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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:36,050 Okay, you want to just lay this down? 2 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:37,320 Ready when you are. 3 00:00:37,726 --> 00:00:38,726 I'm ready. 4 00:00:39,420 --> 00:00:40,686 Are you recording? 5 00:00:43,742 --> 00:00:44,723 I am now. 6 00:00:48,956 --> 00:00:56,133 ♪ When I fall in love. ♪ 7 00:00:56,550 --> 00:01:02,350 ♪ It will be forever. ♪ 8 00:01:03,676 --> 00:01:15,019 ♪ Or I'll never fall in love. ♪ 9 00:01:19,310 --> 00:01:27,338 ♪ In a restless world like this is ♪ 10 00:01:27,362 --> 00:01:33,709 ♪ Love is ended before it's begun. ♪ 11 00:01:33,743 --> 00:01:36,844 ♪ And too many ♪ 12 00:01:36,869 --> 00:01:40,771 ♪ moonlight kisses ♪ 13 00:01:40,795 --> 00:01:49,233 ♪ seem to cool in the warmth of the sun. ♪ 14 00:01:49,622 --> 00:01:54,613 ♪ When I give my heart ♪ 15 00:01:56,860 --> 00:02:01,868 ♪ it will be completely ♪ 16 00:02:03,785 --> 00:02:13,170 ♪ or I'll never give my heart ♪ 17 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:23,855 ♪ and the momement I can feel that ♪ 18 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:30,350 ♪ you feel that way too ♪ 19 00:02:30,703 --> 00:02:41,730 ♪ is when I fall in love with you. 20 00:02:52,590 --> 00:03:02,910 ♪ or I'll never fall in love ♪ 21 00:03:06,303 --> 00:03:13,760 ♪ and the moment I can feel that ♪ 22 00:03:13,799 --> 00:03:20,230 ♪ you feel that way too ♪ 23 00:03:20,765 --> 00:03:34,436 ♪ is when I fall in love with you. ♪ 24 00:04:02,869 --> 00:04:04,809 This just might do nobody any good. 25 00:04:06,416 --> 00:04:09,682 At the end of this discourse, a few people may accuse 26 00:04:09,707 --> 00:04:13,190 this reporter of fouling his own comfortable nest. 27 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:20,006 And you all may be accused of giving hospitality to heretical and even dangerous thoughts. 28 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,106 It is my desire, if not my duty, to try to speak to you with some candor. 29 00:04:25,750 --> 00:04:28,749 about what is happening in our mass media. 30 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:34,523 You should know at the outset that I appear here voluntarily, by invitation. 31 00:04:35,380 --> 00:04:38,853 And that these remarks are strictly of a do-it-yourself nature. 32 00:04:39,730 --> 00:04:44,811 If what I have to say is responsible, I alone am responsible for the saying of it. 33 00:04:45,700 --> 00:04:50,316 I've decided to express my concern on the manner in which we inform ourselves. 34 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,420 I am seized by an abiding fear of what these instruments 35 00:04:54,421 --> 00:04:57,773 are doing to our society, our culture, our heritage. 36 00:04:59,330 --> 00:05:01,573 Our history will be what we make of it. 37 00:05:02,130 --> 00:05:07,750 And if any historians 50 to 100 years from now were to look, they would in there find 38 00:05:07,751 --> 00:05:14,546 evidence of decadence, escapism, and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live. 39 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,239 And surely we will pay a price. 40 00:05:18,565 --> 00:05:21,230 We are currently fat, comfortable, and complacent. 41 00:05:21,231 --> 00:05:25,265 We have a built-in allergy to unpleasant or disturbing information. 42 00:05:25,290 --> 00:05:30,830 But unless we get up off our fat assets and recognize that media in the main is 43 00:05:30,831 --> 00:05:38,455 being used to distract, delude, amuse, and insulate us, then those who 44 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,010 finance it, those who profit from it, those who work at it, and those who 45 00:05:43,035 --> 00:05:47,286 consume it, may see a totally different picture too late. 46 00:05:48,976 --> 00:05:49,976 Good evening. 47 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,665 Earlier tonight, Adlai E. 48 00:05:51,690 --> 00:05:56,845 Stevenson urged the United States to take the initiative in peace talks with the Soviet Union. 49 00:05:56,870 --> 00:06:00,370 The talks are aimed toward worldwide disarmament and assurances of 50 00:06:00,371 --> 00:06:03,325 non-aggression for the Russians as well as for the free world. 51 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:07,770 In a broadcast from his globe-circling tour, Stevenson warned the Eisenhower 52 00:06:07,771 --> 00:06:10,933 administration against shutting the door on conferences 53 00:06:10,934 --> 00:06:13,570 with the Soviet leaders and putting too much pressure... 54 00:06:13,595 --> 00:06:14,134 I'll be right down. 55 00:06:14,159 --> 00:06:16,150 ...on the uncommitted bloc of nations, not linked... 56 00:06:16,151 --> 00:06:18,970 Milli, this is the Annie Lee Moss footage from yesterday. 57 00:06:18,995 --> 00:06:20,265 Okay, I'll give it to Leo. 58 00:06:20,290 --> 00:06:22,263 Wait, it's only two cans? 59 00:06:22,370 --> 00:06:25,590 What? Oh ya, that's all it is, but there's some notes with it that go for Fred. 60 00:06:25,615 --> 00:06:27,256 Fred's in with the guys. 61 00:06:28,450 --> 00:06:30,125 Okay, I'll give the film to Leo. 62 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:31,706 You can go ahead and give the notes to Fred. 63 00:06:31,763 --> 00:06:33,065 [Speaking over each other] He's in the writer's room. 64 00:06:33,090 --> 00:06:34,370 Ya, thank you, Milli/Palmer. 65 00:06:37,933 --> 00:06:38,785 Hi, Joe. 66 00:06:38,810 --> 00:06:40,485 Shirley, what's going on in here? 67 00:06:40,510 --> 00:06:41,401 Hey, Palmer. 68 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:42,205 Hello, Palmer. 69 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:44,430 Uh, making some copies for the... Nothing. 70 00:06:44,431 --> 00:06:45,431 Just making sure. 71 00:06:45,950 --> 00:06:48,470 Two attractive people alone in a copy room. 72 00:06:48,495 --> 00:06:50,510 Ho ho ho'K, Palmer. 73 00:06:50,613 --> 00:06:54,230 I mean, I, ah, certainly won't say anything. 74 00:06:54,330 --> 00:06:55,660 Well, don't tell Fred. 75 00:06:55,685 --> 00:06:56,485 He'll fire me. 76 00:06:56,510 --> 00:06:58,050 Well, I mean, both of us. 77 00:06:58,140 --> 00:07:00,059 Shirley, it's the nepotism rule. 78 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:01,623 The nepotism rule. 79 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:03,370 You know, I think Joe would get the ax. 80 00:07:04,581 --> 00:07:05,061 Oh. 81 00:07:05,210 --> 00:07:08,595 Well, uh, rules would make to be broken. 82 00:07:08,620 --> 00:07:09,950 You can afford to say that. 83 00:07:09,951 --> 00:07:10,810 Oh, please. 84 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:13,059 Actually, Shirley, I think he's right. 85 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:13,890 What do you say? 86 00:07:13,950 --> 00:07:15,925 You want to, uh, get a drink tonight? 87 00:07:15,950 --> 00:07:18,625 Yeah, you're just a couple of guys trying to help. 88 00:07:18,656 --> 00:07:22,860 The day I need dating advice from you two knuckleheads is, uh... 89 00:07:22,885 --> 00:07:23,325 Ouch. 90 00:07:28,443 --> 00:07:29,596 Let me see this. 91 00:07:32,683 --> 00:07:33,683 I don't know. 92 00:07:34,690 --> 00:07:37,290 It's simply a loyalty oath. 93 00:07:37,315 --> 00:07:38,800 I mean, there's nothing in there about... 94 00:07:38,843 --> 00:07:39,790 To CBS? 95 00:07:39,911 --> 00:07:40,891 To America. 96 00:07:40,990 --> 00:07:43,150 - You promised to be a loyal... - All the reporters have it. 97 00:07:43,170 --> 00:07:44,190 Who are you promising? 98 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:45,045 Fred signed it. 99 00:07:45,090 --> 00:07:47,311 - CBS, Haley... - And Murrow. 100 00:07:48,590 --> 00:07:49,590 Murrow signed it? 101 00:07:50,219 --> 00:07:51,770 Murrow signed it. 102 00:07:52,896 --> 00:07:56,966 Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of these organizations... 103 00:07:56,991 --> 00:07:57,770 I've been at it for a while now. 104 00:07:57,830 --> 00:07:58,370 I just thought this was a joke at first. 105 00:07:58,371 --> 00:08:01,350 ...that appeared on the Attorney General's list of subversive groups? 106 00:08:01,390 --> 00:08:02,390 It's a lot of pressure. 107 00:08:03,043 --> 00:08:04,043 I don't know. 108 00:08:04,425 --> 00:08:06,060 All right. Let's think about this. 109 00:08:06,270 --> 00:08:07,270 What is it really saying? 110 00:08:07,690 --> 00:08:09,010 Is it a civil liberties issue? 111 00:08:09,090 --> 00:08:10,130 Is it censorship? 112 00:08:11,766 --> 00:08:12,850 I don't know. 113 00:08:12,875 --> 00:08:18,036 I mean, is it simply stating to CBS that I'm not a communist? 114 00:08:18,110 --> 00:08:19,050 Murrow signed it. 115 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:20,010 and Fred. 116 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,216 Maybe you should talk to Fred. 117 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,456 Well, I talked to Fred. 118 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,943 He told me to sign it. 119 00:08:25,010 --> 00:08:27,813 If you don't sign it, are you and I a target? 120 00:08:28,830 --> 00:08:30,890 If I don't sign it, they will fire me. 121 00:08:32,876 --> 00:08:37,436 Well, at least then we can tell everyone the truth. 122 00:08:40,723 --> 00:08:42,108 Okay. All right. 123 00:08:42,890 --> 00:08:43,890 Hey, they got the film? 124 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:44,690 Uh, yeah. 125 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:46,170 It's all queued up and ready to go. 126 00:08:46,430 --> 00:08:47,430 Oh, uh, Eddie. 127 00:08:47,530 --> 00:08:48,530 You're right. 128 00:08:48,670 --> 00:08:49,950 Went through that DC phone book. 129 00:08:50,190 --> 00:08:52,150 More than one Annie Lee Moss in there, right? 130 00:08:52,270 --> 00:08:52,590 Oh, yeah. 131 00:08:52,670 --> 00:08:53,230 A lot more. 132 00:08:53,231 --> 00:08:53,930 See, I told you. 133 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:54,710 All right. 134 00:08:54,711 --> 00:08:55,210 Here they are. 135 00:08:55,250 --> 00:08:55,630 Hey, Joe. 136 00:08:55,690 --> 00:08:56,470 We got it queued up. 137 00:08:56,570 --> 00:08:56,750 Okay. 138 00:08:56,830 --> 00:08:57,270 Hey, Fred. 139 00:08:57,310 --> 00:08:58,310 Do you want a cigarette? 140 00:08:58,430 --> 00:08:58,790 No. 141 00:08:58,930 --> 00:09:00,270 I'll just breathe the air. 142 00:09:02,830 --> 00:09:03,370 All right. 143 00:09:03,570 --> 00:09:03,930 Okay. 144 00:09:04,010 --> 00:09:04,470 Sounds good. 145 00:09:04,670 --> 00:09:05,670 All right. 146 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:07,150 Ready? 147 00:09:07,310 --> 00:09:07,630 Yeah. 148 00:09:07,650 --> 00:09:07,970 All right. 149 00:09:07,971 --> 00:09:08,050 All right. 150 00:09:08,780 --> 00:09:11,070 On this reel, this woman, Annie Lee Moss. 151 00:09:12,085 --> 00:09:16,410 This is the person McCarthy has spent two weeks claiming was a spy in the Pentagon. 152 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:19,790 Yeah, well, she was a clerk in the communications office. 153 00:09:21,215 --> 00:09:24,990 So, after all this buildup, she finally comes in. 154 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,370 McCarthy only asks her four questions, and he gets up and he leaves. 155 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:31,190 Wait, wait, wait. 156 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:32,300 He just left? 157 00:09:32,350 --> 00:09:34,690 Well, he realized he had nothing. 158 00:09:34,770 --> 00:09:36,690 So, uh, Leo, hit it. 159 00:09:37,970 --> 00:09:38,310 I'm sorry. 160 00:09:38,770 --> 00:09:44,350 And, uh, you say you personally did not know Robert Hall. 161 00:09:44,570 --> 00:09:44,970 No, sir. 162 00:09:45,150 --> 00:09:47,066 That you were not there when he came to the house. 163 00:09:47,090 --> 00:09:47,470 That's right. 164 00:09:47,985 --> 00:09:53,302 Uh, do you know what business Robert Hall had with your 165 00:09:53,303 --> 00:09:56,750 husband besides merely delivering the copy of the Daily Work? 166 00:09:56,990 --> 00:09:57,390 No, sir. 167 00:09:57,470 --> 00:09:57,830 I do know. 168 00:09:58,490 --> 00:10:01,750 Uh, I'm afraid I'm going to have to excuse myself. 169 00:10:01,810 --> 00:10:07,430 I've got, uh, a rather important appointment tonight, which I've got to 170 00:10:07,474 --> 00:10:10,313 work on right now, and I wonder if some of the others ... 171 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:12,870 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 172 00:10:14,723 --> 00:10:17,020 All right, look, and Charlie gets a shot of the empty chair. 173 00:10:17,283 --> 00:10:18,423 Chairman, uh... Right there. 174 00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:21,190 I have no further questions of this witness at this time. 175 00:10:21,630 --> 00:10:26,400 To say that we have the testimony of Mrs. Mosler, the undercover agent of the FBI, 176 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:30,930 stating that Annie Lee Mosler was a member, a douche-painter of the Communist 177 00:10:30,931 --> 00:10:35,310 Party, uh, the Northeast Public Communist Party... Leo, that's enough. 178 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:36,560 Turn it off. 179 00:10:36,750 --> 00:10:38,790 Oh, that Roy Cohn's a real charmer. 180 00:10:38,870 --> 00:10:39,770 Ed, Ed, did you see that? 181 00:10:39,790 --> 00:10:40,790 He just walked out. 182 00:10:40,850 --> 00:10:43,090 She is... not a spy. 183 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:43,950 You don't know that. 184 00:10:44,330 --> 00:10:46,270 Oh, I'll take the odds on it, Fred. 185 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,920 What do you think, Ed? 186 00:10:49,510 --> 00:10:50,630 You haven't made your case. 187 00:10:52,556 --> 00:10:53,556 He's lying. 188 00:10:54,150 --> 00:10:55,150 What's your proof? 189 00:10:56,270 --> 00:10:57,950 I think it's pretty obvious. 190 00:10:58,370 --> 00:11:00,090 Is that our standard now, what you think? 191 00:11:00,500 --> 00:11:04,270 McCarthy told the whole country he found the spy in the Pentagon, and it was her. 192 00:11:04,490 --> 00:11:05,490 Meaning what? 193 00:11:05,605 --> 00:11:07,990 I mean, Ed, does she look like a spy to you? 194 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:09,970 What does a spy look like, Palmer? 195 00:11:11,590 --> 00:11:12,810 He got up and left his own hearing. 196 00:11:12,811 --> 00:11:15,931 If she's not a spy and you have a story, until then you haven't made your case. 197 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:17,150 File it. 198 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,290 Okay, fellas, let's save it with the rest of the Senate footage. 199 00:11:20,530 --> 00:11:20,850 Thanks. 200 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:24,890 Fred, uh, did you guys look at the Secretary Stevens stuff yet? 201 00:11:24,891 --> 00:11:25,630 No, not yet, John. 202 00:11:25,690 --> 00:11:26,030 Not yet. 203 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:27,030 Just watch it to the end. 204 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:27,490 Well, John. 205 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:28,990 All the way to the end. 206 00:11:28,991 --> 00:11:29,750 Thank you, John. 207 00:11:29,770 --> 00:11:30,190 That's what it's worth. 208 00:11:30,370 --> 00:11:30,690 Thanks. 209 00:11:30,691 --> 00:11:31,691 Thanks. 210 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:35,650 That's pretty good stuff, Ed. 211 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:37,570 We spent any time in Detroit, Fred. 212 00:11:37,590 --> 00:11:39,470 We got 20 or so of these pieces filed. 213 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:41,330 There's a story here in the Detroit Free Press. 214 00:11:41,430 --> 00:11:42,430 Dexter, Michigan. 215 00:11:42,475 --> 00:11:44,290 Kid named Milo Radulovic. 216 00:11:44,330 --> 00:11:44,750 Italian? 217 00:11:45,070 --> 00:11:46,070 Irish. 218 00:11:46,510 --> 00:11:49,790 Air Force kicked him out because his dad read some Serbian newspaper. 219 00:11:50,530 --> 00:11:52,130 They called Milo a security risk. 220 00:11:52,630 --> 00:11:53,770 Is his dad a communist? 221 00:11:53,970 --> 00:11:54,210 I don't know. 222 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Who brought the charges? 223 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:56,170 The Air Force. 224 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,450 The charges were in a sealed envelope. 225 00:11:58,650 --> 00:11:59,410 Nobody saw them. 226 00:11:59,411 --> 00:12:00,750 Not even at the hearing? 