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I'll make this empty, Fran. Normally, I'd have my coffee ready by now, but you
missed it kind of there.
But, you know, we still have three hours until we go on the air. Make that
haphazard safety inspection.
You know, there's really no reason Miles has to know about this. You know how
that guy always panics when he thinks you waited until the last minute? Fran!
Did you get my clearance from legal? You know if I don't have my show time, I
have no story. Do you hear me? I have no story. Hey, hey, hey, I was here first.
So what, Frank? Everybody expects you to be late. I have a reputation to
protect. Oh, what's that supposed to mean? I always wait. Keep typing, Fran.
Now listen to me.
Hey, hey, hey.
What's all this about?
No? Let me guess.
You waited until the last minute again, didn't you, Frank?
Not really. I... So did Corky. She has no clearance.
Don't be upset.
I'll get it done on time. I know. I'm not worried.
You're not?
If I've learned anything from Audrey leaving me, it's that I've got to start
putting things in perspective.
Do you guys realize this is my 153rd show as executive producer of FYI?
163 times it's come down to the wire, and we've always pulled it off.
Miles, I have no commentary for tonight's show.
I was all prepared to address the issue of urban flight when I found out Koppel
covered the exact same subject Monday on Nightline, complete with my Conestoga
wagon metaphor.
Nothing.
Now, Jim, we're not going to panic. You always keep a few extra commentaries in
your drawer for just such an emergency, right? That's what I'm trying to tell
you, Miles. The drawer is empty. The well is dry.
All I found was make way for the metric system and a half -finished Gary Hart.
There's no stopping him now.
Okay. Okay, it's still okay. You thought you were dry before, but you weren't.
The rains always come.
Replenishing that well, irrigating the fertile topsoil of your brain. I want
quiet in here.
Work talk only. Go ahead, Jim. No pressure.
Hey there, everybody.
What a great day.
You ever have one of those stories where everything just falls into place? I'm
telling you, it's like this one practically wrote itself.
It's nice, right? Yep. I had the whole day free, so Avery and I went to the
Look what I got.
Everybody must have been at work or something because we practically had the
whole place to ourselves.
Health care, child care, welfare, bad air, the neighbor's damn dog.
I guess I've got nothing to do until showtime, huh? Is that great or what?
Great?
There's nothing great.
Jim's dry, Frank's late, and Corky's gonna get us soon.
So what if we pulled it off for 163 shows?
Maybe it's the 164th that's the killer. Go away. We're still working here.
Oops. And here I am bragging about having nothing to do. Guys, I am really,
really sorry. I feel awful.
Awful? Good!
The only thing better about not having to work is not having to work when
everyone else does. This day just keeps getting better.
Bobby, listen, I'm going to need you to... Just the person I was looking for.
Can I see you for a minute? Now? Murph, look, I'm really swamped here.
Ah, ah, sure. You're swamped. I understand. No problem. Even though this
just take a second, one teeny tiny moment out of your day. But if you're
swamped, you're swamped.
I understand.
You don't have time for me.
Sorry to have bothered you.
Okay, okay, I'm coming.
Boy, you are really getting this mother thing down.
John, what's up?
I just have one quick question, Frank, and then you can go. Shoot.
What do you think happens when we die?
Excuse me?
You know, when we pass on by the farm, take the big dirt nap. What do you think
happens?
Do you think this is it, or do you think there's something more? And if so,
what's it like?
Okay, that's three questions, so I lied. Well... This is what you come up with
when you have a half hour of free time? No wonder you don't like to go on
vacation.
Childhood, the early years, yeah?
So I had a little free time. I started catching up on my reading, and I started
skimming ahead. There's only so much you can read about potty training. And I
came to this chapter here.
When your child asks about death.
Death, Frank. I haven't even figured out how I'm going to explain the Reagan
years.
Aren't you rushing this a little? I mean, Avery's barely talking.
Frank, he is very advanced. He's already learned how to climb out of his crib.
How long before he walks into my room, pulls the pacifier out of his mouth, and
says, Mom, I'm having an existential crisis?
You're serious about this, aren't you? You really want to talk about this? Yes,
I do, Frank. It's the one thing we all have to face, and nobody wants to talk
about it. You are my best friend. I know so many intimate things about you, but
I don't know how you feel about death.
Personally, I'm against it.
Frank, you're not comfortable talking about it. No, no, no. Look, you just
caught me by surprise. I am not uncomfortable with this. In therapy,
up all the time.
