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[wind rushing ominously]
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[footsteps echoing]
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[woman singing operatic music distantly]
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[woman] We meet in this courtyard today
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to remember the events
of Thursday, the 7th of July.
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Each of us standing here today
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have our own thoughts and memories
of that awful moment…
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[ringing beep]
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…when the noise of the explosion faded
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and the reality of the situation
hit our consciousness.
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[ominous music plays]
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[traffic whistle blowing]
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Just wait there for a second.
Put your bag on the floor, please.
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[man] In 2005, I was a firearms officer.
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After 7/7, everybody was on edge.
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You can't put into words
how scared people were.
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Especially as a firearms officer,
you were just waiting for that call.
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[ominous music continues]
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[siren blaring]
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There was a feeling
of almost a war footing,
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and people were jumpy.
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[ominous music continues]
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[C5] It was a war on terror.
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I felt it had come home to roost,
really, with that.
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[operatic singing continues]
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[C5] I think everybody was on tenterhooks.
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They were all kind of waiting
for the next thing to happen.
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It's not normally a one-off.
There's normally a series of these things.
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[ominous music crescendoes, fades]
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-[train horn blaring]
-[train wheels clunking on track]
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[man] It had been two weeks
since the events of 7/7.
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[bass-heavy rhythmic music plays]
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I was a firefighter,
and my son was just six weeks old.
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It was a normal thing of a young family.
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Chaotic, I suppose.
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So, I was traveling to work
outside of the rush hour,
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and we were just rattling along
on the Northern Line.
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[timer ticking]
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[Angus] We pulled into Stockwell Station.
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[male announcer] Mind the gap.
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[signal sounds]
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[tense music plays]
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[Angus] I didn't notice anyone untoward.
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There was a baby,
and the baby was being a bit raucous.
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I have no distinct memory of him
prior to the… to the bang.
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[tense music continues]
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[high-pitched beep sounding]
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He was nondescript.
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He was, you know,
a very ordinary-looking young man,
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who you would pass on the street
and not think twice about at all.
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[indistinct screaming]
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Once the smoke started to clear,
I could distinctly see him.
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He was screaming.
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[silent background]
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I thought he was in pain.
I said, "Look, I can help you."
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He was frightened.
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I thought, "I'm dealing with someone
who's scared, who needs help."
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But, no, he didn't--
he didn't want my help.
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His demeanor became
really quite aggressive.
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He's now threatening to kill me.
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But as I got as close as I am to you now,
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I could then see on the floor
the remnants of his rucksack.
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[tense music builds]
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[Angus] So I said, "What the fuck is that?
You tell me what that is."
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"I wanna know what that is now."
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He says, "This is wrong."
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And he points at me,
and he says, "You're wrong."
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And then he talks as a whole,
and he says, "This is all wrong."
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[indistinct background voices]
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And what's on the floor
is this, um, mass of yellow foam
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that's popping and fizzing.
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[sizzling sound]
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Within it, I can quite clearly see
nuts and bolts, and nails.
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[dark music playing]
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The point of realization
is a terrifying one
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because, suddenly, you've--
He's not just a young man.
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Um, this is someone
who's trying to kill us.
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[dark music continues]
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[train wheels rumbling]
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A sense of panic, wanting to run away,
and then not having anywhere to go.
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This thing on the floor
is trying to explode.
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It's right next to me.
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And I'm all on my own.
Um, that's-- that's terrifying.
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[train whooshing]
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That's when I pull the alarm,
and that's when the train slows.
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[brakes squealing]
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[Angus] He swore at me again.
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He certainly kicked the doors
a number of times.
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[kicks thudding loudly]
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There was a long, pregnant pause.
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[kicking continues]
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Then all of a sudden,
the doors open… [whistles] …they open.
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I call out after him,
"Stop him! Stop him!" But he was gone.
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[tense rhythmic music plays]
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[indistinct background voices]
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[tense rhythmic music builds]
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[music stops abruptly]
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The first thing I did was phone my wife
and say, "Hello." [chuckles]
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And it's a ridiculous conversation.
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"I think something's happened.
I think someone's tried to kill me."
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She said,
"Actually, I'm watching the news,
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and it's happening again all over London."
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"They're doing it again.
It must've happened to you."
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"They're trying to blow London up again."
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[siren blares]
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To break you some news,
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we're getting reports
of a reported series of incidents
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on what may be the tube system,
uh, we are told.
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Warren Street, which is,
uh, on the Victoria line,
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in the north of London.
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The Oval, of course,
down to the south of London.
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And Shepherd's Bush out to the west.
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-Everybody, get out the road!
-[siren blaring]
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Can we have you all move
towards the Central Line, please?
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[anchor] I'm going to interrupt you, Joe,
getting news that emergency services say
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they're responding to reports
of an incident on a bus in Hackney Road.
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Have to ask you to move back.
Can't explain why at the moment,
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but if you bear with me,
move back as quickly as possible.
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[siren blares]
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[witness 1] A man was carrying a rucksack.
The rucksack suddenly exploded.
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I just had this smell,
this terrible smell.
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Start moving back now, please.
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Thank you very much….
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And we've been stopped in Oval
and asked to leave the train.
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[siren blaring]
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We just saw lots of people
run into our carriage.
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By that time, we were pulling
into Warren Street Station.
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[officer] Keep moving!
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[witness 2] There was a general panic.
Everyone was panicking.
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I knew it was a bomb,
and I said my prayers.
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[siren blaring]
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-[man 1] Seeing four incidents…
-[man 2] Yes.
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[man 1] North, south, west, and east.
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Two weeks on, and once again,
large sections of London being evacuated.
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Inevitably, this time,
there will be early questions
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about security and about intelligence.
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[siren wailing in distance]
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[somber music playing]
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[Tony Blair] For sure, our anxiety was
there would be other attacks
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that would come.
