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Previously, on the disappearance of Maura Murray, I've explored the theory
she may have intentionally run away to start a new life.
If she was going to get to Canada that night, how would she do it?
Searching for a motive, I spoke with her friends and family.
Did you sexually assault Maura?
No, of course not.
How insidious can anything be?
And we followed up with a sighting in Canada.
The eyes, the skin tone, everything on the face doesn't correspond.
Now I don't believe Maura escaped to a new life.
It seems the only way to find out what happened to her after her crash is to
the people who were there that night.
Was anything about the scene unusual to you?
Yes.
We were dispatched to that call. We drove out. There was nobody at the site
the accident.
EMT Dick Guy was one of the first responders to Maura Murray's crash site
February 9, 2004.
Was anything about the scene unusual to you?
The part that was inexplicable to me was, why would anybody shave off?
The inside of a corner, if you lose control of a car, you generally would
proceed in the direction that inertia would take you, as opposed to a tight
maneuver like that. If it were slippery, you generally go off the outside of a
curve. You don't go through the inside of it.
Didn't make sense.
And then we proceeded to look around the car, and my partner says, what's with
the rag in the exhaust pipe?
I'm like...
Wow, what is that?
I wondered if she might have stopped at the store maybe half a mile before and
somebody had sabotaged her car trying to make it stop.
Do you ever hear things around town like rumors or people talking about it?
Absolutely. There's lots of theories. There was the story about some young men
who worked at the ski area over in Loon that lived.
and would have driven by that site on the way to work that didn't show up for
work that night.
That's the one that sticks in my mind as being the worst possible scenario to
me, is that somebody would have abducted her, taken advantage of her, done
something bad.
Dick Guy isn't the only person who has speculated about the significance of the
rag. For years... Web sleuths have used the rag as a basis for all kinds of
theories.
Once the rag was noticed at the scene, it's obvious that there's something not
quite right.
So it should have been treated as evidence.
You know, maybe she stopped somewhere, which we think might fit into the
timeline, and then somebody put the rag in the cell pipe to have the car stall
out and then kidnap her or something. Follow her, right. Follow her, right.
If someone with bad intentions met Maura on her drive, accounting for the
missing hour, and then shoved a cloth in her car's exhaust, would that have even
worked? Could it have caused her to stall out and lose control of her car?
To find out, we're meeting with a local mechanic.
Hi Maggie, I'm Scott Fitzgerald. Nice to meet you. Art. Art, nice to meet you.
Scott Fitzgerald has expert knowledge of early model Saturns, just like Mora's.
And he's going to get this Saturn to run just as poorly as Mora's ran in 2004.
The car she had, it ceased to be drivable. It would smoke something
fierce. A cylinder was blown.
This should drop the cylinder down.
So if one was down, how would the engine be running?
The engine would be running roughly.
They call it a skip.
It would be skipping. It would be chugging.
Now that we've got it running like Morris car, misfiring, running rough,
we'll put it up in the air and we'll try that rag theory. That's what we're
talking about. Okay.
We're running the test at cruising speed because we know the Saturn's airbag
deployed upon impact.
meaning the vehicle must have been going at least 25 miles per hour.
You can see how badly it's shaking. You can hear the skip coming out of the
exhaust system. So I will go ahead and try to put this in.
So I've got somebody in the car, and they can rev the engine up to a couple
thousand RPMs. It'll be about cruising speed, say. Let's see what happens. Can
you bring the RPMs up to about 2 ,000, please?
Wasn't long at all. Kill it.
So this would not make a car stall? I don't care if you put that whole thing
there. It's still not going to stall.
The mechanics test clearly proved that Morris' crash wasn't the result of
sabotage by a rag.
What do you think?
I'm thinking somebody put the rag in the tailpipe after the accident.
Yeah.
Because we have the witness statement that there's a flurry of... Activity
behind the car, was there somebody putting it in the tailpipe?
Art's right.
Whoever put that rag in Maura's tailpipe did it after she crashed.
But who would do that, and why?
Maura's dad, Fred, has thought about these questions endlessly for the last
years.
Fred,
what do you think happened to Maura?
Somebody grabbed her. It was a bad guy.
Once you go around that corner, it's a forest. There's no streetlights. Big
banks. You can't get away.
