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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:04,300 Let me tell you about one of the youngest and most exciting areas 2 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:05,700 of astronomy research. 3 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:08,640 This is a field that is so riddled with diversity 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,180 and discovery that astronomers are constantly left going, 5 00:00:12,180 --> 00:00:13,260 "Huh? 6 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:14,420 "Huh? Huh?" 7 00:00:14,420 --> 00:00:17,380 Yes! It's finally happening, everyone! 8 00:00:17,380 --> 00:00:21,020 We're doing an episode on exoplanets. 9 00:00:23,060 --> 00:00:25,580 Exoplanets are planets outside the solar system - 10 00:00:25,580 --> 00:00:28,700 so, typically planets orbiting any star other than the sun, 11 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:31,220 but some of them are orphaned and have no star at all, 12 00:00:31,220 --> 00:00:33,100 so just outsiders really. 13 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:36,100 And, honestly, the stuff we've been discovering is just 14 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:39,580 constantly challenging everything we think we know about 15 00:00:39,580 --> 00:00:41,540 how planets form and evolve. 16 00:00:41,540 --> 00:00:44,140 I tell you, it is wild out there. 17 00:00:44,140 --> 00:00:47,860 In fact, it is so compelling that, back in 2018, 18 00:00:47,860 --> 00:00:51,740 I left my lovely, stable job as a secondary school physics teacher, 19 00:00:51,740 --> 00:00:54,580 moved to the Midlands, and embarked on a PhD 20 00:00:54,580 --> 00:00:56,500 in astrophysics as a mature student. 21 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:59,340 I had to learn Gen Z slang 22 00:00:59,340 --> 00:01:01,340 to get the cool kids to talk to me. 23 00:01:01,340 --> 00:01:03,460 And, lucky for you, tonight, 24 00:01:03,460 --> 00:01:06,420 you're going to get a taste of the field I love so much 25 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:08,180 without having to leave your job - 26 00:01:08,180 --> 00:01:10,260 or even your sofa, for that matter. 27 00:01:10,260 --> 00:01:12,580 Welcome to The Sky At Night. 28 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:46,740 Humanity has been dreaming of finding planets out amongst 29 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:50,300 the stars since we first started staring into space, 30 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:52,940 asking questions and wondering what might be up there 31 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:55,220 waiting to be discovered. 32 00:01:55,220 --> 00:01:57,460 How lucky we are to be the generation that gets 33 00:01:57,460 --> 00:02:00,100 to answer those questions. 34 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:04,620 The first exoplanet around a normal star was found in 1995 35 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:07,980 by astronomers watching how a star wobbled this way and that, 36 00:02:07,980 --> 00:02:09,220 back and forth, 37 00:02:09,220 --> 00:02:13,420 pulled by the gravity of a Saturn-mass planet. 38 00:02:13,420 --> 00:02:16,660 Such giant planets all lie far from the sun, 39 00:02:16,660 --> 00:02:21,060 but this one whizzed around its star in just four-and-a-half days. 40 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:24,180 No-one had expected such a world. 41 00:02:24,180 --> 00:02:28,260 And this one discovery spurred on a new generation of planet-hunters 42 00:02:28,260 --> 00:02:31,860 who wanted to conduct a census of planets in our galaxy. 43 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:35,780 To do so, they used a different technique, the transit method. 44 00:02:35,780 --> 00:02:38,020 Thousands of stars are monitored at once, 45 00:02:38,020 --> 00:02:40,500 looking for the faint dip in brightness that happens 46 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,740 when a planet gets in front of its parent star. 47 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:45,860 Results from space telescopes like Kepler - 48 00:02:45,860 --> 00:02:47,660 and more recently, Tess - 49 00:02:47,660 --> 00:02:50,900 have told us that not only is the galaxy full of planets, 50 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:54,300 but that some of them might well be like our own Earth. 51 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:57,900 Now, exactly how Earth-like a Earth-like planet has to be 52 00:02:57,900 --> 00:03:01,740 in order to count as properly Earth-like is open to debate. 53 00:03:01,740 --> 00:03:05,860 If we assume that life like us needs a planet like ours - 54 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:09,380 cosy atmosphere, liquid water, the right temperature - 55 00:03:09,380 --> 00:03:13,220 then results that we have on hand are close to confirming that 56 00:03:13,220 --> 00:03:15,660 not only is the Milky Way full of worlds, 57 00:03:15,660 --> 00:03:18,220 but lots of them are possible homes. 58 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:22,140 Are any of these worlds actually inhabited? 59 00:03:22,140 --> 00:03:25,860 Well, astronomers hope to detect what's called a biosignature, 60 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:30,060 a chemical which might indicate the presence of life. 61 00:03:30,060 --> 00:03:33,620 A recent paper claimed to have detected a chemical, DMS, 62 00:03:33,620 --> 00:03:36,700 in the atmosphere of a Neptune-sized world 63 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:38,900 called K2-18b. 64 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:42,300 Now, on Earth, DMS is made exclusively by life, 65 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:44,180 mostly by microorganisms. 66 00:03:44,180 --> 00:03:45,700 So, this is exciting. 67 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:48,140 But the picture is murky. 