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It's just in the nature of these things,
and other people think,
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"We can multiply the pain," as it were,
"on the country by further attacks."
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So we gave a lot of credibility
to the possibility of this threat.
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And I think,
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to be fair to the security services,
they put a huge amount of effort
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into making sure
that… that those attacks were prevented.
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But it's in the nature of these things
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that there's a limit
to how much you're able to do.
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[somber music continues]
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That, I'm afraid, is a common
and uncomfortable feeling in MI5,
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that you will know enough
to be anxious and worried
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that something is coming,
but not enough to stop it.
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[silent background]
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[Eliza] Terrorism can often be imitated.
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People are inspired by something
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and try and copy it.
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I was concerned whether my service,
and indeed the police,
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and indeed the British public,
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could tolerate that sort of tempo
of attempted attacks.
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[siren wailing in distance]
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One of my colleagues knocked on the door,
came into the room,
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and just said, "It looks like there's been
a number of further attacks."
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Sort of bore very similar hallmarks
to what had happened on the 7th of July.
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[dark music playing]
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[Doug] There had been four incidents.
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One on an underground train near the Oval.
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[indistinct background commotion]
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One at Warren Street.
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[indistinct screaming]
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One on an Underground train,
albeit above ground, at Shepherd's Bush.
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And then on a bus out in Hackney.
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[explosion]
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And early accounts
describe the individuals
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who were clearly carrying the devices.
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It just felt very similar
to the 7th of July.
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[sirens blare]
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[witness] A minor explosion,
but enough to blow open the rucksack,
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and the man then made an exclamation
as if something had gone wrong.
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[Doug] But it was apparent
from the very outset
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that they hadn't detonated,
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and it did not look as if anyone
had been killed or injured.
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The four suspects of these four attacks
had failed and fled the scene.
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[anchor 1] Um, reports of someone
seen running away.
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[reporter 1] Uh, those sniffer dogs
that arrived here
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are not down in the Underground,
as you perhaps might expect.
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They're actually out here in the open.
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They're looking for someone above ground,
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not necessarily below-ground
at this stage.
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[pulsing electronic music plays]
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[siren blaring]
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I was day shift,
travelling along the South Bank,
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when the call came in, and it was like,
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"Shit. Here we go again."
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[pulsing electronic music continues]
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[Dave] There's four bombers now,
on the loose.
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This is real. This is happening.
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And now we need to step up
and do what we can.
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The terrorist has an objective
to detonate his device
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and to kill as many people as possible.
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If they haven't met that objective,
then they're twice as dangerous,
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because what are they gonna do next?
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They know that
we're gonna be looking for them.
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They've got nothing else to lose.
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Certainly, the concern was that nobody
really knew what was in the playbook
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of a failed suicide bomber.
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[pulsing electronic music continues]
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[reporter 2] The reports coming in
that armed police
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have actually entered, uh, UCL Hospital.
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[anchor 2]
This is near Warren Street tube station.
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Police asking staff to look out
for a male, Black,
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possibly Asian appearance,
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with a blue top
and a hole in the rear of the top
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with wires protruding from it,
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uh, which is rather alarming.
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[Doug] We were also aware
that the 7th of July bombers had small,
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homemade explosive devices
in the Nissan Micra at Luton station.
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Almost to have in readiness
had they failed in their attack.
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[explosion]
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I think the greatest concern
at that early stage
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was that the guys on the run
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would make a plan B up on the hoof.
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They would just mount another attack.
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-[timer ticking]
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[indistinct police radio chatter]
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The person who was believed
to be the Oval bomber
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was sighted crossing Westminster Bridge.
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Information we had at the time
was that it was a Asian male,
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dark clothing, and had a rucksack.
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We had hundreds of calls following 7/7
who matched that description.
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And nine times out of ten,
they're innocent.
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Just going to school, college, work.
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But this person was then sighted
going on to Downing Street.
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This person had been seen
at the exact locations where
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a terrorist or a bomber
would want to target
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to inflict maximum damage.
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He's an immediate threat
to the people around him,
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an immediate threat potentially
to the Prime Minister at the time,
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and he's a threat to us.
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This is game on. This is who we're after.
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Okay, guys, back, please!
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Hello. Please move back around the corner!
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[Dave] When we got onto Downing Street,
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a male was sighted
on the southern pavement.
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[officer 1] Can you move back,
please, folks?
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[officer 2] Keep moving back further,
mate. Move back.
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[officer 3 speaking]
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[officer 4] Undo your shirt.
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[Dave] I can remember him
ditching the rucksack,
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and I'm fixated on his hands.
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[officer 1] Move back down the pavement.
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Back to Parliament Square, please.
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He starts unbuttoning his shirt.
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[uneasy music playing]
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And we see the chest is clean-shaven.
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Part of our training
was to recognize somebody
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who had prepared to martyr themselves,
and that is to cleanse their body.
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We could see
there was no suicide vest there,
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but threat's still there.
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Could he have something else
concealed with him? Absolutely.
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[male anchor] Police have actually
drawn their weapons
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at the end of Downing Street,
where that protective gate is.
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They've actually taken aim at something.
We're not quite sure what that is.
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I was scared.
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Everyone was scared.
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[male anchor] We know the police
had been issued with this instruction
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to aim for the head.
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[Dave] If he makes a sudden move,
I may need to pull the trigger.
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And that means taking
a critical shot to the head to stop him.
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[officer 3] Keep moving
as quick as you can, please.
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If you cut the head off a snake,
it can't bite you.
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[officer 3] Keep going, please.
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I don't want to kill that person.
I don't want to take somebody's life.
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But if I have to,
that's what I've signed up to do.
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[female anchor] This is the end
of Downing Street.
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Of course, inside, you saw the pictures,
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there are journalists waiting
to hear from the Prime Minister.
