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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,600 They had the look, they had that power. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,880 They had put it all together. It was a total package. 3 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:12,880 The face paint, the shoulder pads, and jacked to the sky. 4 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:17,360 Man, they trained their asses off. They hit the ring like badasses. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,520 We were two badasses trying to be wrestlers. 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,960 They were wrestlers trying to be badasses. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,640 They were like the guys in  Mad Max. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,680 They were meaner than the guys in  Mad Max. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,160 In the history of professional wrestling, 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,000 no duo has dominated the ring like Hawk and Animal, 11 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:38,120 The Road Warriors. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,040 When we'd go to Japan, they were like Godzilla. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,840 You look at them and went, "Shit. I hope they don't kill me." 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,720 They were legitimate tough guys. 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,040 They clawed their way to the top, 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,320 becoming one of wrestling's biggest attractions. 17 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:57,680 But an unrelenting lifestyle for one, led to their downfall. 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,320 He partied hard, played hard. He lived hard. 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,120 That switch would flip after the match, and bam! 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,720 I woke up this morning, this is where I felt sick! 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,080 It becomes a way out as well as an escape. 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,800 You'll feel like you wanna be dead when we're done with you! 23 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:17,120 The road can eat you alive. 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,480 At the age of 46, Road Warrior, Hawk, 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 passed away of a suspected heart attack. 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,760 I literally cried like a baby. I mean, that was my friend. 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,960 I've been through hell and back with this guy. 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,440 The art of tag team wrestling engages fans 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:45,720 in a dynamic, far more complex way than one-on-one matches. 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,120 The greatest tag team duos in history share a 6th sense, 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,600 operating as two halves of one whole. 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,720 There's no one without the other. 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,520 And no team proves that more than Mike "Hawk" Hegstrand 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,640 and Joe "Animal" Laurinaitis. 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,480 In an era dominated by iconic personalities... 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Just what exactly goes through the Road Warriors' mind! 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,800 ...whose matches were the star attraction, 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,480 The Road Warriors break the mold as comic book heroes come to life 39 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:17,240 and post-apocalyptic warriors beyond the realms of earth. 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,280 The most important thing to us has always been beating people up! 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Their larger than life personas propelled them to main event status, 42 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,600 winning titles wherever they went. 43 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,400 The price for success is high, 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,400 and in this episode, we reveal the heavy cost paid by both men 45 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,720 and how their wrestling brotherhood met a heartbreaking end. 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,720 Tag team is the most interesting part of wrestling. 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Tag team wrestling is an art. It's a four-person athletic dance. 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,360 I'm Road Warrior, Animal, one half of the greatest tag team 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,360 in the history of pro wrestling, The Road Warriors. 50 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,640 There's more of a story told with the tag team than the single. 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,400 You can't just put two guys together and make them a tag. 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,400 You need guys that know each other. 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,000 My name is Barry Darsow. 54 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,240 I was The Repo Man and Demolition Smash. 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,600 I thought we had incredible matches with The Road Warriors. 56 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,000 What made Road Warriors successful was they really clicked. 57 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:26,080 Everybody believed they could beat anybody and they looked incredible. 58 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,840 I saw the "it". These two have the "it" factor. 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Paul Ellering, manager of The Road Warriors for 20 years. 60 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,280 The Road Warriors, it's a group that comes along once every generation. 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,400 And they're always copied, never duplicated. 62 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Hawk and Animal are just two no-nonsense badasses. 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,080 Hawk was the off-the-wall flier guy 64 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,160 and Animal was like the buck stops here. 65 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,800 Most teams had one big guy and one little guy. 66 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Here, you got two fricking monsters. 67 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,280 They could do things that, prior to them, big guys didn't do. 68 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,440 I'm Nikita Koloff, not from Russia, 69 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,680 although that's what I portrayed for years in wrestling. 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,600 It was the chemistry of tag team, 71 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,960 picking the guy up on the shoulder, coming off the top rope. 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,880 The Doomsday, you know, he flew off of the top turn buckle 73 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,920 and that was the ultimate finish in wrestling for decades. 74 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,520 They knew what each other was thinking. 75 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,080 But sometimes, Animal knew more than Hawk 76 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,840 as far as what was going on. 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,360 Joe was much more patient than Mike was. 78 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,840 You hear stories 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,200 of how Mike would snap in an instant or fly off the handle. 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,200 Oh, yeah. We got along instantly. I was like 18 year's old. 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,680 And I knew of Mike Hegstrand, known as a loose cannon, tough guy. 82 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:50,680 In 1977, Mike Hegstrand 83 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:53,320 and Joe Laurinaitis are two kids on the streets 84 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,960 of Northeast Minneapolis, a tough, working-class neighborhood. 85 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,280 You know, I was at Jesse "The Body" Ventura's gym. 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,240 I'm doing inclines, and I got like 315 pounds on the bar 87 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,800 and, all of a sudden, in the middle of my set, 88 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,760 I get this, whack! On my chest. 89 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,280 This big, fat palm print. 90 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,000 He goes, "Laurinaitis, you should be lifting more weights than me." 91 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,240 That was meeting Mike Hegstrand. 