227 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,210 He was declared guilty without a trial and told that if he wants to keep his job, 228 00:12:05,270 --> 00:12:08,610 he has to denounce his father and his sister, so he told them to take a hike. 229 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,360 His sister, huh? 230 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,596 Let's send Joe and Charlie down there, see if he's any good on camera. 231 00:12:14,620 --> 00:12:16,260 Is he being brought before the committee? 232 00:12:16,822 --> 00:12:17,222 No. 233 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,150 So, it's not McCarthy, isn't it? 234 00:12:26,643 --> 00:12:28,220 Milo Radulovic. 235 00:12:29,803 --> 00:12:31,860 Lieutenant Radulovic. 236 00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:33,620 Milo. 237 00:12:33,940 --> 00:12:34,620 Let me ask you this. 238 00:12:34,890 --> 00:12:39,337 What happens now to your two children, that is, your 239 00:12:39,338 --> 00:12:44,466 five-year-old and your five-month-old in terms of you? 240 00:12:45,056 --> 00:12:54,300 Yes. If I am being judged on my relatives, are my children going to be asked to denounce me? 241 00:12:54,380 --> 00:12:58,500 Are they going to be judged on what their father was labeled? 242 00:12:58,525 --> 00:13:06,065 Are they going to have to explain to their friends, etc., why their father was a security risk? 243 00:13:06,580 --> 00:13:12,086 I see absolutely that this is a chain reaction. 244 00:13:12,380 --> 00:13:19,186 If the thing is let's stand, as the first recommendation was sent out by the board, 245 00:13:19,470 --> 00:13:24,996 I see a chain reaction that has no end to anybody, for anybody. 246 00:13:26,396 --> 00:13:28,750 Well, that's new. 247 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,920 And I don't think you can call this a neutral piece. 248 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,300 Well, I think each other's side has been represented pretty well. 249 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:40,034 Hey, so you just want to forego the standards you've 250 00:13:40,134 --> 00:13:43,980 stuck to for over 15 years, both sides, no commentary. 251 00:13:44,013 --> 00:13:45,895 We all editorialize. 252 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:46,920 It's just a one thing. 253 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:50,041 Hey, hey, hey. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. 254 00:13:50,190 --> 00:13:54,339 I'm just making sure we identify what it is you're both doing. 255 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:56,020 I can't find any justification for this. 256 00:13:56,390 --> 00:14:00,360 I can't accept that on every story there are two equal and logical sides. 257 00:14:00,385 --> 00:14:02,220 You want to call that editorializing? 258 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,455 We'll give them equal time. 259 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,880 It is editorializing. 260 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,040 Period. 261 00:14:07,170 --> 00:14:09,960 Look, you understand the position you're putting us in. 262 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,546 We're all in it together. 263 00:14:11,780 --> 00:14:15,850 - If the Senate or the Air Force ask for it... - Fred, do me this favor. 264 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:21,196 Avoid any speeches about how we're all in a big boat together. 265 00:14:22,030 --> 00:14:23,620 Please don't insult me. 266 00:14:23,970 --> 00:14:28,260 Look, I have to go back to Alcoa, who sponsors your show and also has 267 00:14:28,261 --> 00:14:32,322 military contracts, and I got to tell them they might get caught 268 00:14:32,323 --> 00:14:36,620 in a tough bind because you had a beef with Joe McCartney. 269 00:14:36,820 --> 00:14:38,200 I'm not going at Joe McCartney. 270 00:14:38,201 --> 00:14:40,040 Well, you're starting a goddamn fire. 271 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:41,500 I know what this is, Ed. 272 00:14:41,501 --> 00:14:42,240 You guaranteed me. 273 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,805 This goes back to here and now. 274 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:47,120 You guaranteed that corporate would have no influence over news content. 275 00:14:47,180 --> 00:14:52,740 What I am saying is, please don't try to con me into thinking this will be good for me. 276 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,640 Just do me that courtesy. 277 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:57,040 I'm sorry, Mr. Paley, Mr. Murrow. 278 00:14:57,580 --> 00:14:59,500 Fred, there's a Colonel Anderson here to see you. 279 00:15:00,990 --> 00:15:03,560 - Okay, Shirley, where is he? - He's in your office. 280 00:15:04,513 --> 00:15:06,363 Sorry, gentlemen. 281 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,660 Maybe this guy loves the transcript and is here to congratulate me. 282 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,500 Go after Joe Kennedy. 283 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:18,760 We'll pay for it. 284 00:15:19,999 --> 00:15:22,729 I got a great story about Hoover. 285 00:15:23,337 --> 00:15:27,047 Do you know how many person-to-persons you'll have to do to make this up? 286 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:29,720 Oh, Judy and her daughter Liza next week. 287 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,360 No chance. 288 00:15:30,460 --> 00:15:34,580 You will be interviewing Lassie and then Mr. Ed back-to-back. 289 00:15:37,290 --> 00:15:38,540 290 00:15:40,010 --> 00:15:41,040 We probably won't either. 291 00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:42,810 Nobody will stop you. 292 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:43,900 How much are the ads? 293 00:15:44,020 --> 00:15:45,020 3,000. 294 00:15:45,630 --> 00:15:46,630 I'll split it with Fred. 295 00:15:47,340 --> 00:15:49,456 He just won't have Christmas presents for his kid this year. 296 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,480 He's a Jew. 297 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:51,480 Well... 298 00:15:51,620 --> 00:15:53,320 Don't tell Fred he loves Christmas. 299 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Colonel. 300 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:01,660 Mr. Friendly. 301 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Please. 302 00:16:04,013 --> 00:16:07,183 I trust you've had a chance to review the transcript? 303 00:16:08,439 --> 00:16:09,439 We have. 304 00:16:09,820 --> 00:16:11,620 But we've not been allowed to see the footage. 305 00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:13,350 We're still shooting it. 306 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,240 Charlie Mack is on a plane from Dexter with the last of the interviews. 307 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,120 We'll be going right down to the wire. 308 00:16:19,610 --> 00:16:20,610 Your show airs tomorrow. 309 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,620 How can we possibly comment on what we're being accused of? 310 00:16:23,621 --> 00:16:25,761 You haven't given us the foot... Colonel. 311 00:16:25,890 --> 00:16:32,956 With all due respect, you have been invited to comment on this piece not to approve this piece. 312 00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:35,860 We're going with the story that says that the U.S. 313 00:16:35,861 --> 00:16:40,660 Air Force tried Milo Radulovich without one shred of evidence and found him guilty 314 00:16:40,661 --> 00:16:44,000 of being a security risk without the constitutional right... 315 00:16:44,001 --> 00:16:46,161 And you have also not seen the evidence claim he's not. 316 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,400 Wouldn't you guess that the people that have seen the contents of that envelope 317 00:16:50,401 --> 00:16:53,450 might know a little more about what makes a person... 318 00:16:53,475 --> 00:16:54,935 - ...a danger to tihs country? - Who are these people? 319 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,380 Are they elected? 320 00:16:55,381 --> 00:16:56,536 Should it just be you that decides? 321 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,060 Appointed? 322 00:16:57,340 --> 00:16:58,520 Do they have an axe to grind? 323 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,700 Is it you, sir? 324 00:16:59,820 --> 00:17:02,420 Mr. Friendly... Do you even know the contents of that sealed envelope? 325 00:17:02,421 --> 00:17:06,610 We have been a friend and ally of Mr. Murrow and CBS News. 326 00:17:07,050 --> 00:17:10,266 The story you intend to air is without merit. 327 00:17:11,770 --> 00:17:20,321 Now, before you take steps that cannot be undone, I urge you to reconsider your stand. 328 00:17:21,420 --> 00:17:24,940 These are very dangerous waters you are attempting to navigate. 329 00:17:26,170 --> 00:17:27,480 Two minutes to air. 330 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,920 Damn it, Milli, unload that thing before I crack. 331 00:17:33,450 --> 00:17:34,980 A couple more seconds. 332 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,480 Right. 333 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,040 Okay, is Don ready for this? 334 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:40,705 I don't know. 335 00:17:40,730 --> 00:17:44,080 Tell him I front-loaded the opening with about five seconds extra. 336 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:45,840 Front-loaded five seconds. 337 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:46,820 Thank you, Milli. 338 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,980 Oh, Milli, tell Joe he's going to have to do the voiceover. 339 00:17:48,981 --> 00:17:49,640 Joe's on set. 340 00:17:49,820 --> 00:17:51,040 You tell him. 341 00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:53,340 We need a live mic on the floor. 342 00:17:53,341 --> 00:17:54,341 I'll get the mic set. 343 00:17:54,580 --> 00:17:55,020 Hi, Don. 344 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:56,260 It's front-loaded. 345 00:17:56,261 --> 00:17:56,560 How much? 346 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,860 By about five seconds. 347 00:17:57,940 --> 00:17:59,040 I said that's too much! 348 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,480 Okay, which piece is Joe going to do live? 349 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,280 His questions. 350 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:05,276 Why don't we try to sync it up with the whole show on air? 351 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:06,400 Yeah, Joe can do it live. 352 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,040 I hate this. 353 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:07,600 You love it. 354 00:18:08,010 --> 00:18:08,370 Fred? 355 00:18:08,395 --> 00:18:09,780 Fred, did you time Ed's intro? 356 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:10,720 I think we're going to be long. 357 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,880 Long is good, Don. 358 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:13,360 Remember, no commercial break. 359 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:13,983 Great. 360 00:18:14,305 --> 00:18:14,665 Great. 361 00:18:14,690 --> 00:18:15,690 I got to add two minutes. 362 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,000 Don, they're doing a commercial in the booth. 363 00:18:18,001 --> 00:18:18,460 What commercial? 364 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:19,700 We didn't have any commercial. 365 00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:21,460 Okay, now, Eddie, set up a mic. 366 00:18:21,540 --> 00:18:22,160 I got it, Don. 367 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:22,720 I got it. 368 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:23,680 Idiot out of the booth. 369 00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:23,980 Natalie. 370 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:24,660 Natalie. 371 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,440 Joe, it's too loud in here. 372 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:27,080 One minute. 373 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:27,580 Three. 374 00:18:27,620 --> 00:18:27,960 Okay. 375 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:28,660 Thank you. 376 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:30,500 We got the film. 377 00:18:30,820 --> 00:18:31,820 Will it be ready? 378 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,960 Yep. 379 00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:37,420 Funny thing, Freddy. 380 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,880 Every time you light a cigarette for me, I know you're lying. 381 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,340 We'll have it. 382 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:43,500 We'll have it. 383 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,640 What did the Colonel tell you yesterday? 384 00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:47,340 He wasn't too pleased. 385 00:18:47,620 --> 00:18:47,980 He wasn't too pleased. 386 00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:49,576 You're going to get audited this year. 387 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,060 Not me. 388 00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:50,680 You. 389 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,980 I told him I didn't want to do the piece. 390 00:18:54,353 --> 00:18:55,573 You always were yellow. 391 00:18:56,180 --> 00:18:57,180 Better than red. 392 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,520 20 seconds. 393 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,080 You know, it occurs to me we might not get away with this one. 394 00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:11,350 10 seconds. 395 00:19:15,076 --> 00:19:20,199 In 5, 4, 3, 2.... 396 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:27,230 Stand by now for See It Now with Edward R. Murrow. 397 00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:44,820 Alcoa, Aluminum Company of America, in cooperation with CBS Television, 398 00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:49,775 presents the distinguished reporter and news analyst Edward R. Murrow 399 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:57,580 in See It Now, edited and produced by Mr. Murrow and Fred W. Friendly. 400 00:19:57,980 --> 00:20:03,841 A weekly presentation of Aluminum Company of America, the nation's leading producer of aluminum. 401 00:20:04,996 --> 00:20:12,646 Now speaking to you from the control room of Studio 41 is the editor of See It Now, Edward R. Murrow 402 00:20:13,232 --> 00:20:14,232 Good evening. 403 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,820 A few weeks ago there appeared a few obscure notices in the newspapers about a 404 00:20:18,821 --> 00:20:23,000 Lieutenant Milo Radulovich, a lieutenant in the Air Force Reserves, and also 405 00:20:23,001 --> 00:20:26,500 something about Air Force Regulation 35-62. 406 00:20:26,501 --> 00:20:31,480 That is a regulation which states that a person may be regarded as a security risk 407 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:34,875 if he has close and continuing association with communists, 408 00:20:34,876 --> 00:20:37,160 or people believed to have communist sympathies. 409 00:20:37,885 --> 00:20:40,360 The lieutenant was asked to resign in August. 410 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,440 He declined. 411 00:20:41,650 --> 00:20:43,330 A board was called and his case was heard. 412 00:20:44,205 --> 00:20:47,640 At the end it was recommended that he be severed from the Air Force, although it 413 00:20:47,641 --> 00:20:51,740 was also stated that there was no question whatsoever as to the lieutenant's loyalty. 414 00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:56,380 We propose to examine insofar as we can the case of Milo Radulovich. 415 00:20:56,381 --> 00:20:57,760 Our reporter, Joe Worspa. 416 00:20:57,940 --> 00:20:58,940 Cameraman, Charlie Mack. 417 00:20:59,575 --> 00:21:01,820 This is the town of Dexter, Michigan. 418 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,020 Population, 1,500. 419 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,760 This is the story of Milo Radulovich. 420 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:08,360 No special hero, no martyr. 421 00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:12,400 He came to Dexter one year ago after ten years in the Air Force. 422 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:18,160 The Air Force does not question my loyalty in the least. 423 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,700 They have reiterated that on several occasions. 