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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,766 --> 00:00:02,733 Our guest while high on drugs found 2 00:00:02,733 --> 00:00:03,666 himself walking 3 00:00:03,666 --> 00:00:05,566 across steel bars of a 4 00:00:05,566 --> 00:00:08,033 construction zone over a six-lane 5 00:00:08,033 --> 00:00:09,866 freeway. When he 6 00:00:09,866 --> 00:00:11,333 heard a loud voice say, 7 00:00:11,633 --> 00:00:14,366 "You could be doing this for me, what 8 00:00:14,366 --> 00:00:15,366 would you have 9 00:00:15,366 --> 00:00:17,566 done?" I'm excited to have 10 00:00:17,833 --> 00:00:19,733 Chuck Perry here with me who will 11 00:00:19,733 --> 00:00:20,966 share about his search 12 00:00:20,966 --> 00:00:22,833 for God and how you two 13 00:00:22,866 --> 00:00:25,733 can take a leap of faith. Chuck, 14 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,933 welcome to the show. Thank you. 15 00:00:28,433 --> 00:00:31,833 Thanks Barb. So what 16 00:00:31,833 --> 00:00:33,200 happened above that freeway? 17 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:36,700 And what were you thinking to be 18 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:38,233 there high on drugs 19 00:00:38,233 --> 00:00:40,133 crossing that anyways? 20 00:00:41,066 --> 00:00:45,733 No thoughts were in his mind. About 21 00:00:45,733 --> 00:00:48,366 10 of my friends and I had gone to a 22 00:00:48,366 --> 00:00:50,266 rock and roll concert. This was in 23 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:53,166 1972 and we were high on LSD, 24 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:55,899 psychedelic drugs, and we're walking 25 00:00:55,899 --> 00:00:58,066 across the city of Philadelphia and 26 00:00:58,066 --> 00:00:59,333 we came to this 27 00:00:59,333 --> 00:01:03,700 six-lane road and didn't 28 00:01:03,700 --> 00:01:05,766 know how to get across and I spotted 29 00:01:05,766 --> 00:01:07,433 a bridge that was 30 00:01:07,433 --> 00:01:08,500 being built. It was going 31 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:10,299 to be a walking bridge but it was 32 00:01:10,299 --> 00:01:11,866 only steel I-beam 33 00:01:11,866 --> 00:01:13,833 bridge trusses that spanned 34 00:01:13,866 --> 00:01:17,366 this freeway. How wide were they? 35 00:01:17,366 --> 00:01:18,066 About eight inches 36 00:01:18,066 --> 00:01:19,966 wide on the top and 37 00:01:20,266 --> 00:01:25,866 separated by about six feet. So I 38 00:01:25,866 --> 00:01:26,766 said, "Hey, here's the bridge." 39 00:01:26,766 --> 00:01:28,766 And I got up and I walked to the 40 00:01:28,766 --> 00:01:29,633 middle of it and 41 00:01:29,633 --> 00:01:30,666 turned back and told my 42 00:01:30,666 --> 00:01:33,366 friends and they were very hesitant. 43 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:36,066 Oh yeah, was there 44 00:01:36,066 --> 00:01:38,066 traffic? Yeah, it was rush hour. 45 00:01:38,099 --> 00:01:42,666 And so I went back and I started 46 00:01:42,666 --> 00:01:45,066 leading them one by one by the hand 47 00:01:45,066 --> 00:01:47,566 across this bridge and then coming 48 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:48,700 back for the next one 49 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:49,466 and then coming back 50 00:01:49,466 --> 00:01:51,433 for the next one and you know if I 51 00:01:51,433 --> 00:01:53,766 looked down I'd see drivers whizzing 52 00:01:53,766 --> 00:01:57,266 under the bridge going, "Ahh!" So I 53 00:01:57,266 --> 00:02:00,733 got about half of them across and I 54 00:02:00,733 --> 00:02:03,166 came back and as I came back the 55 00:02:03,166 --> 00:02:06,033 sunset it was rush hour and 56 00:02:06,033 --> 00:02:07,766 you know all the noise and 57 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:10,366 bustle of a big city and all of a 58 00:02:10,366 --> 00:02:11,266 sudden the noise all 59 00:02:11,266 --> 00:02:12,533 stopped. It was just 60 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:14,800 completely quiet and I stood there 61 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,900 looking at the sunset and I heard a 62 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:18,866 voice and it said, "You could be 63 00:02:18,866 --> 00:02:21,666 doing this for me." So 64 00:02:21,666 --> 00:02:22,733 you were like in a different 65 00:02:22,733 --> 00:02:25,466 round? Oh yeah, it was like heaven 66 00:02:25,466 --> 00:02:26,400 just opened but I 67 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,566 didn't know what it was. 68 00:02:28,433 --> 00:02:31,266 And when that voice said that I 69 00:02:31,266 --> 00:02:32,666 looked down and I was 70 00:02:32,666 --> 00:02:33,633 on a straight and narrow 71 00:02:33,666 --> 00:02:35,333 bridge over death and destruction 72 00:02:35,333 --> 00:02:37,933 leading people to the other side and 73 00:02:37,933 --> 00:02:39,666 for one split second it all made 74 00:02:39,666 --> 00:02:41,199 sense and then I 75 00:02:41,199 --> 00:02:43,000 went, "What?" and took 76 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,166 everybody across and we went and 77 00:02:44,166 --> 00:02:46,566 partied. Oh no. But the 78 00:02:46,566 --> 00:02:47,866 thing that happened was a 79 00:02:47,866 --> 00:02:50,666 deposit was made inside of me that 80 00:02:50,666 --> 00:02:52,566 there was someone who 81 00:02:52,566 --> 00:02:53,533 had a purpose for my 82 00:02:53,533 --> 00:02:56,666 life. Wow. And I had to find out who 83 00:02:56,666 --> 00:02:59,333 that was. And see I was at 84 00:02:59,333 --> 00:03:01,133 university at the time I was studying 85 00:03:01,133 --> 00:03:03,533 architecture and I studied physics as 86 00:03:03,566 --> 00:03:06,533 well and in physics I saw that there 87 00:03:06,533 --> 00:03:08,099 was design in all of 88 00:03:08,099 --> 00:03:09,500 creation. There was 89 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:11,599 absolute design. So you had never 90 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:13,166 heard about Christ or 91 00:03:13,166 --> 00:03:14,733 God or the Bible or done 92 00:03:14,733 --> 00:03:17,466 nothing with it? I mean kind of but 93 00:03:17,466 --> 00:03:19,266 it never made sense. I never got it. 94 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,166 I didn't grow up in a family that was 95 00:03:22,166 --> 00:03:23,033 reading the Bible 96 00:03:23,033 --> 00:03:24,166 and following Jesus. 