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They had the look,
they had that power.
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They had put it all together.
It was a total package.
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The face paint, the shoulder pads,
and jacked to the sky.
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Man, they trained their asses off.
They hit the ring like badasses.
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We were two badasses
trying to be wrestlers.
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They were wrestlers
trying to be badasses.
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They were like the guys in Mad Max.
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They were meaner
than the guys in Mad Max.
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In the history
of professional wrestling,
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no duo has dominated the ring
like Hawk and Animal,
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The Road Warriors.
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When we'd go to Japan,
they were like Godzilla.
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You look at them and went,
"Shit. I hope they don't kill me."
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They were legitimate tough guys.
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They clawed their way to the top,
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becoming one of wrestling's
biggest attractions.
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But an unrelenting lifestyle
for one, led to their downfall.
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He partied hard, played hard.
He lived hard.
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That switch would flip
after the match, and bam!
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I woke up this morning,
this is where I felt sick!
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It becomes a way out
as well as an escape.
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You'll feel like you wanna be dead
when we're done with you!
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The road can eat you alive.
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At the age of 46, Road Warrior, Hawk,
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passed away
of a suspected heart attack.
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I literally cried like a baby.
I mean, that was my friend.
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I've been through hell
and back with this guy.
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The art of tag team wrestling
engages fans
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in a dynamic, far more complex way
than one-on-one matches.
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The greatest tag team duos
in history share a 6th sense,
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operating as two halves
of one whole.
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There's no one without the other.
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And no team proves that
more than Mike "Hawk" Hegstrand
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and Joe "Animal" Laurinaitis.
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In an era dominated
by iconic personalities...
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Just what exactly goes through
the Road Warriors' mind!
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...whose matches
were the star attraction,
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The Road Warriors break the mold
as comic book heroes come to life
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and post-apocalyptic warriors
beyond the realms of earth.
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The most important thing to us
has always been beating people up!
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Their larger than life personas
propelled them to main event status,
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winning titles wherever they went.
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The price for success is high,
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and in this episode, we reveal
the heavy cost paid by both men
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and how their wrestling brotherhood
met a heartbreaking end.
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Tag team is the most
interesting part of wrestling.
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Tag team wrestling is an art.
It's a four-person athletic dance.
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I'm Road Warrior, Animal,
one half of the greatest tag team
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in the history of pro wrestling,
The Road Warriors.
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There's more of a story told
with the tag team than the single.
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You can't just put two guys together
and make them a tag.
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You need guys
that know each other.
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My name is Barry Darsow.
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I was The Repo Man
and Demolition Smash.
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I thought we had incredible matches
with The Road Warriors.
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What made Road Warriors
successful was they really clicked.
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Everybody believed they could beat
anybody and they looked incredible.
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I saw the "it".
These two have the "it" factor.
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Paul Ellering, manager of
The Road Warriors for 20 years.
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The Road Warriors, it's a group that
comes along once every generation.
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And they're always copied,
never duplicated.
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Hawk and Animal
are just two no-nonsense badasses.
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Hawk was the off-the-wall flier guy
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and Animal was like
the buck stops here.
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Most teams had one big guy
and one little guy.
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Here, you got two fricking monsters.
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They could do things that,
prior to them, big guys didn't do.
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I'm Nikita Koloff,
not from Russia,
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although that's what I portrayed
for years in wrestling.
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It was the chemistry of tag team,
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picking the guy up on the shoulder,
coming off the top rope.
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The Doomsday, you know,
he flew off of the top turn buckle
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and that was the ultimate finish
in wrestling for decades.
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They knew what each other
was thinking.
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But sometimes,
Animal knew more than Hawk
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as far as what was going on.
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Joe was much more patient
than Mike was.
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You hear stories
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of how Mike would snap in an instant
or fly off the handle.
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Oh, yeah. We got along instantly.
I was like 18 year's old.
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And I knew of Mike Hegstrand,
known as a loose cannon, tough guy.
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In 1977, Mike Hegstrand
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and Joe Laurinaitis are two kids
on the streets
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of Northeast Minneapolis, a tough,
working-class neighborhood.
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You know, I was at
Jesse "The Body" Ventura's gym.
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I'm doing inclines,
and I got like 315 pounds on the bar
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and, all of a sudden,
in the middle of my set,
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I get this, whack! On my chest.
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This big, fat palm print.
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He goes, "Laurinaitis, you should be
lifting more weights than me."
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That was meeting
Mike Hegstrand.
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This is a great school photo of Mike
and he was voted class bully.
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-Yeah, you can see it there.
-I think that was staged, but...
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Mike's reputation
in school was a scrapper.
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His idea of a good time
was to go beat up someone.
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Just stay away from him, he'll be
a great friend. But don't cross him.
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I'm Rich Hegstrand,
Mike's older brother.
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And I'm Dan Hegstrand.
I was four years younger than Mike.
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Mike was a lost soul as far as,
"What am I gonna do."
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And our mom had passed away.
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Come on, bro. You can do it.