424 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:26,240 They have presented me with allegations against my sister. 425 00:21:26,241 --> 00:21:32,740 My sister and father, that they have, to the effect that my sister and dad have 426 00:21:32,865 --> 00:21:38,711 taken, have read what are now called subversive newspapers, 427 00:21:38,712 --> 00:21:44,260 and that my sister and father's activities are questionable. 428 00:21:45,220 --> 00:21:50,660 That's the specific charge or allegation, I prefer to call it, against them. 429 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:54,480 Lieutenant Radulovich was defended by attorney Charles C. 430 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,160 Lockwood, and this is the report on the hearing. 431 00:21:57,815 --> 00:22:00,860 The Air Force did not produce a single witness. 432 00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:03,780 We were not told who the accusers were. 433 00:22:04,450 --> 00:22:08,180 We had no right to confront them or to cross-examine them. 434 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:14,055 But at the conclusion of the trial, although we had met the allegations, 435 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:21,220 the Air Force made findings at the conclusion of the hearing that every single allegation was true. 436 00:22:22,225 --> 00:22:24,475 This is the sister, Margaret Radulovich Fishman. 437 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:27,140 She neither defends nor explains her political activities. 438 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:35,940 I feel that my activities, be they what they may or my political beliefs, 439 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,353 are my own private affair. 440 00:22:38,670 --> 00:22:46,520 And I feel that the charges leveled against me, and by reason of which they 441 00:22:46,521 --> 00:22:54,610 are trying to purge him from the army, are just, you know, seem to me to be a fantastic trend. 442 00:22:54,713 --> 00:22:56,413 in this country. 443 00:22:57,260 --> 00:23:02,020 Milo, I guess a lot of people must have asked you from time to time, wouldn't it 444 00:23:02,021 --> 00:23:04,961 have been a lot easier for you if you would have, 445 00:23:04,962 --> 00:23:07,581 well, just kept sort of quiet about the whole thing? 446 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:09,918 Maybe resigned and nobody would have known anything 447 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:12,241 about it, and all this trouble wouldn't have come to you? 448 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,660 Yes, that's right. 449 00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:19,657 I could have signed a resignation form, which was titled, 450 00:23:19,658 --> 00:23:23,600 a resignation in lieu of elimination from the service. 451 00:23:23,601 --> 00:23:27,746 And this would have given me an honorable discharge. 452 00:23:28,090 --> 00:23:31,800 However, the honorable discharge would have stipulated that I had, you know, 453 00:23:31,801 --> 00:23:36,860 been discharged because the Air Force could not trust me. 454 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:41,310 In other words, because I had been discharged as a security risk. 455 00:23:41,570 --> 00:23:43,076 And what happens to your two children? 456 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:46,460 That is, your five-year-old and your five-month-old in terms of you? 457 00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:50,915 Yes, if I am being judged on my relatives, if are my 458 00:23:50,935 --> 00:23:55,720 children going to be asked to, you know, to denounce me? 459 00:23:55,780 --> 00:24:00,436 Are they going to be judged on what their father was labeled? 460 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:07,421 Are they going to have to explain to their friends, etc., why their father is a security risk? 461 00:24:07,950 --> 00:24:13,600 I see absolutely that this is a chain reaction. 462 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,586 If the thing is let's stand as the first recommendation was sent out by the board, 463 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:22,300 I see a chain reaction. 464 00:24:22,301 --> 00:24:26,176 Five, four, three, two ... 465 00:24:27,230 --> 00:24:29,828 Perhaps you'll permit me to read a few sentences just at the 466 00:24:29,829 --> 00:24:33,036 end because I'd like to say rather precisely what we mean. 467 00:24:33,410 --> 00:24:36,900 We have told the Air Force that we will provide facilities for any corrections or 468 00:24:36,901 --> 00:24:40,806 criticisms it should like to make in the case of Milo Radulovich. 469 00:24:41,090 --> 00:24:45,340 We are unable to judge the charges against the lieutenant's father or sister because 470 00:24:45,341 --> 00:24:48,573 neither we, nor you, nor they, nor the lawyers know 471 00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:51,520 precisely what was contained in that Manila envelope. 472 00:24:51,521 --> 00:24:56,420 Was it hearsay, rumor, gossip, slander, or was it hard, ascertainable 473 00:24:56,421 --> 00:24:58,300 fact that can be backed by credible witnesses? 474 00:24:59,533 --> 00:25:00,553 We do not know. 475 00:25:00,985 --> 00:25:04,580 We believe the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father even if that 476 00:25:04,581 --> 00:25:07,883 iniquity be proved, and in this case it was not. 477 00:25:08,270 --> 00:25:11,720 But we also believe that this case illustrates the urgent need for the armed 478 00:25:11,721 --> 00:25:15,960 forces to communicate more fully than they have so far done the regulations and 479 00:25:15,961 --> 00:25:18,848 procedures to be followed in attempting to protect 480 00:25:18,849 --> 00:25:21,681 national security and the rights of the individual. 481 00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:26,200 In any case, whatever happens in this whole area of the relationship between the 482 00:25:26,201 --> 00:25:28,840 individual and the state, we will do it ourselves. 483 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:33,980 It cannot be blamed on Malenkov, or Mao Zedong, or even our allies. 484 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,395 And it seems to us, that is Fred Friendly and myself, that 485 00:25:37,396 --> 00:25:41,043 this is a subject that should be argued about endlessly. 486 00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:42,880 Good night, and good luck. 487 00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:48,420 Friday's Edward R. Murrow, person to person, on the CBS Television Network. 488 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,400 And we're out. 489 00:25:59,210 --> 00:26:00,730 Are we in for it, Freddie? 490 00:26:01,430 --> 00:26:03,090 I think we're fine. 491 00:26:08,396 --> 00:26:09,916 Oh, I like the sound of this. 492 00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:12,490 What's this tune? 493 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:14,810 Ah, all right. 494 00:26:18,031 --> 00:26:21,136 I sure hope I remember these words. It's been a while. 495 00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:22,890 Right here? 496 00:26:23,586 --> 00:26:26,086 ♪ I've got... ♪ 497 00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:28,633 ♪ my eyes on you. ♪ 498 00:26:28,939 --> 00:26:31,603 ♪ So best beware... ♪ 499 00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:33,790 ♪ where you roam. ♪ 500 00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:38,193 ♪ I... ♪ 501 00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:41,670 ♪ know, don't know the words. ♪ 502 00:26:42,370 --> 00:26:43,810 ♪ I thought I did. ♪ 503 00:26:44,456 --> 00:26:46,396 ♪ But... I don't... ♪ 504 00:26:46,590 --> 00:26:47,230 Lorraine! 505 00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:48,350 Incidentally. 506 00:26:48,655 --> 00:26:50,030 ♪ Incidentally, I... ♪ 507 00:26:50,270 --> 00:26:51,270 Thank you, Lorraine. 508 00:26:51,472 --> 00:26:55,018 ♪ ...set my spies on you. ♪ 509 00:26:55,043 --> 00:26:58,215 ♪ I'm checking on all you do... ♪ 510 00:26:58,239 --> 00:27:02,425 ♪ from A to Z. ♪ 511 00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:08,516 ♪ So, darling, just be wise. ♪ 512 00:27:08,596 --> 00:27:15,171 ♪ Keep your eyes... on... me. ♪ 513 00:27:15,196 --> 00:27:19,221 ♪ Keep your eyes... on... ♪ 514 00:27:19,246 --> 00:27:22,133 ♪ me. ♪ 515 00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:24,890 All right, let's take five. I've got to learn these words. 516 00:27:51,873 --> 00:27:54,120 Well that's all the room we had on the fence for it. 517 00:27:54,670 --> 00:27:55,800 Lee, how old are you? 518 00:27:56,410 --> 00:27:57,700 I'm 35, Ed. 519 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,533 Well, at 35, looking back at all that's happened, what comes to your mind first? 520 00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:06,280 Ed, I would say that... 521 00:28:06,990 --> 00:28:08,960 God has been very, very good to us... 522 00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:11,880 in making all of this happen to our family. 523 00:28:12,860 --> 00:28:14,360 And I suppose that... 524 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:16,740 nowhere but in the United States... 525 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:18,360 could... 526 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,000 this happen to an ordinary American family like ours. 527 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:24,180 I'm very grateful. 528 00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:27,540 Well, surely something must get under your skin once in a while, doesn't it? 529 00:28:28,180 --> 00:28:29,180 Well... 530 00:28:29,470 --> 00:28:32,780 about the only thing that bothers me is when people accuse me of... 531 00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:37,140 of having a following only of nice old ladies. 532 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,300 I have nothing against the nice old ladies, but... 533 00:28:40,650 --> 00:28:42,500 I like nice young ladies, too. 534 00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:46,545 Well, Lee, thanks so much for letting us come and visit you, 535 00:28:46,546 --> 00:28:49,061 and will you say good night to the rest of your family for us? 536 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:50,500 I certainly will. 537 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,460 Thanks so much. 538 00:28:51,461 --> 00:28:51,900 Thanks so much. 539 00:28:52,095 --> 00:28:52,920 Good night, Ed. 540 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Good night, Lee. 541 00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:57,119 Next week, we'll take you to Beverly Hills, California, 542 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,260 and the home of Mickey Rooney and his new bride. 543 00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:02,120 Until then, good night and good luck. 544 00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:04,300 And we're out. 545 00:29:10,883 --> 00:29:12,023 Good show, Ed. 546 00:29:19,363 --> 00:29:20,363 You saw that? 547 00:29:38,671 --> 00:29:39,671 Mr. Murrow? 548 00:29:41,923 --> 00:29:43,245 Uh, Mr. Murrow. 549 00:29:43,270 --> 00:29:46,010 Uh, Mr. Paley was wondering if you'd meet him for a drink. 550 00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:47,350 When? 551 00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:48,970 Uh, uh, now. 552 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,310 Um, he's at the Pensacom bar. 553 00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:51,930 What's he doing there? 554 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:53,650 You just call him, Shirley. 555 00:29:53,730 --> 00:29:54,070 Will you please call him? 556 00:29:54,071 --> 00:29:54,970 I'll let him know. 557 00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:56,010 Thank you. 558 00:29:58,530 --> 00:29:59,530 Hi, Don. 559 00:29:59,630 --> 00:30:00,630 Hi, Shirley. 560 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,960 You're getting good at this, Ed. 561 00:30:11,180 --> 00:30:12,460 They're gonna think you like it. 562 00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:13,940 Pays the bills. 563 00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:15,460 How are you, Don? 564 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,200 It's day to day. 565 00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:21,185 Well, if she saw how good you look right now, she'd be back. 566 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:22,730 Tell her that if you see her, will ya? 567 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,663 So I read the O'Brien piece. 568 00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:27,920 Yeah, it's pretty tough. 569 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,520 I'm a pinko. 570 00:30:30,170 --> 00:30:31,420 I slant the news. 571 00:30:31,896 --> 00:30:34,485 Just waiting for him to say my wife left me, too. 572 00:30:34,510 --> 00:30:36,260 Well, nobody worth their salt reads him. 573 00:30:37,033 --> 00:30:38,033 You read him. 574 00:30:38,410 --> 00:30:39,450 Well, see, I rest my case. 575 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,800 Does Paley read him? 576 00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:46,619 Bill Paley's not gonna do anything, Don. 577 00:30:47,490 --> 00:30:49,413 Listen, Ed, thanks. 578 00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:52,916 I just came over because I wanted to see how great the lieutenant piece was. 579 00:30:53,317 --> 00:30:53,637 580 00:30:53,837 --> 00:30:54,837 How's the fallout? 581 00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:56,157 Mostly good. 582 00:30:56,197 --> 00:30:57,197 Surprisingly. 583 00:30:57,226 --> 00:30:58,257 Is this the start? 584 00:30:58,477 --> 00:30:59,632 You taking sides? 585 00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:00,977 Just a little poke with a stick. 586 00:31:01,002 --> 00:31:02,002 See what happens. 587 00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:03,307 Well, let me know if I can help. 588 00:31:03,997 --> 00:31:05,257 But you're a pinko, Don. 589 00:31:05,837 --> 00:31:06,757 I'll see ya, Ed. 590 00:31:06,817 --> 00:31:07,157 Yeah. 591 00:31:07,727 --> 00:31:10,257 May I have your attention, please, on track one. 592 00:31:10,886 --> 00:31:13,476 The 830 train to New Haven has been canceled. 593 00:31:13,942 --> 00:31:15,917 We apologize for any inconvenience. 594 00:31:16,637 --> 00:31:17,637 Hey. 595 00:31:18,177 --> 00:31:18,657 Joe. 596 00:31:19,531 --> 00:31:22,657 What's all this Radwich junk you're putting out? 597 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,517 Oh, Don. 598 00:31:24,518 --> 00:31:27,257 I got nothing to say to you now. 599 00:31:27,383 --> 00:31:29,283 We just gotta get this film off to the lab. 600 00:31:30,136 --> 00:31:35,430 What would you say if I told you that Murrow was on the Soviet payroll in 1934? 601 00:31:39,497 --> 00:31:41,263 Uh, give us a sec, will ya, Charlie? 602 00:31:42,327 --> 00:31:42,807 Sure. 603 00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:44,603 I gotta use the head anyway. 604 00:31:47,627 --> 00:31:48,627 Hey, Joe. 605 00:31:49,047 --> 00:31:50,487 Watch yourself with this guy. 606 00:31:57,183 --> 00:32:00,093 Is, uh, McCarthy going to the 607 00:32:00,118 --> 00:32:01,317 Eisenhower dinner? 608 00:32:01,342 --> 00:32:04,597 No idea. I don't keep the Senator's calendar for him, Joe. 609 00:32:04,957 --> 00:32:05,957 Oh, really? 610 00:32:06,579 --> 00:32:08,019 This is a track change announcement. 611 00:32:08,417 --> 00:32:13,757 The 8:45 Northeast Corridor train to New York City will be arriving on track two. 612 00:32:17,266 --> 00:32:19,786 What? You don't watch any spy films, Donald? 613 00:32:21,017 --> 00:32:23,357 You can't just hand me a classified folder. 614 00:32:23,417 --> 00:32:26,477 You gotta slip it in my briefcase when I'm not looking. 615 00:32:26,899 --> 00:32:30,137 It's actually perfect. I didn't know who to give this information to. 616 00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:31,577 Paley or Murrow. 617 00:32:31,822 --> 00:32:34,622 As you can imagine, Fred and I aren't very friendly. 618 00:32:35,159 --> 00:32:36,159 No pun intended. 619 00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:38,637 No pun elocuted. 620 00:32:40,396 --> 00:32:41,396 Elocuted. 621 00:32:41,616 --> 00:32:43,996 Is that a word or did you just make that up? 622 00:32:44,983 --> 00:32:47,060 You boys and your words. 623 00:32:47,243 --> 00:32:50,526 Is Ed in New York right now memorizing a thesaurus? 