:35:05,972 --> 00:35:07,738
Any time they play
for big money,
728
00:35:07,807 --> 00:35:09,844
everybody'll tell you,
you gotta go with Bobby Riggs.
729
00:35:12,945 --> 00:35:15,780
I think Bobby enjoyed everything
that led up to the match.
730
00:35:15,849 --> 00:35:18,686
He was baskingin that limelight.
731
00:35:19,852 --> 00:35:21,586
All the ladiesthat he got,
732
00:35:21,655 --> 00:35:24,625
all the hype,all the attention.
733
00:35:26,759 --> 00:35:28,929
He had everybody going.
734
00:35:30,830 --> 00:35:35,132
Billie Jean realized
that Bobby was gonna try
a lot of things.
735
00:35:35,201 --> 00:35:38,134
King:
I knew howBobby Riggs played.
736
00:35:38,203 --> 00:35:41,037
He hit a lot of spinand he hit a lot of lobs.
737
00:35:41,106 --> 00:35:43,608
Ladies just don't
know how to put the ball
where I put 'em
738
00:35:43,677 --> 00:35:44,942
with the stuff
I put on the ball.
739
00:35:45,011 --> 00:35:46,277
I had to be ready
740
00:35:46,346 --> 00:35:49,213
and practiced about
350 overheads a day.
741
00:35:49,282 --> 00:35:52,849
And as each day goes by,
I get calmer and calmer.
742
00:35:52,918 --> 00:35:55,085
- I think I'm better.
- Well, what makes you think
that I won't be able
743
00:35:55,154 --> 00:35:57,221
to psych you out of the match
just like I did Margaret?
744
00:35:57,290 --> 00:35:58,422
Now what makes you
think that?
745
00:35:58,491 --> 00:36:00,057
I'm not Margaret Court.
I love pressure.
746
00:36:00,126 --> 00:36:01,458
You can try to psych me
all you want.
747
00:36:01,527 --> 00:36:03,327
Some people
in professional tennis
748
00:36:03,396 --> 00:36:05,796
are mortified
at the circus atmosphere
749
00:36:05,865 --> 00:36:07,334
surrounding this match.
750
00:36:09,435 --> 00:36:13,037
Deford:
I can't thinkof anything like it
751
00:36:13,106 --> 00:36:15,839
in the history of sports.
752
00:36:15,908 --> 00:36:19,710
It was all this
women versus men,
753
00:36:19,779 --> 00:36:21,212
and people are wearingbuttons--
754
00:36:21,281 --> 00:36:23,881
"I'm for Billie Jean,""I'm for Bobby."
755
00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:25,682
And it is going to be
the battle of the sexes.
756
00:36:25,751 --> 00:36:27,885
Don't let
anybody tell you
it's any different.
757
00:36:27,954 --> 00:36:30,621
King:
There were a lot of battlesgoing on behind the scenes.
758
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:33,524
One of them was
I didn't wanna play this match
759
00:36:33,593 --> 00:36:35,029
if Jack Kramer
was in the booth.
760
00:36:36,329 --> 00:36:38,529
Rosie Casals:
When ABC selected Jack Kramer
761
00:36:38,598 --> 00:36:42,299
to be the commentatorwith Howard Cosell and myself,
762
00:36:42,368 --> 00:36:44,068
Billie Jean
definitely said no.
763
00:36:44,137 --> 00:36:46,937
She was still mad
at Jack Kramer
764
00:36:47,006 --> 00:36:49,205
going back several years
765
00:36:49,274 --> 00:36:52,843
when he had run the big
Southern California
tournament
766
00:36:52,912 --> 00:36:56,848
and wanted to givethe women players a pittance.
767
00:36:56,917 --> 00:36:58,915
She never got over that.
768
00:36:58,984 --> 00:37:00,917
King:
He didn't believein women's tennis,
769
00:37:00,986 --> 00:37:02,286
so why should he bea part of this match?
770
00:37:02,355 --> 00:37:03,921
He doesn't believe
in half of the match.
771
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:07,658
She said, "Larry, call Roone.
Tell him the match is off."
772
00:37:07,727 --> 00:37:11,027
Deford:
Roone Arledgeis the most powerful
773
00:37:11,096 --> 00:37:14,197
and innovativesports television impresario.
774
00:37:14,266 --> 00:37:16,834
I don't think Roonehad the foggiest idea
775
00:37:16,903 --> 00:37:19,504
that Billie Jean was prepared
to pull out of the whole thing
776
00:37:19,573 --> 00:37:21,805
if he kept Jack
in the booth.
777
00:37:21,874 --> 00:37:24,575
I'm not playing.
Either he goes, I go.
778
00:37:24,644 --> 00:37:26,377
Roone was fit to be tied.
779
00:37:26,446 --> 00:37:28,078
"No athlete'sgonna tell me
780
00:37:28,147 --> 00:37:30,213
who we're gonna haveas a commentator."
781
00:37:30,282 --> 00:37:34,118
King:
This is one timeI had some leverage.
782
00:37:34,187 --> 00:37:37,721
It was kind of exhilarating
and, like...
783
00:37:37,790 --> 00:37:39,456
empowering.
784
00:37:39,525 --> 00:37:42,426
Larry King:
Billie Jean had justfaced him down,
785
00:37:42,495 --> 00:37:45,195
and Roone recognized itand folded.
786
00:37:45,264 --> 00:37:48,466
{\an8}Announcer:
Live from the Astrodomein Houston, Texas,
787
00:37:48,535 --> 00:37:50,801
the Tennis Battleof the Sexes--
788
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:54,504
Billie Jean Kingvs. Bobby Riggs.