92 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,440 This is a great school photo of Mike and he was voted class bully. 93 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,400 -Yeah, you can see it there. -I think that was staged, but... 94 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,320 Mike's reputation in school was a scrapper. 95 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,480 His idea of a good time was to go beat up someone. 96 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,240 Just stay away from him, he'll be a great friend. But don't cross him. 97 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,040 I'm Rich Hegstrand, Mike's older brother. 98 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,560 And I'm Dan Hegstrand. I was four years younger than Mike. 99 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,240 Mike was a lost soul as far as, "What am I gonna do." 100 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,640 And our mom had passed away. 101 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,600 Come on, bro. You can do it. 102 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,520 But he obviously found his way, but it was a bit of a road. 103 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Was hyperactive, didn't sit still. 104 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,120 If he was sitting still, his leg was bouncing. 105 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:14,640 He had a lot of energy to lift weights and punch people. 106 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,640 Yeah. 107 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,760 The way we put it, I'm from the other side of the tracks 108 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,760 and Hawk was pretty much the toughest guy his side, 109 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,040 and I was the toughest guy on my side. 110 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,680 My name is Scott Norton. 111 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:29,400 Pro Wrestler from Minneapolis, Minnesota. 112 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,760 I grew up with Mike Hegstrand, Hawk. 113 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,680 He was gonna, kind of like, mark his territory in his school. 114 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:40,040 He got into a brawl with a guy from south high school. Knocked him out. 115 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,400 And with a guy from north high, knocked him out. 116 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,840 Went to west, same thing. And he would condition himself. 117 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,240 He would punch himself in the face, and I mean, it wasn't just a... 118 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,680 I don't even want to hit my hand that hard. 119 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,320 Fractures between each one of his teeth. 120 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Basically broke his face. 121 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,480 Their hard-hitting lifestyle growing up in Northeast Minneapolis 122 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,320 would serve as a training ground for their careers. 123 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,360 Their circle of friends soon expands 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,880 to include a massively talented roster of future superstars. 125 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Pretty interesting that Minneapolis was just a mecca of guys 126 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,040 who ended up in the crazy world of professional wrestling. 127 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,240 Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig, The Road Warriors, 128 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,920 and John Nord, and Barry Darsow. 129 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,920 Ah, Nikita Koloff. Rick Rude. 130 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Scott Norton, too. We all knew of each other. 131 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,280 We got closer as Hawk would ask me to fill in working at this bar, 132 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Gramma B's, down in Minneapolis. 133 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,320 It's at one of Minneapolis' toughest bars 134 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,240 that Joe and Mike get a chance to cut their teeth. 135 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,720 Paid the bills and it was a perfect outlet for him. 136 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,200 And why was that? 137 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,840 He could beat up people and get paid for it. 138 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,800 I mean, it was just like wrestling, so... 139 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,000 I can't mention any names, but the guy who owned the bar, 140 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,840 he dealt in coke and when someone owed him money, 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 he'd say, "You need a conversation with this guy." 142 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,360 I remember one time, Hawk had one leg, I had one leg, 143 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,160 and were hung him over the Franklin Avenue Bridge 144 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,440 and said, "You need to pay up." 145 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,840 At Gramma B's, there was a strip bar in the afternoon. 146 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,080 And they'd have wet T-shirt contests. 147 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,680 It brought some of the worst of the worst guys. 148 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,120 Every night, something happened. 149 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,160 Lo and behold, the bartender was Ed Sharkey. 150 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,360 I'd heard of Ed Sharkey before because he wrestled in the AWA, 151 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,120 and he comes to us and goes, 152 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,840 "I'm gonna do wrestling school. You wanna do it?" 153 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,400 We looked at each other, said, "I don't know if I want to." 154 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:45,800 I'm thinking to myself, "What can it hurt?" 155 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,320 My name is Eddie Sharkey. I've been in wrestling for most of my life. 156 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,160 Starting on a carnival, 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,800 I've been a professional wrestler, referee, promoter, trainer. 158 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,640 I've done about everything. 159 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,360 Eddie ended up having a church in Northeast Minneapolis 160 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,560 and he had a boxing ring downstairs. 161 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,840 Eddie was a character. He'd sit and go, "Yeah, guys, good tackle," 162 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,440 you know, "good drop kick." But Eddie never got out of his chair. 163 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,560 If I would leave the room, I said, "No, don't try a suplex. 164 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,840 You're gonna hurt yourself." 165 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,720 I'd walk out for whatever reason 166 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,560 and one's got the other in the air. 167 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,240 Ed never showed us how to throw what they call a "working punch". 168 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,440 So, we would literally back up and go, bam! 169 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,920 And punch each other. Nose would be broken and bleeding. 170 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,440 Eddie never smartened us up on what was going on until, 171 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,800 he says, "Well, here's what you do." 172 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Eddie soon realizes that this promising crop of talent 173 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,240 might have a future in the squared circle. 174 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,960 Ole Anderson was a good wrestler. Another Minnesota guy. 175 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,400 He became a promoter. Worked for Ted Turner. 176 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,680 And he came up to Gramma B's. 177 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:06,240 One night, a guy was misbehaving and I had to escort him out. 178 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,160 I had a hand on his collar and one on his belt loop, 179 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,320 and threw him through the front door, and we had this trip wire outside. 