97 00:03:25,666 --> 00:03:30,433 I just didn't know. And so you know 98 00:03:30,433 --> 00:03:33,266 what I saw was design and I was 99 00:03:33,333 --> 00:03:34,966 studying architecture I saw design 100 00:03:34,966 --> 00:03:36,066 and I was into design 101 00:03:36,066 --> 00:03:38,433 and everything and you 102 00:03:38,433 --> 00:03:40,533 know so I saw okay with this much 103 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:42,033 design there has to be 104 00:03:42,033 --> 00:03:44,166 a designer. Wow. And you 105 00:03:44,166 --> 00:03:47,699 know I just it was obvious and also 106 00:03:47,699 --> 00:03:48,266 through taking 107 00:03:48,266 --> 00:03:49,733 psychedelic drugs I saw 108 00:03:49,733 --> 00:03:51,633 that there's an invisible realm that 109 00:03:51,633 --> 00:03:52,300 impacts the 110 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:54,300 physical realm. Now nobody 111 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:56,166 had ever told me about the spirit a 112 00:03:56,166 --> 00:03:58,166 spiritual realm any of that. I was 113 00:03:58,233 --> 00:03:59,666 clueless. I grew up in a 114 00:03:59,666 --> 00:04:03,166 materialistic society and so if 115 00:04:03,166 --> 00:04:04,133 there's an invisible 116 00:04:04,266 --> 00:04:06,266 realm that impacts the physical realm 117 00:04:06,266 --> 00:04:08,833 and there's a designer of all of this 118 00:04:08,833 --> 00:04:11,466 and somebody has a plan for my life I 119 00:04:11,466 --> 00:04:12,566 decided I've got to 120 00:04:12,566 --> 00:04:13,566 meet the designer of 121 00:04:13,566 --> 00:04:17,233 the universe. So how did you go about 122 00:04:17,233 --> 00:04:18,466 that? You were not 123 00:04:18,466 --> 00:04:19,266 gonna find that at the 124 00:04:19,266 --> 00:04:21,733 university. No I did graduate from 125 00:04:21,733 --> 00:04:24,666 the university just after that bridge 126 00:04:24,733 --> 00:04:28,266 experience in the spring of 1972 and 127 00:04:28,266 --> 00:04:29,466 I developed this plan 128 00:04:29,466 --> 00:04:30,833 I got a cabin in the 129 00:04:30,833 --> 00:04:33,233 mountains of Colorado and I said I'm 130 00:04:33,233 --> 00:04:34,033 not leaving this 131 00:04:34,033 --> 00:04:35,100 cabin till I meet the 132 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:36,833 designer of the universe. That's a 133 00:04:36,833 --> 00:04:37,966 crazy plan if you 134 00:04:37,966 --> 00:04:39,266 really think about it. 135 00:04:39,533 --> 00:04:41,433 Isn't like you're gonna go in nowhere 136 00:04:41,433 --> 00:04:43,966 basically but God 137 00:04:43,966 --> 00:04:45,033 will meet you there. 138 00:04:45,033 --> 00:04:46,699 Yeah well I had skied in the 139 00:04:46,699 --> 00:04:48,066 mountains and I climbed 140 00:04:48,066 --> 00:04:49,366 peaks in the mountains of 141 00:04:49,366 --> 00:04:51,699 Colorado and there's such clarity in 142 00:04:51,699 --> 00:04:52,600 the high places that 143 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,533 it just seemed like 144 00:04:53,566 --> 00:04:56,366 that's where I would encounter the 145 00:04:56,366 --> 00:04:57,033 designer of the 146 00:04:57,033 --> 00:04:58,933 universe and so in the 147 00:04:58,933 --> 00:05:01,133 autumn I think October something like 148 00:05:01,133 --> 00:05:02,266 that I moved to 149 00:05:02,266 --> 00:05:05,333 Colorado got a cabin and 150 00:05:06,333 --> 00:05:08,666 settled in to meet the designer of 151 00:05:08,666 --> 00:05:10,600 the universe and then 152 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,300 snowstorms came and my 153 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:15,233 car broke down and I ran out of food 154 00:05:15,233 --> 00:05:16,233 and all I had was a 155 00:05:16,233 --> 00:05:18,133 huge bag of oatmeal but 156 00:05:18,133 --> 00:05:19,533 I was stuck in this cabin in the 157 00:05:19,533 --> 00:05:20,133 mountains just 158 00:05:20,133 --> 00:05:21,666 reaching out where is the 159 00:05:21,733 --> 00:05:22,966 designer of the universe. You 160 00:05:22,966 --> 00:05:24,833 wouldn't leave. Well you couldn't 161 00:05:24,833 --> 00:05:25,766 leave at this point. 