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But he obviously found his way,
but it was a bit of a road.
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Was hyperactive, didn't sit still.
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If he was sitting still,
his leg was bouncing.
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He had a lot of energy
to lift weights and punch people.
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Yeah.
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The way we put it,
I'm from the other side of the tracks
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and Hawk was pretty much
the toughest guy his side,
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and I was the toughest guy
on my side.
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My name is Scott Norton.
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Pro Wrestler from
Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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I grew up with Mike Hegstrand,
Hawk.
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He was gonna, kind of like,
mark his territory in his school.
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He got into a brawl with a guy from
south high school. Knocked him out.
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And with a guy from north high,
knocked him out.
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Went to west, same thing.
And he would condition himself.
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He would punch himself in the face,
and I mean, it wasn't just a...
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I don't even want
to hit my hand that hard.
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Fractures between
each one of his teeth.
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Basically broke his face.
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Their hard-hitting lifestyle
growing up in Northeast Minneapolis
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would serve as a training ground
for their careers.
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Their circle of friends
soon expands
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to include a massively talented
roster of future superstars.
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Pretty interesting that Minneapolis
was just a mecca of guys
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who ended up in the crazy world
of professional wrestling.
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Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig,
The Road Warriors,
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and John Nord, and Barry Darsow.
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Ah, Nikita Koloff. Rick Rude.
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Scott Norton, too.
We all knew of each other.
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We got closer as Hawk would ask me
to fill in working at this bar,
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Gramma B's, down in Minneapolis.
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It's at one of Minneapolis'
toughest bars
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that Joe and Mike get a chance
to cut their teeth.
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Paid the bills
and it was a perfect outlet for him.
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And why was that?
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He could beat up people
and get paid for it.
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I mean,
it was just like wrestling, so...
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I can't mention any names,
but the guy who owned the bar,
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he dealt in coke
and when someone owed him money,
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he'd say, "You need
a conversation with this guy."
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I remember one time,
Hawk had one leg, I had one leg,
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and were hung him over
the Franklin Avenue Bridge
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and said, "You need to pay up."
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At Gramma B's, there was a strip bar
in the afternoon.
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And they'd have wet T-shirt contests.
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It brought some of the worst
of the worst guys.
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Every night, something happened.
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Lo and behold,
the bartender was Ed Sharkey.
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I'd heard of Ed Sharkey before
because he wrestled in the AWA,
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and he comes to us and goes,
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"I'm gonna do wrestling school.
You wanna do it?"
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We looked at each other, said,
"I don't know if I want to."
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I'm thinking to myself,
"What can it hurt?"
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My name is Eddie Sharkey. I've been
in wrestling for most of my life.
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Starting on a carnival,
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I've been a professional wrestler,
referee, promoter, trainer.
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I've done about everything.
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Eddie ended up having
a church in Northeast Minneapolis
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and he had a boxing ring downstairs.
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Eddie was a character. He'd sit
and go, "Yeah, guys, good tackle,"
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you know, "good drop kick."
But Eddie never got out of his chair.
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If I would leave the room,
I said, "No, don't try a suplex.
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You're gonna hurt yourself."
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I'd walk out for whatever reason
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and one's got the other in the air.
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Ed never showed us how to throw
what they call a "working punch".
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So, we would literally back up
and go, bam!
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And punch each other.
Nose would be broken and bleeding.
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Eddie never smartened us up
on what was going on until,
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he says, "Well, here's what you do."
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Eddie soon realizes
that this promising crop of talent
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might have a future
in the squared circle.
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Ole Anderson was a good wrestler.
Another Minnesota guy.
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He became a promoter.
Worked for Ted Turner.
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And he came up to Gramma B's.
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One night, a guy was misbehaving
and I had to escort him out.
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I had a hand on his collar
and one on his belt loop,
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and threw him through the front door,
and we had this trip wire outside.
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And we used to gauge each other
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by how many flips a guy
could do around this wire.
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When the guy gets done flipping,
he lands on Ole Anderson's shoes.
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And I said, "How you doing?"
Then I turn around, back in the bar.
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Next thing you know,
Ole brings me down to Atlanta.
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While Ole recruits Joe to work
in his Georgia territory,
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his future tag team partner
has already been scouted.
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Mike started first for Al Tomko,
up in Canada.
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You men that are married
to a good-looking wife,
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when your wife takes a look
at this man, she's gonna go crazy!
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I went down for Ole Anderson
as The Road Warrior, by myself.
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I looked like The Village People.
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When Joe broke into the business,
he had got his girlfriend pregnant.
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And Joe did the right thing,
meaning, he got married,
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and because he wanted to,
you know, raise his child.
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I was sending all my money
that I was making back home.
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I was wrestling nine times a week,
making $150 total.
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I lost 50 pounds of body weight.
I said, "I can't live off this."
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And Mike's experience wasn't
that great in Vancouver.
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So, we both came back to Minnesota.
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I could make more
one night bouncing
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than I was making
in two weeks.
