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I saw this city in the deep deep distance, it was dark green
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and there were many lights flickering and clouds flowing over it.
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And all this started after a tremendous geometric patterns
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that are incredibly rapid that
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You cannot it describe it to anybody, they are so fast
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After this slown down I saw this city in the deep distance.
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So I was sort of watching that and then that ball of light got right pass me, right in front of me, like
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"What was that?" It didn't scare me except it was so close.
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After that I started looking around and it's like you're in this place
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and you're going "Why am I in this place?"
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and then I noticed there is this woman off to my right with a real long nose, green skin
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she was turning this dial and I realized she was turning the volume of lights up and down
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on the city in the distance.
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And as soon as I looked at her she noticed I was watching her and she said
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"What else do you want?" I said, "What else do you have?"
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"The Spirit Molecule"
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This is the story of "DMT" or dimethyltryptamine.
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A simple compound found throghout nature which has
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profound effects on human consciousness.
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One of the things besides what it does, one of things about DMT that
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that always fascinated me was the fact that it is such a simple molecule.
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DMT stands for Dimethyltryptamine. N-N-dimethyltryptamine.
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If actually you look at the ring structure of DMT itself
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will only have really four positions you can attach things to.
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So, you can make diethyl, dipropyl, there are some other types of carbon change you can attach to that end
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that do give you compounds that have activity, but very different from DMT.
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Biosynthetically it's two steps from tryptophan. Right.
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Two trivial enzymatic steps from tryptophan.
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Well, tryptophan is an amino acid and it's everywhere.
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So all organisms have tryptophan and all organisms have the two key enzymes that lead to synthesis of DMT
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and these enzymes are very ancient enzymes, the're all over the place, they are a gem part of basic metabolism.
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So, theoretically, anything could synthesize DMT.
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DMT is astonishingly widely available in plants and animals all around the world
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but so far nobody knows why it's there! Or what its function is.
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That is a 64 billion dollars question.
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Why is DMT in our bodies? Why is it in plants, all sorts of mammals?
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What is the role it plays in humans?
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The conventional wisdom 30, 40 years ago was that
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these things had no real function and they were just sort of
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a physiological noise. That's a very naive understanding and
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what we now understand is that these secondary compounds are,
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in a sense, the language of plants.
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These are 'messenger' molecules.
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This is what plants use to mediate their relationships with other organisms in the environment.
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Why is it that human beings' actual nervous systems
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are wired to receive this experience?
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Must be, that a, you know, there's important information to be learned.
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So I don't think it's universally present in nature by accident.
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It has a real function, we have co-evolved with these plants.
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There is a purpose in it and a meaning to it.
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So it really fits in with the notion, that DMT may be the common
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molecular language.
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Resonant language among all living beings on this planet
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and maybe others as well.
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I can't think of a more powerful tool
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to explore the whole question of: What is consciousness?
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These substances are tools that can be used
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to expand awareness in all areas of life and
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apply that expanded awareness for the betterment
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of people's lifes, communities and families and all society.
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The good news is that there is a growing number of westerners and
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actually intellectuals, scientists, artists, movers and shakers, filmmakers and so on
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who realize that this stuff is all too interesting
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just to go on keeping it swept under the rug.
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And meanwhile, the Inquisition was a long time ago
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the birth of rationalism was a long time ago
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At this point there is no good reason, apart from bad habit, to keep up these barriers.
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With the help of two concepts, that are traditionally opposed:
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Science and spirituality
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we humbly re-introduce psychedelics back in to the cultural dialogue.
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DMT - the spirit molecule, you know, it's a conundrum, it's a paradox.
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The spirit is the inner world, the molecule is the external world.
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So the psychedelics are entheogens, take us from the science to the spirit.
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I was drown to the pineal gland, which is a very small organ
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in the center of the brain, which has always been an object of interest
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and even veneration for a lot of esoteric physiological disciplines.
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I thought, you know, it wasn't totally crazy to presume a
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pineal's sign of origin of DMT,
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which, you know, fit in nicely with my theory that the pineal was somehow
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involved in naturally accuring mystical states.
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This hypothesis proposes that the pineal gland, in certain times, it's
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under specific stress stimulation, it releases a significant amount of this hormone, DMT.
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And that's that hormone that facilitates the entrying and exiting of the soul in the body.
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This is what the Jewish sage mystics have been describing
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in a coded language for literally thousands of years.
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Through meditation, through fasting, chanting, any number of techniques
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their might be a bourst of endogenous DMT
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that is correlated with mystical and near-death experiences .
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I had this theory that there is a big similarity between psychedelics and
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experiences that were possible with a lot of meditation.
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And that was one of the original findings that led me to start looking for a "spirit molecule."
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For a compound in the brain that released mystical experience.
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I think there may be a role for DMT in explaining any number of
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hallucinatory phenomena that man has experienced throughout his history.
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Creativity, imagination, dream states,
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changes that occur due to isolation,
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trauma, starvation, all of which produce hallucinatory phenomena.
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These hallucinatory phenomena are explainable
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by the presence of compounds known to produce hallucinations.
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And the only compounds we know are capable of doing this
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are the class of compounds knows as hallucinogens.
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When thinking about spiritual states,
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I think endogenous hallucinogenic compounds and molecules
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that the brain can potentially release
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are probably very relevant to this topic because
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on one hand, they may really help us to elucidate
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what is the neuro-chemical mechanism of these experiences. I mean
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if we can say that there is a release of endogenous opioids or we can say that there's a release
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of dopamine or something like that
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and we can measure that release and we can see where in the brain those different molecules go.
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What receptors they activate or deactivate.
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And hence we can learn really a lot more about what these experiences are
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because it can really allow us to match up these experiences
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that people have with hallucinogens
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as well as understanding where are they related in the context of the brain's receptors
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and the different parts of the brain that can merely not become active.
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One of the other interesting things about the pharmacology of DMT
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is that it is actively transported into the brain,
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and so you have to wonder about the world of DMT in just every day normal perceptual, you know, activity.
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Too much DMT and things become very psychedelic or you know
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not enough, you know, DMT and the brain can make things dull and flat and gray.
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There's something that, for me, makes sense about DMT. You call it the "spirit molecule"
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To me it must be called the "reality molecule"
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Philosophically, it makes sense that something that would be so fundamental to em
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the way we perceive reality, would be in..em out there in reality.
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There was a sense about it was something special.
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That it wasn't like anything else. That wasn't like other psychodelics.
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Its intensity and speed was such that it really produced a different kind of response.
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I mean, I remember almost getting the sense that is was a kind of like a, like a psychedelic bungee jump.
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That there was a kind of raw leap into this rapidly changing environment
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that was very different from the more gradual approaches of other psychedelics.
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Smoking DMT is sort of like the drive-by shooting of psychedelics.
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You're in one place, BANG, you're in another place and then BANG, you're back down.
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So it doesn't leave a whole lot of room for that narrative of
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"Who am I?" "What am I doing here?" "Why am I in this space?" "What am I learning?"
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It's almost like there was too much information to process in a few minute span
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to integrate once you're dropped back down.
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Dimethyltryptamine, when is administrated, has a very rapid onset
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and a very short duration of action.
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This is because it is very rapidly broken down by the body so that it can be cleared.
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DMT is rapidly degraded by an enzyme in the liver called monoamine oxidase (MAO).
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That is the reason why is not active when you take it by mouth.
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In contrast, psilocybin
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when you take it by mouth, it is not broken down by monoamine oxidase very quickly at all
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so it gets through the liver and passes on into the bloodstream and into the brain.
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Yea, I'm very interested in Ayahuasca.
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When I begun my studies in the early 1990's,
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Ayahuasca was just starting make it roads into the West.
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Obviously it has become a lot more popular in the last 10, 15 years.
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And the visionary ingredient in Ayahuasca is DMT.
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Through some amazing feed of preliterate chemistry, the Amazonian natives
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stumbled upon or combined, whatever. I don't know how they did it but they
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found one plant contains DMT and one plant containes an enzyme inhibitor.
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Combine them and you can drink DMT and it's orally active.
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So it starts working in half an hour, last 3 or 4 hours
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and you can, you know, maneuver a lot more comfortably
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within that state then you can when you're just smoking it injecting it.
