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Okay, you want to just lay this down?
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Ready when you are.
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I'm ready.
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Are you recording?
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I am now.
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♪ When I fall in love. ♪
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♪ It will be forever. ♪
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♪ Or I'll never fall in love. ♪
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♪ In a restless world like this is ♪
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♪ Love is ended before it's begun. ♪
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♪ And too many ♪
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♪ moonlight kisses ♪
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♪ seem to cool in the warmth of the sun. ♪
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♪ When I give my heart ♪
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♪ it will be completely ♪
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♪ or I'll never give my heart ♪
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♪ and the momement I can feel that ♪
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♪ you feel that way too ♪
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♪ is when I fall in love with you.
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♪ or I'll never fall in love ♪
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♪ and the moment I can feel that ♪
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♪ you feel that way too ♪
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♪ is when I fall in love with you. ♪
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This just might do nobody any good.
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At the end of this discourse,
a few people may accuse
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this reporter of fouling
his own comfortable nest.
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And you all may be accused of giving hospitality
to heretical and even dangerous thoughts.
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It is my desire, if not my duty,
to try to speak to you with some candor.
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about what is happening in our mass media.
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You should know at the outset that I
appear here voluntarily, by invitation.
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And that these remarks are strictly of a
do-it-yourself nature.
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If what I have to say is responsible, I
alone am responsible for the saying of it.
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I've decided to express my concern on the
manner in which we inform ourselves.
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I am seized by an abiding
fear of what these instruments
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are doing to our society,
our culture, our heritage.
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Our history will be what we make of it.
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And if any historians 50 to 100 years from
now were to look, they would in there find
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evidence of decadence, escapism, and insulation
from the realities of the world in which we live.
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And surely we will pay a price.
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We are currently fat, comfortable,
and complacent.
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We have a built-in allergy to unpleasant
or disturbing information.
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But unless we get up off our fat assets
and recognize that media in the main is
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being used to distract, delude,
amuse, and insulate us, then those who
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finance it, those who profit from it,
those who work at it, and those who
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consume it, may see a totally different
picture too late.
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Good evening.
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Earlier tonight, Adlai E.
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Stevenson urged the United States to take the
initiative in peace talks with the Soviet Union.
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The talks are aimed toward worldwide
disarmament and assurances of
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non-aggression for the Russians as well as
for the free world.
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In a broadcast from his globe-circling
tour, Stevenson warned the Eisenhower
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administration against
shutting the door on conferences
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with the Soviet leaders and
putting too much pressure...
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I'll be right down.
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...on the uncommitted bloc of nations,
not linked...
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Milli, this is the Annie Lee Moss footage
from yesterday.
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Okay, I'll give it to Leo.
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Wait, it's only two cans?
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What? Oh ya, that's all it is, but there's some
notes with it that go for Fred.
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Fred's in with the guys.
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Okay, I'll give the film to Leo.
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You can go ahead and
give the notes to Fred.
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[Speaking over each other]
He's in the writer's room.
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Ya, thank you, Milli/Palmer.
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Hi, Joe.
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Shirley, what's going on in here?
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Hey, Palmer.
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Hello, Palmer.
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Uh, making some copies for the... Nothing.
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Just making sure.
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Two attractive people
alone in a copy room.
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Ho ho ho'K, Palmer.
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I mean, I, ah, certainly won't say anything.
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Well, don't tell Fred.
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He'll fire me.
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Well, I mean, both of us.
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Shirley, it's the nepotism rule.
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The nepotism rule.
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You know, I think Joe would get the ax.
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Oh.
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Well, uh, rules would make to be broken.
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You can afford to say that.
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Oh, please.
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Actually, Shirley, I think he's right.
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What do you say?
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You want to, uh, get a drink tonight?
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Yeah, you're just a couple
of guys trying to help.
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The day I need dating advice
from you two knuckleheads is, uh...
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Ouch.
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Let me see this.
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I don't know.
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It's simply a loyalty oath.
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I mean, there's nothing
in there about...
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To CBS?
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To America.
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- You promised to be a loyal...
- All the reporters have it.
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Who are you promising?
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Fred signed it.
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- CBS, Haley...
- And Murrow.
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Murrow signed it?
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Murrow signed it.
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Are you now, or have you ever been,
a member of these organizations...
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I've been at it for a while now.
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I just thought this was a joke at first.
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...that appeared on the Attorney
General's list of subversive groups?
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It's a lot of pressure.
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I don't know.
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All right.
Let's think about this.
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What is it really saying?
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Is it a civil liberties issue?
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Is it censorship?
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I don't know.
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I mean, is it simply stating to
CBS that I'm not a communist?
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Murrow signed it.
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and Fred.
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Maybe you should talk to Fred.
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Well, I talked to Fred.
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He told me to sign it.
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If you don't sign it,
are you and I a target?
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If I don't sign it, they will fire me.
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Well, at least then we
can tell everyone the truth.
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Okay.
All right.
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Hey, they got the film?
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Uh, yeah.
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It's all queued up and ready to go.
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Oh, uh, Eddie.
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You're right.
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Went through that DC phone book.
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More than one Annie
Lee Moss in there, right?
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Oh, yeah.
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A lot more.
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See, I told you.
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All right.
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Here they are.
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Hey, Joe.
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We got it queued up.
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Okay.
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Hey, Fred.
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Do you want a cigarette?
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No.
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I'll just breathe the air.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Sounds good.
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All right.
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Ready?
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Yeah.
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All right.
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All right.
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On this reel, this woman, Annie Lee Moss.
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This is the person McCarthy has spent two
weeks claiming was a spy in the Pentagon.
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Yeah, well, she was a clerk in the
communications office.
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So, after all this buildup, she finally
comes in.
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McCarthy only asks her four questions,
and he gets up and he leaves.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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He just left?
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Well, he realized he had nothing.
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So, uh, Leo, hit it.
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I'm sorry.
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And, uh, you say you personally did not
know Robert Hall.
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No, sir.
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That you were not there when he came to
the house.
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That's right.
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Uh, do you know what business
Robert Hall had with your
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husband besides merely
delivering the copy of the Daily Work?
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No, sir.
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I do know.
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Uh, I'm afraid I'm going to have to excuse
myself.
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I've got, uh, a rather important
appointment tonight, which I've got to
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work on right now, and I wonder if some of
the others ...
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait.
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All right, look, and Charlie gets a shot
of the empty chair.
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Chairman, uh... Right there.
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I have no further questions of this
witness at this time.
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To say that we have the testimony of Mrs.
Mosler, the undercover agent of the FBI,
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stating that Annie Lee Mosler was a
member, a douche-painter of the Communist
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Party, uh, the Northeast Public
Communist Party... Leo, that's enough.
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Turn it off.
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Oh, that Roy Cohn's a real charmer.
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Ed, Ed, did you see that?
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He just walked out.
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She is... not a spy.
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You don't know that.
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Oh, I'll take the odds on it, Fred.
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What do you think, Ed?
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You haven't made your case.
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He's lying.
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What's your proof?
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I think it's pretty obvious.
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Is that our standard now, what you think?
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McCarthy told the whole country he found
the spy in the Pentagon, and it was her.
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Meaning what?
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I mean, Ed, does she
look like a spy to you?
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What does a spy look like, Palmer?
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He got up and left his own hearing.
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If she's not a spy and you have a story,
until then you haven't made your case.
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File it.
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Okay, fellas, let's save it with
the rest of the Senate footage.
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Thanks.
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Fred, uh, did you guys look at the
Secretary Stevens stuff yet?
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No, not yet, John.
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Not yet.
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Just watch it to the end.
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Well, John.
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All the way to the end.
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Thank you, John.
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That's what it's worth.
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Thanks.
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Thanks.
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That's pretty good stuff, Ed.
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We spent any time in Detroit, Fred.
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We got 20 or so of these pieces filed.
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There's a story here in
the Detroit Free Press.
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Dexter, Michigan.
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Kid named Milo Radulovic.
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Italian?
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Irish.
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Air Force kicked him out because his dad
read some Serbian newspaper.
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They called Milo a security risk.
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Is his dad a communist?
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I don't know.
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Who brought the charges?
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The Air Force.
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The charges were in a sealed envelope.
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Nobody saw them.
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Not even at the hearing?
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He was declared guilty without a trial and
told that if he wants to keep his job,
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he has to denounce his father and his
sister, so he told them to take a hike.
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His sister, huh?
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Let's send Joe and Charlie down there,
see if he's any good on camera.
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Is he being brought before the committee?
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No.
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So, it's not McCarthy, isn't it?
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Milo Radulovic.
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Lieutenant Radulovic.
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Milo.
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Let me ask you this.
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What happens now to your
two children, that is, your
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five-year-old and your
five-month-old in terms of you?
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Yes. If I am being judged on my relatives, are
my children going to be asked to denounce me?
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Are they going to be judged
on what their father was labeled?
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Are they going to have to explain to their friends,
etc., why their father was a security risk?
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I see absolutely that
this is a chain reaction.
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If the thing is let's stand, as the first
recommendation was sent out by the board,
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I see a chain reaction that has no end to
anybody, for anybody.
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Well, that's new.
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And I don't think you can
call this a neutral piece.
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Well, I think each other's side
has been represented pretty well.
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Hey, so you just want to
forego the standards you've
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stuck to for over 15 years,
both sides, no commentary.
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We all editorialize.
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It's just a one thing.
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Hey, hey, hey. Blah, blah, blah.
Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah.
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I'm just making sure we identify what it
is you're both doing.
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I can't find any justification for this.
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I can't accept that on every story there
are two equal and logical sides.
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You want to call that editorializing?
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We'll give them equal time.
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It is editorializing.
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Period.
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Look, you understand the
position you're putting us in.
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We're all in it together.
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- If the Senate or the Air Force ask for it...
- Fred, do me this favor.
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Avoid any speeches about how we're all in
a big boat together.
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Please don't insult me.
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Look, I have to go back to Alcoa,
who sponsors your show and also has
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military contracts, and I got to
tell them they might get caught
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in a tough bind because you
had a beef with Joe McCartney.
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I'm not going at Joe McCartney.
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Well, you're starting a goddamn fire.
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I know what this is, Ed.
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You guaranteed me.
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This goes back to here and now.
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You guaranteed that corporate would have
no influence over news content.
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What I am saying is, please don't try to
con me into thinking this will be good for me.
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Just do me that courtesy.
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I'm sorry, Mr. Paley, Mr. Murrow.
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Fred, there's a Colonel
Anderson here to see you.
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- Okay, Shirley, where is he?
- He's in your office.
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Sorry, gentlemen.
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Maybe this guy loves the transcript and is
here to congratulate me.
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Go after Joe Kennedy.
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We'll pay for it.
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I got a great story about Hoover.
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Do you know how many person-to-persons
you'll have to do to make this up?
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Oh, Judy and her daughter Liza next week.
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No chance.
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You will be interviewing Lassie and then
Mr. Ed back-to-back.
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We probably won't either.
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Nobody will stop you.
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How much are the ads?
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3,000.
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I'll split it with Fred.
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He just won't have Christmas presents for
his kid this year.
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He's a Jew.
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Well...
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Don't tell Fred he loves Christmas.
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Colonel.
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Mr. Friendly.
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Please.
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I trust you've had a chance
to review the transcript?
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We have.
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But we've not been
allowed to see the footage.
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We're still shooting it.
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Charlie Mack is on a plane from Dexter
with the last of the interviews.
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We'll be going right down to the wire.
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Your show airs tomorrow.
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How can we possibly comment
on what we're being accused of?
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You haven't given
us the foot... Colonel.
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With all due respect, you have been invited to
comment on this piece not to approve this piece.
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We're going with the
story that says that the U.S.
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Air Force tried Milo Radulovich without
one shred of evidence and found him guilty
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of being a security risk
without the constitutional right...
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And you have also not seen
the evidence claim he's not.
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Wouldn't you guess that the people that
have seen the contents of that envelope
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might know a little more about what
makes a person...
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- ...a danger to tihs country?
- Who are these people?
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Are they elected?
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Should it just be you that decides?
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Appointed?
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Do they have an axe to grind?
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Is it you, sir?
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Mr. Friendly... Do you even know
the contents of that sealed envelope?
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We have been a friend and ally
of Mr. Murrow and CBS News.
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The story you intend
to air is without merit.
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Now, before you take steps that cannot be
undone, I urge you to reconsider your stand.
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These are very dangerous waters
you are attempting to navigate.
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Two minutes to air.
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Damn it, Milli, unload
that thing before I crack.
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A couple more seconds.
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Right.
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Okay, is Don ready for this?
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I don't know.
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Tell him I front-loaded the opening with
about five seconds extra.
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Front-loaded five seconds.
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Thank you, Milli.
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Oh, Milli, tell Joe he's going
to have to do the voiceover.
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Joe's on set.
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You tell him.
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We need a live mic on the floor.
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I'll get the mic set.
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Hi, Don.
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It's front-loaded.
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How much?
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By about five seconds.
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I said that's too much!
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Okay, which piece is Joe going to do live?
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His questions.
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Why don't we try to sync it up with the
whole show on air?
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Yeah, Joe can do it live.
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I hate this.
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You love it.
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Fred?
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Fred, did you time Ed's intro?
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I think we're going to be long.
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Long is good, Don.
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Remember, no commercial break.
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Great.
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Great.
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I got to add two minutes.
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Don, they're doing a commercial in the
booth.
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What commercial?
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We didn't have any commercial.
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Okay, now, Eddie, set up a mic.
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I got it, Don.
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I got it.
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Idiot out of the booth.
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Natalie.
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Natalie.
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Joe, it's too loud in here.
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One minute.
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Three.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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We got the film.
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Will it be ready?
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Yep.
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Funny thing, Freddy.
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Every time you light a cigarette
for me, I know you're lying.
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We'll have it.
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We'll have it.
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What did the Colonel tell you yesterday?
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He wasn't too pleased.
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He wasn't too pleased.
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You're going to get audited this year.
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Not me.
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You.
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I told him I didn't want to do the piece.
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You always were yellow.
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Better than red.
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20 seconds.
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You know, it occurs to me we might not get
away with this one.
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10 seconds.
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In 5, 4, 3, 2....
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Stand by now for See It
Now with Edward R. Murrow.
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Alcoa, Aluminum Company of America,
in cooperation with CBS Television,
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presents the distinguished reporter and
news analyst Edward R. Murrow
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in See It Now, edited and produced
by Mr. Murrow and Fred W. Friendly.
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A weekly presentation of Aluminum Company of
America, the nation's leading producer of aluminum.
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Now speaking to you from the control room of
Studio 41 is the editor of See It Now, Edward R. Murrow
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Good evening.
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A few weeks ago there appeared a few
obscure notices in the newspapers about a
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Lieutenant Milo Radulovich, a lieutenant
in the Air Force Reserves, and also
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something about Air
Force Regulation 35-62.
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That is a regulation which states that a
person may be regarded as a security risk
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if he has close and continuing
association with communists,
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or people believed to have
communist sympathies.
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The lieutenant was asked to resign in
August.
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He declined.
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A board was called and his case was heard.
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At the end it was recommended that he be
severed from the Air Force, although it
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was also stated that there was no question
whatsoever as to the lieutenant's loyalty.
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We propose to examine insofar as we can
the case of Milo Radulovich.
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Our reporter, Joe Worspa.
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Cameraman, Charlie Mack.
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This is the town of Dexter, Michigan.
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Population, 1,500.
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This is the story of Milo Radulovich.
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No special hero, no martyr.
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He came to Dexter one year
ago after ten years in the Air Force.
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The Air Force does not
question my loyalty in the least.
