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How many more innocent people
are gonna have to go to prison?

Every trial results in a verdict,

That cop set up my brother.
You're my last hope.

- We only have one shot.
- We're taking the case.

but not every verdict
results in the truth...

I want you to focus!

When I want to know
the meaning of injustice, I look here.

Turn it down, freak!

Die, sucker.

You're dead.

Don't bang on my walls.

Get out, you freak!
Get out of my room!

I said get out of my room!

What is wrong with you?

You're dead.

Mom! Dad!

That's it. And I went to my mom
and dad's room,

and they phoned the cops.

So tell us why you did it, Kevin.

Why did you kill her?

I don't know. I just...

We were moving to Denver,

and I didn't want to move to Denver.

"I didn't want to move to Denver."

Chilling.

Kids who kill...

Why do they do it?

Why does a 15-year-old
suddenly murder his sister

then drink a glass of milk
over her body?

Don't torture me with this,
Charlie, please.

For the last half hour,

"the prosecution files" has taken
you where few have ever been.

We have shown you internal
D.A. Memoranda,

the confidential case files
of Kevin Rounder and others.

Putz. He'd be on public access

if it weren't for his illegal source
in the D.A.'s office.

All right, David. Look,
the cop's shirt...what color is it?

- It's white. Why?
- Okay, hang on.

Charlie, the Rounder family
didn't contact us, right?

No.

And their lawyer never phoned?

All right, so I'm confused.
What are you doing?

Kevin Rounder says he confessed
after being interrogated for 16 hours,

but the cops say they only taped
the last five minutes.

We've got hundreds
of cases out there, Charlie,

and you're trying to drag in
something from late-night tv.

- What's this really about?
- What do you mean?

Come on.

It's not about Connelly.

Okay. The detective..
what color is his shirt, David?

I told you, it's...

If they only taped
the last five minutes,

then how did the cop have time
to change his clothes?

- All right, I'm paying attention.
- That cop went home,

came back the next day
and started in on him again.

And the prosecution never
turned over the tapes to the defense.

Kevin Rounder's
turning 18 next week.

They're transferring him
from Juvie to San Quentin.

Interesting.

There's D.N.A.

I know. D.N.A. could prove
it wasn't him.

Kevin? I'm Charles Conti.
I talked to your parents.

Yeah, they said.

Good. They're waiting in court.

Just so we're clear, this hearing's
about blood evidence.

They think the killer caught
his hand on the blade, so..

They said that was mine.

Right, that's because
it matched your blood type.

But they never did a D.N.A. test
because you confessed.

So that's why...

that's why we want the judge
to allow a D.N.A. test now.

So what I need to know from you, Kevin--

is there some reason
your blood might be on the knife?

I mean, is there some reason
we shouldn't do the test?

- I didn't do it.
- Right.

- I really didn't.
- Good. That's all I need to know.

I'll see you in there.

- Can I ask you something?
- Yeah.

You ever been to San Quentin?

Yes.

That's where
they're thinking of sending me.

I know.

Is it really as bad
as they say it is?

Court is in session.

The honorable judge Wilkins
presiding.

What did I do to deserve
all of this attention?

Don't adjust your jumpsuit.
I want it to look big.

I remember running
a pretty fair trial, Mr. Swain.

We're not questioning the trial,
your honor.

We're requesting D.N.A. testing
so that my client...

A request I see the district attorney
personally is opposed to.

Your honor, counsel has to show
a reasonable probability

the D.N.A. would have changed
the outcome of the case.

Yes, but as Ms. Fulbright knows,

it's exactly the D.N.A. that would
change the outcome of the case.

Not if your client confessed.

The law is full of nasty little
catch-22s, now isn't it, Mr. Swain?

Yes, sir.

But it is our belief
that the confession was coerced,

and the prosecution withheld
16 hours of interrogation tapes..

Mr. Swain's
alleging a discovery violation?

He's about three years too late.

Not if the violation is material
to guilt or innocence.

Can you prove it?

How can I?
I don't have the tapes.

Your honor, presumably trial counsel
talked with his client 3 years ago.

He could've challenged
the confession then.