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Orally active Ayahuasca tends to pick you up and gently carry you into the space and hug you
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and embrace you and clean you and
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show you all sorts of mystical visions and then it very gently brings you back
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like you're floating on a feather back to the ground.
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As valuable as my DMT experiences have been, I, em,
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I feel there is lot more enduring value, really, in this folk technology
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which streches it out and makes a navigable space.
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Our whole western, you know, European-drived tradition of destilling alcohols and
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isolating chemicals and making everything stronger
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and taking it and out of nature and putting it into the biggest punch that we can.
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I do not think that, generally, that's the most useful way.
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I think there's a reason that cultures have learned to turn a 5 minute experience
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into a 5 hour experience.
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It seems to me that Ayahuasca has had a plan and that its reached out
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into the world and brough DMT into many many thousands of lives
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much bigger canvas than it had reached for the last ten thousands or however many years,
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and it has done very rapidly, and it has done with form to go with it.
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The Ayahuasca is much harder
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for the power structures that we have now, it's much harder for them to put down
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because it has been a part of a legitimate religious and spiritual practice
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for thousands of years, certainly in the Amazon.
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And we can't just dismissal that as primitive mumbo-jumbo and superstition.
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We have to get a grips with that on its own terms.
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I think there is a growing number of people who feel this desire
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get back in touch with nature
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with plants, with animals and who know
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that through the shamanic path, there is way of doing this and that
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actually these tools, these psychoactive tools for plants like Ayahuasca is a very
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direct way of doing this. Now
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it may not be everybody's cup of tea and I think
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a lot of people are actually, with a reason, afraid of it.
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I think like a lot of people in my generation
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I first heard about DMT through Terence McKenna
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there was a very funny way to become aware of such a poweful and interesting
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and anthropologically rich topic as a compound like DMT because
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it really became more, it was more of a concept
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then something that people were necessarily taking.
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DMT flash makes it clear that a disembodied consciousness is a possibility.
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I that think the whole tension of history and the tension of life seems to be about the shedding of the body.
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Terence was very ... he was a good promoter.
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Basically he said it's the ultimate metaphysical reality pill.
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Even though it's not a pill but
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I though that was a pretty good characterization after I took it.
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It would seem to be of a different order then LSD and mescaline and some of other things that were around.
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DMT really did seem to be a whole different level of experience.
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I ask you to suspend any opinions, either negative or positive about these compounds.
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Whatever you believe their value to be
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they continue to have profound effects wherever we find their use,
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whether it's contemporary Western culture or in the Amazon rainforest.
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It was in the 50's that the Ayahuasca churches starting going public.
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You know there was a kind of transition from indigenous Indians to mestizo people in cities
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and then these churches - the Santo Daime church and then the UDV church later
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started doing ceremonies that would made
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the Ayahuasca accessable not just to Indians
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but to urban people in big cities
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who are as far from the shamans as we are.
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In the early 1990's, the UDV established
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a branch of their church in the United States.
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In the late 90's the U.S. customs department along with the DEA intercepted a shipment of ayahuasca.
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The church protested the goverment action, they contented that it violated
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the religious freedom restoration act.
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And the case was heard in the U.S. Supreme Court, and in February 2006
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their decision was announced and it was a unanimous decision on the side of the UDV.
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Why is it that in the entire Western world, these substances that have been found to be
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so interesting by a hundreds of cultures for thousands of years are prohibited?
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How did these cultures that consider themselves to be enlightened
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democratic and scientific get to declaring plants "illegal"?
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It can seem weird, but there's clearly something deep and revealing
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about the nature of these societes.
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Our society values enlight problem solving and consciousness
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devalues all other states of consciousness.
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Any other kind of consciousness that is not related
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to the production or consumption of material goods
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is stigmatized in our society today.
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Of course, we accept drunkenness.
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We allow people some brief respite from the material grind.
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A society that subscribes to that a model is a society
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that is going to condamn the states of consciousness
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that have nothing to do with the enlight problem-solving mentality.
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And if you go back to the 1960s, when there was a tremendous upsearch of exploration of psychedelics
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I would say that the huge backlash that followed that had to do with the fear on the part of the powers that be. That
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if enough people went into those realms, had those experiences
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the very fabric of the society we have today would be picked apart
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and most importantly,
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those in power at the top would not be in power at the top any more.
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There was an optimism that was ungrounded, you know
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the Vietnam was happening, all this real stuff was going on.
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and that the psychodelic movement wasn't really addressing that
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in a real way. And that Timothy and that, that bunch sold us a fuss, a bill of goods that didn't really work.
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"We are now, whether we like it or not, is a psychochemical age.
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In the future, it's not going to be what book you read, it's going to be what chemicals do you use
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to open or close your conscienceness.
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Chemicals can help us learn faster, chemicals can help us
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expand or contract our consciousness."
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The atmosphere in the 1960s was
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"We're doing research here, we are dedicating our lives
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to trying just about everything on the planet."
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So we'd try it, the we would talk about it the we'd evaluated.
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We regarded ourselves more or less as "spiritual pioneers."
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The way I look at the 60s you can see as a kind of failed attempt
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at a mass, cultural voyage of initiation.
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People would, you know, try to go out to these other realities, but they didn't have a basis
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there weren't wisdom traditions, elders, there weren't like connections of shamanic lineages.
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People would grow out and they would like kinda smash apart.
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Timothy Leary really so discredited a scientific approach to studying this
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because we started off doing interesting research and then
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got into advocating use in a way that was incredibly threatening. Culturally we reacted
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and politically it became impossible to do this sort of research.
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Funding agencies didn't make resources available, regulatory agencies
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increased the practical hurtals for initiating this kind of research.
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And I think people, who had interest in research
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of this type largely were discredited because
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of their interest in the research.
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Social, political, scientific issues
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that came together pushed these drugs out of the scientific marketplace.
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The public opinion in many cases had become that psychedelic research was dangerous.
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The wide public was uninformed about the true nature of these compounds
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and what their importance may be in the understanding of perception itself.
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One of the tragedies to me is that the clinical research
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on these substances pretty much stopped
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around 1970.
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And for me it is especially tragic because
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I really believe that these substances played a mayor role
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on the development of our philosophy
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and thinking throughout the world.
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What a lot of people don't realize is that psychiatry up until the 50s
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in the field in general had no concept that
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neurochemistry played any role in emotion or behavior,
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which today seems really bizarre. And the
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discovery of LSD and its potent effects on the human psyche
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occurred almost contemporaneously with the discovery of serotonin
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as a molecule in the brain.
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And it was really when people looked at the structure of serotonin
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and compared it with LSD that they really began to think, you know
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"Maybe, neurochemistry plays a role in brain chemistry and, and behavioral
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states". If LSD had not been discovered, I doubt we would have
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any of the drugs we have or at least not as quickly
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as we do have for treating depression and so forth.
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Once these drugs became abused and scandalized, psychiatry had to really work hard
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you know, to distance themselves from any valid scientific, you know, scientifically meritorious relationship with psychedelics.
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Being a psychiatrist and saying you want to learn or study about psychedelics it's, you know, it's not that well received.
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And a, And I made one mention, one time that
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I was really discouraged from bringing it up again for actually a number of years.
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For cultural reasons
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the whole class of compounds got pulled of the clinical bench
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and no research was going on for 40 years.
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So scientifically, I can't imagine a more exciting area to be persuing
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How does one go about studying these plants and compounds?
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Plants and compounds which produce unimaginable experiences
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and can put a shed of light on one of humanity's greatest mysteries
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In order, to answer that question,
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Dr. Strassman conducted the first
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human psychedelic research in a generation.
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One of the things that I had established early on was being able to descriminate
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between studies in the scientific round and recreational use.
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But in the early 1980s I reviewed all of that literature and could pretty well established
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on that if people were really carefully screened
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and supervised and then followed up that the incidents and adversary reactions to LSD
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and related psychodelic drugs was extremely low.
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The drug or the compound or the chemical that seemed like the best candidate
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to sort of reopen the U.S. front on psychodelic research, would be DMT.
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It was really exciting for me because I though this is the first study
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in a generation, and not only that.
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Despite the fact that DMT had been used safely in earlier studies
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and it was a natural component of the brain
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DMT is one of the most profound and potent psychedelics known.
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So it wasn't just an initiation of clinical research
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it was a reinitiation of clinical research with an extremely potent drug.