68 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:51,540 Some people think that K2-18b has a liquid water ocean, 69 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:53,660 others that it's a lava world. 70 00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:56,020 And those details matter. 71 00:03:56,020 --> 00:03:58,780 Other groups have looked at the same data and found 72 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:00,740 no trace at all of DMs. 73 00:04:00,740 --> 00:04:02,380 And, even if it is there, 74 00:04:02,380 --> 00:04:04,980 can we be sure that it can't be produced without life 75 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:07,780 in the chemistry of such a strange world? 76 00:04:07,780 --> 00:04:10,260 People are doing lab experiments to be sure. 77 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:13,300 Basically, this stuff is hard. 78 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:15,620 But in the meantime, don't despair. 79 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:19,060 Don't worry that we haven't yet found our perfect twin Earth, 80 00:04:19,060 --> 00:04:23,820 but revel instead in the diversity of worlds that we do know about. 81 00:04:23,820 --> 00:04:26,460 There are hot Jupiters and hot Neptunes, 82 00:04:26,460 --> 00:04:28,460 warm Jupiters and warm Neptunes, 83 00:04:28,460 --> 00:04:30,860 lava worlds, Earth-like places, 84 00:04:30,860 --> 00:04:33,500 Venus-like planets, comet-like planets, 85 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:36,140 stripped-core planets, diamond worlds, 86 00:04:36,140 --> 00:04:37,580 planets around young stars, 87 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:39,500 planets around old stars, 88 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:42,780 planets around pulsars that make no sense at all. 89 00:04:42,780 --> 00:04:44,140 There are planets... 90 00:04:44,140 --> 00:04:46,500 While Chris continues his list of amazing planets 91 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:48,300 that have already been found... 92 00:04:50,860 --> 00:04:54,140 ..I'm in Germany, where a new mission that hopes to find 93 00:04:54,140 --> 00:04:56,100 many more is being built. 94 00:04:59,140 --> 00:05:02,820 Dubbed "the Planet Hunter", ESA's Plato spacecraft 95 00:05:02,820 --> 00:05:06,820 is set to fly about a million miles to the L2 Lagrange point, 96 00:05:06,820 --> 00:05:09,420 where it's going to unfurl its nine-metre wingspan 97 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:14,220 and settle in for about four years to observe about 200,000 stars 98 00:05:14,220 --> 00:05:16,220 and the exoplanets that orbit them. 99 00:05:17,660 --> 00:05:21,340 I'm meeting Industrial Prime Project Manager Pablo Jorba Coloma 100 00:05:21,340 --> 00:05:23,060 by a model of the spacecraft. 101 00:05:24,780 --> 00:05:28,300 At the heart of the Plato mission is the extraordinary array 102 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:31,100 of precision-engineered high-spec cameras. 103 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,500 Two fast cameras at the top are integral for guiding, 104 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:39,220 while the rest focus on monitoring the stars 105 00:05:39,220 --> 00:05:40,740 to hunt for exoplanets. 106 00:05:42,260 --> 00:05:44,460 So, talk me through these cameras. 107 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:47,500 They're kind of slightly offset from each other, what does that mean? 108 00:06:14,660 --> 00:06:16,700 By grouping the cameras like this, 109 00:06:16,700 --> 00:06:21,420 Plato can obtain a wide field of view covering 5% of the sky... 110 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:25,940 ..while also getting incredible detail in smaller sections 111 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:27,740 where more cameras overlap. 112 00:06:29,420 --> 00:06:31,860 But this requires precision, 113 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:36,420 and the extremes of space cause huge engineering challenges. 114 00:06:51,940 --> 00:06:54,220 That's kind of specific. Why that temperature? 115 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:31,180 I-I... Honestly, I'm absolutely blown away. 116 00:07:31,180 --> 00:07:36,300 So, every single camera has its own little heater 117 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:40,620 keeping it stable in temperature to, like, a thousandth of a degree? 118 00:07:40,620 --> 00:07:43,500 Yes. Incredible. 119 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:46,180 What stage is the build at right now? Where have you got to? 120 00:08:03,780 --> 00:08:08,060 Congratulations! I mean, what a massive milestone to hit. Yes. 121 00:08:08,060 --> 00:08:11,460 Now, obviously, for an exoplaneteer like me, 122 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:15,020 this is so exciting, in terms of the data we're going to get. 123 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:18,100 But for an engineer like yourself, what's it been like? 124 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,100 OK, so now... 125 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:38,660 ..can I see the real thing?! 126 00:08:42,780 --> 00:08:44,860 SHE LAUGHS 127 00:08:47,620 --> 00:08:51,860 Plato will be the culmination of the work of over 100 organisations 128 00:08:51,860 --> 00:08:53,340 from across Europe. 129 00:08:53,340 --> 00:08:56,820 And I don't want to be the one to mess that up. 130 00:08:56,820 --> 00:08:59,660 So, first, it's time to don some PPE. 131 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:04,420 With that done, the moment has arrived. 132 00:09:06,220 --> 00:09:07,500 So... 133 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:13,220 It's so beautiful. 134 00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:17,980 It's Plato! SHE GIGGLES 135 00:09:17,980 --> 00:09:20,340 My heart was racing when I was waiting 136 00:09:20,340 --> 00:09:24,220 in the clean room to come out and like, yeah, he's a beauty. 