162 00:05:26,166 --> 00:05:30,166 I was stuck. And so nobody showed up 163 00:05:30,166 --> 00:05:31,733 for really a long time but I just 164 00:05:31,733 --> 00:05:34,100 kept calling out and it was really 165 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:36,233 funny because I only had one 166 00:05:36,233 --> 00:05:38,399 spiritual book and it was 167 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:40,500 the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu 168 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:43,733 it's Confucianism and it's kind of 169 00:05:43,733 --> 00:05:45,666 like Buddhism and it 170 00:05:45,666 --> 00:05:47,466 told you all about the 171 00:05:47,533 --> 00:05:49,766 excellent man and the virtuous man 172 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:50,699 and how he thought and 173 00:05:50,699 --> 00:05:52,399 who he was and I read 174 00:05:52,399 --> 00:05:54,366 that and I thought oh that looks 175 00:05:54,366 --> 00:05:55,800 alluring that looks 176 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,899 powerful but I'm not 177 00:05:57,899 --> 00:05:59,833 the virtuous man or the excellent man 178 00:05:59,833 --> 00:06:01,600 and I don't even know how to be one. 179 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:04,666 And so God even used Lao Tzu to show 180 00:06:04,666 --> 00:06:05,933 me that I needed a 181 00:06:05,933 --> 00:06:08,133 Savior. That's amazing. 182 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:11,133 And so I would like I wanted to give 183 00:06:11,133 --> 00:06:13,033 up but where could I 184 00:06:13,033 --> 00:06:14,066 go and what could I do? 185 00:06:14,533 --> 00:06:16,666 Nobody would show you. So around New 186 00:06:16,666 --> 00:06:21,466 Year's at the end of 1972 this big 187 00:06:21,466 --> 00:06:23,699 blizzard ended and 188 00:06:23,899 --> 00:06:26,266 there were a billion stars out. I 189 00:06:26,266 --> 00:06:27,833 went out at night. I was standing on 190 00:06:27,833 --> 00:06:29,366 the mountain all these 191 00:06:29,433 --> 00:06:33,033 stars and I just said how can I know 192 00:06:33,033 --> 00:06:35,166 the designer of all this? I'm like a 193 00:06:35,166 --> 00:06:36,733 speck in all this creation. 194 00:06:37,166 --> 00:06:38,866 You know is this presumptuous? Can I 195 00:06:38,866 --> 00:06:40,866 even know you? Wow and I 196 00:06:40,866 --> 00:06:42,033 want to take it right there. 197 00:06:42,466 --> 00:06:44,066 So Chuck you're here in the 198 00:06:44,066 --> 00:06:46,366 mountains. You're in this hut. You 199 00:06:46,366 --> 00:06:48,800 snowed in. Your car breaks down. 200 00:06:49,366 --> 00:06:51,433 Then you see a beautiful star sky. 201 00:06:51,966 --> 00:06:53,399 Now what? You're 202 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:54,399 there with the wrong book. 203 00:06:57,333 --> 00:06:59,100 Everything becomes right when he gets 204 00:06:59,100 --> 00:07:01,533 involved. So yeah so that night I 205 00:07:01,533 --> 00:07:02,633 went to bed just thinking 206 00:07:02,866 --> 00:07:05,466 how can God even know me? I'm a speck 207 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:08,433 in the universe. I woke up in the 208 00:07:08,433 --> 00:07:10,266 morning and the sun 209 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:12,233 rose over new fallen snow. It was 210 00:07:12,233 --> 00:07:14,166 brilliant light outside blinding 211 00:07:14,166 --> 00:07:15,933 light and I looked out the window 212 00:07:15,933 --> 00:07:18,633 and I just said how can I know you? 213 00:07:19,433 --> 00:07:21,333 And all of a sudden the cabin filled 214 00:07:21,333 --> 00:07:22,333 with light and it was 215 00:07:22,366 --> 00:07:24,733 brighter than the sun outside and I 216 00:07:24,733 --> 00:07:27,666 knew it was Jesus. How did he know? I 217 00:07:27,666 --> 00:07:29,000 just knew this is Jesus. 218 00:07:29,233 --> 00:07:31,433 I wasn't looking for Jesus. I've been 219 00:07:31,433 --> 00:07:33,666 reading eastern mysticism, looking at 220 00:07:33,666 --> 00:07:35,000 gurus, all kinds of stuff 221 00:07:35,566 --> 00:07:38,466 and but I knew this is Jesus. His 222 00:07:38,466 --> 00:07:40,133 presence I mean he just 223 00:07:40,133 --> 00:07:42,533 radiated. He let me know 224 00:07:43,033 --> 00:07:45,433 he was Jesus and so I knelt down and 225 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:47,566 I surrendered my life to him and I 226 00:07:47,566 --> 00:07:49,766 said the only words that I 227 00:07:49,766 --> 00:07:52,766 knew how to say. I said be my guru 228 00:07:52,766 --> 00:07:57,500 and he wasn't even offended. I think 229 00:07:57,500 --> 00:07:58,366 that's awesome though 230 00:07:58,466 --> 00:08:01,100 because I think Jesus loves the raw 231 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:04,199 and the real. But you invited him in. 232 00:08:04,533 --> 00:08:06,533 Yeah and then I heard him. 233 00:08:06,733 --> 00:08:09,966 This voice resonated inside of me and 234 00:08:09,966 --> 00:08:12,466 it said I'm the way, the truth and 235 00:08:12,466 --> 00:08:14,066 the life. No one comes to 236 00:08:14,066 --> 00:08:16,533 the father except through me. Now I'd 237 00:08:16,533 --> 00:08:18,066 never read the Bible. I didn't know 238 00:08:18,066 --> 00:08:18,966 that was in the Bible. 239 00:08:18,966 --> 00:08:21,199 I just heard the phrase and so I 240 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:23,133 yielded and I said then show me the 241 00:08:23,133 --> 00:08:24,833 father and I started this. 242 00:08:24,866 --> 00:08:26,366 You didn't even know that because 243 00:08:26,366 --> 00:08:27,399 that's part of John 244 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:31,000 14. 6. 