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Ole Anderson came back into the bar
and Ed Sharkey showed him a picture
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that Mike had taken up in Vancouver.
Ole thought it was a picture of me.
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Eddie Sharkey goes,
"No, that's not Joe. That's Mike."
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And Ole goes,
"There's two of these guys?"
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"Joe and Mike, you're a tag team.
Be in Atlanta next week."
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He goes, "Son of a bitch."
Ole called me,
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"I want to bring you in
as The Road Warriors."
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From rough and tumble beginnings
in the Minneapolis bar scene,
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Joe and Mike are about
to be catapulted into super stardom
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and eventually
towards their own undoing.
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In 1983,
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Joe Laurinaitis and Mike Hegstrand
are recruited to wrestle in Georgia,
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except this time as a tag team.
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They have no idea they're about
to revolutionize wrestling.
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Hawk, thanks for being with us.
What got you started in wrestling?
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I started watching and thought
if they could, I could do it better,
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and first time we appeared on TV,
you know, we were both real green.
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And The Road Warriors moving up.
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The start of The Road Warriors on TV
was like surreal for Hawk and I
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because here's all these megastars
in Georgia Championship Wrestling.
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There's Sergeant Slaughter,
Tito Santana, and Dusty Rhodes,
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and I'm going, holy crap,
there's some superstars here.
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And then, here we are,
now we're a part of this.
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Upon their arrival in the territory,
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matchmaker Anderson approaches
his new tag team with a bold idea.
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They actually handed us the belts
when we got at the TV station.
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They say, "Here's your belt."
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We're like,
"Where did we win them?"
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They said, "In a tag team tournament
in Chicago."
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From Chicago!
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Ole says,
"This is gonna be the new tag team
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and they're Minnesota boys like you.
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Take care of them."
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The names,
they both came up with themselves.
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I think Ole pointed at me, says,
"You look like an Animal.
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He said to Hawk,
"You look like..."
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I forget what he said, but Hawk says,
"I think I'm a Hawk."
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So, it became Animal and Hawk.
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After their
very first match together,
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newly crowned champions Hawk
and Animal join with Paul Ellering.
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He acts as both their on
and off-screen manager,
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leading them to the big leagues.
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I just took them from that.
They jumped in my van, that was it.
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Paul was great
at fine tuning us.
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He said go with your raw strength.
Go with what you do best.
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We used to sit there at Denny's
and Paul would draw on a napkin.
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"Animal, you're here.
Hawk, you're here.
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Throw this guy
after you make the tag.
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Hawk, you drop down.
Incorporate that."
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We had motorcycle boots,
and we wore it down to the ring.
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After about a month, Ole goes,
"Hey, we got an idea for you guys.
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Remember the guy
in Road Warrior
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with the red mohawk
and feather in his ear?
255
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We want you to try and do something
with the face paint."
256
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And that became an evolution
because the early face paint was,
257
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like a black eye or something.
258
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But we were trying different things
at that time
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to try to get a painting
of expressing the way we feel,
260
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and Mike Hegstrand goes,
"Hey, I got another idea.
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What if Animal has a mohawk
to look like the guy in the movie?
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I'll shave a double mohawk
so when Animal and I bend over,
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we plug our heads in,
it looks like one unit."
264
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How did the spiked shoulder pads
work its way in?
265
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That came from Animal.
That was his idea.
266
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And it was genius on his part.
267
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I had a friend that worked
for Honeywell. He milled the spikes.
268
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I said, "I need some six-inch spikes,
269
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I want four-inch spikes,
and two-inch spikes,
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and I sat in my garage and drilled
holes in those shoulder pads."
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Licking my thumb,
like, fricking Picasso, right.
272
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Then I put some chains on, that was
the birth of the shoulder pads.
273
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They put them on
and it was just frosting on the cake.
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The people just ate it up.
These poor guys they're against.
275
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I mean, they ran people over.
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Hawk used to apologize to them,
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"I'm sorry for what's gonna happen,
but your ass is getting kicked."
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They were bad boys,
279
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but when they were bad,
they were very good.
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As long as we stayed away
from the guy's nuts
281
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and we didn't break their nose,
it was cool.
282
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But, if you look back,
some of those clotheslines,
283
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guys were doing natural flips
we were hitting them so hard.
284
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Cable was spreading
across the country,
285
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it was creating a revolution
in the wrestling business.
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Unlike other promotions
in the early 1980s,
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Georgia's World
Championship Wrestling
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enjoys a prime-time spot
on Atlanta's TBS,
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the first Superstation
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to be broadcast
across the entire USA.
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I told the guys, I think it was '84.
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I said, "We can work the whole world.
We'll just make it our territory."
293
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Paul would book us in the AWA
294
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or he would book us
for the Rougeau's up in Canada.
295
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Go to Puerto Rico for Carlos Colon,
and then go to the NWA.
296
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We were going all over the world,
not tied to any one company.
297
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Paul's instrumental in not letting
the promoters manipulate us.
298
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We were one of the few tag teams
that were main events every night.
299
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We never stayed in any one place
and it kept us fresh.