137 00:09:26,220 --> 00:09:28,300 And I was told actually that, 138 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:31,060 of the scientists who are going to use Plato data, 139 00:09:31,060 --> 00:09:33,980 I'm the first one to see it, 140 00:09:33,980 --> 00:09:37,300 like, mated, to see it, like, put together. 141 00:09:38,940 --> 00:09:42,780 Of the exoplaneteers, I feel very privileged to be here. 142 00:09:42,780 --> 00:09:44,460 This is mind-blowing. 143 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:47,340 I am absolutely obsessed. 144 00:09:58,780 --> 00:09:59,860 Yeah. 145 00:10:01,060 --> 00:10:02,140 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 146 00:10:03,140 --> 00:10:05,820 QUIETLY: We're going into space! 147 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:08,020 My face hurts! 148 00:10:08,020 --> 00:10:10,940 I'm barely holding it together from down here. 149 00:10:10,940 --> 00:10:14,780 But then, I was allowed the ultimate view. 150 00:10:22,260 --> 00:10:24,900 I can see all the cameras. 151 00:10:24,900 --> 00:10:26,540 Are they in their positions? 152 00:10:26,540 --> 00:10:29,220 Like, have they been...aligned? 153 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:38,860 DIRECTOR: George, talk to me. Huh? Talk to me. 154 00:10:38,860 --> 00:10:40,780 I can't! I'm in love! 155 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:43,700 I could stay here all day. 156 00:10:45,620 --> 00:10:48,540 It's incredible to think that, in about a year and a half, 157 00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:52,460 Plato will be out there scanning the skies for new exoplanets. 158 00:10:57,540 --> 00:10:59,900 But in the meantime, we already have 159 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:02,500 a huge sample of exoplanets to keep us busy. 160 00:11:04,620 --> 00:11:07,140 ..we've got icy worlds and water worlds, 161 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:09,940 and ocean worlds and piscean worlds, 162 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:11,940 super-Earths and sub-Earths, 163 00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:13,780 super puffs, super... 164 00:11:13,780 --> 00:11:16,260 MAGGIE: As we discover these bizarre worlds, 165 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:17,900 we've been cataloguing them 166 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:20,780 and plotting them onto graphs. 167 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:23,420 And a puzzling mystery has emerged. 168 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:27,620 So far, we've found thousands of exoplanets. 169 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:31,780 And for the majority of them, we can work out their radii. 170 00:11:31,780 --> 00:11:35,140 Now, it turns out that most of them sit between Earth-size 171 00:11:35,140 --> 00:11:36,900 and Neptune-size. 172 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:39,980 Now, Neptune is three-and-a-half times the size of Earth. 173 00:11:39,980 --> 00:11:42,340 But there's a mystery. 174 00:11:42,340 --> 00:11:45,060 To explain further, I've got a little demonstration, 175 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:47,540 and it involves sweets. SHE CHUCKLES 176 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:49,500 Now, each of these jars represents 177 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:52,340 a distribution of exoplanet size. 178 00:11:52,340 --> 00:11:55,860 This one is one to one-and-a-half times the size of Earth. 179 00:11:55,860 --> 00:11:58,860 This one is one-and-a-half to two times the size of Earth. 180 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:00,260 And this one is two 181 00:12:00,260 --> 00:12:02,940 to three-and-a-half times the size of Earth. 182 00:12:02,940 --> 00:12:05,940 Now, these sweets represent the exoplanets, 183 00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:08,820 and we can fill up the jars according to their sizes. 184 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:16,380 Now, as you can see, 185 00:12:16,380 --> 00:12:18,500 I think a pattern is emerging. 186 00:12:21,060 --> 00:12:22,940 But let's put the other exoplanets in, 187 00:12:22,940 --> 00:12:24,300 and then I'll explain. 188 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:32,260 So, now we've distributed all the exoplanets, 189 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:34,420 you can see where the mystery lies. 190 00:12:34,420 --> 00:12:38,100 We have plenty in this jar. 191 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:40,860 But, in the one-and-a-half to two times the size of Earth, 192 00:12:40,860 --> 00:12:43,100 there seems to be a deficit. 193 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:46,260 And the mystery is so grand, it's been given its own title. 194 00:12:46,260 --> 00:12:49,940 It's called the Exoplanet Radius Valley. 195 00:12:49,940 --> 00:12:52,420 Because, if you plot this on a graph, 196 00:12:52,420 --> 00:12:54,420 you get a valley here in the middle. 197 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:01,500 To find out more about this gap, 198 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:04,420 I'm being joined by Larissa Palethorpe, 199 00:13:04,420 --> 00:13:06,780 who's been studying this area, 200 00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:10,380 and, along the way, found more than she expected. 201 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:14,700 Now, we're speaking exoplanets. 202 00:13:14,700 --> 00:13:18,940 We've been doing a demonstration, looking at the Radii Valley. 203 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:21,340 And this is the area of your PhD research. 204 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:22,740 Can you tell us more? 205 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:26,580 So, my PhD thesis is called "Characterising Small Exoplanets". 