180 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,880 And we used to gauge each other 181 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,680 by how many flips a guy could do around this wire. 182 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,400 When the guy gets done flipping, he lands on Ole Anderson's shoes. 183 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:26,160 And I said, "How you doing?" Then I turn around, back in the bar. 184 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Next thing you know, Ole brings me down to Atlanta. 185 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,840 While Ole recruits Joe to work in his Georgia territory, 186 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,800 his future tag team partner has already been scouted. 187 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,640 Mike started first for Al Tomko, up in Canada. 188 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,560 You men that are married to a good-looking wife, 189 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,520 when your wife takes a look at this man, she's gonna go crazy! 190 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:53,640 I went down for Ole Anderson as The Road Warrior, by myself. 191 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,920 I looked like The Village People. 192 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,840 When Joe broke into the business, he had got his girlfriend pregnant. 193 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,200 And Joe did the right thing, meaning, he got married, 194 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,680 and because he wanted to, you know, raise his child. 195 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,760 I was sending all my money that I was making back home. 196 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,240 I was wrestling nine times a week, making $150 total. 197 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,840 I lost 50 pounds of body weight. I said, "I can't live off this." 198 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,640 And Mike's experience wasn't that great in Vancouver. 199 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,720 So, we both came back to Minnesota. 200 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,840 I could make more one night bouncing 201 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,680 than I was making in two weeks. 202 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Ole Anderson came back into the bar and Ed Sharkey showed him a picture 203 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,480 that Mike had taken up in Vancouver. Ole thought it was a picture of me. 204 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Eddie Sharkey goes, "No, that's not Joe. That's Mike." 205 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,960 And Ole goes, "There's two of these guys?" 206 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,880 "Joe and Mike, you're a tag team. Be in Atlanta next week." 207 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,320 He goes, "Son of a bitch." Ole called me, 208 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,880 "I want to bring you in as The Road Warriors." 209 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,840 From rough and tumble beginnings in the Minneapolis bar scene, 210 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Joe and Mike are about to be catapulted into super stardom 211 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:03,280 and eventually towards their own undoing. 212 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:06,320 In 1983, 213 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,440 Joe Laurinaitis and Mike Hegstrand are recruited to wrestle in Georgia, 214 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,680 except this time as a tag team. 215 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,880 They have no idea they're about to revolutionize wrestling. 216 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,120 Hawk, thanks for being with us. What got you started in wrestling? 217 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,600 I started watching and thought if they could, I could do it better, 218 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,320 and first time we appeared on TV, you know, we were both real green. 219 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,400 And The Road Warriors moving up. 220 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:37,360 The start of The Road Warriors on TV was like surreal for Hawk and I 221 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,320 because here's all these megastars in Georgia Championship Wrestling. 222 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,320 There's Sergeant Slaughter, Tito Santana, and Dusty Rhodes, 223 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,400 and I'm going, holy crap, there's some superstars here. 224 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,840 And then, here we are, now we're a part of this. 225 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Upon their arrival in the territory, 226 00:12:54,200 --> 00:13:00,040 matchmaker Anderson approaches his new tag team with a bold idea. 227 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,000 They actually handed us the belts when we got at the TV station. 228 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,720 They say, "Here's your belt." 229 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,000 We're like, "Where did we win them?" 230 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,760 They said, "In a tag team tournament in Chicago." 231 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,840 From Chicago! 232 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,040 Ole says, "This is gonna be the new tag team 233 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,640 and they're Minnesota boys like you. 234 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,120 Take care of them." 235 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,240 The names, they both came up with themselves. 236 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,840 I think Ole pointed at me, says, "You look like an Animal. 237 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,080 He said to Hawk, "You look like..." 238 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:35,080 I forget what he said, but Hawk says, "I think I'm a Hawk." 239 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,200 So, it became Animal and Hawk. 240 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,640 After their very first match together, 241 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,640 newly crowned champions Hawk and Animal join with Paul Ellering. 242 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,760 He acts as both their on and off-screen manager, 243 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,120 leading them to the big leagues. 244 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,840 I just took them from that. They jumped in my van, that was it. 245 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,600 Paul was great at fine tuning us. 246 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,760 He said go with your raw strength. Go with what you do best. 247 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,240 We used to sit there at Denny's and Paul would draw on a napkin. 248 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,600 "Animal, you're here. Hawk, you're here. 249 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Throw this guy after you make the tag. 250 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,440 Hawk, you drop down. Incorporate that." 251 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,840 We had motorcycle boots, and we wore it down to the ring. 252 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,680 After about a month, Ole goes, "Hey, we got an idea for you guys. 253 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,520 Remember the guy in  Road Warrior 254 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,080 with the red mohawk and feather in his ear? 255 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,040 We want you to try and do something with the face paint." 256 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,960 And that became an evolution because the early face paint was, 257 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,800 like a black eye or something. 258 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,760 But we were trying different things at that time 259 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,680 to try to get a painting of expressing the way we feel, 260 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,800 and Mike Hegstrand goes, "Hey, I got another idea. 261 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,200 What if Animal has a mohawk to look like the guy in the movie? 262 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,640 I'll shave a double mohawk so when Animal and I bend over, 263 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,240 we plug our heads in, it looks like one unit." 264 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,080 How did the spiked shoulder pads work its way in? 265 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,000 That came from Animal. That was his idea. 266 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,520 And it was genius on his part. 267 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,640 I had a friend that worked for Honeywell. He milled the spikes. 