Obviously, the key part we want to do here is find out what happened to Maura.
But the second thing, too, Fred, is there's a lot of theories out there,
especially as it relates to the rag in the tailpipe of Maura's vehicle. Do you
know why it was there?
Because that means tons of controversy.
Me, me, 100 % me.
Okay, explain that.
Here's exactly what I told him. I said, if you had to drive, do not drive this
car. Do not drive it. You will get pulled over.
You know, her car had lost a cylinder. It was oil, smoke blowing out the back.
But if you see the police, you have to get by them. This probably won't work.
But you could try this.
You could put a rag in your tailpipe, might get you past the police parking
side of the road, looking at you going by, you know. You might make it, you
might not, probably not.
Although it's some pretty unusual advice, there's also a part of me that
understands why Fred would tell his daughter this.
He simply wanted Maura to avoid being pulled over.
Fred, what is one of the most frustrating things about this for you?
You can't find out what went on without constantly trying.
You know, you think you're on a hot trail, but pretty soon you're looking at
kinds of dead ends.
In his pursuit of leads, Fred has bumped up against New Hampshire law
enforcement. Whenever I suggest something, you know, that may have
we'll look at that, we'll look at that. But what does that mean? How do I know
they ever looked at it?
Fred felt like the police were not pursuing Maura's case properly or
enough information with him. So he sued the state of New Hampshire in 2006.
State investigators have amassed 2 ,500 documents in connection with Maura
Murray's case.
Fred Murray's attorney says keeping the file secret is against the law.
His lawsuit went all the way to New Hampshire's Supreme Court.
The state won.
It's incredibly hard and it's terribly frustrating.
Fred believes he knows why law enforcement has been so reluctant to
records.
Right down the street is the breadbasket of northern New Hampshire, which is the
skiing industry and the camping in the summer and the tourist industry. It's
lifeblood of the state's economy.
So nothing can go wrong with that. And the surest way to mess that up would be
major crime.
The police have squashed it for years, except they didn't gauge this one right.
This time the plan didn't work.
I haven't given up and gone away.
I've tried to take the lack of cooperation and hold it up for everybody
This is your state police.
God helps if your daughter ever gets lost up here, this is what you're going
get. See this big piece of nothing?
They got a hunk of that for you too.
Fred, why are you upset with the police?
General intransigence.
Lack of communication.
I think they're hiding something.
Fred Murray has been intensely critical of New Hampshire law enforcement since
the day his daughter disappeared.
If they're not going to be part of the solution, I don't want them to be part
the problem.
When I began looking into Maura's case a few months ago, One of the first things
Art and I did was submit an official interview request.
We asked to speak with the police officers who first responded to Maura's
and others involved in her case.
The New Hampshire Attorney General's office told us they would consider it.
But I'm not hopeful.
Nearly everyone I've spoken to, from podcasters Tim and Lance to Maura's
has told me about the police stonewalling them.
Who in law enforcement would you like to speak with that you haven't been able
to or haven't gotten a response from?
Cecil Smith.
Cecil Smith, who was the first responder, would be very interesting to
I think. Have you reached out?
We've reached out to all these people and have not heard back.
Many people have said it feels as if New Hampshire law enforcement has spent
over a decade concealing the findings of their investigation.
Fred thinks the deafening silence is covering up something sinister.
Everybody has kind of a basic innate fear of the police.
And they don't question the police much.
But the police are like any other group.
Every group's got some good guys, some bad guys.
Well, the police do too.
So there's nothing sacrosanct about the police. They don't sit at the right hand
of God.
Some think.
the police may just be incompetent. What we're saying isn't necessarily, oh,
well, the cops killed Maura and they're covering up after one another.
I suppose it could be that, but I don't believe so.
What I think is more likely is they're covering up a botched investigation.
But I'm not so sure.
Could the police really have botched the investigation and are engaging in a
cover -up?
If so, could their attempts to cover it up have jeopardized their ability to
actually find Maura.
The police never contacted you? No.
No law enforcement person's ever talked to you? No.
The cops didn't interview her?
I know. That is kind of shocking to me. From a law enforcement perspective,
like, how much of a mess -up is that?
