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DENNIS:
All right.
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Uh, let's get started.
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(clears throat)
What do you guys want to know?
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♪
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NARRATOR: The circumstances
surrounding the death of
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the woman born
Maureen Ponderosa
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captivated South Philadelphia.
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(indistinct
police radio chatter)
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She was discovered in an alley
with a broken neck.
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In 2013, Maureen had begun
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her transition to a cat.
(cat mews)
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And in her cat form,
she went by the name Bastet
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to honor the Egyptian god
of cats.
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(cat yowls)
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The story quickly became fodder
for local media.
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So much for having nine lives.
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This cat did not land
on her feet.
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She landed on her neck.
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NARRATOR:
Authorities soon focused
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on the suspicious nature
of her death.
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GIRARD:
My name is Lance Girard.
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I've been with the Philadelphia
Police Department for 24 years,
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12 of which were with
the Homicide division.
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I've seen a lot of things.
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A man wants to turn himself
into a woman?
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Okay. Who am I to judge?
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But, really, a cat?
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What's next? A watermelon?
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(camera clicks)
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First thing we wanted
to establish is
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to whether the deceased
was acting strange.
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Not like "I'm turning myself
into a cat" strange.
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More like suicide strange.
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We learned that she was excited
about an upcoming surgery,
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a, uh, reverse nipplectomy.
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That's where
they add more nipples.
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(cat meows)
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I guess--
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I don't know--
she wanted more nipples.
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The thought of that just
makes me want to blow my lunch.
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Now, apparently,
the ex-husband was on the hook
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for this surgery
due to an alimony arrangement.
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He wasn't happy about it.
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That's when he became
our primary suspect.
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DENNIS:
Was I irritated by this?
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Yeah, of course I was.
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I mean, it was the most
expensive procedure yet.
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You know,
but I-I remained supportive
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and, uh, kept my cool.
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And I never threatened her
in any way.
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Now, due to the nature
of this call,
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we decided to bring him in
for questioning.
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(indistinct
police radio chatter)
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And he cooperated.
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Said he wanted
to clear his name.
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GIRARD:
He answered every question.
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Even offered DNA samples.
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Although he did request
to draw his own blood,
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which is kind of strange.
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Mr. Reynolds was forthright.
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Charming, quite frankly.
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GIRARD:
It wasn't until I reviewed
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the interrogation footage later
that I saw it.
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Something very unsettling.
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24 years on the job,
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I'd never seen anything
like it.
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Two hours.
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Never moved.
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Never blinked.
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Gives me goose bumps
just thinking about it.
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He had all the right answers,
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but my gut told me
this guy was guilty.
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Of something.
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Did I kill Maureen? No.
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Am I glad she's dead? Sure.
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NARRATOR: Maureen's family was
convinced of Dennis's guilt.
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(snorts)
Maureen?
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Maureen died three years ago.
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Dennis killed Bastet, all right?
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And let me tell you something.
He did us all a favor.
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You ever seen a grown woman
take a dump in a sandbox?
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NARRATOR: Despite conjecture,
the question still remained:
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Was there anything
in Dennis Reynolds' past
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that would suggest him
capable of murder?
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Testing. Testing.
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Syphilis. Syphilis. (laughs)
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That's... Well, yeah...
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Well, he kind of...
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snapped the neck, uh, off a crow
one time a little bit.
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But that... but that's not
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not normal right, you know?
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(laughs)
I mean, it was just like boys
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being boys. Yeah. That...
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Look, we had a totally
normal childhood, and...
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Look, Dennis wouldn't
hurt a fly. No way.
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FRANK:
Whatever Deandra says is BS.
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She's probably just
covering for him
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because she's afraid he's gonna
snap her neck like that crow.
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(crow cawing)
DEE: He didn't just snap it.
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He broke the thing's head
clean off.
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It was gruesome.
(snap)
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I still have nightmares
about it.
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And I'm old.
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She told you what?
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No, no, no, no. No, no.
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Look... that crow was injured,
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and I was simply
putting it out of its misery,
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while, yes, testing the tensile
strength of a crow's neck.
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Well, yes,
there was another crow,
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but that's because
I simply couldn't believe
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that a crow's neck
could be that weak.
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Well, yes,
there was a third crow,
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and a fourth, if you must know,
but who likes crows?
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FRANK: Look, if you can kill
a crow, you can kill a cat.
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(crow cawing)
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(echoing):
Cat, cat, cat...
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That's why I started recording
all our conversations.
