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REPORTER:
Out here along Ocean Parkway,
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where the body count
just keeps on rising.
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The so-called "Gilgo Four"
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were all petite women,
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all under five foot five,
and they were all sex workers.
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We have a serial killer
on our hands.
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The only word that really
came to mind was monstrous.
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It's the perfect tabloid story.
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But it turns
into something much bigger
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than a simple,
like, serial killer case.
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REPORTER:
After years of controversy
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surrounding guns
and a sex worker,
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the Suffolk County Police Chief
resigned today.
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This whole part of the story
is so extraordinary.
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ALGAR:
The investigation
pretty much slows to a crawl
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for almost a decade,
shockingly.
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Find this killer
before he strikes and murders
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someone that you love.
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McGARVEY:
And then, after 13 years,
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this bombshell
drops out of seemingly nowhere.
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REPORTER:
A suspect now under arrest
in connection
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to the unsolved
Gilgo Beach murders.
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SHEEHAN:
I remember thinking, "Oh, shit.
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Who would have suspected that
that guy was the killer?"
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He basically was the person
that lived next door.
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But the most mysterious figure
in this whole thing is the wife.
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SHEEHAN:
The idea that the wife
didn't know anything
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about what he was doing
is hard to believe.
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She has not talked to any of us.
We can only speculate.
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Does everybody really believe
everything they hear?
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[PHONE DIALING]
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RYDER:
So, the early Gilgo case
starts with Shannan Gilbert.
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Shannan showed up as a sex
worker to a house on Oak Beach.
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She ran from that residence
and then called 911.
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And when she fled,
she knocked on two other doors.
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She ran into that
mucky bramble area
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on the swampy side
of the street
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where she disappeared.
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My name is Patrick Ryder.
I am the Police Commissioner
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for the Nassau County
Police Department.
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Which is right next
to Suffolk County,
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where Gilgo Beach is
here on Long Island.
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Ocean Parkway
runs west to east.
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It'll take you
from Jones Beach,
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which is about 40 miles
from Manhattan,
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all the way east to Oak Beach,
where Shannan was last seen.
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Along that roadway
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on the right and left side,
it's all bramble.
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You can't see the beach.
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There's high dunes
to protect it
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from, obviously, the tides.
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And right in the middle
is Gilgo Beach.
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Gilgo, in the summer
during the day, very busy area.
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But at night time,
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you could pull over
on the side of the road,
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shut your lights off,
and nobody'll see you.
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If you're in tight
to the bramble area,
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nobody will see your car.
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It's that dark
in some areas at nighttime.
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As detectives, nothing is harder
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than when someone comes in
to report a missing person.
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I'm a cop,
but also I'm a parent.
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Parents are parents.
You know, you want results
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knowing that, "Listen,
that's my child out there."
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My name is Rick Tirelli.
I grew up on Long Island,
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and I'm a former New York City
Homicide Detective.
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Shannan was a sex worker
who disappeared in Oak Beach,
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just seven miles east
of Gilgo Beach.
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REPORTER:
Shannan Gilbert went missing
on May 1st of last year
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after she ran screaming
from a client's home at 5 a.m.
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It's the last
she was seen alive.
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TIRELLI:
John Mallia,
who was a K-9 police officer,
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was looking for Shannan's body.
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He's out there in the bramble
in the cold December weather.
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And he ends up
finding something.
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But it's not Shannan.
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REPORTER 1:
We're live on Gilgo Beach.
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An extensive search that goes on
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for a good mile
along the bay here.
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You can see crime scene
investigators behind me.
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REPORTER 2:
A K-9 unit
on a training exercise here
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uncovered the first body.
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MALLIA:
The dog gave me an indication.
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At that point, I saw
the skeletal remains of a body.
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REPORTER 2:
When search teams returned
to the same location today
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to look for more evidence,
they found instead
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three more bodies
stuffed in these brushes.
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The thing with Gilgo is
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everyone on Long Island
and friends of mine
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who worked on other serial
killer cases knew it was big.