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They have reiterated
that on several occasions.
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They have presented me with
allegations against my sister.
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My sister and father, that they have,
to the effect that my sister and dad have
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taken, have read what are now
called subversive newspapers,
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and that my sister and father's
activities are questionable.
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That's the specific charge or allegation,
I prefer to call it, against them.
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Lieutenant Radulovich was
defended by attorney Charles C.
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Lockwood, and this is the report on the
hearing.
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The Air Force did not
produce a single witness.
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We were not told who the accusers were.
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We had no right to confront them or to
cross-examine them.
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But at the conclusion of the trial,
although we had met the allegations,
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the Air Force made findings at the conclusion of
the hearing that every single allegation was true.
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This is the sister, Margaret Radulovich
Fishman.
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She neither defends nor explains her
political activities.
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I feel that my activities, be they what
they may or my political beliefs,
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are my own private affair.
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And I feel that the charges leveled
against me, and by reason of which they
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are trying to purge him from the army, are just,
you know, seem to me to be a fantastic trend.
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in this country.
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Milo, I guess a lot of people must have
asked you from time to time, wouldn't it
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have been a lot easier
for you if you would have,
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well, just kept sort of
quiet about the whole thing?
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Maybe resigned and nobody
would have known anything
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about it, and all this trouble
wouldn't have come to you?
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Yes, that's right.
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I could have signed a
resignation form, which was titled,
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a resignation in lieu of
elimination from the service.
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And this would have given
me an honorable discharge.
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However, the honorable discharge would
have stipulated that I had, you know,
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been discharged because the Air Force
could not trust me.
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In other words, because I had been
discharged as a security risk.
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And what happens to your two children?
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That is, your five-year-old and your
five-month-old in terms of you?
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Yes, if I am being judged
on my relatives, if are my
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children going to be asked
to, you know, to denounce me?
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Are they going to be judged
on what their father was labeled?
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Are they going to have to explain to their
friends, etc., why their father is a security risk?
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I see absolutely that this is a chain
reaction.
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If the thing is let's stand as the first
recommendation was sent out by the board,
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I see a chain reaction.
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Five, four, three, two ...
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Perhaps you'll permit me to
read a few sentences just at the
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end because I'd like to say
rather precisely what we mean.
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We have told the Air Force that we will
provide facilities for any corrections or
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criticisms it should like to make in the
case of Milo Radulovich.
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We are unable to judge the charges against
the lieutenant's father or sister because
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neither we, nor you, nor
they, nor the lawyers know
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precisely what was contained
in that Manila envelope.
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Was it hearsay, rumor, gossip,
slander, or was it hard, ascertainable
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fact that can be backed by credible
witnesses?
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We do not know.
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We believe the son shall not bear the
iniquity of the father even if that
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iniquity be proved, and
in this case it was not.
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But we also believe that this case
illustrates the urgent need for the armed
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forces to communicate more fully than they
have so far done the regulations and
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procedures to be followed
in attempting to protect
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national security and
the rights of the individual.
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In any case, whatever happens in this
whole area of the relationship between the
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individual and the state,
we will do it ourselves.
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It cannot be blamed on Malenkov,
or Mao Zedong, or even our allies.
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And it seems to us, that is
Fred Friendly and myself, that
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this is a subject that should
be argued about endlessly.
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Good night, and good luck.
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Friday's Edward R. Murrow, person to
person, on the CBS Television Network.
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And we're out.
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Are we in for it, Freddie?
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I think we're fine.
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Oh, I like the sound of this.
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What's this tune?
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Ah, all right.
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I sure hope I remember these words.
It's been a while.
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Right here?
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♪ I've got... ♪
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♪ my eyes on you. ♪
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♪ So best beware... ♪
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♪ where you roam. ♪
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♪ I... ♪
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♪ know, don't know the words. ♪
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♪ I thought I did. ♪
503
00:26:44,456 --> 00:26:46,396
♪ But... I don't... ♪
504
00:26:46,590 --> 00:26:47,230
Lorraine!
505
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:48,350
Incidentally.
506
00:26:48,655 --> 00:26:50,030
♪ Incidentally, I... ♪
507
00:26:50,270 --> 00:26:51,270
Thank you, Lorraine.
508
00:26:51,472 --> 00:26:55,018
♪ ...set my spies on you. ♪
509
00:26:55,043 --> 00:26:58,215
♪ I'm checking on all you do... ♪
510
00:26:58,239 --> 00:27:02,425
♪ from A to Z. ♪
511
00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:08,516
♪ So, darling, just be wise. ♪
512
00:27:08,596 --> 00:27:15,171
♪ Keep your eyes... on... me. ♪
513
00:27:15,196 --> 00:27:19,221
♪ Keep your eyes... on... ♪
514
00:27:19,246 --> 00:27:22,133
♪ me. ♪
515
00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:24,890
All right, let's take five.
I've got to learn these words.
516
00:27:51,873 --> 00:27:54,120
Well that's all the room
we had on the fence for it.
517
00:27:54,670 --> 00:27:55,800
Lee, how old are you?
518
00:27:56,410 --> 00:27:57,700
I'm 35, Ed.
519
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,533
Well, at 35, looking back at all that's
happened, what comes to your mind first?
520
00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:06,280
Ed, I would say that...
521
00:28:06,990 --> 00:28:08,960
God has been very, very good to us...
522
00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:11,880
in making all of this
happen to our family.
523
00:28:12,860 --> 00:28:14,360
And I suppose that...
524
00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:16,740
nowhere but in the United States...
525
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:18,360
could...
526
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,000
this happen to an ordinary
American family like ours.
527
00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:24,180
I'm very grateful.
528
00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:27,540
Well, surely something must get under your
skin once in a while, doesn't it?
529
00:28:28,180 --> 00:28:29,180
Well...
530
00:28:29,470 --> 00:28:32,780
about the only thing that bothers me is
when people accuse me of...
531
00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:37,140
of having a following
only of nice old ladies.
532
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,300
I have nothing against
the nice old ladies, but...
533
00:28:40,650 --> 00:28:42,500
I like nice young ladies, too.
534
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:46,545
Well, Lee, thanks so much
for letting us come and visit you,
535
00:28:46,546 --> 00:28:49,061
and will you say good night
to the rest of your family for us?
536
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:50,500
I certainly will.
537
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,460
Thanks so much.
538
00:28:51,461 --> 00:28:51,900
Thanks so much.
539
00:28:52,095 --> 00:28:52,920
Good night, Ed.
540
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Good night, Lee.
541
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:57,119
Next week, we'll take you
to Beverly Hills, California,
542
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,260
and the home of Mickey
Rooney and his new bride.
543
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:02,120
Until then, good night and good luck.
544
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:04,300
And we're out.
545
00:29:10,883 --> 00:29:12,023
Good show, Ed.
546
00:29:19,363 --> 00:29:20,363
You saw that?
547
00:29:38,671 --> 00:29:39,671
Mr. Murrow?
548
00:29:41,923 --> 00:29:43,245
Uh, Mr. Murrow.
549
00:29:43,270 --> 00:29:46,010
Uh, Mr. Paley was wondering if you'd meet
him for a drink.
550
00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:47,350
When?
551
00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:48,970
Uh, uh, now.
552
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,310
Um, he's at the Pensacom bar.
553
00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:51,930
What's he doing there?
554
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:53,650
You just call him, Shirley.
555
00:29:53,730 --> 00:29:54,070
Will you please call him?
556
00:29:54,071 --> 00:29:54,970
I'll let him know.
557
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:56,010
Thank you.
558
00:29:58,530 --> 00:29:59,530
Hi, Don.
559
00:29:59,630 --> 00:30:00,630
Hi, Shirley.
560
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,960
You're getting good at this, Ed.
561
00:30:11,180 --> 00:30:12,460
They're gonna think you like it.
562
00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:13,940
Pays the bills.
563
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:15,460
How are you, Don?
564
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,200
It's day to day.
565
00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:21,185
Well, if she saw how good you look right
now, she'd be back.
566
00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:22,730
Tell her that if you see her, will ya?
567
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,663
So I read the O'Brien piece.
568
00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:27,920
Yeah, it's pretty tough.
569
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,520
I'm a pinko.
570
00:30:30,170 --> 00:30:31,420
I slant the news.
571
00:30:31,896 --> 00:30:34,485
Just waiting for him to
say my wife left me, too.
572
00:30:34,510 --> 00:30:36,260
Well, nobody worth their salt reads him.
573
00:30:37,033 --> 00:30:38,033
You read him.
574
00:30:38,410 --> 00:30:39,450
Well, see, I rest my case.
575
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,800
Does Paley read him?
576
00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:46,619
Bill Paley's not gonna do anything,
Don.
577
00:30:47,490 --> 00:30:49,413
Listen, Ed, thanks.
578
00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:52,916
I just came over because I wanted to see
how great the lieutenant piece was.
579
00:30:53,317 --> 00:30:53,637
580
00:30:53,837 --> 00:30:54,837
How's the fallout?
581
00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:56,157
Mostly good.
582
00:30:56,197 --> 00:30:57,197
Surprisingly.
583
00:30:57,226 --> 00:30:58,257
Is this the start?
584
00:30:58,477 --> 00:30:59,632
You taking sides?
585
00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:00,977
Just a little poke with a stick.
586
00:31:01,002 --> 00:31:02,002
See what happens.
587
00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:03,307
Well, let me know if I can help.
588
00:31:03,997 --> 00:31:05,257
But you're a pinko, Don.
589
00:31:05,837 --> 00:31:06,757
I'll see ya, Ed.
590
00:31:06,817 --> 00:31:07,157
Yeah.
591
00:31:07,727 --> 00:31:10,257
May I have your attention, please,
on track one.
592
00:31:10,886 --> 00:31:13,476
The 830 train to New
Haven has been canceled.
593
00:31:13,942 --> 00:31:15,917
We apologize for any inconvenience.
594
00:31:16,637 --> 00:31:17,637
Hey.
595
00:31:18,177 --> 00:31:18,657
Joe.
596
00:31:19,531 --> 00:31:22,657
What's all this Radwich
junk you're putting out?
597
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,517
Oh, Don.
598
00:31:24,518 --> 00:31:27,257
I got nothing to say to you now.
599
00:31:27,383 --> 00:31:29,283
We just gotta get this film off to the
lab.
600
00:31:30,136 --> 00:31:35,430
What would you say if I told you that
Murrow was on the Soviet payroll in 1934?
601
00:31:39,497 --> 00:31:41,263
Uh, give us a sec, will ya, Charlie?
602
00:31:42,327 --> 00:31:42,807
Sure.
603
00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:44,603
I gotta use the head anyway.
604
00:31:47,627 --> 00:31:48,627
Hey, Joe.
605
00:31:49,047 --> 00:31:50,487
Watch yourself with this guy.
606
00:31:57,183 --> 00:32:00,093
Is, uh, McCarthy going to the
607
00:32:00,118 --> 00:32:01,317
Eisenhower dinner?
608
00:32:01,342 --> 00:32:04,597
No idea. I don't keep the
Senator's calendar for him, Joe.
609
00:32:04,957 --> 00:32:05,957
Oh, really?
610
00:32:06,579 --> 00:32:08,019
This is a track change announcement.
611
00:32:08,417 --> 00:32:13,757
The 8:45 Northeast Corridor train to New
York City will be arriving on track two.
612
00:32:17,266 --> 00:32:19,786
What? You don't watch
any spy films, Donald?
613
00:32:21,017 --> 00:32:23,357
You can't just hand
me a classified folder.
614
00:32:23,417 --> 00:32:26,477
You gotta slip it in my
briefcase when I'm not looking.
615
00:32:26,899 --> 00:32:30,137
It's actually perfect. I didn't know
who to give this information to.
616
00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:31,577
Paley or Murrow.
617
00:32:31,822 --> 00:32:34,622
As you can imagine, Fred
and I aren't very friendly.
618
00:32:35,159 --> 00:32:36,159
No pun intended.
619
00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:38,637
No pun elocuted.
620
00:32:40,396 --> 00:32:41,396
Elocuted.
621
00:32:41,616 --> 00:32:43,996
Is that a word or did
you just make that up?
622
00:32:44,983 --> 00:32:47,060
You boys and your words.
623
00:32:47,243 --> 00:32:50,526
Is Ed in New York right
now memorizing a thesaurus?
624
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,217
Joe, what's another word for thesaurus?
625
00:32:54,386 --> 00:32:59,597
Oh, it must be awfully quiet at the
Algonquin now that you're gone.
626
00:32:59,598 --> 00:33:02,137
Except for Harpo talking away.
627
00:33:02,577 --> 00:33:03,577
All right, Donald.
628
00:33:04,237 --> 00:33:05,237
What do you got?
629
00:33:05,536 --> 00:33:09,776
In short, Ed Murrow's been a communist
sympathizer since the 1930s.
630
00:33:10,305 --> 00:33:12,230
Member of the Industrial Workers of the
World.
631
00:33:12,589 --> 00:33:18,089
Sponsor of educational trips to Moscow and
on the Soviet payroll in 1934.
632
00:33:18,817 --> 00:33:19,817
It's all there.
633
00:33:22,457 --> 00:33:23,957
Uh, you, uh...
634
00:33:26,353 --> 00:33:27,913
You wanna know why that's not possible?
635
00:33:28,913 --> 00:33:31,003
Or why you gonna
lose this one, Donald?
636
00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:38,752
Because everybody in the country knows that
if nothing else, Ed Murrow is a loyal American.
637
00:33:38,777 --> 00:33:39,777
He is a patriot.
638
00:33:40,867 --> 00:33:44,577
Did you know that the word gullible isn't
in the dictionary, Joe?
639
00:33:45,037 --> 00:33:45,877
Can I give this to Ed?
640
00:33:46,117 --> 00:33:46,777
I'd like you to.
641
00:33:47,137 --> 00:33:48,137
I have copies.
642
00:33:49,956 --> 00:33:51,637
I think you guys go too far.
643
00:33:51,673 --> 00:33:58,477
Well, if it walks like a duck and talks
like a duck, it's a terrible shame.
644
00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:02,057
Murrow's brother being
a general in the Air Force.
645
00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:04,417
What'd I miss?
646
00:34:06,617 --> 00:34:07,617
Nothing.
647
00:34:08,486 --> 00:34:10,776
Ed, Donald's just leaving. He's...
648
00:34:11,709 --> 00:34:13,863
got a hole to crawl back into.
649
00:34:14,728 --> 00:34:16,636
Give my best to Ed.
650
00:34:25,427 --> 00:34:26,027
Bill.
651
00:34:26,197 --> 00:34:27,197
Hello, Ed.
652
00:34:27,227 --> 00:34:28,227
How's Janet?
653
00:34:28,547 --> 00:34:29,367
How's your boy?
654
00:34:29,527 --> 00:34:30,327
Oh, well.
655
00:34:30,328 --> 00:34:30,947
How's babe?
656
00:34:31,226 --> 00:34:31,706
Fine.
657
00:34:32,267 --> 00:34:33,267
She's fine.
658
00:34:33,757 --> 00:34:35,927
Well, her fundraiser got rained on.
659
00:34:36,067 --> 00:34:37,627
Well, that's why I don't plan anything.
660
00:34:37,747 --> 00:34:38,067
Really?
661
00:34:38,527 --> 00:34:39,527
You wouldn't know it.
662
00:34:40,287 --> 00:34:41,287
Reading fiction?
663
00:34:41,312 --> 00:34:42,466
I hope.
664
00:34:43,307 --> 00:34:44,307
You tell me.
665
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,067
Well, we know how
they're gonna come at us.