It's a mess -up. Even when I have to testify, I always refer back to my notes
the report that I did at that particular time because you're going to forget
those types of details.
Some of the police theories you read about online feel plausible.
Was the search for Maura in the days after her disappearance exhaustive?
Did police do all they could to find her?
Or did they have enough resources?
Small towns usually don't.
Why won't law enforcement release the case files, or at least share them with
Fred and ease his pain?
And some theories are pretty dark.
Could the cops have had a hand in Maura's disappearance?
Did one of their own play a role in her possible death?
I need to explore all of this for myself in order to make my own decision.
Hi Maggie, how you doing?
Hey, Art. I'm good. How are you? Got an interesting call back from the New
Hampshire Attorney General's office, and it looks like Assistant Attorney
General Strelzin is going to go ahead and give us an interview.
He wants to sit down with us first before we talk to anybody else. Wow.
I mean, that's great. That's really great.
Getting Jeff Strelzin is a big deal for us.
He's been on Maura's case since day one.
He's one of the key reasons why law enforcement has remained silent for so
years. He's also done very few interviews with the media about Morris'
If we get him to open up, it will move the needle forward in a way no one ever
has.
I really want to try and understand how it was initially.
looked at and investigated.
I think there's a lot of questions about that. How extensive was the
investigation from the beginning?
You've got to be mindful that we might get a lot of, I can't comment on that.
Are you surprised at how much attention this case has gotten over the... I'm not
because really over the last, you know, 10 or 15 years with the advent of the
internet. People really take an interest in what we do. They take an interest in
police, prosecution, and people love a mystery, and this is a mystery. And I
think people like the challenge, too. They want to be the ones to solve it.
People have said that you guys know where she is. We don't know where she
and we don't know where she was going, and we don't know what happened to her.
We have done searches, interviews, grand jury work, forensic testing.
We followed up on leads from Psychic.
I mean, we have done anything that there is to follow up on it. We've done it.
What particular tests have you done?
I can't get into the specifics because it's an open criminal case.
Now, there's been a lot of talk, and I know we have tons of armchair
detectives out there.
Internet experts.
Yeah, internet experts.
And a lot of that stuff has been critical of law enforcement. I mean,
your take on that?
People form opinions on...
Less than perfect information is what I would say.
Throughout this investigation, there hasn't been a person of interest or a
suspect. Have you ruled anybody out?
So it's our practice not to name suspects in a case. We don't typically
that. But have people been ruled out that you've looked at and said, okay,
definitely not?
I would tell you that it's difficult to rule anyone out until you know what
happened. Butch Atwood is now dead. Have you tried reaching out to his wife to
ask more questions?
I'm not going to give you any specifics about who we've talked to or what we've
done in the case.
He was the last person to see her.
Maybe he was.
Maybe he wasn't.
We don't know that answer until we find out what happened to Maura.
Strawson is notorious for keeping details about Maura's case close to the
Sitting across from him right now, it seems like he has a non -answer for
everything.
I know Fred Murray is frustrated that he can't see the files.
Why can't Fred see the files?
We have shared more information with Fred than anyone else, but we want to
protect any potential case. We've explained that to Fred over and over
that that's why we're doing it. If it turns out that Moore has been the victim
of a murder and we were able to find that perpetrator and prosecute that
having information that's only known to the investigators is critical.
Being able to say in a courtroom...
The reason that defendant knew that is because he or she was the killer, not
because they read it on the news or read it on the blog.
If there is a killer out there, the last thing we want the killer to know is to
know what we have and don't have.
If there is a killer out there, the last thing we want the killer to know is to
know what we have and don't have.
Lead prosecutor Jeff Strelzin is defending his department's handling of
Murray's disappearance.
You have an adult, probably had been drinking, gets in a relatively minor
accident, and decides they don't want to be their way for the police. So that's
something fairly common for law enforcement to have happen, which is why
initially nobody really thought this was anything more than that.
So the woods area wasn't really searched that night? No, nobody would have gone
out in the woods that night.
Because again, they're not thinking that somebody is going to be out in the
woods. Do you find it strange that she disappeared in such a short window of
time that every witness, and there was a couple, happened to just all turn
around around the same time and not see where she went?
No, I mean, it only takes a few seconds to turn and walk away.