789
00:37:54,573 --> 00:37:56,474
{\an8}I think probab
Bobby Riggs will win it.
790
00:37:56,543 --> 00:37:59,177
{\an8}I think Billie Jean King
is an excellent player.
791
00:37:59,246 --> 00:38:00,844
{\an8}I saw Bobby beat Margaret,
792
00:38:00,913 --> 00:38:02,980
{\an8}and I think that he's really
a tough player,
793
00:38:03,049 --> 00:38:05,049
{\an8}so I'd have to give him
the edge over Billie Jean.
794
00:38:05,118 --> 00:38:07,584
Oh, I was such an idiot
in those days.
795
00:38:07,653 --> 00:38:09,620
I laugh when I see myself.I laugh.
796
00:38:09,689 --> 00:38:13,156
I go, "You know,
I-- I've changed."
797
00:38:13,225 --> 00:38:15,959
Howard Cosell:
What a scene it is--the Houston Astrodome.
798
00:38:16,028 --> 00:38:19,763
A wild scene almost reminiscentof college football.
799
00:38:19,832 --> 00:38:21,832
Casals:
I'm up in the boothwith Howard Cosell
800
00:38:21,901 --> 00:38:24,534
{\an8}realizing how bigthis was.
801
00:38:24,603 --> 00:38:30,274
Deford:
It was part circus, it waspart political convention,
802
00:38:30,343 --> 00:38:32,375
it was part spectacular.
803
00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:35,846
Cosell:
More than 30,000 peopleare in this arena
804
00:38:35,915 --> 00:38:38,716
for an all-time recordtennis audience anywhere...
805
00:38:38,785 --> 00:38:40,217
King:
My parents were there.You know how often
806
00:38:40,286 --> 00:38:42,619
my parents came to tennis?Rarely.
807
00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:44,988
We know that Billie Jean
can take Bobby to camp,
808
00:38:45,057 --> 00:38:48,295
and that's why we're here--
to watch her win this big one.
809
00:38:53,065 --> 00:38:56,234
Deford:
Billie Jean showed upin this sedan chair
810
00:38:56,303 --> 00:38:57,935
with this glisteningoutfit
811
00:38:58,004 --> 00:39:02,272
that looked likeshe'd come from Las Vegas.
812
00:39:02,341 --> 00:39:04,475
King:
Jerry Perenchio,the promoter,
813
00:39:04,544 --> 00:39:06,610
didn't thinkI'd get on it.
814
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:08,782
Well, a feminist
can understand show business.
815
00:39:09,816 --> 00:39:10,848
Deford:
And Riggs comes out
816
00:39:10,917 --> 00:39:14,618
with all kinds of beautifulwomen surrounding him,
817
00:39:14,687 --> 00:39:16,887
and Billie Jean
gives him a pig.
818
00:39:16,956 --> 00:39:19,323
Cosell:
Look at thatmale chauvinist pig.
819
00:39:19,392 --> 00:39:22,659
The whole thing takes on
almost a surreal atmosphere.
820
00:39:22,728 --> 00:39:25,529
Cosell:
And so the two playersare out on the court.
821
00:39:25,598 --> 00:39:27,999
King:
My plan A was to besuper aggressive--
822
00:39:28,068 --> 00:39:30,534
get the point over with.
823
00:39:30,603 --> 00:39:32,135
And then I thought,"You know what?
824
00:39:32,204 --> 00:39:35,539
That doesn't feel right.
I think I'm gonna go to plan B."
825
00:39:35,608 --> 00:39:37,375
Cosell:
They have started the match.
826
00:39:37,444 --> 00:39:39,577
I was gonna make himrun...
827
00:39:39,646 --> 00:39:42,046
and run and run and run.
828
00:39:42,115 --> 00:39:44,015
I don't care,whatever it takes.
829
00:39:44,084 --> 00:39:45,181
I'm gonna beat you.
830
00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:47,318
- Cosell: Look at that.
- Casals: Fabulous shot.
831
00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:49,653
Cosell:
She's got him running.
832
00:39:49,722 --> 00:39:51,988
Larry King:
He hadn't preparedfor Billie Jean,
833
00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:55,192
and she was cold, cool,and determined,
834
00:39:55,261 --> 00:39:57,562
and Bobby was sweatinglike a pig.
835
00:39:57,631 --> 00:39:59,896
And Bobby,
he's in trouble.
836
00:39:59,965 --> 00:40:02,200
Cosell:
He's fightingfor his tennis life now.
837
00:40:02,269 --> 00:40:04,035
He didn't know
how to beat her.
838
00:40:04,104 --> 00:40:06,803
She just manhandled him.
839
00:40:06,872 --> 00:40:09,039
I mean, it wasa complete rout.
840
00:40:09,108 --> 00:40:10,407
{\an8}( cheering )
841
00:40:10,476 --> 00:40:14,545
{\an8}Cosell:
Let's watch Bobby Riggsgracefully accept...
842
00:40:14,614 --> 00:40:17,949
I was just like a washrag,
843
00:40:18,018 --> 00:40:20,083
and it was all
I could do to get up.
844
00:40:20,152 --> 00:40:23,020
I was so happyfor Billie Jean.
845
00:40:23,089 --> 00:40:25,622
Cosell:
Excitement engenderedall over the country...
846
00:40:25,691 --> 00:40:29,660
Larry King:
This is one of those momentsyou treasure forever.