206 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:29,460 Essentially, I look at these planets, 207 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:32,820 which are around Earth-size, to work out kind of why 208 00:13:32,820 --> 00:13:37,060 we have this gap in the make-up of these planets, 209 00:13:37,060 --> 00:13:41,340 adding new sweets into these jars, so that we can learn more 210 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:43,660 about the problem, and try and get some answers. OK. 211 00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:46,500 And I suppose, that's it - the sort of more sweets we have, 212 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:48,820 the better we understand the distribution. 213 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:53,540 And you have the proud position of detecting an exoplanet yourself. 214 00:13:53,540 --> 00:13:55,700 Tell us more about your exoplanet. 215 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:57,980 Yes, so Gliese 12 b, 216 00:13:57,980 --> 00:14:00,980 I co-led the discovery of that planet last year. 217 00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:03,100 It's an Earth-size, very temperate planet, 218 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:05,780 so it's about 42 degrees Celsius on the surface, 219 00:14:05,780 --> 00:14:08,740 which makes it a very exciting candidate for follow-up 220 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:10,860 to see whether... Mm, yes! 221 00:14:10,860 --> 00:14:14,940 So, almost Earth-like? I mean, 42 is a bit warm, but... 222 00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:18,460 Yeah, so we would classify that as kind of Earth-like, 223 00:14:18,460 --> 00:14:22,140 kind of looking at, can liquid water exist on the surface? Yes. 224 00:14:22,140 --> 00:14:24,500 And obviously, at 42 degrees Celsius, 225 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:27,340 it could, but it's hard to say whether the planet 226 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:30,060 is Earth-like right now from the information we have. 227 00:14:30,060 --> 00:14:32,940 Right now, we currently only know the radius of the planet, 228 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:34,220 so the size of it. 229 00:14:34,220 --> 00:14:36,780 In future, we're going to learn more about the mass - 230 00:14:36,780 --> 00:14:39,140 that's currently being worked on right now. Yeah. 231 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:40,660 But what we really want to understand is, 232 00:14:40,660 --> 00:14:42,060 does it have an atmosphere? 233 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:44,180 So, I have to bring it up - life. 234 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:47,940 We don't know about if it has an atmosphere or anything like that, 235 00:14:47,940 --> 00:14:50,940 but...it just feels quite exciting that, you know, 236 00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:54,780 potentially there could be life, maybe? Yeah, potentially. 237 00:14:54,780 --> 00:14:57,700 It's kind of hard to make a claim like that with kind of 238 00:14:57,700 --> 00:14:59,940 the way we analyse data right now, 239 00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:02,940 but it's definitely a good candidate for looking at kind of 240 00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:05,220 a temperate, Earth-size planet, 241 00:15:05,220 --> 00:15:08,580 and what ends up evolving on the surface of that. 242 00:15:08,580 --> 00:15:11,820 So hopefully, maybe it's habitable, but we don't know right now. Yes. 243 00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:13,500 So hopefully, we will know in the future. 244 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:16,820 And I suppose, the other exciting thing is, it's not that far away? 245 00:15:16,820 --> 00:15:20,220 So, it's actually our nearest Earth-sized, temperate, 246 00:15:20,220 --> 00:15:23,580 transiting planet found today. A lovely description! 247 00:15:23,580 --> 00:15:25,180 Yeah, it's a bit of a mouthful. 248 00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:27,940 So, near - it's 40 light years - it's Earth-size, 249 00:15:27,940 --> 00:15:29,580 it's about one Earth radii. 250 00:15:29,580 --> 00:15:32,060 It's temperate, it's 42 degrees Celsius on its surface, 251 00:15:32,060 --> 00:15:34,620 and it's transiting, so it passes in front of a star, 252 00:15:34,620 --> 00:15:36,860 which makes it helpful for observations. 253 00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:43,300 Orbiting a red dwarf star that is just 27% the size of our sun, 254 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:46,780 Gliese 12 b is a fascinating planet. 255 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:50,140 But we still have the radius value mystery to solve. 256 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:54,140 Are there theories out there that might explain 257 00:15:54,140 --> 00:15:56,500 why we have this lull? Yes, there are theories. 258 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:58,820 So, it's to do with how planets form and evolve. 259 00:15:58,820 --> 00:16:02,420 There are a few different mechanisms as to how we think this might work, 260 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:05,140 but the key, base theory is that planets start off 261 00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:07,700 with atmospheres and, through some process - 262 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:10,380 whether it's to do with the star or the way they've formed - 263 00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:12,780 it's that they have their atmospheres stripped from them. 264 00:16:12,780 --> 00:16:14,580 And hence, they become super-Earths. 265 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:15,980 So, there are different mechanisms. 266 00:16:15,980 --> 00:16:17,900 We haven't been able to nail down the mechanism yet, 267 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:20,100 but essentially, it's atmospheric loss. 268 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:21,820 OK. Yes. That's what we think. 