Almost as much as sex.
The only difference is I don't cry as much when we talk about death.
Remind me not to come to you when Avery hits puberty. Okay.
I'm sorry. I am going to help you with it. So, one of these days, you're going
to have to talk to your kid about death.
Well, why don't you just start by telling him what you believe?
That's just it, Frank. I don't know what I believe. I always avoided thinking
about it. I guess I figured that if you didn't think you were going to die, you
wouldn't.
Hey, it's worked so far.
What about your parents? They must have told you something.
Yeah. When I asked my mother, she said, you have too much free time on your
hands, and she signed me up for tennis lessons. My father's answer was, if you
pull the plug on a refrigerator, does it keep running?
From age five to seven, I thought goodwill came to take us away.
You're lucky. My parents sent me to Catholic school. Death was practically a
required course.
Heaven, hell, purgatory, limbo.
I'll tell you something. When you've got Sister Mary Catherine standing over you
saying that one... One peep into the girl's locker room could condemn you for
all eternity. You believed her. That woman had a muscle in her right arm the
size of my head.
I don't know. It's just too much pressure. I should have been a parent 40
ago when parents were expected to screw up their kids.
Man, that Catholic school stuff stayed with me for years.
And then I started seeing stuff that sort of shook my faith.
After reporting from Beirut, Belfast, Cambodia...
Going to hell for seeing Patty Hagen change into her field hockey uniform
make that much sense anyway.
Yeah, I know. I always thought if there was a benevolent being, then how do you
explain all of the injustice and the suffering and the Chicago Cubs?
Something we just can't explain.
So after a while, what I started doing was looking for answers someplace else.
met this woman named Andrea.
She got me into Eastern religion and Swami Sukhananda.
He taught that death was a return to the universal soul.
But then the Swami got caught skimming donations to buy a Gap franchise.
Then there was Robin.
She got me into Buddhism.
Then it was Celia and the Christian scientists. Or was that Judy and the
Rastafarians? What's the matter, Frank? Couldn't you find an Amish chick?
This is death and the meaning of life we're talking about here. I guess I was
just looking for a comforting answer.
Okay, so what about now?
Well... I don't know. I'm not really seeing anyone right now.
I've got to get back to work. Otherwise, I'm never going to be ready for the
show. Okay, just one more thing, Frank.
With all of your doubts and searching and exploring alternative religions, how
come you still go to confession?
Oh, if Sister Mary Catherine was right, I'm going to need all the help I can
get. So, what are you reading there, kid?
Death and dying?
Life after death?
Tibetan book of the dead.
Murphy, honey, reading all this and eating my meatloaf, how's it gonna look?
I'm just doing some research, Phil. You know, in case the subject ever comes up
with Avery.
Phil, you've got kids. Any chance they never ask?
And not when you got eight kids and the easiest thing to win at the school
carnival is a baggie full of goldfish.
On really hot days, the grieving started even before we left the party.
So what did you tell them? Oh, that death isn't the end.
Everything goes on in one form or another.
You know, it's been almost four years since my dad died and I still talk to
about once a week.
You talk to him? Sure.
I like to tell him how the family's doing, ask his opinion about the
Oh, I don't know if he hears me, but nobody's ever going to convince me that
wasn't Dad that guided me into buying that cappuccino machine.
$3 .50 for a thimble full of coffee and some steamed milk?
Dad would have loved the 90s.
Let me get this straight, Phil. You think you have a direct line to the
hereafter and you're talking about appliances?
If it were me, I'd be looking to nail him on the bigger questions. Where are
you? What's it like there? Is it tough to get in?
Oh, hey, I can find out all those things when I get there.
Right now, we've got a business to run.
Murphy, I'm glad I found you.
I'm shifting the order for the show. You're no longer up first. Now, I know
you're not happy about this, but we go on the air in a little over an hour and
don't have time to debate it.
Miles. Did you know that story about your hair and fingernails continuing to
grow after you die is just an old wives' tale?
Apparently, it just seems that way because your skin actually shrinks when
you're dead.
Okay, you're up first.
But this is the last time I'm getting into one of your threats.
Wait a minute.
I'm dealing with something kind of difficult here. I thought I could handle
myself, but... What do you think happens when we die?
What do I think happens when... Why are you talking about this?
People don't talk about this unless... Oh, my God.
Murphy. What?
I knew this day would come sooner or later.