And if she doesn't want to draw attention to herself, she could have
feet off the road behind a tree and no one would have seen or heard her.
It's certainly possible she was right there nearby watching everything and
waited until everybody left.
I get it.
That may be possible.
But the adult who was possibly drinking was a young woman. And the senior
assistant attorney general has to know that some 70 ,000 women in the U .S. are
currently missing, many under similar circumstances.
So in this dark, cold, remote spot, it just makes me wonder if Strelton's
is good enough.
What is your actual opinion?
About what happened to her? Yeah, about what happened to her. I think there are
three things that could have happened to Maura.
Number one is she decided on her own to leave, voluntarily.
I think it's less probable, but it is possible.
The second one is that Maura was injured and wandered off into the woods
somewhere and likely died of hypothermia, and her body is somewhere
woods.
People have said there's no way that Moore could have just ended up in the
and just collapsed and died of hypothermia.
And I'm like, that's absurd.
It's a very real possibility. It happens all the time. But I think people say
that because the woods were searched.
It doesn't mean anything.
I say to people, how many dead animals have you seen in the woods?
Zero is what most people will tell you.
It's an interesting point.
And in these woods especially, it would be challenging to find anything.
They're so dense and vast.
The third one is that somebody took her and hurt her and killed her. She was a
victim of foul play.
There's also the fourth option that some people think.
The police had something to do with Maura's disappearance.
You know, the idea that what the local police... Did something to Maura Murray?
What is that based on?
People want answers. They don't like loose ends, so they start to point
I get it, but that's not evidence.
My question for them is, well, what in particular did they do wrong?
What law enforcement did and didn't do is what Maura's family has been angry
about for years.
They can't answer why they didn't drive two minutes down the road. They can't
answer why they took 38 hours to start the investigation.
Adults can and sometimes do decide to simply leave and take off for whatever
reason. They're allowed to do that. There's nothing illegal about that.
After starting slowly, Strelzen finally opened up to us, and I'm hopeful that
our request to interview more police will be granted.
As we wait to hear, a sad yet important day has arrived.
Good afternoon and thank you for joining us on the 13th year since Maura Murray
mysteriously vanished from this exact location.
Every year on the anniversary of Maura's disappearance, people gather in New
Hampshire to discuss new leads, theories, and rumors.
There's so much that surrounds the accident scene that just does not make
The event is organized by local resident John Smith.
The questions that surround that night in that area are questions that need to
be answered. We should get answers. They're simple answers that would not
interfere with the prosecution of this case unless it is one of their own.
A former police officer, John wanted to do everything he could to help.
It was 2004 in February. The news story came on the local WMUR TV station.
She crashed her 1996 black Saturn sedan here on Route 112 in Woodsville.
The case caught my eye because it was 17 miles from my house, and then I was
just like, well, you know, no big deal. It's only a couple days.
Efforts to find Maura Murray continue.
And then when I saw the next report, she had been gone now, whatever, almost two
weeks. I was like, well, where did she go?
That was what really intrigued me, and that was when I called Mr. Murray.
I wanted to help the family find their way around and help them do any
interviews. And that was when two days later, two New Hampshire State Police
detectives came to my work.
They said, look, you're interfering with an investigation. If you continue, we
will arrest you. And what made you change your mind? I mean, the police
telling you they were going to arrest you.
I was a cop 30 years ago. I know enough to know what interfering with an
investigation is.
So to me, that's telling.
There's something there that they didn't want me to know, and that's what drove
me.
With Fred's blessing, John dug into the police investigation.
I've gone down too many roads in the past 13 years, literally and
I've looked at places that I believe that, yeah, she could be being held
there. We have witness statements that don't match narratives.
This catches my attention.
He's referring to all three neighbors around the crash site.
Tell me a little bit about that. What points you in that direction?
The Westmans have had different stories, which Atwood had different stories.
I mean, you know, the Marat said they saw somebody at the trunk, but none of
that was reported in the narrative.
It was only said in the papers later.
John has asked for reports and clarification from the police.
His requests have been denied.
You're familiar with how the police work. You don't think they're just doing
their job and holding some of this back because they can't share it?
No. There's too many inaccuracies, the lies.