How is a 15-year-old expected
to know he was coerced?

He knows how many hours
he was interrogated for.

He knows if he was given
food and water.

He would have known if he'd been
allowed to go to the bathroom.

He should've alleged the facts..
- We're alleging them now.

But counsel didn't do it then.

Instead, he chose to go
with an intoxication defense.

He waived the issue. Now Mr. Swain...

Your honor, this is absurd.

The prosecution was obligated
to turn over those tapes.

I was obligated to turn over
the statements the defendant made

that I intended to use at trial.
I did that.

That is the most strained reading of the discovery statute I have ever heard.

Okay, okay, that's enough.

I understand your frustration, Mr. Swain, but I do have to follow the law.

Defense counsel
waived that motion in 2003,

and I'm not about to do do-overs.

Therefore, no D.N.A., no tapes.
Unless you have something else..

Request you deny the motion
without prejudice.

Fair enough.
I can give you one week.

Bring me back something
more specific, and I'll reconsider.

One more thing, your honor.

My client is assigned
for transfer to San Quentin.

I ask this be delayed,
pending your decision.

Granted. Next case.

Great.

- You're gonna be fine.
- This way.

Okay. So now he's out of San Quentin.

We got a week.

Kevin Rounder.
Second degree murder.

The judge has given us a week to
convince him to order D.N.A. testing.

But without these interrogation tapes,

the original attorneys went
for an intoxication defense.

They argued that A.D.D.,
meds and heavy metal music

pushed Kevin over the edge.

They couldn't poke any holes
in the prosecution's case.

Meaning we're gonna have
to start mostly from scratch.

All right. Where do we start?

Come on.

- Oh, uh, the knife.
- Right. Good.

- The blood evidence.
- Good.

Cuts on Kevin's hands.

Good.

Right. Kevin said they were
from a skateboard fall,

so let's see if they line up
with the blade. Who's on that?

- Uh, Sonya.
- Yeah.

There is the evidence
that is was an inside job.

Right. The cops focused on Kevin
because of the locked doors.

Also there were fingerprints
on the window.

Now the police concluded

that Kevin tried to make
it look like an intruder did it.

So let's see if that theory still... um...

David?

- Just let me.
- What's wrong?

- Nothing.
- Thanks.

After the confession,

the police moved too quickly
from investigating to proving.

So let's do what they didn't...

Canvass the neighborhood,

check Megan's list
for sex offenders, okay?

And check for local break-ins.

Who wants that?

Anybody? Um... Jon.

Okay.

All right, we got a week.
Let's get to it.

Brianna,
can I talk to you for a minute?

Yeah.

So, uh, I didn't want
to talk about it over there.

- What?
- Well, Kevin's parents.

If it was an inside job, we'll have
to treat 'em as suspects, right?

Oh.

What?

Nothing. I just...
I thought you were letting me go.

With Sonya, you seem
to be giving her all...

Nothing.
I'll just, uh, shut up now.

Okay. Look, we're going out
to the crime scene,

and I want you to talk
to Mr. Rounder alone.

Keep an eye on his reaction.
I want to know exactly how he reacts.

- Okay.
- Good.

But why me?

You look a bit like Ashley,
Kevin's sister.

Brianna...

- You're doing a good job.
- Thanks.

Okay.

- What was that about, Charlie?
- Oh, nothing.

Below your pay grade.
Did you find out where he is?

Oh, yeah.

Victoria? My clubs!

Sorry.

There. It's off now.

I hope that wasn't my fault.

What do you want, Swain?

Just a friendly afternoon game.
Mind if I join you?

Aren't the municipal links
more your speed?

I thought your clients
still buried bodies over there.

Caught your show the other night...

"kids who kill."
Really grabbed me.

I had no idea heavy metal music
was so influential.

Just telling it like it is, Swain.
At least I sleep nights.

Must be easy...
with all those underage hookers.

That' ll work.

Listen, I'm gonna keep this
nice and sweet.

I know you're in possession
of illegally obtained evidence...

copies of interrogation tapes.

I don't know
what you're talking about.

Kenny,
your editorial slip is showing.