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You start to wonder like, like,
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"Where's this guy going?
What's going on?"
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RYDER:
So once we start
uncovering bodies,
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you start getting the concern,
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"How did these happen?
Who are our victims?
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What is the commonality?
What can we do to solve this?"
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REPORTER 3:
Out here along Ocean Parkway,
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where the body count
just keeps on rising
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and the grisly mystery
just deepens as police excavate
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an apparent serial killer's
dumping ground.
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TOULON:
The commonality
amongst the four women
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that were originally found
was they were all bound.
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They were all Caucasian.
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They were relatively, uh, small
in height and small in frame.
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And I thought I've seen it all,
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have dealt with
all types of crimes.
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But when it came to
Gilgo Beach,
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to have a serial killer
of this magnitude.
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You know, I've been a resident
of Suffolk County for 33 years,
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and I wanted to make sure
we had a hand in solving this.
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RYDER:
We look at it
from a personal standpoint.
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There's a weight
on everybody's shoulders
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of an unsolved homicide,
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but none more
than a serial killer.
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Find this killer
before he strikes, and hurts,
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and murders
someone that you love.
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ALGAR:
Once the word came down that
there were four bodies there,
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I drove from New York City
as fast as I could
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all the way out to Gilgo Beach.
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It was December.
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It was absolutely
bone-chilling that day.
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I've been a reporter
for 20 years.
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So when a story
on a case like that,
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your question is, "Are they
related or are they not?"
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If they are related,
you drop everything else,
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and you devote yourself to
finding out how they're related.
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Four bodies in one place.
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The assumption
is serial killer.
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And once that phrase comes out,
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there are no other stories
at that point.
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And the peace and beauty
of Fire Island was shattered.
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A very different papacy.
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MURPHY:
I grew up on Long Island,
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and I've been a reporter
for more than four decades.
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From Gotti to Gilgo,
I've covered it all.
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I will be the first to tell you
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that I am a wannabe
police detective.
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And when a case is unsolved,
I wanna know why.
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The Gilgo Four were found in
very thick bramble, thick brush,
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just in about 30 feet
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on the westbound lane
of Ocean Parkway.
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They were all naked,
and they were all bound.
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Three of them with tape,
and one was bound with belts,
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and three of them
were wrapped in burlap.
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We're asking ourselves
all these questions:
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"How did they die?
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Where were they killed?"
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It could take weeks or months
to identify the four bodies
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found over
the past couple of days.
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I'm Shannon McGarvey.
I'm an investigative writer.
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I've been working
on the Gilgo case
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for the better part
of a decade.
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The so-called "Gilgo Four"
were all petite women,
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all under five foot five,
and that was chilling.
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Within a week,
there was no indication
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that there was
a person of interest,
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never mind a suspect
in this case.
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How long
has this been going on?
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Who are the victims?
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Were they dumped all at once?
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Anything is possible
at this point
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because there's so many
unanswered questions.
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These questions started
coming out in the beginning
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and just really fueling the
media frenzy around the case.
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SHEEHAN:
I've been a field reporter
for theNew York Post,
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going on 14 years, and I've seen
some of the most horrific shit
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that anybody has ever seen
that people shouldn't see.
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FITZGIBBON:
I've covered crime.
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I've covered courts, police
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for almost four decades.
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We are the blue collar paper
on Long Island.
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The everyday New Yorker
reads the New York Post.
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What sells is this hunger
for the sensational.
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You don't get more sensational
than a serial killer.
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A lot of it is
the monster among us.
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The fact that my neighbor
could be this horrific killer.
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It just captures
the imagination. Always has.
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You know,
from Jack the Ripper on down.
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I don't think it's a coincidence
that four bodies
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ended up in this area.
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We're looking at that, that
we could have a serial killer.
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So it becomes very obvious
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to the police commissioner
at the time.
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We have a serial killer
on our hands.
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And then fast forward
about a month later...
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REPORTER:
We are following
some breaking news
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out of Long Island, New York.