Maybe they're just, you know, bad police work, but I see them as lies.
So what would the police be lying about or covering up?
The timeline. The timeline is just, it does not make any sense, especially with
Witness A.
He is alluding to a theory that I've read on blogs. A passing motorist,
to as Witness A, reported seeing a black and white SUV number 001.
Nose to nose with Maura's car at the accident site.
But neither an SUV nor a vehicle marked 001 is in the official police records
as being on the scene.
There's only one SUV in the town.
and says Haverhill on the side, and it's SUV 001, black and white.
Who would have been driving 001?
The chief usually drives 001.
Haverhill's police chief at the time was Jeff Williams, but he's never reported
to have been on site at Morris Craft.
What would be the one question you would ask him if you had one question?
What did you do with Maura Murray?
There's only one SUV in the town, and it says Haverhill on the side, and it's
SUV 001, black and white.
Who would have been driving 001?
The chief usually drives 001. What would be the one question you would ask him
if you had one question?
What did you do with Maura Murray?
Murray family investigator John Smith says former Haverhill police chief Jeff
Williams may have had a hand in Maura Murray's disappearance.
His theory is a popular one.
It centers around someone called Witness A, who says they saw his SUV parked
nose -to -nose with Morris Saturn after she crashed.
But Chief Williams was not reported present at the crash site that evening,
was his SUV 001.
So that makes someone lying about the vehicle.
It's Witness A versus the police.
What do you make of that?
The only thing I can say is that Jeff Williams in the town is known that he's
driven the cruiser drunk.
I've talked to plenty of locals that have told me that. He had been stopped
before for DWI.
Could the chief have caused Maura's accident?
Or did he stumble onto Maura in the aftermath of her crash, playing some
her disappearance?
And you take witness A's account?
I take witness A's about 100%. Genuine.
John is saying that while other witness accounts have changed over the years,
Witness A's story never has.
After concealing her identity for most of the last 13 years, she's decided to
speak with us on camera.
You didn't want to have your name attached to this?
It didn't feel like it would be safe for me to do that because obviously
something bad happened. I don't know what or who. Right.
Because I'm thinking if there's some kind of wrongdoing with law enforcement,
was kind of scary to me. But they know who I am because I called and told them
who I am. So then I thought it would be safer if people knew who I am.
The official police report states that at 7 .27 p .m., Faith Westman called 911
to report a car off the road outside of her home.
Sergeant Cecil Smith arrives at the crash site at 7 .46 p .m.
It's this official timeline that Karen takes issue with.
It was dark when I left my office, and from my office I made a phone call home.
To say I was on my way, which I always do because it's a very long stretch of
road with no cell service and no houses and no lights.
Do you remember what time you left work that night?
Not exactly.
My guess is that I may have left the office at 10 past 7, 15 past 7.
Depending on weather and road conditions, it was roughly a 40 -minute
Karen's work to home. And where was Maura in that? Maybe a quarter of the
Okay.
When I got to the corner by the weathered barn, the police car was
there was another car facing it. They were nose to nose on the right.
It didn't even look like an accident to me. What it actually looked like is she
had driven her car onto the wrong side of the road, and it was just up against
the snowbank.
I don't remember seeing any people standing in the cars or whatever. I
remember seeing any.
Anybody there?
I pulled over to the left and turned and looked.
And I said, no, there's not really anything I can do. Please sit here.
It doesn't look like a bad accident, and my cell phone won't even work here, so
what do I have to offer?
And this is where Karen's timing becomes critical.
There's no cell service between the accident site and Beaver Pond.
the first place she would regain cell service, roughly a 14 -minute drive
When I got to the Beaver Pond, I made a phone call to say I'm coming into town.
Karen's phone record confirmed that once she had cell service, she placed two
calls in quick succession, the first at 7 .52 p .m.
If we take into account the one to two minutes Karen estimates she stopped at
the accident scene and back timed the drive, that puts Karen at the crash site
at approximately 7 .37 p .m., nine minutes before Sergeant Smith arrived at
.46.
So if Sergeant Smith was nine minutes behind her, who was driving the police
SUV?
But Karen knew none of these details at the time.
She only knew that 21 -year -old Maura Murray was missing.