624 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,217 Joe, what's another word for thesaurus? 625 00:32:54,386 --> 00:32:59,597 Oh, it must be awfully quiet at the Algonquin now that you're gone. 626 00:32:59,598 --> 00:33:02,137 Except for Harpo talking away. 627 00:33:02,577 --> 00:33:03,577 All right, Donald. 628 00:33:04,237 --> 00:33:05,237 What do you got? 629 00:33:05,536 --> 00:33:09,776 In short, Ed Murrow's been a communist sympathizer since the 1930s. 630 00:33:10,305 --> 00:33:12,230 Member of the Industrial Workers of the World. 631 00:33:12,589 --> 00:33:18,089 Sponsor of educational trips to Moscow and on the Soviet payroll in 1934. 632 00:33:18,817 --> 00:33:19,817 It's all there. 633 00:33:22,457 --> 00:33:23,957 Uh, you, uh... 634 00:33:26,353 --> 00:33:27,913 You wanna know why that's not possible? 635 00:33:28,913 --> 00:33:31,003 Or why you gonna lose this one, Donald? 636 00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:38,752 Because everybody in the country knows that if nothing else, Ed Murrow is a loyal American. 637 00:33:38,777 --> 00:33:39,777 He is a patriot. 638 00:33:40,867 --> 00:33:44,577 Did you know that the word gullible isn't in the dictionary, Joe? 639 00:33:45,037 --> 00:33:45,877 Can I give this to Ed? 640 00:33:46,117 --> 00:33:46,777 I'd like you to. 641 00:33:47,137 --> 00:33:48,137 I have copies. 642 00:33:49,956 --> 00:33:51,637 I think you guys go too far. 643 00:33:51,673 --> 00:33:58,477 Well, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a terrible shame. 644 00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:02,057 Murrow's brother being a general in the Air Force. 645 00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:04,417 What'd I miss? 646 00:34:06,617 --> 00:34:07,617 Nothing. 647 00:34:08,486 --> 00:34:10,776 Ed, Donald's just leaving. He's... 648 00:34:11,709 --> 00:34:13,863 got a hole to crawl back into. 649 00:34:14,728 --> 00:34:16,636 Give my best to Ed. 650 00:34:25,427 --> 00:34:26,027 Bill. 651 00:34:26,197 --> 00:34:27,197 Hello, Ed. 652 00:34:27,227 --> 00:34:28,227 How's Janet? 653 00:34:28,547 --> 00:34:29,367 How's your boy? 654 00:34:29,527 --> 00:34:30,327 Oh, well. 655 00:34:30,328 --> 00:34:30,947 How's babe? 656 00:34:31,226 --> 00:34:31,706 Fine. 657 00:34:32,267 --> 00:34:33,267 She's fine. 658 00:34:33,757 --> 00:34:35,927 Well, her fundraiser got rained on. 659 00:34:36,067 --> 00:34:37,627 Well, that's why I don't plan anything. 660 00:34:37,747 --> 00:34:38,067 Really? 661 00:34:38,527 --> 00:34:39,527 You wouldn't know it. 662 00:34:40,287 --> 00:34:41,287 Reading fiction? 663 00:34:41,312 --> 00:34:42,466 I hope. 664 00:34:43,307 --> 00:34:44,307 You tell me. 665 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,067 Well, we know how they're gonna come at us. 666 00:34:46,092 --> 00:34:47,739 That's just the first shot. 667 00:34:48,017 --> 00:34:49,762 Somebody will go down. 668 00:34:49,787 --> 00:34:51,107 Now, have you checked your facts? 669 00:34:51,151 --> 00:34:51,963 Are you on safe ground? 670 00:34:52,887 --> 00:34:53,707 Its time ... show our cards. 671 00:34:53,907 --> 00:34:54,907 They're my cards. 672 00:34:55,610 --> 00:34:59,467 You lose, what happens? Five guys find themselves out of work. 673 00:35:00,247 --> 00:35:04,947 I am responsible for a hell of a lot more than five goddamn reporters. 674 00:35:06,907 --> 00:35:07,907 Let it go. 675 00:35:08,646 --> 00:35:10,506 McCarthy will self-destruct. 676 00:35:10,565 --> 00:35:11,088 Cone. 677 00:35:11,113 --> 00:35:11,887 All of them. 678 00:35:11,888 --> 00:35:13,363 It's not like you to run from a fight. 679 00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:14,587 I'm not running from anything, Ed. 680 00:35:14,588 --> 00:35:14,987 Is that so? 681 00:35:15,007 --> 00:35:16,007 Hey. 682 00:35:16,269 --> 00:35:17,360 I write your check. 683 00:35:17,713 --> 00:35:17,973 Yeah. 684 00:35:18,066 --> 00:35:19,867 I put you in that country house. 685 00:35:19,959 --> 00:35:21,259 I put your son through school. 686 00:35:21,343 --> 00:35:24,647 And you should have told me about this before it got so far down the road. 687 00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:26,247 Is it an apology that you want? 688 00:35:26,272 --> 00:35:28,116 We don't make the news, Ed. 689 00:35:28,141 --> 00:35:29,420 We report the news. 690 00:35:29,445 --> 00:35:32,603 Ninety-nine percent of the time he is wrong about the people he labels as being a communist. 691 00:35:32,628 --> 00:35:36,047 If he goes too far, the Senate will investigate him and we will report on that. 692 00:35:36,048 --> 00:35:38,387 But one hundred percent of the time he is wrong when he steps on their civil Liberty. 693 00:35:38,388 --> 00:35:39,547 What are you doing, Ed? 694 00:35:39,647 --> 00:35:42,187 You are trying him in the press. 695 00:35:42,286 --> 00:35:42,566 No. 696 00:35:43,016 --> 00:35:44,786 You have decided on this. 697 00:35:45,167 --> 00:35:46,947 And you're presenting it as fact. 698 00:35:46,987 --> 00:35:48,347 So where do you want to take this? 699 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,500 Every one of your boys has to be clean. 700 00:35:56,777 --> 00:35:57,777 You understand? 701 00:35:57,976 --> 00:35:58,716 No ties. 702 00:35:59,453 --> 00:36:05,117 If Aaron's mother went to a group theater fundraiser in 1932, he is out. 703 00:36:05,142 --> 00:36:06,437 Hewitt, too. 704 00:36:06,462 --> 00:36:08,097 Everyone in that room. 705 00:36:08,157 --> 00:36:08,937 Make no mistake. 706 00:36:09,147 --> 00:36:10,557 I will cut them loose. 707 00:36:11,123 --> 00:36:14,446 A corporate will not interfere with editorial. 708 00:36:15,073 --> 00:36:21,963 But editorial will not jeopardize the hundreds of employees of the Columbia Broadcasting System. 709 00:36:22,263 --> 00:36:23,263 Yes? 710 00:36:23,352 --> 00:36:25,797 Mr. Paley, Senator Symington is on the phone. 711 00:36:27,797 --> 00:36:28,857 And we're not? 712 00:36:28,858 --> 00:36:30,097 We're not advertising it. 713 00:36:32,997 --> 00:36:33,997 Hello, Stu. 714 00:36:34,577 --> 00:36:35,577 Right. 715 00:36:35,864 --> 00:36:38,665 Well, yes, Senator, I do have a question. 716 00:36:38,690 --> 00:36:42,797 The U.S. military is said to have better nuclear capabilities with much smaller bombs. 717 00:36:43,134 --> 00:36:47,279 But the Soviets have developed longer-range missiles, which pits the two 718 00:36:47,304 --> 00:36:51,223 powers against each other in a race to build the first intercontinental rocket 719 00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:53,646 capable of delivering a nuclear explosion. 720 00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,697 The Soviets believe they have the upper hand. 721 00:36:56,698 --> 00:37:00,257 But military experts here at home are confident the U.S. 722 00:37:00,258 --> 00:37:04,477 will win the race to complete a full and functioning missile capable of carrying... 723 00:37:04,478 --> 00:37:04,497 Is this about our sponsors? 724 00:37:04,757 --> 00:37:06,817 Are we afraid of losing our sponsors? 725 00:37:06,937 --> 00:37:08,137 Have we lost a sponsor? 726 00:37:08,217 --> 00:37:08,657 Come on. 727 00:37:08,658 --> 00:37:08,897 I don't understand. 728 00:37:08,997 --> 00:37:10,777 Let me make it easier. 729 00:37:10,937 --> 00:37:13,277 I just need to know for the good of the peace. 730 00:37:13,783 --> 00:37:20,137 If any of you have any connection at all, read a communist newsletter, traveled to 731 00:37:20,138 --> 00:37:24,737 St. Petersburg, was your mother dating a socialist in 1922? 732 00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:25,497 You know what? 733 00:37:25,498 --> 00:37:27,677 Why don't you leave my mother out of this? 734 00:37:27,678 --> 00:37:28,552 I don't care. 735 00:37:28,577 --> 00:37:30,197 I just need to know. 736 00:37:30,443 --> 00:37:33,477 You know, I had a fling with a fascist once. 737 00:37:33,497 --> 00:37:34,597 That must have been fun. 738 00:37:34,622 --> 00:37:36,112 No, not after the war. 739 00:37:36,137 --> 00:37:37,137 They were a little down. 740 00:37:37,337 --> 00:37:37,877 Knock it off. 741 00:37:37,878 --> 00:37:38,878 Maybe it was you, Eddie. 742 00:37:39,037 --> 00:37:39,597 No, no. 743 00:37:39,717 --> 00:37:40,717 Excuse me. 744 00:37:41,677 --> 00:37:43,457 Ed, I think I should excuse myself. 745 00:37:43,477 --> 00:37:45,117 Yeah, I'm going to have to excuse myself. 746 00:37:45,377 --> 00:37:46,377 Excuse me, fellas. 747 00:37:46,657 --> 00:37:47,397 No, really. 748 00:37:47,597 --> 00:37:47,937 Come on. 749 00:37:47,938 --> 00:37:48,938 Let me get out. 750 00:37:49,037 --> 00:37:49,437 Now. 751 00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:50,750 What? 752 00:37:51,799 --> 00:37:52,549 I don't want to hurt us. 753 00:37:52,777 --> 00:37:53,177 Christ. 754 00:37:53,549 --> 00:37:54,629 Okay, that kills us. 755 00:37:54,778 --> 00:37:55,778 Oh. 756 00:37:57,953 --> 00:37:59,203 My ex was... 757 00:38:01,150 --> 00:38:03,153 I wouldn't say she was a communist. 758 00:38:03,217 --> 00:38:06,977 But she certainly attended meetings. 759 00:38:09,057 --> 00:38:10,443 It was before we were married. 760 00:38:11,407 --> 00:38:14,137 And it never came up until after we were divorced. 761 00:38:15,177 --> 00:38:16,317 It didn't matter then. 762 00:38:16,557 --> 00:38:17,557 We were... 763 00:38:19,019 --> 00:38:20,180 We were all on the same side. 764 00:38:22,293 --> 00:38:24,073 Look, I'm not telling you anything. 765 00:38:24,098 --> 00:38:25,533 You don't know anything you don't already know, but the thing of it is 766 00:38:25,558 --> 00:38:28,897 somebody will find out and they'll hurt us with it. 767 00:38:28,917 --> 00:38:29,943 Hurt us? 768 00:38:29,968 --> 00:38:31,038 We can't do the story! 769 00:38:31,457 --> 00:38:32,657 I should have told you sooner. 770 00:38:33,823 --> 00:38:34,489 Sorry, Fred. 771 00:38:36,057 --> 00:38:37,057 Ed. 772 00:38:41,549 --> 00:38:42,549 Sit down, Palmer. 773 00:38:43,783 --> 00:38:44,783 Sit down. 774 00:38:53,387 --> 00:38:54,387 If... 775 00:38:54,918 --> 00:38:58,983 none of us ever read a book that was dangerous, or had a friend that was 776 00:38:59,298 --> 00:39:03,291 different, or joined an organization that advocated change, 777 00:39:03,292 --> 00:39:06,717 we would all be the exact kind of person Joe McCarthy wants. 778 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,841 We're going to go with the story. 779 00:39:12,049 --> 00:39:14,360 Because the terror is right here, in this room. 780 00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:19,043 Our next report will be about the Junior Senator 781 00:39:19,068 --> 00:39:20,156 from Wisconsin. 782 00:39:20,181 --> 00:39:21,737 And Fred, we use only his words. 783 00:39:21,817 --> 00:39:22,817 You understand? 784 00:39:23,857 --> 00:39:25,257 Okay, fellas, that's it. 785 00:39:25,290 --> 00:39:26,957 All the footage we've banked. 786 00:39:26,958 --> 00:39:27,553 Everything. 787 00:39:27,578 --> 00:39:30,358 John, you and Joe and Charlie go through the HUAC hearings. 788 00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:33,190 Eddie and Palmer, see what else we have. 789 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,763 Any speeches he gave or interviews. 790 00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:37,150 His own words, boys. 791 00:39:37,483 --> 00:39:38,483 That's what we need. 792 00:39:38,796 --> 00:39:41,143 Milli, give me those notes. 793 00:39:48,942 --> 00:39:53,554 ♪ There may be trouble ahead ♪ 794 00:39:53,579 --> 00:39:55,648 ♪ but while there's moonlight ♪ 795 00:39:55,672 --> 00:40:00,240 ♪ and music and love and romance. ♪ 796 00:40:00,616 --> 00:40:05,288 ♪ Let's face the music and dance. ♪ 797 00:40:05,312 --> 00:40:09,891 ♪ Before the fiddlers have fled. ♪ 798 00:40:09,916 --> 00:40:14,000 ♪ Before they ask us to pay the bill ♪ 799 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,788 ♪ and while we still got a chance. ♪ 800 00:40:18,812 --> 00:40:23,026 ♪ Let's face the music and dance. ♪ 801 00:40:23,051 --> 00:40:27,241 ♪ Soon ... we'll be without the moon ♪ 802 00:40:27,265 --> 00:40:29,748 ♪ humming a different tune ♪ 803 00:40:29,772 --> 00:40:32,711 ♪ and then ♪ 804 00:40:32,748 --> 00:40:37,109 ♪ there may be teardrops to shed. ♪ 805 00:40:37,506 --> 00:40:40,221 ♪ But while there's moonlight and music ♪ 806 00:40:40,245 --> 00:40:44,095 ♪ and love and romance ♪ 807 00:40:44,125 --> 00:40:49,340 ♪ let's face the music and dance. ♪ 808 00:40:49,422 --> 00:40:52,941 ♪ Let's face the music ♪ 809 00:40:52,965 --> 00:40:58,313 ♪ and dance. ♪ 810 00:41:02,567 --> 00:41:03,567 You gonna make it? 811 00:41:03,592 --> 00:41:04,652 We lost the projector. 812 00:41:06,247 --> 00:41:07,487 Yeah, we'll make it. 813 00:41:07,747 --> 00:41:08,927 Excuse me, Mr. Murrow. 814 00:41:09,207 --> 00:41:10,707 Uh, Mr. Paley's on the line. 815 00:41:11,767 --> 00:41:14,107 Maybe he's gonna reimburse us for the ads. 816 00:41:14,547 --> 00:41:15,367 Uh, that's creepy. 817 00:41:15,467 --> 00:41:15,967 I wouldn't like that. 818 00:41:16,087 --> 00:41:16,727 I wouldn't like that. 819 00:41:16,827 --> 00:41:17,827 I already used it. 820 00:41:20,067 --> 00:41:21,167 This is Ed. 821 00:41:21,587 --> 00:41:22,587 Hey. 822 00:41:22,636 --> 00:41:24,147 The knickerbockers are playing. 823 00:41:24,167 --> 00:41:26,087 And I got front row seats. 824 00:41:26,112 --> 00:41:27,347 Are you interested? 825 00:41:27,696 --> 00:41:30,166 I'm a little busy bringing down the network tonight, Bill. 826 00:41:32,147 --> 00:41:33,587 Oh, is that tonight? 827 00:41:34,446 --> 00:41:35,346 The knickerbockers, you say? 828 00:41:35,513 --> 00:41:36,370 Front row? 829 00:41:36,627 --> 00:41:37,627 It's tempting. 830 00:41:39,547 --> 00:41:40,547 So you know. 831 00:41:41,287 --> 00:41:42,287 We're covered. 832 00:41:42,907 --> 00:41:43,907 All right. 833 00:41:46,123 --> 00:41:47,153 I'm with you tonight, Ed. 834 00:41:47,962 --> 00:41:50,086 And I'll be with you in the morning as well. 835 00:41:52,147 --> 00:41:53,147 Thanks, Bill. 836 00:41:55,443 --> 00:41:56,443 What do you think, Joe? 837 00:41:57,573 --> 00:41:59,800 I think we're ready. 838 00:42:00,593 --> 00:42:02,893 I wish we could wait till we get more footage. 839 00:42:03,467 --> 00:42:04,907 I just don't think we could take the chance. 840 00:42:04,927 --> 00:42:09,227 I think that we have to hit McCarthy before he could come after Ed. 841 00:42:09,386 --> 00:42:12,946 Well, they haven't gone after the Alsops or Herb Block. 842 00:42:13,299 --> 00:42:20,603 Yeah, the Alsops and Herb Block didn't work for the Institute of International Education in 1934. 843 00:42:21,717 --> 00:42:23,067 Then I guess it's time. 844 00:42:24,127 --> 00:42:25,127 Okay. 845 00:42:25,787 --> 00:42:26,267 Hi. 846 00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:26,867 Hi. 847 00:42:26,987 --> 00:42:27,987 Hi. 848 00:42:28,267 --> 00:42:28,747 Bye. 849 00:42:29,107 --> 00:42:30,107 Bye. 850 00:42:34,787 --> 00:42:35,787 You worried? 851 00:42:37,157 --> 00:42:38,207 I didn't think I was. 852 00:42:39,087 --> 00:42:40,227 I don't know why. 853 00:42:40,367 --> 00:42:41,887 I was in the office on Friday. 854 00:42:42,127 --> 00:42:43,127 I answered the phone. 855 00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:45,167 It was Howard calling from London. 856 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,803 He asked me what was going on with McCarthy. 857 00:42:47,827 --> 00:42:53,588 And before I answered him, I turned and looked over my shoulder to see who was listening. 858 00:42:54,393 --> 00:42:55,393 And who was listening? 859 00:42:56,957 --> 00:42:57,957 Chairman Mao. 860 00:42:59,350 --> 00:43:00,187 Oh, Joe. 861 00:43:00,557 --> 00:43:01,557 Your ring. 862 00:43:02,687 --> 00:43:03,693 Jesus Christ. 863 00:43:03,718 --> 00:43:06,441 Name me another wife who reminds her husband to take 864 00:43:06,442 --> 00:43:08,967 off his wedding ring before he goes to the office. 865 00:43:10,247 --> 00:43:11,247 Ava Gardner. 866 00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:12,339 30 seconds. 867 00:43:14,067 --> 00:43:15,067 ...command... 868 00:43:18,697 --> 00:43:20,898 ...in desperate... ...for... 869 00:43:22,397 --> 00:43:24,793 ...in desperate... ...for the man... ...the one and 870 00:43:24,794 --> 00:43:27,758 only... ...in desperate... ...can... ...connu... 871 00:43:29,417 --> 00:43:30,777 ...20 seconds... 872 00:43:40,673 --> 00:43:41,803 ...10 seconds... 873 00:43:46,046 --> 00:43:47,732 ...in 5... 874 00:43:47,757 --> 00:43:49,617 ...4... ...3... 875 00:43:50,067 --> 00:43:51,067 ...2... 876 00:43:52,457 --> 00:43:53,137 ...Good Evening. 877 00:43:53,317 --> 00:43:55,916 Because a report on senator Joseph R. McCarthy 878 00:43:55,941 --> 00:43:58,098 ...is by definition controversial. 