300
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It was good because they bring us in,
and the place would fill up.
301
00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,640
Everybody in the business recognized
that Road Warrior pop.
302
00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,120
Just loud. I've lost all my hearing.
303
00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,520
Even today, if someone gets
a good cheer going down,
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it's called The Road Warrior Pop.
305
00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,840
At what point did you realize
that you guys were getting huge?
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First trip to Japan, we got there,
we get off the flight.
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We do an interview.
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In this room was literally
150 photographers
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and reporters from all over
the country of Japan.
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They said there was more reporters
than when Michael Jackson came.
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We will fight tonight
like we never fought before!
312
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Japan wanted us
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and the Japanese people
always like to be scared.
314
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,120
You know, we're entertainers
as well as wrestlers.
315
00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,040
Hey, you guys hungry?
316
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,840
The Japanese responded to us
because we were ahead of our time.
317
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,840
We were so nothing
like the Japanese wrestlers.
318
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,200
We don't care who it is.
We're gonna stomp everybody.
319
00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:16,080
We wrestled some top guys, man,
you know, Killer Khan.
320
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,040
When I pressed Killer Khan,
Japanese people said, "Wakaranai."
321
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,880
Like, "I can't believe it!"
322
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,920
Killer Khan was 6'3",
6'4", 365 pounds.
323
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,840
I press slammed him over my head.
Then I gorilla slammed him down.
324
00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,920
It was national news.
325
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,600
It was no secret that, you know,
Mike liked to party.
326
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,240
Partied hard, ran hard.
There was nothing he was afraid of.
327
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,440
No situation bothered him.
328
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,560
Mike got involved with these people,
the Japanese mafia over there.
329
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,840
They'd pick him up
and go out to dinner,
330
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,920
and wouldn't see him
for two days.
331
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,560
He'd meet Japanese mafia
and tell me about,
332
00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,600
if you made a mistake,
they just took a digit off.
333
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,440
And he'd come home with stacks
of $100 bill, which he declared.
334
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:11,240
Joe was more the guy that would
go out to dinner and, go to the room,
335
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,400
and get some sleep
and have a workout the next day.
336
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,960
Where Hawk, he was wild,
he wanted to go out to the bar.
337
00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,840
He had no shut off valve, man.
338
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,480
It was just like go,
100 miles an hour, all the time.
339
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,440
That's when it started
hitting a nerve with me.
340
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,240
By 1986,
341
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:35,240
The Road Warriors become one
of the top wrestling attractions.
342
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:40,400
To be that good in that many
territories, it's unprecedented.
343
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,880
My vision was to make money,
you know, for all of us.
344
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,680
This is an opportunity that
comes along once in a lifetime.
345
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,200
Everybody out there watching,
we'd like to kick your teeth in too.
346
00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:54,880
My first reaction to seeing Mike
was, wow.
347
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,440
This is amazing.
348
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,840
It just took you by surprise
how far he had come
349
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000
in such a short period of time,
really.
350
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,840
As their popularity grows,
351
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,280
the promotions booking them realize
352
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,120
they're not getting a run
of the mill tag team,
353
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,640
they're getting rising stars
with a guaranteed sellout crowd.
354
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,560
The greatest thing
The Road Warriors is...
355
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,120
we never had to change. Whether
we were babyface or heel.
356
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,480
I mean, we were stone cold heels
until we wrestled the Koloffs.
357
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,160
Probably some of the best matches
I remember
358
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,280
are the Russian Chain matches
we had.
359
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,920
And now we're getting USA cheers
and cheers from the fans.
360
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,280
We were always so bad as heels,
it made us great babyfaces.
361
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,680
Your winners of the match,
The Road Warriors!
362
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,240
In early 1986,
363
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,440
Carolina's Jim Crocket Promotions
approaches The Road Warriors
364
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,760
with an offer to headline
their flagship event.
365
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,920
Dusty Rhodes calls us and says,
"Hey, we got this idea."
366
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,400
A scaffold match.
Never been done on a national scale.
367
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,640
Man, I was 310 pounds, 315 pounds,
and Hawk was 270.
368
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,080
Then you had The Midnight Express.
They were over 200 pounds, each.
369
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,440
Three days
before the scaffold match,
370
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,240
Hawk broke a small bone in the
bottom of his leg over in Tokyo.
371
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520
We were the old school,
show must go on.
372
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,680
And he wrestled up there
with a broken leg in a boot.
373
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,040
He didn't want to let the people down
because it was sold out
374
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,360
and it was a big, big deal.
375
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,840
What you see in a lot of sports
and wrestling's no different
376
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:39,040
is there's injuries and there's pain,
and you self-medicate after a while.
377
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,040
You don't even go to a doctor.
And then it becomes a vicious cycle.
378
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,920
And that's probably
where Hawk was at that time.
379
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,840
When and what signs
did you start noticing
380
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,880
when Hawk's lifestyle out of the ring
was out of hand?
381
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,200
It started getting bad
latter part of NWA,
382
00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,040
WCW run before we went to WWF.