666
00:34:46,092 --> 00:34:47,739
That's just the first shot.
667
00:34:48,017 --> 00:34:49,762
Somebody will go down.
668
00:34:49,787 --> 00:34:51,107
Now, have you checked your facts?
669
00:34:51,151 --> 00:34:51,963
Are you on safe ground?
670
00:34:52,887 --> 00:34:53,707
Its time ... show our cards.
671
00:34:53,907 --> 00:34:54,907
They're my cards.
672
00:34:55,610 --> 00:34:59,467
You lose, what happens? Five
guys find themselves out of work.
673
00:35:00,247 --> 00:35:04,947
I am responsible for a hell of a lot more
than five goddamn reporters.
674
00:35:06,907 --> 00:35:07,907
Let it go.
675
00:35:08,646 --> 00:35:10,506
McCarthy will self-destruct.
676
00:35:10,565 --> 00:35:11,088
Cone.
677
00:35:11,113 --> 00:35:11,887
All of them.
678
00:35:11,888 --> 00:35:13,363
It's not like you to run from a fight.
679
00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:14,587
I'm not running
from anything, Ed.
680
00:35:14,588 --> 00:35:14,987
Is that so?
681
00:35:15,007 --> 00:35:16,007
Hey.
682
00:35:16,269 --> 00:35:17,360
I write your check.
683
00:35:17,713 --> 00:35:17,973
Yeah.
684
00:35:18,066 --> 00:35:19,867
I put you in that country house.
685
00:35:19,959 --> 00:35:21,259
I put your son through school.
686
00:35:21,343 --> 00:35:24,647
And you should have told me about this
before it got so far down the road.
687
00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:26,247
Is it an apology that you want?
688
00:35:26,272 --> 00:35:28,116
We don't make the news, Ed.
689
00:35:28,141 --> 00:35:29,420
We report the news.
690
00:35:29,445 --> 00:35:32,603
Ninety-nine percent of the time he is wrong
about the people he labels as being a communist.
691
00:35:32,628 --> 00:35:36,047
If he goes too far, the Senate will
investigate him and we will report on that.
692
00:35:36,048 --> 00:35:38,387
But one hundred percent of the time he is
wrong when he steps on their civil Liberty.
693
00:35:38,388 --> 00:35:39,547
What are you doing, Ed?
694
00:35:39,647 --> 00:35:42,187
You are trying him in the press.
695
00:35:42,286 --> 00:35:42,566
No.
696
00:35:43,016 --> 00:35:44,786
You have decided on this.
697
00:35:45,167 --> 00:35:46,947
And you're presenting it as fact.
698
00:35:46,987 --> 00:35:48,347
So where do you want to take this?
699
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,500
Every one of your boys has to be clean.
700
00:35:56,777 --> 00:35:57,777
You understand?
701
00:35:57,976 --> 00:35:58,716
No ties.
702
00:35:59,453 --> 00:36:05,117
If Aaron's mother went to a group theater
fundraiser in 1932, he is out.
703
00:36:05,142 --> 00:36:06,437
Hewitt, too.
704
00:36:06,462 --> 00:36:08,097
Everyone in that room.
705
00:36:08,157 --> 00:36:08,937
Make no mistake.
706
00:36:09,147 --> 00:36:10,557
I will cut them loose.
707
00:36:11,123 --> 00:36:14,446
A corporate will not interfere with
editorial.
708
00:36:15,073 --> 00:36:21,963
But editorial will not jeopardize the hundreds of
employees of the Columbia Broadcasting System.
709
00:36:22,263 --> 00:36:23,263
Yes?
710
00:36:23,352 --> 00:36:25,797
Mr. Paley, Senator Symington is on the
phone.
711
00:36:27,797 --> 00:36:28,857
And we're not?
712
00:36:28,858 --> 00:36:30,097
We're not advertising it.
713
00:36:32,997 --> 00:36:33,997
Hello, Stu.
714
00:36:34,577 --> 00:36:35,577
Right.
715
00:36:35,864 --> 00:36:38,665
Well, yes, Senator, I do have a question.
716
00:36:38,690 --> 00:36:42,797
The U.S. military is said to have better
nuclear capabilities with much smaller bombs.
717
00:36:43,134 --> 00:36:47,279
But the Soviets have developed
longer-range missiles, which pits the two
718
00:36:47,304 --> 00:36:51,223
powers against each other in a race to
build the first intercontinental rocket
719
00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:53,646
capable of delivering a nuclear explosion.
720
00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,697
The Soviets believe
they have the upper hand.
721
00:36:56,698 --> 00:37:00,257
But military experts here at home are
confident the U.S.
722
00:37:00,258 --> 00:37:04,477
will win the race to complete a full and
functioning missile capable of carrying...
723
00:37:04,478 --> 00:37:04,497
Is this about our sponsors?
724
00:37:04,757 --> 00:37:06,817
Are we afraid of losing our sponsors?
725
00:37:06,937 --> 00:37:08,137
Have we lost a sponsor?
726
00:37:08,217 --> 00:37:08,657
Come on.
727
00:37:08,658 --> 00:37:08,897
I don't understand.
728
00:37:08,997 --> 00:37:10,777
Let me make it easier.
729
00:37:10,937 --> 00:37:13,277
I just need to know for
the good of the peace.
730
00:37:13,783 --> 00:37:20,137
If any of you have any connection at all,
read a communist newsletter, traveled to
731
00:37:20,138 --> 00:37:24,737
St. Petersburg, was your mother dating a
socialist in 1922?
732
00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:25,497
You know what?
733
00:37:25,498 --> 00:37:27,677
Why don't you leave my mother out of this?
734
00:37:27,678 --> 00:37:28,552
I don't care.
735
00:37:28,577 --> 00:37:30,197
I just need to know.
736
00:37:30,443 --> 00:37:33,477
You know, I had a
fling with a fascist once.
737
00:37:33,497 --> 00:37:34,597
That must have been fun.
738
00:37:34,622 --> 00:37:36,112
No, not after the war.
739
00:37:36,137 --> 00:37:37,137
They were a little down.
740
00:37:37,337 --> 00:37:37,877
Knock it off.
741
00:37:37,878 --> 00:37:38,878
Maybe it was you, Eddie.
742
00:37:39,037 --> 00:37:39,597
No, no.
743
00:37:39,717 --> 00:37:40,717
Excuse me.
744
00:37:41,677 --> 00:37:43,457
Ed, I think I should excuse myself.
745
00:37:43,477 --> 00:37:45,117
Yeah, I'm going to have to excuse myself.
746
00:37:45,377 --> 00:37:46,377
Excuse me, fellas.
747
00:37:46,657 --> 00:37:47,397
No, really.
748
00:37:47,597 --> 00:37:47,937
Come on.
749
00:37:47,938 --> 00:37:48,938
Let me get out.
750
00:37:49,037 --> 00:37:49,437
Now.
751
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:50,750
What?
752
00:37:51,799 --> 00:37:52,549
I don't want to hurt us.
753
00:37:52,777 --> 00:37:53,177
Christ.
754
00:37:53,549 --> 00:37:54,629
Okay, that kills us.
755
00:37:54,778 --> 00:37:55,778
Oh.
756
00:37:57,953 --> 00:37:59,203
My ex was...
757
00:38:01,150 --> 00:38:03,153
I wouldn't say she was a communist.
758
00:38:03,217 --> 00:38:06,977
But she certainly attended meetings.
759
00:38:09,057 --> 00:38:10,443
It was before we were married.
760
00:38:11,407 --> 00:38:14,137
And it never came up
until after we were divorced.
761
00:38:15,177 --> 00:38:16,317
It didn't matter then.
762
00:38:16,557 --> 00:38:17,557
We were...
763
00:38:19,019 --> 00:38:20,180
We were all on the same side.
764
00:38:22,293 --> 00:38:24,073
Look, I'm not telling you anything.
765
00:38:24,098 --> 00:38:25,533
You don't know anything you don't
already know, but the thing of it is
766
00:38:25,558 --> 00:38:28,897
somebody will find
out and they'll hurt us with it.
767
00:38:28,917 --> 00:38:29,943
Hurt us?
768
00:38:29,968 --> 00:38:31,038
We can't do the story!
769
00:38:31,457 --> 00:38:32,657
I should have told you sooner.
770
00:38:33,823 --> 00:38:34,489
Sorry, Fred.
771
00:38:36,057 --> 00:38:37,057
Ed.
772
00:38:41,549 --> 00:38:42,549
Sit down, Palmer.
773
00:38:43,783 --> 00:38:44,783
Sit down.
774
00:38:53,387 --> 00:38:54,387
If...
775
00:38:54,918 --> 00:38:58,983
none of us ever read a book that was
dangerous, or had a friend that was
776
00:38:59,298 --> 00:39:03,291
different, or joined an
organization that advocated change,
777
00:39:03,292 --> 00:39:06,717
we would all be the exact kind
of person Joe McCarthy wants.
778
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,841
We're going to go with the story.
779
00:39:12,049 --> 00:39:14,360
Because the terror is
right here, in this room.
780
00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:19,043
Our next report will be
about the Junior Senator
781
00:39:19,068 --> 00:39:20,156
from Wisconsin.
782
00:39:20,181 --> 00:39:21,737
And Fred, we use only his words.
783
00:39:21,817 --> 00:39:22,817
You understand?
784
00:39:23,857 --> 00:39:25,257
Okay, fellas, that's it.
785
00:39:25,290 --> 00:39:26,957
All the footage we've banked.
786
00:39:26,958 --> 00:39:27,553
Everything.
787
00:39:27,578 --> 00:39:30,358
John, you and Joe and Charlie go through
the HUAC hearings.
788
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:33,190
Eddie and Palmer, see what else we have.
789
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,763
Any speeches he gave or interviews.
790
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:37,150
His own words, boys.
791
00:39:37,483 --> 00:39:38,483
That's what we need.
792
00:39:38,796 --> 00:39:41,143
Milli, give me those notes.
793
00:39:48,942 --> 00:39:53,554
♪ There may be trouble ahead ♪
794
00:39:53,579 --> 00:39:55,648
♪ but while there's moonlight ♪
795
00:39:55,672 --> 00:40:00,240
♪ and music and love and romance. ♪
796
00:40:00,616 --> 00:40:05,288
♪ Let's face the music and dance. ♪
797
00:40:05,312 --> 00:40:09,891
♪ Before the fiddlers have fled. ♪
798
00:40:09,916 --> 00:40:14,000
♪ Before they ask us to pay the bill ♪
799
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,788
♪ and while we still got a chance. ♪
800
00:40:18,812 --> 00:40:23,026
♪ Let's face the music and dance. ♪
801
00:40:23,051 --> 00:40:27,241
♪ Soon ... we'll be without the moon ♪
802
00:40:27,265 --> 00:40:29,748
♪ humming a different tune ♪
803
00:40:29,772 --> 00:40:32,711
♪ and then ♪
804
00:40:32,748 --> 00:40:37,109
♪ there may be teardrops to shed. ♪
805
00:40:37,506 --> 00:40:40,221
♪ But while there's moonlight and music ♪
806
00:40:40,245 --> 00:40:44,095
♪ and love and romance ♪
807
00:40:44,125 --> 00:40:49,340
♪ let's face the music and dance. ♪
808
00:40:49,422 --> 00:40:52,941
♪ Let's face the music ♪
809
00:40:52,965 --> 00:40:58,313
♪ and dance. ♪
810
00:41:02,567 --> 00:41:03,567
You gonna make it?
811
00:41:03,592 --> 00:41:04,652
We lost the projector.
812
00:41:06,247 --> 00:41:07,487
Yeah, we'll make it.
813
00:41:07,747 --> 00:41:08,927
Excuse me, Mr. Murrow.
814
00:41:09,207 --> 00:41:10,707
Uh, Mr. Paley's on the line.
815
00:41:11,767 --> 00:41:14,107
Maybe he's gonna reimburse us for the ads.
816
00:41:14,547 --> 00:41:15,367
Uh, that's creepy.
817
00:41:15,467 --> 00:41:15,967
I wouldn't like that.
818
00:41:16,087 --> 00:41:16,727
I wouldn't like that.
819
00:41:16,827 --> 00:41:17,827
I already used it.
820
00:41:20,067 --> 00:41:21,167
This is Ed.
821
00:41:21,587 --> 00:41:22,587
Hey.
822
00:41:22,636 --> 00:41:24,147
The knickerbockers are playing.
823
00:41:24,167 --> 00:41:26,087
And I got front row seats.
824
00:41:26,112 --> 00:41:27,347
Are you interested?
825
00:41:27,696 --> 00:41:30,166
I'm a little busy bringing down the
network tonight, Bill.
826
00:41:32,147 --> 00:41:33,587
Oh, is that tonight?
827
00:41:34,446 --> 00:41:35,346
The knickerbockers, you say?
828
00:41:35,513 --> 00:41:36,370
Front row?
829
00:41:36,627 --> 00:41:37,627
It's tempting.
830
00:41:39,547 --> 00:41:40,547
So you know.
831
00:41:41,287 --> 00:41:42,287
We're covered.
832
00:41:42,907 --> 00:41:43,907
All right.
833
00:41:46,123 --> 00:41:47,153
I'm with you tonight, Ed.
834
00:41:47,962 --> 00:41:50,086
And I'll be with you
in the morning as well.
835
00:41:52,147 --> 00:41:53,147
Thanks, Bill.
836
00:41:55,443 --> 00:41:56,443
What do you think, Joe?
837
00:41:57,573 --> 00:41:59,800
I think we're ready.
838
00:42:00,593 --> 00:42:02,893
I wish we could wait
till we get more footage.
839
00:42:03,467 --> 00:42:04,907
I just don't think we
could take the chance.
840
00:42:04,927 --> 00:42:09,227
I think that we have to hit McCarthy
before he could come after Ed.
841
00:42:09,386 --> 00:42:12,946
Well, they haven't gone
after the Alsops or Herb Block.
842
00:42:13,299 --> 00:42:20,603
Yeah, the Alsops and Herb Block didn't work for
the Institute of International Education in 1934.
843
00:42:21,717 --> 00:42:23,067
Then I guess it's time.
844
00:42:24,127 --> 00:42:25,127
Okay.
845
00:42:25,787 --> 00:42:26,267
Hi.
846
00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:26,867
Hi.
847
00:42:26,987 --> 00:42:27,987
Hi.
848
00:42:28,267 --> 00:42:28,747
Bye.
849
00:42:29,107 --> 00:42:30,107
Bye.
850
00:42:34,787 --> 00:42:35,787
You worried?
851
00:42:37,157 --> 00:42:38,207
I didn't think I was.
852
00:42:39,087 --> 00:42:40,227
I don't know why.
853
00:42:40,367 --> 00:42:41,887
I was in the office on Friday.
854
00:42:42,127 --> 00:42:43,127
I answered the phone.
855
00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:45,167
It was Howard calling from London.
856
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,803
He asked me what was
going on with McCarthy.
857
00:42:47,827 --> 00:42:53,588
And before I answered him, I turned and
looked over my shoulder to see who was listening.
858
00:42:54,393 --> 00:42:55,393
And who was listening?
859
00:42:56,957 --> 00:42:57,957
Chairman Mao.
860
00:42:59,350 --> 00:43:00,187
Oh, Joe.
861
00:43:00,557 --> 00:43:01,557
Your ring.
862
00:43:02,687 --> 00:43:03,693
Jesus Christ.
863
00:43:03,718 --> 00:43:06,441
Name me another wife who
reminds her husband to take
864
00:43:06,442 --> 00:43:08,967
off his wedding ring
before he goes to the office.