2. He said no. 245 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:34,600 I'm the way, the truth and the life. 246 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,533 No one comes to the father except 247 00:08:36,533 --> 00:08:38,033 through me. So I wanted to 248 00:08:38,033 --> 00:08:39,700 go to the father whoever that was. 249 00:08:40,566 --> 00:08:43,666 And so he took me on a journey for 250 00:08:43,666 --> 00:08:45,766 the next five years actually 251 00:08:46,133 --> 00:08:48,133 into the heart of God and miracles 252 00:08:48,133 --> 00:08:49,600 started happening but I 253 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:50,766 didn't meet any Christians 254 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:54,866 for five years. None? Were you 255 00:08:54,866 --> 00:08:56,233 looking for them or not? 256 00:08:56,566 --> 00:08:59,233 I didn't. I'd been to some 257 00:08:59,966 --> 00:09:01,666 sort of Christian churches when I was 258 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:03,666 a kid and nothing happened there. So 259 00:09:03,666 --> 00:09:04,433 it never occurred to 260 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:06,433 me why would I go there. You know 261 00:09:06,433 --> 00:09:08,299 this is dynamic and exciting and 262 00:09:08,299 --> 00:09:10,166 life-giving and so it didn't 263 00:09:10,166 --> 00:09:12,433 occur to me to go to a church but I 264 00:09:12,433 --> 00:09:13,833 was looking for more people who had 265 00:09:13,833 --> 00:09:15,366 encounters and experiences 266 00:09:15,933 --> 00:09:18,566 with the living God. Wow. And as the 267 00:09:18,566 --> 00:09:19,500 years progressed it 268 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:21,399 increased and increased. I met 269 00:09:21,399 --> 00:09:25,000 my wife. We got married and then 270 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,966 finally five years later we met this 271 00:09:27,966 --> 00:09:31,200 group who had a Holy Ghost 272 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,266 prayer meeting in a village of 400 273 00:09:33,266 --> 00:09:35,433 people in the mountains of Colorado 274 00:09:35,433 --> 00:09:38,600 and they were filled with 275 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,966 the Holy Ghost. They prophesied. They 276 00:09:40,966 --> 00:09:43,666 prayed. They saw miracles happen. 277 00:09:43,666 --> 00:09:44,700 They saw healing happen 278 00:09:45,133 --> 00:09:47,366 and they invited us into their little 279 00:09:47,366 --> 00:09:49,966 group like 20 people and we 280 00:09:49,966 --> 00:09:51,733 experienced the presence of God 281 00:09:51,733 --> 00:09:53,833 like we never had before and they 282 00:09:53,833 --> 00:09:55,966 began to disciple us in the Word and 283 00:09:55,966 --> 00:09:57,600 in the Spirit, told us what 284 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,066 salvation was, we were baptized in 285 00:10:00,066 --> 00:10:01,733 the Holy Spirit and they took us on 286 00:10:01,733 --> 00:10:03,233 the journey into the Word of 287 00:10:03,233 --> 00:10:06,166 God. Wow. You must have grabbed it 288 00:10:06,166 --> 00:10:07,766 with everything you could. Yeah. We 289 00:10:07,766 --> 00:10:09,899 were so hungry. Good. So hungry. 290 00:10:10,333 --> 00:10:12,466 Now God is serious. Well, he was 291 00:10:12,466 --> 00:10:15,766 serious all this time. So once you 292 00:10:15,766 --> 00:10:18,333 got to grow and grow and grow 293 00:10:18,333 --> 00:10:19,933 like you invited Jesus to be your 294 00:10:19,933 --> 00:10:22,600 guru, you know, you're growing. What 295 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,633 did you do with that? 296 00:10:26,366 --> 00:10:28,833 Well, when this group introduced us 297 00:10:28,833 --> 00:10:31,966 to the Word we dove into the Word and 298 00:10:31,966 --> 00:10:33,266 see we had started reading 299 00:10:33,266 --> 00:10:34,766 it. You didn't even have the Bible at 300 00:10:34,766 --> 00:10:37,166 that point? Well, we'd started 301 00:10:37,166 --> 00:10:38,666 reading in Genesis. We thought, 302 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:40,100 oh, this is interesting. So we 303 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:42,166 started in Genesis and we were 304 00:10:42,166 --> 00:10:43,366 farmers and we lived 305 00:10:43,366 --> 00:10:45,299 in teepees in nature. 306 00:10:45,299 --> 00:10:49,133 Of course. We were hippies. Of 307 00:10:49,133 --> 00:10:53,366 course. That's how I met my wife. I 308 00:10:53,366 --> 00:10:55,799 had a teepee by a creek and then 309 00:10:55,799 --> 00:10:57,333 she pitched her teepee on the other 310 00:10:57,333 --> 00:10:59,366 side of the creek and that's how we 311 00:10:59,366 --> 00:11:01,799 met and we got married. 312 00:11:01,833 --> 00:11:03,266 This is funny. Been married for 45 313 00:11:03,266 --> 00:11:04,233 years now. Wow. 314 00:11:04,466 --> 00:11:07,033 Beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. And so, 315 00:11:08,299 --> 00:11:11,533 you know, we were just hungry and we 316 00:11:11,533 --> 00:11:14,000 read lots of spiritual literature, 317 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,433 but finally I read something 318 00:11:16,433 --> 00:11:18,666 in the Bible and it just intrigued 319 00:11:18,666 --> 00:11:20,633 me. So we started in Genesis. It's a 320 00:11:20,633 --> 00:11:21,366 book, you know, you 321 00:11:21,733 --> 00:11:24,766 started in the beginning and we're 322 00:11:24,766 --> 00:11:25,899 farmers working in nature 323 00:11:25,899 --> 00:11:27,433 and we saw how God created 324 00:11:27,899 --> 00:11:30,066 the whole world with abundance. I 325 00:11:30,066 --> 00:11:32,033 mean, every tree bearing fruit, whose 326 00:11:32,033 --> 00:11:33,066 seed is in the fruit, 327 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:35,399 everything was created to multiply, 328 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:37,333 to be fruitful. And here we were 329 00:11:37,333 --> 00:11:38,466 farming and we were seeing 330 00:11:38,466 --> 00:11:40,600 fruitfulness and we're praying over 331 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,266 the land. We're seeing, you know, 332 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:43,566 