269 00:16:21,820 --> 00:16:24,220 And this is sort of the transition zone. Yes. 270 00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:26,580 And so, they start off here, they end up here, and then 271 00:16:26,580 --> 00:16:28,100 they just pass through this. Yeah. 272 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:29,940 And so there might not be many out there? Yeah. 273 00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:32,820 So theoretically, we should see planets moving through the valley. 274 00:16:32,820 --> 00:16:36,100 And, depending on the exact theory you choose is 275 00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:38,420 how long it would take them to move through the valley. 276 00:16:38,420 --> 00:16:40,420 So, that's how we're going to narrow things down. Yes! 277 00:16:40,420 --> 00:16:43,220 So, again, it's adding more sweets to this jar 278 00:16:43,220 --> 00:16:46,100 and seeing how long they stay in that jar for, 279 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:47,420 before they jump over. 280 00:16:47,420 --> 00:16:49,740 Hopefully it will help us nail it down. 281 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:52,740 Well, you can't argue with more sweets. Exactly, exactly. 282 00:16:54,340 --> 00:16:56,420 ..we've got planets with clear atmospheres, 283 00:16:56,420 --> 00:16:58,460 planets where it rains glass, 284 00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:00,820 planets where it rains iron, 285 00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:03,460 hazy planets, clou... cloudy planets, 286 00:17:03,460 --> 00:17:05,100 planets with rings... 287 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:09,500 But the planet we really want to find is one exactly like ours. 288 00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:12,420 And maybe Plato will be the one to find it. 289 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:16,660 George has torn herself away from the spaceship, 290 00:17:16,660 --> 00:17:19,620 and is sitting down with Thomas Walloschek, 291 00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:22,340 the ESA project manager of the mission, 292 00:17:22,340 --> 00:17:24,780 to find out what makes it so special. 293 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:28,380 So, talk to me about Plato's aims. 294 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:30,700 What's Plato going to achieve for us? 295 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:33,620 So, we are really looking for Earth-like planets 296 00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:35,860 around sun-like stars 297 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:39,020 in what people call the habitable zone - 298 00:17:39,020 --> 00:17:42,860 so, meaning there might be a possibility of liquid water. 299 00:17:42,860 --> 00:17:44,580 What's special about this mission? 300 00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:48,740 I would say we are a multi-telescope mission, 301 00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:51,460 which is quite different to the missions beforehand. 302 00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:53,700 Beforehand, we had, let's say, single telescopes. 303 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:55,580 We have 26 cameras on board. 304 00:17:55,580 --> 00:17:58,780 But also, there, we have a blue filter and a red filter 305 00:17:58,780 --> 00:18:01,860 on the fast cameras, which could give us a hint about 306 00:18:01,860 --> 00:18:04,580 already the atmospheres of these planets. 307 00:18:04,580 --> 00:18:06,900 Now, of course, these will be very impressive cameras, 308 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:08,980 but can you put it in terms I'll understand? 309 00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:11,340 How many megapixels, how does it compare to 310 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:13,380 my phone camera, for example? 311 00:18:13,380 --> 00:18:15,980 You know, roughly the size of your phone. 312 00:18:15,980 --> 00:18:20,060 And then, we can talk maybe about the size of one sensor 313 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:23,460 of one of the cameras, which is 20 megapixels. 314 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:25,980 But we have four of them per camera, 315 00:18:25,980 --> 00:18:28,780 which makes it 80 megapixels already per camera. 316 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:30,740 And, if you put it to 26 cameras, 317 00:18:30,740 --> 00:18:33,420 you have 2.1 gigapixels - 318 00:18:33,420 --> 00:18:38,180 so 2.1 billion pixels, really, that we have at hand 319 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:40,420 to do our observations. 320 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:43,780 So, a slight improvement on my 12 megapixels? 321 00:18:43,780 --> 00:18:46,060 I would say so. 322 00:18:46,060 --> 00:18:50,020 So, how important is the stability of the configuration? 323 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:52,940 Yeah, that's really one of the main drivers of the mission. 324 00:18:52,940 --> 00:18:55,220 So, we are looking at the southern hemisphere 325 00:18:55,220 --> 00:18:57,740 as one of our observation fields, 326 00:18:57,740 --> 00:19:00,020 and we want to look at this for two years. 327 00:19:00,020 --> 00:19:02,820 Within these two years, what we are trying to achieve is 328 00:19:02,820 --> 00:19:05,900 that we have a variation of a target, 329 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:08,780 not more than plus or minus one pixel 330 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:12,140 over the camera's...the camera's sensors. 331 00:19:12,140 --> 00:19:18,100 The aim is to have the same star roughly on the same pixel 332 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:20,740 for the full two years? 333 00:19:20,740 --> 00:19:23,100 Yeah, that's, in principle, the idea. 334 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:24,940 That's astonishing! Yeah. 335 00:19:24,940 --> 00:19:27,100 Do you think Plato will do it? 336 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,060 Will it find Earth 2.0? 