879 00:43:58,316 --> 00:44:02,517 We want to say exactly what we mean and request permission to read from a script 880 00:44:02,695 --> 00:44:05,435 any remarks Murrow and Friendly may make. 881 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,957 If the Senator feels that we have done violence to his words or pictures and he 882 00:44:09,958 --> 00:44:15,478 wishes to speak to answer himself, an opportunity will be afforded him on this program. 883 00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:17,997 Our working thesis tonight is from this quotation. 884 00:44:18,590 --> 00:44:22,837 "If this fight against communism has made a fight between America's two great 885 00:44:22,838 --> 00:44:26,477 political parties, the American people know that one of those parties will be 886 00:44:26,478 --> 00:44:30,197 destroyed and the republic cannot endure very long as a one-party system." 887 00:44:30,619 --> 00:44:31,660 We applaud that statement. 888 00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:33,933 We think Senator McCarthy should as well. 889 00:44:33,957 --> 00:44:36,237 He said it 17 months ago in Milwaukee. 890 00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:40,692 The American people realize that this cannot be made a fight 891 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,438 between America's two great political parties. 892 00:44:44,089 --> 00:44:48,033 If this fight against communism has made a fight between America's two great political parties, 893 00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:51,357 the American people know that one of those parties will be 894 00:44:51,382 --> 00:44:55,897 destroyed and the republic can't endure very long as a one-party system. 895 00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:59,236 ...on one thing the Senator has been consistent. 896 00:44:59,590 --> 00:45:03,991 Often acting as a one-man committee, he has traveled far, interviewed many, 897 00:45:04,016 --> 00:45:08,013 terrorized some, accused civilian and military leaders of the past 898 00:45:08,038 --> 00:45:12,260 administration of a great conspiracy to hand over the country to communism. 899 00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:16,817 Well, may I say that I was extremely shocked when I heard that Secretary 900 00:45:16,818 --> 00:45:21,759 Stephen told Miami officers that they had to take part in 901 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,877 the cover-up of those who promoted Ricardo's communism. 902 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:35,638 As a ready statement, I thought of that quotation "On what meat doth this our Caesar feed?" 903 00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:39,063 And upon what meat does Senator McCarthy feed? 904 00:45:39,533 --> 00:45:43,728 Two of the staples of his diet are the investigations, protected by immunity, 905 00:45:43,753 --> 00:45:45,060 and the half-truths. 906 00:45:45,689 --> 00:45:49,553 You attended Columbia University in the early 30s. Is that right? 907 00:45:49,578 --> 00:45:50,728 I did, Mr. Chairman. 908 00:45:50,753 --> 00:45:52,059 Will you speak a little louder, sir? 909 00:45:52,084 --> 00:45:53,453 I did, Mr. Chairman. 910 00:45:54,050 --> 00:45:57,117 And... Were you expelled from Columbia? 911 00:45:59,096 --> 00:46:03,223 I was suspended from classes on April 1st, 1932. 912 00:46:03,453 --> 00:46:07,609 I was later reinstated, and I resigned from the university. 913 00:46:08,288 --> 00:46:09,769 And you resigned from the university? 914 00:46:12,813 --> 00:46:17,463 Did the Civil Liberties Union provide you with an attorney at that time? 915 00:46:18,364 --> 00:46:23,296 I had many offers of attorneys, and one of those was from the American Civil Liberties Union, yes. 916 00:46:23,358 --> 00:46:26,897 The question is, did the Civil Liberties Union supply you with an attorney? 917 00:46:26,932 --> 00:46:28,053 They did supply an attorney. 918 00:46:28,377 --> 00:46:29,377 The answer is yes. 919 00:46:29,797 --> 00:46:30,797 The answer is yes. 920 00:46:31,397 --> 00:46:34,477 You know, the Civil Liberties Union has been listed as 921 00:46:34,478 --> 00:46:36,898 a front foreign doing the work of the Communist Party. 922 00:46:38,193 --> 00:46:40,316 Mr. Chairman, this was 1932. 923 00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:45,648 Yeah, I know that was 1932. Do you know that they since have been listed as a 924 00:46:45,649 --> 00:46:47,978 front foreign doing the work of the Communist Party? 925 00:46:48,057 --> 00:46:50,257 I do not know that they have been listed so, sir. 926 00:46:50,337 --> 00:46:51,396 You don't know that they have been listed? 927 00:46:51,421 --> 00:46:52,727 I've read that mention. 928 00:46:52,780 --> 00:46:54,192 I read that mention. 929 00:46:54,437 --> 00:46:56,977 You wrote a book in 1932. 930 00:46:57,450 --> 00:46:59,137 I'm going to ask you again. 931 00:46:59,197 --> 00:47:03,997 At the time you wrote this book, did you feel that professors should be 932 00:47:03,998 --> 00:47:11,837 given the right to teach sophomores that marriage, let me quote, "should be cast out 933 00:47:11,838 --> 00:47:17,216 of our civilization as antiquated and stupid religious phenomena?" 934 00:47:17,323 --> 00:47:19,068 Was that your feeling at that time? 935 00:47:19,093 --> 00:47:22,916 My feeling was that professors should have the right to 936 00:47:22,917 --> 00:47:25,737 express their opinions on any subject, whatever they were. 937 00:47:26,006 --> 00:47:27,917 I'm going to make you answer that. 938 00:47:28,021 --> 00:47:29,426 Well I, I'll answer yes. 939 00:47:29,451 --> 00:47:34,297 But you put an implication on it and you feature this particular point out of a 940 00:47:34,298 --> 00:47:36,552 book, which of course is quite out of context, does 941 00:47:36,553 --> 00:47:39,077 not give a proper impression of a book as a whole. 942 00:47:39,583 --> 00:47:42,827 The American public doesn't get an honest impression of 943 00:47:42,828 --> 00:47:45,257 even that book as it is from what you're quoting from it. 944 00:47:45,277 --> 00:47:46,277 Back in 5, 4, 3, 2... 945 00:47:46,737 --> 00:47:50,277 The Reid-Harris hearing illustrates one of the Senator's techniques. 946 00:47:50,759 --> 00:47:54,997 Twice, he said the American Civil Liberties Union was listed as a subversive front. 947 00:47:55,340 --> 00:47:59,857 The Attorney General's List does not and never has listed the ACLU as subversive, 948 00:47:59,877 --> 00:48:03,397 nor has the FBI or any other federal government agency. 949 00:48:03,653 --> 00:48:08,257 And the ACLU holds in its files letters of commendation from President Truman, 950 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,137 President Eisenhower, and General MacArthur. 951 00:48:11,896 --> 00:48:16,557 Earlier, the Senator asked, upon what meat does this our Caesar feed? 952 00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:20,237 Had he looked three lines earlier in his speech, Shakespeare's Caesar, he would 953 00:48:20,238 --> 00:48:22,598 have found this line, which is not altogether inappropriate. 954 00:48:23,256 --> 00:48:28,410 "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves." 955 00:48:28,876 --> 00:48:33,257 No one familiar with the history of this country can deny that congressional committees are useful. 956 00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:36,657 It is necessary to investigate before legislating. 957 00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:40,757 But the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one, 958 00:48:40,782 --> 00:48:44,617 and the junior senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly. 959 00:48:45,290 --> 00:48:48,117 We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. 960 00:48:48,250 --> 00:48:51,136 We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and 961 00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:54,297 that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. 962 00:48:54,766 --> 00:48:57,197 We will not walk in fear one of another. 963 00:48:57,473 --> 00:49:01,917 We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason if we dig deep in our history 964 00:49:01,918 --> 00:49:05,097 and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men. 965 00:49:05,526 --> 00:49:09,028 Not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, 966 00:49:09,029 --> 00:49:11,897 or to defend the causes that are for the moment unpopular. 967 00:49:12,583 --> 00:49:15,473 We proclaim ourselves as indeed we are the defenders of 968 00:49:15,498 --> 00:49:18,257 freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world. 969 00:49:18,563 --> 00:49:22,237 But we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home. 970 00:49:22,853 --> 00:49:27,617 The actions of the junior senator from Wisconsin have caused alarm and dismay 971 00:49:27,618 --> 00:49:31,837 amongst our allies abroad, and given considerable comfort to our enemies. 972 00:49:32,540 --> 00:49:33,877 And whose fault is that? 973 00:49:34,397 --> 00:49:35,397 Not really his. 974 00:49:36,146 --> 00:49:40,737 He didn't create this situation of fear, he merely exploited it. 975 00:49:41,216 --> 00:49:42,216 And rather successfully. 976 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,530 Cassius was right. 977 00:49:45,523 --> 00:49:49,746 The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves. 978 00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:52,117 Good night, and good luck. 979 00:49:58,647 --> 00:49:59,647 And we're out. 980 00:50:04,837 --> 00:50:05,837 Good evening. 981 00:50:07,102 --> 00:50:09,087 I don't know whether all of you have seen what I just saw, 982 00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:13,368 but I want to associate myself and this program with what Ed Murrow has just said 983 00:50:13,393 --> 00:50:16,243 and say that I've never been prouder of CBS. 984 00:50:17,437 --> 00:50:18,437 And now the news. 985 00:50:18,623 --> 00:50:19,623 Feel like a scotch? 986 00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:21,670 I think everybody could use one. 987 00:50:21,718 --> 00:50:21,997 Yep. 988 00:50:22,022 --> 00:50:24,677 Women have moved into another male domain. 989 00:50:25,036 --> 00:50:27,900 In 20 United States cities, they've proved themselves 990 00:50:27,901 --> 00:50:30,498 highly efficient in parking and traffic control. 991 00:50:31,597 --> 00:50:36,037 And the trends to the greater employment of traffic policemen as women is rising. 992 00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:38,137 Many of the... 993 00:51:02,577 --> 00:51:03,777 Fritz, what time is it? 994 00:51:06,717 --> 00:51:07,450 3:30. 995 00:51:07,610 --> 00:51:09,417 Early editions are out now. 996 00:51:09,637 --> 00:51:11,117 Oh, I'm not worried about that. 997 00:51:11,287 --> 00:51:12,397 No, of course not. 998 00:51:12,997 --> 00:51:14,377 Hey, Cheryl, honey. 999 00:51:14,466 --> 00:51:16,617 Run down and pick up the early editions. 1000 00:51:16,913 --> 00:51:17,677 All of them? 1001 00:51:17,777 --> 00:51:18,217 All of them. 1002 00:51:18,218 --> 00:51:19,218 Just get O'Brien. 1003 00:51:19,427 --> 00:51:20,897 All right, watch my drink. 1004 00:51:21,937 --> 00:51:23,217 Yeah, I'll go with you, Shirley. 1005 00:51:28,903 --> 00:51:31,303 I'm going to have to fire Joe so those two can date. 1006 00:51:31,328 --> 00:51:32,113 Cigarette? 1007 00:51:32,138 --> 00:51:33,138 I quit. 1008 00:51:33,417 --> 00:51:34,457 Good time to quit. 1009 00:51:35,297 --> 00:51:36,737 Yeah, but what could you do? 1010 00:51:36,763 --> 00:51:39,138 Well, first we want to see if we have jobs tomorrow. 1011 00:51:39,557 --> 00:51:44,237 And if we still have jobs tomorrow, then tail gunner Joe gets to return fire. 1012 00:51:44,557 --> 00:51:45,557 What's he gonna say? 1013 00:51:45,897 --> 00:51:50,237 He's gonna say we're a pinko organization with a leftist agenda. 1014 00:51:50,337 --> 00:51:51,497 We used his own words. 1015 00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:53,017 It's, uh... 1016 00:51:53,917 --> 00:51:55,737 Well, we do have a leftist agenda. 1017 00:51:57,216 --> 00:51:58,216 I'm a pinko. 1018 00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:02,290 Little too loud there, Charlie. 1019 00:52:04,157 --> 00:52:05,857 Been awfully quiet there, didn't it? 1020 00:52:06,077 --> 00:52:07,357 We've got Annie Lee Moss. 1021 00:52:08,070 --> 00:52:10,900 We can have that together by next week, if need be. 1022 00:52:10,925 --> 00:52:11,963 Is that a whole show? 1023 00:52:12,057 --> 00:52:13,057 It's close. 1024 00:52:13,476 --> 00:52:14,476 Listen, Ed. 1025 00:52:15,737 --> 00:52:18,557 There's not gonna be a shortage of material on him. 1026 00:52:18,777 --> 00:52:24,758 What we have to do now is keep up the pressure, till his rebuttal, and then move to Calcutta. 1027 00:52:26,589 --> 00:52:28,249 Sure do miss radio. 1028 00:52:28,810 --> 00:52:30,384 You've got a face for radio. 1029 00:52:31,997 --> 00:52:33,717 That's what my wife keeps telling me. 1030 00:52:33,957 --> 00:52:35,057 All right, here we go. 1031 00:52:35,097 --> 00:52:36,237 We've got all of them. 1032 00:52:36,617 --> 00:52:38,197 The Post, The Times. 1033 00:52:38,337 --> 00:52:38,777 Who wrote it? 1034 00:52:38,957 --> 00:52:39,477 Jack Gould. 1035 00:52:39,717 --> 00:52:40,717 Oh! 1036 00:52:41,157 --> 00:52:42,117 Edward R. Murrow's 1037 00:52:42,177 --> 00:52:46,137 television program on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy 1038 00:52:46,157 --> 00:52:51,137 was an exciting and provocative examination of the man and his methods. 1039 00:52:51,567 --> 00:52:56,060 It was crusading journalism of high responsibility and 1040 00:52:56,085 --> 00:53:00,486 courage for TVs so often plagued by timidity and hesitation. 1041 00:53:00,753 --> 00:53:03,997 The program was a milestone that reflected enlightened citizenship. 1042 00:53:05,857 --> 00:53:07,937 Yeah, what's this guy's beak, huh? 1043 00:53:08,117 --> 00:53:09,397 Oh, wait, hold on, hold on. 1044 00:53:09,697 --> 00:53:14,737 The program was no less an indictment of those who wished the problems posed by the 1045 00:53:14,738 --> 00:53:18,897 senator's tactics and theatrics would just go away and leave them alone. 1046 00:53:19,387 --> 00:53:22,857 That was Mr. Murrow's and television's triumph and a very great one. 1047 00:53:23,097 --> 00:53:24,097 Hear, hear! 1048 00:53:24,977 --> 00:53:27,057 Send the Brits in the New York Times a bottle of scotch. 1049 00:53:27,297 --> 00:53:28,297 I already did. 1050 00:53:28,397 --> 00:53:29,977 How do you think we got that review? 1051 00:53:31,877 --> 00:53:33,277 What about the Post? 1052 00:53:33,917 --> 00:53:34,917 Pretty good. 1053 00:53:35,297 --> 00:53:36,337 What about O'Brien? 1054 00:53:37,017 --> 00:53:38,017 The same. 1055 00:53:39,377 --> 00:53:40,677 Shirley, what did O'Brien say? 1056 00:53:41,677 --> 00:53:42,677 Oh, I don't have it. 1057 00:53:42,877 --> 00:53:43,877 Joe, what about you? 1058 00:53:44,817 --> 00:53:46,277 No, it's here somewhere. 1059 00:53:48,257 --> 00:53:49,257 Okay. 1060 00:53:51,157 --> 00:53:52,157 Hang on. 1061 00:53:52,737 --> 00:53:53,737 Okay. 1062 00:53:53,937 --> 00:53:54,937 Jack O'Brien. 1063 00:53:56,257 --> 00:53:58,957 We can't say we were surprised at Edward R. Murrow's 1064 00:53:58,989 --> 00:54:04,329 hate-McCarthy telecast last evening when his explosively one-sided 1065 00:54:04,537 --> 00:54:08,251 propaganda edited with deviously clever selectivity for 1066 00:54:08,252 --> 00:54:11,837 McCarthy's march against communism was finished last evening. 1067 00:54:12,627 --> 00:54:16,957 By equally Machiavellian coincidence, the following telecast featured Murrow's 1068 00:54:17,057 --> 00:54:18,517 PM protégé, Don Hollenbeck. 1069 00:54:18,877 --> 00:54:19,877 What? 1070 00:54:20,917 --> 00:54:24,917 In an obviously gloating mood, Hollenbeck hoped viewers had witnessed his 1071 00:54:25,117 --> 00:54:25,837 patron's triumph in his own right. 1072 00:54:25,987 --> 00:54:27,068 I am from and for the left. 1073 00:54:27,957 --> 00:54:29,617 And so on and so on. 1074 00:54:29,697 --> 00:54:31,777 Yeah, I guess O'Brien doesn't like scotch. 1075 00:54:32,937 --> 00:54:34,337 It's okay, Shirley, finish it. 1076 00:54:34,537 --> 00:54:35,797 Shirley, read the post, huh? 1077 00:54:35,917 --> 00:54:36,357 Yes. 1078 00:54:36,747 --> 00:54:37,377 That's it, Don. 1079 00:54:37,617 --> 00:54:39,438 It's just... Shirley, finish it. 1080 00:54:40,257 --> 00:54:41,057 That's it, Don. 1081 00:54:41,058 --> 00:54:41,777 Yeah, Don, that's it. 1082 00:54:42,017 --> 00:54:43,017 Shirley. 1083 00:54:46,037 --> 00:54:47,037 Okay. 1084 00:54:48,473 --> 00:54:52,757 The Columbia Broadcasting System has been in a lengthy clean house of lefties' mood. 1085 00:54:53,317 --> 00:54:56,518 The worst offenders on lesser levels have been quietly pushed out of the company. 1086 00:54:57,053 --> 00:55:02,037 Don Hollenbeck, a graduate of the demised Pinko Publication PM, attacked 1087 00:55:02,038 --> 00:55:04,897 conservative newspapers with sly and slanted propaganda. 