miraculous crops and 333 00:11:43,566 --> 00:11:45,533 all kinds of things happening. Wow. 334 00:11:46,833 --> 00:11:49,066 And so we, you know, we 335 00:11:49,066 --> 00:11:51,133 just turned towards this God 336 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:53,366 and we're reading the Bible and it's 337 00:11:53,366 --> 00:11:54,966 really exciting. But when we met 338 00:11:54,966 --> 00:11:56,833 these spirit filled people, 339 00:11:57,266 --> 00:11:58,766 they said, Hey, why don't you jump 340 00:11:58,766 --> 00:12:01,333 ahead to the gospel of John? You 341 00:12:01,333 --> 00:12:02,366 should be reading John. 342 00:12:03,033 --> 00:12:06,299 I agree. I agree. Yep. I'm glad they 343 00:12:06,299 --> 00:12:07,100 caught us before we got 344 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:08,733 to Leviticus. But anyway, 345 00:12:09,733 --> 00:12:12,166 oh yes. So we got into John and 346 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:14,366 suddenly this living word 347 00:12:14,366 --> 00:12:16,500 came alive in us and we, 348 00:12:16,933 --> 00:12:18,866 we studied the Bible. We were in the 349 00:12:18,866 --> 00:12:19,966 Bible all the time, 350 00:12:19,966 --> 00:12:21,066 reading it all the time, 351 00:12:21,066 --> 00:12:23,333 farming and reading the Bible and in 352 00:12:23,333 --> 00:12:24,366 nature, seeing his 353 00:12:24,366 --> 00:12:25,933 creation, encountering God, 354 00:12:26,533 --> 00:12:28,966 and just saw miracles happening even 355 00:12:28,966 --> 00:12:32,000 on the farm. There was a whole hoard 356 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,266 of locusts came through 357 00:12:33,266 --> 00:12:35,466 eating everything on the top of the 358 00:12:35,466 --> 00:12:37,700 mesa coming right across our farm. 359 00:12:38,233 --> 00:12:39,633 And we had a huge vegetable 360 00:12:39,666 --> 00:12:43,733 garden. And, and so I read Malachi, 361 00:12:43,966 --> 00:12:45,433 read in Malachi where it says he'll 362 00:12:45,433 --> 00:12:46,633 rebuke the devourer. 363 00:12:47,133 --> 00:12:48,433 And you believed it. And so I went 364 00:12:48,433 --> 00:12:49,299 out and I read it to 365 00:12:49,299 --> 00:12:50,266 the locusts. I said, Hey, 366 00:12:51,033 --> 00:12:52,833 this is what God says. I just want 367 00:12:52,833 --> 00:12:56,733 you guys to know we tied, he's going 368 00:12:56,733 --> 00:12:58,100 to rebuke you. You're 369 00:12:58,100 --> 00:12:59,666 not going to devour our crops. So I 370 00:12:59,666 --> 00:13:00,899 went to bed and I thought they'd all 371 00:13:00,899 --> 00:13:02,566 be gone. I went out in 372 00:13:02,566 --> 00:13:03,766 the garden and they weren't, they 373 00:13:03,766 --> 00:13:06,200 covered our entire garden. But when I 374 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,433 inspected, they didn't 375 00:13:07,433 --> 00:13:09,733 take one bite. They moved across the 376 00:13:09,733 --> 00:13:11,666 fields. They didn't take one bite. 377 00:13:11,933 --> 00:13:13,066 You know, the corn was ripe 378 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:16,466 and you know, the, it was silking. So 379 00:13:16,466 --> 00:13:17,866 if they ate that, they would never 380 00:13:17,866 --> 00:13:20,566 mature. Tomatoes were 381 00:13:20,566 --> 00:13:22,466 ripe on the vine. Not one bite from 382 00:13:22,466 --> 00:13:25,000 our entire crop. That is incredible. 383 00:13:25,700 --> 00:13:27,133 So check it out. I read 384 00:13:27,133 --> 00:13:30,366 this in a day and I tell you it is 385 00:13:30,366 --> 00:13:33,566 well wordy. It was amazing to me 386 00:13:33,566 --> 00:13:35,033 because my night terrors left. 387 00:13:35,666 --> 00:13:37,233 They haven't been there. And now I 388 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:40,200 sleep every night and it's something 389 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,066 I have not been accustomed 390 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,633 to for many years. So I tell you 391 00:13:43,633 --> 00:13:44,933 there's transformation 392 00:13:44,933 --> 00:13:46,666 and there's healing in these 393 00:13:46,666 --> 00:13:49,133 books and that is all about God. So 394 00:13:49,133 --> 00:13:51,833 you were amazed. You were changed. 395 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:52,933 You were transformed. 396 00:13:53,166 --> 00:13:55,966 God got ahold of you. You thought you 397 00:13:55,966 --> 00:13:56,966 had it all right. It 398 00:13:56,966 --> 00:13:58,200 was completely different, 399 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,933 but God worked with you. But then 400 00:13:59,933 --> 00:14:02,233 your daughter was born and she had an 401 00:14:02,233 --> 00:14:03,166 issue with her eyes. 402 00:14:03,166 --> 00:14:08,833 What actually happened? So do you 403 00:14:08,833 --> 00:14:09,366 want to know about her 404 00:14:09,366 --> 00:14:10,533 birth or after her birth? 405 00:14:10,566 --> 00:14:12,799 When did we get both? Okay. Because 406 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:14,933 her birth was supernatural as well. 407 00:14:15,233 --> 00:14:16,566 Wow. So I remember 408 00:14:16,566 --> 00:14:18,366 we were hippies living in T.V. Yeah. 409 00:14:18,633 --> 00:14:20,766 Yeah. You were only there and not in 410 00:14:20,766 --> 00:14:21,633 the hospital, right? 411 00:14:22,033 --> 00:14:24,433 Right. And so we, you know, we just 412 00:14:24,433 --> 00:14:26,133 didn't go to doctors. We just lived 413 00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:28,000 off the land. So when 414 00:14:28,066 --> 00:14:30,266 Linda became pregnant, we believe 415 00:14:30,266 --> 00:14:32,200 that birth is just a natural thing. 