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I was at a strong opinion that you could do this studies
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and Rick agreed so we had a number of discussions
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and at some point the discussion came up, you know
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"Dave, what if I do all this paperwork and spend all this time
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and get to end of things and I'm ready to go and I can't get the DMT? "
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And that was a real possibility, because DMT, clinical gray DMT
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wasn't a chemical used by on shelves somewhere
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And I told Rick: "If you get to that point, and no one will make it
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then I will do it. "
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And ultimately Rick got to that point, and I made it.
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The design of the study was fairly straightforward:
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give people DMT and measure as many variables as possible.
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I had to sort of anticipate a lot of objections that would come my way
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from the regulatory agencies that oversee this kind research.
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So at that point began a two-year process of dealing with
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not that many regulatory agencies, but fairly monolithic ones.
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One sort of the side line of the protocol
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was the involvement of a psychiatrist from UCLA named Daniel Freeman.
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He was a kind of one of the grand old men of American psychiatry
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and actually he was one of the people who in the 50 'and 60'
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got their start with psychedelic research.
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And the main thing that Daniel Freeman told Rick, told us, was
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"Don't even get close to psychotherapy."
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"Forget about treating mental illness or alcoholism or anything."
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"Forget that. That's what roll the hysterias up, that's roll the fears get up."
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"You're a scientist, Rick. Approach it as a scientist.
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Do basic simple measurements, look at heart-rate, cardiovascular suppressors."
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"You won't get in trouble doing that, you can get it founded and it's solid science."
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Rick did what he said, be has then he still was able to get these, you know, accounts of what happened
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That was not in the plan, was not what was really proposed in the studies that were founded
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That wasn't what Danny talked about.
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But those was the spin-off that really made it interesting.
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Rick Strassman, was advertising in some magazine somewhere
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about the wanting volunteers for a particular study
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in you know,psychotropic, and I didn't, didn't know DMT from STP at that time.
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I remember reading that and thinking "Oh my God, this is bad"
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"I better get involved in this and make sure that somebody doesn't get hurt and
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and at least there be some sensitivity towards what this stuff is really about."
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I met Rick's research nurse at a party
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and she heard me talking about that I had used peyote, ceremonially
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and she took me aside and said "There's something that you might be interested in"
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"We're looking for subjects, volunteer subjects for some unusual research."
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I was a little concerned that the study participants might be a litte obnoxious
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maybe that's not the right word but, you know, people that were just seeking to do a lot of drugs
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they were very professional people.
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They were varying degrees as to how much hallucinogen use they had been through. It seemed like
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there were some people that felt like they had made it kind of their life mission
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to experience every kind of substance out there.
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And then other poeple who, I think, were just interested for their own personal growth and curiosity.
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Once we actually got into the preparation for the actual trips,
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Rick asked me about roller coasters.
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"Do you like roller coasters?"
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"You know, the sensation of going up really high and then slamming back down towards earth."
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and I said "No, I hate them, their horrible"
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and he said "Not good."
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I just wanted to go with the experience, learn as much as I could, absorbe as much as I could
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and be humble to it.
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The idea of legally sanctioned psychedelics was just very compelling
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Plus, you're in a hospital so should you get that
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uncomfortable experience that you're dying, you're
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with doctors in a very safe environment from that point of view.
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I mean, this was very cutting edge, very, out there, very. It was high risk, and a
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people knew what they were getting into, and they wanted to have the extra reassurance
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and I was glad actually, to have a crash card in the room,
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and a team in the hospital to respond any emergencies.
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You're in this hospital room
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and there's all the sounds and the smells and just
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the prior experience is being in the hospital.
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You know, all these negative things come back so there was the
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whole environment to be overcomed
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because little did I know that it didn't matter where I was,
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I wasn't gonna be in my body, I was gonna be out in the universe
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and it didn't matter where you watched from, it could be a hospital room, it could be
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the jungle in the Amazon, it didn't matter where you were because you weren't gonna stay there.
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"Set & setting" is so important,
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it's even more important than the substance, more important than the substance
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"Set & setting" is everything.
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Now, what is the "set & setting" when you're blindfolded.
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The "set & setting" is not what you're seeing, because you're not seeing anything
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The "set & setting"is your internal self,
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the things that you have learned, the capacities that you have achieved,
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the conditions of your own psyche and psychology.
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These are your "set & setting".
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It's the medicine combined with the interacting with the "set & setting"
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that creates an effect of safety, of trust, of comfort and of resourcefulness
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and makes it possible for you to take some big leaps and receive some big gifts
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and if that's not there, you just get terrified.
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So I was, I didn't have really physical fear so much that they would die or have a stroke
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I did have some fears about peoples' mental health, you know
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especially with some of the higher doses.
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We gave one genteman, who had a lot of experience with the drug,
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one dose, and he didn't think it took him far enough
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So then we gave him a higher dose and he was gone,
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he was really gone, it reminded me of something from "The Exorcist", I mean
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he just fuum, stood fold-up on the bed and his eyes opened up and they were completely dilated and black,
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and I almost thought he was gonna turn his head completely around.
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I remember looking at Rick and Rick looked at me and I thought "Oh my God, he's gone, I hope he comes" and he did.
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The countdown was like, you know, cutting down for your.., preparing for your death, like waiting to surrender and...
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You'd feel the coldness, the coldness just going through your veins and it's really indescribable, it's hard to..
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you know, it's like ice going through your veins.
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And the next thing that would happen, besides my racing heart,
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is this burning sensation what happended on the back of my neck, I mean this was reliable, this is like clockwork, this happened every time that you shocked me up with DMT.
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And then there be a hum, and the hum will get louder and louder
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and to the point where it broke apart, everything that I was or knew, it was just this [sound]
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It was just louder and louder until you just had to surrender to the sound
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and then you were.. there.
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I would get a warmful feeling, a golden feeling in my chest, before it went to my head.
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I feel this warm rod, about an inch and a half in diameter start growing up inside my spinal canal.
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It would come up and sort of slow, warm up my chest, go up through my head
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Slow down and put tremendous pressure on my sightednesses behind my eyes, slow down.
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Start to grow and stand the skin behind my forehead about one inch behind my hairline when it and
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I thought it was gonna pop-up the skin a few times, because it is a very physical feeling.
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About and inch and a half, two inches above my skull.
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when it pop through there then the psychedelic tripping started.
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I thought I died.
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I saw the white clouds,
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Renaissance, white fluffy clouds, with the gods and the angels and that all stuff, that's what I saw.
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I thought I was dying and going out but
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I did take a quick look at Sindy and a quick look at Rick as I had my eyes open and
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they were both there watching, looking very calmly.
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And I thought "That's really good news, my body looks fine."
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So I didn't know whether it was my birth, I was re-experiencing
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my death which was yet to come because I, I know that
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time crubmles, the linearity of time is totally meaningless in these states.
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You are at the God-head, the point where all time folds in on itself.
457
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More and more layers of my humanity start peeling off
458
00:36:45,427 --> 00:36:48,740
finally
459
00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:52,931
The last, you know, almost the last layer and I can not even describe what it is
460
00:36:53,051 --> 00:37:02,537
but at some reaches way in there is like the last layer of that, which defines you as a human being
461
00:37:02,657 --> 00:37:05,421
and it goes [khkk].
462
00:37:05,541 --> 00:37:12,599
You're not longer a human being, in fact, you are no longer anything you can identify.
463
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,890
There is no concept of time, it was so disorienting
464
00:37:17,010 --> 00:37:22,946
I was so terrified, I have never in my entire life, been so terrified.
465
00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:26,046
To be blasted out of my body
466
00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:28,573
To leave my body behind, to be going
467
00:37:28,693 --> 00:37:33,437
at warp speed, backwards, through my own DNA,
468
00:37:33,557 --> 00:37:37,238
out the other end, into the universe.
469
00:37:39,956 --> 00:37:42,579
And so I went right under this white light.
470
00:37:42,699 --> 00:37:47,387
As soon as I went into it, I lost any sense of being different.
471
00:37:47,507 --> 00:37:52,688
Any sense of what I was doing, past, any sense of future.
472
00:37:53,308 --> 00:37:59,121
It was absolutely blissful and euphoric and I just felt like
473
00:37:59,710 --> 00:38:03,156
it wouldn't I. I was everything.