337 00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:32,460 I definitely hope so. 338 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:36,580 And, let's say statistics show that we have a chance. 339 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:41,260 It is thrilling to think that, one day, 340 00:19:41,260 --> 00:19:45,100 Plato may detect other planets exactly like our own. 341 00:19:46,340 --> 00:19:48,660 But, while we wait to find out, 342 00:19:48,660 --> 00:19:52,300 an unexpected gas giant is challenging our understanding 343 00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:54,100 of how planets form. 344 00:19:56,740 --> 00:20:00,220 TOI 694 is a faint red dwarf. 345 00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:02,460 Nothing to write home about, and normally, 346 00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:04,900 a star no-one would pay attention to. 347 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:08,100 But a paper out last month revealed that this star 348 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:09,940 has a planet all of its own, 349 00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:12,060 and it's one that shouldn't exist. 350 00:20:15,220 --> 00:20:17,740 I'm at the University of Warwick 351 00:20:17,740 --> 00:20:19,740 meeting Edward Bryant - 352 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:22,380 who discovered this planet - to find out more. 353 00:20:24,780 --> 00:20:26,460 So, Ed, what have you found? 354 00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:30,300 So, what I found is a new planet called TOI-6894 b. 355 00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:32,380 And what's really exciting about this planet is, 356 00:20:32,380 --> 00:20:35,100 although the planet itself is just the size of Saturn, 357 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:38,980 the star it orbits is only 20% the size of our sun. 358 00:20:38,980 --> 00:20:40,980 I think I've worked out what these are for. 359 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:44,580 This football here shows the size of our sun in our own solar system. 360 00:20:44,580 --> 00:20:45,980 With strange sunspots... 361 00:20:45,980 --> 00:20:48,140 With some sunspots and solar activity going on. 362 00:20:48,140 --> 00:20:51,620 And then, the red snooker ball is showing the size of the star, 363 00:20:51,620 --> 00:20:54,860 TOI-6894, relative to the sun. 364 00:20:54,860 --> 00:20:57,260 And then the small bouncy ball there is showing 365 00:20:57,260 --> 00:21:00,980 the size of the planet, both TOI-6894 b and Saturn. 366 00:21:02,580 --> 00:21:05,420 Saturn's the second-largest planet in our solar system, 367 00:21:05,420 --> 00:21:07,500 and, though it's a gas giant, 368 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:10,100 it's less than a tenth the size of the sun's diameter. 369 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:15,220 TOI-6894 b, on the other hand, 370 00:21:15,220 --> 00:21:18,620 is almost half the size of its red dwarf host star. 371 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:22,740 So, is it unusual to have such a massive planet 372 00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:24,540 around such a small star? 373 00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:25,940 It is unusual, yes. 374 00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:29,220 And the reason it's so unusual is because we wouldn't have expected 375 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:32,260 that a star this small could have formed a planet this large. 376 00:21:32,260 --> 00:21:35,700 Why not? So, when we think these planets form protoplanetary disks, 377 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:38,500 these are huge disks of gas and rock and dust 378 00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:40,060 that surround the young star. 379 00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:43,060 I've always thought of it as the leftover material from the star. 380 00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:45,300 That's absolutely right. It's everything that's left from 381 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:47,380 the cloud that collapses to form the star. 382 00:21:47,380 --> 00:21:49,700 And, within these disks, the solid materials - 383 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:52,300 so the rock and the dust - collides together, and, 384 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:54,580 over about a few million years or so, builds up 385 00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:57,180 a very massive core that then will accrete gas 386 00:21:57,180 --> 00:21:58,980 and become the planet. 387 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:02,020 But the problem around these very low-mass stars is we think 388 00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:05,020 that these less massive stars have less massive disks. 389 00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:08,180 And so we wouldn't have thought that there would be enough material 390 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:09,980 to form a planet this massive. 391 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:11,660 So, what's happening? 392 00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:14,580 Is this some different form of planet formation? 393 00:22:14,580 --> 00:22:16,900 Or is there something else going on? 394 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,500 So, it could be a different form of planet formation, 395 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:22,300 or it could be that we just don't understand the disks very well. 396 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:25,380 So, there's a lot of work going on currently to trying 397 00:22:25,380 --> 00:22:26,820 to understand these disks. 