268 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,280 I said, "I need some six-inch spikes, 269 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,800 I want four-inch spikes, and two-inch spikes, 270 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,320 and I sat in my garage and drilled holes in those shoulder pads." 271 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,120 Licking my thumb, like, fricking Picasso, right. 272 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,520 Then I put some chains on, that was the birth of the shoulder pads. 273 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,600 They put them on and it was just frosting on the cake. 274 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,240 The people just ate it up. These poor guys they're against. 275 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,240 I mean, they ran people over. 276 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,360 Hawk used to apologize to them, 277 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,440 "I'm sorry for what's gonna happen, but your ass is getting kicked." 278 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,840 They were bad boys, 279 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,800 but when they were bad, they were very good. 280 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,440 As long as we stayed away from the guy's nuts 281 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,400 and we didn't break their nose, it was cool. 282 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,360 But, if you look back, some of those clotheslines, 283 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,240 guys were doing natural flips we were hitting them so hard. 284 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,960 Cable was spreading across the country, 285 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,840 it was creating a revolution in the wrestling business. 286 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,880 Unlike other promotions in the early 1980s, 287 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,320 Georgia's World Championship Wrestling 288 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,880 enjoys a prime-time spot on Atlanta's TBS, 289 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,640 the first Superstation 290 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,800 to be broadcast across the entire USA. 291 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,000 I told the guys, I think it was '84. 292 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,920 I said, "We can work the whole world. We'll just make it our territory." 293 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,440 Paul would book us in the AWA 294 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,400 or he would book us for the Rougeau's up in Canada. 295 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,840 Go to Puerto Rico for Carlos Colon, and then go to the NWA. 296 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,160 We were going all over the world, not tied to any one company. 297 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,440 Paul's instrumental in not letting the promoters manipulate us. 298 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,720 We were one of the few tag teams that were main events every night. 299 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,960 We never stayed in any one place and it kept us fresh. 300 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:08,480 It was good because they bring us in, and the place would fill up. 301 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,640 Everybody in the business recognized that Road Warrior pop. 302 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,120 Just loud. I've lost all my hearing. 303 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Even today, if someone gets a good cheer going down, 304 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,080 it's called The Road Warrior Pop. 305 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,840 At what point did you realize that you guys were getting huge? 306 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,680 First trip to Japan, we got there, we get off the flight. 307 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,240 We do an interview. 308 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,960 In this room was literally 150 photographers 309 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:39,760 and reporters from all over the country of Japan. 310 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,160 They said there was more reporters than when Michael Jackson came. 311 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,640 We will fight tonight like we never fought before! 312 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,840 Japan wanted us 313 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,640 and the Japanese people always like to be scared. 314 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,120 You know, we're entertainers as well as wrestlers. 315 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,040 Hey, you guys hungry? 316 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,840 The Japanese responded to us because we were ahead of our time. 317 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,840 We were so nothing like the Japanese wrestlers. 318 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,200 We don't care who it is. We're gonna stomp everybody. 319 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:16,080 We wrestled some top guys, man, you know, Killer Khan. 320 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,040 When I pressed Killer Khan, Japanese people said,  "Wakaranai." 321 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,880 Like, "I can't believe it!" 322 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,920 Killer Khan was 6'3", 6'4", 365 pounds. 323 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,840 I press slammed him over my head. Then I gorilla slammed him down. 324 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,920 It was national news. 325 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,600 It was no secret that, you know, Mike liked to party. 326 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,240 Partied hard, ran hard. There was nothing he was afraid of. 327 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,440 No situation bothered him. 328 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,560 Mike got involved with these people, the Japanese mafia over there. 329 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,840 They'd pick him up and go out to dinner, 330 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,920 and wouldn't see him for two days. 331 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,560 He'd meet Japanese mafia and tell me about, 332 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,600 if you made a mistake, they just took a digit off. 333 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,440 And he'd come home with stacks of $100 bill, which he declared. 334 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:11,240 Joe was more the guy that would go out to dinner and, go to the room, 335 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,400 and get some sleep and have a workout the next day. 336 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Where Hawk, he was wild, he wanted to go out to the bar. 337 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,840 He had no shut off valve, man. 338 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,480 It was just like go, 100 miles an hour, all the time. 339 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,440 That's when it started hitting a nerve with me. 340 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,240 By 1986, 341 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:35,240 The Road Warriors become one of the top wrestling attractions. 342 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:40,400 To be that good in that many territories, it's unprecedented. 343 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,880 My vision was to make money, you know, for all of us. 344 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,680 This is an opportunity that comes along once in a lifetime. 345 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Everybody out there watching, we'd like to kick your teeth in too. 346 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:54,880 My first reaction to seeing Mike was, wow. 347 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,440 This is amazing. 348 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,840 It just took you by surprise how far he had come 349 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 in such a short period of time, really. 350 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,840 As their popularity grows, 351 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,280 the promotions booking them realize 352 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,120 they're not getting a run of the mill tag team, 353 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,640 they're getting rising stars with a guaranteed sellout crowd. 354 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,560 The greatest thing The Road Warriors is... 355 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,120 we never had to change. Whether we were babyface or heel. 356 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,480 I mean, we were stone cold heels until we wrestled the Koloffs. 