It doesn't take a genius to see it. It's your diet, your stress, the way you
keep your anger all bottled up inside.
Wait. You don't do that. I do that.
Miles, I'm not dying.
Oh, thank God.
For a minute there, an image flashed through my head of this guy in overalls
stenciling the name Jane Polly under your dressing room door.
After a suitable grieving period, of course. Well, back to work.
Five more minutes.
I'm trying to figure out what to tell Avery about death, and since he's half
Jewish, well, what do you believe happens when we die?
Oh, sure.
Can't start with the easy stuff, like why we play hide the matzah on Passover.
Five minutes and I'm out the door.
Jews.
We don't really talk about heaven and hell and all that stuff.
We're supposed to focus on the here and now.
We're sort of like the Unitarians that way, only they don't have to eat gefilte
fish.
So let me understand this. You've got one of the world's major religions.
been around for over 5 ,000 years, but the subject of the hereafter never came
up? I'm not saying we don't think about it. You should have seen me as a kid. I
was obsessed with it.
Some kids would play doctor. I would play funeral.
I used to put my arms over my chest like this, lie there, and pretend I was
dead. Then all the kids in the neighborhood would bring sponge cake. It
really quite lovely.
Miles, I need answers.
You're dead, you get sponge cake, and then what happens? You have to wonder
comes next.
Not really, because... Well, uh, I never really talk about this, but I had a
near -death experience once. This isn't that time you thought you had Lyme
disease, is it? No, I... Chronic fatigue syndrome? No. Swine flu? You wouldn't
hear this. Yes.
I was nine years old. We were on a family vacation.
I was eating Cracker Jacks in the backseat when we hit this bump in the
one of those little candy -coated peanuts got lodged in my throat.
My mother always used to tell me, don't eat in the car, but did I listen?
Yeah, yeah, you're bad to the bone, so what happened?
I remember choking, and then I passed out, and then it was like all those
stories you hear. The tunnel, the bright light, my Aunt Shirley standing there,
reaching out to welcome me, which was pretty weird because she was living in
Jersey with my Uncle Sid at the time.
Then, just as I was about to enter the light, I heard this voice telling me it
wasn't my time yet. And suddenly, I was back in the car spitting out that
peanut.
I like to think that that voice, Murphy, was the voice of God.
Of course, it also said I told you not to eat in the car, so it can't be 100 %
true.
But ever since then, I thought, maybe this life is just a prelude.
Maybe there's a whole beautiful world waiting for us after this.
So, let me understand this. You're basing your whole faith on an afterlife
pothole and a peanut?
Well, okay, it's not a burning bush, but what's the alternative?
That we die and then that's it?
Don't get me wrong, Miles. I'd like to believe there's something more. It's
that I'm having a very hard time picturing it.
So what are you picturing? That we wind up lying under six feet of topsoil? Our
eyelids glued shut?
Turning into little piles of mulch?
That we have no soul?
Or if we do, we just drift for all eternity in the cold black emptiness of
void? Are minds still working?
Trapped in an endless nothingness stretching on forever and ever and ever
ever.
Oh, God.
We were talking about death and you didn't even blink. Last week when the
curling iron was missing, we practically had to sedate you.
I'm sorry, but death just doesn't bother me that much.
Now, I'm not saying that it isn't sad.
In fact, that's why I never can stay mad at people.
I just picture how I'll feel when they die, and I end up forgiving them.
How do you think I've been able to get along with you so well, silly?
I'm talking about other people's death. I'm talking about when you die.
Doesn't that fill you with some anxiety?
Not really.
When my time comes.
I'm going to heaven.
You sound like one of those Disneyland commercials.
Margie Sherwood, you've just been run over by a speeding bus. What are you
to do now? I'm going to heaven.
It's right there in the Bible.
Rejoice and be exceeding glad, for great is your reward in heaven.
Matthew chapter 5, verse 12.
Or is that the part where Jesus is washing lepers' feet? I always get those
confused.
Okay.
So, you're going to heaven.
What's it like there?
Well, the streets are all paved with gold.
There are lots of famous people.
And the buildings shine with the brilliance of a thousand lights.
So you're saying heaven is like spending eternity in Las Vegas?
You can't really believe that. Why not?
Because it doesn't make any sense. It's like saying heaven's up in the clouds
somewhere. I mean, all you have to do is take a plane trip and you can kiss that
theory goodbye.