You used cuts from tapes
the defense didn't know existed.

Somebody in the D.A.'s office
leaked them to you,

and you broadcast them
on national tv.

Maybe you've heard of a little
thing called the first amendment?

Yeah, love it...

almost as much as something
called an evidentiary subpoena.

Bring it on.

I know who your D.A. source is.

All those evidentiary goodies...

I'll bet they dry up
when I expose him and he's fired.

You're fishing. It's not a he.

Yeah, it is.

Why are you so concerned
about security, Mr. Rounder?

Ash had some friends
who were killed in a car accident,

and I didn't want
to be one of those...

one of those parents
who regrets, you know?

Funny, huh?

Did anybody else
have keys to the house--

grandparents,
housekeepers, friends?

No.

I'm sorry.

We don't really come up here much.

- Is that the window?
- Yeah.

Do you mind if I...

The police said it must have
been opened from the inside

because of the lock
and it being too high to climb.

- What did you think?
- My son didn't do it.

I don't know how someone got in,
but someone got in.

Has anything changed,

like a trimmed hedge
or a trellis or something?

No.

Police went right to Kevin.

They said he wasn't reacting
the way they thought he should.

He just found his sister's body.

He just saw her blood.
How was he supposed to react?

I'm sorry.

No. I'm sorry.

Mr. Rounder, I have
to ask you, if you don't mind...

Did the police ever ask you
where you were?

- When?
- At the time of death.

Yes.

- Downstairs in the master.
- Asleep?

I didn't hear anything,
if that's what you're asking.

Yes. And you and your daughter
got along fine?

She was my daughter. I loved her.

Did the police get a blood sample
from you, Mr. Rounder,

to check against the D.N.A.?
- No.

Would you mind if we do?

No.

I wouldn't mind.

Yeah?

Conti, it's Jon.

I'm a couple blocks away
from the Rounder house.

We checked the 9-1-1 calls
made from the area,

and there was one
on the night of the murder,

a block away
from the Rounder house.

How about some kugel, Jon?

- I'm sorry. Some what?
- It's a noodle dish. Say no.

Just try a spoonful.

1185 North houseman.
She saw somebody.

Okay. I'll swing by later.

I make it with raisins.

So...

I don't usually call 9-1-1.

There was just
something about this fella.

He seemed a little... odd.

Can you, uh,
can you describe him?

Actually, there was one thing
I do remember.

He had burn scars on his arms
from here to here.

This was strange...

Aren't you going to try it?

Oh, yes.

Of course.

What was strange?

He kept asking for some woman...

Dee-Dee.

I could barely see him
through the peephole,

but he just kept ringing the bell
and saying, "is Dee-Dee there?"

It was very scary. He looked...

He looked dangerous.

So there was a crazy man

knocking on doors
in the Rounders' neighborhood.

We're looking into
homeless shelters, clinics.

Uh, good show?

Kenneth Long sent over his copies
of the interrogation tapes...

Oh, great. Along with a present.

- What?
- Look.

Ha ha! An industrial magnet.

That's more wit
than I'd expect from him.

I think he has writers.
It erased everything.

You're gonna have
to bite the bullet on this, Charlie.

Yeah, well,
not looking forward to that call.

"Hey, congratulations
on your engagement to my ex.

"How about those tapes?"

Conti, we checked
the photos of Kevin's hands.

The cuts could be
from a skateboard or a knife.

Also I was thinking

about coming out
and questioning Kevin with you.

Oh, yeah. Actually, Brianna's going.

Well, do you want me to talk
to the dad, maybe, as a possibility?

Yeah, Brianna's on that, too.

Maybe you could help Jon
on the shelter search.

Yeah. Good. I'm on it.

So he was a homeless man.

Uh, he was tall, short hair.
Burn scars on his arms.

Did Ashley ever mention
anyone like that?

No?

Okay, what about Dee-Dee?
Did anyone call her Dee-Dee,

or did she know
anybody called Dee-Dee?

No. So, um...

If we lose on friday,
they transfer me then?

Well, actually, uh...

What did your parents say?

"We're gonna win."

"Don't worry. We're gonna win."