357 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,160 Probably some of the best matches I remember 358 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,280 are the Russian Chain matches we had. 359 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,920 And now we're getting USA cheers and cheers from the fans. 360 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,280 We were always so bad as heels, it made us great babyfaces. 361 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,680 Your winners of the match, The Road Warriors! 362 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,240 In early 1986, 363 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,440 Carolina's Jim Crocket Promotions approaches The Road Warriors 364 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,760 with an offer to headline their flagship event. 365 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,920 Dusty Rhodes calls us and says, "Hey, we got this idea." 366 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,400 A scaffold match. Never been done on a national scale. 367 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,640 Man, I was 310 pounds, 315 pounds, and Hawk was 270. 368 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,080 Then you had The Midnight Express. They were over 200 pounds, each. 369 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,440 Three days before the scaffold match, 370 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,240 Hawk broke a small bone in the bottom of his leg over in Tokyo. 371 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520 We were the old school, show must go on. 372 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,680 And he wrestled up there with a broken leg in a boot. 373 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,040 He didn't want to let the people down because it was sold out 374 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,360 and it was a big, big deal. 375 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,840 What you see in a lot of sports and wrestling's no different 376 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:39,040 is there's injuries and there's pain, and you self-medicate after a while. 377 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,040 You don't even go to a doctor. And then it becomes a vicious cycle. 378 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,920 And that's probably where Hawk was at that time. 379 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,840 When and what signs did you start noticing 380 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,880 when Hawk's lifestyle out of the ring was out of hand? 381 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,200 It started getting bad latter part of NWA, 382 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,040 WCW run before we went to WWF. 383 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,480 The drinking is a no brainer. 384 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Hawk was a straight up vodka on the rocks guy. 385 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,040 Muscle relaxers were big. 386 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,240 I'd say 85 percent of the guys that died early in wrestling 387 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,760 the common denominator was muscle relaxers. 388 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,080 I think Joe was very disappointed in Hawk 389 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,800 and he didn't let that out so people knew it. 390 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320 But, knowing Joe, I could see that. 391 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,520 I think it's just like any marriage, which it kind of was, 392 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,760 I don't think they always saw eye to eye on everything. 393 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,160 I think there was friction there at times. 394 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,920 It wasn't until we really got into WWF years 395 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040 where it really started to get bad. 396 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,560 The Road Warriors conquered the wrestling world with one exception 397 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,720 and the pressures of performing in the WWF 398 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,680 will soon set the stage for their downfall. 399 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,840 The WWF was always on our screen. 400 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,240 It looked like they were the place to go in this wrestling war, 401 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,320 if you wanted to be on the winning side. And we did. 402 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,240 You're gonna feel the pain by the hands of the Legion of Doom! 403 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Vince had hired Modern Day Warrior, Kerry Von Erich. 404 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,120 He already had the Ultimate Warrior. 405 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,640 He says, "You've been The Road Warriors. 406 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Can you think of a different name that we could use?" 407 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,440 I said, "How about the Legion of Doom?" 408 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,920 "I love The Legion of Doom! Let's call you guys that!" 409 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,920 It was actually  He-Man. 410 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,520 The most powerful man in the universe! 411 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,920 Hawk would watch that all the time. He always watched  He-Man. 412 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,560 This was Hawk. "Back at the Legion of Doom!" 413 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,800 He'd just start to make up stories and this is while we're driving. 414 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,880 He'd start to make up that we were The Legion of Doom. 415 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,760 The WWF, on the road at the time, was a grind. 416 00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:00,160 And you were busy 14 days on, four days off, all year long. 417 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,040 Your whole life is no sleep. 418 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,120 But when you get in the ring, then you get an injury. 419 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Well, now there's no sleep, you have to train. 420 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,720 That injury doesn't go away and you have to perform. 421 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,640 So now you take a pain pill. 422 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,520 Pretty soon, you're drinking, taking pain pills, taking this, that. 423 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,280 That's kind of the cycle that a lot of guys got into. 424 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,360 But now, Hawk's downward spiral is about to intersect 425 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,600 with The Road Warrior's historic climb to the top 426 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,200 and in front of a record-setting crowd. 427 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,400 To the non-wrestling fan, I wrestled for years in the WWF. 428 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,280 The Godfather's probably what I'm most well known for. 429 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,480 All right, so we're in this club, and then all of a sudden, 430 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Vince decides to take everybody's finish. 431 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:57,040 In The Road Warrior's case, it hurt people. 432 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,600 Have you seen their finish? 433 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,280 I wouldn't take it in the ring! And Vince took that in the club. 434 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,880 The CEO of this big, fucking company 435 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,520 is taking people's finishes in a fucking titty bar? 436 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,600 Just, I was like... 437 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,560 Just as The Road Warriors are reaching new heights 438 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,040 at Vince McMahon's WWF, 439 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Hawk's substance abuse was becoming harder to hide. 440 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,280 That's when we were starting to do the Pay Per Views now. 441 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Now we're doing big, huge events and everything else, 442 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,840 so there was a lot of respect and pride in what you did for your work 443 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,520 because you wanted to be top dog on Pay Per View. 444 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,240 Those WWF years was when it started getting real nasty. 445 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,720 He would fail a drug test, and there would be three months off. 446 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,080 Me being a tag team partner, I had to take time off with him. 447 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,200 But Mike, again, he wasn't shy about hiding anything. 