416 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,966 God created it. And so we 417 00:14:33,966 --> 00:14:35,766 were planning to just have our baby 418 00:14:35,766 --> 00:14:41,066 at home and which we did. And we 419 00:14:41,066 --> 00:14:42,033 hadn't gone to a doctor. 420 00:14:42,233 --> 00:14:44,366 We were healthy. We were vibrant. But 421 00:14:44,366 --> 00:14:46,133 Linda began to spot a little bit of 422 00:14:46,133 --> 00:14:47,733 blood at one point during 423 00:14:47,733 --> 00:14:49,500 the pregnancy. And a friend of hers 424 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:51,766 was going to town and going to a 425 00:14:51,766 --> 00:14:52,866 doctor because her friend was 426 00:14:52,866 --> 00:14:55,266 pregnant. And she went along with her 427 00:14:55,266 --> 00:14:58,366 not for herself, but to support her 428 00:14:58,366 --> 00:14:59,000 friend. And then the 429 00:14:59,033 --> 00:15:00,433 doctor said, well, you're pregnant. 430 00:15:00,766 --> 00:15:02,733 Do you want me to check you? And she 431 00:15:02,733 --> 00:15:03,899 said, well, yeah, I'm 432 00:15:04,133 --> 00:15:06,166 spotting a little bit of blood. Maybe 433 00:15:06,166 --> 00:15:07,766 you could tell me what's happening. 434 00:15:08,133 --> 00:15:09,633 And he, he checked her 435 00:15:09,633 --> 00:15:12,133 all out and he freaked out. He said, 436 00:15:12,133 --> 00:15:14,633 you've got placenta previa. You know, 437 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,233 the placenta is going 438 00:15:16,233 --> 00:15:18,666 to come out first. You're going to 439 00:15:18,666 --> 00:15:20,000 bleed to death. The baby's going to 440 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,433 die. You could die. He just 441 00:15:21,433 --> 00:15:22,933 told her horrible things. And she 442 00:15:22,933 --> 00:15:27,233 came home just shook it up. And so we 443 00:15:27,233 --> 00:15:28,366 hugged each other and we 444 00:15:28,366 --> 00:15:31,766 prayed and the peace of God came just 445 00:15:31,766 --> 00:15:34,066 fell upon us. And we were just 446 00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:37,233 saturated. And we were just 447 00:15:37,233 --> 00:15:38,866 immersed in his peace. Linda laid 448 00:15:38,866 --> 00:15:41,533 down and she just laid in the peace 449 00:15:41,533 --> 00:15:43,200 of God and felt everything's 450 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,266 going to be okay. So now I'm not 451 00:15:45,266 --> 00:15:46,866 saying this is the thing to do, but 452 00:15:46,866 --> 00:15:48,733 we just didn't go back to a 453 00:15:48,733 --> 00:15:50,433 doctor ever again. But you had the 454 00:15:50,433 --> 00:15:52,233 peace of the Lord. We had the peace. 455 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:53,799 And so when it was time 456 00:15:53,833 --> 00:15:56,366 to have the baby, Linda was just 457 00:15:56,366 --> 00:15:58,100 vibrant that morning. She said, it's 458 00:15:58,100 --> 00:15:59,399 going, going to be today. 459 00:15:59,633 --> 00:16:01,233 And I was a farmer, so I was out 460 00:16:01,233 --> 00:16:02,666 doing the crops and rushing back 461 00:16:02,666 --> 00:16:04,533 home. What's happening? She didn't 462 00:16:04,533 --> 00:16:06,366 have any pain, no labor pain, but she 463 00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:08,433 just knew she was glowing. She knew 464 00:16:08,433 --> 00:16:10,133 this is the day. So I 465 00:16:10,133 --> 00:16:12,833 came back just before sunset and she 466 00:16:12,833 --> 00:16:15,566 said, you know, I, I just feel a 467 00:16:15,566 --> 00:16:16,533 little bit like I have to go to 468 00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:19,333 the bathroom. She was in no pain. And 469 00:16:19,333 --> 00:16:21,066 suddenly I knew I said, sit down 470 00:16:21,066 --> 00:16:22,966 quickly. And she sat down 471 00:16:23,166 --> 00:16:25,433 and all of a sudden the baby began to 472 00:16:25,433 --> 00:16:29,766 push its way out and boom in, in less 473 00:16:29,766 --> 00:16:30,700 than a half an hour 474 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:32,533 with no pain, the baby was born. 475 00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:35,933 That's a great birth. That's a good 476 00:16:35,933 --> 00:16:38,666 birth. Wow. And so the two 477 00:16:38,666 --> 00:16:40,833 of us in a, you know, a little place 478 00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:42,899 that I'd made with, you know, a dirt 479 00:16:42,899 --> 00:16:44,200 floor, no running water, 480 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,233 no electricity. We delivered our 481 00:16:46,233 --> 00:16:49,700 first baby as the sun set and the 482 00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:52,566 moon rose. And there our baby was. 483 00:16:53,166 --> 00:16:55,133 And so the whole thing was a miracle. 484 00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:57,266 There was no placenta previa, no 485 00:16:57,266 --> 00:16:58,833 bleeding, no complications. 486 00:16:59,333 --> 00:17:02,600 Praise God. But the only thing is we, 487 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,566 we found day after day that we named 488 00:17:06,566 --> 00:17:07,700 her Faith actually, 489 00:17:08,366 --> 00:17:11,266 because, you know, we'd had the 490 00:17:11,266 --> 00:17:13,533 promise of God by faith that 491 00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:14,033 everything was 492 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:15,066 going to be okay. We had 493 00:17:15,066 --> 00:17:17,333 his peace. We knew everything would 494 00:17:17,333 --> 00:17:18,866 be okay. So as we lay in bed that 495 00:17:18,866 --> 00:17:19,866 night, my wife said, 496 00:17:20,066 --> 00:17:22,366 I think her name is Faith. I went, 497 00:17:22,633 --> 00:17:23,666 yes, that's right. It's 498 00:17:23,666 --> 00:17:25,066 the promise of God by faith. 