383
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,480
The drinking is a no brainer.
384
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,240
Hawk was a straight up
vodka on the rocks guy.
385
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,040
Muscle relaxers were big.
386
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,240
I'd say 85 percent of the guys
that died early in wrestling
387
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,760
the common denominator
was muscle relaxers.
388
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,080
I think Joe
was very disappointed in Hawk
389
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,800
and he didn't let that out
so people knew it.
390
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320
But, knowing Joe, I could see that.
391
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,520
I think it's just like any marriage,
which it kind of was,
392
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,760
I don't think they always
saw eye to eye on everything.
393
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,160
I think there was
friction there at times.
394
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,920
It wasn't until
we really got into WWF years
395
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040
where it really started to get bad.
396
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,560
The Road Warriors conquered the
wrestling world with one exception
397
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,720
and the pressures
of performing in the WWF
398
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,680
will soon set the stage
for their downfall.
399
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,840
The WWF was always on our screen.
400
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,240
It looked like they were the place
to go in this wrestling war,
401
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,320
if you wanted to be
on the winning side. And we did.
402
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,240
You're gonna feel the pain
by the hands of the Legion of Doom!
403
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,000
Vince had hired Modern Day Warrior,
Kerry Von Erich.
404
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,120
He already had the Ultimate Warrior.
405
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,640
He says, "You've
been The Road Warriors.
406
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,000
Can you think of a different name
that we could use?"
407
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,440
I said,
"How about the Legion of Doom?"
408
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,920
"I love The Legion of Doom!
Let's call you guys that!"
409
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,920
It was actually He-Man.
410
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,520
The most powerful man
in the universe!
411
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,920
Hawk would watch that all the time.
He always watched He-Man.
412
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,560
This was Hawk.
"Back at the Legion of Doom!"
413
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,800
He'd just start to make up stories
and this is while we're driving.
414
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,880
He'd start to make up
that we were The Legion of Doom.
415
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,760
The WWF, on the road at the time,
was a grind.
416
00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:00,160
And you were busy 14 days on,
four days off, all year long.
417
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,040
Your whole life is no sleep.
418
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,120
But when you get in the ring,
then you get an injury.
419
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,800
Well, now there's no sleep,
you have to train.
420
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,720
That injury doesn't go away
and you have to perform.
421
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,640
So now you take a pain pill.
422
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,520
Pretty soon, you're drinking,
taking pain pills, taking this, that.
423
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,280
That's kind of the cycle
that a lot of guys got into.
424
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,360
But now, Hawk's downward spiral
is about to intersect
425
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,600
with The Road Warrior's
historic climb to the top
426
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,200
and in front
of a record-setting crowd.
427
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,400
To the non-wrestling fan,
I wrestled for years in the WWF.
428
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,280
The Godfather's probably
what I'm most well known for.
429
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,480
All right, so we're in this club,
and then all of a sudden,
430
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960
Vince decides
to take everybody's finish.
431
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:57,040
In The Road Warrior's case,
it hurt people.
432
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,600
Have you seen
their finish?
433
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,280
I wouldn't take it in the ring!
And Vince took that in the club.
434
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,880
The CEO of this big, fucking company
435
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,520
is taking people's finishes
in a fucking titty bar?
436
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,600
Just, I was like...
437
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,560
Just as The Road Warriors
are reaching new heights
438
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,040
at Vince McMahon's WWF,
439
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,200
Hawk's substance abuse
was becoming harder to hide.
440
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,280
That's when we were starting
to do the Pay Per Views now.
441
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,440
Now we're doing big,
huge events and everything else,
442
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,840
so there was a lot of respect and
pride in what you did for your work
443
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,520
because you wanted to be
top dog on Pay Per View.
444
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,240
Those WWF years was when
it started getting real nasty.
445
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,720
He would fail a drug test,
and there would be three months off.
446
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Me being a tag team partner,
I had to take time off with him.
447
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,200
But Mike, again, he wasn't shy
about hiding anything.
448
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:59,840
Whether it was his drinking
or his drug use, or his steroid use,
449
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680
he was pretty outspoken
about all of it.
450
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,400
As Hawk drifts closer to the edge,
451
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,640
over 80,000 fans await their match
at London's Wembley Stadium
452
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,960
and things are about
to come to a head.
453
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:19,040
Wembley Stadium was a classic,
they had 90,000 people there.
454
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,520
We were supposed to wrestle
for the championship in Wembley.
455
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,880
And getting ready to go out
and we're doing a run through.
456
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,560
McMahon's trying to tell us
what we're gonna do.
457
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:35,640
And Vince is fuming because
every time he tried to say something,
458
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,960
Hawk's going,
"Now Vince, I got this idea."
459
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:43,240
Found out later,
this was this thing called placidyls,
460
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,680
which is another hallucinogenic drug
that Hawk had took
461
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,200
and it lasts six hours.
462
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,280
We drive motorcycles to the ring.
463
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,520
We went from semi-main event match
against The Natural Disasters,
464
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,640
to wrestling Money Incorporated
their first or second match.