474
00:38:03,276 --> 00:38:12,097
475
00:38:03,276 --> 00:38:12,097
I was the light, there is no sense of separation, no shadows, no differences
476
00:38:12,217 --> 00:38:17,126
no past, no future, it was all present and a white-yellow light.
477
00:38:17,246 --> 00:38:20,759
Then I felt myself falling out of this light,
478
00:38:20,879 --> 00:38:28,303
and as I felt out of it, I could feel the light was like a glow, like the sun with flames coming out.
479
00:38:28,423 --> 00:38:33,332
Lapping out, and I could already start to feel this tremendous separation.
480
00:38:33,452 --> 00:38:39,200
I reached across and it was suddenly I'm in the Universe, in this huge void
481
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,714
with these beings on the other side and I
482
00:38:41,834 --> 00:38:50,935
put out my hands in this incredible rainbow of pink light, went between me and these entities.
483
00:38:51,055 --> 00:38:53,373
And i was trying to make it be like a white light.
484
00:38:53,493 --> 00:38:58,618
But it was this incredible pink light, this energy of love
485
00:38:58,738 --> 00:39:06,812
that we, this capacity of love, that we as humans beings have, that I was trying to just send to them.
486
00:39:10,675 --> 00:39:17,731
This meteorite trip through the infinite space of the interior consciousness is
487
00:39:18,084 --> 00:39:20,907
up pops the picture puzzled pattern door and
488
00:39:21,027 --> 00:39:27,066
I'm now whizzing through this sucker, like if it was nothing, I'm flying through it.
489
00:39:27,682 --> 00:39:32,136
But now I know what the picture puzzled pattern door is.
490
00:39:32,256 --> 00:39:38,888
The picture puzzled pattern door is the furthest reaches of your humanity.
491
00:39:39,008 --> 00:39:44,390
This is the doorway into the, what defines you as a human being.
492
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:51,572
When you go pass that, you stop being human to a degree
493
00:39:49,692 --> 00:39:55,774
and the further you get pass this point, the futher away you go from being a human being.
494
00:39:55,894 --> 00:40:01,289
But right here this picture puzzled pattern door is everything, it's everything what defines you as a human being.
495
00:40:01,409 --> 00:40:03,329
This is your ...
496
00:40:03,449 --> 00:40:05,928
This picture puzzled pattern door is you!
497
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:14,459
This is like the actual core of where all of reality is emanating from.
498
00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:18,106
This is where meaning comes from, symbols were pouring out, they were intertwined.
499
00:40:18,226 --> 00:40:25,784
Every symbol and, or letter in every language
500
00:40:25,904 --> 00:40:28,389
was pouring out of this point.
501
00:40:30,197 --> 00:40:36,620
And I looked around in my environment and I was trying to absorb everything, to understand
502
00:40:36,740 --> 00:40:43,329
but there were all of these machines or structures or things that
503
00:40:43,449 --> 00:40:47,437
I had never seen before, that I had no idea what they were
504
00:40:47,557 --> 00:40:50,361
I was like a caveman in a computer lab.
505
00:40:50,481 --> 00:40:54,987
I didn't have any idea, but I knew in my intellectual awarness that this
506
00:40:55,107 --> 00:40:59,187
was a very advanced civilization or
507
00:40:59,772 --> 00:41:02,187
life forms or whatever they were,
508
00:41:02,307 --> 00:41:07,386
they were, they were so far advanced from what we know here on Earth.
509
00:41:10,672 --> 00:41:15,405
There's one state of, in it, I call it "the hobby horses"
510
00:41:15,902 --> 00:41:23,058
and they're interlocking, articulating, vibrating hobby horses
511
00:41:23,242 --> 00:41:27,638
and I use that and that's what they seem like to me. They interlock and
512
00:41:28,174 --> 00:41:33,374
they form a visual pattern thats seems infinite in scape.
513
00:41:33,842 --> 00:41:38,291
And then you on the inside, outside, inside, everyside.
514
00:41:38,762 --> 00:41:47,181
And so it's less possible to use, you know, words sort of start to escape you.
515
00:41:49,597 --> 00:41:55,096
The texture of the space was very much like an animated Mexican tile.
516
00:41:55,216 --> 00:41:59,470
It seemed to be hyper vivid in color, in a technicolor sense.
517
00:41:59,590 --> 00:42:04,016
But also very clay-like in earth, you know, like with an earthen
518
00:42:05,139 --> 00:42:08,254
pointing towards Earth, but not really being on Earth.
519
00:42:11,334 --> 00:42:14,440
There was no eye, there was just a sense of a witness.
520
00:42:14,712 --> 00:42:18,196
Being suspended on this incredible vaulted space.
521
00:42:18,464 --> 00:42:24,526
Like a cathedral made out of a stained glass of all imaginable colors.
522
00:42:24,774 --> 00:42:27,950
Unbelievable brilliance and saturation of color.
523
00:42:28,070 --> 00:42:32,718
Just this amazing pattern in this dome, this gigantic dome, it was.
524
00:42:32,948 --> 00:42:36,925
It felt like, it was like the size of a small planet.
525
00:42:38,416 --> 00:42:44,636
And were these winged beings, I don't remember exactly what they looked like.
526
00:42:44,918 --> 00:42:51,608
Angels? Something like angels that were majestically kind of flying through the space.
527
00:42:51,877 --> 00:42:56,980
But there was something about the quality of how they were flying, it was unique and I've never seen anything like it.
528
00:42:57,257 --> 00:43:02,835
It was like a sense of another realm that was there.
529
00:43:03,702 --> 00:43:11,402
My sense was at some point, there was this implicit sense: "This is the divine realm. This is the divine realm.".
530
00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:17,439
It was not like a thought, but it like was this implicit kind of groaking (??) recognition.
531
00:43:17,633 --> 00:43:21,150
It was all very, very impersonal
532
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:27,468
until I got to this space where I realized that I was in the area
533
00:43:27,588 --> 00:43:29,971
where the souls await rebirth.
534
00:43:30,091 --> 00:43:32,773
And I was there and I had been there
535
00:43:32,893 --> 00:43:36,528
so many times before, I recognized it
536
00:43:36,648 --> 00:43:41,774
and this incredible transcendent peace came over me, I have never in my life
537
00:43:41,894 --> 00:43:44,575
ever felt such peace.
538
00:43:44,695 --> 00:43:49,046
Everything was stripped away, every hope, every fear, every attachment
539
00:43:49,821 --> 00:43:54,827
to the material world was completely stripped out of me.
540
00:43:54,947 --> 00:43:58,940
I was free to just be the essence of a soul.
541
00:44:02,257 --> 00:44:06,191
After the medicine wore off
542
00:44:06,311 --> 00:44:10,682
There is that familiar sensation of kind of coming back into the body
543
00:44:10,802 --> 00:44:11,847
I do remember that,
544
00:44:11,967 --> 00:44:15,326
that was part of almost all these experiences, of, kind of
545
00:44:15,634 --> 00:44:19,013
coalescing back into sensory awareness.
546
00:44:19,255 --> 00:44:22,888
And a sense of having a body, and of that becoming a little more substantial
547
00:44:23,122 --> 00:44:26,447
and "Oh yeah, here I am, I live in a body and I'm okay."
548
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,156
So Laura removes the eye shades
549
00:44:30,437 --> 00:44:34,238
and I ask not really with my eyes open quite yet.
550
00:44:34,358 --> 00:44:38,633
I ask: "How long I was gone?"
551
00:44:38,753 --> 00:44:40,507
Because I needed to know.
552
00:44:40,627 --> 00:44:43,524
And Rick chimes in like "15 minutes".
553
00:44:48,298 --> 00:44:52,052
For a moment I'm shocked. I'm like, you know.
554
00:44:54,034 --> 00:44:56,383
The mind has to try to catch up.
555
00:44:56,503 --> 00:45:02,999
Because now whe whole cognitive dissonance of the experience has to, has to catch up.
556
00:45:04,517 --> 00:45:07,745
I was gone for 15 minutes!
557
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:16,556
A thousand years of experience, in 15 minutes.
558
00:45:21,590 --> 00:45:27,203
Well, to say the least, it was profound, it was, it was profound.
559
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:34,421
I mean, it's amazing, it's amazing what a human being can experience
560
00:45:34,541 --> 00:45:37,494
in a hospital bed.