398 00:22:26,820 --> 00:22:29,180 And these disks have not been studied in large numbers, 399 00:22:29,180 --> 00:22:30,900 and these planets are very rare. 400 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:33,100 So, this may just be the star that got lucky. 401 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:35,500 It could just be, yes, that this was a star that got lucky, 402 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:39,100 and, for some reason, had a disk that was a different composition 403 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:43,260 than what we expected, either more massive or a higher percentage of it 404 00:22:43,260 --> 00:22:46,500 was this rocky material that could form the core of the planet. 405 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:49,540 Now, what about the planet itself? So, we don't know much yet, 406 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:52,580 because all we have currently is a mass and a radius, 407 00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:55,260 and an estimate of what the temperature might be like. 408 00:22:55,260 --> 00:22:57,340 So, how will we find out more about it? 409 00:22:57,340 --> 00:23:02,180 By observing its atmosphere using transmission spectroscopy, 410 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:05,140 and using telescopes such as JWST. 411 00:23:05,140 --> 00:23:08,660 So, what will we learn from these JWST observations? 412 00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:11,500 So, as well as learning what gases are in the atmosphere, 413 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:14,340 one thing that we may be able to work out is 414 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:16,900 the exact mass of the core. 415 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:20,780 And, using that mass of the core, that feeds back into what 416 00:23:20,780 --> 00:23:24,020 formation process may have caused this planet in the first place, 417 00:23:24,020 --> 00:23:26,820 whether it has a very massive core or a less massive core, 418 00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:29,540 that could have formed through a different mechanism. 419 00:23:30,940 --> 00:23:33,860 While powerful cameras in space hope to reveal the secrets 420 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:35,900 of planets orbiting distant stars... 421 00:23:39,220 --> 00:23:42,100 ..it's by pointing a camera at the moon orbiting our Earth 422 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:44,420 that you can capture a rather special image. 423 00:23:46,260 --> 00:23:48,180 Pete is on hand to explain. 424 00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:52,060 While short nights and not particularly dark skies 425 00:23:52,060 --> 00:23:55,060 can make stargazing difficult during the summer months, 426 00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:58,260 the moon can always be relied on to delight. 427 00:23:58,260 --> 00:24:00,500 And this is a good time to look out for an effect 428 00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:02,220 known as the moon illusion. 429 00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:10,300 This is where the moon appears huge against the horizon - 430 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:12,260 and that is the key word, 431 00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:16,220 because it is an optical illusion that only occurs when the moon 432 00:24:16,220 --> 00:24:18,420 is seen near the horizon. 433 00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:23,700 And the reason why it is currently a great time to look out 434 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:29,140 for this illusion is that we're at a point in an 18.6-year cycle, 435 00:24:29,140 --> 00:24:33,140 which means the fuller phases of the moon appear low to the horizon 436 00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:34,940 at this time of year. 437 00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:37,660 You may have already seen July's full moon, 438 00:24:37,660 --> 00:24:42,260 which barely scraped ten degrees above the southern horizon - 439 00:24:42,260 --> 00:24:47,180 that's less than the width of your clenched fist at arm's length. 440 00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:51,020 The shallow angle of rising and setting for the fuller phase of 441 00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:55,420 the moon means it appears closer to the horizon for longer than usual. 442 00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:58,180 And that's great for looking out for the moon illusion. 443 00:24:59,780 --> 00:25:02,860 Good nights to look for it in mid-July will be 444 00:25:02,860 --> 00:25:05,700 on the 14th or 15th of July, 445 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:08,540 at around 2340 BST, 446 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:10,700 when a waning gibbous moon will appear above 447 00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:12,860 the east-southeast horizon. 448 00:25:12,860 --> 00:25:15,940 Then again, on the 8th and 9th of August, 449 00:25:15,940 --> 00:25:19,340 you can see the same effect with the full moon rising 450 00:25:19,340 --> 00:25:24,300 over the south-east horizon from around 2115 BST. 451 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:27,700 However, photographing these moons can be disappointing, 452 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:30,420 and there have been many people who've seen a huge moon 453 00:25:30,420 --> 00:25:33,860 on the horizon, taken a photograph of it with their phone, 454 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:35,020 looked at the result, 455 00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:37,820 and been disappointed how small the moon looks. 456 00:25:37,820 --> 00:25:41,340 But for amateur photographers, it's all about the framing. 