465
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,640
As Animal watches his partner step
into the ring,
466
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,840
it's clear that Hawk
is in no shape to perform.
467
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440
Getting in,
they wanted us to do the finish,
468
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,360
the Dooms Day off the top rope,
469
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,760
and I said, "We can't.
He'll fall off."
470
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,240
And he goes, "We gotta."
I said, "He can't."
471
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,680
They were watching him
and Hawk was inebriated
472
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,640
quite a bit
and, so we changed the finish.
473
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,160
Hawk's right in the middle.
I had to push him out of the way...
474
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,760
When Hawk was on, he was the best.
Nobody was better.
475
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,600
But when he was like that,
it kind of really...
476
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,880
I wasn't very happy with him.
477
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,320
I knew there was a
suspension coming, I was hot.
478
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,440
It's like, we're gonna spend millions
of dollars on TV
479
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,120
and do all this stuff
for these guys at Wembley,
480
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,640
the biggest show ever,
and he messed up...
481
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,000
Right there,
you're not the top guys anymore.
482
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,280
Irritated by Hawk's recklessness,
483
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,520
Animal chooses
to go his separate way, alone.
484
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,600
We went from that London taping
to Hershey, Pennsylvania to do TV.
485
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,800
And when we got to Hershey,
Paul Ellering and I are ready,
486
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,760
waiting for Hawk to do interviews.
Hawk hadn't shown.
487
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,120
Nobody knew where Hawk went.
488
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,120
He's not on the plane.
Nobody knew where Hawk was.
489
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,280
Got a phone call, and Hawk called
Vince's secretary and said, "I quit."
490
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,440
We're sitting there, like, okay,
now what am I gonna do?
491
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,520
Animal decides he's
not gonna chase his partner,
492
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,760
after performing the role of fixer
for so many years.
493
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,520
I think it just got the time
to draw the line in the sand
494
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,640
and, listen, man,
I've had enough.
495
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,480
I'm fricking done with this.
496
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,840
Joe was probably in a panic,
wondering how will we solve this?
497
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Wrestling is your whole life.
It's all you have.
498
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,880
Your family's at home,
and you finally get that push,
499
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,360
and you can't have something
be negative to bring you back down
500
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,320
and that's what was happening.
501
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,000
Mike, you know, a short fuse,
losing his temper
502
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840
whether it was with a promoter,
could have a impact on Joe's career
503
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,720
and even Ellering's career.
504
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160
I'm thinking,
I'm gonna be a business man,
505
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,360
and I'm gonna serve out the dates
that I have left with WWF,
506
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000
protect our name,
in case we want to come back.
507
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,920
I want to do these dates
so we leave on good terms.
508
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,400
To be business men.
509
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,440
I put my foot down
and Hawk was so out of his mind,
510
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,600
he called up a couple guys
511
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,760
and ended up working out
his own deal in Japan.
512
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,040
-Like, screw the team.
-He went on his own. We were done.
513
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,400
He tried it, had Kensuke Sasaki
dressing as The Power Warrior,
514
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,440
spiked shoulder pads,
face paint.
515
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,720
I said, that's our gimmick.
516
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,280
Hawk inadvertently leaves the future
of the biggest tag team in limbo
517
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:58,240
by replacing Animal and continuing
The Road Warriors' brand in Japan.
518
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,360
Standing in front of you
lies the future in tag team,
519
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,120
my new partner, Power Warrior!
520
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,960
What are you doing?
I'm not doing that in the U.S.
521
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,080
I'm not having anybody replace you.
I'm by myself!
522
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,800
I ended up doing a two on one match
and I herniated a couple discs.
523
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,200
Animal got injured
and there were like two years there
524
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,320
where I didn't do anything
with wrestling
525
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,480
and I didn't think I'd ever go back.
526
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,920
While Animal lies in wait recovering
from his injury, Hawk presses on.
527
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,440
But without the guidance
of his partner,
528
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760
he spirals out of control.
529
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,440
Three different times he'd been
rushed into an E.R. of drug overdose.
530
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,960
He said he had a collision
with an 18-wheeler
531
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,760
and rolled the pickup six times with
no seatbelt, and walked away from it.
532
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,800
I don't know how many
near death experiences Hawk had.
533
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,480
I know he had a few.
534
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:01,040
When he got Hep C,
like he got slapped in the face like.
535
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,920
He's not the first wrestler
that contracted that.
536
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Guys in this wrestling business, man,
used to do some crazy things,
537
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,640
speed balling, mixing drugs,
things like that,
538
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,840
where guys would share a needle,
"Oh, god dang. You guys are nuts."
539
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,000
He was on the interferon,
the medicine you get for Hep C.
540
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,560
He fricking cured himself
of the Hep C.
541
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,360
The worst part is the doctor gave him
a green light to go do whatever,
542
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,880
so he thought that meant, okay,
I can keep drinking and partying.