561
00:45:37,614 --> 00:45:41,079
I mean they can experience almost the whole universe
562
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:44,408
you know, life, death, everything in between.
563
00:45:44,528 --> 00:45:47,992
This is not some recreational thing
564
00:45:48,112 --> 00:45:52,601
and I don't believe anybody should enter this lightly,
565
00:45:52,721 --> 00:45:54,266
it is life-transformitive.
566
00:45:54,386 --> 00:45:59,003
It will perhaps shake you enough to realize
567
00:45:59,123 --> 00:46:01,947
you know, that you need to be awake to the fact that you don't know,
568
00:46:02,067 --> 00:46:05,788
and that is the beginning of starting to know.
569
00:46:06,940 --> 00:46:11,677
What we see here is such a tiny part of what is real.
570
00:46:11,797 --> 00:46:21,023
I get really frustrated, because awcourse there is no way to prove that where I went
571
00:46:21,143 --> 00:46:26,656
was deep space that I encountered, you know
572
00:46:26,776 --> 00:46:31,265
other entities, other life forms that exist in this universe.
573
00:46:31,385 --> 00:46:35,746
At some point maybe our civilization will become advanced enough and we will
574
00:46:36,184 --> 00:46:44,521
through off these anchors of impossible thought that these things are impossible, that it's not, you know
575
00:46:44,595 --> 00:46:48,219
everything that exists, exists where we can see it.
576
00:46:49,317 --> 00:46:52,646
I wrapped-up the studies in the `95 and a
577
00:46:53,798 --> 00:46:56,102
really just had to take a break for a couple of years.
578
00:46:56,222 --> 00:47:02,120
I was aware of a growing sense of discomfort with what I was doing
579
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,040
because I just couldn't explain it and a
580
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:12,746
seemed to me if I couldn't model an explain of what was going on, that I was doing and just
581
00:47:12,866 --> 00:47:18,123
you know, bring in people to the edge of these kinds of experiences, it seemed
582
00:47:18,243 --> 00:47:22,860
like I ought to. I was a little irresponsible to be
583
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:25,932
sort of pushing people off the cliff like that,
584
00:47:26,052 --> 00:47:32,694
without really knowing exactly where I was and accepting and understanding and feeling comfortable with that model and em,
585
00:47:33,358 --> 00:47:39,375
you know, I think what began downing on me after a while since I stopped the study
586
00:47:39,495 --> 00:47:43,088
was that I was really dealing with a spiritual phenomenon.
587
00:47:44,253 --> 00:47:46,814
What do these experiences say about the nature of reality,
588
00:47:46,934 --> 00:47:48,478
the nature of our minds
589
00:47:48,598 --> 00:47:51,807
or the function of our brain that we can so quickly shift
590
00:47:51,927 --> 00:47:54,752
into these alternate realities?
591
00:47:54,872 --> 00:47:58,720
Let's take a step back and consider how these experiences inform us
592
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,329
about ourselves, our conscience and the symbiosis of the two.
593
00:48:04,610 --> 00:48:07,810
It started seeming to me that what was happening with DMT
594
00:48:07,930 --> 00:48:12,675
particularly with respect to some of these
595
00:48:12,795 --> 00:48:18,308
reports of entering parallel or alternative, free standing parallels
596
00:48:18,428 --> 00:48:24,582
sorts of realms of existances, that indeed was what their consciousness was doing.
597
00:48:26,374 --> 00:48:31,879
The chemistry of their brain, which is the organ of consciousness, was being changed by DMT
598
00:48:31,999 --> 00:48:34,696
in such a way that they could then receive information
599
00:48:34,816 --> 00:48:38,409
that we weren't able to receive normally.
600
00:48:38,529 --> 00:48:44,938
Yes, there's the experiences from DMT and ayahuasca, and they have their, their function
601
00:48:45,058 --> 00:48:49,419
but if we also look at what it enables us to see.
602
00:48:49,539 --> 00:48:54,540
It just reaps that filtering mechanism away for a few minutes
603
00:48:54,660 --> 00:49:01,965
and for a few minutes you're emmersed in sort of this raw data sfere
604
00:49:02,085 --> 00:49:07,599
of input, of sensory input, of memories, of associations, I mean
605
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:12,464
it seems like the brain builds reality out of these things,
606
00:49:12,584 --> 00:49:14,768
what you're experiencing, what you have experienced and
607
00:49:14,888 --> 00:49:22,962
how associate and synthesize these things together to tell youself a story, essentially
608
00:49:23,082 --> 00:49:27,315
about what's going on, where you are in space and time.
609
00:49:32,054 --> 00:49:35,508
It's the brain that helps to process all this information
610
00:49:35,628 --> 00:49:38,197
and to create for us an audition of what our world is all about
611
00:49:38,317 --> 00:49:39,349
but we're trapped within that brain.
612
00:49:39,469 --> 00:49:42,294
However, in spiritual experiences where people feel
613
00:49:42,414 --> 00:49:43,702
that they get beyond theirself.
614
00:49:43,822 --> 00:49:46,135
In certain types of psychedelic experiences,
615
00:49:46,255 --> 00:49:49,463
where you have incredible sensory and other types of phenomena
616
00:49:49,583 --> 00:49:54,072
people really feel like they are able to kind of get outside of their brain.
617
00:49:54,192 --> 00:49:59,193
We have to take a really big look at what is going on within them, when they have the experience
618
00:49:59,313 --> 00:50:02,010
and try to understand how it happens physiologically
619
00:50:02,130 --> 00:50:05,338
and try to make sense of it from the subjective perspective as well as from the objective perspective,
620
00:50:05,458 --> 00:50:10,332
I don't think you can just say, "Let's just explain it away from on the basis of science."
621
00:50:10,452 --> 00:50:13,725
What I was doing early on when I was hearing these reports
622
00:50:13,845 --> 00:50:17,053
were interpreting them kind of psychological
623
00:50:17,173 --> 00:50:20,510
or em brain chemistry aberrations or whatever.
624
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:24,615
There's a part of the brain was being dinged that was responsible for
625
00:50:24,735 --> 00:50:28,448
the alien appearance phenomenon.
626
00:50:29,728 --> 00:50:31,520
This is not a new phenomenon.
627
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,257
Entities in altered states have been recognized for
628
00:50:36,377 --> 00:50:40,994
an extremaly long time in many cultures over the millennia.
629
00:50:41,114 --> 00:50:44,323
Helpers, spirits, assistants, angels,
630
00:50:44,443 --> 00:50:47,652
all of these different entities have been fairly common throughout
631
00:50:47,772 --> 00:50:50,340
man's experiences of altered states
632
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:54,181
and through much of man's mythology.
633
00:50:57,638 --> 00:51:02,616
I don't think it's a possibility that people are, in some way, interacting with some sort
634
00:51:02,736 --> 00:51:06,033
of an intelligence or scenic being or something that exists
635
00:51:06,153 --> 00:51:08,805
at some level that's not in this three-dimensional physical plane.
636
00:51:08,925 --> 00:51:11,792
I'm looking at it from a sense of:
637
00:51:11,912 --> 00:51:14,824
"Okay, is the drug healing you?"
638
00:51:14,944 --> 00:51:16,872
"Is it helping you?"
639
00:51:16,992 --> 00:51:22,198
and, and or, "is it, is it giving you the tools?", "what are bringing back?"
640
00:51:23,919 --> 00:51:27,442
What you bring back, I think, has to be something more than
641
00:51:27,562 --> 00:51:29,327
these entities out there.
642
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:36,455
The best psychedelic explorers,
643
00:51:36,575 --> 00:51:38,094
are people who realize that even
644
00:51:38,214 --> 00:51:41,863
the "truths" they see on a trip
645
00:51:41,983 --> 00:51:47,517
are not "truths", but "new models", new "what-ifs" alternative frames.
646
00:51:47,637 --> 00:51:54,069
Unless their is a map and a clear methodology
647
00:51:54,189 --> 00:51:59,231
then one will just have a variety of different experiences.
648
00:52:00,297 --> 00:52:03,492
All these various experiences that have been reported
649
00:52:03,612 --> 00:52:06,524
from NDEs, near-death experiences,
650
00:52:06,644 --> 00:52:10,703
alien abductions, alien encounters,
651
00:52:10,823 --> 00:52:11,522
sexual ecstasy,
652
00:52:11,642 --> 00:52:18,650
I believe all of these experiences, in fact, are fractals.