All right, what usually happens
is transpo waits

until there are enough
transfers commissioned.

That's usually the first of the month.

So if we do lose,
you'd probably have a week or two.

I hear the best thing to do
is try to get, like,

inside work,
you know, like laundry.

Yes.

On the yard, don't
get friendly with the guards.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Okay.

Every step of the way,
we did everything they asked.

The police,
the D.A., our attorney.

Mrs. Rounder, did Ashley have
any friends on the gym team?

Yes. Dylan Avarello.
He was on the gym team with her.

He used to drive her
there and back.

Drive her?
So he was older?

Yes, 16.

Yeah, I wasn't too happy
about that..an older kid.

- Were they dating?
- No. They...we had rules.

They did homework together.

They'd get together with other kids
for pizza, things like that.

I still didn't...

The difference
between 13 and 16 is huge.

It's harder on somemore
than others. On him, it's hard.

- Well, call if there's anything.
- All right, will do.

- Thanks, Mike.
- Yeah.

You said burn marks on his arms?

Yeah, on his forearms.
Do you know him?

Well, sounds like Victor.
He's not in any trouble, is he?

No, no. No, no.

In fact, he might have
some money coming to him.

Really?
All right? What money?

Well, I'm not familiar with all the
particulars in this case. Sonya, you...

It's an estate matter,
so we really can't say.

Okay.

Do you know his last name?

Uh, Victor...Egri.

He was only here
for a couple of months,

and we're mostly
for recovering drug addicts.

But we get some mentally ill
coming through, too.

You wouldn't happen to have
a picture of him, would you?

You know what?
I might. Come on.

Let's see.
Somewhere around here.

Yeah, Victor
was a pretty sad story, really.

He burned his arms trying
to save his little girl from a fire.

She didn't make it.

Was his little girl's name Dee-Dee?

I don't know.
Sorry. Here we are.

He worked with his friends
on a community work crew

picking up trash
around the neighborhood.

Where?

Oh, just north of here, past the park.

You know what, guys? I'm really sorry,
but I gotta get this meeting going.

If you don't mind?
- Sure.

Past the park,
that's near the Rounder house.

Um, sorry, mr. Deakins,
I left my notepad back there.

Sure.

So, Dylan, Mrs. Rounder said you were Ashley's friend on the gym team.

Yeah, that's right.

But nothing more than that?

What do you mean?

You weren't boyfriend/girlfriend?

No.

You weren't having sex?

No.

Where did you get that?

Age difference was a little weird,
wasn't it, Dylan?

16-year-old hanging out
with a 13-year-old?

I thought you guys
were trying to defend Kevin.

We are.

Did you spend much time
in Ashley's room?

Sure.
Doing homework, talking...

Quite a climb, Ashley's window.

You need some gymnastic ability
to get up there.

Have a seat.

Look, I had
protective parents, too,

and I remember getting pretty good
at sneaking boys in after hours, so...

Okay.

I think you guys need
some more information here.

Ashley was on my team,
but she wasn't on my team.

I mean, I had a boyfriend.

I know her mom got the wrong idea.

I just didn't think the right idea
was gonna help matters much.

I have an alibi for that night
if you need it.

Did Ashley ever complain about
someone bothering her,

someone who, uh,
looked like that?

- No
- Sure?

Sorry.

And her relationship
with her father, how was that?

He could be pretty hard.

We were out late one night.

Mr. Rounder almost lost it
when he had to let her in.

So Ashley started
hiding this key in the yard

because she didn't want
to always have to...

She hid a key?

Yes. Why?

Okay, so the police assumed
it was an inside job

'cause there were only four keys,
and all were accounted for.

Somewhere in this yard is a fifth key,
but Dylan did not know where.

Now the last prints on any
container could be the killer's,

so don't touch it
when you bag it, all right?

Look for magnetized hideaway
key containers, hollow bricks, rocks.

Okay, let's get started.

Hey. Phone me if there's anything.

So what's up with Brianna and Conti?

Did you say Brianna and Conti?

- Yeah.
- What's up with them?

- Yeah.
- The two of them.

Forget I asked.

No, what? What?