543
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Hawk's wild side shows no sign
of slowing down,
544
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,960
but in 1997, a new opportunity
arises from the WWF
545
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,520
and is too tempting
for either man to resist.
546
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,080
Vince McMahon has been great to us
and the WWF has been great to us.
547
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,200
They're a class organization
and we want to associate with class.
548
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,880
I knew it would come back
to us being The Road Warriors.
549
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,240
We were so unique
in the way we did everything
550
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,040
and so unique as a tag team.
551
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,600
Nothing else like it in wrestling.
552
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,160
Animal and I have become so close.
553
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Probably the only tag team
that's been around 14 years.
554
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,400
We're pretty much a unit.
555
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840
Their new contract comes
with a strict insurance policy,
556
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,360
guaranteeing they will make
their matches.
557
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,080
But WWF introduces
a third member to the team,
558
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,240
29-year-old ex-Denver Bronco,
Daren Drozdoff.
559
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,080
They introduce Droz
560
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,520
and he was gonna be the youngest
of The Road Warriors.
561
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,680
I remember when I first saw them.
They had been icons forever.
562
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Hey, this is Droz.
563
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,040
I'm one of the players they brought
in for The Road Warriors
564
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,880
to work with
and had a great run with them.
565
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,920
While the WWF has enforced
a contingency plan,
566
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000
it also sees The Road Warriors'
real life problems
567
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,280
as something it can capitalize on.
568
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,120
Vince McMahon said, "Hey, we want
to do this angle where Hawk's,
569
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,440
we're gonna portray him as drunk
and have it happen on TV."
570
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,560
-Is he inebriated?
-The ref's not gonna start?
571
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,640
He'd come out like staggering around
572
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,600
while they were saying I was trying
to separate them.
573
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,440
Droz just assaulting Hawk.
574
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,720
"We don't need him,
he's messed up again."
575
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,280
Droz! Delivering Hawk's
own move to Hawk!
576
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,800
Yeah, it was heartbreaking.
But that's wrestling.
577
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,320
They take the dominant part
of your personality
578
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800
and make it bigger.
579
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,080
It was kind of tough.
It's like, they're doing this.
580
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,440
But he had been through it
and didn't have a problem with it.
581
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,320
They wanted Hawk to climb
the Titantron,
582
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,280
they wanted me to portray like,
"Hey, Hawk, don't jump."
583
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,560
Hawk, I wish I could say
I know how you feel, but I can't!
584
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,920
But I care about your life!
585
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Droz made up,
586
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,520
pretended he was gonna go up
to the Titantron and help Hawk,
587
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,920
and Hawk had his demons
and he was drunk.
588
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680
When he went to grab him,
he pushed them.
589
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,440
Get his shirt... Got away.
590
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,560
To be honest with you,
I didn't really want to do the angle.
591
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:17,960
It was too close to what was going on
in real life. And that bothered me.
592
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,520
The angle is not only unpopular
with Hawk and Animal,
593
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,320
but with the fans as well.
594
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680
And once again, The Road Warriors
595
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,800
make the choice to hit the road
on their own terms.
596
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,440
We were wrestling in Australia,
and you had the beach, got drinks,
597
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,200
could buy Xanax over the counter,
and so it's just not a good mix.
598
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,600
Rumor had it three or four guys,
and Hawk was one of them,
599
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,160
had gotten ahold
of some party essentials,
600
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,720
and they were pretty much
up for two days.
601
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,040
When you're doing the coke
and the muscle relaxer,
602
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,960
you're going like a yo-yo.
Your heart can't take that.
603
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,960
And as I'm looking around the arena
by the entrance,
604
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,280
I see this big crowd of people.
605
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,240
I'm thinking to myself,
somebody came back,
606
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,720
they're laying down.
607
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,840
I push everybody aside and it's Hawk,
they're putting an oxygen mask on.
608
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,960
I said, "Whoa. What are you doing?
He's gotta wrestle."
609
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,480
They said, "He can't.
610
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,200
This guy's ready to stroke out,"
and took him to the hospital.
611
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,360
Hawk had cardiomyopathy,
his heart was about ready to blow up.
612
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,120
And he calls me up and he says,
"Animal, you gotta come get me."
613
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,680
I said, "What's going on?"
614
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,840
He goes, "I am not dying
in this fricking country."
615
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,960
Hawk and I were brothers,
when we were on the road.
616
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,920
It was a hard situation because there
was such love of the guy,
617
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,440
but the hate of what was going on.
618
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,680
So, I picked Hawk up,
619
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,800
checked him out of the hospital
against doctor's orders,
620
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,320
and from Sydney, flew to LA
621
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,440
and from LA,
he was going to Tampa.
622
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,160
I said, "You're on your own."
623
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,640
When it seems Hawk
and Animal's run
624
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,440
as wrestling's most dominant
tag team is about to come to an end,
625
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,280
an unlikely event
brings them back together.
626
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Animal is faced with no choice
but to strike out on his own
627
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,240
when Hawk's drug affliction
threatens to ruin their careers.
628
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040
I had gotten home off the road.