847
00:40:29,729 --> 00:40:32,730
There was no security
at this match,
848
00:40:32,799 --> 00:40:35,299
so George Foreman
became one of my bodyguards.
849
00:40:35,368 --> 00:40:38,201
- And $100,000.
- ( laughs )
850
00:40:38,270 --> 00:40:40,604
Randy Moffitt:
I was sitting in my bed
851
00:40:40,673 --> 00:40:43,640
eating chicken wingsand watching my sister.
852
00:40:43,709 --> 00:40:45,676
{\an8}I did quite well
financially that day, too.
853
00:40:45,745 --> 00:40:47,348
{\an8}( laughs )
854
00:40:48,748 --> 00:40:50,715
King:
I know people thinkit was just fun.
855
00:40:50,784 --> 00:40:52,883
It was not fun for me.
856
00:40:52,952 --> 00:40:55,422
( cheering )
857
00:40:57,089 --> 00:40:59,790
King:
I wanted to get it over with,have it part of history.
858
00:40:59,859 --> 00:41:02,459
Margaret went
and opened the door,
859
00:41:02,528 --> 00:41:04,465
and I hope
I shut the door.
860
00:41:09,970 --> 00:41:11,569
Deford:
If she'd lost,
861
00:41:11,638 --> 00:41:14,204
it truly would've hurtwomen's tennis,
862
00:41:14,273 --> 00:41:17,508
and it would've hurtBillie Jean King.
863
00:41:17,577 --> 00:41:20,177
I don't think that she
would have remained
864
00:41:20,246 --> 00:41:23,951
as substantivea character thereafter.
865
00:41:25,385 --> 00:41:27,485
I'm surethat most people felt
866
00:41:27,554 --> 00:41:31,655
that she couldn't standBobby Riggs.
867
00:41:31,724 --> 00:41:35,291
I think there wasa great part of herthat liked him.
868
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:41,132
She stayed in touch with himliterally till the day he died.
869
00:41:41,201 --> 00:41:43,800
King:
Near the end,in a very soft voice,
870
00:41:43,869 --> 00:41:47,738
he said, "We really didmake a difference, didn't we?"
871
00:41:47,807 --> 00:41:50,611
The last thing I ever said
to Bobby was, "I love you."
872
00:41:53,379 --> 00:41:56,279
Larry King:
Beating a man wasn't reallythe important thing.
873
00:41:56,348 --> 00:42:00,317
The important thing
was that women professional
athletes
874
00:42:00,386 --> 00:42:03,988
deserved an opportunity
to be as good as they could be
875
00:42:04,057 --> 00:42:06,557
in whatever endeavorthey chose.
876
00:42:06,626 --> 00:42:09,096
That's what wonthat night.
877
00:42:11,865 --> 00:42:13,296
Billie Jean King triumphed
878
00:42:13,365 --> 00:42:16,933
over the self-proclaimed
"male chauvinist pig"
Bobby Riggs.
879
00:42:17,002 --> 00:42:19,669
The outcome even drew attention
on the Senate floor.
880
00:42:19,738 --> 00:42:22,773
Democratic leader Mansfield
said he was delighted
and, quote,
881
00:42:22,842 --> 00:42:25,075
"There has to be good news
once in a while."
882
00:42:25,144 --> 00:42:28,145
Minority leader Scott
said Mrs. King's victory, quote,
883
00:42:28,214 --> 00:42:30,447
"ratified
the 26th amendment."
884
00:42:30,516 --> 00:42:32,016
That's the Equal Rights
Amendment.
885
00:42:32,085 --> 00:42:35,786
Deford:
She was absolutelya symbol at that time.
886
00:42:35,855 --> 00:42:38,956
Everywhere she went,she was known.
887
00:42:39,025 --> 00:42:41,058
"Seventeen" magazine
polled its readers,
888
00:42:41,127 --> 00:42:44,094
and she was votedthe most respected womanin the world.
889
00:42:44,163 --> 00:42:46,329
Golda Meir of Israelwas second.
890
00:42:46,398 --> 00:42:49,069
Ladies and gentlemen,
Miss Billie Jean King.
891
00:42:50,803 --> 00:42:52,569
King:
Being a celebritywas really important,
892
00:42:52,638 --> 00:42:54,370
because if you're gonnatranscend your sport,
893
00:42:54,439 --> 00:42:57,074
you've gotta touchpeople's hearts somehow,or their minds,
894
00:42:57,143 --> 00:42:59,343
and get them
to pay attention.
895
00:42:59,412 --> 00:43:04,048
( audience applauding )
896
00:43:04,117 --> 00:43:06,417
Hi, Billie Jean.
Long time no see.
897
00:43:06,486 --> 00:43:08,489
Who'd you
hustle today?
898
00:43:10,923 --> 00:43:13,524
Well, at least
you're smarter now.
You're only playing men.
899
00:43:13,593 --> 00:43:16,060
She couldn't go anywhere
without women coming up
900
00:43:16,129 --> 00:43:17,795
and wantingto touch her.
901
00:43:17,864 --> 00:43:20,798
In tennis, she was not onlynear the top of her game,
902
00:43:20,867 --> 00:43:23,567
but she also was sort ofrunning the show.
903
00:43:23,636 --> 00:43:25,406
Commentator:
Look out.
904
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,173
Deford:
She was sort of likean octopus.
905
00:43:29,242 --> 00:43:31,175
She had her tentacleseverywhere.