653
00:52:20,453 --> 00:52:24,140
If we understand the concept of fractal geometry,
654
00:52:24,260 --> 00:52:27,090
no matter how small it is,
655
00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:32,252
it contains everything that is in the larger picture
656
00:52:32,372 --> 00:52:38,151
and thus that validates, profoundly, all these various experiences.
657
00:52:39,135 --> 00:52:43,689
Discount the phenomenon as hallucinatory or imaginary,
658
00:52:43,809 --> 00:52:47,465
I think it's maybe more useful to look at the mechanism of action, you know,
659
00:52:47,585 --> 00:52:50,506
If it is real than perhaps, how does it work?
660
00:52:50,626 --> 00:52:54,229
Look, there's extraordinary regular phenomena
661
00:52:54,349 --> 00:52:58,058
that come-up with these things, that are clearly linked
662
00:52:58,178 --> 00:53:00,338
in many ways to these larger
663
00:53:00,458 --> 00:53:03,149
human issues around mysticism or religious experiences
664
00:53:03,269 --> 00:53:06,419
or encounters with other entities.
665
00:53:06,539 --> 00:53:07,963
And here we have it.
666
00:53:08,083 --> 00:53:12,668
And if you can't go in there, and really go in there and account for this material
667
00:53:12,788 --> 00:53:15,699
inside your neuro-scientific framework,
668
00:53:15,819 --> 00:53:17,557
you're leaving a huge gap.
669
00:53:17,936 --> 00:53:21,789
You gotta account for this stuff the way you gotta account for dreams, the way you gotta account for
670
00:53:21,909 --> 00:53:25,071
all sorts of psychoactive responses.
671
00:53:26,619 --> 00:53:32,452
Using DMT is an explanatory model, as kind of a mediator between our consciousness and a
672
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:38,287
a consciousness of a non-corporeal sort of reality, you know. It's handy.
673
00:53:38,939 --> 00:53:40,616
With DMT, there are no words
674
00:53:40,736 --> 00:53:46,981
I would try to wrap mathematical vocabulary around the experience afterwards.
675
00:53:47,502 --> 00:53:48,968
I
676
00:53:50,106 --> 00:53:52,729
I specialize in the metaphor of vibration.
677
00:53:52,849 --> 00:53:56,756
And how vibrations influence creative form.
678
00:53:57,180 --> 00:54:02,697
That would be the key to the relationship between the spiritual realm and the ordinary realm.
679
00:54:02,817 --> 00:54:07,230
This was the window that was opened by DMT.
680
00:54:08,873 --> 00:54:12,332
Using psychedelic drugs or other types of pharmacological substances
681
00:54:12,452 --> 00:54:14,024
can help to induce a state
682
00:54:14,144 --> 00:54:15,422
where people feel that they
683
00:54:15,542 --> 00:54:17,777
touch a deeper sensive reality.
684
00:54:17,897 --> 00:54:20,279
Where they understand the reality on a more fundamental level.
685
00:54:20,399 --> 00:54:23,590
And they gain a great deal of inside knowledge into the ways in which the world works
686
00:54:23,710 --> 00:54:26,828
and how they are, as a human being, supposed to relate to that world.
687
00:54:27,711 --> 00:54:32,199
DMT is somehow, seems to me in my experience
688
00:54:32,935 --> 00:54:38,822
more of a break-through than LSD, mushrooms, peyote and so on.
689
00:54:39,558 --> 00:54:45,886
It's instructive, it's more supportive of futury evolution and the creation of future
690
00:54:46,006 --> 00:54:50,301
and it is in itself, more of a mistery.
691
00:54:50,421 --> 00:54:54,274
How could this little stuff produce something that
692
00:54:54,394 --> 00:54:57,806
has intelligence.
693
00:54:57,926 --> 00:55:02,000
It is actually a doorway to another reality.
694
00:55:04,726 --> 00:55:06,783
So, what is the nature of reality?
695
00:55:06,903 --> 00:55:09,432
And what is the nature of how we, as human beings experience it?
696
00:55:09,552 --> 00:55:12,229
Can we understand it better?
697
00:55:12,349 --> 00:55:16,349
Are we capable of understanding reality on some very fundamental levels?
698
00:55:16,469 --> 00:55:19,881
And what we need to do in order to prepare for that?
699
00:55:16,469 --> 00:55:19,881
700
00:55:20,617 --> 00:55:24,664
You know, there are parallel universes, it seems, at least that's the theory in modern physics.
701
00:55:24,784 --> 00:55:27,534
There is dark matter, which is
702
00:55:27,654 --> 00:55:32,222
a huge amount of the matter of the universe, perhaps 95% or more.
703
00:55:32,342 --> 00:55:37,152
It's radical a ideas just a logical extension in some ways of a
704
00:55:37,272 --> 00:55:40,684
instead of using a machine to see more than we normally can see,
705
00:55:40,804 --> 00:55:42,303
we're using the brain.
706
00:55:42,423 --> 00:55:46,467
There are fields which are undiscovered so far
707
00:55:46,929 --> 00:55:52,049
which have nothing to do with anything that is discovered so far.
708
00:55:52,745 --> 00:55:55,010
The gravitational field, you know,
709
00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:57,737
was unknown before the year 1604.
710
00:55:59,872 --> 00:56:01,831
The electromagnetic field
711
00:56:01,951 --> 00:56:04,916
unknown before the year 1830 or something.
712
00:56:05,191 --> 00:56:10,002
All of these, what we call fundamental fields of mathematical physics
713
00:56:10,122 --> 00:56:12,099
are new discoveries.
714
00:56:12,734 --> 00:56:16,619
Dark energy is even newer discovery and beyond that are
715
00:56:16,910 --> 00:56:22,099
maybe more discoveries yet coming beyond our cosmos itself,
716
00:56:23,414 --> 00:56:25,468
and higher dimensions as they say.
717
00:56:25,588 --> 00:56:28,771
I still don't have very much use for the concept of God
718
00:56:28,891 --> 00:56:34,120
but I do believe that there are higher levels, transcendent levels of reality
719
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:38,263
and I'm now actually now starting to really believe that
720
00:56:38,383 --> 00:56:42,353
the brain is not the source of consciousness,
721
00:56:42,473 --> 00:56:43,979
it's not really who we are but
722
00:56:44,099 --> 00:56:49,170
it's more like a radio tuner for something way bigger.
723
00:56:51,070 --> 00:56:53,453
Are these experiences "spiritual experiences" or
724
00:56:53,573 --> 00:56:57,514
otherwise are they created by physiological processes or
725
00:56:57,634 --> 00:57:00,803
is the brain itself responding to something that's going on?
726
00:57:00,923 --> 00:57:04,897
And the fact that somebody may actually find a way of "turning on" their brain
727
00:57:05,017 --> 00:57:06,710
to spiritual experiences.
728
00:57:06,830 --> 00:57:10,210
Again, I'm not sure that this necessarily diminishes the reality
729
00:57:10,330 --> 00:57:12,892
or the realness of what these experiences are about.
730
00:57:14,809 --> 00:57:17,798
If the pharmacology or psychopharmacology of
731
00:57:18,294 --> 00:57:20,738
psychedelic experiences turn up to be
732
00:57:20,858 --> 00:57:23,992
essentially the same as religious or spiritual experiences,
733
00:57:24,112 --> 00:57:29,754
it would help us to understand where these experiences are occuring within the human brain.
734
00:57:30,052 --> 00:57:33,192
I'm actually quite, quite convinced
735
00:57:33,312 --> 00:57:39,080
that we're probing the biological basis of moral and ethical behavior,
736
00:57:39,302 --> 00:57:42,818
I think that these primary religious experiences
737
00:57:43,179 --> 00:57:49,022
really are a bed rock of the world's religions.
738
00:57:49,142 --> 00:57:56,405
The research and knowledge, speculation about the pineal body and DMT
739
00:57:56,525 --> 00:57:59,457
is in fact
740
00:57:59,577 --> 00:58:08,416
the hand of God, that is interacting with our natural evolution
741
00:58:08,536 --> 00:58:13,436
to stimulate and accelerate the process of redemption
742
00:58:13,556 --> 00:58:18,949
of individual and of collective global enlightment.