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I suspected Frank
was probably recording
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all of our conversations,
because of course he would.
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But let me tell you something,
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he was no fan of Maureen's,
either.
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He was just trying
to deflect attention,
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which is why I started recording
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all of our conversations
as well.
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I could have worn a goddamn
IMAX camera around my neck
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and he wouldn't have noticed.
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The old bitch.
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And I caught him saying
some pretty troubling stuff.
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What are we watching here?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cats, cats.
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Is that me?
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Cats. I'll tell you what to do
with cats.
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Who shot this thing? Dennis?
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Here's what you do with cats.
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Back in the sweatshop in 'Nam,
we found a cat,
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we tossed it right in the soup.
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Those hungry bastards
ate cat soup every day.
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What's the worst thing
that could happen?
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Some little kid choke
on a hairball and die.
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So then you toss him
in the soup.
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I was making money hand
over foot, literally.
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Somebody lost a hand or a foot,
I'd toss it in the soup.
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(burps)
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Well, that's all a lie.
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(burps)
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Uh, there was no soup.
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(burps)
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Nope.
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There's no sweatshop.
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(muffled burping)
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Excuse me.
I got to go to the can.
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(static crackling)
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NARRATOR: Investigators wanted
to verify the timeline
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Dennis provided to authorities.
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DENNIS:
Like I told the police, uh,
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Mac and I were watching a movie
back at the apartment,
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and then I went to the bar.
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That's true. We were watching
Operation Dumbo Drop.
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We were doing this amazing thing
that I came up with,
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where we watch an old movie,
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and then I turn
the volume down really low
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and we make wiseacre remarks
the entire time.
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Yeah, he didn't come up with it.
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It's just
Mystery Science Theater 3000.
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It's a spin on that.
It's exactly that.
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Well, there's no robots.
So it's worse.
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Oh, come on, Dennis.
It's funny.
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It-It's not funny.
It's not funny at all,
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because you can never
think of jokes on the fly.
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H-He, like,
pauses the movie
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to try and think of
something funny to say,
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and then he never can
think of anything funny,
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so he ends up just saying a line
from Borat or Austin Powers.
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It's super annoying and
played-out, and it's not funny.
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Well, uh, like this.
"Get in my belly."
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But you're never referring
to anything when you say it.
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"Yeah, baby.
Get in my belly."
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Well, that's two
different characters.
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That's Mike Myers.
It's not Mike Myers.
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It's... it's
multiple characters
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that Mike Myers plays
in-in the same movie.
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Multiple characters
in the same movie?
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What is he, a wizard?
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Look, it's funny, Dennis.
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It's not funny.
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Are we done with this?
Can we be done?
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I'm tired of saying the same
things over and over again.
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Well, wait. Wh-- hold-- Dennis,
d-don't leave without me.
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I mean, dude, look,
are you mad at me?
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NARRATOR: Investigators could
find no discrepancies
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in the timeline.
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But then...
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a twist.
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He totally could have done it.
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Now, supposably, Dennis didn't
see Maureen that night,
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but remember that Maureen
was once Dennis's...
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(imitates Borat):
"Wife. Very nice."
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That was Borat.
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It was Friday, payday.
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Maureen always came
into Paddy's
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to pick up her alimony check,
ASAP.
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NARRATOR: To avoid confusion,
it should be pointed out
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that in a bizarre twist,
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Deandra Reynolds refused to
be a part of this documentary
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unless we allowed her
to play Maureen
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in the reenactment.
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(cat meows)
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MAC: And Dennis always made
a big show
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of getting her
with the spray bottle.
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You know,
because cats hate water.
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(cat yowling)
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So, you see, Dennis totally saw
Maureen that night.
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Charlie was there.
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Why hasn't he spoken up?
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Probably because Dennis...
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intimidated him.
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Oh, I just thought it'd be
more dramatic if I...
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Oh, come on, come on.
I didn't lie.
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I just left out some facts
that are insignificant.
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And-and intimidate Charlie?
Please. What am I gonna do?
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Call him on the phone
and threaten him?
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No, I know. But, I mean,
if Mac's gonna do it,
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then, you know, I'm gonna do it.
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(bell clanging)
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(chuckles)
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At this point
in the interrogation,
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Christ, I was at a loss.
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NARRATOR:
Further inspection
of Dennis Reynolds' safe
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revealed a cache
of suspicious items.
(siren wailing)
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DENNIS:
Awesome.