865
00:43:10,247 --> 00:43:11,247
Ava Gardner.
866
00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:12,339
30 seconds.
867
00:43:14,067 --> 00:43:15,067
...command...
868
00:43:18,697 --> 00:43:20,898
...in desperate... ...for...
869
00:43:22,397 --> 00:43:24,793
...in desperate... ...for
the man... ...the one and
870
00:43:24,794 --> 00:43:27,758
only... ...in desperate...
...can... ...connu...
871
00:43:29,417 --> 00:43:30,777
...20 seconds...
872
00:43:40,673 --> 00:43:41,803
...10 seconds...
873
00:43:46,046 --> 00:43:47,732
...in 5...
874
00:43:47,757 --> 00:43:49,617
...4... ...3...
875
00:43:50,067 --> 00:43:51,067
...2...
876
00:43:52,457 --> 00:43:53,137
...Good Evening.
877
00:43:53,317 --> 00:43:55,916
Because a report on senator Joseph R. McCarthy
878
00:43:55,941 --> 00:43:58,098
...is by definition
controversial.
879
00:43:58,316 --> 00:44:02,517
We want to say exactly what we mean and
request permission to read from a script
880
00:44:02,695 --> 00:44:05,435
any remarks Murrow and Friendly may make.
881
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,957
If the Senator feels that we have done
violence to his words or pictures and he
882
00:44:09,958 --> 00:44:15,478
wishes to speak to answer himself, an
opportunity will be afforded him on this program.
883
00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:17,997
Our working thesis tonight
is from this quotation.
884
00:44:18,590 --> 00:44:22,837
"If this fight against communism has made a
fight between America's two great
885
00:44:22,838 --> 00:44:26,477
political parties, the American people
know that one of those parties will be
886
00:44:26,478 --> 00:44:30,197
destroyed and the republic cannot endure
very long as a one-party system."
887
00:44:30,619 --> 00:44:31,660
We applaud that statement.
888
00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:33,933
We think Senator McCarthy should as well.
889
00:44:33,957 --> 00:44:36,237
He said it 17 months ago in Milwaukee.
890
00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:40,692
The American people realize
that this cannot be made a fight
891
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,438
between America's
two great political parties.
892
00:44:44,089 --> 00:44:48,033
If this fight against communism has made a
fight between America's two great political parties,
893
00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:51,357
the American people
know that one of those parties will be
894
00:44:51,382 --> 00:44:55,897
destroyed and the republic can't endure
very long as a one-party system.
895
00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:59,236
...on one thing the Senator has been
consistent.
896
00:44:59,590 --> 00:45:03,991
Often acting as a one-man committee,
he has traveled far, interviewed many,
897
00:45:04,016 --> 00:45:08,013
terrorized some, accused civilian and
military leaders of the past
898
00:45:08,038 --> 00:45:12,260
administration of a great conspiracy to
hand over the country to communism.
899
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:16,817
Well, may I say that I was extremely
shocked when I heard that Secretary
900
00:45:16,818 --> 00:45:21,759
Stephen told Miami officers
that they had to take part in
901
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,877
the cover-up of those who
promoted Ricardo's communism.
902
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:35,638
As a ready statement, I thought of that quotation
"On what meat doth this our Caesar feed?"
903
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:39,063
And upon what meat does
Senator McCarthy feed?
904
00:45:39,533 --> 00:45:43,728
Two of the staples of his diet are the
investigations, protected by immunity,
905
00:45:43,753 --> 00:45:45,060
and the half-truths.
906
00:45:45,689 --> 00:45:49,553
You attended Columbia University
in the early 30s. Is that right?
907
00:45:49,578 --> 00:45:50,728
I did, Mr. Chairman.
908
00:45:50,753 --> 00:45:52,059
Will you speak
a little louder, sir?
909
00:45:52,084 --> 00:45:53,453
I did, Mr. Chairman.
910
00:45:54,050 --> 00:45:57,117
And... Were you
expelled from Columbia?
911
00:45:59,096 --> 00:46:03,223
I was suspended from
classes on April 1st, 1932.
912
00:46:03,453 --> 00:46:07,609
I was later reinstated, and I
resigned from the university.
913
00:46:08,288 --> 00:46:09,769
And you resigned from the university?
914
00:46:12,813 --> 00:46:17,463
Did the Civil Liberties Union provide you
with an attorney at that time?
915
00:46:18,364 --> 00:46:23,296
I had many offers of attorneys, and one of those
was from the American Civil Liberties Union, yes.
916
00:46:23,358 --> 00:46:26,897
The question is, did the Civil Liberties
Union supply you with an attorney?
917
00:46:26,932 --> 00:46:28,053
They did supply an attorney.
918
00:46:28,377 --> 00:46:29,377
The answer is yes.
919
00:46:29,797 --> 00:46:30,797
The answer is yes.
920
00:46:31,397 --> 00:46:34,477
You know, the Civil Liberties
Union has been listed as
921
00:46:34,478 --> 00:46:36,898
a front foreign doing the
work of the Communist Party.
922
00:46:38,193 --> 00:46:40,316
Mr. Chairman, this was 1932.
923
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:45,648
Yeah, I know that was 1932. Do you
know that they since have been listed as a
924
00:46:45,649 --> 00:46:47,978
front foreign doing the work
of the Communist Party?
925
00:46:48,057 --> 00:46:50,257
I do not know that they
have been listed so, sir.
926
00:46:50,337 --> 00:46:51,396
You don't know that they have been listed?
927
00:46:51,421 --> 00:46:52,727
I've read that mention.
928
00:46:52,780 --> 00:46:54,192
I read that mention.
929
00:46:54,437 --> 00:46:56,977
You wrote a book in 1932.
930
00:46:57,450 --> 00:46:59,137
I'm going to ask you again.
931
00:46:59,197 --> 00:47:03,997
At the time you wrote this book,
did you feel that professors should be
932
00:47:03,998 --> 00:47:11,837
given the right to teach sophomores that
marriage, let me quote, "should be cast out
933
00:47:11,838 --> 00:47:17,216
of our civilization as antiquated and
stupid religious phenomena?"
934
00:47:17,323 --> 00:47:19,068
Was that your feeling at that time?
935
00:47:19,093 --> 00:47:22,916
My feeling was that professors
should have the right to
936
00:47:22,917 --> 00:47:25,737
express their opinions on any
subject, whatever they were.
937
00:47:26,006 --> 00:47:27,917
I'm going to make you answer that.
938
00:47:28,021 --> 00:47:29,426
Well I, I'll answer yes.
939
00:47:29,451 --> 00:47:34,297
But you put an implication on it and you
feature this particular point out of a
940
00:47:34,298 --> 00:47:36,552
book, which of course is
quite out of context, does
941
00:47:36,553 --> 00:47:39,077
not give a proper impression
of a book as a whole.
942
00:47:39,583 --> 00:47:42,827
The American public doesn't
get an honest impression of
943
00:47:42,828 --> 00:47:45,257
even that book as it is from
what you're quoting from it.
944
00:47:45,277 --> 00:47:46,277
Back in 5, 4, 3, 2...
945
00:47:46,737 --> 00:47:50,277
The Reid-Harris hearing illustrates one of
the Senator's techniques.
946
00:47:50,759 --> 00:47:54,997
Twice, he said the American Civil Liberties
Union was listed as a subversive front.
947
00:47:55,340 --> 00:47:59,857
The Attorney General's List does not and
never has listed the ACLU as subversive,
948
00:47:59,877 --> 00:48:03,397
nor has the FBI or any other
federal government agency.
949
00:48:03,653 --> 00:48:08,257
And the ACLU holds in its files letters of
commendation from President Truman,
950
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,137
President Eisenhower, and General
MacArthur.
951
00:48:11,896 --> 00:48:16,557
Earlier, the Senator asked, upon what meat
does this our Caesar feed?
952
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:20,237
Had he looked three lines earlier in his
speech, Shakespeare's Caesar, he would
953
00:48:20,238 --> 00:48:22,598
have found this line, which is not
altogether inappropriate.
954
00:48:23,256 --> 00:48:28,410
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not
in our stars, but in ourselves."
955
00:48:28,876 --> 00:48:33,257
No one familiar with the history of this country
can deny that congressional committees are useful.
956
00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:36,657
It is necessary to
investigate before legislating.
957
00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:40,757
But the line between investigating and
persecuting is a very fine one,
958
00:48:40,782 --> 00:48:44,617
and the junior senator from Wisconsin has
stepped over it repeatedly.
959
00:48:45,290 --> 00:48:48,117
We must not confuse
dissent with disloyalty.
960
00:48:48,250 --> 00:48:51,136
We must remember always
that accusation is not proof, and
961
00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:54,297
that conviction depends upon
evidence and due process of law.
962
00:48:54,766 --> 00:48:57,197
We will not walk in fear one of another.
963
00:48:57,473 --> 00:49:01,917
We will not be driven by fear into an age
of unreason if we dig deep in our history
964
00:49:01,918 --> 00:49:05,097
and our doctrine, and remember that we are
not descended from fearful men.
965
00:49:05,526 --> 00:49:09,028
Not from men who feared to
write, to speak, to associate,
966
00:49:09,029 --> 00:49:11,897
or to defend the causes that
are for the moment unpopular.
967
00:49:12,583 --> 00:49:15,473
We proclaim ourselves as
indeed we are the defenders of
968
00:49:15,498 --> 00:49:18,257
freedom, wherever it
continues to exist in the world.
969
00:49:18,563 --> 00:49:22,237
But we cannot defend freedom
abroad by deserting it at home.
970
00:49:22,853 --> 00:49:27,617
The actions of the junior senator from
Wisconsin have caused alarm and dismay
971
00:49:27,618 --> 00:49:31,837
amongst our allies abroad, and given
considerable comfort to our enemies.
972
00:49:32,540 --> 00:49:33,877
And whose fault is that?
973
00:49:34,397 --> 00:49:35,397
Not really his.
974
00:49:36,146 --> 00:49:40,737
He didn't create this situation of fear,
he merely exploited it.
975
00:49:41,216 --> 00:49:42,216
And rather successfully.
976
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,530
Cassius was right.
977
00:49:45,523 --> 00:49:49,746
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our
stars, but in ourselves.
978
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:52,117
Good night, and good luck.
979
00:49:58,647 --> 00:49:59,647
And we're out.
980
00:50:04,837 --> 00:50:05,837
Good evening.
981
00:50:07,102 --> 00:50:09,087
I don't know whether all of
you have seen what I just saw,
982
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:13,368
but I want to associate myself and this
program with what Ed Murrow has just said
983
00:50:13,393 --> 00:50:16,243
and say that I've never
been prouder of CBS.
984
00:50:17,437 --> 00:50:18,437
And now the news.
985
00:50:18,623 --> 00:50:19,623
Feel like a scotch?
986
00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:21,670
I think everybody could use one.
987
00:50:21,718 --> 00:50:21,997
Yep.
988
00:50:22,022 --> 00:50:24,677
Women have moved into another male domain.
989
00:50:25,036 --> 00:50:27,900
In 20 United States cities,
they've proved themselves
990
00:50:27,901 --> 00:50:30,498
highly efficient in
parking and traffic control.
991
00:50:31,597 --> 00:50:36,037
And the trends to the greater employment
of traffic policemen as women is rising.
992
00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:38,137
Many of the...
993
00:51:02,577 --> 00:51:03,777
Fritz, what time is it?
994
00:51:06,717 --> 00:51:07,450
3:30.
995
00:51:07,610 --> 00:51:09,417
Early editions are out now.
996
00:51:09,637 --> 00:51:11,117
Oh, I'm not worried about that.
997
00:51:11,287 --> 00:51:12,397
No, of course not.
998
00:51:12,997 --> 00:51:14,377
Hey, Cheryl, honey.
999
00:51:14,466 --> 00:51:16,617
Run down and pick up the early editions.
1000
00:51:16,913 --> 00:51:17,677
All of them?
1001
00:51:17,777 --> 00:51:18,217
All of them.
1002
00:51:18,218 --> 00:51:19,218
Just get O'Brien.
1003
00:51:19,427 --> 00:51:20,897
All right, watch my drink.
1004
00:51:21,937 --> 00:51:23,217
Yeah, I'll go with you, Shirley.
1005
00:51:28,903 --> 00:51:31,303
I'm going to have to fire
Joe so those two can date.
1006
00:51:31,328 --> 00:51:32,113
Cigarette?
1007
00:51:32,138 --> 00:51:33,138
I quit.
1008
00:51:33,417 --> 00:51:34,457
Good time to quit.
1009
00:51:35,297 --> 00:51:36,737
Yeah, but what could you do?
1010
00:51:36,763 --> 00:51:39,138
Well, first we want to see
if we have jobs tomorrow.
1011
00:51:39,557 --> 00:51:44,237
And if we still have jobs tomorrow,
then tail gunner Joe gets to return fire.
1012
00:51:44,557 --> 00:51:45,557
What's he gonna say?
1013
00:51:45,897 --> 00:51:50,237
He's gonna say we're a pinko
organization with a leftist agenda.
1014
00:51:50,337 --> 00:51:51,497
We used his own words.
1015
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:53,017
It's, uh...
1016
00:51:53,917 --> 00:51:55,737
Well, we do have a leftist agenda.
1017
00:51:57,216 --> 00:51:58,216
I'm a pinko.
1018
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:02,290
Little too loud there, Charlie.
1019
00:52:04,157 --> 00:52:05,857
Been awfully quiet there, didn't it?
1020
00:52:06,077 --> 00:52:07,357
We've got Annie Lee Moss.
1021
00:52:08,070 --> 00:52:10,900
We can have that together
by next week, if need be.
1022
00:52:10,925 --> 00:52:11,963
Is that a whole show?
1023
00:52:12,057 --> 00:52:13,057
It's close.
1024
00:52:13,476 --> 00:52:14,476
Listen, Ed.
1025
00:52:15,737 --> 00:52:18,557
There's not gonna be a
shortage of material on him.
1026
00:52:18,777 --> 00:52:24,758
What we have to do now is keep up the pressure,
till his rebuttal, and then move to Calcutta.
1027
00:52:26,589 --> 00:52:28,249
Sure do miss radio.
1028
00:52:28,810 --> 00:52:30,384
You've got a face for radio.
1029
00:52:31,997 --> 00:52:33,717
That's what my wife keeps telling me.
1030
00:52:33,957 --> 00:52:35,057
All right, here we go.
1031
00:52:35,097 --> 00:52:36,237
We've got all of them.
1032
00:52:36,617 --> 00:52:38,197
The Post, The Times.
1033
00:52:38,337 --> 00:52:38,777
Who wrote it?
1034
00:52:38,957 --> 00:52:39,477
Jack Gould.
1035
00:52:39,717 --> 00:52:40,717
Oh!
1036
00:52:41,157 --> 00:52:42,117
Edward R. Murrow's
1037
00:52:42,177 --> 00:52:46,137
television program on Senator
Joseph R. McCarthy
1038
00:52:46,157 --> 00:52:51,137
was an exciting and provocative
examination of the man and his methods.
1039
00:52:51,567 --> 00:52:56,060
It was crusading journalism
of high responsibility and
1040
00:52:56,085 --> 00:53:00,486
courage for TVs so often
plagued by timidity and hesitation.
1041
00:53:00,753 --> 00:53:03,997
The program was a milestone that reflected
enlightened citizenship.
1042
00:53:05,857 --> 00:53:07,937
Yeah, what's this guy's beak, huh?
1043
00:53:08,117 --> 00:53:09,397
Oh, wait, hold on, hold on.