906
00:43:31,244 --> 00:43:33,043
I am pleased
to present you
with this award
907
00:43:33,112 --> 00:43:35,980
as Outstanding Woman
Athlete of 1973.
908
00:43:36,049 --> 00:43:37,714
Thank you.
909
00:43:37,783 --> 00:43:40,917
King:
The Women's Sports Foundationwas formed in May of '74.
910
00:43:40,986 --> 00:43:43,787
Well, I'd like this to go
to Women's Sports Foundation...
911
00:43:43,856 --> 00:43:46,590
King:
Got a $5,000 checkfrom Bob Hope.
912
00:43:46,659 --> 00:43:48,759
We wanted to change
the attitude
913
00:43:48,828 --> 00:43:51,061
towards girls and women
in sports,
914
00:43:51,130 --> 00:43:53,531
and we wanted to give grants
to grassroots programs.
915
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,265
To do this
and be successful,
916
00:43:55,334 --> 00:43:58,336
we're gonna need some
high-profile trustees
917
00:43:58,405 --> 00:44:00,838
to get behind the idea.
918
00:44:00,907 --> 00:44:04,578
And that's how
I met Sparky.
919
00:44:05,912 --> 00:44:08,312
Charles Schulz--Sparky's his nickname--
920
00:44:08,381 --> 00:44:11,482
I just loved himfrom the very first moment.
921
00:44:11,551 --> 00:44:13,584
He becamean immediate trustee
922
00:44:13,653 --> 00:44:16,653
and believedthat we could do anything.
923
00:44:16,722 --> 00:44:19,493
I was so thankfulthat he was in my life...
924
00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:23,060
because some people
are really highly skilled
925
00:44:23,129 --> 00:44:24,661
or number one
in their field
926
00:44:24,730 --> 00:44:26,029
and they're not
really nice people
927
00:44:26,098 --> 00:44:28,435
or not really the kind of person
I want to be around.
928
00:44:29,569 --> 00:44:30,735
But I did want to be
around Sparky
929
00:44:30,804 --> 00:44:32,273
and I did want to be
around Elton.
930
00:44:35,775 --> 00:44:38,308
I fell in lovewith Elton John in '71.
931
00:44:38,377 --> 00:44:40,878
Elton John:
I first met herat a party in Hollywood.
932
00:44:40,947 --> 00:44:42,680
{\an8}We're both
glasses wearers.
933
00:44:42,749 --> 00:44:44,682
{\an8}I think we both hid behind
our glasses a little bit,
934
00:44:44,751 --> 00:44:47,684
but as soon as I met her,I warmed to her immediately.
935
00:44:47,753 --> 00:44:50,421
King:And Elton said, "Okay,we have to get together."
936
00:44:50,490 --> 00:44:53,156
I called him and he came
right over in his Rolls-Royce.
937
00:44:53,225 --> 00:44:55,026
That's what he had.
28 speakers.
938
00:44:55,095 --> 00:44:56,994
( music playing )
939
00:44:57,063 --> 00:44:59,262
John:
So I blasted herout of that car.
940
00:44:59,331 --> 00:45:02,033
King:
And a little later on,I was at one of his concerts.
941
00:45:02,102 --> 00:45:04,001
It's Billie Jean King.
942
00:45:04,070 --> 00:45:08,405
King:
Now I became an immediate BV--backup vocalist.
943
00:45:08,474 --> 00:45:10,841
( singing )
944
00:45:10,910 --> 00:45:12,175
King:
I did that quite often,actually,
945
00:45:12,244 --> 00:45:13,577
and I had no ideawhat I was doing
946
00:45:13,646 --> 00:45:15,082
and I loved every
minute of it.
947
00:45:17,350 --> 00:45:20,317
John:
She wanted to feelwhat I felt onstage.
948
00:45:20,386 --> 00:45:22,152
I could never do that
on court with her
949
00:45:22,221 --> 00:45:23,721
except at
a World Team Tennis Match.
950
00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:25,055
Great shot!
951
00:45:25,124 --> 00:45:26,957
King:In '74, Larry and Iwere involved
952
00:45:27,026 --> 00:45:29,192
in formingWorld Team Tennis.
953
00:45:29,261 --> 00:45:33,697
World Team Tennis
was everything Billie Jean
wanted for tennis.
954
00:45:33,766 --> 00:45:38,935
The idea allowedthe men and womento be totally equal.
955
00:45:39,004 --> 00:45:41,171
King:
And Americans understandteam sports.
956
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:43,040
They understandcity versus city,
957
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:44,941
and all those things
were very important to us.
958
00:45:45,010 --> 00:45:46,777
Announcer:
The great Billie Jean King
959
00:45:46,846 --> 00:45:48,179
will be playing
for Philadelphia.
960
00:45:48,248 --> 00:45:50,047
( audience cheering )
961
00:45:50,116 --> 00:45:52,553
Announcer:
Billie Jean King!
962
00:45:54,354 --> 00:45:55,986
Evert:
I loved the concept.
963
00:45:56,055 --> 00:45:58,289
I'm a big fan
of World Team Tennis.
964
00:45:58,358 --> 00:46:00,558
I was cheering on
my teammates
965
00:46:00,627 --> 00:46:02,492
as well as they were
cheering me on,
966
00:46:02,561 --> 00:46:05,529
and it was just totally
a new concept for me.
967
00:46:05,598 --> 00:46:08,065
Evert:
There's so much excitementin that arena,
968
00:46:08,134 --> 00:46:09,667
and with the differentcolor court,
969
00:46:09,736 --> 00:46:10,934
it was pure entertainment.