743
00:58:19,069 --> 00:58:23,970
Because of my ayahuasca experiences I consider myself a
744
00:58:24,090 --> 00:58:30,271
spiritual person, I know things now that I could never have known otherwise.
745
00:58:31,452 --> 00:58:35,981
These experiences, so familiar for a lot of different people
746
00:58:36,101 --> 00:58:39,033
and it's so easily aquired
747
00:58:39,153 --> 00:58:44,939
and so much information come with so little effort, that it is a kind of a miracle,
748
00:58:45,059 --> 00:58:50,157
it's a miraculous way for us to transcend ordinary reality and obtain
749
00:58:50,277 --> 00:58:54,292
maybe an intimation of what's necessary for survival.
750
00:58:54,981 --> 00:58:57,145
Ranging from new forms of medical treatment
751
00:58:57,265 --> 00:58:59,208
to a better understanding of the Universe
752
00:58:59,328 --> 00:59:01,804
to life changing spiritual revelations,
753
00:59:01,924 --> 00:59:05,940
these natural tools offer us the ability to seek greater knowledge.
754
00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:09,257
Tools that can positively effect life on our planet.
755
00:59:09,617 --> 00:59:12,229
Let's answer Dr Strassman's question.
756
00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:14,686
If so ... so what?
757
00:59:15,581 --> 00:59:19,202
Because of the collapse of consciousness
758
00:59:19,322 --> 00:59:24,060
spiritual and scientific knowledge split apart.
759
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:28,464
Both these modes of knowing have to come together in order to science and technology
760
00:59:28,903 --> 00:59:31,539
from a traditional religious perspective is not an extra,
761
00:59:31,659 --> 00:59:41,463
it is part of the process by which humanity is going to evolve into its next stage.
762
00:59:41,583 --> 00:59:46,797
How do we find like the right form for psychedelics in the future?
763
00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:49,063
Asssuming that psychedelics are part of the human future
764
00:59:49,183 --> 00:59:54,349
at the moment they're still, you know, generally repressed and suppressed and illegal.
765
00:59:54,469 --> 00:59:55,991
If that were to change,
766
00:59:56,111 --> 00:59:59,682
how would we begin to construct a kind of a
767
01:00:00,186 --> 01:00:06,311
system that would allow for, for kind of rational and mature exploration of the psychedelics?
768
01:00:06,431 --> 01:00:11,078
I think that the name of the game is to
769
01:00:11,198 --> 01:00:17,633
show science the pertinence of this somewhat outlandish realm.
770
01:00:17,753 --> 01:00:20,622
It's not just crazy stuff.
771
01:00:20,742 --> 01:00:25,746
It shouldn't be considered as, let's say, not even worthy of interest or illegitimate,
772
01:00:25,866 --> 01:00:27,547
I actually think because it's
773
01:00:27,667 --> 01:00:31,323
declared off bounds, it just makes it interesting to with start.
774
01:00:32,036 --> 01:00:34,679
But one doesn't want to throw the baby with the bath water
775
01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:37,238
and I think it's really important to
776
01:00:37,358 --> 01:00:40,427
stay faithful to science.
777
01:00:42,499 --> 01:00:48,565
What does it mean? why is there a part of the brain that seems to be
778
01:00:49,369 --> 01:00:53,900
for lack of a better word "a God-detector"? You know.
779
01:00:54,020 --> 01:00:59,162
What's the evolutionary advantage to having some part of the brain
780
01:00:59,282 --> 01:01:01,835
that seems to, you know,
781
01:01:01,939 --> 01:01:06,543
trigger and mediate experiences of the transcendent?.
782
01:01:06,663 --> 01:01:12,390
The Kabbalah is revealing to us that the pineal body is actually
783
01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:16,390
is the very edge of the higher dimension that is
784
01:01:16,510 --> 01:01:20,652
penetrating into our lower dimension, and it is located
785
01:01:20,772 --> 01:01:23,284
precisely in the middle of the brain
786
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:27,955
I can remember reading about Descartes,
787
01:01:28,075 --> 01:01:32,278
thinking that is was actually the interface between
788
01:01:32,398 --> 01:01:36,493
the spiritual dimension and the dimension of matter.
789
01:01:36,613 --> 01:01:42,051
I remember studying that as a foolish idea from our history
790
01:01:42,481 --> 01:01:46,777
and now it seems actually like a very interesting idea.
791
01:01:46,897 --> 01:01:51,463
What we are looking for out there
792
01:01:51,583 --> 01:01:53,369
is really in here.
793
01:01:53,489 --> 01:01:56,859
It is the doorway, it is the gate.
794
01:01:56,979 --> 01:02:00,591
So we focus on the transformative effect of the psychedelics
795
01:02:00,711 --> 01:02:02,874
but it's also true, the reverse is true that
796
01:02:02,994 --> 01:02:05,666
it requires transformation in order to
797
01:02:05,786 --> 01:02:07,277
embrace psychedelics. You know.
798
01:02:07,397 --> 01:02:10,982
It's one of the tricky paradoxes of postmodernism,
799
01:02:11,102 --> 01:02:15,548
that psychedelics both require and produce a transformative effect.
800
01:02:15,668 --> 01:02:18,984
We have severed our connection to spirit.
801
01:02:19,104 --> 01:02:20,998
That's what our society has done,
802
01:02:21,118 --> 01:02:24,703
it is sort to persuade us that the material realm is the only realm,
803
01:02:25,052 --> 01:02:29,241
and the only way we're going to recover it is to reconnect with spirit.
804
01:02:29,361 --> 01:02:34,181
And I truelly believe we need the help of the plants in order to do that.
805
01:02:37,913 --> 01:02:42,316
Part of our work is to respect these, these medicines and then
806
01:02:43,202 --> 01:02:46,783
to change the culture enough that, that people
807
01:02:46,903 --> 01:02:49,274
doing them can be respected and healed and
808
01:02:49,394 --> 01:02:50,781
not everybody
809
01:02:50,901 --> 01:02:56,222
needs to do them, not everybody should or wants to but
810
01:02:56,342 --> 01:02:58,975
there it isn't pushed to the side and so part of that
811
01:02:59,095 --> 01:03:03,826
does involve then research, because that's how in our
812
01:03:03,946 --> 01:03:06,841
reductionist society we validate things.
813
01:03:06,961 --> 01:03:11,310
With the passing of the years, and the opportunity for sober reflection, I think
814
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:16,739
there's a groving appreciation that there may be something to gain
815
01:03:16,859 --> 01:03:19,165
from studying these compounds,
816
01:03:19,285 --> 01:03:22,245
there's a lot we can learn and there
817
01:03:22,365 --> 01:03:27,752
may very well be treatment models, particularly for patient populations
818
01:03:27,872 --> 01:03:31,881
for whom conventional treatments are ineffective,
819
01:03:32,001 --> 01:03:37,912
for whom the psychedelic model were utilized optimally, may provide great benefit.
820
01:03:38,032 --> 01:03:42,435
I think the most important thing that we could do right now that would be
821
01:03:42,555 --> 01:03:44,663
fairly straightforward to do is to
822
01:03:44,783 --> 01:03:49,121
ask and answer the question of whether Ayahuasca could help
823
01:03:49,241 --> 01:03:51,808
people who have drugs and alcohol abuse.
824
01:03:51,928 --> 01:03:59,852
And given that we know that DMT and similiar alkaloids have a very strong effect
825
01:03:59,972 --> 01:04:03,927
on the same receptors sites that are involved in depression.
826
01:04:04,047 --> 01:04:08,699
And the notion that most people, in my experience,
827
01:04:08,819 --> 01:04:16,093
who use drugs and alcohol are self-medicating a deep depression or an anxiety.
828
01:04:16,113 --> 01:04:20,131
I've had permission now over the last years to utilize psilocybin
829
01:04:20,251 --> 01:04:23,225
which is the active alkaloid in hallucinogenic mushrooms
830
01:04:23,345 --> 01:04:28,312
in the treatment of patients with advanced staged cancer who have anxiety
831
01:04:28,432 --> 01:04:31,353
for treating the anxiety, not the cancer.
832
01:04:31,473 --> 01:04:36,595
Now, the psilocybin is 4-phosphorylixy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine so
833
01:04:36,715 --> 01:04:42,603
obviously from the chemical structure point of view, you know, very similar to DMT.