Brianna and Conti...

Imagine my surprise
finding one of my A.D.A.s

failed to release
16 hours of interrogation.

So you're being a good guy?

I'm being
the district attorney of Oakland.

Contrary to popular opinion,

that means freeing
the wrongly convicted, too.

Charlotte didn't get you to do this?

Want to know the real reason
I'm doing this?

I watched the tapes.
There's nothing illegal.

Please, can I...can I..
have a rest for a second?

When you give me some answers.

I don't have any answers.

Yes, you do, Kevin.

No, I don't. I swear.

Please. Come on.
You have to believe me...

Hi.

I came to pick up Richard,
but he's got a jury out, so...

so I'll let you get on
with your...

Little Gino's!

Sausage and roasted garlic.

- Go ahead.
- I couldn't.

I think you could.

But I didn't!

How many times do I have to tell you?

What do you want from me?

- We want the truth.
- I'm telling you, I didn't do it!

I'm getting tired of this, Kevin.

Please, can I--can we rest
for just one minute?

When you give me some answers.

- I don't have any answers.
- Yes, you do, Kevin.

No, I don't...

Come on, they read him his rights.
He was given an option.

Yeah, but they told him it would
take longer if a lawyer got involved.

Do you consent to
a kind of lie detector test?

It's a voice stress analyzer test.
It says if you're telling the truth....

Those things aren't even accurate.

Richard said
there was nothing illegal.

You're allowed to lie to a suspect.

...And it tells us whether he's lying...

Charlotte, just look at this kid.

I'm looking, and I don't see a problem.

And you know what? There was
one time when you didn't either.

Yes.

Is George Bush
the president of the United States?

Yes.

- Did you kill Ashley?
- No.

- Are you 15 years old?
- Yes.

- Are your eyes blue?
- Yes.

Easy, right?

So what...
what do you do now?

Well, I just look at these graphs,
and then I tell you what it says.

What?

Let me show you something, Kevin.

Now you see that dip right there?

That says you're lying.

- Well, it can't.
- It does, and it's right there.

Well, I don't...I don't...
that doesn't make any sense.

I don't know why it would say that.

Kevin, look,
this computer doesn't lie.

You've seen "csi," right?

Well, then you know
that people lie. Science doesn't.

I swear to god, I am not lying!

Please!

Can I go home?

So once you get
the suspect to feel like

nothing he says will make
a difference, what next?

The final step..to convince him
his only hope is to confess.

Please continue.

If you just admit what you did...
if you just take responsibility,

the judge will take that
into consideration.

- But I...
- But if you don't...

I spoke to your parents.
You know what they said?

They said they know you did this,

and they never want to see you again.

No!

No!

Mr. Conti, do you have
a professional opinion

about the truth or falsehood
of Kevin Rounder's confession?

Yes. In my opinion,
the confession is false.

Mr. Conti, did these detectives
do anything illegal?

- No, they didn't.
- In fact, the supreme court

has said it's okay to lie to a suspect
about evidence, hasn't it?

Yes.

It's also legal to question a minor
without telling his parents.

Yes.

Mr. Conti, over the seven years
you were a homicide detective,

you got a lot of people to confess

using the very same techniques,
didn't you?

Yes.

Joseph Penfold. He confessed
to murder in the second degree.

You interrogated him
for ten hours. Was he guilty?

Yes.

Tom Ledsam.
Robbery in the first degree.

17 hours of interrogation.
Did he falsely confess?

No.

How about Brendan Rowen?
Ramon Vasquez? Bobby Weeks?

- Are we done yet?
- Let me get this straight.

When you were a detective,
these techniques were valid.

But now that you work at the
national justice project, they're not.

You've made your point,
Ms. Fulbright.

I have no further questions.

Mr. Conti...

did you ever get anyone to confess
who turned out to be innocent?

Yes.

Who?

Andrew Connolly.

You suspected him
of a rape and a murder, correct?

Yes.

How long did you interrogate him?

15 hours over 2 days.

- And you lied to him.
- Yes.

What did you tell him?

I told him three eyewitnesses
saw him at the scene.

I told him he failed
a polygraph examination.