1044
00:53:09,697 --> 00:53:14,737
The program was no less an indictment of
those who wished the problems posed by the
1045
00:53:14,738 --> 00:53:18,897
senator's tactics and theatrics would just
go away and leave them alone.
1046
00:53:19,387 --> 00:53:22,857
That was Mr. Murrow's and television's
triumph and a very great one.
1047
00:53:23,097 --> 00:53:24,097
Hear, hear!
1048
00:53:24,977 --> 00:53:27,057
Send the Brits in the New
York Times a bottle of scotch.
1049
00:53:27,297 --> 00:53:28,297
I already did.
1050
00:53:28,397 --> 00:53:29,977
How do you think we got that review?
1051
00:53:31,877 --> 00:53:33,277
What about the Post?
1052
00:53:33,917 --> 00:53:34,917
Pretty good.
1053
00:53:35,297 --> 00:53:36,337
What about O'Brien?
1054
00:53:37,017 --> 00:53:38,017
The same.
1055
00:53:39,377 --> 00:53:40,677
Shirley, what did O'Brien say?
1056
00:53:41,677 --> 00:53:42,677
Oh, I don't have it.
1057
00:53:42,877 --> 00:53:43,877
Joe, what about you?
1058
00:53:44,817 --> 00:53:46,277
No, it's here somewhere.
1059
00:53:48,257 --> 00:53:49,257
Okay.
1060
00:53:51,157 --> 00:53:52,157
Hang on.
1061
00:53:52,737 --> 00:53:53,737
Okay.
1062
00:53:53,937 --> 00:53:54,937
Jack O'Brien.
1063
00:53:56,257 --> 00:53:58,957
We can't say we were
surprised at Edward R. Murrow's
1064
00:53:58,989 --> 00:54:04,329
hate-McCarthy telecast last
evening when his explosively one-sided
1065
00:54:04,537 --> 00:54:08,251
propaganda edited with
deviously clever selectivity for
1066
00:54:08,252 --> 00:54:11,837
McCarthy's march against
communism was finished last evening.
1067
00:54:12,627 --> 00:54:16,957
By equally Machiavellian coincidence,
the following telecast featured Murrow's
1068
00:54:17,057 --> 00:54:18,517
PM protégé, Don Hollenbeck.
1069
00:54:18,877 --> 00:54:19,877
What?
1070
00:54:20,917 --> 00:54:24,917
In an obviously gloating mood,
Hollenbeck hoped viewers had witnessed his
1071
00:54:25,117 --> 00:54:25,837
patron's triumph in his own right.
1072
00:54:25,987 --> 00:54:27,068
I am from and for the left.
1073
00:54:27,957 --> 00:54:29,617
And so on and so on.
1074
00:54:29,697 --> 00:54:31,777
Yeah, I guess O'Brien doesn't like scotch.
1075
00:54:32,937 --> 00:54:34,337
It's okay, Shirley, finish it.
1076
00:54:34,537 --> 00:54:35,797
Shirley, read the post, huh?
1077
00:54:35,917 --> 00:54:36,357
Yes.
1078
00:54:36,747 --> 00:54:37,377
That's it, Don.
1079
00:54:37,617 --> 00:54:39,438
It's just... Shirley, finish it.
1080
00:54:40,257 --> 00:54:41,057
That's it, Don.
1081
00:54:41,058 --> 00:54:41,777
Yeah, Don, that's it.
1082
00:54:42,017 --> 00:54:43,017
Shirley.
1083
00:54:46,037 --> 00:54:47,037
Okay.
1084
00:54:48,473 --> 00:54:52,757
The Columbia Broadcasting System has been
in a lengthy clean house of lefties' mood.
1085
00:54:53,317 --> 00:54:56,518
The worst offenders on lesser levels have
been quietly pushed out of the company.
1086
00:54:57,053 --> 00:55:02,037
Don Hollenbeck, a graduate of the demised
Pinko Publication PM, attacked
1087
00:55:02,038 --> 00:55:04,897
conservative newspapers with sly and
slanted propaganda.
1088
00:55:05,807 --> 00:55:08,617
He then proceeded through an equally
tilted review of the day's events,
1089
00:55:08,757 --> 00:55:11,997
with McCarthy dominating his words,
actions, attitude, and camera.
1090
00:55:14,037 --> 00:55:15,037
It's O'Brien.
1091
00:55:16,247 --> 00:55:17,977
I think I'll have
that cigarette, Ed.
1092
00:55:18,217 --> 00:55:19,217
Yup.
1093
00:55:20,513 --> 00:55:21,513
I'm heading out.
1094
00:55:21,797 --> 00:55:22,357
Yeah.
1095
00:55:22,382 --> 00:55:25,361
Got a staff meeting in five hours.
1096
00:55:25,497 --> 00:55:26,497
Whoa!
1097
00:55:26,537 --> 00:55:26,977
Whoa!
1098
00:55:27,037 --> 00:55:28,057
It is late!
1099
00:55:28,497 --> 00:55:28,737
Mm.
1100
00:55:28,977 --> 00:55:29,177
Oh.
1101
00:55:29,777 --> 00:55:31,537
Do you want to share a cab?
1102
00:55:32,083 --> 00:55:33,337
Oh, uh, yeah.
1103
00:55:33,397 --> 00:55:34,397
You headed downtown?
1104
00:55:34,437 --> 00:55:34,637
Yes.
1105
00:55:35,087 --> 00:55:36,457
Well, where do you live, Shirley?
1106
00:55:36,596 --> 00:55:37,817
Oh, she lives downtown.
1107
00:55:38,097 --> 00:55:38,337
Ah.
1108
00:55:38,397 --> 00:55:39,397
Yes.
1109
00:55:39,683 --> 00:55:41,177
Hang in there, Don.
1110
00:55:41,257 --> 00:55:42,257
See ya, boys.
1111
00:55:42,577 --> 00:55:43,577
See ya.
1112
00:55:43,957 --> 00:55:44,897
See ya, Ed.
1113
00:55:44,917 --> 00:55:45,317
Thank you.
1114
00:55:45,318 --> 00:55:45,557
Don.
1115
00:55:45,893 --> 00:55:46,543
I appreciate it.
1116
00:55:46,717 --> 00:55:46,977
Okay.
1117
00:55:46,978 --> 00:55:48,098
A big day tomorrow.
1118
00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:49,617
Yeah, today, you mean.
1119
00:55:49,757 --> 00:55:50,057
Huh?
1120
00:55:50,058 --> 00:55:50,877
Let's drink.
1121
00:55:50,977 --> 00:55:51,437
We're drinking.
1122
00:55:51,697 --> 00:55:52,097
Come on.
1123
00:55:52,098 --> 00:55:52,257
Sit.
1124
00:55:52,577 --> 00:55:53,577
As you see.
1125
00:55:55,306 --> 00:55:57,277
Sorry I missed you the other night,
Don.
1126
00:56:01,067 --> 00:56:02,457
I need to ask you something, Ed.
1127
00:56:03,777 --> 00:56:04,777
It's about O'Brien.
1128
00:56:04,877 --> 00:56:05,717
O'Brien doesn't matter.
1129
00:56:05,757 --> 00:56:06,277
He's killing me.
1130
00:56:06,297 --> 00:56:07,497
It doesn't make a bit of
difference in the news.
1131
00:56:07,498 --> 00:56:08,498
It's not just him.
1132
00:56:08,537 --> 00:56:09,633
We have to let this guy have it.
1133
00:56:09,657 --> 00:56:11,657
- We should expose O'Brien.
- We're not gonna go after O'Brien.
1134
00:56:11,658 --> 00:56:13,897
I'm not gonna take on McCarthy and Hearst.
1135
00:56:14,086 --> 00:56:15,413
I can't beat them both.
1136
00:56:15,438 --> 00:56:16,853
Don't read the paper, Don.
1137
00:56:17,730 --> 00:56:19,283
Or don't read O'Brien anyway.
1138
00:56:25,247 --> 00:56:25,713
No.
1139
00:56:27,436 --> 00:56:28,796
No, I guess not.
1140
00:56:49,126 --> 00:56:54,056
I wake up in the morning and I don't
recognize anything.
1141
00:56:56,460 --> 00:57:00,937
I feel like I went to sleep three years
ago and somebody hijacked.
1142
00:57:02,343 --> 00:57:06,137
As if all the reasonable people took a
plane to Europe and left us behind.
1143
00:57:24,777 --> 00:57:25,777
I was always...
1144
00:57:29,139 --> 00:57:30,299
I was always an optimist.
1145
00:57:30,987 --> 00:57:31,987
Really.
1146
00:57:32,146 --> 00:57:33,810
I always thought things work out.
1147
00:57:34,807 --> 00:57:35,807
Half full.
1148
00:57:38,147 --> 00:57:39,147
Yeah.
1149
00:57:41,516 --> 00:57:43,800
I believe in the system, Don.
1150
00:57:44,967 --> 00:57:48,107
As disastrous as it can
seem at times, I believe in it.
1151
00:57:49,406 --> 00:57:51,280
We designed it to fix it.
1152
00:57:52,496 --> 00:57:55,767
Madison built it into the Constitution,
for Christ's sake.
1153
00:57:55,768 --> 00:57:56,768
It's a...
1154
00:57:57,243 --> 00:57:58,833
I was talking about my divorce.
1155
00:58:00,627 --> 00:58:01,627
So was I.
1156
00:58:04,983 --> 00:58:08,787
Well, I'm glad the forefathers understood
the term dissolution of a union.
1157
00:58:09,547 --> 00:58:12,027
I'm sure they had their difficulties with
the opposite sex.
1158
00:58:12,810 --> 00:58:14,268
I'm talking about McCarthy.
1159
00:58:15,387 --> 00:58:16,387
So was I.
1160
00:58:21,830 --> 00:58:23,107
Well, I thought I'd try.
1161
00:58:25,643 --> 00:58:26,847
Sorry, Don.
1162
00:58:28,756 --> 00:58:30,907
We never had this conversation,
okay?
1163
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,768
It's okay with you, Senator.
1164
00:58:35,387 --> 00:58:35,987
Don't laugh.
1165
00:58:36,107 --> 00:58:37,107
I've thought about it.
1166
00:58:59,433 --> 00:59:03,417
From Studio 41 in Grand Central Station,
New York City, the morning show.
1167
00:59:03,597 --> 00:59:04,677
How long for that new copy?
1168
00:59:04,732 --> 00:59:05,732
Just give me an hour.
1169
00:59:05,757 --> 00:59:06,917
Uh, it's gonna need an hour.
1170
00:59:07,097 --> 00:59:08,337
But you've been here all night?
1171
00:59:08,392 --> 00:59:09,392
Yeah, we got a deadline.
1172
00:59:09,997 --> 00:59:11,417
We just got back from D.C.
1173
00:59:11,797 --> 00:59:12,797
Look at Lely.
1174
00:59:12,827 --> 00:59:14,093
Just look an axe
1175
00:59:14,127 --> 00:59:15,567
To McCarthy at the Pentagon hearing.
1176
00:59:15,637 --> 00:59:16,777
He called McCarthy evil.
1177
00:59:16,778 --> 00:59:17,457
Wait, who did?
1178
00:59:17,697 --> 00:59:18,697
Senator McClellan.
1179
00:59:18,907 --> 00:59:20,517
He's sitting two seats down from McCarthy.
1180
00:59:20,518 --> 00:59:21,678
I gotta get this to the land.
1181
00:59:21,722 --> 00:59:23,537
He gets up, calls him evil.
1182
00:59:23,657 --> 00:59:24,337
Wait, who's evil?
1183
00:59:24,457 --> 00:59:25,457
You get it on camera?
1184
00:59:25,697 --> 00:59:26,077
Yeah.
1185
00:59:26,137 --> 00:59:27,137
I think we do.
1186
00:59:27,217 --> 00:59:28,217
Wait, who is evil?
1187
00:59:28,377 --> 00:59:29,397
Oh, Eddie.
1188
00:59:29,890 --> 00:59:31,267
I can hear you.
1189
00:59:31,917 --> 00:59:33,077
What are they doing in there?
1190
00:59:33,140 --> 00:59:34,797
Uh, rewriting the Constitution.
1191
00:59:35,049 --> 00:59:36,370
They were there for the original.
1192
00:59:37,137 --> 00:59:38,217
Uh, hold on, Joe.
1193
00:59:38,577 --> 00:59:40,457
Palmer, can I talk to you for a minute?
1194
00:59:40,482 --> 00:59:41,482
Yeah, sure, Fred.
1195
00:59:41,877 --> 00:59:42,717
Uh, give me a second.
1196
00:59:42,877 --> 00:59:43,037
Fred.
1197
00:59:43,657 --> 00:59:44,057
Yeah.
1198
00:59:44,177 --> 00:59:45,177
Uh, fellas.
1199
00:59:45,396 --> 00:59:46,757
Uh, McCarthy's office just called.
1200
00:59:46,807 --> 00:59:49,037
He wants equal time.
1201
00:59:49,457 --> 00:59:50,457
When?
1202
00:59:50,482 --> 00:59:51,557
April 6th.
1203
00:59:51,577 --> 00:59:52,360
In studio?
1204
00:59:52,385 --> 00:59:54,016
He wants to film it in his office.
1205
00:59:54,041 --> 00:59:54,730
Who?
1206
00:59:55,216 --> 00:59:56,216
McCarthy.
1207
00:59:57,060 --> 00:59:58,557
Jesus Christ.
1208
00:59:58,786 --> 01:00:00,937
They, they told me Buckley wanted to
respond.
1209
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:01,577
No.
1210
01:00:02,277 --> 01:00:03,937
Um, it's McCarthy.
1211
01:00:04,443 --> 01:00:06,857
Yeah, but are, are they
gonna let Charlie shoot?
1212
01:00:06,858 --> 01:00:07,397
What's he gonna say?
1213
01:00:07,557 --> 01:00:08,337
Why are you gonna shoot him?
1214
01:00:08,357 --> 01:00:11,457
You know what it's gonna be.
1215
01:00:11,537 --> 01:00:12,537
He's gonna come after me.
1216
01:00:12,562 --> 01:00:13,763
It's the only thing he can do.
1217
01:00:14,386 --> 01:00:16,737
He's gonna bet that, uh,
Senator Trump's a newsman.
1218
01:00:16,757 --> 01:00:17,157
Huh.
1219
01:00:17,377 --> 01:00:18,377
He'll lose.
1220
01:00:20,537 --> 01:00:21,537
Maybe.
1221
01:00:23,357 --> 01:00:24,357
Okay, fellas.
1222
01:00:24,397 --> 01:00:24,977
Here we go.
1223
01:00:25,077 --> 01:00:26,077
Joe, call Stanton.
1224
01:00:26,117 --> 01:00:26,577
Let him know.
1225
01:00:26,697 --> 01:00:27,197
You got it.
1226
01:00:27,198 --> 01:00:29,997
John, uh, let's see all the Eisenhower
footage you've got.
1227
01:00:30,057 --> 01:00:31,377
We, we need to prep a response.
1228
01:00:31,517 --> 01:00:31,877
Okay, Fred.
1229
01:00:31,897 --> 01:00:32,137
Yep.
1230
01:00:32,417 --> 01:00:36,977
Um, Palmer, Phil, in legal,
wants to have a word with you.
1231
01:00:37,057 --> 01:00:37,377
Okay.
1232
01:00:37,557 --> 01:00:38,557
Okay.
1233
01:00:39,437 --> 01:00:39,877
Now?
1234
01:00:39,953 --> 01:00:40,757
Uh, yes.
1235
01:00:40,973 --> 01:00:42,419
Now is best.
1236
01:00:43,569 --> 01:00:45,519
Never very good news, is it?