457 00:25:42,780 --> 00:25:46,420 The key to getting a great picture simulating the effect 458 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:49,500 is to ensure you have included something on the horizon 459 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,860 to create the perspective your eye perceives. 460 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:56,820 To do this, you ideally want to use a long focal length lens, 461 00:25:56,820 --> 00:25:58,540 or a telescope, 462 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:01,540 and you want to frame the image to include some interesting - 463 00:26:01,540 --> 00:26:06,020 but distant - foreground object in the field of view. 464 00:26:06,020 --> 00:26:08,980 Get it right, and the effect can be very impressive. 465 00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:13,180 Despite the long daytime periods, 466 00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:16,140 there's plenty more to see at this time of year. 467 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:19,340 As always, you can check out my more detailed star guide, 468 00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:21,140 which is available at... 469 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:32,340 Ever since I started out in research, 470 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:35,660 I have just fallen deeper and deeper in love with exoplanets, 471 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:38,420 because we're not just discovering these incredible, 472 00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:40,060 strange new worlds, 473 00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:42,180 we're also gaining a deeper understanding 474 00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:43,860 of how the universe works. 475 00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:47,020 And I cannot wait to see what my guy Plato 476 00:26:47,020 --> 00:26:50,660 and exoplaneteers in general just go on to discover. 477 00:26:50,660 --> 00:26:52,820 ..surprising egg-shaped planets. 478 00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:55,020 There are eyeball planets. 479 00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:57,860 There are marshmallow planets, candyfloss planets, 480 00:26:57,860 --> 00:26:59,460 and even popcorn... 481 00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:06,020 But before we go, there is one more thing. 482 00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:08,900 This month marks 25 years since Chris Lintott 483 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:10,740 first appeared on The Sky At Night. 484 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:12,580 And, in celebration of that, 485 00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:14,620 here's some of his best bits. 486 00:27:14,620 --> 00:27:16,660 And now, on to our main theme. 487 00:27:16,660 --> 00:27:17,700 Here we go! 488 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:19,420 Ready for take-off. 489 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:20,860 And with me, Chris Lintott, 490 00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:22,780 welcome to The Sky At Night, Chris. Thank you. 491 00:27:22,780 --> 00:27:25,820 Tonight's programme - we want to talk about the Saturnian moons. 492 00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:26,980 An annular eclipse. 493 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:28,260 Cosmic ghouls. 494 00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:29,940 Galactic cannibalism. 495 00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:31,140 And I can't wait! 496 00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:33,420 It's going to be really exciting. 497 00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:35,300 We're watching the team at Mission Control, 498 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:36,620 and they look pretty calm - 499 00:27:36,620 --> 00:27:38,580 calmer than I feel, anyway. 500 00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:42,140 And that was the annular eclipse! CHEERING 501 00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:43,660 Chris, where are you? 502 00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:45,460 I'm at the Institute of Astronomy, 503 00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:47,460 in the dome of my favourite telescope. 504 00:27:47,460 --> 00:27:49,060 This is the Cam, in Cambridge, 505 00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:51,340 and we're just coming under the mathematical bridge. 506 00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:53,620 I'm here on the Isidis Planitia. 507 00:27:53,620 --> 00:27:56,620 I think you'd find Mars a pretty pleasant place to be. 508 00:27:56,620 --> 00:27:59,220 Well, it's flat and red. 509 00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:01,580 One of the problems in exploring the solar system 510 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:03,380 are the sheer distances involved. 511 00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:05,420 Maybe we just need to think bigger. 512 00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:07,580 Seriously, this is too many Chrises! 513 00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:10,180 I don't think I expected that. 514 00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:12,580 Well, there it is! Everyone cheering... 515 00:28:12,580 --> 00:28:15,020 LOUD CHEERING Yes! So, so... 516 00:28:15,020 --> 00:28:16,780 It's been absolutely incredible. 517 00:28:16,780 --> 00:28:19,620 APPLAUSE I think people are quite happy. 518 00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:22,740 So, I'm not sure what any of that means. What do you reckon? 519 00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:24,940 I don't understand it at all. 520 00:28:24,940 --> 00:28:26,540 Thank you very much, Chris. 521 00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:28,380 And, from The Sky At Night, goodnight. 522 00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:30,500 Goodnight. 40830

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