I got done working out,
629
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,880
and there's six 300-pound guys
called The Christian Power Team.
630
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,440
They did this event.
I was pretty impressed by it.
631
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,640
Eventually,
Joe shared that with me.
632
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,800
I say, "Why don't you come
to this conference in Phoenix?
633
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,000
Come out."
He goes, "Could Hawk come?"
634
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,120
They came to Phoenix. I remember
Mike was the first one to the altar
635
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,720
and wanted to give
his life to the lord.
636
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,040
And that weekend,
we actually even baptized him.
637
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,400
In the swimming pool,
we did a water baptism with him.
638
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,320
And from that point on,
Hawk lived in a good way.
639
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,560
I think he found religion,
and then married a gal named Dale.
640
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:04,240
And he was very happy with her.
He was a different person with her.
641
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,240
My motivation's different than
when I first started.
642
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,240
My motivation now is my family,
my fiancé.
643
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400
To make sure if something happened,
she'll not be hurt.
644
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,480
He used to say, "God has nine lives,
645
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,920
but God gave me 10,
so I can give my life to Jesus."
646
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,560
He was moving out of his house
off the beach
647
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,360
and had just moved
the last piece of heavy furniture
648
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,120
for his wife, Dale.
649
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,280
And he said, "I'm gonna go upstairs
and lay down. I don't feel well."
650
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,120
And I was out in my backyard,
and I get a phone call.
651
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,640
Friend of mine, Bob, he goes,
"Hey, have you talked to Mike?"
652
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,800
I said, "Yeah, man,
talked to him last night."
653
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,600
"Huh, have you talked to him
yet today?"
654
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,800
And I said, "No."
And he goes, "Joe, Mike died."
655
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,320
It was an early Sunday morning,
October 19th,
656
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,240
when wrestling was saddened to hear
Michael Hegstrand had passed away
657
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,760
at the young age of 46.
658
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,800
It wasn't that he OD'd or whatever.
It was his heart just stopped.
659
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680
One of the hardest things
I had to go through.
660
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:13,840
Well, I was just at home
and Animal calls me and tells me.
661
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,600
You know, "Hawk is gone."
662
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,800
Joanie, my wife,
I said, "We gotta get the..."
663
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:31,280
"We gotta get the black van
and drive to the funeral."
664
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,800
The old black van I took him
to the airport our first day.
665
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,280
I still had that black van.
666
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,160
Went to the K-Mart
and got cans of black spray paint,
667
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,120
cover up all the rust.
668
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,000
And we got in the black van
and drove all the way to Tampa.
669
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,680
Fifty miles an hour.
Got passed by 10,000 cars.
670
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,840
Do you remember the things
you said at the eulogy?
671
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,120
Yeah. I remember.
672
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,440
October 19th, 2003.
673
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:19,440
The dark clouds
covered the bright sun.
674
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,680
Today we lost our friend.
675
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,600
Our brother of planes, trains,
and automobiles.
676
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,840
Many miles.
677
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:38,560
If I could steal a line from,
from The Outlaw Josey Wales,
678
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:45,720
"Hawk, it is good that men like us
met in the struggle of life."
679
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,720
Hawk's death brings to an end
a partnership
680
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,560
that has not been matched in
wrestling ever since.
681
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,400
He was unique both in
and out of the ring.
682
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:01,560
A warrior, a partner, a friend,
and a brother.
683
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,920
He, he wasn't Hawk.
684
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Yeah. I think that is a key point is,
he was still Mike.
685
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,440
We never looked at him as Hawk.
686
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,920
He really gave a shit
about his friends.
687
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:22,000
He just had your back
and he probably knew I needed it.
688
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,240
Biggest compliment
that I can make to Hawk
689
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,760
is that everybody
liked to be around him.
690
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,720
So, it was a huge void.
691
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,760
And Animal would know a lot more
about that than me
692
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,040
because they've been together
and always thought of as a twosome.
693
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,960
A lot things in common.
The gym, worked hard.
694
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,440
A great tag team.
695
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,640
Performed unbelievably in the ring.
But, you know, totally different.
696
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,000
They were brothers, you know,
brothers, they love each other,
697
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,280
but they'll fight
once in a while.
698
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,040
There were times we were
at each other's throat,
699
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,560
we were together so much.
700
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:06,480
But 99.9 percent of the time
there was a common respect there.
701
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,040
It's over half my life, man,
I was with Hawk.
702
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,520
From being stars in Japan,
to being family members,
703
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,240
to being brothers,
to everything else.
704
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,040
Now what do I do now he's gone?
And that's the hardest thing.
705
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,240
We'll be remembered
as the greatest tag team in wrestling
706
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,160
and I'd like to go down as
a tough dude with a tough partner.
707
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Hawk should be remembered
as one half of the greatest tag team.
708
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,640
He had one of the best punches
in wrestling,
709
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,880
one of the best interviews, for sure.
710
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,600
Well!
711
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,600
Hawk was definitely a character.
712
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,840
A part of the wrestling business
died when Hawk died.
713
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000
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