1088 00:55:05,807 --> 00:55:08,617 He then proceeded through an equally tilted review of the day's events, 1089 00:55:08,757 --> 00:55:11,997 with McCarthy dominating his words, actions, attitude, and camera. 1090 00:55:14,037 --> 00:55:15,037 It's O'Brien. 1091 00:55:16,247 --> 00:55:17,977 I think I'll have that cigarette, Ed. 1092 00:55:18,217 --> 00:55:19,217 Yup. 1093 00:55:20,513 --> 00:55:21,513 I'm heading out. 1094 00:55:21,797 --> 00:55:22,357 Yeah. 1095 00:55:22,382 --> 00:55:25,361 Got a staff meeting in five hours. 1096 00:55:25,497 --> 00:55:26,497 Whoa! 1097 00:55:26,537 --> 00:55:26,977 Whoa! 1098 00:55:27,037 --> 00:55:28,057 It is late! 1099 00:55:28,497 --> 00:55:28,737 Mm. 1100 00:55:28,977 --> 00:55:29,177 Oh. 1101 00:55:29,777 --> 00:55:31,537 Do you want to share a cab? 1102 00:55:32,083 --> 00:55:33,337 Oh, uh, yeah. 1103 00:55:33,397 --> 00:55:34,397 You headed downtown? 1104 00:55:34,437 --> 00:55:34,637 Yes. 1105 00:55:35,087 --> 00:55:36,457 Well, where do you live, Shirley? 1106 00:55:36,596 --> 00:55:37,817 Oh, she lives downtown. 1107 00:55:38,097 --> 00:55:38,337 Ah. 1108 00:55:38,397 --> 00:55:39,397 Yes. 1109 00:55:39,683 --> 00:55:41,177 Hang in there, Don. 1110 00:55:41,257 --> 00:55:42,257 See ya, boys. 1111 00:55:42,577 --> 00:55:43,577 See ya. 1112 00:55:43,957 --> 00:55:44,897 See ya, Ed. 1113 00:55:44,917 --> 00:55:45,317 Thank you. 1114 00:55:45,318 --> 00:55:45,557 Don. 1115 00:55:45,893 --> 00:55:46,543 I appreciate it. 1116 00:55:46,717 --> 00:55:46,977 Okay. 1117 00:55:46,978 --> 00:55:48,098 A big day tomorrow. 1118 00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:49,617 Yeah, today, you mean. 1119 00:55:49,757 --> 00:55:50,057 Huh? 1120 00:55:50,058 --> 00:55:50,877 Let's drink. 1121 00:55:50,977 --> 00:55:51,437 We're drinking. 1122 00:55:51,697 --> 00:55:52,097 Come on. 1123 00:55:52,098 --> 00:55:52,257 Sit. 1124 00:55:52,577 --> 00:55:53,577 As you see. 1125 00:55:55,306 --> 00:55:57,277 Sorry I missed you the other night, Don. 1126 00:56:01,067 --> 00:56:02,457 I need to ask you something, Ed. 1127 00:56:03,777 --> 00:56:04,777 It's about O'Brien. 1128 00:56:04,877 --> 00:56:05,717 O'Brien doesn't matter. 1129 00:56:05,757 --> 00:56:06,277 He's killing me. 1130 00:56:06,297 --> 00:56:07,497 It doesn't make a bit of difference in the news. 1131 00:56:07,498 --> 00:56:08,498 It's not just him. 1132 00:56:08,537 --> 00:56:09,633 We have to let this guy have it. 1133 00:56:09,657 --> 00:56:11,657 - We should expose O'Brien. - We're not gonna go after O'Brien. 1134 00:56:11,658 --> 00:56:13,897 I'm not gonna take on McCarthy and Hearst. 1135 00:56:14,086 --> 00:56:15,413 I can't beat them both. 1136 00:56:15,438 --> 00:56:16,853 Don't read the paper, Don. 1137 00:56:17,730 --> 00:56:19,283 Or don't read O'Brien anyway. 1138 00:56:25,247 --> 00:56:25,713 No. 1139 00:56:27,436 --> 00:56:28,796 No, I guess not. 1140 00:56:49,126 --> 00:56:54,056 I wake up in the morning and I don't recognize anything. 1141 00:56:56,460 --> 00:57:00,937 I feel like I went to sleep three years ago and somebody hijacked. 1142 00:57:02,343 --> 00:57:06,137 As if all the reasonable people took a plane to Europe and left us behind. 1143 00:57:24,777 --> 00:57:25,777 I was always... 1144 00:57:29,139 --> 00:57:30,299 I was always an optimist. 1145 00:57:30,987 --> 00:57:31,987 Really. 1146 00:57:32,146 --> 00:57:33,810 I always thought things work out. 1147 00:57:34,807 --> 00:57:35,807 Half full. 1148 00:57:38,147 --> 00:57:39,147 Yeah. 1149 00:57:41,516 --> 00:57:43,800 I believe in the system, Don. 1150 00:57:44,967 --> 00:57:48,107 As disastrous as it can seem at times, I believe in it. 1151 00:57:49,406 --> 00:57:51,280 We designed it to fix it. 1152 00:57:52,496 --> 00:57:55,767 Madison built it into the Constitution, for Christ's sake. 1153 00:57:55,768 --> 00:57:56,768 It's a... 1154 00:57:57,243 --> 00:57:58,833 I was talking about my divorce. 1155 00:58:00,627 --> 00:58:01,627 So was I. 1156 00:58:04,983 --> 00:58:08,787 Well, I'm glad the forefathers understood the term dissolution of a union. 1157 00:58:09,547 --> 00:58:12,027 I'm sure they had their difficulties with the opposite sex. 1158 00:58:12,810 --> 00:58:14,268 I'm talking about McCarthy. 1159 00:58:15,387 --> 00:58:16,387 So was I. 1160 00:58:21,830 --> 00:58:23,107 Well, I thought I'd try. 1161 00:58:25,643 --> 00:58:26,847 Sorry, Don. 1162 00:58:28,756 --> 00:58:30,907 We never had this conversation, okay? 1163 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,768 It's okay with you, Senator. 1164 00:58:35,387 --> 00:58:35,987 Don't laugh. 1165 00:58:36,107 --> 00:58:37,107 I've thought about it. 1166 00:58:59,433 --> 00:59:03,417 From Studio 41 in Grand Central Station, New York City, the morning show. 1167 00:59:03,597 --> 00:59:04,677 How long for that new copy? 1168 00:59:04,732 --> 00:59:05,732 Just give me an hour. 1169 00:59:05,757 --> 00:59:06,917 Uh, it's gonna need an hour. 1170 00:59:07,097 --> 00:59:08,337 But you've been here all night? 1171 00:59:08,392 --> 00:59:09,392 Yeah, we got a deadline. 1172 00:59:09,997 --> 00:59:11,417 We just got back from D.C. 1173 00:59:11,797 --> 00:59:12,797 Look at Lely. 1174 00:59:12,827 --> 00:59:14,093 Just look an axe 1175 00:59:14,127 --> 00:59:15,567 To McCarthy at the Pentagon hearing. 1176 00:59:15,637 --> 00:59:16,777 He called McCarthy evil. 1177 00:59:16,778 --> 00:59:17,457 Wait, who did? 1178 00:59:17,697 --> 00:59:18,697 Senator McClellan. 1179 00:59:18,907 --> 00:59:20,517 He's sitting two seats down from McCarthy. 1180 00:59:20,518 --> 00:59:21,678 I gotta get this to the land. 1181 00:59:21,722 --> 00:59:23,537 He gets up, calls him evil. 1182 00:59:23,657 --> 00:59:24,337 Wait, who's evil? 1183 00:59:24,457 --> 00:59:25,457 You get it on camera? 1184 00:59:25,697 --> 00:59:26,077 Yeah. 1185 00:59:26,137 --> 00:59:27,137 I think we do. 1186 00:59:27,217 --> 00:59:28,217 Wait, who is evil? 1187 00:59:28,377 --> 00:59:29,397 Oh, Eddie. 1188 00:59:29,890 --> 00:59:31,267 I can hear you. 1189 00:59:31,917 --> 00:59:33,077 What are they doing in there? 1190 00:59:33,140 --> 00:59:34,797 Uh, rewriting the Constitution. 1191 00:59:35,049 --> 00:59:36,370 They were there for the original. 1192 00:59:37,137 --> 00:59:38,217 Uh, hold on, Joe. 1193 00:59:38,577 --> 00:59:40,457 Palmer, can I talk to you for a minute? 1194 00:59:40,482 --> 00:59:41,482 Yeah, sure, Fred. 1195 00:59:41,877 --> 00:59:42,717 Uh, give me a second. 1196 00:59:42,877 --> 00:59:43,037 Fred. 1197 00:59:43,657 --> 00:59:44,057 Yeah. 1198 00:59:44,177 --> 00:59:45,177 Uh, fellas. 1199 00:59:45,396 --> 00:59:46,757 Uh, McCarthy's office just called. 1200 00:59:46,807 --> 00:59:49,037 He wants equal time. 1201 00:59:49,457 --> 00:59:50,457 When? 1202 00:59:50,482 --> 00:59:51,557 April 6th. 1203 00:59:51,577 --> 00:59:52,360 In studio? 1204 00:59:52,385 --> 00:59:54,016 He wants to film it in his office. 1205 00:59:54,041 --> 00:59:54,730 Who? 1206 00:59:55,216 --> 00:59:56,216 McCarthy. 1207 00:59:57,060 --> 00:59:58,557 Jesus Christ. 1208 00:59:58,786 --> 01:00:00,937 They, they told me Buckley wanted to respond. 1209 01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:01,577 No. 1210 01:00:02,277 --> 01:00:03,937 Um, it's McCarthy. 1211 01:00:04,443 --> 01:00:06,857 Yeah, but are, are they gonna let Charlie shoot? 1212 01:00:06,858 --> 01:00:07,397 What's he gonna say? 1213 01:00:07,557 --> 01:00:08,337 Why are you gonna shoot him? 1214 01:00:08,357 --> 01:00:11,457 You know what it's gonna be. 1215 01:00:11,537 --> 01:00:12,537 He's gonna come after me. 1216 01:00:12,562 --> 01:00:13,763 It's the only thing he can do. 1217 01:00:14,386 --> 01:00:16,737 He's gonna bet that, uh, Senator Trump's a newsman. 1218 01:00:16,757 --> 01:00:17,157 Huh. 1219 01:00:17,377 --> 01:00:18,377 He'll lose. 1220 01:00:20,537 --> 01:00:21,537 Maybe. 1221 01:00:23,357 --> 01:00:24,357 Okay, fellas. 1222 01:00:24,397 --> 01:00:24,977 Here we go. 1223 01:00:25,077 --> 01:00:26,077 Joe, call Stanton. 1224 01:00:26,117 --> 01:00:26,577 Let him know. 1225 01:00:26,697 --> 01:00:27,197 You got it. 1226 01:00:27,198 --> 01:00:29,997 John, uh, let's see all the Eisenhower footage you've got. 1227 01:00:30,057 --> 01:00:31,377 We, we need to prep a response. 1228 01:00:31,517 --> 01:00:31,877 Okay, Fred. 1229 01:00:31,897 --> 01:00:32,137 Yep. 1230 01:00:32,417 --> 01:00:36,977 Um, Palmer, Phil, in legal, wants to have a word with you. 1231 01:00:37,057 --> 01:00:37,377 Okay. 1232 01:00:37,557 --> 01:00:38,557 Okay. 1233 01:00:39,437 --> 01:00:39,877 Now? 1234 01:00:39,953 --> 01:00:40,757 Uh, yes. 1235 01:00:40,973 --> 01:00:42,419 Now is best. 1236 01:00:43,569 --> 01:00:45,519 Never very good news, is it? 1237 01:00:48,177 --> 01:00:49,177 Not often. 1238 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,093 Operator. 1239 01:01:03,687 --> 01:01:05,487 Can you connect me with Phil in legal? 1240 01:01:05,513 --> 01:01:06,807 Right away. 1241 01:01:08,757 --> 01:01:09,757 Mr. Williams. 1242 01:01:10,213 --> 01:01:11,213 Guilty. 1243 01:01:12,226 --> 01:01:13,226 Let's hope not. 1244 01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:16,847 There isn't a lot of time, so I'll be brief. 1245 01:01:18,387 --> 01:01:21,487 This network is under a tremendous amount of pressure. 1246 01:01:21,536 --> 01:01:23,003 These stories aren't helping. 1247 01:01:23,027 --> 01:01:24,027 I, I understand. 1248 01:01:24,052 --> 01:01:25,307 I'm not sure you do. 1249 01:01:26,423 --> 01:01:30,087 There's a great deal of concern about your past positions. 1250 01:01:30,153 --> 01:01:31,713 My wife's past positions? 1251 01:01:31,738 --> 01:01:32,738 That's right. 1252 01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:35,513 HUAC has a file on you. 1253 01:01:37,647 --> 01:01:38,647 How do you know? 1254 01:01:38,687 --> 01:01:40,307 A file was sent to Mr. Paley yesterday. 1255 01:01:41,577 --> 01:01:42,987 Well, that's interesting timing. 1256 01:01:43,012 --> 01:01:44,292 Well, when you strike at a king. 1257 01:01:44,457 --> 01:01:46,456 Or a junior senator from Wisconsin. 1258 01:01:50,587 --> 01:01:52,147 CBS is prepared to make an offer. 1259 01:01:52,607 --> 01:01:53,187 Uh-oh. 1260 01:01:53,227 --> 01:01:57,808 If you submit your resignation, CBS will cover any legal expenses you might incur on this subject. 1261 01:01:58,187 --> 01:01:59,360 Well, that's awfully kind of you. 1262 01:01:59,387 --> 01:01:59,807 No, it isn't. 1263 01:01:59,886 --> 01:02:00,886 No, it isn't. 1264 01:02:02,467 --> 01:02:03,827 These guys don't play around. 1265 01:02:04,812 --> 01:02:05,667 They're relentless. 1266 01:02:05,787 --> 01:02:08,807 They will cost you everything you have. 1267 01:02:10,167 --> 01:02:11,167 I understand. 1268 01:02:14,787 --> 01:02:15,787 Do you? 1269 01:02:17,413 --> 01:02:18,413 Palmer. 1270 01:02:19,067 --> 01:02:20,067 Take the deal. 1271 01:02:21,111 --> 01:02:24,363 If these guys decide to call you in, we will cut you loose. 1272 01:02:24,776 --> 01:02:27,427 And then no one will be there to help. Not CBS. 1273 01:02:27,787 --> 01:02:28,787 Not Murrow. 1274 01:02:29,987 --> 01:02:30,987 No one. 1275 01:02:37,273 --> 01:02:38,273 Phil, you're a good guy. 1276 01:02:40,088 --> 01:02:42,860 And I appreciate that this is your job. 1277 01:02:45,009 --> 01:02:48,576 But what you're asking me to do, I could never do. 1278 01:02:51,267 --> 01:02:52,267 I understand. 1279 01:02:56,213 --> 01:02:59,113 Well, it's funny how your life can be upended just for telling the truth. 1280 01:02:59,206 --> 01:03:00,206 And marrying a communist. 1281 01:03:00,273 --> 01:03:01,883 Oh yeah, there is that. 1282 01:03:03,547 --> 01:03:04,547 Be careful. 1283 01:03:05,433 --> 01:03:06,433 Yeah. 1284 01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:10,100 Ed. 1285 01:03:11,567 --> 01:03:12,587 It's 28 minutes. 1286 01:03:12,612 --> 01:03:13,972 I could clip a little off the end. 1287 01:03:14,827 --> 01:03:16,187 I think we have to leave it alone. 1288 01:03:16,947 --> 01:03:17,627 Very smart. 1289 01:03:17,727 --> 01:03:18,567 No time for comment. 1290 01:03:18,592 --> 01:03:19,872 Came in 10 minutes ago. 1291 01:03:20,307 --> 01:03:22,967 And we put it up, saw the first couple of minutes. 1292 01:03:23,959 --> 01:03:24,959 You're right. 1293 01:03:25,323 --> 01:03:26,323 He's coming after me. 1294 01:03:27,232 --> 01:03:28,657 Okay. Thanks. 1295 01:03:31,276 --> 01:03:33,407 Charlie, have you seen the latest polls? 1296 01:03:33,408 --> 01:03:36,467 The most trusted man in America is Milton Berle. 1297 01:03:38,387 --> 01:03:40,067 Maybe he should do the story. 1298 01:03:41,327 --> 01:03:42,327 Hey, Fred. 1299 01:03:43,007 --> 01:03:45,807 Let's say we grab a little dinner after the show. 1300 01:03:46,103 --> 01:03:47,103 The 21 Club? 1301 01:03:47,307 --> 01:03:47,847 Sure. 1302 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,006 45 seconds to air. 1303 01:03:51,407 --> 01:03:52,407 Look. 1304 01:03:52,936 --> 01:03:54,956 There's nothing fun about this one. 1305 01:03:55,467 --> 01:04:00,867 You just gotta put your gloves down, stick your chin out, and just take it for a whole round. 1306 01:04:00,868 --> 01:04:02,307 Next week's our round. 1307 01:04:02,706 --> 01:04:03,866 If I make it up off the mat. 1308 01:04:04,447 --> 01:04:05,027 You will. 1309 01:04:05,407 --> 01:04:06,407 30 seconds. 1310 01:04:16,383 --> 01:04:17,383 20 seconds. 1311 01:04:27,827 --> 01:04:28,867 10 seconds. 1312 01:04:33,626 --> 01:04:37,990 In 5...4...3...2. 1313 01:04:39,127 --> 01:04:40,127 Good evening. 1314 01:04:40,447 --> 01:04:44,906 One month ago tonight we presented our report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy. 1315 01:04:44,931 --> 01:04:46,523 we labelled it as controversial. 1316 01:04:46,553 --> 01:04:50,807 Most of that report consisted of words and pictures of the senator. 1317 01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:54,947 At the time we told the senator that if he feels that we have done violence to his 1318 01:04:54,948 --> 01:04:58,222 words or pictures, and he wishes to speak, to answer himself, 1319 01:04:58,223 --> 01:05:00,727 ...an opportunity would be afforded him on this program. 1320 01:05:01,036 --> 01:05:05,447 The senator sought that opportunity, asked for a three-week delay because he 1321 01:05:05,448 --> 01:05:08,507 said he was very busy and wished adequate time to prepare his reply. 1322 01:05:08,867 --> 01:05:09,867 We agreed. 1323 01:05:10,110 --> 01:05:14,147 We placed no restrictions on the method or manner of the presentation of his reply 1324 01:05:14,148 --> 01:05:17,667 and suggested that we would not take time for comment on this program. 1325 01:05:18,403 --> 01:05:22,267 Here now is Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, junior senator from Wisconsin. 1326 01:05:24,147 --> 01:05:25,147 Good evening. 1327 01:05:25,663 --> 01:05:27,230 Mr. Edward R. Murrow, 1328 01:05:27,263 --> 01:05:32,507 educational director of the Columbia Broadcasting System, devoted his 1329 01:05:32,508 --> 01:05:36,467 program to an attack on the work of the United States Senate Investigating 1330 01:05:36,468 --> 01:05:39,647 Committee and on me personally as its chairman. 1331 01:05:39,890 --> 01:05:42,710 Now ordinarily, ordinarily I would not take time out 1332 01:05:42,711 --> 01:05:46,487 from the important work at hand to answer Murrow. 1333 01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:52,603 However, in this case, I feel justified in doing so because Murrow is a symbol. 1334 01:05:53,070 --> 01:05:58,287 The leader, and the cleverest of the jackal pack which is 1335 01:05:58,288 --> 01:06:04,353 always found at the throat of anyone who dares to expose individual communists and treacheries. 1336 01:06:05,476 --> 01:06:10,443 I am compelled by the fact to say to you that Mr. Edward R. Murrow, 1337 01:06:10,863 --> 01:06:17,948 as far back as 20 years ago, was engaged in propaganda for communist causes. 1338 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,398 For example, the Institute of International Education. 1339 01:06:22,076 --> 01:06:29,147 ...of which he was the acting director, was chosen to act as a representative by a 1340 01:06:29,148 --> 01:06:36,808 Soviet agency to do a job which would normally be done by the Russian secret police. 1341 01:06:36,833 --> 01:06:40,983 Now Mr. Murrow, by his own admission, was a member of the IWW, that's the 1342 01:06:41,008 --> 01:06:45,487 Industrial Workers of the World, a terrorist organization cited as 1343 01:06:45,512 --> 01:06:48,651 subversive by an Attorney General of the United States. 1344 01:06:49,449 --> 01:06:55,363 Now Mr. Murrow said in this program, and I quote, he said "the actions of the 1345 01:06:55,388 --> 01:07:02,587 junior senator from Wisconsin have given considerable comfort to the enemy." 