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But here are these security officials,
armed to the teeth there, aren't they?
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They're at the end,
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and a man is being led away
quite clearly, as you can see.
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-[officer 3] Back to Parliament Square!
-[officer 1] Move back, please!
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Back to Parliament Square! Come on, move.
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Further back, please!
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He was innocent.
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The next person I dealt with was innocent,
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and the person after that,
and the person after that.
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But there was never a sigh of relief.
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[exhales] We didn't have time.
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It was literally, move on.
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Because they were still out there,
still out on the streets of London.
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-[foreboding music plays]
-[sirens wailing distantly]
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[anchor] No suggestion, of course,
that individual's connected
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with any of these events.
Police taking no chances with the alert.
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The Prime Minister, the Foreign Secretary,
the Home Secretary,
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the Commissioner of Metropolitan Police,
all in Downing Street
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for this news conference
that we're expecting fairly shortly.
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[Tony] As Prime Minister,
you have security.
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Of course you worry about your family.
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But you're not likely to be in a situation
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where you're just left
without any protection,
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so my main worry was that there was people
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who wanted to cause deep, profound harm
to our country, and to our people.
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[solemn orchestral music plays]
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[Tony] Okay, they killed over 50 people
on July the 7th.
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If they could've killed over 500,
they would've.
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Or 5,000, they would've.
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-[camera shutters clicking]
-[indistinct murmuring]
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Right, good afternoon, everyone, and, uh…
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a warm welcome to
Prime Minister John Howard from Australia.
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I hope you'll forgive me if I say to you,
it's best for operational details
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to go to the police
and the emergency services
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and others
that can give you the information.
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Um… [sighs]
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We can't minimize incidents such as this,
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because they have been serious
in the four different places, as we know.
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Um, I think all I'd like to say
is this that…
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We know why these things are done.
They're done to scare people
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and to frighten them,
to make them anxious and worried.
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[siren blares distantly]
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[woman] My overriding memory of 21/7
is that that was the moment
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that I started to feel quite scared.
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It just suddenly felt like
it wasn't a one-off,
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that it could happen again.
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It started to make me question
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if this was something
we were gonna keep on dealing with,
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how that was gonna impact
our way of life,
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but also, again, you know,
being British Muslim,
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what the implications of that.
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The way of defeating it is to defeat it,
of course, by security measures,
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but also by going
after the ideas of these people,
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this evil, bankrupt ideology
based on a perversion of Islam.
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And the best way of doing that
is to show how the values of freedom
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and tolerance and respect for people
of other religions and races,
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is the best way to lead our lives.
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[alarm blaring]
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[timer ticking]
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[anchor 1] The other aspect,
we were getting reports
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of armed police
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at University College Hospital,
quite close to Warren Street, of course.
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Let's just bring you some pictures
now we're receiving
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as police search people in the area.
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Step back for me, please.
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[intriguing music playing]
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[officer 1 speaking]
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I mean, I always identified as Muslim,
and I was really proud to be Muslim,
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but, all of a sudden,
it was like the lines were drawn.
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[intriguing music continues]
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-[officer 2 speaking]
-[man] No.
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[Yasmin] Your name identified
who you were.
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How you looked identified
how you were treated.
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Anybody who was Muslim,
or even, like, looked a bit Muslim.
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[anchor 1]
Reports someone had been seen running away
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from Warren Street tube station.
Male, Black, possibly Asian appearance.
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And of course, you know,
like everybody else in the world,
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Muslims were wanting
to be able to be safe,
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walking on the streets,
not to be victims of these awful attacks.
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But we actually had another burden
placed on us as well of suspicion,
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of racism, and, um,
a lot of discrimination.
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[intriguing music continues]
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[witness] Police had him pinned
to the wall.
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Um, I would say he's a Pakistani guy.
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And apparently the rumor was,
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there was another one upstairs,
hiding in a cupboard.
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[Tony] We had to strike that balance
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between making sure we didn't end up
with the Muslim community
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feeling that it was being
targeted as a whole,
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but, on the other hand,
responding to what was a genuine,
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and perfectly justifiable,
anxiety in the broader community
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that there was a problem,
and we had to deal with it.
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[anchor 2] Police released him, a victim,
he said, of appearances.
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I'm like everyone, you know?
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-Thanks a lot, sir.
-All right.
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Have a good day. Bye.
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You know, the profiling
that was going on at the time,
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it just felt
that we were building to this point
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where, at some point, it would go too far.
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[menacing music playing]
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[man] I was quite recently
into the counter-terrorism world,
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and I suppose people saw me as the guy
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who was brought in to deal
with proactivity around counter-terrorism,
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manhunt-style activity,
so if we had to find people quickly.
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[dramatic music playing]
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I was responsible for identifying them,
locating them, and bringing them in.
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There's a whole machine
that comes into action.
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[phone rings]
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We're doing lots of CCTV trawling
to capture who may have been in the area.
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To track back
where they may have come from,
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and to take forward
where they may have gone.
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Securing any intelligence,
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using all the sensitive
and secret techniques that we have
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before they could put right
whatever went wrong with these devices.
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We had no idea at the time
if they were just another cell
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within a larger organization
or a completely independent group.
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And the starting point for that
is you need a starting point.
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It's a manhunt for who?
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[dramatic music continues]
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The role of MI5 at this stage
is to support and help the police
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to the best of our ability.
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We're looking at all our coverage
of people on our radar.
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We know of people,
regularly know of people,
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without knowing what they're going to do.
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And people
who don't appear to be a threat,
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overnight, become one.
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And unless you're watching them
at that moment,
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you may not detect that transition.
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[dramatic music continues]
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It's a question of finding
and connecting that intelligence.
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[timer ticking]
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[Jon] This is a, as you'd expect,
a 24-hour operation.