499 00:17:25,266 --> 00:17:27,233 Because we'd been reading Abraham and 500 00:17:27,233 --> 00:17:29,933 the child of promise by faith. Yes. 501 00:17:30,366 --> 00:17:32,033 Yes. And so we named 502 00:17:32,033 --> 00:17:33,466 her Faith, but we found that she 503 00:17:33,466 --> 00:17:35,933 couldn't, couldn't track with her 504 00:17:35,933 --> 00:17:37,166 eyes. There was something wrong. 505 00:17:38,299 --> 00:17:41,200 And so eventually we took her to a 506 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,833 doctor and found that she had 507 00:17:42,833 --> 00:17:44,599 congenital cataracts. She 508 00:17:44,633 --> 00:17:46,433 had full cataracts over each of her 509 00:17:46,433 --> 00:17:50,333 eyes. Oh, wow. And so this is 510 00:17:50,333 --> 00:17:52,333 actually what led us to 511 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:56,033 go to that prayer meeting was we were 512 00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:59,433 looking for healing. And we asked the 513 00:17:59,433 --> 00:18:01,000 only person Linda knew 514 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,733 who knew about God was a woman she 515 00:18:03,733 --> 00:18:05,633 worked for in her orchard. And the 516 00:18:05,633 --> 00:18:06,966 woman prayed with all her 517 00:18:07,166 --> 00:18:09,266 workers before they went to work. And 518 00:18:09,266 --> 00:18:11,433 so she said, is there a group of 519 00:18:11,433 --> 00:18:12,466 people who believe 520 00:18:12,633 --> 00:18:15,400 God see miracles, you know, do that. 521 00:18:15,633 --> 00:18:17,966 And she said, yes, there's a group of 522 00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:19,733 charismatic people in 523 00:18:19,733 --> 00:18:21,366 this village. They meet every 524 00:18:21,366 --> 00:18:23,633 Wednesday night. And so we went down 525 00:18:23,633 --> 00:18:25,166 and that's how we met these, 526 00:18:25,833 --> 00:18:27,700 these people at this prayer meeting. 527 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:30,166 They invited us in. Did they pray for 528 00:18:30,166 --> 00:18:32,000 her? Oh yeah. Tons. We, 529 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,633 you know, they prayed, we pray, they 530 00:18:33,633 --> 00:18:34,466 took us to healing 531 00:18:34,466 --> 00:18:36,433 seminars and all kinds of things. 532 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:41,666 And the amazing thing is that she 533 00:18:41,666 --> 00:18:43,566 could always do things that she 534 00:18:43,566 --> 00:18:45,466 wasn't supposed to be able to do. 535 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:48,133 Such as? The doctor said she would 536 00:18:48,133 --> 00:18:49,900 never see color because 537 00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:51,266 her retina wasn't developed, 538 00:18:51,733 --> 00:18:54,933 but she called everybody. This was by 539 00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:55,799 the time she was two, 540 00:18:56,299 --> 00:18:57,266 she would say, you know, 541 00:18:57,266 --> 00:18:58,733 that lady with the black shirt, you 542 00:18:58,733 --> 00:19:00,633 know, that lady with the red, she 543 00:19:00,633 --> 00:19:01,766 could always see color. 544 00:19:02,233 --> 00:19:03,766 They said that would, is impossible 545 00:19:03,766 --> 00:19:06,066 to have it developed. Wow. We did 546 00:19:06,066 --> 00:19:07,133 have the cataracts 547 00:19:07,166 --> 00:19:09,666 removed in a surgery, but the doctor 548 00:19:09,666 --> 00:19:12,033 said, you know, it's not really going 549 00:19:12,033 --> 00:19:12,966 to help. She's not 550 00:19:12,966 --> 00:19:14,533 going to be able to have good vision. 551 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,366 She won't be able to see things. So 552 00:19:16,366 --> 00:19:17,533 we took her in for 553 00:19:17,966 --> 00:19:20,000 an examination and she had a little 554 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,833 bag of almonds and she 555 00:19:21,833 --> 00:19:23,533 dropped it on his floor and 556 00:19:23,533 --> 00:19:25,633 they spread out everywhere. His floor 557 00:19:25,633 --> 00:19:27,766 was linoleum and had little oval 558 00:19:27,766 --> 00:19:29,566 brown spots on it. Oh, 559 00:19:29,566 --> 00:19:31,433 that's impossible. She went to every 560 00:19:31,433 --> 00:19:32,466 almond and picked it up 561 00:19:32,466 --> 00:19:33,766 and never went to a spot. 562 00:19:34,166 --> 00:19:35,099 And the doctor said, that's 563 00:19:35,099 --> 00:19:37,633 impossible. She can't do that. She 564 00:19:37,633 --> 00:19:38,833 did. Yep. She was 565 00:19:38,833 --> 00:19:39,766 sitting in the chair 566 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:42,633 and she pointed to the wall and she 567 00:19:42,633 --> 00:19:44,166 said, dad, that's the same calendar 568 00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:45,099 that you have on your 569 00:19:45,099 --> 00:19:47,433 wall. And he said, she can't see 570 00:19:47,433 --> 00:19:50,400 that. And so the doctors have always 571 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,900 tested her and she's not 572 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:53,933 supposed to be able to see, but she's 573 00:19:53,933 --> 00:19:55,833 always been able to see not 574 00:19:55,833 --> 00:19:57,866 perfectly. She's needed glasses. 