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The medical examiner in Suffolk
County identified the remains
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of all four bodies
found last month.
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The Gilgo four are identified
and we learn that
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they're Maureen
Brainard-Barnes,
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Melissa Barthelemy,
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Megan Waterman,
and Amber Costello.
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REPORTER 1:
Maureen Brainard-Barnes,
a mother of two,
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was working as a Craigslist
escort in Manhattan,
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and disappeared in July 2007.
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REPORTER 2:
After placing an ad
on Craigslist,
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Melissa vanished in July 2009.
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REPORTER 3:
Megan Waterman
went missing in June
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after agreeing to see a client
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on Long Island
through Craigslist.
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REPORTER 4:
Amber, a sex worker,
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was murdered
around September 2nd, 2010.
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It really made me sick.
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If there were many more bodies
out there, we want to find them.
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It's one of the most intense
cases I've ever covered.
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People should be on very,
very high alert.
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How sadistic is this person?
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DORMER:
These young women were abused
and raped and killed.
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What is he capable of?
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...how another body found
in the same area.
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He's a monster.
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REPORTER 1:
It started
as an effort to find clues
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in the case of a missing woman,
Shannan Gilbert.
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I'd like to report that
we found human remains.
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REPORTER 2:
Four bodies wrapped in burlap,
dumped alongside Ocean Parkway.
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REPORTER 1:
That search has turned
into a gruesome murder mystery,
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with evidence that suggests a
serial killer is on the loose.
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We're looking at that, that
we could have a serial killer.
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REPORTER 2:
These grim discoveries mark
the third serial killer murders
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involving prostitutes
here on Long Island
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in more than two decades.
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Long Island
has a notorious history
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for really disturbing
murder cases.
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REPORTER 2:
An unknown woman was found
murdered in a pickup truck.
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And serial killers.
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We had the Amityville Horror,
Ronald DeFeo Jr.
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REPORTER 1:
It remains one of Long Island's
most disturbing crimes.
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Six members of the DeFeo family
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were gunned down
in their Amityville home.
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MURPHY:
Back in the early '90s,
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Joel Rifkin had graveyards
all over the place
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where he would dump
parts of bodies.
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REPORTER 2:
The landscaper is suspected
of being involved
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in the deaths of 18 women,
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several of whom
were sex workers.
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MURPHY:
We had Robert Schulman.
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REPORTER 2:
After he fatally
assaulted them,
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he took a knife and a saw
and cut off their limbs.
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Have anything to say at all?
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Then there was John Bittrolff.
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REPORTER 1:
Bittrolff is facing charges
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for two murders
and is a suspect for a third.
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Three women were beaten,
suffocated,
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and found undressed
in distinct poses.
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So there's a rich history
of serial killer activity
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and gruesome murder on this
relatively isolated island
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in New York City's backyard.
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I've covered it all,
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and I've never seen
a serial killer case
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like the Long Island
serial killer.
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It's sort of on another level.
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This guy, whoever it was,
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was eluding the authorities,
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and really confounding
not only the reporters,
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but the community.
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CANN:
Why did you pick her?
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How did you pick her?
How did you get her?
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You know, did my sister cry?
Did she beg? You know?
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Did she say, "Please, please?"
Like, "I have kids." Like...
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I'm afraid that
they'll never find this person
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and he'll continue
to keep on killing girls.
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And it's a horrible feeling.
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It is true. As the case
progresses, as time passes on,
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he may get sloppy.
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He may make mistakes.
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But he hasn't done that
up until now.
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RYDER:
So...
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when you're an investigator,
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your job
is to give that family relief.
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Your job is to speak
for the victims.
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Your job is to comfort
the families of those victims.
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You also have a job to solve it.
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Let me first thank everybody
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for coming on such short notice.
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What is now very clear
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is that the area
in and around Gilgo Beach
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has been used to discard human
remains for some period of time.