970
00:46:11,003 --> 00:46:13,003
Commentator:
Evert forehand,King backhand,
971
00:46:13,072 --> 00:46:14,138
volley, backhand,volley.
972
00:46:14,207 --> 00:46:16,673
Evert backhand, volley,and a point!
973
00:46:16,742 --> 00:46:19,809
Oh, Mother Freedom,Billie Jean King delivers.
974
00:46:19,878 --> 00:46:22,913
Martina Navratilova: I loved it.All the top players played.
975
00:46:22,982 --> 00:46:25,116
{\an8}It's great as a tennis player
that you can be part of a team.
976
00:46:25,185 --> 00:46:26,817
{\an8}It makes sense.
977
00:46:26,886 --> 00:46:29,720
Evert:
You get to travel togetherand form friendships,
978
00:46:29,789 --> 00:46:32,889
{\an8}some people more than that,
and it was a ball.
979
00:46:32,958 --> 00:46:35,059
John:
I said to her thatI'd like to write a song
980
00:46:35,128 --> 00:46:36,893
for the PhiladelphiaFreedoms.
981
00:46:36,962 --> 00:46:39,329
It's luckythat they were calledthe Philadelphia Freedoms
982
00:46:39,398 --> 00:46:42,567
and not
the Boston Lobsters.
983
00:46:42,636 --> 00:46:45,302
โช Philadelphia Freedom... โช
984
00:46:45,371 --> 00:46:47,838
John:
And, you know,it's lasted quite a long time.
985
00:46:47,907 --> 00:46:51,009
Every time I play it,
I always think of her.
986
00:46:51,078 --> 00:46:53,480
โช Yes, I do... โช
987
00:47:03,723 --> 00:47:04,722
Yes!
988
00:47:04,791 --> 00:47:05,989
Commentator:
That's one of them.
989
00:47:06,058 --> 00:47:08,558
At the end of '78,I ran into Martina,
990
00:47:08,627 --> 00:47:10,395
and she said,
"Let's play Wimbledon next year,
991
00:47:10,464 --> 00:47:11,795
get your 20th."
992
00:47:11,864 --> 00:47:13,430
Commentator:
Mrs. King in search ofthis 20th title.
993
00:47:13,499 --> 00:47:15,599
No doubt the pressure'sbeginning to bear a bit.
994
00:47:15,668 --> 00:47:17,768
Navratilova:
I knew this was probablyBillie's last chance
995
00:47:17,837 --> 00:47:20,604
at breaking the record'cause she was past her prime.
996
00:47:20,673 --> 00:47:23,073
I wanted Billie
to win that title
and make history.
997
00:47:23,142 --> 00:47:25,509
I was glad that I was ableto help her.
998
00:47:25,578 --> 00:47:27,378
- Martina: All right!
- Commentator: That's it, she's done it.
999
00:47:27,447 --> 00:47:29,717
( spectators cheering )
1000
00:47:31,150 --> 00:47:33,450
An historic dayand another chapter
1001
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:37,054
now writtenby Billie Jean King.
1002
00:47:37,123 --> 00:47:38,355
Evert:
I mean, you cantake anything else
1003
00:47:38,424 --> 00:47:40,257
away from hertennis record-wise,
1004
00:47:40,326 --> 00:47:41,959
but don't take the Wimbledon
one away from her.
1005
00:47:42,028 --> 00:47:43,460
Commentator:
Her 20th title.
1006
00:47:43,529 --> 00:47:45,462
One wonders whetherit will ever be beaten.
1007
00:47:45,531 --> 00:47:48,903
Six singles, 10 doubles,and four mixed.
1008
00:47:51,871 --> 00:47:54,675
Evert:
Billie Jean is Wimbledon.
1009
00:47:56,109 --> 00:47:59,476
King:
I felt safeon a tennis court.
1010
00:47:59,545 --> 00:48:03,780
It's my stagefor whatever timeI was out there.
1011
00:48:03,849 --> 00:48:05,249
I'm gonna enjoythis moment
1012
00:48:05,318 --> 00:48:09,420
and escape all the otherproblems in my life.
1013
00:48:09,489 --> 00:48:12,022
But it didn't last.
1014
00:48:12,091 --> 00:48:15,792
{\an8}A palimony suit has been filed
against Billie Jean King,
1015
00:48:15,861 --> 00:48:19,262
{\an8}the tennis player, by a woman
who lived with her in the 1970s.
1016
00:48:19,331 --> 00:48:22,600
Marilyn Barnett allegesthat she and Mrs. King
1017
00:48:22,669 --> 00:48:24,168
had a lesbianrelationship.
1018
00:48:24,237 --> 00:48:25,803
She is seekinghalf the property
1019
00:48:25,872 --> 00:48:27,938
Mrs. King acquiredduring that time.
1020
00:48:28,007 --> 00:48:30,007
I hardly saw Marilyn,
actually,
1021
00:48:30,076 --> 00:48:32,580
except for the year
1973.
1022
00:48:34,180 --> 00:48:37,047
It was emotional blackmail,financial blackmail.
1023
00:48:37,116 --> 00:48:39,516
Quite frankly,I was really afraid of her,
1024
00:48:39,585 --> 00:48:43,921
{\an8}and that's when I reallywanted that press conference.
1025
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:46,456
{\an8}Was I scared to death?Yes.
1026
00:48:46,525 --> 00:48:48,526
But I'd felt truly--
if I was true to myself,
1027
00:48:48,595 --> 00:48:49,693
I didn't have a choice.