1346 01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:07,227 That is the language of our statute of treason, a rather strong language. 1347 01:07:08,003 --> 01:07:13,187 If I am giving comfort to our enemies, I ought not to be in the Senate. 1348 01:07:13,733 --> 01:07:17,767 If, on the other hand, Mr. Murrow is giving comfort to our enemies, 1349 01:07:18,396 --> 01:07:21,751 he ought not to be brought into the homes of millions 1350 01:07:21,752 --> 01:07:24,707 of Americans by the Columbia Broadcasting System. 1351 01:07:25,143 --> 01:07:29,847 But this is a question, which can be resolved with... 1352 01:07:32,747 --> 01:07:35,647 I have to go to Philadelphia in the morning. 1353 01:07:36,967 --> 01:07:38,247 What time is your train? 1354 01:07:38,987 --> 01:07:39,987 Uh, eight. 1355 01:07:40,457 --> 01:07:41,707 Is Charlie going with you? 1356 01:07:42,127 --> 01:07:43,127 Mm-hmm. 1357 01:07:48,836 --> 01:07:51,147 I don't... 1358 01:07:51,567 --> 01:07:52,567 Ah ... 1359 01:07:53,257 --> 01:07:56,867 want to say ... what I'm about to say. 1360 01:07:57,942 --> 01:07:58,782 Uh-oh. 1361 01:07:58,807 --> 01:07:59,287 Yeah. 1362 01:07:59,657 --> 01:08:00,767 You want a divorce. 1363 01:08:01,937 --> 01:08:02,547 No. 1364 01:08:02,887 --> 01:08:03,887 Do you? 1365 01:08:05,636 --> 01:08:09,227 depends on what you're about to say. 1366 01:08:09,916 --> 01:08:15,307 Just keep having this nagging thought that we might be wrong. 1367 01:08:16,367 --> 01:08:17,327 About what? 1368 01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:21,053 Well ... there are communists here. 1369 01:08:21,107 --> 01:08:21,587 Yes. 1370 01:08:21,612 --> 01:08:24,047 and they don't always have our best interests at heart. 1371 01:08:24,072 --> 01:08:24,708 Probably not. 1372 01:08:24,733 --> 01:08:25,189 Yeah. 1373 01:08:25,214 --> 01:08:29,474 - Does McCarthy? - Well, the argument could be made. 1374 01:08:30,963 --> 01:08:32,164 And it's for the greater good. 1375 01:08:33,723 --> 01:08:34,723 That's one argument. 1376 01:08:35,020 --> 01:08:38,620 - Like, Alger Hiss was... - Alger Hiss had a trial. 1377 01:08:39,206 --> 01:08:41,716 Alger Hiss faced his accusers. 1378 01:08:42,827 --> 01:08:43,867 And he went to jail. 1379 01:08:43,892 --> 01:08:44,892 That's right. 1380 01:08:45,486 --> 01:08:46,486 That's how this works. 1381 01:08:51,973 --> 01:08:56,373 So we're not going to look back and say we protected the wrong side? 1382 01:08:58,807 --> 01:08:59,807 You're right, Joe. 1383 01:09:00,067 --> 01:09:01,067 Yeah? 1384 01:09:03,246 --> 01:09:04,246 I want a divorce. 1385 01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:07,700 Yeah, I wouldn't blame you. 1386 01:09:09,736 --> 01:09:11,406 When did you start smoking? 1387 01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:13,719 Fifteen minutes ago. 1388 01:09:17,157 --> 01:09:17,837 Good evening. 1389 01:09:18,557 --> 01:09:23,096 Last week, Senator McCarthy appeared on this program to correct any errors he 1390 01:09:23,121 --> 01:09:25,977 might have thought we made in our report of March 9th. 1391 01:09:26,213 --> 01:09:29,178 Since he made no reference to any statements of fact, 1392 01:09:29,179 --> 01:09:32,397 we must conclude that he found no errors of fact. 1393 01:09:33,076 --> 01:09:38,337 He proved once again that anyone who exposes him, anyone who does not share his 1394 01:09:38,338 --> 01:09:42,276 hysterical disregard to decency and human dignity and the rights guaranteed in the 1395 01:09:42,301 --> 01:09:46,397 Constitution must be either a communist or a fellow traveler. 1396 01:09:47,149 --> 01:09:48,430 I fully expected this treatment. 1397 01:09:49,436 --> 01:09:53,131 The senator added this reporter's name to a long list of individuals and 1398 01:09:53,156 --> 01:09:56,637 institutions that he has accused of serving the communist cause. 1399 01:09:57,186 --> 01:09:59,666 His proposition is a very simple one. 1400 01:09:59,958 --> 01:10:04,596 Anyone who criticizes or opposes McCarthy's methods must be a communist. 1401 01:10:04,926 --> 01:10:08,238 And if that be true, there are an awful lot of communists in this country. 1402 01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:12,613 For the record, let us consider briefly some of the senator's charges. 1403 01:10:13,283 --> 01:10:17,511 He claimed, but offered no proof, that I was a member of the industrial workers of the world. 1404 01:10:17,536 --> 01:10:18,536 That is false. 1405 01:10:18,879 --> 01:10:20,866 I never was a member of the IWW. 1406 01:10:21,130 --> 01:10:22,291 Never applied for membership. 1407 01:10:23,003 --> 01:10:27,253 The senator charged that Professor Harold Lasky, a British scholar and politician, 1408 01:10:27,476 --> 01:10:28,396 dedicated a book to me. 1409 01:10:28,443 --> 01:10:29,130 That is true. 1410 01:10:29,437 --> 01:10:30,437 He is dead. 1411 01:10:30,602 --> 01:10:31,440 He was a socialist. 1412 01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:32,510 I am not. 1413 01:10:32,676 --> 01:10:36,696 He was one of those civilized individuals who didn't insist upon agreement with 1414 01:10:36,727 --> 01:10:40,452 political principles as a precondition for friendship or conversation. 1415 01:10:40,898 --> 01:10:42,873 I don't agree with his political ideas. 1416 01:10:43,453 --> 01:10:47,263 Lasky, as he makes clear in the introduction, dedicated the book to me not 1417 01:10:47,288 --> 01:10:51,457 because of political agreement, but because he held my wartime broadcasts 1418 01:10:51,482 --> 01:10:52,563 from London in high regard. 1419 01:10:53,353 --> 01:10:54,503 And the dedication so reads. 1420 01:10:55,557 --> 01:10:59,873 I believe 20 years ago and I believe today that mature Americans can engage in 1421 01:10:59,898 --> 01:11:03,737 conversation, controversy, a clash of ideas with communists anywhere in the 1422 01:11:03,738 --> 01:11:06,277 world without becoming contaminated or converted. 1423 01:11:06,671 --> 01:11:10,670 I believe that our faith, our conviction, our determination are stronger than theirs. 1424 01:11:10,881 --> 01:11:12,170 And that we can compete. 1425 01:11:12,195 --> 01:11:16,977 And successfully, not only in the area of bombs, but in the area of ideas. 1426 01:11:17,979 --> 01:11:21,096 I have worked for CBS for 19 years. 1427 01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:27,891 The company has subscribed fully to my integrity as a broadcaster and as a loyal American. 1428 01:11:28,917 --> 01:11:32,059 I require no lectures from the junior senator from Wisconsin. 1429 01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:38,210 Having searched my conscience and my files, I cannot contend that I have always been right or wise. 1430 01:11:38,235 --> 01:11:41,033 But I have attempted to pursue the truth with some diligence. 1431 01:11:41,058 --> 01:11:42,216 And to report it. 1432 01:11:42,241 --> 01:11:46,306 Even though, as in this case, I had been warned in advance that I would be 1433 01:11:46,331 --> 01:11:48,763 subjected to the attentions of Senator McCarthy. 1434 01:11:49,488 --> 01:11:53,069 We should hope to deal with matters of more vital interest to the country next week. 1435 01:11:53,094 --> 01:11:54,716 Good night and good luck. 1436 01:12:17,857 --> 01:12:18,857 Good morning. 1437 01:12:19,957 --> 01:12:21,237 How are you feeling? 1438 01:12:21,497 --> 01:12:21,957 How am I? 1439 01:12:22,337 --> 01:12:23,577 How are you feeling? 1440 01:12:23,947 --> 01:12:25,357 What time did you leave last night? 1441 01:12:25,557 --> 01:12:26,517 She didn't leave last night. 1442 01:12:26,518 --> 01:12:28,477 I didn't leave this morning. 1443 01:12:29,277 --> 01:12:30,717 Oh, it's just this today. 1444 01:12:31,357 --> 01:12:32,357 Oh, just this? 1445 01:12:32,497 --> 01:12:33,497 Just this, ma'am. 1446 01:12:35,176 --> 01:12:39,192 ♪ Somewhere there's music. ♪ 1447 01:12:39,217 --> 01:12:40,776 ♪ How faint the tune. ♪ 1448 01:12:41,462 --> 01:12:44,163 ♪ Somewhere there's heaven. ♪ 1449 01:12:44,756 --> 01:12:46,416 ♪ How high the moon. ♪ 1450 01:12:48,189 --> 01:12:49,932 Ah. What time are we going to today? 1451 01:12:50,536 --> 01:12:53,456 Oh, uh, I'll get back to you in a minute. 1452 01:12:54,877 --> 01:12:55,877 We'll be here. 1453 01:12:57,076 --> 01:13:02,070 In the last analysis, the senator was perched on the television high dive and 1454 01:13:02,101 --> 01:13:04,672 all prepared to make a resounding splash. 1455 01:13:05,063 --> 01:13:11,393 He jumped beautifully, but neglected to check first where he was going to land. 1456 01:13:12,307 --> 01:13:14,936 It must have been something of a shock to discover 1457 01:13:14,961 --> 01:13:17,701 that Mr. Murrow had drained the water out of the pool. 1458 01:13:19,620 --> 01:13:20,460 Jack Pool. 1459 01:13:20,485 --> 01:13:20,993 The Times? 1460 01:13:21,018 --> 01:13:22,018 Yeah, the Times. 1461 01:13:24,008 --> 01:13:25,223 Hell of a writer. 1462 01:13:25,531 --> 01:13:26,756 We should hire him away from the Times. 1463 01:13:26,781 --> 01:13:32,540 Yeah, well, uh, CBS has got a public opinion survey here that, uh, Elmo Roper put together. 1464 01:13:32,565 --> 01:13:32,985 Uh-oh. 1465 01:13:33,323 --> 01:13:33,963 Says... 1466 01:13:34,286 --> 01:13:38,513 33% of all households believe McCarthy proved you're a commie. 1467 01:13:38,677 --> 01:13:38,997 Huh? 1468 01:13:39,122 --> 01:13:40,482 Only 33%? 1469 01:13:40,507 --> 01:13:42,487 Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. 1470 01:13:44,943 --> 01:13:47,667 The Senate is investigating McCarthy. 1471 01:13:49,506 --> 01:13:50,506 Hey! 1472 01:13:54,007 --> 01:13:54,423 Oh! 1473 01:13:54,460 --> 01:13:55,020 Got him. 1474 01:13:55,467 --> 01:13:56,467 Oh! 1475 01:14:01,613 --> 01:14:04,395 Oh, oh, you'll be all right, Palmer. 1476 01:14:04,420 --> 01:14:05,480 Palmer! 1477 01:14:06,008 --> 01:14:07,008 You'll be all right. 1478 01:14:10,483 --> 01:14:12,767 The Senate is investigating McCarthy. 1479 01:14:12,873 --> 01:14:14,370 We're up there with Howdy Doody. 1480 01:14:14,395 --> 01:14:15,395 Hold on, Ed. 1481 01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:23,140 ♪ Somewhere there's music. ♪ 1482 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:28,476 ♪ How faint the tune. ♪ 1483 01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:34,919 ♪ Somewhere there's heaven. ♪ 1484 01:14:34,944 --> 01:14:41,796 ♪ How high the moon. ♪ 1485 01:14:42,717 --> 01:14:50,027 ♪ There is no moon above. ♪ 1486 01:14:50,753 --> 01:14:58,223 ♪ When love is far away, too. ♪ 1487 01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:06,733 ♪ Until it comes true. ♪ 1488 01:15:07,773 --> 01:15:19,176 ♪ That you love me as I love you. ♪ 1489 01:15:19,896 --> 01:15:25,133 One of the best programs I ever heard was called CBS Views the Press. 1490 01:15:25,330 --> 01:15:27,250 A great many people liked it, some didn't. 1491 01:15:27,869 --> 01:15:29,969 But no one would say it was anything but honest. 1492 01:15:30,198 --> 01:15:32,436 It was the work of an honest reporter, Don Hollenbeck. 1493 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,521 He also worked occasionally on See It Now. 1494 01:15:35,509 --> 01:15:37,963 He did the 11 P.M. news over some of these stations. 1495 01:15:38,989 --> 01:15:41,529 He'd been sick lately and he died this morning. 1496 01:15:42,396 --> 01:15:43,856 The police said it was suicide. 1497 01:15:44,964 --> 01:15:45,964 Gas. 1498 01:15:46,944 --> 01:15:48,004 Not much of an obit. 1499 01:15:49,104 --> 01:15:51,364 But at least we got our facts straight and it was brief. 1500 01:15:52,372 --> 01:15:54,213 And that's all Don Hollenbeck would have asked. 1501 01:15:55,584 --> 01:15:56,584 Good night. 1502 01:15:57,064 --> 01:15:58,064 And good luck. 1503 01:16:04,910 --> 01:16:09,279 ♪ Until you will. ♪ 1504 01:16:09,304 --> 01:16:13,233 ♪ How still my heart. ♪ 1505 01:16:13,258 --> 01:16:19,200 ♪ How high the moon. ♪ 1506 01:16:39,907 --> 01:16:40,907 Son of a bitch. 1507 01:17:21,413 --> 01:17:22,224 See It Now. 1508 01:17:24,203 --> 01:17:24,804 Uh, yeah. 1509 01:17:25,009 --> 01:17:26,400 Circulate that memo to 41. 1510 01:17:27,524 --> 01:17:28,083 Yeah. 1511 01:17:28,204 --> 01:17:29,204 Circulate to Stanton. 1512 01:17:29,584 --> 01:17:30,584 Circulate to SIG. 1513 01:17:31,053 --> 01:17:32,804 Um, everybody gets that memo. 1514 01:17:32,924 --> 01:17:33,550 Got it? 1515 01:17:35,464 --> 01:17:35,864 Yes. 1516 01:17:36,464 --> 01:17:37,464 Sunday, 4.30. 1517 01:17:37,504 --> 01:17:38,544 Will you start in with me? 1518 01:17:39,264 --> 01:17:39,664 Yes. 1519 01:17:39,744 --> 01:17:40,524 4:30 Sunday. 1520 01:17:40,664 --> 01:17:41,664 Good to see you, sir. 1521 01:17:42,264 --> 01:17:42,844 All right. 1522 01:17:43,104 --> 01:17:44,144 Have a good morning today. 1523 01:17:44,544 --> 01:17:44,944 Yep. 1524 01:17:44,945 --> 01:17:46,120 Have a good at least tomorrow. 1525 01:17:46,144 --> 01:17:46,404 Yep. 1526 01:17:46,405 --> 01:17:46,864 Thank you. 1527 01:17:47,064 --> 01:17:48,704 How many times do you want us to see you? 1528 01:17:49,394 --> 01:17:50,624 It's gonna be great, Charlie. 1529 01:17:50,714 --> 01:17:52,944 You're just so in tune with time together. 1530 01:17:52,964 --> 01:17:53,344 Joe. 1531 01:17:53,904 --> 01:17:54,904 Shirley. 1532 01:17:55,659 --> 01:17:56,670 Can I talk to you both? 1533 01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:58,520 Let's use the editing room. 1534 01:18:03,410 --> 01:18:04,976 Billy, could you excuse us for a minute? 1535 01:18:05,001 --> 01:18:06,001 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1536 01:18:15,437 --> 01:18:16,437 Shirley. 1537 01:18:18,484 --> 01:18:19,484 How are you? 1538 01:18:21,684 --> 01:18:22,684 Fine, Fred. 1539 01:18:28,134 --> 01:18:29,814 Is there a problem, Fred? 1540 01:18:29,839 --> 01:18:31,200 I want to ask you both a question. 1541 01:18:32,654 --> 01:18:34,015 But I don't want you to answer it. 1542 01:18:35,834 --> 01:18:36,834 Just consider it. 1543 01:18:38,662 --> 01:18:40,186 I know you two are married. 1544 01:18:43,214 --> 01:18:45,154 Everyone knows. That's not my question. 1545 01:18:47,944 --> 01:18:52,514 In the next few weeks, I have to lay a couple of people off. 1546 01:18:54,380 --> 01:18:59,069 We're making some significant cuts across the board. 1547 01:18:59,094 --> 01:19:05,194 I wanted you to know that because if you have any intention in the near future of 1548 01:19:05,195 --> 01:19:11,915 starting a family, I would say to you that you could save someone else from being fired. 1549 01:19:13,994 --> 01:19:19,880 I'm asking you to consider making this decision a little easier. 1550 01:19:25,244 --> 01:19:26,813 I don't need an answer now. 1551 01:19:27,449 --> 01:19:28,889 Just think about it. 1552 01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:41,957 Well 1553 01:19:45,477 --> 01:19:46,477 Mrs. Werschba. 1554 01:19:49,650 --> 01:19:52,003 We're really going to miss you around here, Joe. 1555 01:20:04,433 --> 01:20:05,896 Everybody knew. 1556 01:20:08,451 --> 01:20:12,771 Yeah, but the problem isn't simply that you lost your sponsor. 1557 01:20:12,796 --> 01:20:15,717 - Even with Alcoa, See it Now still loses money. - The fee is $50,000. 1558 01:20:15,744 --> 01:20:15,884 1559 01:20:15,885 --> 01:20:17,719 Last week's show we did for less than the fee. 1560 01:20:17,744 --> 01:20:19,024 We'll find another sponsor. 1561 01:20:19,049 --> 01:20:20,399 $64,000 question. 1562 01:20:20,771 --> 01:20:26,051 Brings in over $80,000 in sponsors and it costs a third of what you do. 1563 01:20:26,424 --> 01:20:29,179 Ed, I've got Tuesday night programming. 1564 01:20:29,204 --> 01:20:30,504 It's number one. 1565 01:20:30,505 --> 01:20:33,384 Because people just want to enjoy themselves. 1566 01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:35,819 They don't want a civics lecture. 1567 01:20:35,844 --> 01:20:37,024 What do you want, Bill? 1568 01:20:37,025 --> 01:20:43,125 Well, I don't want a constant stomachache every time you take on a controversial subject. 1569 01:20:43,410 --> 01:20:45,566 That's a price you have to be willing to pay. 1570 01:20:45,704 --> 01:20:46,704 Careful, Ed. 1571 01:20:48,203 --> 01:20:52,180 Let's walk very carefully through these next few moments. 1572 01:20:54,974 --> 01:20:58,646 The content of what we're doing is more important than what some sponsor in Cincinnati. 1573 01:20:58,671 --> 01:21:00,519 No, no no, what you're doing. 1574 01:21:00,544 --> 01:21:01,159 Not me. 1575 01:21:01,184 --> 01:21:02,319 Not CBS. 1576 01:21:02,344 --> 01:21:02,664 You. 1577 01:21:02,689 --> 01:21:03,624 CBS News. See it now. 1578 01:21:03,664 --> 01:21:04,664 They all belong to you. 1579 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,093 Well, you wouldn't know it. 1580 01:21:06,152 --> 01:21:07,816 What, is it credit that you want? 1581 01:21:07,864 --> 01:21:10,584 I never censored a single program. 