1237
01:00:48,177 --> 01:00:49,177
Not often.
1238
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,093
Operator.
1239
01:01:03,687 --> 01:01:05,487
Can you connect me with Phil in legal?
1240
01:01:05,513 --> 01:01:06,807
Right away.
1241
01:01:08,757 --> 01:01:09,757
Mr. Williams.
1242
01:01:10,213 --> 01:01:11,213
Guilty.
1243
01:01:12,226 --> 01:01:13,226
Let's hope not.
1244
01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:16,847
There isn't a lot of
time, so I'll be brief.
1245
01:01:18,387 --> 01:01:21,487
This network is under a
tremendous amount of pressure.
1246
01:01:21,536 --> 01:01:23,003
These stories aren't helping.
1247
01:01:23,027 --> 01:01:24,027
I, I understand.
1248
01:01:24,052 --> 01:01:25,307
I'm not sure you do.
1249
01:01:26,423 --> 01:01:30,087
There's a great deal of concern
about your past positions.
1250
01:01:30,153 --> 01:01:31,713
My wife's past positions?
1251
01:01:31,738 --> 01:01:32,738
That's right.
1252
01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:35,513
HUAC has a file on you.
1253
01:01:37,647 --> 01:01:38,647
How do you know?
1254
01:01:38,687 --> 01:01:40,307
A file was sent to Mr. Paley yesterday.
1255
01:01:41,577 --> 01:01:42,987
Well, that's interesting timing.
1256
01:01:43,012 --> 01:01:44,292
Well, when you strike at a king.
1257
01:01:44,457 --> 01:01:46,456
Or a junior senator from Wisconsin.
1258
01:01:50,587 --> 01:01:52,147
CBS is prepared to make an offer.
1259
01:01:52,607 --> 01:01:53,187
Uh-oh.
1260
01:01:53,227 --> 01:01:57,808
If you submit your resignation, CBS will cover any
legal expenses you might incur on this subject.
1261
01:01:58,187 --> 01:01:59,360
Well, that's awfully kind of you.
1262
01:01:59,387 --> 01:01:59,807
No, it isn't.
1263
01:01:59,886 --> 01:02:00,886
No, it isn't.
1264
01:02:02,467 --> 01:02:03,827
These guys don't play around.
1265
01:02:04,812 --> 01:02:05,667
They're relentless.
1266
01:02:05,787 --> 01:02:08,807
They will cost you everything you have.
1267
01:02:10,167 --> 01:02:11,167
I understand.
1268
01:02:14,787 --> 01:02:15,787
Do you?
1269
01:02:17,413 --> 01:02:18,413
Palmer.
1270
01:02:19,067 --> 01:02:20,067
Take the deal.
1271
01:02:21,111 --> 01:02:24,363
If these guys decide to call you in,
we will cut you loose.
1272
01:02:24,776 --> 01:02:27,427
And then no one will be there to help.
Not CBS.
1273
01:02:27,787 --> 01:02:28,787
Not Murrow.
1274
01:02:29,987 --> 01:02:30,987
No one.
1275
01:02:37,273 --> 01:02:38,273
Phil, you're a good guy.
1276
01:02:40,088 --> 01:02:42,860
And I appreciate that this is your job.
1277
01:02:45,009 --> 01:02:48,576
But what you're asking me to do,
I could never do.
1278
01:02:51,267 --> 01:02:52,267
I understand.
1279
01:02:56,213 --> 01:02:59,113
Well, it's funny how your life can be
upended just for telling the truth.
1280
01:02:59,206 --> 01:03:00,206
And marrying a communist.
1281
01:03:00,273 --> 01:03:01,883
Oh yeah, there is that.
1282
01:03:03,547 --> 01:03:04,547
Be careful.
1283
01:03:05,433 --> 01:03:06,433
Yeah.
1284
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:10,100
Ed.
1285
01:03:11,567 --> 01:03:12,587
It's 28 minutes.
1286
01:03:12,612 --> 01:03:13,972
I could clip a little off the end.
1287
01:03:14,827 --> 01:03:16,187
I think we have to leave it alone.
1288
01:03:16,947 --> 01:03:17,627
Very smart.
1289
01:03:17,727 --> 01:03:18,567
No time for comment.
1290
01:03:18,592 --> 01:03:19,872
Came in 10 minutes ago.
1291
01:03:20,307 --> 01:03:22,967
And we put it up, saw
the first couple of minutes.
1292
01:03:23,959 --> 01:03:24,959
You're right.
1293
01:03:25,323 --> 01:03:26,323
He's coming after me.
1294
01:03:27,232 --> 01:03:28,657
Okay.
Thanks.
1295
01:03:31,276 --> 01:03:33,407
Charlie, have you seen the latest polls?
1296
01:03:33,408 --> 01:03:36,467
The most trusted man
in America is Milton Berle.
1297
01:03:38,387 --> 01:03:40,067
Maybe he should do the story.
1298
01:03:41,327 --> 01:03:42,327
Hey, Fred.
1299
01:03:43,007 --> 01:03:45,807
Let's say we grab a little dinner after
the show.
1300
01:03:46,103 --> 01:03:47,103
The 21 Club?
1301
01:03:47,307 --> 01:03:47,847
Sure.
1302
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,006
45 seconds to air.
1303
01:03:51,407 --> 01:03:52,407
Look.
1304
01:03:52,936 --> 01:03:54,956
There's nothing fun about this one.
1305
01:03:55,467 --> 01:04:00,867
You just gotta put your gloves down, stick
your chin out, and just take it for a whole round.
1306
01:04:00,868 --> 01:04:02,307
Next week's our round.
1307
01:04:02,706 --> 01:04:03,866
If I make it up off the mat.
1308
01:04:04,447 --> 01:04:05,027
You will.
1309
01:04:05,407 --> 01:04:06,407
30 seconds.
1310
01:04:16,383 --> 01:04:17,383
20 seconds.
1311
01:04:27,827 --> 01:04:28,867
10 seconds.
1312
01:04:33,626 --> 01:04:37,990
In 5...4...3...2.
1313
01:04:39,127 --> 01:04:40,127
Good evening.
1314
01:04:40,447 --> 01:04:44,906
One month ago tonight we presented
our report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy.
1315
01:04:44,931 --> 01:04:46,523
we labelled it as controversial.
1316
01:04:46,553 --> 01:04:50,807
Most of that report consisted of
words and pictures of the senator.
1317
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:54,947
At the time we told the senator that if he
feels that we have done violence to his
1318
01:04:54,948 --> 01:04:58,222
words or pictures, and he
wishes to speak, to answer himself,
1319
01:04:58,223 --> 01:05:00,727
...an opportunity would be
afforded him on this program.
1320
01:05:01,036 --> 01:05:05,447
The senator sought that opportunity,
asked for a three-week delay because he
1321
01:05:05,448 --> 01:05:08,507
said he was very busy and wished
adequate time to prepare his reply.
1322
01:05:08,867 --> 01:05:09,867
We agreed.
1323
01:05:10,110 --> 01:05:14,147
We placed no restrictions on the method or
manner of the presentation of his reply
1324
01:05:14,148 --> 01:05:17,667
and suggested that we would not
take time for comment on this program.
1325
01:05:18,403 --> 01:05:22,267
Here now is Senator Joseph R.
McCarthy, junior senator from Wisconsin.
1326
01:05:24,147 --> 01:05:25,147
Good evening.
1327
01:05:25,663 --> 01:05:27,230
Mr. Edward R. Murrow,
1328
01:05:27,263 --> 01:05:32,507
educational director of the Columbia
Broadcasting System, devoted his
1329
01:05:32,508 --> 01:05:36,467
program to an attack on the work of the
United States Senate Investigating
1330
01:05:36,468 --> 01:05:39,647
Committee and on me personally as its
chairman.
1331
01:05:39,890 --> 01:05:42,710
Now ordinarily, ordinarily
I would not take time out
1332
01:05:42,711 --> 01:05:46,487
from the important work
at hand to answer Murrow.
1333
01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:52,603
However, in this case, I feel justified in doing
so because Murrow is a symbol.
1334
01:05:53,070 --> 01:05:58,287
The leader, and the cleverest
of the jackal pack which is
1335
01:05:58,288 --> 01:06:04,353
always found at the throat of anyone who dares
to expose individual communists and treacheries.
1336
01:06:05,476 --> 01:06:10,443
I am compelled by the fact to say to you
that Mr. Edward R. Murrow,
1337
01:06:10,863 --> 01:06:17,948
as far back as 20 years ago, was
engaged in propaganda for communist causes.
1338
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,398
For example, the Institute of
International Education.
1339
01:06:22,076 --> 01:06:29,147
...of which he was the acting director,
was chosen to act as a representative by a
1340
01:06:29,148 --> 01:06:36,808
Soviet agency to do a job which would
normally be done by the Russian secret police.
1341
01:06:36,833 --> 01:06:40,983
Now Mr. Murrow, by his own admission,
was a member of the IWW, that's the
1342
01:06:41,008 --> 01:06:45,487
Industrial Workers of the World,
a terrorist organization cited as
1343
01:06:45,512 --> 01:06:48,651
subversive by an Attorney
General of the United States.
1344
01:06:49,449 --> 01:06:55,363
Now Mr. Murrow said in this program,
and I quote, he said "the actions of the
1345
01:06:55,388 --> 01:07:02,587
junior senator from Wisconsin have given
considerable comfort to the enemy."
1346
01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:07,227
That is the language of our statute of
treason, a rather strong language.
1347
01:07:08,003 --> 01:07:13,187
If I am giving comfort to our enemies,
I ought not to be in the Senate.
1348
01:07:13,733 --> 01:07:17,767
If, on the other hand, Mr. Murrow is
giving comfort to our enemies,
1349
01:07:18,396 --> 01:07:21,751
he ought not to be brought
into the homes of millions
1350
01:07:21,752 --> 01:07:24,707
of Americans by the
Columbia Broadcasting System.
1351
01:07:25,143 --> 01:07:29,847
But this is a question, which can be
resolved with...
1352
01:07:32,747 --> 01:07:35,647
I have to go to
Philadelphia in the morning.
1353
01:07:36,967 --> 01:07:38,247
What time is your train?
1354
01:07:38,987 --> 01:07:39,987
Uh, eight.
1355
01:07:40,457 --> 01:07:41,707
Is Charlie going with you?
1356
01:07:42,127 --> 01:07:43,127
Mm-hmm.
1357
01:07:48,836 --> 01:07:51,147
I don't...
1358
01:07:51,567 --> 01:07:52,567
Ah ...
1359
01:07:53,257 --> 01:07:56,867
want to say ... what I'm about to say.
1360
01:07:57,942 --> 01:07:58,782
Uh-oh.
1361
01:07:58,807 --> 01:07:59,287
Yeah.
1362
01:07:59,657 --> 01:08:00,767
You want a divorce.
1363
01:08:01,937 --> 01:08:02,547
No.
1364
01:08:02,887 --> 01:08:03,887
Do you?
1365
01:08:05,636 --> 01:08:09,227
depends on what
you're about to say.
1366
01:08:09,916 --> 01:08:15,307
Just keep having this nagging thought that
we might be wrong.
1367
01:08:16,367 --> 01:08:17,327
About what?
1368
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:21,053
Well ... there are communists here.
1369
01:08:21,107 --> 01:08:21,587
Yes.
1370
01:08:21,612 --> 01:08:24,047
and they don't always have
our best interests at heart.
1371
01:08:24,072 --> 01:08:24,708
Probably not.
1372
01:08:24,733 --> 01:08:25,189
Yeah.
1373
01:08:25,214 --> 01:08:29,474
- Does McCarthy?
- Well, the argument could be made.
1374
01:08:30,963 --> 01:08:32,164
And it's for the greater good.
1375
01:08:33,723 --> 01:08:34,723
That's one argument.
1376
01:08:35,020 --> 01:08:38,620
- Like, Alger Hiss was...
- Alger Hiss had a trial.
1377
01:08:39,206 --> 01:08:41,716
Alger Hiss faced his accusers.
1378
01:08:42,827 --> 01:08:43,867
And he went to jail.
1379
01:08:43,892 --> 01:08:44,892
That's right.
1380
01:08:45,486 --> 01:08:46,486
That's how this works.
1381
01:08:51,973 --> 01:08:56,373
So we're not going to look back
and say we protected the wrong side?
1382
01:08:58,807 --> 01:08:59,807
You're right, Joe.
1383
01:09:00,067 --> 01:09:01,067
Yeah?
1384
01:09:03,246 --> 01:09:04,246
I want a divorce.
1385
01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:07,700
Yeah, I wouldn't blame you.
1386
01:09:09,736 --> 01:09:11,406
When did you start smoking?
1387
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:13,719
Fifteen minutes ago.
1388
01:09:17,157 --> 01:09:17,837
Good evening.
1389
01:09:18,557 --> 01:09:23,096
Last week, Senator McCarthy appeared on
this program to correct any errors he
1390
01:09:23,121 --> 01:09:25,977
might have thought we made
in our report of March 9th.
1391
01:09:26,213 --> 01:09:29,178
Since he made no reference
to any statements of fact,
1392
01:09:29,179 --> 01:09:32,397
we must conclude that
he found no errors of fact.
1393
01:09:33,076 --> 01:09:38,337
He proved once again that anyone who
exposes him, anyone who does not share his
1394
01:09:38,338 --> 01:09:42,276
hysterical disregard to decency and human
dignity and the rights guaranteed in the
1395
01:09:42,301 --> 01:09:46,397
Constitution must be either a
communist or a fellow traveler.
1396
01:09:47,149 --> 01:09:48,430
I fully expected this treatment.
1397
01:09:49,436 --> 01:09:53,131
The senator added this reporter's
name to a long list of individuals and
1398
01:09:53,156 --> 01:09:56,637
institutions that he has accused of
serving the communist cause.
1399
01:09:57,186 --> 01:09:59,666
His proposition is a very simple one.
1400
01:09:59,958 --> 01:10:04,596
Anyone who criticizes or opposes
McCarthy's methods must be a communist.
1401
01:10:04,926 --> 01:10:08,238
And if that be true, there are an awful
lot of communists in this country.
1402
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:12,613
For the record, let us consider briefly
some of the senator's charges.
1403
01:10:13,283 --> 01:10:17,511
He claimed, but offered no proof, that I was a
member of the industrial workers of the world.
1404
01:10:17,536 --> 01:10:18,536
That is false.
1405
01:10:18,879 --> 01:10:20,866
I never was a member of the IWW.
1406
01:10:21,130 --> 01:10:22,291
Never applied for membership.
1407
01:10:23,003 --> 01:10:27,253
The senator charged that Professor Harold
Lasky, a British scholar and politician,
1408
01:10:27,476 --> 01:10:28,396
dedicated a book to me.
1409
01:10:28,443 --> 01:10:29,130
That is true.
1410
01:10:29,437 --> 01:10:30,437
He is dead.
1411
01:10:30,602 --> 01:10:31,440
He was a socialist.
1412
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:32,510
I am not.
1413
01:10:32,676 --> 01:10:36,696
He was one of those civilized individuals
who didn't insist upon agreement with
1414
01:10:36,727 --> 01:10:40,452
political principles as a precondition for
friendship or conversation.
1415
01:10:40,898 --> 01:10:42,873
I don't agree with his political ideas.
1416
01:10:43,453 --> 01:10:47,263
Lasky, as he makes clear in the
introduction, dedicated the book to me not
1417
01:10:47,288 --> 01:10:51,457
because of political agreement,
but because he held my wartime broadcasts
1418
01:10:51,482 --> 01:10:52,563
from London in high regard.