Maura Murray's photo first appeared on Missing. I remember seeing it on my TV
that she was missing.
And they said, you know, if anyone knows anything, call us.
And I told them, I said, you know, car 01 passed me. And they went, wait, car
01?
Are you sure it was 001? And I said, absolutely, without a doubt, I know it
001. A day or two later, I got a call back from the police department, and
asked me, are you sure it was 001? And I thought it was odd that they would call
back, and they didn't say, like, are you sure you didn't see anybody?
They were like, are you sure it was 001? And I said, yeah.
If Karen's account is accurate, what and who did she see?
Could it have been Keith Williams?
who was known to have driven SUV 001.
Could he have been drinking and caused the accident?
Or did he stumble into the accident and then engage in some kind of foul play?
What about a possible third theory that Karen may just not have had all the
information and Jeff Williams wasn't involved at all?
No one knows because the police have never spoken about it.
I think it's significant that what I saw was before the police reported to have
arrived. And so that says something's wrong.
Do you wish you had gone back and asked if you could help?
Sometimes I do, and sometimes I think that I may have disappeared too if I
I feel it's risky to say it on camera, but I don't totally trust the police.
Did Witness A see something that could implicate the police in Maura's
disappearance?
I have to interview former Chief Jeff Williams and Cecil Smith, the police
officer who was supposedly first on the scene at Maura's crash.
But we're still waiting for permission from Prosecutor Jeff Straubin.
Fred Murray thinks the cops' code of silence exists for an additional reason.
I think they're hiding their own lack of performance, lack of proper
performance. The very first thing is the fact that it's a state -patrolled
highway. The local police were there too, but their jurisdiction ends 100
up the street. So we know that no search happened beyond those 100 yards
by the local police.
The person that can search down there, who is the state cop, who's there.
It's his beat.
Cecil Smith, the local Haverhill police officer, couldn't search across his line
of jurisdiction.
But local police told Fred about another officer on scene who could have.
A state trooper named John Monahan.
I met the commanding officer of the state police, the lieutenant.
The New Hampshire State Police didn't know that they had one of their own
officers there. They said, we didn't hear about that.
My heart just absolutely sank right through the floor.
If Trooper Monaghan was on site, wouldn't he have told his supervisors or
his own report?
Could he have seen something he didn't want to share?
Did it have something to do with what Witness A saw?
Or did he neglect to search for Maura in his jurisdiction and is covering up his
own actions?
Monaghan has never said in public why he didn't alert his superiors.
My daughter has not been saved.
And they're not talking. And they haven't talked since.
Their guy on the scene of a missing girl that hasn't been seen in 13 years. What
did you do, mister?
Law enforcement's silence seems like why the public thinks they really could be
hiding something.
So Art and I have placed an additional request into the prosecutor, Jeff
Strelvin. We also want State Trooper Monaghan to sit down with us.
Maybe, if they all talk, we can put this theory to rest.
Maybe we'll all agree with Strelvin that they're simply protecting an active
case.
Two weeks later, we get a breakthrough.
We can interview State Trooper Monahan and local officer Cecil Smith.
There's only one condition.
Jeff Strelzin will be in the room during both of our interviews.
How are you? Good. I'm John Monahan.
It's this kind of move that makes those interested in this case suspicious of
the police.
There's been a lot of things said about law enforcement and what they did and
didn't do.
Is there anything that you would like to clear up or say to just any of those
people?
Sure. So this is really the first time I've been able to openly talk about my
story.
I heard a call come in for a car crash on Route 112.
So when I got to the scene, I pulled up and Cecil Smith was already there.
And I rolled down my passenger side window and said, hey, what's up?
Do you need me to do anything? And he said, well, Butch, this bus driver, is
checking up in the Mountain Lakes area.
And I said, well, I'll look around and I'll check some of the back roads. So I
did.
We know the neighbor, Butch Atwood, told police he spoke to Maura after the
crash.
It's interesting to hear that Sergeant Smith enlisted Butch's help and didn't
consider him suspicious, like so many people do.
I turned around and I went back toward Swiftwater.
It made sense that you would go back toward where there's more civilization.
So I confined my search area to where I knew there were people and stores
because it appeared that's where the car must have come from.
and didn't see anyone, didn't see any footprints. So about an hour later, I
left. You didn't get out and interview any of the neighbors?