1028
00:48:49,762 --> 00:48:53,434
I did have an affair
with Marilyn Barnett.
1029
00:48:54,834 --> 00:48:57,701
It's been over
for quite some time,
1030
00:48:57,770 --> 00:49:00,170
but it'svery important to me
1031
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,675
to thank Larry
because I love him very much.
1032
00:49:04,744 --> 00:49:08,146
He's my lover, my husband,
and my best friend.
1033
00:49:08,215 --> 00:49:09,813
Has been for 19 years.
1034
00:49:09,882 --> 00:49:13,917
Larry King:
Anybody would supporttheir wife in this situation--
1035
00:49:13,986 --> 00:49:15,685
you know, when they
get stabbed in the back.
1036
00:49:15,754 --> 00:49:19,222
I would like to thank
my parents for standing by me.
1037
00:49:19,291 --> 00:49:22,225
Randy Moffitt:
It was a really tough timefor our family.
1038
00:49:22,294 --> 00:49:25,429
And coming out as she--well, she didn't come out.
1039
00:49:25,498 --> 00:49:27,665
She was kicked in, basically,
I'd call it.
1040
00:49:27,734 --> 00:49:30,968
Navratilova:
To be outed in that form--
1041
00:49:31,037 --> 00:49:33,237
you wouldn't wish that
on your worst enemy.
1042
00:49:33,306 --> 00:49:35,739
{\an8}Billie Jean,
it's now being said...
1043
00:49:35,808 --> 00:49:38,710
{\an8}King:
The one thing I did sayis that it was a mistake.
1044
00:49:38,779 --> 00:49:41,845
I did make a mistake.
1045
00:49:41,914 --> 00:49:44,648
I am married,
it is wrong.
1046
00:49:44,717 --> 00:49:46,817
King:
And I think the lesbian/gay/bisexual/
1047
00:49:46,886 --> 00:49:48,786
and transgendercommunity
1048
00:49:48,855 --> 00:49:51,022
felt it was a mistakebecause I'd been with a woman,
1049
00:49:51,091 --> 00:49:52,689
and that's notwhat I meant.
1050
00:49:52,758 --> 00:49:55,626
It was a mistake
because I believe in monogamy,
1051
00:49:55,695 --> 00:49:59,797
and I think people
got confused,
1052
00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,798
and I'm sorry
there was that confusion.
1053
00:50:01,867 --> 00:50:03,400
Can your marriage
survive this?
1054
00:50:03,469 --> 00:50:06,737
It can as far
as I'm concerned.
1055
00:50:06,806 --> 00:50:11,912
I don't anticipate
that it wouldn't.
1056
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,581
Well, for me, it can.
I was--
1057
00:50:17,650 --> 00:50:20,451
I told you, you can
divorce me anytime.
1058
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,687
King:
We tried again after that,but it was a lie,
1059
00:50:23,756 --> 00:50:25,122
and I tried
to get him to leave.
1060
00:50:25,191 --> 00:50:27,425
I'd ask him, but then
he'd always come back,
1061
00:50:27,494 --> 00:50:28,926
and I'd let him in.
1062
00:50:28,995 --> 00:50:30,427
So that was really
my fault.
1063
00:50:30,496 --> 00:50:33,531
Reporter:
It was a decision metby Billie Jean King
1064
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:34,931
with tearful emotions.
1065
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,437
I have to resolve that issue
against Miss Barnett.
1066
00:50:40,506 --> 00:50:43,374
King:
The judge ruled thatit was the closest to extortion
1067
00:50:43,443 --> 00:50:44,708
that he'd ever seen.
1068
00:50:44,777 --> 00:50:46,477
But, you know,
for me personally,
1069
00:50:46,546 --> 00:50:48,449
the damage
had already been done.
1070
00:50:50,749 --> 00:50:52,149
Deford:
She knew she wasgoing to lose
1071
00:50:52,218 --> 00:50:54,952
all sorts of endorsementsin the process.
1072
00:50:55,021 --> 00:50:58,321
Here she was,the former championof the world,
1073
00:50:58,390 --> 00:51:01,459
and she's playingwithout a clothing contract.
1074
00:51:01,528 --> 00:51:03,828
She was just wearing
stuff off the rack.
1075
00:51:03,897 --> 00:51:05,929
Navratilova:
To be losing endorsements,
1076
00:51:05,998 --> 00:51:08,666
what, becauseof your sexual orientation?
1077
00:51:08,735 --> 00:51:10,905
She did not deserve
what she got on that one.
1078
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:18,041
Ilana Kloss:
She's getting readyto retire.
1079
00:51:18,110 --> 00:51:21,946
{\an8}It was a scary time.
I mean, I think--
1080
00:51:22,015 --> 00:51:23,380
{\an8}Billie Jean
was still married,
1081
00:51:23,449 --> 00:51:26,053
I was starting
to be in her life.
1082
00:51:27,819 --> 00:51:30,153
King:
I hadn't really seen heror talked to her for years.
1083
00:51:30,222 --> 00:51:32,989
I'd say hi to her on the tour,like, in passing.
1084
00:51:33,058 --> 00:51:35,826
I met Ilanafor the first time--she was a ball girl.
1085
00:51:35,895 --> 00:51:40,097
Kloss:
It was 1967,the South African Open.
1086
00:51:40,166 --> 00:51:42,266
She was my idol.
1087
00:51:42,335 --> 00:51:44,034
I met her when I
was 11 years old.