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People working through the night…
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[foreboding music plays]
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[Jon] I'm pushing people
to do more and more and more
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and get more information
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to understand
where these failed suicide bombers are.
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Once the scenes had all been declared safe
by the explosives officers,
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the crime scene investigators
had begun their searches of the scene.
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Our forensic officers recovered
some items, including photographs,
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and a gym membership card
from the rucksack
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that had been left behind
at Shepherd's Bush.
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[intense action music playing]
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[shutter clicks]
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[Doug] A critical breakthrough.
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[man] We got a call
in the very early hours of the morning.
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[phone rings]
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And under the Terrorism Act,
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two CID officers asked us
to attend the premises.
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We were very concerned.
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[lock clicks]
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[Klaus] We opened the club.
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We turned the computers on
in the dead of night.
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They wanted to get a visual
and a positive ID on a member,
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Hussain Osman.
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[intense rhythmic music playing]
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[Klaus] They were asking
what type of person he was.
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He was polite,
pleasant to members of staff.
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He was known by members of staff by name.
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Hussain Osman seemed
like any other normal member,
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and that's why it was so shocking
for everyone when we found out.
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Why didn't we know there was
something wrong with that individual?
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He was so under-the-radar.
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They wanted to have an ID of Hussain Osman
and his address from our system.
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We confirmed that the address
was 21 Scotia Road.
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[intense rhythmic music continues]
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[solemn music playing]
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In 2005, I was a surveillance operative
at SO12 Special Branch.
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It was dedicated surveillance working
against counter-terrorism subjects.
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Following people, in layman's terms.
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We were briefed around 7:45.
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As part of our briefing,
we were shown a photographic pack
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with a subject
whose code name was Nettle Tip.
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Believed to be Hussain Osman,
the failed Shepherd's Bush suicide bomber.
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We were shown an image of him,
a photocopy of a gym membership card.
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It was a grainy image, of poor quality.
455
00:28:43,821 --> 00:28:47,541
Our briefing was expedited.
Rushed, almost.
456
00:28:47,621 --> 00:28:49,501
But the stakes were high, we knew that.
457
00:28:49,581 --> 00:28:53,021
We knew that it was important we get
out there and look for these people.
458
00:28:55,541 --> 00:28:57,261
The Grey Team, we made our way,
459
00:28:57,341 --> 00:29:01,861
and we sat off
from the address in South London.
460
00:29:04,741 --> 00:29:10,581
21 Scotia Road, I believed,
was a single address, an address.
461
00:29:10,661 --> 00:29:15,461
The address
where either the failed suicide bombers,
462
00:29:15,541 --> 00:29:18,901
or associates of failed suicide bombers,
463
00:29:18,981 --> 00:29:20,581
were potentially residing.
464
00:29:20,661 --> 00:29:23,621
[grim music plays]
465
00:29:28,901 --> 00:29:32,061
[Aidy] Elsewhere, the firearms teams
were briefed separately.
466
00:29:34,221 --> 00:29:35,821
[C5] The morning of 22/7…
467
00:29:38,141 --> 00:29:42,381
we were told, "Today, you may be
called upon to use unusual tactics."
468
00:29:42,461 --> 00:29:46,181
And I think someone said,
"What do you mean, like a critical shot?"
469
00:29:46,261 --> 00:29:50,101
And he said, "All I'll say is
don't question anything you're told,
470
00:29:50,181 --> 00:29:52,181
because you will not have
the full picture."
471
00:29:52,261 --> 00:29:53,941
[grim music continues]
472
00:29:55,261 --> 00:29:58,621
[C5] They gave us already-loaded,
fresh magazines
473
00:29:58,701 --> 00:30:00,101
with hollow-point ammunition.
474
00:30:03,021 --> 00:30:07,621
We were told that some of the devices
could be small, like a suicide vest.
475
00:30:07,701 --> 00:30:09,781
It could be a belt with a bomb in it.
476
00:30:09,861 --> 00:30:14,021
It could be a coffee jar size
that could go in a pocket.
477
00:30:14,101 --> 00:30:15,061
When we left there,
478
00:30:15,141 --> 00:30:18,741
we were under no illusion
how dangerous these bombers were.
479
00:30:20,141 --> 00:30:24,781
We were told they were highly motivated,
determined, and deadly.
480
00:30:25,701 --> 00:30:27,261
[grim music crescendoes]
481
00:30:28,941 --> 00:30:31,061
It was the first full day of the manhunt.
482
00:30:31,141 --> 00:30:35,781
It's hard now to actually convey properly
483
00:30:35,861 --> 00:30:38,541
how much activity is going on,
484
00:30:38,621 --> 00:30:42,741
how much intelligence we're trying
to live-feed into the control room.
485
00:30:42,821 --> 00:30:46,701
We're deploying surveillance teams,
firearms teams, investigators,
486
00:30:46,781 --> 00:30:52,061
all covertly deployed
so not to come to notice of anybody,
487
00:30:52,141 --> 00:30:55,221
because these individuals
most likely would've had some sort of,
488
00:30:55,301 --> 00:30:56,301
um,
489
00:30:56,861 --> 00:30:58,661
homemade explosives with them.
490
00:30:59,461 --> 00:31:04,581
The consequences of not getting
this right were not lost on me.
491
00:31:04,661 --> 00:31:09,341
-[foreboding music playing]
-[timer ticking]
492
00:31:09,421 --> 00:31:11,141
[Aidy] The overarching plan
493
00:31:11,221 --> 00:31:14,741
was that those in the address
would be dealt with on the street,
494
00:31:15,621 --> 00:31:19,861
to negate an incident
similar to Madrid the previous year,
495
00:31:20,381 --> 00:31:23,421
where an entry
was made into a bomb factory…
496
00:31:26,981 --> 00:31:28,981
[foreboding music continues]
497
00:31:35,101 --> 00:31:39,581
…and the location ended up exploding.