1419
01:10:53,353 --> 01:10:54,503
And the dedication so reads.
1420
01:10:55,557 --> 01:10:59,873
I believe 20 years ago and I believe today
that mature Americans can engage in
1421
01:10:59,898 --> 01:11:03,737
conversation, controversy, a clash of
ideas with communists anywhere in the
1422
01:11:03,738 --> 01:11:06,277
world without becoming
contaminated or converted.
1423
01:11:06,671 --> 01:11:10,670
I believe that our faith, our conviction,
our determination are stronger than theirs.
1424
01:11:10,881 --> 01:11:12,170
And that we can compete.
1425
01:11:12,195 --> 01:11:16,977
And successfully, not only in the area of
bombs, but in the area of ideas.
1426
01:11:17,979 --> 01:11:21,096
I have worked for CBS for 19 years.
1427
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:27,891
The company has subscribed fully to my integrity
as a broadcaster and as a loyal American.
1428
01:11:28,917 --> 01:11:32,059
I require no lectures from the junior
senator from Wisconsin.
1429
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:38,210
Having searched my conscience and my files, I cannot
contend that I have always been right or wise.
1430
01:11:38,235 --> 01:11:41,033
But I have attempted to pursue
the truth with some diligence.
1431
01:11:41,058 --> 01:11:42,216
And to report it.
1432
01:11:42,241 --> 01:11:46,306
Even though, as in this case, I had been
warned in advance that I would be
1433
01:11:46,331 --> 01:11:48,763
subjected to the attentions
of Senator McCarthy.
1434
01:11:49,488 --> 01:11:53,069
We should hope to deal with matters of
more vital interest to the country next week.
1435
01:11:53,094 --> 01:11:54,716
Good night and good luck.
1436
01:12:17,857 --> 01:12:18,857
Good morning.
1437
01:12:19,957 --> 01:12:21,237
How are you feeling?
1438
01:12:21,497 --> 01:12:21,957
How am I?
1439
01:12:22,337 --> 01:12:23,577
How are you feeling?
1440
01:12:23,947 --> 01:12:25,357
What time did you leave last night?
1441
01:12:25,557 --> 01:12:26,517
She didn't leave last night.
1442
01:12:26,518 --> 01:12:28,477
I didn't leave this morning.
1443
01:12:29,277 --> 01:12:30,717
Oh, it's just this today.
1444
01:12:31,357 --> 01:12:32,357
Oh, just this?
1445
01:12:32,497 --> 01:12:33,497
Just this, ma'am.
1446
01:12:35,176 --> 01:12:39,192
♪ Somewhere there's music. ♪
1447
01:12:39,217 --> 01:12:40,776
♪ How faint the tune. ♪
1448
01:12:41,462 --> 01:12:44,163
♪ Somewhere there's heaven. ♪
1449
01:12:44,756 --> 01:12:46,416
♪ How high the moon. ♪
1450
01:12:48,189 --> 01:12:49,932
Ah. What time are we going to today?
1451
01:12:50,536 --> 01:12:53,456
Oh, uh, I'll get back to you in a minute.
1452
01:12:54,877 --> 01:12:55,877
We'll be here.
1453
01:12:57,076 --> 01:13:02,070
In the last analysis, the senator was
perched on the television high dive and
1454
01:13:02,101 --> 01:13:04,672
all prepared to make a resounding splash.
1455
01:13:05,063 --> 01:13:11,393
He jumped beautifully, but neglected to
check first where he was going to land.
1456
01:13:12,307 --> 01:13:14,936
It must have been something
of a shock to discover
1457
01:13:14,961 --> 01:13:17,701
that Mr. Murrow had drained
the water out of the pool.
1458
01:13:19,620 --> 01:13:20,460
Jack Pool.
1459
01:13:20,485 --> 01:13:20,993
The Times?
1460
01:13:21,018 --> 01:13:22,018
Yeah, the Times.
1461
01:13:24,008 --> 01:13:25,223
Hell of a writer.
1462
01:13:25,531 --> 01:13:26,756
We should hire him away from the Times.
1463
01:13:26,781 --> 01:13:32,540
Yeah, well, uh, CBS has got a public opinion
survey here that, uh, Elmo Roper put together.
1464
01:13:32,565 --> 01:13:32,985
Uh-oh.
1465
01:13:33,323 --> 01:13:33,963
Says...
1466
01:13:34,286 --> 01:13:38,513
33% of all households believe
McCarthy proved you're a commie.
1467
01:13:38,677 --> 01:13:38,997
Huh?
1468
01:13:39,122 --> 01:13:40,482
Only 33%?
1469
01:13:40,507 --> 01:13:42,487
Listen, listen, listen, listen,
listen, listen.
1470
01:13:44,943 --> 01:13:47,667
The Senate is investigating McCarthy.
1471
01:13:49,506 --> 01:13:50,506
Hey!
1472
01:13:54,007 --> 01:13:54,423
Oh!
1473
01:13:54,460 --> 01:13:55,020
Got him.
1474
01:13:55,467 --> 01:13:56,467
Oh!
1475
01:14:01,613 --> 01:14:04,395
Oh, oh, you'll be all right, Palmer.
1476
01:14:04,420 --> 01:14:05,480
Palmer!
1477
01:14:06,008 --> 01:14:07,008
You'll be all right.
1478
01:14:10,483 --> 01:14:12,767
The Senate is investigating McCarthy.
1479
01:14:12,873 --> 01:14:14,370
We're up there with Howdy Doody.
1480
01:14:14,395 --> 01:14:15,395
Hold on, Ed.
1481
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:23,140
♪ Somewhere there's music. ♪
1482
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:28,476
♪ How faint the tune. ♪
1483
01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:34,919
♪ Somewhere there's heaven. ♪
1484
01:14:34,944 --> 01:14:41,796
♪ How high the moon. ♪
1485
01:14:42,717 --> 01:14:50,027
♪ There is no moon above. ♪
1486
01:14:50,753 --> 01:14:58,223
♪ When love is far away, too. ♪
1487
01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:06,733
♪ Until it comes true. ♪
1488
01:15:07,773 --> 01:15:19,176
♪ That you love me as I love you. ♪
1489
01:15:19,896 --> 01:15:25,133
One of the best programs I ever heard was
called CBS Views the Press.
1490
01:15:25,330 --> 01:15:27,250
A great many people liked it, some didn't.
1491
01:15:27,869 --> 01:15:29,969
But no one would say it was anything but
honest.
1492
01:15:30,198 --> 01:15:32,436
It was the work of an honest reporter,
Don Hollenbeck.
1493
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,521
He also worked occasionally on See It Now.
1494
01:15:35,509 --> 01:15:37,963
He did the 11 P.M.
news over some of these stations.
1495
01:15:38,989 --> 01:15:41,529
He'd been sick lately and he died this
morning.
1496
01:15:42,396 --> 01:15:43,856
The police said it was suicide.
1497
01:15:44,964 --> 01:15:45,964
Gas.
1498
01:15:46,944 --> 01:15:48,004
Not much of an obit.
1499
01:15:49,104 --> 01:15:51,364
But at least we got our
facts straight and it was brief.
1500
01:15:52,372 --> 01:15:54,213
And that's all Don
Hollenbeck would have asked.
1501
01:15:55,584 --> 01:15:56,584
Good night.
1502
01:15:57,064 --> 01:15:58,064
And good luck.
1503
01:16:04,910 --> 01:16:09,279
♪ Until you will. ♪
1504
01:16:09,304 --> 01:16:13,233
♪ How still my heart. ♪
1505
01:16:13,258 --> 01:16:19,200
♪ How high the moon. ♪
1506
01:16:39,907 --> 01:16:40,907
Son of a bitch.
1507
01:17:21,413 --> 01:17:22,224
See It Now.
1508
01:17:24,203 --> 01:17:24,804
Uh, yeah.
1509
01:17:25,009 --> 01:17:26,400
Circulate that memo to 41.
1510
01:17:27,524 --> 01:17:28,083
Yeah.
1511
01:17:28,204 --> 01:17:29,204
Circulate to Stanton.
1512
01:17:29,584 --> 01:17:30,584
Circulate to SIG.
1513
01:17:31,053 --> 01:17:32,804
Um, everybody gets that memo.
1514
01:17:32,924 --> 01:17:33,550
Got it?
1515
01:17:35,464 --> 01:17:35,864
Yes.
1516
01:17:36,464 --> 01:17:37,464
Sunday, 4.30.
1517
01:17:37,504 --> 01:17:38,544
Will you start in with me?
1518
01:17:39,264 --> 01:17:39,664
Yes.
1519
01:17:39,744 --> 01:17:40,524
4:30 Sunday.
1520
01:17:40,664 --> 01:17:41,664
Good to see you, sir.
1521
01:17:42,264 --> 01:17:42,844
All right.
1522
01:17:43,104 --> 01:17:44,144
Have a good morning today.
1523
01:17:44,544 --> 01:17:44,944
Yep.
1524
01:17:44,945 --> 01:17:46,120
Have a good at least tomorrow.
1525
01:17:46,144 --> 01:17:46,404
Yep.
1526
01:17:46,405 --> 01:17:46,864
Thank you.
1527
01:17:47,064 --> 01:17:48,704
How many times do you want us to see you?
1528
01:17:49,394 --> 01:17:50,624
It's gonna be great, Charlie.
1529
01:17:50,714 --> 01:17:52,944
You're just so in tune with time together.
1530
01:17:52,964 --> 01:17:53,344
Joe.
1531
01:17:53,904 --> 01:17:54,904
Shirley.
1532
01:17:55,659 --> 01:17:56,670
Can I talk to you both?
1533
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:58,520
Let's use the editing room.
1534
01:18:03,410 --> 01:18:04,976
Billy, could you excuse us for a minute?
1535
01:18:05,001 --> 01:18:06,001
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1536
01:18:15,437 --> 01:18:16,437
Shirley.
1537
01:18:18,484 --> 01:18:19,484
How are you?
1538
01:18:21,684 --> 01:18:22,684
Fine, Fred.
1539
01:18:28,134 --> 01:18:29,814
Is there a problem, Fred?
1540
01:18:29,839 --> 01:18:31,200
I want to ask you both a question.
1541
01:18:32,654 --> 01:18:34,015
But I don't want you to answer it.
1542
01:18:35,834 --> 01:18:36,834
Just consider it.
1543
01:18:38,662 --> 01:18:40,186
I know you two are married.
1544
01:18:43,214 --> 01:18:45,154
Everyone knows.
That's not my question.
1545
01:18:47,944 --> 01:18:52,514
In the next few weeks, I have to lay a
couple of people off.
1546
01:18:54,380 --> 01:18:59,069
We're making some
significant cuts across the board.
1547
01:18:59,094 --> 01:19:05,194
I wanted you to know that because if you
have any intention in the near future of
1548
01:19:05,195 --> 01:19:11,915
starting a family, I would say to you that
you could save someone else from being fired.
1549
01:19:13,994 --> 01:19:19,880
I'm asking you to consider making this
decision a little easier.
1550
01:19:25,244 --> 01:19:26,813
I don't need an answer now.
1551
01:19:27,449 --> 01:19:28,889
Just think about it.
1552
01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:41,957
Well
1553
01:19:45,477 --> 01:19:46,477
Mrs. Werschba.
1554
01:19:49,650 --> 01:19:52,003
We're really going to
miss you around here, Joe.
1555
01:20:04,433 --> 01:20:05,896
Everybody knew.
1556
01:20:08,451 --> 01:20:12,771
Yeah, but the problem isn't simply that
you lost your sponsor.
1557
01:20:12,796 --> 01:20:15,717
- Even with Alcoa, See it Now still loses money.
- The fee is $50,000.
1558
01:20:15,744 --> 01:20:15,884
1559
01:20:15,885 --> 01:20:17,719
Last week's show we
did for less than the fee.
1560
01:20:17,744 --> 01:20:19,024
We'll find another sponsor.
1561
01:20:19,049 --> 01:20:20,399
$64,000 question.
1562
01:20:20,771 --> 01:20:26,051
Brings in over $80,000 in sponsors and it
costs a third of what you do.
1563
01:20:26,424 --> 01:20:29,179
Ed, I've got Tuesday night programming.
1564
01:20:29,204 --> 01:20:30,504
It's number one.
1565
01:20:30,505 --> 01:20:33,384
Because people just want to enjoy
themselves.
1566
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:35,819
They don't want a civics lecture.
1567
01:20:35,844 --> 01:20:37,024
What do you want, Bill?
1568
01:20:37,025 --> 01:20:43,125
Well, I don't want a constant stomachache
every time you take on a controversial subject.
1569
01:20:43,410 --> 01:20:45,566
That's a price you
have to be willing to pay.
1570
01:20:45,704 --> 01:20:46,704
Careful, Ed.
1571
01:20:48,203 --> 01:20:52,180
Let's walk very carefully
through these next few moments.
1572
01:20:54,974 --> 01:20:58,646
The content of what we're doing is more
important than what some sponsor in Cincinnati.
1573
01:20:58,671 --> 01:21:00,519
No, no no, what you're doing.
1574
01:21:00,544 --> 01:21:01,159
Not me.
1575
01:21:01,184 --> 01:21:02,319
Not CBS.
1576
01:21:02,344 --> 01:21:02,664
You.
1577
01:21:02,689 --> 01:21:03,624
CBS News.
See it now.
1578
01:21:03,664 --> 01:21:04,664
They all belong to you.
1579
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,093
Well, you wouldn't know it.
1580
01:21:06,152 --> 01:21:07,816
What, is it credit that you want?
1581
01:21:07,864 --> 01:21:10,584
I never censored a single program.
1582
01:21:11,390 --> 01:21:15,253
No, I kept our affiliates who just
wanted entertainment from us.
1583
01:21:15,346 --> 01:21:21,104
And I fought to keep our license with the
same politicians you were working to bring down.
1584
01:21:21,217 --> 01:21:23,237
And I never said no to you.
1585
01:21:23,404 --> 01:21:23,944
Not once.
1586
01:21:23,945 --> 01:21:25,806
I would argue that we have
done well by one another.
1587
01:21:25,831 --> 01:21:26,373
Never!
1588
01:21:26,435 --> 01:21:28,866
I would argue that this
network is defined by what the
1589
01:21:28,891 --> 01:21:30,686
NEWS department has accomplished.
1590
01:21:30,744 --> 01:21:35,210
I would also argue not saying no is not
the same as not censoring.
1591
01:21:36,202 --> 01:21:37,202
Really?
1592
01:21:38,704 --> 01:21:40,593
You should teach journalism.
1593
01:21:41,740 --> 01:21:43,026
Well, let me ask you this.
1594
01:21:43,170 --> 01:21:47,650
Why is it that you always refer to him as
the junior senator from Wisconsin?
1595
01:21:47,675 --> 01:21:49,615
Because he's the junior
senator from Wisconsin.
1596
01:21:52,124 --> 01:21:53,124
Not likely.
1597
01:21:54,507 --> 01:21:56,450
You taunt him, Ed.
1598
01:21:56,663 --> 01:21:58,844
Like a cat with a ball of string.
1599
01:22:00,243 --> 01:22:02,343
But now you see you've opened the door.
1600
01:22:02,874 --> 01:22:05,004
News with a dash of commentary.
1601
01:22:06,978 --> 01:22:10,698
What happens when it isn't Edward R. Murrow
1602
01:22:10,723 --> 01:22:11,904
minding the store?
1603
01:22:17,067 --> 01:22:18,228
What do you want to do, Bill?
1604
01:22:20,304 --> 01:22:23,684
I'm going to take your show
from half an hour to an hour.