448 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:59,840 Whether it was his drinking or his drug use, or his steroid use, 449 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680 he was pretty outspoken about all of it. 450 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,400 As Hawk drifts closer to the edge, 451 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,640 over 80,000 fans await their match at London's Wembley Stadium 452 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,960 and things are about to come to a head. 453 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:19,040 Wembley Stadium was a classic, they had 90,000 people there. 454 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,520 We were supposed to wrestle for the championship in Wembley. 455 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,880 And getting ready to go out and we're doing a run through. 456 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,560 McMahon's trying to tell us what we're gonna do. 457 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:35,640 And Vince is fuming because every time he tried to say something, 458 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,960 Hawk's going, "Now Vince, I got this idea." 459 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:43,240 Found out later, this was this thing called placidyls, 460 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,680 which is another hallucinogenic drug that Hawk had took 461 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,200 and it lasts six hours. 462 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,280 We drive motorcycles to the ring. 463 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,520 We went from semi-main event match against The Natural Disasters, 464 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,640 to wrestling Money Incorporated their first or second match. 465 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,640 As Animal watches his partner step into the ring, 466 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,840 it's clear that Hawk is in no shape to perform. 467 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440 Getting in, they wanted us to do the finish, 468 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,360 the Dooms Day off the top rope, 469 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,760 and I said, "We can't. He'll fall off." 470 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,240 And he goes, "We gotta." I said, "He can't." 471 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,680 They were watching him and Hawk was inebriated 472 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,640 quite a bit and, so we changed the finish. 473 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,160 Hawk's right in the middle. I had to push him out of the way... 474 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,760 When Hawk was on, he was the best. Nobody was better. 475 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,600 But when he was like that, it kind of really... 476 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,880 I wasn't very happy with him. 477 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,320 I knew there was a suspension coming, I was hot. 478 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,440 It's like, we're gonna spend millions of dollars on TV 479 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,120 and do all this stuff for these guys at Wembley, 480 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,640 the biggest show ever, and he messed up... 481 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,000 Right there, you're not the top guys anymore. 482 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,280 Irritated by Hawk's recklessness, 483 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,520 Animal chooses to go his separate way, alone. 484 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,600 We went from that London taping to Hershey, Pennsylvania to do TV. 485 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,800 And when we got to Hershey, Paul Ellering and I are ready, 486 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,760 waiting for Hawk to do interviews. Hawk hadn't shown. 487 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,120 Nobody knew where Hawk went. 488 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,120 He's not on the plane. Nobody knew where Hawk was. 489 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Got a phone call, and Hawk called Vince's secretary and said, "I quit." 490 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,440 We're sitting there, like, okay, now what am I gonna do? 491 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Animal decides he's not gonna chase his partner, 492 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,760 after performing the role of fixer for so many years. 493 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,520 I think it just got the time to draw the line in the sand 494 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,640 and, listen, man, I've had enough. 495 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,480 I'm fricking done with this. 496 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,840 Joe was probably in a panic, wondering how will we solve this? 497 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Wrestling is your whole life. It's all you have. 498 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,880 Your family's at home, and you finally get that push, 499 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,360 and you can't have something be negative to bring you back down 500 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,320 and that's what was happening. 501 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,000 Mike, you know, a short fuse, losing his temper 502 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840 whether it was with a promoter, could have a impact on Joe's career 503 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,720 and even Ellering's career. 504 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160 I'm thinking, I'm gonna be a business man, 505 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,360 and I'm gonna serve out the dates that I have left with WWF, 506 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000 protect our name, in case we want to come back. 507 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,920 I want to do these dates so we leave on good terms. 508 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,400 To be business men. 509 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,440 I put my foot down and Hawk was so out of his mind, 510 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,600 he called up a couple guys 511 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,760 and ended up working out his own deal in Japan. 512 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,040 -Like, screw the team. -He went on his own. We were done. 513 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,400 He tried it, had Kensuke Sasaki dressing as The Power Warrior, 514 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,440 spiked shoulder pads, face paint. 515 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,720 I said, that's our gimmick. 516 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Hawk inadvertently leaves the future of the biggest tag team in limbo 517 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:58,240 by replacing Animal and continuing The Road Warriors' brand in Japan. 518 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Standing in front of you lies the future in tag team, 519 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,120 my new partner, Power Warrior! 520 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,960 What are you doing? I'm not doing that in the U.S. 521 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,080 I'm not having anybody replace you. I'm by myself! 522 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,800 I ended up doing a two on one match and I herniated a couple discs. 523 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,200 Animal got injured and there were like two years there 524 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,320 where I didn't do anything with wrestling 525 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,480 and I didn't think I'd ever go back. 526 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,920 While Animal lies in wait recovering from his injury, Hawk presses on. 527 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,440 But without the guidance of his partner, 528 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760 he spirals out of control. 529 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,440 Three different times he'd been rushed into an E.R. of drug overdose. 