498
00:31:41,701 --> 00:31:44,421
I was sat on the outer cordon.
499
00:31:44,501 --> 00:31:47,061
The observation van's on an inner cordon,
500
00:31:47,901 --> 00:31:53,341
using a handheld camcorder to capture
video of persons leaving the address.
501
00:31:53,981 --> 00:31:55,781
We hear on the radio…
502
00:31:56,501 --> 00:32:03,501
[operative speaking on radio]
503
00:32:05,061 --> 00:32:09,901
But, at that time,
the operative deployed in that vehicle
504
00:32:10,501 --> 00:32:13,661
had some difficulties
in maintaining surveillance.
505
00:32:14,861 --> 00:32:15,901
[beep]
506
00:32:16,461 --> 00:32:17,661
He was having a pee.
507
00:32:18,301 --> 00:32:20,301
[foreboding music continues]
508
00:32:23,301 --> 00:32:27,981
[C5] For whatever reason, there had been
some sort of cock-up in the OP van.
509
00:32:28,061 --> 00:32:32,061
Normally, they would've had
a good opportunity to take a photograph,
510
00:32:32,141 --> 00:32:36,141
which they then could've probably compared
to a photograph of the subject
511
00:32:36,221 --> 00:32:39,301
and could've said there and then
if it was or wasn't him.
512
00:32:39,941 --> 00:32:41,941
[operative speaking on radio]
513
00:32:43,061 --> 00:32:45,061
[foreboding music continues]
514
00:32:46,101 --> 00:32:47,981
[C5] We were waiting at barracks,
515
00:32:48,061 --> 00:32:51,021
and we're hearing this
over the radio channel in the car.
516
00:32:51,541 --> 00:32:53,861
We were told we would only be used
517
00:32:53,941 --> 00:32:56,981
if one of the subjects
was identified as one of the bombers.
518
00:33:01,021 --> 00:33:04,581
There was a designated senior officer,
who was Cressida Dick.
519
00:33:06,341 --> 00:33:09,741
And the silver commander was Jon Boutcher.
520
00:33:14,381 --> 00:33:15,261
I then heard…
521
00:33:16,621 --> 00:33:19,181
[operative speaking on radio]
522
00:33:26,421 --> 00:33:28,181
[C5] Can someone do a walk-by?
523
00:33:29,501 --> 00:33:30,861
I jumped out of the vehicle
524
00:33:30,941 --> 00:33:33,221
and walked on the opposite side
of the footpath.
525
00:33:33,301 --> 00:33:35,901
-[foreboding music continues]
-[dog barking]
526
00:33:35,981 --> 00:33:39,621
[Aidy] I looked at him,
and I made the assessment that,
527
00:33:39,701 --> 00:33:42,181
based on the image
that I'd been shown in the briefing,
528
00:33:42,261 --> 00:33:44,421
which is our one and only image,
529
00:33:45,621 --> 00:33:48,061
I couldn't say yes or no at that stage.
530
00:33:48,141 --> 00:33:50,661
[dramatic music playing]
531
00:33:51,261 --> 00:33:53,541
[Aidy] It was all a bit rushed.
We were catching up.
532
00:33:54,701 --> 00:33:58,381
And at that time, there was no direction
from the control room.
533
00:33:59,341 --> 00:34:01,181
[indistinct radio chatter]
534
00:34:02,981 --> 00:34:04,981
[dramatic music continues]
535
00:34:09,301 --> 00:34:11,301
[bus engine rumbling]
536
00:34:15,581 --> 00:34:18,021
[operative speaking on radio]
537
00:34:19,661 --> 00:34:23,181
[timer ticking]
538
00:34:23,261 --> 00:34:26,701
When he got on a bus, it's like,
"Oh my God, it's a whole new ballgame."
539
00:34:26,781 --> 00:34:28,981
"Why-- why did we let him get on a bus?"
540
00:34:29,061 --> 00:34:30,941
[menacing music plays]
541
00:34:31,981 --> 00:34:36,781
My initial thoughts were,
"Damn, that's now gonna be tricky."
542
00:34:36,861 --> 00:34:39,181
"We need to get someone on the bus
as soon as possible."
543
00:34:39,901 --> 00:34:42,781
[operative speaking on radio]
544
00:34:43,501 --> 00:34:45,701
[Aidy] One of my colleagues
boards the bus.
545
00:34:47,421 --> 00:34:51,741
So that operator has to be very careful
about how he conducts himself.
546
00:34:53,181 --> 00:34:54,701
There's a huge risk here.
547
00:34:54,781 --> 00:34:57,181
The person is not carrying a rucksack,
548
00:34:57,261 --> 00:35:02,021
but that didn't necessarily mean
we viewed him as less of a threat.
549
00:35:02,101 --> 00:35:04,101
[menacing music continues]
550
00:35:05,941 --> 00:35:10,701
My colleague on the bus made reference
to the subject having distinctive eyes,
551
00:35:10,781 --> 00:35:12,621
almost Mongolian-looking.
552
00:35:19,781 --> 00:35:21,741
[C5] They said to us to…
553
00:35:21,821 --> 00:35:23,541
[operative speaking on radio]
554
00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,981
They wanted us nearby in case they decided
that we needed to intervene.
555
00:35:27,061 --> 00:35:29,061
[dramatic music playing]
556
00:35:33,341 --> 00:35:37,341
It was quite tense in that car.
We had several radio systems.
557
00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:39,341
[indistinct radio chatter]
558
00:35:40,861 --> 00:35:43,061
[C5] So it was quite chaotic.
559
00:35:49,421 --> 00:35:52,021
I was working with C2,
the operator in the car,
560
00:35:52,101 --> 00:35:53,341
working all the radios.
561
00:35:53,421 --> 00:35:55,461
He was talking to control.