- Which he hadn't.
- The results were inconclusive.

Anything else?

I told him we found semen
on the victim,

and the D.N.A. matched.

Also not true.

His attorney had it tested
after he was convicted.

It matched someone
who later confessed to the crime.

So did Mr. Connolly
get out of prison?

No.

Before the D.N.A. came back,
he committed suicide.

So, Mr. Conti...

I've heard enough. You can sit.

Mr. Conti, thank you. You're excused.

I presided over this trial
three years ago.

It is a difficult case,
and I am extremely moved

by what I saw
in that videotape.

That being said, I'm not convinced
this confession is involuntary.

I must consider the importance
of finality in criminal cases.

The defendant's motion
for D.N.A. testing is denied.

- You gotta be kidding me.
- Excuse me?

Are you saying that finality
is more important than the truth?

Counselor, you heard my ruling.
Now sit down.

I'm not gonna sit down.
We're talking about a boy's life here.

This is not a technicality.
- Enough!

One more word from you,
and I'll hold you in contempt.

Good. Well, then I'll choose
that word very carefully, your honor...

- "Travesty" comes to mind.
- That's it. Bailiff, arrest Mr. Swain!

You're in contempt, sir.

Fine, because I find these entire
proceedings contemptible!

You want to disrespect
this court?

You're damn right

I'm gonna disrespect this court!
- You will pay dearly.

Bail is set in the amount of $5,000.
- You are so farup the D.A.'s pocket,

you can't even see straight!

This is not over, your honor!
This is not over!

All right. Suspects.

Look, the only way we're gonna win
this thing is to go whole-hog.

Come on! The father, Larry Rounder.

Yes, right, the father.

Uh, excuse me, Billy.

Didn't mean to wake you there.

All right, good.We got the father.
Who else? Come on.

- The mother.
- The mother. Good, yeah.

There's no way the parents did it.

Well, then who?
Give me something.

- The friend Dylan.
- Yes.

- Well, I thought he was gay.
- Gay people can't kill?

He rebuffs her. She threatens
to out him. There's your motive.

Okay, he had an alibi,
but I can double-check.

You know, we still got Victor Egri,

that crazy guy that...
- Good. Let me see that.

Jimmy, you got any tape?

There you go.

Thank you, Charlie.

Okay. Victor Egri.
Where are we with him?

Excuse me. We're working here.

Anybody get..

I said, we're working here.

Would you mind
getting out of the way?

- Sorry.
- Thank you.

Come on, people,
what about Victor? Wake up!

Well, he was near the Rounder
house the night of the murder.

The home had
a community service crew

that would pick up trash in the area,

so maybe he saw Ashley
hide the key then.

Good, good, good. Now
we're talking. Let's find him.

Well, the home said he was
from Oregon or Washington,

so we're checking on...
- Wait. Wait.

What?

He's got that look.

This group with Victor...
one of them's army.

How do you know?

That patch--first cavalry.

Good, Charlie.
All right, check V.A. hospitals.

Come on, people.
We are the weather underground.

Venceremos! Venceremos, Charlie.

Right. The judge set bail,
so you don't have to stay here.

Let's go...
- No place I'd rather be.

I stay here, I get the press.

- How's my coverage?
- Kyoq is covering it.

Okay, Kyoq, that's good.
Anything national?

Not yet.

What do you mean, "not yet,"
Charlie?

This has to go national
or we don't--Sam.

Where have you been, man?

Thanks.

- We got a caramel no-foam latte.
- Oh, that's mine.

Yeah, hi, I'm calling
from Dade men's group home.

I'm looking for a Victor Egri.

Yeah, E-G-R-I.

Thing is, I used to hear
from my dad all the time,

and he hasn't called in years,
and I just thought--

I'm getting emotional.
I apologize.

No, that's okay.
All right, thanks for checking.

You sure no one
by that name?

Conti.

When?

- What happened?
- Early transfer.

Kevin!

Kevin, listen to me.

I want you to remember
exactly what I say, okay?

At San Quentin,
first time on the yard,

ask any hispanic con you see
for Damian Rojas.

Say the name.