1088
00:51:44,103 --> 00:51:46,703
Little did I know
what was gonna follow
in my lifetime.
1089
00:51:46,772 --> 00:51:51,341
For some reason,we went out to dinner in '79,
1090
00:51:51,410 --> 00:51:53,443
and I hadn't seen herfor all these years
1091
00:51:53,512 --> 00:51:55,745
and I thought, "Jeez,I'd like to see more of Ilana."
1092
00:51:55,814 --> 00:51:59,750
At that time,
I didn't think of it
in a romantic way.
1093
00:51:59,819 --> 00:52:03,220
I did spend some time
with Billie Jean then
as a friend.
1094
00:52:03,289 --> 00:52:06,489
She asked meto play doubles with her.
1095
00:52:06,558 --> 00:52:10,360
I realized that she wasreally somebody that I loved.
1096
00:52:10,429 --> 00:52:14,431
King:
We really started gettinginterested in each other.
1097
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:18,702
It took her a little while
to, you know, be able to say,
1098
00:52:18,771 --> 00:52:20,538
"You know what?
I shouldn't be married.
1099
00:52:20,607 --> 00:52:23,674
It's not right for me.
It's not right for Larry.
1100
00:52:23,743 --> 00:52:26,380
It's not fair to me."
1101
00:52:28,648 --> 00:52:31,582
King:
I had wanted this divorcefrom Larry for a long time.
1102
00:52:31,651 --> 00:52:34,785
I was so paralyzedfor so long,
1103
00:52:34,854 --> 00:52:36,987
and I needed to stop it.
1104
00:52:37,056 --> 00:52:40,457
Larry King:
I think Billie Jean feltthat she was releasing me
1105
00:52:40,526 --> 00:52:44,161
and letting me havethe life I expected.
1106
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:45,897
I wasn'ta Goody Two-Shoes.
1107
00:52:45,966 --> 00:52:48,465
I was havingrelationships,
1108
00:52:48,534 --> 00:52:51,168
and people makeaccommodations.
1109
00:52:51,237 --> 00:52:54,038
{\an8}She was helping me
and I was helping her
1110
00:52:54,107 --> 00:52:56,006
{\an8}by being divorced.
1111
00:52:56,075 --> 00:52:59,576
I knew this was--
you know, Ilana's the one.
1112
00:52:59,645 --> 00:53:02,212
Ilana's much moregrounded.
1113
00:53:02,281 --> 00:53:05,349
I'm more the highty-flighty,expansive one.
1114
00:53:05,418 --> 00:53:06,951
When you're around
Billie Jean...
1115
00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:08,019
Thanks a lot.
1116
00:53:08,088 --> 00:53:09,420
Kloss:
...you really are attracted
1117
00:53:09,489 --> 00:53:11,822
by this energyand this commitment.
1118
00:53:11,891 --> 00:53:13,790
You're improving.
Keep working on your game.
1119
00:53:13,859 --> 00:53:15,558
Oh, thanks.
I really appreciate that.
1120
00:53:15,627 --> 00:53:17,929
Kloss:
You know, I do thinkwe complete each other.
1121
00:53:17,998 --> 00:53:20,334
Okay,
it's been real.
1122
00:53:24,904 --> 00:53:27,037
King:
I really feel it took metill I was 51
1123
00:53:27,106 --> 00:53:31,241
to come to peacewith my parents aboutmy sexuality.
1124
00:53:31,310 --> 00:53:33,277
I probably tried to talk
to my mother for the first time
1125
00:53:33,346 --> 00:53:36,881
in the early '70s
about it,
1126
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:39,382
and I just...
1127
00:53:39,451 --> 00:53:41,852
no guts, no glory,
and I just couldn't do it.
1128
00:53:41,921 --> 00:53:46,090
She walked-- my mom
walked out of the room and...
1129
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:48,660
"I don't talk
about things like this.
1130
00:53:48,729 --> 00:53:50,297
You're not like that."
1131
00:53:52,164 --> 00:53:54,698
But I grew upin a family where doing
1132
00:53:54,767 --> 00:53:57,701
is what we talked about,not what we're feeling.
1133
00:53:57,770 --> 00:54:01,172
Later in life,my family therapistreally helped.
1134
00:54:01,241 --> 00:54:03,173
We really didtry to talk it through.
1135
00:54:03,242 --> 00:54:05,410
That was tough.
It was tough on my parents,
1136
00:54:05,479 --> 00:54:07,515
and...
1137
00:54:08,715 --> 00:54:10,080
my dad was so cute.
1138
00:54:10,149 --> 00:54:11,949
"Be patient with your mother.
She'll come around."
1139
00:54:12,018 --> 00:54:13,951
( laughs )
1140
00:54:14,020 --> 00:54:15,252
So...
1141
00:54:15,321 --> 00:54:18,122
my mom took longer,
but she got there.
1142
00:54:18,191 --> 00:54:21,057
Most parents dream
of their children
1143
00:54:21,126 --> 00:54:23,527
growing up and getting
married and having kids,
1144
00:54:23,596 --> 00:54:26,496
but I think it's hardto argue with the love
1145
00:54:26,565 --> 00:54:29,232
that Billie Jeanand I share.
1146
00:54:29,301 --> 00:54:33,604
Randy Moffitt:
They have a great relationship,my parents do, with Ilana.
1147
00:54:33,673 --> 00:54:35,405
It's just
a good situation.
1148
00:54:35,474 --> 00:54:37,575
King:
I have a great lifewith my parents now.
1149
00:54:37,644 --> 00:54:40,811
No lies, no secrets.