562
00:35:55,541 --> 00:35:58,181
He probably had 101 things
going on in his head.
563
00:35:58,261 --> 00:36:00,741
-[dramatic music continues]
-[indistinct radio chatter]
564
00:36:05,621 --> 00:36:07,781
I have never spoken about this publicly.
565
00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:11,141
This'll probably be the only time
that I'll talk about it,
566
00:36:11,221 --> 00:36:13,341
rather than take it to my grave.
567
00:36:13,421 --> 00:36:15,101
[dramatic music continues]
568
00:36:16,821 --> 00:36:21,741
The difficulty with this operation was
we had to answer to someone senior.
569
00:36:22,701 --> 00:36:27,061
The control room were in touch,
but there were very limited instructions.
570
00:36:32,941 --> 00:36:37,621
[timer ticking]
571
00:36:39,741 --> 00:36:42,301
[operative speaking on radio]
572
00:36:43,621 --> 00:36:48,381
The male begins to make his way
towards Brixton Underground station.
573
00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:51,181
When he arrives, he pauses,
574
00:36:52,461 --> 00:36:57,141
and then looks to make his way back
towards the same bus
575
00:36:57,221 --> 00:36:59,461
that he had just stepped out of.
576
00:36:59,541 --> 00:37:02,341
And of course,
this is being spoken about on the radio.
577
00:37:02,421 --> 00:37:04,581
[operative speaking on radio]
578
00:37:04,661 --> 00:37:06,901
And it sounds like odd behavior.
579
00:37:06,981 --> 00:37:08,541
[mysterious music plays]
580
00:37:13,861 --> 00:37:15,301
[C5] One of the things it could mean
581
00:37:15,381 --> 00:37:18,261
is that he was practicing
a thing called anti-surveillance,
582
00:37:18,341 --> 00:37:21,621
where you draw people
who are following you off of a vehicle,
583
00:37:21,701 --> 00:37:24,461
and then you go back,
and you see who follows you back on.
584
00:37:25,061 --> 00:37:29,701
[operative speaking on radio]
585
00:37:34,941 --> 00:37:38,141
[C5] It was looking more and more likely
that this was the subject.
586
00:37:38,661 --> 00:37:39,701
[dramatic music plays]
587
00:37:41,381 --> 00:37:44,341
[C5] Over the radio,
he was described as edgy.
588
00:37:45,341 --> 00:37:50,261
In my head, I kept thinking,
"It's escalating."
589
00:37:50,781 --> 00:37:55,581
At some point, I felt that it was going
down the road that we'd have to intervene.
590
00:37:55,661 --> 00:37:58,061
[dramatic music continues]
591
00:37:58,141 --> 00:38:03,141
[operative speaking on radio]
592
00:38:04,461 --> 00:38:10,781
[Aidy] The team leader in the car
expresses his personal opinion that,
593
00:38:10,861 --> 00:38:13,781
you know,
for what it's worth, he thinks it's him.
594
00:38:13,861 --> 00:38:16,741
But at no point
throughout the surveillance
595
00:38:16,821 --> 00:38:21,701
was a positive or negative confirmation
made around the identification.
596
00:38:23,501 --> 00:38:28,261
All of us heard at some point
during that follow, "Yes, it's him."
597
00:38:28,341 --> 00:38:31,261
[intriguing music playing]
598
00:38:34,421 --> 00:38:36,261
[siren blaring]
599
00:38:36,341 --> 00:38:38,981
[timer ticking]
600
00:38:40,781 --> 00:38:42,621
[Aidy] The subject crosses the road
601
00:38:43,821 --> 00:38:46,901
and crosses
into Stockwell Underground Station,
602
00:38:46,981 --> 00:38:48,701
which happens to be the point of entry
603
00:38:48,781 --> 00:38:52,621
for the failed bombers
from the day before.
604
00:38:55,461 --> 00:38:57,101
[dramatic music plays]
605
00:39:02,581 --> 00:39:05,141
We're now in a… a danger zone
606
00:39:06,021 --> 00:39:09,781
because we know that when we go down
onto the platforms and the trains,
607
00:39:09,861 --> 00:39:11,621
the radios will not work.
608
00:39:12,701 --> 00:39:13,781
My colleague said…
609
00:39:14,501 --> 00:39:15,741
[operative speaking on radio]
610
00:39:15,821 --> 00:39:19,381
Hoping that he would then get
authority to arrest him.
611
00:39:19,461 --> 00:39:21,501
[dramatic music continues]
612
00:39:21,581 --> 00:39:25,941
I see him pick up a copy of the Metro
and then move towards the barriers.
613
00:39:26,701 --> 00:39:27,781
[turnstile beeps]
614
00:39:29,341 --> 00:39:31,301
[Aidy] And my colleague and I follow.
615
00:39:35,781 --> 00:39:37,421
[indistinct radio chatter]
616
00:39:37,501 --> 00:39:41,581
[Cressida] He must be challenged
before getting down the tube. Stop him!
617
00:39:45,741 --> 00:39:49,421
[Aidy] Commander Dick gave the order
for us to carry out the stop.
618
00:39:53,181 --> 00:39:54,621
[dramatic music continues]
619
00:40:02,341 --> 00:40:04,141
[Aidy] But that was
unbeknown to us because
620
00:40:04,221 --> 00:40:07,661
we'd already moved inside the station,
and our radios didn't work in there.
621
00:40:12,021 --> 00:40:15,301
The next thing I heard
from our control vehicle was,
622
00:40:15,381 --> 00:40:18,381
"He must not be allowed
to get on that train."
623
00:40:18,461 --> 00:40:20,141
"Do not let him get on that train."
624
00:40:20,221 --> 00:40:22,541
[operative] They want us to stop
the subject getting on.
625
00:40:22,621 --> 00:40:24,941
State red, 19. SO19 doing stop.