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TIRELLI:
In the beginning, I think
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that the Suffolk
County Police Department,
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and the agencies
that were working with them
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took a lot of good investigative
steps to try to find this guy.
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MURPHY:
The first year of the case,
the FBI was involved.
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Chief Dominick Varrone
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was the head of the detective
bureau in Suffolk County.
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He said he had meetings
with Geraldine Hart,
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an FBI agent
here on Long Island.
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They were actually starting
to work with the cell phone data
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that they were able to get
from the victims' phones.
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Maureen Brainard-Barnes
was last seen alive
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on July 9th, 2007.
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But three days before,
she started getting
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a series of phone calls
from a burner phone.
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Then, three days after Maureen
Brainard-Barnes disappears,
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there are two outbound calls
made from her cell phone
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near the Long Island Expressway
in Suffolk County.
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Melissa Barthelemy disappeared
on July 10th 2009.
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About a week
before she vanished,
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her cell phone was contacted
by a burner phone.
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And then on July 10th,
the day she went missing,
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that burner phone traveled
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from Massapequa Park on Long
Island to Midtown Manhattan.
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And then later that evening...
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Melissa Barthelemy's
cell phone traveled
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from Midtown Manhattan
out to Massapequa Park.
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The next day, Melissa's phone
pings at a cell site
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in Massapequa at 1:43 a.m.
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So there are important clues
here that detectives
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are picking up on
at this early stage.
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First, the killer
is using burner phones
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as part of his MO.
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Secondly, investigators now know
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that there's three general areas
where the story is unfolding.
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Nassau County,
where Massapequa is.
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Suffolk County,
where Gilgo Beach is.
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And Midtown Manhattan.
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Now, Gilgo Four investigators
dig deeper and reexamine a clue
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from the original investigation
into Melissa's disappearance
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almost two years earlier,
in April 2009.
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Within a week of Melissa
Barthelemy's disappearance,
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her teenage sister
starts to receive
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a series of very sick
and twisted calls
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from a man that's using
Melissa's cell phone.
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She was just 15 years old
when she received a phone call
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she says, "was straight
out of a horror movie."
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There are some diary entries
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that Melissa Barthelemy's
teenage sister Amanda made.
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Have you figured out
who this is?
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No. Where's my sister?
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Are you gonna be a whore
like your sister now?
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No. Where is my sister?
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She's dead. I killed her.
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They're very taunting and angry
words. He obviously enjoys it.
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And he's sick in the head.
I'm scared of my own protection.
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ALGAR:
Now, in 2011,
during the Gilgo investigation,
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an FBI team
that was working on the case,
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they were able to track
these calls to a degree.
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Investigators
were able to triangulate
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the phone calls
made from Melissa's phone
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to her sister, Amanda.
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The caller kept them brief,
and there was an early theory
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that he knew
that if you stayed on the line
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for a certain amount of time,
you could get a precise trace.
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He seemed cognizant of that
and ended the calls early.
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And we're wondering
what's going on here.
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How sophisticated is this guy?
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Does he have
a law enforcement background?
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Does he know
how to cover his tracks?
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We're asking ourselves
all these questions
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because they're not
finding the guy.
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ALGAR:
Still, they were able to track
the phone calls.
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To Times Square,
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Madison Square Garden
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and Massapequa Park.
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So, there was finally
some solidity
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to the origins of this person.
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Once this information
was released,
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and you had
two zones of interest.
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Massapequa and Manhattan.
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We were asking ourselves,
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did this person
live in Massapequa
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and live some
quiet suburban life there?
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And did he commute
into Manhattan every day?
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FITZGIBBON:
We reported this
April 10th, 2011
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and asked the question,
"Did her murderer
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work in Midtown
and commute from Long Island?"
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00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:07,830
MURPHY:
So, detectives now have
a general idea
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00:21:07,930 --> 00:21:11,270
of where the killer
traveled to and from,
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and then they learn more.
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Shortly after the bodies were
identified in January of 2011,
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00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:21,140
police went to the home
of Amber Costello.