575 00:19:58,066 --> 00:20:02,633 And still, that's huge. They said 576 00:20:02,633 --> 00:20:05,133 she's legally blind, but she went to 577 00:20:05,133 --> 00:20:06,733 university. She studied 578 00:20:06,766 --> 00:20:09,433 music. She, you know, she can read 579 00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:15,166 music. She's traveled the world. She 580 00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:16,500 actually got her driver's 581 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:19,366 license. She drives. Yeah. I mean, 582 00:20:19,366 --> 00:20:21,266 just all of these things have 583 00:20:21,266 --> 00:20:24,133 happened, but the doctor say 584 00:20:24,166 --> 00:20:26,366 it's impossible that she can't do 585 00:20:26,366 --> 00:20:28,333 those things. So the healing is this 586 00:20:28,333 --> 00:20:30,433 weird thing. One of the 587 00:20:30,433 --> 00:20:32,599 ladies in that prayer meeting, when 588 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:34,366 we were praying for her site back 589 00:20:34,366 --> 00:20:35,733 when she was two years old, 590 00:20:36,033 --> 00:20:38,566 said, I see a vision and I see faith 591 00:20:38,566 --> 00:20:40,299 standing. That's her name. Faith is 592 00:20:40,299 --> 00:20:41,299 standing in this pool 593 00:20:41,299 --> 00:20:44,066 of water and there's a tree over her. 594 00:20:44,066 --> 00:20:46,333 And when she looks up, the 595 00:20:46,333 --> 00:20:48,933 tree is full of blossoms, 596 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:52,166 but the pool is muddy and disgusting 597 00:20:52,166 --> 00:20:55,233 and murky. Wow. When she looks down, 598 00:20:55,433 --> 00:20:56,433 the pool is crystal 599 00:20:56,466 --> 00:20:58,599 clear, but the tree is bare branches. 600 00:20:59,733 --> 00:21:02,466 And so there's something about her 601 00:21:02,466 --> 00:21:03,166 that she's going to 602 00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:05,966 see things that other people can't 603 00:21:05,966 --> 00:21:10,166 see. And so she's able to apparently 604 00:21:10,166 --> 00:21:12,066 see stuff. She does. And 605 00:21:12,233 --> 00:21:15,433 she still would like to have 100% 606 00:21:15,866 --> 00:21:18,299 perfect vision, but she 607 00:21:18,299 --> 00:21:20,500 does amazing things. So Chuck, 608 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,433 we're almost out of time, but would 609 00:21:22,433 --> 00:21:23,833 you be willing to pray for people 610 00:21:23,833 --> 00:21:25,133 with eye issues right now? 611 00:21:25,466 --> 00:21:27,666 Yes. Shall we do that right now? Yes. 612 00:21:27,666 --> 00:21:28,566 We've seen blind eyes 613 00:21:28,566 --> 00:21:29,933 open. And so right now, 614 00:21:30,133 --> 00:21:32,599 if you have any issue with your eyes, 615 00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:34,466 just put your hands over your eyes. 616 00:21:35,533 --> 00:21:36,466 And right now I declare 617 00:21:36,633 --> 00:21:38,900 vision. I declare sight to the blind. 618 00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:41,633 He opens blind eyes. I declare light 619 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:43,166 coming in and clarity 620 00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:46,333 coming in, focus coming in, cataracts 621 00:21:46,333 --> 00:21:49,033 dissolving, glaucoma disappearing, 622 00:21:49,666 --> 00:21:52,466 100% clear vision in the 623 00:21:52,466 --> 00:21:55,766 mighty name of Jesus. Wow. Wow. And I 624 00:21:55,766 --> 00:21:59,466 know God's doing that right now. Yes. 625 00:21:59,633 --> 00:22:00,333 He paid that price. 626 00:22:00,833 --> 00:22:02,366 Chuck, one more time, if people want 627 00:22:02,366 --> 00:22:03,833 to get ahold of you, 628 00:22:04,233 --> 00:22:04,933 what's your website? 629 00:22:05,633 --> 00:22:10,033 Okay. Chuck Perry.com. And go there 630 00:22:10,033 --> 00:22:11,633 and it has my bio. It has some 631 00:22:11,633 --> 00:22:13,333 photographs, my itinerary, 632 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,166 some stories, some miracles, 633 00:22:16,466 --> 00:22:17,799 different things. And some great 634 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:19,966 books. Great books. So I just 635 00:22:19,966 --> 00:22:21,766 want you to know right now, if you 636 00:22:21,766 --> 00:22:23,633 want to get to know that Jesus, that 637 00:22:23,633 --> 00:22:25,466 guru Jesus that Chuck was 638 00:22:25,466 --> 00:22:27,933 talking about, the real Jesus, all 639 00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:29,333 you have to do is ask him to come 640 00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:30,366 into your heart to say, 641 00:22:30,366 --> 00:22:32,733 dear Jesus, I ask you, will you do 642 00:22:32,733 --> 00:22:34,766 for me what you did for Chuck? You 643 00:22:34,766 --> 00:22:36,566 can also say, I accept you. 644 00:22:36,566 --> 00:22:38,866 I believe that you chose me and died 645 00:22:38,866 --> 00:22:41,066 for me on that cross and rose from 646 00:22:41,066 --> 00:22:43,166 the dead. And I admit, 647 00:22:43,166 --> 00:22:44,900 I have blown it. I have made 648 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:48,166 mistakes. I tell you, God wants to be 649 00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:48,933 there for you too. 650 00:22:49,733 --> 00:22:51,566 Contact us, barptv.org, 651 00:22:51,566 --> 00:22:54,666 or go to 855-515-5550. 49610

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