626
00:40:25,021 --> 00:40:26,341
[radio beeps]
627
00:40:26,421 --> 00:40:28,861
My thoughts were,
"He's identified. That's him."
628
00:40:28,941 --> 00:40:30,741
[dramatic music continues]
629
00:40:30,821 --> 00:40:32,501
[C2] I knew he was at least a minute,
630
00:40:32,581 --> 00:40:35,021
maybe two minutes,
ahead of me, so I had to run.
631
00:40:35,541 --> 00:40:40,141
I'm thinking, "I cannot believe
we've allowed this situation to develop."
632
00:40:40,221 --> 00:40:44,341
We've allowed someone we believe
is a suicide bomber into the tube network,
633
00:40:44,421 --> 00:40:47,981
could have a device on him,
and he could initiate that device.
634
00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:53,061
It was a nightmare scenario
because we all knew we'd lose radio comms,
635
00:40:53,141 --> 00:40:54,661
and we'd be on our own.
636
00:40:55,781 --> 00:40:57,581
[dramatic music builds]
637
00:40:57,661 --> 00:41:00,461
My only way in
was to leap over the barrier.
638
00:41:04,101 --> 00:41:06,741
I remember
chasing down the escalator steps.
639
00:41:09,301 --> 00:41:12,301
I drew my weapon,
and I put it behind my back.
640
00:41:15,901 --> 00:41:18,381
[C5] C2 and C12 were in front of me.
641
00:41:19,181 --> 00:41:23,341
We weren't shouting "armed police."
We were covert until compromised.
642
00:41:25,821 --> 00:41:30,181
[C2] The surveillance officer indicated
who the subject was.
643
00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:36,981
A lot of our training had been
around the danger from hands.
644
00:41:37,061 --> 00:41:40,461
Being able to connect a battery
or detonate a device.
645
00:41:40,541 --> 00:41:41,541
Secure the hands.
646
00:41:41,621 --> 00:41:45,421
So my colleague moved towards him
and wrapped his arms around him.
647
00:41:45,501 --> 00:41:48,301
The surveillance officer
pinned his arms to the side.
648
00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:50,421
[indistinct shouting]
649
00:41:50,501 --> 00:41:53,021
I was convinced that we were about to die.
650
00:41:53,101 --> 00:41:56,821
I had a responsibility,
and I feared the very worst.
651
00:41:58,621 --> 00:42:00,901
I fired, and so did my colleague,
Charlie 12.
652
00:42:00,981 --> 00:42:02,581
[dramatic music crescendoes]
653
00:42:02,661 --> 00:42:04,061
[music stops abruptly]
654
00:42:04,141 --> 00:42:07,301
[C2] And I kept firing
until I was absolutely certain
655
00:42:07,381 --> 00:42:08,941
there was no further threat.
656
00:42:09,021 --> 00:42:10,821
[silence]
657
00:42:11,661 --> 00:42:17,461
[timer ticking]
658
00:42:22,821 --> 00:42:25,941
Good morning.
Welcome to a BBC News special.
659
00:42:26,021 --> 00:42:31,141
There is now a major security alert
at Stockwell tube station in South London.
660
00:42:31,221 --> 00:42:33,221
[unsettling music playing]
661
00:42:37,341 --> 00:42:38,821
[music darkens somberly]
662
00:43:08,821 --> 00:43:11,141
If anything, time had slowed down.
663
00:43:12,101 --> 00:43:14,181
I could not believe
what had just happened.
664
00:43:14,701 --> 00:43:16,701
[somber music continues]
665
00:43:23,701 --> 00:43:25,581
To be frank, I was numb with shock,
666
00:43:25,661 --> 00:43:28,661
because of the horror
of what had occurred.
667
00:43:29,301 --> 00:43:32,821
But there was a relief
that we were still standing,
668
00:43:32,901 --> 00:43:34,941
and we had stopped an attack.
669
00:43:44,581 --> 00:43:45,981
[female anchor] Stay with us.
670
00:43:46,061 --> 00:43:48,221
Uh, we're gonna go over
to Stockwell now.
671
00:43:49,101 --> 00:43:51,341
[male anchor] An eyewitness
who saw the incident
672
00:43:51,421 --> 00:43:53,461
at Stockwell, he's on the line.
673
00:43:55,701 --> 00:43:58,981
[witness] One of the police officers
was holding a black automatic pistol
674
00:43:59,061 --> 00:44:00,301
in his left hand.
675
00:44:00,381 --> 00:44:04,381
They held it down to him
and unloaded five shots into him.
676
00:44:05,181 --> 00:44:06,301
I saw it.
677
00:44:08,221 --> 00:44:11,861
-[male anchor] Was he dead or alive?
-[witness] He's dead. Five shots.
678
00:44:12,461 --> 00:44:13,861
Seriously, he's dead.
679
00:44:14,501 --> 00:44:16,461
[solemn music plays]
680
00:44:20,181 --> 00:44:23,381
[C5] The first thought
when the gunshot rang out was,
681
00:44:24,701 --> 00:44:25,701
"We're all gonna blow up."
682
00:44:25,781 --> 00:44:28,781
I thought, "This is it, it's an explosion.
We're gonna die."
683
00:44:28,861 --> 00:44:29,861
And then…
684
00:44:31,341 --> 00:44:34,181
a fraction of a second later,
I thought, "We're still here?"
685
00:44:34,261 --> 00:44:36,261
[solemn music continues]
686
00:44:41,341 --> 00:44:42,941
It was a strange feeling.
687
00:44:43,021 --> 00:44:46,421
I felt kind of euphoric. It was a weird,
688
00:44:46,501 --> 00:44:50,901
you know, this adrenaline feeling of,
like, "We've survived."
689
00:44:53,341 --> 00:44:57,141
But there was no,
sort of, celebration or anything.