1605
01:22:24,757 --> 01:22:26,617
But it won't be a weekly program.
1606
01:22:26,642 --> 01:22:28,604
And it won't be on Tuesday night.
1607
01:22:29,324 --> 01:22:30,324
When would it be?
1608
01:22:30,460 --> 01:22:32,956
Sunday afternoon.
1609
01:22:36,083 --> 01:22:37,243
How many episodes?
1610
01:22:37,864 --> 01:22:38,864
Five.
1611
01:22:44,110 --> 01:22:45,700
Why don't you just fire me, Bill?
1612
01:22:47,257 --> 01:22:50,360
I don't think it's what
either of us wants.
1613
01:22:52,983 --> 01:22:53,983
You owe me five shows.
1614
01:22:56,704 --> 01:22:58,833
You won't like the subject matter?
1615
01:22:58,858 --> 01:23:00,997
No, probably not.
1616
01:23:09,514 --> 01:23:11,314
He wants me to lay a few people off.
1617
01:23:15,020 --> 01:23:16,020
I'm sure.
1618
01:23:16,917 --> 01:23:20,960
Let's do the next show about
the downfall of television.
1619
01:23:23,013 --> 01:23:27,213
So if the Senate votes to censure
McCarthy, what happens then?
1620
01:23:28,314 --> 01:23:30,154
He sits in the back row.
1621
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,305
But they don't kick him out.
1622
01:23:32,330 --> 01:23:33,490
No, he stays.
1623
01:23:33,515 --> 01:23:36,434
He just loses all of his power.
1624
01:23:37,347 --> 01:23:38,807
He's already lost all of his power.
1625
01:23:40,254 --> 01:23:41,254
Right.
1626
01:23:42,150 --> 01:23:43,500
Now they just teach him a lesson.
1627
01:23:43,994 --> 01:23:44,994
Yeah.
1628
01:23:48,343 --> 01:23:51,633
They're moving, See It
Now, to Sunday afternoon.
1629
01:23:55,144 --> 01:23:56,144
Uh-oh.
1630
01:23:58,564 --> 01:23:59,564
How many episodes?
1631
01:23:59,764 --> 01:24:00,764
Five.
1632
01:24:05,126 --> 01:24:08,964
Well ... might as well go down swinging.
1633
01:24:10,384 --> 01:24:12,724
We'll do the story about the migrant farm
workers.
1634
01:24:12,749 --> 01:24:14,593
Make a couple of enemies.
1635
01:24:15,897 --> 01:24:18,337
The most trusted man
in America is Milton Berle.
1636
01:24:19,644 --> 01:24:20,644
See?
1637
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:23,140
Maybe you should have worn a dress.
1638
01:24:24,917 --> 01:24:26,557
My legs are too skinny.
1639
01:24:27,325 --> 01:24:28,490
Feel like a Scotch?
1640
01:24:28,724 --> 01:24:29,724
Scotch is good.
1641
01:24:30,379 --> 01:24:32,844
Did you know that Joe
and Shirley were married?
1642
01:24:33,123 --> 01:24:34,123
Sure.
1643
01:24:35,573 --> 01:24:37,023
Did everyone know?
1644
01:24:37,947 --> 01:24:38,947
Pretty much.
1645
01:24:40,024 --> 01:24:43,604
Mr. Cole, I meant to do
you no personal injury.
1646
01:24:43,684 --> 01:24:47,184
And if I did, I beg your pardon.
1647
01:24:47,673 --> 01:24:51,239
Let us not assassinate
this lad further, Senator.
1648
01:24:51,264 --> 01:24:52,824
But you've done enough.
1649
01:24:53,374 --> 01:24:57,096
Have you no sense of decency, sir?
1650
01:24:57,124 --> 01:25:01,944
At long last, have you left no sense of
decency?
1651
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,379
I know this hurts you, Mr. Wells.
1652
01:25:04,404 --> 01:25:05,173
Let's get the Scotch.
1653
01:25:05,198 --> 01:25:05,833
I'll say it.
1654
01:25:05,858 --> 01:25:09,704
Mr. Campbell, as a point of personal
privilege, I'd like to finish this.
1655
01:25:09,705 --> 01:25:11,664
Senator, I think it hurts you too,
sir.
1656
01:25:11,824 --> 01:25:12,824
I'd like to finish this.
1657
01:25:12,884 --> 01:25:17,284
Mr. McCarthy, I will not discuss this
further with you.
1658
01:25:17,324 --> 01:25:23,626
You have sat within six feet of me and
could have asked me about Fred Fisher.
1659
01:25:23,911 --> 01:25:25,880
You have seen fit to bring it out.
1660
01:25:26,083 --> 01:25:32,724
And if there is a God in heaven, it will
do neither you nor your cause any good.
1661
01:25:33,165 --> 01:25:35,466
I will not discuss it further.
1662
01:25:35,637 --> 01:25:37,999
I will not ask Mr. Cole anymore.
1663
01:25:38,024 --> 01:25:39,024
What does he say?
1664
01:25:39,170 --> 01:25:43,116
You, Mr. Chairman, may, if you will,
call the next witness.
1665
01:25:46,624 --> 01:25:49,470
Are there any questions to come from the
members of the chair?
1666
01:25:55,814 --> 01:26:00,954
I begin by saying our history
will be what we make of it.
1667
01:26:02,136 --> 01:26:04,914
If we go on as we are, then
history will take its revenge.
1668
01:26:06,010 --> 01:26:08,220
And retribution will not limp in catching
up with us.
1669
01:26:10,073 --> 01:26:14,640
Just once in a while, let us exalt the
importance of ideas and information.
1670
01:26:14,966 --> 01:26:20,304
Let us dream to the extent of saying that
on a given Sunday night, the time normally
1671
01:26:20,329 --> 01:26:26,913
used by Ed Sullivan is given over to a clinical
survey on the state of American education.
1672
01:26:28,153 --> 01:26:33,273
And a week or two later, the time normally
used by Steve Allen is devoted to a
1673
01:26:33,298 --> 01:26:35,718
thoroughgoing study of American policies
in the Middle East.
1674
01:26:37,981 --> 01:26:41,161
Would the corporate image of their
respective sponsors be damaged?
1675
01:26:41,799 --> 01:26:45,460
Would the stockholders rise
up in their wrath and complain?
1676
01:26:46,674 --> 01:26:49,954
Would anything happen other than a few
million people would have received a
1677
01:26:49,979 --> 01:26:53,776
little illumination on subjects that may
well determine the future of this country?
1678
01:26:56,128 --> 01:26:58,394
To those who say people
wouldn't look, they wouldn't be
1679
01:26:58,419 --> 01:27:04,813
interested, they're too
complacent, indifferent, insolent.
1680
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,660
I can only reply there is,
in one reporter's opinion,
1681
01:27:09,685 --> 01:27:12,164
considerable evidence
against that contention.
1682
01:27:12,189 --> 01:27:15,700
But even if they are right,
what have they got to lose?
1683
01:27:17,107 --> 01:27:20,047
Because if they are right, and these
instruments are good for nothing but to
1684
01:27:20,072 --> 01:27:26,163
entertain, and amuse, and insulate,
then the tube is flickering now.
1685
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,780
And we will soon see that
the whole struggle is lost.
1686
01:27:36,180 --> 01:27:38,053
One, a two, a three, a kick.
1687
01:27:38,094 --> 01:27:40,275
Ladies and gentlemen, here he is.
Fats Dominos.
1688
01:27:40,300 --> 01:27:41,574
Good evening, I'm Mike Wallace.
1689
01:27:41,714 --> 01:27:45,134
This is a program of fact, news,
information, and observation.
1690
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:45,940
Thank you very much.
1691
01:27:45,969 --> 01:27:47,655
Now is the time...
1692
01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:50,088
...to make real the promises of democracy.
1693
01:27:50,112 --> 01:27:52,405
Our goal is not the victory of might...
1694
01:27:52,429 --> 01:27:53,621
...from Dallas, Texas...
1695
01:27:53,645 --> 01:27:54,355
...but the vindication of right.
1696
01:27:54,379 --> 01:28:00,059
...the flash, apparently official,
President Kennedy died at 1 P.M.
1697
01:28:00,086 --> 01:28:01,639
- This is one small step ...
- Central Standard Time.
1698
01:28:01,664 --> 01:28:02,363
...for man
1699
01:28:03,250 --> 01:28:04,494
... one giant leap ...
1700
01:28:04,519 --> 01:28:06,403
Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me.
1701
01:28:06,428 --> 01:28:07,199
Sock it to me?
1702
01:28:07,259 --> 01:28:09,174
Ladies and gentlemen, the Beatles.
1703
01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:12,759
What happened here at Kent State University
to find a name.
1704
01:28:12,839 --> 01:28:13,859
The President's a crook.
1705
01:28:13,879 --> 01:28:14,699
Well, I'm not a crook.
1706
01:28:14,759 --> 01:28:17,760
- The Space Shuttle Challenger ...has exploded.
- Mr. Gorbachev ...
1707
01:28:17,932 --> 01:28:19,246
...teared down this wall.
1708
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,280
...it doesn't fit.
1709
01:28:20,334 --> 01:28:22,479
If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
1710
01:28:22,480 --> 01:28:23,875
They're supposed to be
married in three weeks.
1711
01:28:23,899 --> 01:28:25,533
What are you doing living with him?
1712
01:28:26,179 --> 01:28:28,913
You are not the father.
1713
01:28:29,379 --> 01:28:30,759
...weapons of mass destruction.
1714
01:28:30,972 --> 01:28:32,992
...get rolled by the Bush administration.
1715
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:34,179
...he's got him, he's got him.
1716
01:28:34,219 --> 01:28:36,686
...New York City, this is the World Trade Center.
1717
01:28:36,711 --> 01:28:38,423
... a big explosion has just occured.
1718
01:28:38,456 --> 01:28:40,371
...what exactly happened on 9-11...
1719
01:28:40,395 --> 01:28:42,779
...conspiracy theories continue
to saturate the Internet...
1720
01:28:42,780 --> 01:28:44,088
...a terrorist fist jab...
1721
01:28:44,112 --> 01:28:44,959
...he was wearing this tan suit...
1722
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,588
...for all you kids watching at home...
...Santa just is white...
1723
01:28:47,612 --> 01:28:48,319
...the big lie...
1724
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:49,788
...centers on Dominion voting system...
1725
01:28:49,812 --> 01:28:51,159
...companies called Dominion...
1726
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,638
...another in a series of stolen elections...
1727
01:28:53,662 --> 01:28:55,619
...President Biden has a photographic memory...
1728
01:28:55,620 --> 01:28:58,005
...he's totally focused...
very sharp in meetings...
1729
01:28:58,029 --> 01:28:59,859
- Forget about the evidence
- ...alternative facts to that...
1730
01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:03,959
...FBI operatives were organizing the
attack on the Capitol...
1731
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:07,155
...FBI had 26 of their
people on the inside...
1732
01:29:07,179 --> 01:29:08,559
...false flag operations...
1733
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:09,971
...seeing millions of dollars...
1734
01:29:09,995 --> 01:29:12,778
...NBC News agreed to
settle a defamation lawsuit...
1735
01:29:12,803 --> 01:29:15,979
...AP reporter was barred from an Oval Office event...
...also from Air Force One...
1736
01:29:15,980 --> 01:29:18,285
...has barred the Associated Press...
1737
01:29:18,309 --> 01:29:20,899
...inappropriate offenses...
...the CNN has retracted...
1738
01:29:20,900 --> 01:29:25,439
... a false story about a demokratic effort ...
...the Force is extremely dangerous...
1739
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:26,188
...to our democracy...
1740
01:29:26,212 --> 01:29:26,921
...it's extremely dangerous...
1741
01:29:26,945 --> 01:29:27,799
...to our democracy...
1742
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,771
...a democracy ...
...it's a crisis of democracy...
1743
01:29:29,795 --> 01:29:30,759
...racist...
1744
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,919
...disaffected...
...to kill the coronavirus...
1745
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,039
... fact checkers ...
... eating the pets ...
1746
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,759
...please raise your right hand and repeat
after me...
1747
01:30:12,765 --> 01:30:18,356
These instruments can teach…
...they can illuminate...
1748
01:30:19,183 --> 01:30:24,529
They can even inspire...
but they can do so only to the
1749
01:30:24,530 --> 01:30:27,723
extent that humans are determined to use
them to those ends.
1750
01:30:28,570 --> 01:30:32,420
Otherwise ... they're merely
wires and lights in a box.
1751
01:30:34,579 --> 01:30:43,209
There is a great ... and perhaps decisive
battle to be fought ... against ignorance,
1752
01:30:44,709 --> 01:30:45,586
intolerance,
1753
01:30:47,275 --> 01:30:48,383
indifference.
1754
01:30:51,579 --> 01:30:54,243
It's a fight for the very
soul of this republic.
1755
01:30:56,799 --> 01:30:58,850
And so the question is a very simple one.
1756
01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:03,170
Not what power unchecked can do.
1757
01:31:03,519 --> 01:31:05,373
We have seen that answer.
1758
01:31:06,630 --> 01:31:07,630
No.
1759
01:31:09,469 --> 01:31:11,130
The question is...
1760
01:31:12,605 --> 01:31:14,690
what are you prepared to do?
1761
01:31:42,009 --> 01:31:43,769
The fault, dear Brutus ...
1762
01:31:53,455 --> 01:31:54,455
Good night.
1763
01:31:55,102 --> 01:31:56,102
And good luck.
1764
01:31:58,887 --> 01:32:06,127
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1765
01:33:17,049 --> 01:33:20,969
You've been watching an exclusive live
production of Broadway Play Good Night and
1766
01:33:20,970 --> 01:33:23,569
Good Luck starring George Clooney here on
CNN.
1767
01:33:23,909 --> 01:33:26,969
The first time that Broadway Play has been
broadcast live around the world.
1768
01:33:27,029 --> 01:33:30,469
You can see the cast still up on the
stage, including George Clooney,
1769
01:33:30,529 --> 01:33:33,109
who was Tony-nominated for his performance
in this production.
1770
01:33:33,429 --> 01:33:35,229
We're going to speak to some of them
shortly.
1771
01:33:35,389 --> 01:33:35,949
I'm Anderson Cooper.
1772
01:33:36,129 --> 01:33:40,049
Welcome to our post-show special,
Good Night and Good Luck, Truth and Power.
1773
01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:43,449
We're about a mile away from the Winter
Garden Theater with a live studio audience
1774
01:33:43,450 --> 01:33:45,770
of journalism and
communications students and
1775
01:33:45,771 --> 01:33:48,310
professors, all of whom
watched tonight's performance.
1776
01:33:48,834 --> 01:33:52,269
The world of journalism and media that
they are studying and may soon enter is
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vastly different in many ways than
Murrow's day.
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But there are, of course, parallels to
what Murrow has done.
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Murrow faced as well.
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I'm joined here by a panel
of renowned journalists and
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writers from the world of
television, newspapers and podcasts.
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I'll also talk exclusively with the former
anchor of the CBS Evening News and the
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longtime 60 Minutes correspondent,
Scott Kelly, about why he says journalism
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is under attack and about CBS's ongoing
legal battle with President Trump.
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With me right now, Walter Isaacson,
professor of history at Tulane University,
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former CEO of CNN.
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He actually hired me.
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He's also the author of numerous best-selling books
about Leonardo da Vinci, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk.
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And others.
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Also here, Connie Chung, former co-anchor
of the CBS Evening News.
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She was also an anchor here at CNN as well
as ABC and NBC News.
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She's the author of the book Connie and
Miriam's.
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