1150
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,813
It's just like--
whew--
1151
00:54:42,882 --> 00:54:44,347
I can breathe.
1152
00:54:44,416 --> 00:54:47,951
If you ask Billie Jean
where is her favorite place
to go to lunch?
1153
00:54:48,020 --> 00:54:50,721
She will tell youit's Costco with her parents
1154
00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:53,824
for a hot dogand a frozen yogurt.
1155
00:54:53,893 --> 00:54:56,660
King:
Everything is reconciled.
1156
00:54:56,729 --> 00:55:00,764
Every little thing,
and that's what I wanted.
1157
00:55:00,833 --> 00:55:03,768
Woman:
Would you please welcomeBillie Jean King?
1158
00:55:03,837 --> 00:55:06,336
( cheering, applause )
1159
00:55:06,405 --> 00:55:09,573
King:
What's really interestingis I finally have gotten paid
1160
00:55:09,642 --> 00:55:11,075
because I'm a lesbian.
1161
00:55:11,144 --> 00:55:12,342
There's a market
out there now.
1162
00:55:12,411 --> 00:55:14,545
Because, I tell ya,
it really helps if you know,
1163
00:55:14,614 --> 00:55:15,879
truly, who you are,
1164
00:55:15,948 --> 00:55:18,116
and to be dedicated
to your truth is huge.
1165
00:55:18,185 --> 00:55:20,384
Dedication
to my truth.
1166
00:55:20,453 --> 00:55:23,253
I mean,
that is so contrary
1167
00:55:23,322 --> 00:55:27,291
to what I experienced25 years ago.
1168
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,526
I still think
it's a dream.
1169
00:55:28,595 --> 00:55:30,994
I'd like everyone
to wish her the best.
1170
00:55:31,063 --> 00:55:33,197
- Happy birthday, Billie.
- Thank you.
1171
00:55:33,266 --> 00:55:35,466
King:
I feel likea youngster inside.
1172
00:55:35,535 --> 00:55:39,069
In my heart, I feel likeI'm 17 years old still.
1173
00:55:39,138 --> 00:55:41,038
I always want to remainyoung at heart
1174
00:55:41,107 --> 00:55:43,644
'cause that's what
gives me the drive
to keep going.
1175
00:55:46,312 --> 00:55:48,078
And I'm really luckyand very blessed
1176
00:55:48,147 --> 00:55:51,749
with the peopleand friends in my life.
1177
00:55:51,818 --> 00:55:54,651
Betty Moffitt:
I could see the growththrough the years
1178
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:58,122
of what she was tryingto do and accomplish.
1179
00:55:58,191 --> 00:56:02,663
To have a dream come true
is very important.
1180
00:56:06,032 --> 00:56:09,032
Randy Moffitt:
Billie Jean was never afraidto voice her opinions.
1181
00:56:09,101 --> 00:56:11,902
Made a lot of people angry,made a lot of people happy,
1182
00:56:11,971 --> 00:56:14,175
but that's my sister.
1183
00:56:17,410 --> 00:56:19,476
{\an8}Larry King:
Billie Jean's trueto her character.
1184
00:56:19,545 --> 00:56:20,811
She wants to
change the world.
1185
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,246
She's inspiring.
1186
00:56:23,315 --> 00:56:26,217
Never regretted a dayI spent with Billie Jean.
1187
00:56:26,286 --> 00:56:28,352
I don't thinkanybody does.
1188
00:56:28,421 --> 00:56:30,687
She is somebody
you believe in
1189
00:56:30,756 --> 00:56:34,057
when she tells youyou can achieve, youcan accomplish.
1190
00:56:34,126 --> 00:56:36,493
As great a tennis champion
as she was,
1191
00:56:36,562 --> 00:56:38,563
I don't even think aboutwhat she did on the court
1192
00:56:38,632 --> 00:56:41,631
as much as howshe had the vision
1193
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:44,101
to look ahead and seehow far she could take
1194
00:56:44,170 --> 00:56:47,804
not only women's tennis,but women's sports.
1195
00:56:47,873 --> 00:56:50,007
Navratilova:
We needed somebodythat could really spearhead
1196
00:56:50,076 --> 00:56:53,344
the movement of equalityfor women tennis players,
1197
00:56:53,413 --> 00:56:55,379
therefore women athletes,therefore women.
1198
00:56:55,448 --> 00:56:56,984
We're all
grateful for that.
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Deford:
She and Jackie Robinson
1200
00:57:03,590 --> 00:57:06,523
are the two figuresin sports
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00:57:06,592 --> 00:57:09,393
who stand outin the culture.
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She should be honored
for what she did.
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She did a lot.
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If there was
a knighthood system
in America,
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she'd be DameBillie Jean King.
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She deservesthat sort of accolade
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for what she's donewith her life.
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{\an8}Kloss:
When you area Billie Jean King
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and you're a pioneer
and you're trying to
crash down doors,
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00:57:30,783 --> 00:57:33,150
you don't always
feel a lot of love,
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and for Billie,it's about the process,
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and that certainlyyields the greatest gift.
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King:
I'm having a great time
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even though I getdiscouraged sometimes.
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00:57:44,162 --> 00:57:47,398
If you're a girl or woman,you're supposed to bereally happy
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00:57:47,467 --> 00:57:49,233
when you getthe crumbs.
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00:57:49,302 --> 00:57:50,801
I don't want
the crumbs anymore.
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I want the cake
and the icing,
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and everybody deserves
the cake and the icing.
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