No, not that night, no. We did do a bunch of follow -up investigation, but
evening, no.
So Monaghan searched, but only from his car.
And he didn't go east, the direction Fred was hoping for.
We know that no search happened beyond...
Those hundred yards by the local police, east in the direction she was headed.
The person that can search down there, who is the state cop, who's there.
It's his beef.
And then a day or two after that is when my lieutenant called me, and he's like,
hey, did you help Haverhill with a car crash? And I said, yeah.
And he said, is there a report? And I said, no, I did what we called a general
service report that just assisted other departments.
And he said, well, I think we're going to need to pull a report on it and write
a better narrative.
If this is true, this would explain why when Fred met with Monaghan's superiors
two days after the accident, they didn't know.
that monahan was actually on scene at the crash site such a simple explanation
so why haven't they told fred this and put an end to his speculation can you
tell me a little bit about what was done in the follow -up investigation i think
i went to three places that had surveillance cameras cumberland farms dp
stop and then shaw's in woodsville still where it was
It's named Shaw's today, but back in 2004, it was called Butson's.
Crime writer James Renner told me an eyewitness thought she saw Maura and two
women there just before the crash.
This sighting supports James' theory that Maura ran away with help from
she knew.
I pulled the tapes just to see if perhaps she had stopped there on her way
through and didn't find anything.
Maura was not in Butson's.
This important confirmation puts another dent in the tandem driver theory.
Have you heard anything about, like, this witness A?
Right. That was one of the things that somebody said, hey, did you see that
there's this new theory?
It's not what I saw. I pulled up and Cecil was there, and then I left.
Monaghan seems like a straight shooter, and I feel he answered truthfully.
Could he have conducted a more thorough search that evening?
Or searched in a different direction?
Probably. But I don't think he engaged in any kind of a conspiracy.
Sergeant Cecil Smith, however, could be a different story.
This is his first interview about Maura Murray.
Hi, Maggie, nice to meet you. Thanks for meeting us.
Hi, how are you?
Ever.
I was dispatched to the report of a car accident and came around the corner and
there was a black vehicle in my lane facing me and there was no one around
vehicle. Sergeant Cecil Smith was the first law enforcement officer at Maura
Murray's crash site.
This is his first interview ever.
I could see something red had been splashed on the driver's side door and I
saw Something splashed on the ceiling of the vehicle. I could make an educated
guess that it was wine from the box of wine that was sitting behind the
seat.
I went and talked to Mr. Atwood.
I said, did she look like she was hurt? Because when I made a quick check of the
vehicle, both airbags were deployed, and there was a crack on the windshield
driver's side.
He said, no, she looked shaken up, but she didn't look hurt, but I think she'd
been drinking because she slurred her speech and she had to lean on something
while she was standing there.
He said, I asked her if she wanted me to call the police. No, please don't call
the police.
What did you make of Butch when you spoke with him?
I didn't speak to him very long. I just probably less than a minute, I would
say.
I didn't know him before, so... This response is intriguing.
I didn't ask him if he knew him, so it's an odd piece of information for
Sergeant Smith to offer up, unprompted.
It makes me wonder how he'll answer another important question.
Have you heard the theory that there was another officer on the scene before
you, the report by Witness A?
I've heard of that, but there was...
There was no one there when I got on scene.
What vehicle were you in?
I was in the Explorer 4x4.
And the reason that would have been, it was around this time of year, winter,
February, snow on the ground.
So, according to Officer Smith, he was driving the SUV, not a sedan, as
everyone has speculated.
And according to this account, the former chief, Jeff Williams, was not
involved. Were you at all concerned, thinking that there was a girl who was
maybe drinking out in the cold? Yes.
I did check in the immediate area.
East, it would have been.
Checking both sides of the road.
Granted, I didn't get to go a great distance, but I saw no indication that
somebody had gone through the snow.
Did you ever talk to the family, any of the family members? I did.
Fred, I explained it to him, and he said, well, you know, she had an
couple days ago.
She's all depressed.
You know, she might have done the old squaw.
What's that?
Well, you know, you're depressed, and you go out in the woods, you step off
trail, and you die.
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