1582 01:21:11,390 --> 01:21:15,253 No, I kept our affiliates who just wanted entertainment from us. 1583 01:21:15,346 --> 01:21:21,104 And I fought to keep our license with the same politicians you were working to bring down. 1584 01:21:21,217 --> 01:21:23,237 And I never said no to you. 1585 01:21:23,404 --> 01:21:23,944 Not once. 1586 01:21:23,945 --> 01:21:25,806 I would argue that we have done well by one another. 1587 01:21:25,831 --> 01:21:26,373 Never! 1588 01:21:26,435 --> 01:21:28,866 I would argue that this network is defined by what the 1589 01:21:28,891 --> 01:21:30,686 NEWS department has accomplished. 1590 01:21:30,744 --> 01:21:35,210 I would also argue not saying no is not the same as not censoring. 1591 01:21:36,202 --> 01:21:37,202 Really? 1592 01:21:38,704 --> 01:21:40,593 You should teach journalism. 1593 01:21:41,740 --> 01:21:43,026 Well, let me ask you this. 1594 01:21:43,170 --> 01:21:47,650 Why is it that you always refer to him as the junior senator from Wisconsin? 1595 01:21:47,675 --> 01:21:49,615 Because he's the junior senator from Wisconsin. 1596 01:21:52,124 --> 01:21:53,124 Not likely. 1597 01:21:54,507 --> 01:21:56,450 You taunt him, Ed. 1598 01:21:56,663 --> 01:21:58,844 Like a cat with a ball of string. 1599 01:22:00,243 --> 01:22:02,343 But now you see you've opened the door. 1600 01:22:02,874 --> 01:22:05,004 News with a dash of commentary. 1601 01:22:06,978 --> 01:22:10,698 What happens when it isn't Edward R. Murrow 1602 01:22:10,723 --> 01:22:11,904 minding the store? 1603 01:22:17,067 --> 01:22:18,228 What do you want to do, Bill? 1604 01:22:20,304 --> 01:22:23,684 I'm going to take your show from half an hour to an hour. 1605 01:22:24,757 --> 01:22:26,617 But it won't be a weekly program. 1606 01:22:26,642 --> 01:22:28,604 And it won't be on Tuesday night. 1607 01:22:29,324 --> 01:22:30,324 When would it be? 1608 01:22:30,460 --> 01:22:32,956 Sunday afternoon. 1609 01:22:36,083 --> 01:22:37,243 How many episodes? 1610 01:22:37,864 --> 01:22:38,864 Five. 1611 01:22:44,110 --> 01:22:45,700 Why don't you just fire me, Bill? 1612 01:22:47,257 --> 01:22:50,360 I don't think it's what either of us wants. 1613 01:22:52,983 --> 01:22:53,983 You owe me five shows. 1614 01:22:56,704 --> 01:22:58,833 You won't like the subject matter? 1615 01:22:58,858 --> 01:23:00,997 No, probably not. 1616 01:23:09,514 --> 01:23:11,314 He wants me to lay a few people off. 1617 01:23:15,020 --> 01:23:16,020 I'm sure. 1618 01:23:16,917 --> 01:23:20,960 Let's do the next show about the downfall of television. 1619 01:23:23,013 --> 01:23:27,213 So if the Senate votes to censure McCarthy, what happens then? 1620 01:23:28,314 --> 01:23:30,154 He sits in the back row. 1621 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,305 But they don't kick him out. 1622 01:23:32,330 --> 01:23:33,490 No, he stays. 1623 01:23:33,515 --> 01:23:36,434 He just loses all of his power. 1624 01:23:37,347 --> 01:23:38,807 He's already lost all of his power. 1625 01:23:40,254 --> 01:23:41,254 Right. 1626 01:23:42,150 --> 01:23:43,500 Now they just teach him a lesson. 1627 01:23:43,994 --> 01:23:44,994 Yeah. 1628 01:23:48,343 --> 01:23:51,633 They're moving, See It Now, to Sunday afternoon. 1629 01:23:55,144 --> 01:23:56,144 Uh-oh. 1630 01:23:58,564 --> 01:23:59,564 How many episodes? 1631 01:23:59,764 --> 01:24:00,764 Five. 1632 01:24:05,126 --> 01:24:08,964 Well ... might as well go down swinging. 1633 01:24:10,384 --> 01:24:12,724 We'll do the story about the migrant farm workers. 1634 01:24:12,749 --> 01:24:14,593 Make a couple of enemies. 1635 01:24:15,897 --> 01:24:18,337 The most trusted man in America is Milton Berle. 1636 01:24:19,644 --> 01:24:20,644 See? 1637 01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:23,140 Maybe you should have worn a dress. 1638 01:24:24,917 --> 01:24:26,557 My legs are too skinny. 1639 01:24:27,325 --> 01:24:28,490 Feel like a Scotch? 1640 01:24:28,724 --> 01:24:29,724 Scotch is good. 1641 01:24:30,379 --> 01:24:32,844 Did you know that Joe and Shirley were married? 1642 01:24:33,123 --> 01:24:34,123 Sure. 1643 01:24:35,573 --> 01:24:37,023 Did everyone know? 1644 01:24:37,947 --> 01:24:38,947 Pretty much. 1645 01:24:40,024 --> 01:24:43,604 Mr. Cole, I meant to do you no personal injury. 1646 01:24:43,684 --> 01:24:47,184 And if I did, I beg your pardon. 1647 01:24:47,673 --> 01:24:51,239 Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. 1648 01:24:51,264 --> 01:24:52,824 But you've done enough. 1649 01:24:53,374 --> 01:24:57,096 Have you no sense of decency, sir? 1650 01:24:57,124 --> 01:25:01,944 At long last, have you left no sense of decency? 1651 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,379 I know this hurts you, Mr. Wells. 1652 01:25:04,404 --> 01:25:05,173 Let's get the Scotch. 1653 01:25:05,198 --> 01:25:05,833 I'll say it. 1654 01:25:05,858 --> 01:25:09,704 Mr. Campbell, as a point of personal privilege, I'd like to finish this. 1655 01:25:09,705 --> 01:25:11,664 Senator, I think it hurts you too, sir. 1656 01:25:11,824 --> 01:25:12,824 I'd like to finish this. 1657 01:25:12,884 --> 01:25:17,284 Mr. McCarthy, I will not discuss this further with you. 1658 01:25:17,324 --> 01:25:23,626 You have sat within six feet of me and could have asked me about Fred Fisher. 1659 01:25:23,911 --> 01:25:25,880 You have seen fit to bring it out. 1660 01:25:26,083 --> 01:25:32,724 And if there is a God in heaven, it will do neither you nor your cause any good. 1661 01:25:33,165 --> 01:25:35,466 I will not discuss it further. 1662 01:25:35,637 --> 01:25:37,999 I will not ask Mr. Cole anymore. 1663 01:25:38,024 --> 01:25:39,024 What does he say? 1664 01:25:39,170 --> 01:25:43,116 You, Mr. Chairman, may, if you will, call the next witness. 1665 01:25:46,624 --> 01:25:49,470 Are there any questions to come from the members of the chair? 1666 01:25:55,814 --> 01:26:00,954 I begin by saying our history will be what we make of it. 1667 01:26:02,136 --> 01:26:04,914 If we go on as we are, then history will take its revenge. 1668 01:26:06,010 --> 01:26:08,220 And retribution will not limp in catching up with us. 1669 01:26:10,073 --> 01:26:14,640 Just once in a while, let us exalt the importance of ideas and information. 1670 01:26:14,966 --> 01:26:20,304 Let us dream to the extent of saying that on a given Sunday night, the time normally 1671 01:26:20,329 --> 01:26:26,913 used by Ed Sullivan is given over to a clinical survey on the state of American education. 1672 01:26:28,153 --> 01:26:33,273 And a week or two later, the time normally used by Steve Allen is devoted to a 1673 01:26:33,298 --> 01:26:35,718 thoroughgoing study of American policies in the Middle East. 1674 01:26:37,981 --> 01:26:41,161 Would the corporate image of their respective sponsors be damaged? 1675 01:26:41,799 --> 01:26:45,460 Would the stockholders rise up in their wrath and complain? 1676 01:26:46,674 --> 01:26:49,954 Would anything happen other than a few million people would have received a 1677 01:26:49,979 --> 01:26:53,776 little illumination on subjects that may well determine the future of this country? 1678 01:26:56,128 --> 01:26:58,394 To those who say people wouldn't look, they wouldn't be 1679 01:26:58,419 --> 01:27:04,813 interested, they're too complacent, indifferent, insolent. 1680 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,660 I can only reply there is, in one reporter's opinion, 1681 01:27:09,685 --> 01:27:12,164 considerable evidence against that contention. 1682 01:27:12,189 --> 01:27:15,700 But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? 1683 01:27:17,107 --> 01:27:20,047 Because if they are right, and these instruments are good for nothing but to 1684 01:27:20,072 --> 01:27:26,163 entertain, and amuse, and insulate, then the tube is flickering now. 1685 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,780 And we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. 1686 01:27:36,180 --> 01:27:38,053 One, a two, a three, a kick. 1687 01:27:38,094 --> 01:27:40,275 Ladies and gentlemen, here he is. Fats Dominos. 1688 01:27:40,300 --> 01:27:41,574 Good evening, I'm Mike Wallace. 1689 01:27:41,714 --> 01:27:45,134 This is a program of fact, news, information, and observation. 1690 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:45,940 Thank you very much. 1691 01:27:45,969 --> 01:27:47,655 Now is the time... 1692 01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:50,088 ...to make real the promises of democracy. 1693 01:27:50,112 --> 01:27:52,405 Our goal is not the victory of might... 1694 01:27:52,429 --> 01:27:53,621 ...from Dallas, Texas... 1695 01:27:53,645 --> 01:27:54,355 ...but the vindication of right. 1696 01:27:54,379 --> 01:28:00,059 ...the flash, apparently official, President Kennedy died at 1 P.M. 1697 01:28:00,086 --> 01:28:01,639 - This is one small step ... - Central Standard Time. 1698 01:28:01,664 --> 01:28:02,363 ...for man 1699 01:28:03,250 --> 01:28:04,494 ... one giant leap ... 1700 01:28:04,519 --> 01:28:06,403 Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me. 1701 01:28:06,428 --> 01:28:07,199 Sock it to me? 1702 01:28:07,259 --> 01:28:09,174 Ladies and gentlemen, the Beatles. 1703 01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:12,759 What happened here at Kent State University to find a name. 1704 01:28:12,839 --> 01:28:13,859 The President's a crook. 1705 01:28:13,879 --> 01:28:14,699 Well, I'm not a crook. 1706 01:28:14,759 --> 01:28:17,760 - The Space Shuttle Challenger ...has exploded. - Mr. Gorbachev ... 1707 01:28:17,932 --> 01:28:19,246 ...teared down this wall. 1708 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,280 ...it doesn't fit. 1709 01:28:20,334 --> 01:28:22,479 If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. 1710 01:28:22,480 --> 01:28:23,875 They're supposed to be married in three weeks. 1711 01:28:23,899 --> 01:28:25,533 What are you doing living with him? 1712 01:28:26,179 --> 01:28:28,913 You are not the father. 1713 01:28:29,379 --> 01:28:30,759 ...weapons of mass destruction. 1714 01:28:30,972 --> 01:28:32,992 ...get rolled by the Bush administration. 1715 01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:34,179 ...he's got him, he's got him. 1716 01:28:34,219 --> 01:28:36,686 ...New York City, this is the World Trade Center. 1717 01:28:36,711 --> 01:28:38,423 ... a big explosion has just occured. 1718 01:28:38,456 --> 01:28:40,371 ...what exactly happened on 9-11... 1719 01:28:40,395 --> 01:28:42,779 ...conspiracy theories continue to saturate the Internet... 1720 01:28:42,780 --> 01:28:44,088 ...a terrorist fist jab... 1721 01:28:44,112 --> 01:28:44,959 ...he was wearing this tan suit... 1722 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,588 ...for all you kids watching at home... ...Santa just is white... 1723 01:28:47,612 --> 01:28:48,319 ...the big lie... 1724 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:49,788 ...centers on Dominion voting system... 1725 01:28:49,812 --> 01:28:51,159 ...companies called Dominion... 1726 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,638 ...another in a series of stolen elections... 1727 01:28:53,662 --> 01:28:55,619 ...President Biden has a photographic memory... 1728 01:28:55,620 --> 01:28:58,005 ...he's totally focused... very sharp in meetings... 1729 01:28:58,029 --> 01:28:59,859 - Forget about the evidence - ...alternative facts to that... 1730 01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:03,959 ...FBI operatives were organizing the attack on the Capitol... 1731 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:07,155 ...FBI had 26 of their people on the inside... 1732 01:29:07,179 --> 01:29:08,559 ...false flag operations... 1733 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:09,971 ...seeing millions of dollars... 1734 01:29:09,995 --> 01:29:12,778 ...NBC News agreed to settle a defamation lawsuit... 1735 01:29:12,803 --> 01:29:15,979 ...AP reporter was barred from an Oval Office event... ...also from Air Force One... 1736 01:29:15,980 --> 01:29:18,285 ...has barred the Associated Press... 1737 01:29:18,309 --> 01:29:20,899 ...inappropriate offenses... ...the CNN has retracted... 1738 01:29:20,900 --> 01:29:25,439 ... a false story about a demokratic effort ... ...the Force is extremely dangerous... 1739 01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:26,188 ...to our democracy... 1740 01:29:26,212 --> 01:29:26,921 ...it's extremely dangerous... 1741 01:29:26,945 --> 01:29:27,799 ...to our democracy... 1742 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,771 ...a democracy ... ...it's a crisis of democracy... 1743 01:29:29,795 --> 01:29:30,759 ...racist... 1744 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,919 ...disaffected... ...to kill the coronavirus... 1745 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,039 ... fact checkers ... ... eating the pets ... 1746 01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,759 ...please raise your right hand and repeat after me... 1747 01:30:12,765 --> 01:30:18,356 These instruments can teach… ...they can illuminate... 1748 01:30:19,183 --> 01:30:24,529 They can even inspire... but they can do so only to the 1749 01:30:24,530 --> 01:30:27,723 extent that humans are determined to use them to those ends. 1750 01:30:28,570 --> 01:30:32,420 Otherwise ... they're merely wires and lights in a box. 1751 01:30:34,579 --> 01:30:43,209 There is a great ... and perhaps decisive battle to be fought ... against ignorance, 1752 01:30:44,709 --> 01:30:45,586 intolerance, 1753 01:30:47,275 --> 01:30:48,383 indifference. 1754 01:30:51,579 --> 01:30:54,243 It's a fight for the very soul of this republic. 1755 01:30:56,799 --> 01:30:58,850 And so the question is a very simple one. 1756 01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:03,170 Not what power unchecked can do. 1757 01:31:03,519 --> 01:31:05,373 We have seen that answer. 1758 01:31:06,630 --> 01:31:07,630 No. 1759 01:31:09,469 --> 01:31:11,130 The question is... 1760 01:31:12,605 --> 01:31:14,690 what are you prepared to do? 1761 01:31:42,009 --> 01:31:43,769 The fault, dear Brutus ... 1762 01:31:53,455 --> 01:31:54,455 Good night. 1763 01:31:55,102 --> 01:31:56,102 And good luck. 1764 01:31:58,887 --> 01:32:06,127 [ Subtitles by ClassicLover ] [ @ subd l.org ] 1765 01:33:17,049 --> 01:33:20,969 You've been watching an exclusive live production of Broadway Play Good Night and 1766 01:33:20,970 --> 01:33:23,569 Good Luck starring George Clooney here on CNN. 1767 01:33:23,909 --> 01:33:26,969 The first time that Broadway Play has been broadcast live around the world. 1768 01:33:27,029 --> 01:33:30,469 You can see the cast still up on the stage, including George Clooney, 1769 01:33:30,529 --> 01:33:33,109 who was Tony-nominated for his performance in this production. 1770 01:33:33,429 --> 01:33:35,229 We're going to speak to some of them shortly. 1771 01:33:35,389 --> 01:33:35,949 I'm Anderson Cooper. 1772 01:33:36,129 --> 01:33:40,049 Welcome to our post-show special, Good Night and Good Luck, Truth and Power. 1773 01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:43,449 We're about a mile away from the Winter Garden Theater with a live studio audience 1774 01:33:43,450 --> 01:33:45,770 of journalism and communications students and 1775 01:33:45,771 --> 01:33:48,310 professors, all of whom watched tonight's performance. 1776 01:33:48,834 --> 01:33:52,269 The world of journalism and media that they are studying and may soon enter is 1777 01:33:52,270 --> 01:33:54,509 vastly different in many ways than Murrow's day. 1778 01:33:54,609 --> 01:33:57,009 But there are, of course, parallels to what Murrow has done. 1779 01:33:57,010 --> 01:33:58,010 Murrow faced as well. 1780 01:33:58,079 --> 01:34:00,141 I'm joined here by a panel of renowned journalists and 1781 01:34:00,142 --> 01:34:02,929 writers from the world of television, newspapers and podcasts. 1782 01:34:03,519 --> 01:34:06,969 I'll also talk exclusively with the former anchor of the CBS Evening News and the 1783 01:34:06,970 --> 01:34:10,429 longtime 60 Minutes correspondent, Scott Kelly, about why he says journalism 1784 01:34:10,430 --> 01:34:14,489 is under attack and about CBS's ongoing legal battle with President Trump. 1785 01:34:14,769 --> 01:34:18,469 With me right now, Walter Isaacson, professor of history at Tulane University, 1786 01:34:18,749 --> 01:34:20,089 former CEO of CNN. 1787 01:34:20,269 --> 01:34:21,329 He actually hired me. 1788 01:34:21,759 --> 01:34:26,909 He's also the author of numerous best-selling books about Leonardo da Vinci, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk. 1789 01:34:26,910 --> 01:34:27,289 And others. 1790 01:34:27,879 --> 01:34:30,769 Also here, Connie Chung, former co-anchor of the CBS Evening News. 1791 01:34:30,849 --> 01:34:34,149 She was also an anchor here at CNN as well as ABC and NBC News. 1792 01:34:34,289 --> 01:34:36,209 She's the author of the book Connie and Miriam's. 136158

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