834
01:04:44,606 --> 01:04:46,563
Ultimately, what I want to do is
835
01:04:46,683 --> 01:04:49,870
see these things used in a way they were used traditionally
836
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:52,339
to heal people, help people
837
01:04:52,459 --> 01:04:53,500
and right now
838
01:04:53,620 --> 01:04:56,717
helping people come to terms with dying.
839
01:04:56,837 --> 01:05:02,807
It changes your whole relationship to your death, you're impending death,
840
01:05:02,927 --> 01:05:06,121
believe it or not, you're gonna die.
841
01:05:06,241 --> 01:05:11,826
And now with this tool with having crossed over already
842
01:05:11,946 --> 01:05:15,518
you will, some of the fear around that will disappear.
843
01:05:19,252 --> 01:05:25,544
Now I am beginning to wonder whether consciousness may actually survive biological death.
844
01:05:25,664 --> 01:05:29,572
That maybe the model that we've been working under
845
01:05:29,692 --> 01:05:33,195
in psychiatry and behavioural pharmacology model,
846
01:05:33,315 --> 01:05:36,216
it's just wrong, it's backwards actually.
847
01:05:36,336 --> 01:05:41,543
The consciousness is primarily in the universe and matter is a result of.
848
01:05:41,663 --> 01:05:45,235
Utilizing substances like DMT or 5-methoxy-DMT
849
01:05:45,355 --> 01:05:48,004
may really help us prepare
850
01:05:48,124 --> 01:05:51,654
by practicing a transcent dying experience.
851
01:05:52,828 --> 01:05:55,094
As far we're observing,
852
01:05:55,214 --> 01:05:57,743
very positive effects in regards to
853
01:05:57,863 --> 01:05:59,415
the nature of the experience during the session,
854
01:05:59,535 --> 01:06:02,477
and then subsequent effects on mood regulation,
855
01:06:02,597 --> 01:06:05,162
and anxiety control, pain perception
856
01:06:05,282 --> 01:06:08,434
and overall quality of life for cancer patients.
857
01:06:08,807 --> 01:06:13,883
By large our subjects do quite well in the time they have remaining.
858
01:06:17,013 --> 01:06:19,228
For those people who do come to terms with it,
859
01:06:19,348 --> 01:06:21,980
part of this is a recognition that psychedelics have opened
860
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:24,027
a space that they weren't aware it existed
861
01:06:24,147 --> 01:06:29,229
and sort of give them a vision of what could be pass death, as well as
862
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:32,619
a better perspective on the accomplishments they've made in life,
863
01:06:32,739 --> 01:06:35,438
a better feeling about what they have done in their own lives.
864
01:06:38,523 --> 01:06:43,293
What I think all people who have had psychedelic trips and meditations and so on are poking
865
01:06:43,541 --> 01:06:46,469
more or less into the same higher realm
866
01:06:46,589 --> 01:06:48,077
and receiving some information.
867
01:06:48,197 --> 01:06:52,338
If we can develop this, into, this could absorbed into
868
01:06:52,458 --> 01:06:56,187
ordinary science that we could approach with the scientific method and so on then
869
01:06:56,307 --> 01:07:00,837
our intelligence, capability of survival on planet Earth,
870
01:07:00,957 --> 01:07:02,459
would be increased.
871
01:07:02,579 --> 01:07:04,081
We were a dying species, we
872
01:07:04,201 --> 01:07:06,432
live on a dying planet, we're killing the planet
873
01:07:06,552 --> 01:07:10,638
so our disease is extremely serious,
874
01:07:10,758 --> 01:07:15,860
and therefore we're desperate to find new information, ideas and so on
875
01:07:15,980 --> 01:07:17,773
that can transcend.
876
01:07:17,893 --> 01:07:22,237
We have to evolve, and I think our intellectual evolution
877
01:07:22,357 --> 01:07:26,734
may be predicated upon the psychedelic pioneers.
878
01:07:26,854 --> 01:07:29,352
It's so easy to change the world, I mean
879
01:07:29,472 --> 01:07:32,205
that's the kind of thing that you can see
880
01:07:33,111 --> 01:07:34,822
on psychedelics.
881
01:07:34,942 --> 01:07:48,247
If you don't get trapped in the beauty of the psychedelic experience itself.
882
01:07:48,367 --> 01:07:51,461
You know, it's like looking through
883
01:07:51,581 --> 01:07:56,673
the chandelier of reality from a different vantage point, you know
884
01:07:56,793 --> 01:08:00,753
You can now project through those crystals in another way
885
01:08:00,873 --> 01:08:02,263
and is beautiful.
886
01:08:02,733 --> 01:08:04,378
But ...
887
01:08:04,781 --> 01:08:08,674
Okay, now come back, you know, now come back.
888
01:08:09,914 --> 01:08:14,502
I think if I ever were to resume giving people psychodelics, particularly DMT,
889
01:08:14,622 --> 01:08:19,910
it wouldn't be just a kind of tinker with brain chemistry and just see what's happening.
890
01:08:21,098 --> 01:08:25,441
I think one of the things I've also learned in the research
891
01:08:25,561 --> 01:08:30,029
is that you just don't wanna give drugs and see what happens, that's a little
892
01:08:30,215 --> 01:08:36,011
I don't know if calais is the right word but that's the first word that comes to mind, I think, if you really gonna
893
01:08:36,131 --> 01:08:39,780
open people up like that, you need to do it for a purpose
894
01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:45,342
not just for scientific curiosity and, you know, like to be helpful
895
01:08:45,462 --> 01:08:49,328
rather that just sort of smart or clever.
896
01:08:49,448 --> 01:08:56,040
To my mind are, is this kind of a two edge sword of simultaneously opening up to the new menious world
897
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,078
to the world of messages, the world of spirits, the world of entities.
898
01:09:00,198 --> 01:09:07,171
And and the same time, rigorously, taking that material into the acid bath of neurology,
899
01:09:07,291 --> 01:09:11,205
into sociology, into the ongoing construction of reality.
900
01:09:11,447 --> 01:09:14,562
And that the wisdom that these things bring, is this kind of
901
01:09:14,682 --> 01:09:19,919
a very tricky mixture of authentic religious experience
902
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:23,956
with gods, and messages and clear signs
903
01:09:24,076 --> 01:09:28,214
and a sort of a remarkable mirror of the mind.
904
01:09:28,662 --> 01:09:34,267
The curiosity, perhaps the uniqueness of the human creature
905
01:09:34,387 --> 01:09:36,952
is that we live in both realms.
906
01:09:37,072 --> 01:09:41,181
We have the ability for spiritual experience and
907
01:09:41,301 --> 01:09:45,074
have the ability for physical experience.
908
01:09:45,194 --> 01:09:50,343
The agenda of the spirit world, if there is an agenda
909
01:09:50,463 --> 01:09:57,405
is to allow us to experience our full potential and to deliver our full potential
910
01:09:57,525 --> 01:10:01,989
and maybe the choices that we are making right now
911
01:10:02,109 --> 01:10:06,083
as a civilization of the society, rebound far beyond ourselves.
912
01:10:07,281 --> 01:10:11,644
I think DMT is a forceable reminder that there's
913
01:10:11,764 --> 01:10:16,376
a lot more about reality, the universe, ourselves,
914
01:10:16,879 --> 01:10:22,182
the biosphere, whatever that we, there's a lot more to it than we imagine.
915
01:10:31,109 --> 01:10:33,224
It seems our reality is not the only reality,
916
01:10:33,344 --> 01:10:35,472
occasionally the cracks reveal themselves
917
01:10:35,592 --> 01:10:37,534
and may even want to be discovered.
918
01:10:37,654 --> 01:10:40,507
As humans, we are creatures that thirsts for knowledge.
919
01:10:40,627 --> 01:10:44,400
We spend time, money and infinite energy searching for it
920
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,729
in schools, in churches, in business and in technology.
921
01:10:48,849 --> 01:10:53,302
Knowledge is power and thus our greatest quest.
922
01:10:53,422 --> 01:10:55,181
Dimethyltryptamine.
923
01:10:55,301 --> 01:10:59,175
A molecule with a complex name and the simplest ability
924
01:10:59,295 --> 01:11:01,356
to unlock the door to another dimension,
925
01:11:01,476 --> 01:11:07,632
and perhaps, just perhaps, our future evolution.
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01:11:11,543 --> 01:11:16,358
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