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One of the Gilgo Four.
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And they interviewed
her roommate, Dave Schaller.
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McGARVEY:
In the days leading up
to Amber's disappearance,
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Amber and Dave had been running
a ruse in the house
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where Amber
would invite a John over
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and Dave would bust out
in the middle of the meeting
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00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:46,600
and pretend to be
an outraged boyfriend.
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00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:49,400
Thus scaring the John away.
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00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:51,970
And then Amber
pockets the money.
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00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:56,080
That's the ruse that they run
on a very particular client.
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The day before Amber disappears.
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MURPHY:
On September 1st, 2010,
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this client
accesses her Backpage ad.
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00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:07,120
The investigators check
Amber's cell phone records
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00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:08,520
and see that a burner phone
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00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:10,460
between Massapequa
and Amityville
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00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,330
contacts Amber Costello.
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00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:14,830
Not long after that,
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00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:18,100
the burner phone
travels toward West Babylon,
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00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,870
where Amber Costello lives.
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00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:23,710
[***]
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00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:26,740
This client...
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00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,740
shows up.
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00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:32,910
He's in the house.
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00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:37,490
And apparently pays his money.
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00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:39,990
McGARVEY:
Dave busts out.
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00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,960
Runs the client off.
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00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:50,330
And Amber pockets the money.
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00:22:50,430 --> 00:22:51,870
But this time...
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00:22:53,470 --> 00:22:55,540
...the client continues
to contact her.
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He sends a text message.
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00:22:57,470 --> 00:22:59,040
[PHONE CHIMES]
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00:22:59,140 --> 00:23:00,410
"That was not so nice.
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Do I get credit for next time?"
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00:23:03,650 --> 00:23:06,310
Within two minutes
of that text being sent,
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00:23:06,410 --> 00:23:07,650
the cell site indicates that
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00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:09,880
the burner phone
is in Massapequa Park.
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00:23:09,980 --> 00:23:13,220
So the next night,
this same burner phone
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pings in Midtown Manhattan.
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Then it pings in Massapequa.
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00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:21,700
And then it ends up pinging
where Amber Costello lives.
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The next night, Amber Costello
tells her roommate,
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Dave Schaller, that she's going
to see this same client.
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And of course,
she never came back.
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00:23:41,650 --> 00:23:46,390
ALGAR:
Schaller told police that
this client resembled an ogre,
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and he was around
6'4" inches tall.
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00:23:49,290 --> 00:23:54,530
This guy was so relentless,
he called several times.
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00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,030
This is somebody
that I've seen.
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00:23:57,130 --> 00:24:00,670
I might be the one of the only
people who knows who he is.
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00:24:00,770 --> 00:24:03,440
MURPHY:
He was described
as this hulking man
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who looked like an ogre.
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00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:10,550
He wore these sort of large
glasses. He had bushy hair.
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Equally significant,
Schaller says
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00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,820
that he was driving
a unique vehicle.
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00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,760
A dark green, first-generation
Chevrolet Avalanche.
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00:24:25,490 --> 00:24:27,630
MURPHY:
By the end of 2011...
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All within
the first year of the case.
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00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,740
[PHONES RINGING]
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00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,110
Just think about what
the investigators already have.
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00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:41,580
A description of the killer.
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00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:46,010
The make and model of his car.
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00:24:46,110 --> 00:24:49,050
And a pretty good idea
of the area where he travels...
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00:24:50,420 --> 00:24:52,750
Between Long Island
and Manhattan.
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00:24:52,850 --> 00:24:54,390
ANNOUNCER [OVER PA]:
Penn Station.
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00:24:54,490 --> 00:24:56,520
Clearly,
he is very knowledgeable
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00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:59,130
about the Gilgo Beach area.
448
00:25:01,060 --> 00:25:03,200
It's very deserted.
It's very desolate.
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00:25:03,300 --> 00:25:06,800
Which implies that
he either works in that area
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00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:10,040
or he lives in that area.