Damian Rojas.

Don't ask any white or black cons,
just hispanic, okay?

You tell Damian my name
and say,

"if you protect me,
Conti will protect Mickey."

You understand?
Say it back to me.

"If you protect me,
Conti will protect Mickey."

Right. Right. I want you to do
one other thing for me.

You have to promise.

Don't let anybody see you cry.

Understand?

If you need to cry,
you do it in bed.

I understand.

Name?

Kevin Rounder.

Yeah.

Okay.

Early morning cloudiness,

but then sunshine
for the rest of the day.

Later in the week,
there's a 20% chance of rainfall.

Hello, Victor.

Hello.

Who's Dee-Dee?

January 18th, 2003, 10:15 P.M.

You knocked on the door of Miss
Bonnie Levin asking for Dee-Dee.

- Are you with the hospital?
- January 18th, 2003, Victor.

You were staying
at Hopkins group home,

12 blocks from Ashley Rounder.

- I think I better go
- Sit down!

I don't care how crazy you are, Victor.
I don't give a rat's ass.

All I care about right now is what you were doing on january 18th, 2003.

Ashley Rounder.

You saw her when you were
picking up trash near her house.

You saw where she kept her key.
You went back. Remember?

No. I don't remember that.
Please.

You were knocking on doors
asking for Dee-Dee.

I don't remember.

All right, look.
Hopkins group home, Victor.

Three years ago. See?

That's you.

Dee-Dee?

Dee-Dee. You were knocking
on doors looking for Dee-Dee.

- D.D.
- D.D.?

That's D.D.

Douglas...
Douglas Deakins.

Mr. Deakins. Hi.

Look, I just wanted
to apologize to you in person.

Jon made a mistake
lying to you and taking this.

Say you're sorry, Jon.

Sorry.

Oh. That's okay, guys.

You see, he actually works
for the national justice project,

and we're investigating
the murder of Ashley Rounder.

Who?

She was a 13-year-old killed
in the neighborhood 3 years ago.

We thought Victor might be
involved, but it was a mistake.

You get a lot of false
leads in this business.

Yeah, I bet.

But you know what?
Here's a funny thing.

It seems you supervised
his work crew,

which means you could have seen
Ashley at her house.

Is that when you first
became obsessed with her?

What are you talking about?

Victor said you were in the neighborhood the night Ashley was killed.

He was looking for you,
so he went wandering.

He saw your car.

Excuse me, gentlemen.
I need to lock up.

We ran your name
through Megan's list, Douglas.

But we didn't find anything.
- I said I have to lock up.

But you know what we did find?
An arrest in Denton, Texas..

Someone named Douglas Deakins

breaking into the home
of 12-year-old Trisha Harlstrom.

- That never went to trial, okay?
- I know,

and you've tried to make up
for it ever since

by helping the less fortunate.

But you left some blood on the
knife that killed Ashley Rounder,

and the judge allowed us
to do a D.N.A. test.

And guess what? It's yours.

- I don't believe you.
- That's fine with me,

'cause you left your prints
at the scene.

You saw her hide it
under her bike seat

when she came home
one night, didn't you?

You probably just wanted to hold her,

just take her away and hold her.

But Ashley was strong.
She fought back.

Shut up!

No, no. You never take
the D.A.'s first offer.

I mean, he's just trying
to clear you off the docket.

What you want to do
is hold out for the best...

So Douglas Deakins confessed.

You want to get out?

I don't know.
I'm kind of enjoying this.

Me too.

Charlie?

I'm just very glad
that my brief incarceration

has kept this issue
in the public eye.

Because without
the press coverage,

judge Wilkins might never have
reversed his ruling on the D.N.A..

You weren't there.

It wasn't my place.

Thank you.

Okay.

Congratulations.

Oh, thanks.

- You too.
- Thanks.

So there's something
I don't understand.

The police lied
to get Kevin to confess.

You lied
to get Deakins to confess.

What's the difference?

You don't have an answer.

No.

Life is complicated?

That works.

You want to go get a drink?

Uh, just to talk.

Maybe another time.

Right.

- Another time.
- Right.

Conti.

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