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NARRATOR:
So while Mr. Kelly's statements
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were clearly unreliable and
would need to be thrown out,
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another breakthrough came:
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autopsy results
came back from the lab.
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Um...
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Look, is getting groomed
like a cat by your ex weird?
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Yep.
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Is it illegal?
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(chuckles) I wish.
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NARRATOR: The investigation
was at a crossroads.
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Then another massive break.
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FRANK: Dennis has an answer
for everything.
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Well, answer me this:
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Where's the collar?
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(camera clicks)
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(cat meows)
Cats have collars.
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Maureen's body
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didn't have a collar on it.
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Killers keep trophies.
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Alls I'm saying,
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find the collar,
find the killer.
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NARRATOR: This is not the first
time the collar came up.
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Dee Reynolds had, oddly,
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made the collar an issue
during filming.
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DEE:
Hey. Stop!
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Stop! Stop with the squirting!
Stop! Cool it!
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We said one spray
and then my line.
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I... It was in my contract
that we talked...
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I put one squirt in there
for... on purpose.
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And this collar! I...
Th-There's something wrong
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with the collar.
It's driving me nuts.
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It... is an actual flea collar?
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You son of a bitch.
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I-I really think
the water activated
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some kind of, like, chemical
agent. My-my neck's burning.
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NARRATOR: Was the flea collar
actually burning her,
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as she claimed?
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Are you serious?
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Yes, asshole!
It was burning my skin!
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You want to zoom in on this?!
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NARRATOR:
Hard to say.
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But maybe there was
another reason she removed it.
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FRANK:
Whatever Deandra says is BS.
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She's probably just covering
for him because she's afraid
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he's gonna snap her neck
like that crow.
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(crow caws)
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NARRATOR: Maybe Deandra
didn't want to wear the collar
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in order to cover
for her brother
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and to establish that Maureen
never wore a collar at all.
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We then discovered something
in this piece of footage
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that blew the doors wide open
on this case.
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Was I a person of interest?
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Yeah.
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I am an interesting person.
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But at the end of the day,
you know,
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I'm just some guy
with a crazy ex-wife
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who fell off of a roof
pretending to be a cat.
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That's the end of it.
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All my stories checked out.
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I was cleared. Case closed.
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FRANK: Find the collar,
find the killer.
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Find the collar,
find the killer.
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DENNIS: ...'cause a dog
is who I am now!
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WRESTLING ANNOUNCER:
...hit the referee!
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FRANK:
Find the collar...
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MAC (imitates Borat):
"Very nice."
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FRANK: Find the collar,
find the killer.
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♪
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Guys, this was an open-and-shut
case that was shut months ago.
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And Maureen never wore a collar.
You guys put that there.
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Well, yeah, we needed
a big twist at the end
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to show that you're guilty.
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But I'm-I'm not guilty.
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What about the security footage
of Maureen's death?
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I mean, it shows her
prancing around on the roof
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like an asshole,
and then she just falls off.
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CHARLIE:
People don't want to see that,
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because it's hard evidence,
you know what I mean? Yeah.
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CHARLIE: Like, it's better
to actually sit on that footage
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until, like, maybe episode
ten, and then let people
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decide then if you're
guilty or not.
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Ten episo... You're gonna do
ten episodes of this?
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Yeah, but then even then
we would keep it vague.
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I mean, 'cause
that's entertainment, you know?
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Someone gets murdered,
and then you make a show.
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But you never give
any actual answers,
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because that's
what people love.
No.
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You drag it out. You rake it
all over the victim's family.
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It's sort of like eating
a bag of chips, you know?
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It's never gonna
actually make you full,
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and at the end you're sick,
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but you want
to go back for more.
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You want more chips.
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Murder is chips.
Okay,
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you know what, I don't know
what you guys are talking about,
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but I'm gonna find these tapes,
and I'm gonna destroy them.
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Well, we have backups,
so it... Oh, you know what?
Yeah.
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That could make a good episode,
where he's destroying--
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Let's think about that, right?
He's destroying the tapes...
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MAC:
You know what,
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that would be
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(imitates Borat):
"very nice."
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(Mac and Charlie laughing)
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Is that Borat?
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Yes! See?
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He gets it.
He's laughing.
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Yeah, 'cause I know he
was doing an impression.
He's laughing.
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Okay, wait, uh, let me...
let me think of another one.
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Let me think of another one.
"I'll be back."
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CHARLIE: Oh... (stammers)
Who is that? Who is that?
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(trio chanting backwards)
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