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00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:14,440
Investigators were actually
closer to targeting a suspect
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than they ever had been.
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00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:19,750
ALGAR:
So the obvious question is
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why didn't investigators
take the next step?
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00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:25,920
Why does this case continue
to drag on for another decade?
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00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:28,820
And in that time, does the
killer become more emboldened?
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00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:33,960
Hunting and killing and stalking
without any fear of reprisal?
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00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:37,130
How many more women have to die
before he's caught?
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00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:45,840
[***]
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00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:47,980
REPORTER:
These mothers, stepdads,
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aunts and other relatives
gathered for a vigil
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00:25:51,010 --> 00:25:53,080
in remembrance
of three young women
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00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:56,750
whose remains were discovered
and identified in this area.
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00:26:00,590 --> 00:26:05,290
ELA:
We have a lot of questions
that we want answers to.
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You know who you are.
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00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,860
You know what you did
to these women.
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00:26:10,130 --> 00:26:11,730
Somebody out there
knows something.
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00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:14,070
Somebody had seen something.
469
00:26:14,170 --> 00:26:15,740
Don't be afraid.
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00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,970
You turn this person in,
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00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:21,280
you're gonna save
another human's life.
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00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:24,910
BARTHELEMY:
You're a very weak man.
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00:26:25,010 --> 00:26:28,620
You prey on small,
innocent girls,
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00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,750
and we're gonna get you.
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00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:35,790
McGARVEY:
As the families
of the Gilgo Four
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00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:37,990
are gathering
for their daughters,
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00:26:38,090 --> 00:26:42,600
something honestly
unbelievable happens.
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00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:45,070
Shannan's body's discovered.
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00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:48,670
REPORTER:
The woman they've been looking
for, Shannan Gilbert.
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00:26:48,770 --> 00:26:52,870
Police believe they have
finally found her remains.
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DORMER:
We believe that Shannan Gilbert
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ran into that area
the night that she disappeared.
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00:26:58,610 --> 00:27:00,550
And looking at the terrain,
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00:27:00,650 --> 00:27:03,990
it's very easy
to get engulfed with water
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00:27:04,090 --> 00:27:07,760
and fall down and not be able
to get out of there.
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00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:11,390
So we surmise that that's
what happened to Shannan.
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00:27:13,260 --> 00:27:15,930
McGARVEY:
Law enforcement said that
she had drowned.
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00:27:16,030 --> 00:27:19,400
But the official autopsy report
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00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:22,040
listed her death
as undetermined.
490
00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:25,670
And I think even at one point,
said death by misadventure.
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00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:28,540
It seemed to be victim blaming.
492
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,980
And you have to ask yourself,
493
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,080
is it because
she was a sex worker?
494
00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:37,950
REPORTER:
These women were reportedly
prostitutes or escorts,
495
00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:41,490
and how does
that affect an investigation?
496
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:43,060
I'll be very frank about it.
497
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,830
Will it get
the exact same amount
498
00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:46,330
of close attention and manpower
499
00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:49,560
that say a missing schoolteacher
in Central Park might get?
500
00:27:49,660 --> 00:27:51,200
The reality is they will not.
501
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,100
Let's face it, they have sex
with strangers for money.
502
00:27:55,170 --> 00:27:56,710
McGARVEY:
The subtle message that
503
00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:57,940
was coming out during this time
504
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,570
was like,
"If you don't wanna get killed,
505
00:27:59,670 --> 00:28:00,780
don't be a sex worker."
506
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,410
They were all beautiful women.
507
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:09,020
They weren't just prostitutes,
as everybody is saying.
508
00:28:10,450 --> 00:28:12,850
RYDER:
It's been spun
a lot of different ways.
509
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:15,160
I don't care
what your occupation is,
510
00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:17,360
what your race,
religion, gender is.
511
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:21,030
You're a victim of ours, we'll
give you everything we got.
512
00:28:21,130 --> 00:28:26,840
We are driven by a passion
to give victims closure.
513
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:31,310
TOULON:
I can tell you the original
investigators had one goal.