Murphy, what do you think? God would just plop heaven down right there in the
sky where any old 747 wandering by could just plow right into it?
Really? Give the Lord a little credit.
All right.
For the sake of argument, you're in heaven, dead.
There's Gold Street, Sprite Life, lots of famous people. You can hear Mozart
play. You can watch Nijinsky dance. It's paradise for the first millennium or
two. But then, after the next 3 ,000 years, even Einstein's stories are
to get a little stale, and you're checking your watch, looking for the
out of there. But there is no bus, only a weekend shuttle to hell where you can
watch the 25th billionth performance of Cats.
Don't you understand, Murphy?
There aren't going to be any problems.
If there were, it wouldn't be heaven.
I'm beginning to think you're not even trying.
Corky, I am trying. A part of me would like to believe the way you do. You have
no doubts. You're perfectly happy and content.
Well, it's not that hard. You just have to have a little faith.
You know, Murphy, if you ever wanted to, you could always join me at my church
sometime. This Sunday after services, we're having a potluck lunch for
Oh, thanks, but no thanks.
They're raffling off a car.
Wow, what a deal. I could find the Lord, meet Mr. Wright, and drive away in a
brand -new Buick.
Oh, hi, Jim.
Oh, I see you came up with a commentary for tonight. Yes, I'm proving it now.
What's it about?
Stress and overcrowding in contemporary society, with particular attention paid
to my neighbor's damn dog.
Oh. Stop toying with me.
I know what's coming.
Murphy's little death talk.
This is no escaping, is it?
Don't worry. I'm through talking about it. No one's given me anything useful
day. I can't understand it. How many people fall back on faith to cope with
deeper mysteries of life?
I make the waiter show me the pot before I believe it's decaf.
All right.
Five minutes, people.
I'm sorry, Murphy. I can't talk about death. Union rules.
Okay, you're right. There is no escaping me.
Jim, you go to church, you seem at peace with yourself.
I envy that. I want to understand it.
Yes, well, there's not much to understand.
It's just something Doris and I do.
Yeah, but you do it Sunday after Sunday. You must be getting something from it.
What?
Oh, so many things.
The music is inspiring.
There's a look of joy and good fellowship on the faces of those around
No offense, Jim, but throw in a plastic slide and some bouncy balls and you
could be at Avery's Gymboree class. There's got to be something more.
Well, yeah, certainly.
There's more.
But it's not something that can be easily articulated.
Oh, come on, Jim, give it a shot.
What are you hearing that helps you cope with life and death?
I don't understand.
I go to church because I see a world filled with cruelty and chaos.
I need to believe that there's some order, some purpose to all this.
So I surround myself with the trappings of belief, hoping that someday that
belief will be mine.
What if there is no order or purpose?
I'm praying that there is.
Jim, I don't know. I guess there's just too much of the reporter in me. I have
to have facts.
And when it comes to death, the only facts you have are that you live and
you die.
Oh, man, the angel of death has struck again.
Don't stop on our account, Murphy. I'm sure there are still a few people left
the studio who haven't been sucked into your vortex of doom.
In case anyone's interested, there's a potluck this Sunday at my church.
Could win a car.
All right, if the loved ones will line up behind the hearse, the procession is
about to depart.
talking about it would help.
Because whether we want to face it or not, death is the elephant in the room
that no one ever mentioned.
And it's coming closer with every tick of the clock.
In five, four, three, two...
Hi,
Eldon. How's he doing?
Got a dozen times through the three little pigs to finally get him to sleep.
If I have to go through all that huffing and puffing one more time, I'm going to
need a respirator.
Oh, Eldon.
Look at him.
He's so innocent.
Wouldn't it be great if he could stay like that?
Never have to face the big questions about life.
And death.
You read ahead in that baby book, didn't you?
I don't know what to tell him, Eldon.
Think he's too young for tennis lessons?
You know, I always thought that death has gotten a bum rap.
I mean, without that big deadline hanging over our heads, there would be
push to get anything done.
And what's more, if we were never going to die, you'd have to buy a whole lot of
pants.
I can see you've given this a lot of thought.
Actually, no.
But I tell you this. I do believe in life after death.
You're just turning.
He's just turning.
You believe in life after death? Oh, absolutely.
Oh, but not in the way that you probably think. I mean, I believe that you live
on in the things that you create.
Like, for me, it's my art.
I mean, that's my immortality.
Maybe you got something like that, too.
Remind me to give him a raise.
I heard that.
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