690
00:44:57,221 --> 00:45:02,061
It was just… we knew we'd taken a life.
It was-- It's a horrible thing, you know.
691
00:45:02,141 --> 00:45:04,741
[solemn music continues]
692
00:45:10,901 --> 00:45:15,061
[C5] I felt for both the officers,
C2 and C12,
693
00:45:15,141 --> 00:45:16,781
you know, what you've had to do.
694
00:45:20,301 --> 00:45:23,421
[C2] I could not wait to get off the tube,
away from that scene.
695
00:45:23,501 --> 00:45:25,501
[melancholy music plays]
696
00:45:28,341 --> 00:45:31,821
I remember leaving
in an unmarked police car.
697
00:45:34,501 --> 00:45:37,061
[anchor] You can see
on your screen there, a live shot
698
00:45:37,141 --> 00:45:41,621
of the situation
outside Stockwell tube station.
699
00:45:41,701 --> 00:45:45,101
[male reporter] We know that police
were operating a shoot-to-kill policy,
700
00:45:45,181 --> 00:45:49,541
and I think in most cases
that would be a shot to the head.
701
00:45:49,621 --> 00:45:51,621
[melancholy music continues]
702
00:45:52,741 --> 00:45:56,061
There was just lots of shooting,
and then a man…
703
00:45:58,541 --> 00:46:03,661
A man near the door in our carriage
was just pushed to the ground and shot.
704
00:46:03,741 --> 00:46:07,861
This is, at the end of the day,
or it looks like, hot pursuit,
705
00:46:07,941 --> 00:46:09,501
and that is a plus for us.
706
00:46:09,581 --> 00:46:12,941
These are our security forces
hunting these people down.
707
00:46:13,021 --> 00:46:14,501
That is a good thing.
708
00:46:14,581 --> 00:46:18,501
And appear to have pinpointed them,
and appear to be acting decisively.
709
00:46:21,381 --> 00:46:23,541
Yeah, I remember it so clearly.
710
00:46:23,621 --> 00:46:25,981
I was in a café.
711
00:46:26,061 --> 00:46:29,461
On the radio, it said that a man
had been shot at Stockwell,
712
00:46:29,541 --> 00:46:31,501
in connection with the bombings.
713
00:46:34,381 --> 00:46:35,821
I wasn't shocked.
714
00:46:38,341 --> 00:46:40,821
[female reporter]
As news of the shooting became public,
715
00:46:40,901 --> 00:46:42,901
Muslim leaders said they were concerned
716
00:46:42,981 --> 00:46:45,941
that there's a shoot-to-kill policy
in operation.
717
00:46:46,021 --> 00:46:49,421
They could've shot him in the leg,
got him to a side and questioned him.
718
00:46:49,501 --> 00:46:52,261
But they've shot him dead,
what are they gonna find from him?
719
00:46:52,341 --> 00:46:54,181
[Yasmin] This is South London.
720
00:46:54,261 --> 00:46:58,981
Within the community, there was a sense
of knowing that the police can overstep,
721
00:46:59,061 --> 00:47:01,341
and target you because of race.
722
00:47:01,421 --> 00:47:05,781
There was a fear that,
you know, this could escalate.
723
00:47:07,501 --> 00:47:09,341
We've had a number of phone calls today
724
00:47:09,421 --> 00:47:13,461
from just ordinary British Muslims
who are feeling very jumpy, very nervous.
725
00:47:13,541 --> 00:47:15,621
[singing prayers]
726
00:47:15,701 --> 00:47:17,061
[man 1] There may be good reasons
727
00:47:17,141 --> 00:47:20,541
why the police felt it necessary
to shoot this man dead,
728
00:47:21,061 --> 00:47:24,101
but they do need to make clear
what those reasons were.
729
00:47:25,781 --> 00:47:27,861
[melancholy music crescendoes]
730
00:47:27,941 --> 00:47:29,941
[music fades to silence]
731
00:47:35,621 --> 00:47:37,781
[C5] The explosives officer arrived.
732
00:47:37,861 --> 00:47:41,741
He went on the carriage,
checked him over quickly,
733
00:47:41,821 --> 00:47:43,541
and said, "There's no devices."
734
00:47:43,621 --> 00:47:47,581
We laid him on the ground
so that I could check for vital signs.
735
00:47:47,661 --> 00:47:50,501
[solemn music plays]
736
00:47:50,581 --> 00:47:54,421
He'd found a wallet,
and it had some ID in it.
737
00:47:55,381 --> 00:47:57,381
[solemn music continues]
738
00:48:00,341 --> 00:48:02,901
[man 2] We are looking
for four extremely dangerous men.
739
00:48:02,981 --> 00:48:05,301
It may be that the police
have found one of them.
740
00:48:05,381 --> 00:48:07,381
[solemn music continues]
741
00:48:10,941 --> 00:48:14,901
[C5] The name on the ID
was Jean Charles Menezes.
742
00:48:16,901 --> 00:48:19,181
It wasn't the name of the subject,
743
00:48:19,261 --> 00:48:23,541
so along with the fact
that he didn't have any device on him,
744
00:48:23,621 --> 00:48:26,501
things just didn't seem
to add up to me at that time.
745
00:48:26,581 --> 00:48:30,101
I didn't wanna say--
I didn't say this to anybody because…
746
00:48:31,221 --> 00:48:33,901
I didn't wanna start rumors,
747
00:48:33,981 --> 00:48:36,461
because I wasn't sure,
but in the back of my mind,
748
00:48:36,541 --> 00:48:39,781
I just started to feel
something wasn't right.
749
00:48:39,861 --> 00:48:41,861
[music fades to silence]
750
00:48:52,221 --> 00:48:54,621
[closing theme music playing]
751
00:48:54,621 --> 00:48:59,621
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