530 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,960 He said he had a collision with an 18-wheeler 531 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,760 and rolled the pickup six times with no seatbelt, and walked away from it. 532 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,800 I don't know how many near death experiences Hawk had. 533 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,480 I know he had a few. 534 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:01,040 When he got Hep C, like he got slapped in the face like. 535 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,920 He's not the first wrestler that contracted that. 536 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,920 Guys in this wrestling business, man, used to do some crazy things, 537 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,640 speed balling, mixing drugs, things like that, 538 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,840 where guys would share a needle, "Oh, god dang. You guys are nuts." 539 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,000 He was on the interferon, the medicine you get for Hep C. 540 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,560 He fricking cured himself of the Hep C. 541 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,360 The worst part is the doctor gave him a green light to go do whatever, 542 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,880 so he thought that meant, okay, I can keep drinking and partying. 543 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,120 Hawk's wild side shows no sign of slowing down, 544 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,960 but in 1997, a new opportunity arises from the WWF 545 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,520 and is too tempting for either man to resist. 546 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,080 Vince McMahon has been great to us and the WWF has been great to us. 547 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,200 They're a class organization and we want to associate with class. 548 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,880 I knew it would come back to us being The Road Warriors. 549 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,240 We were so unique in the way we did everything 550 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,040 and so unique as a tag team. 551 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,600 Nothing else like it in wrestling. 552 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,160 Animal and I have become so close. 553 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,200 Probably the only tag team that's been around 14 years. 554 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,400 We're pretty much a unit. 555 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840 Their new contract comes with a strict insurance policy, 556 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,360 guaranteeing they will make their matches. 557 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,080 But WWF introduces a third member to the team, 558 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,240 29-year-old ex-Denver Bronco, Daren Drozdoff. 559 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,080 They introduce Droz 560 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,520 and he was gonna be the youngest of The Road Warriors. 561 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,680 I remember when I first saw them. They had been icons forever. 562 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,400 Hey, this is Droz. 563 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,040 I'm one of the players they brought in for The Road Warriors 564 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,880 to work with and had a great run with them. 565 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,920 While the WWF has enforced a contingency plan, 566 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000 it also sees The Road Warriors' real life problems 567 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,280 as something it can capitalize on. 568 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,120 Vince McMahon said, "Hey, we want to do this angle where Hawk's, 569 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,440 we're gonna portray him as drunk and have it happen on TV." 570 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,560 -Is he inebriated? -The ref's not gonna start? 571 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,640 He'd come out like staggering around 572 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,600 while they were saying I was trying to separate them. 573 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,440 Droz just assaulting Hawk. 574 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,720 "We don't need him, he's messed up again." 575 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Droz! Delivering Hawk's own move to Hawk! 576 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,800 Yeah, it was heartbreaking. But that's wrestling. 577 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,320 They take the dominant part of your personality 578 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800 and make it bigger. 579 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,080 It was kind of tough. It's like, they're doing this. 580 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,440 But he had been through it and didn't have a problem with it. 581 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,320 They wanted Hawk to climb the Titantron, 582 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,280 they wanted me to portray like, "Hey, Hawk, don't jump." 583 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,560 Hawk, I wish I could say I know how you feel, but I can't! 584 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,920 But I care about your life! 585 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,680 Droz made up, 586 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,520 pretended he was gonna go up to the Titantron and help Hawk, 587 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,920 and Hawk had his demons and he was drunk. 588 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680 When he went to grab him, he pushed them. 589 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,440 Get his shirt... Got away. 590 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,560 To be honest with you, I didn't really want to do the angle. 591 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:17,960 It was too close to what was going on in real life. And that bothered me. 592 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,520 The angle is not only unpopular with Hawk and Animal, 593 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,320 but with the fans as well. 594 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680 And once again, The Road Warriors 595 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,800 make the choice to hit the road on their own terms. 596 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,440 We were wrestling in Australia, and you had the beach, got drinks, 597 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,200 could buy Xanax over the counter, and so it's just not a good mix. 598 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,600 Rumor had it three or four guys, and Hawk was one of them, 599 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,160 had gotten ahold of some party essentials, 600 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,720 and they were pretty much up for two days. 601 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,040 When you're doing the coke and the muscle relaxer, 602 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,960 you're going like a yo-yo. Your heart can't take that. 603 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,960 And as I'm looking around the arena by the entrance, 604 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,280 I see this big crowd of people. 605 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,240 I'm thinking to myself, somebody came back, 606 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,720 they're laying down. 607 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,840 I push everybody aside and it's Hawk, they're putting an oxygen mask on. 608 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,960 I said, "Whoa. What are you doing? He's gotta wrestle." 609 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,480 They said, "He can't. 610 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,200 This guy's ready to stroke out," and took him to the hospital. 611 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,360 Hawk had cardiomyopathy, his heart was about ready to blow up. 612 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,120 And he calls me up and he says, "Animal, you gotta come get me." 613 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,680 I said, "What's going on?" 614 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,840 He goes, "I am not dying in this fricking country." 615 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,960 Hawk and I were brothers, when we were on the road. 616 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,920 It was a hard situation because there was such love of the guy, 617 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,440 but the hate of what was going on. 618 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,680 So, I picked Hawk up, 619 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,800 checked him out of the hospital against doctor's orders, 620 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,320 and from Sydney, flew to LA 621 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,440 and from LA, he was going to Tampa. 622 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,160 I said, "You're on your own." 623 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,640 When it seems Hawk and Animal's run 624 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,440 as wrestling's most dominant tag team is about to come to an end, 625 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,280 an unlikely event brings them back together. 626 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,480 Animal is faced with no choice but to strike out on his own 627 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,240 when Hawk's drug affliction threatens to ruin their careers. 628 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040 I had gotten home off the road. I got done working out, 629 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,880 and there's six 300-pound guys called The Christian Power Team. 630 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,440 They did this event. I was pretty impressed by it. 631 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,640 Eventually, Joe shared that with me. 632 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,800 I say, "Why don't you come to this conference in Phoenix? 633 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,000 Come out." He goes, "Could Hawk come?" 634 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,120 They came to Phoenix. I remember Mike was the first one to the altar 635 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,720 and wanted to give his life to the lord. 636 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,040 And that weekend, we actually even baptized him. 637 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,400 In the swimming pool, we did a water baptism with him. 638 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,320 And from that point on, Hawk lived in a good way. 639 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,560 I think he found religion, and then married a gal named Dale. 640 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:04,240 And he was very happy with her. He was a different person with her. 641 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,240 My motivation's different than when I first started. 642 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,240 My motivation now is my family, my fiancé. 643 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400 To make sure if something happened, she'll not be hurt. 644 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,480 He used to say, "God has nine lives, 645 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,920 but God gave me 10, so I can give my life to Jesus." 646 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,560 He was moving out of his house off the beach 647 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,360 and had just moved the last piece of heavy furniture 648 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,120 for his wife, Dale. 649 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,280 And he said, "I'm gonna go upstairs and lay down. I don't feel well." 650 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,120 And I was out in my backyard, and I get a phone call. 651 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,640 Friend of mine, Bob, he goes, "Hey, have you talked to Mike?" 652 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,800 I said, "Yeah, man, talked to him last night." 653 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,600 "Huh, have you talked to him yet today?" 654 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,800 And I said, "No." And he goes, "Joe, Mike died." 655 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,320 It was an early Sunday morning, October 19th, 656 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,240 when wrestling was saddened to hear Michael Hegstrand had passed away 657 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,760 at the young age of 46. 658 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,800 It wasn't that he OD'd or whatever. It was his heart just stopped. 659 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680 One of the hardest things I had to go through. 660 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:13,840 Well, I was just at home and Animal calls me and tells me. 661 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,600 You know, "Hawk is gone." 662 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,800 Joanie, my wife, I said, "We gotta get the..." 663 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:31,280 "We gotta get the black van and drive to the funeral." 664 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,800 The old black van I took him to the airport our first day. 665 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,280 I still had that black van. 666 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,160 Went to the K-Mart and got cans of black spray paint, 667 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,120 cover up all the rust. 668 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,000 And we got in the black van and drove all the way to Tampa. 669 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,680 Fifty miles an hour. Got passed by 10,000 cars. 670 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,840 Do you remember the things you said at the eulogy? 671 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,120 Yeah. I remember. 672 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,440 October 19th, 2003. 673 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:19,440 The dark clouds covered the bright sun. 674 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,680 Today we lost our friend. 675 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,600 Our brother of planes, trains, and automobiles. 676 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,840 Many miles. 677 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:38,560 If I could steal a line from, from  The Outlaw Josey Wales, 678 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:45,720 "Hawk, it is good that men like us met in the struggle of life." 679 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,720 Hawk's death brings to an end a partnership 680 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,560 that has not been matched in wrestling ever since. 681 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,400 He was unique both in and out of the ring. 682 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:01,560 A warrior, a partner, a friend, and a brother. 683 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,920 He, he wasn't Hawk. 684 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Yeah. I think that is a key point is, he was still Mike. 685 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,440 We never looked at him as Hawk. 686 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,920 He really gave a shit about his friends. 687 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:22,000 He just had your back and he probably knew I needed it. 688 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,240 Biggest compliment that I can make to Hawk 689 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,760 is that everybody liked to be around him. 690 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,720 So, it was a huge void. 691 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,760 And Animal would know a lot more about that than me 692 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,040 because they've been together and always thought of as a twosome. 693 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,960 A lot things in common. The gym, worked hard. 694 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,440 A great tag team. 695 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,640 Performed unbelievably in the ring. But, you know, totally different. 696 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,000 They were brothers, you know, brothers, they love each other, 697 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,280 but they'll fight once in a while. 698 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,040 There were times we were at each other's throat, 699 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,560 we were together so much. 700 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:06,480 But 99.9 percent of the time there was a common respect there. 701 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,040 It's over half my life, man, I was with Hawk. 702 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,520 From being stars in Japan, to being family members, 703 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,240 to being brothers, to everything else. 704 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,040 Now what do I do now he's gone? And that's the hardest thing. 705 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,240 We'll be remembered as the greatest tag team in wrestling 706 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,160 and I'd like to go down as a tough dude with a tough partner. 707 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,680 Hawk should be remembered as one half of the greatest tag team. 708 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,640 He had one of the best punches in wrestling, 709 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,880 one of the best interviews, for sure. 710 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,600 Well! 711 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,600 Hawk was definitely a character. 712 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,840 A part of the wrestling business died when Hawk died. 713 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Subtitles by: Chris Ransley Iyuno-SDI Group63473

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