514
00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:35,240
Bring the person who has killed
those women to justice.
515
00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:38,080
RYDER:
They're women.
516
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:39,810
They're women
that were murdered.
517
00:28:39,910 --> 00:28:41,180
They're victims.
518
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,490
But sometimes
these things take time.
519
00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:46,290
They're not done overnight.
520
00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:51,490
ALGAR:
So law enforcement
has all of this information
521
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:55,330
about these women
all the way back in 2011.
522
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:58,270
And remember, they also had
solid information
523
00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:02,000
about the man who targeted
and killed them.
524
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,170
RYDER:
Their profile told them
the killer was a big man,
525
00:29:05,270 --> 00:29:06,270
kind of a recluse.
526
00:29:06,370 --> 00:29:08,740
Who either drove
a Chevy Avalanche
527
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,110
or had access to one.
528
00:29:11,210 --> 00:29:13,580
He probably lived
in a middle-class community
529
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,620
on Long Island.
530
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,990
The man had a job.
531
00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:20,190
He likely commuted every day,
532
00:29:20,290 --> 00:29:22,760
like thousands of people
in Nassau County do
533
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:24,160
every day to Manhattan.
534
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,000
McGARVEY:
And then at the end of 2011,
535
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,300
with all of this
forward momentum on the case,
536
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,540
there was an election.
Which means new appointments.
537
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,240
There was a changing
of the guard in Suffolk County,
538
00:29:36,340 --> 00:29:39,540
and a new
Chief of Police comes in.
539
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,110
A guy named James Burke.
And everything changed.
540
00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:46,580
James Burke inherited
the Gilgo Beach case
541
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,550
when he became Chief of
Suffolk County Police in 2012.
542
00:29:50,650 --> 00:29:53,190
TIRELLI:
Jimmy Burke
was a friend of mine.
543
00:29:53,290 --> 00:29:57,090
Jimmy was actually one of
the smartest men I've ever met.
544
00:29:57,830 --> 00:30:00,230
But he had these demons in him.
545
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:03,670
McGARVEY:
Before he was appointed,
546
00:30:03,770 --> 00:30:05,330
an anonymous letter
was even written
547
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:08,040
about this guy
warning Suffolk County
548
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:11,170
not to appoint him
as Chief of Police.
549
00:30:11,270 --> 00:30:14,180
ALGAR:
Burke's unquenchable taste
for prostitutes
550
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,280
and his aggressive
sexual appetites,
551
00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:18,910
his presence
at swingers parties,
552
00:30:19,010 --> 00:30:21,050
those tales were not rare.
553
00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:23,990
But he seemed to be invincible
to scrutiny
554
00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:25,990
or discipline or punishment.
555
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,190
MURPHY:
Now he's taking over.
556
00:30:28,290 --> 00:30:30,330
He's the new sheriff in town.
557
00:30:30,430 --> 00:30:32,460
And he basically does
whatever he wants.
558
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,300
James Burke decided
to remove several members
559
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,570
from the task force
that were working
560
00:30:39,670 --> 00:30:41,140
to try and solve this case.
561
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:44,140
ALGAR:
He wanted his own regime.
562
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,170
He wanted to get rid of anyone
563
00:30:46,270 --> 00:30:48,540
who might have any competing
loyalties prior to him.
564
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,880
There were the Chief of
Detectives, Dominick Varrone,
565
00:30:51,980 --> 00:30:53,250
who had 40 years on the job,
566
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:55,950
had tremendous
institutional knowledge...
567
00:30:56,050 --> 00:31:00,320
was simply taken off the case.
He wasn't even debriefed.
568
00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:02,990
TOULON:
And then
there's Geraldine Hart,
569
00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:06,560
FBI Supervisory Agent
for Long Island.
570
00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:10,500
The Gilgo Beach investigation
is perhaps the most well-known
571
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,240
and complex that this department
has ever undertaken.
572
00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:18,310
She was also removed from
the task force by James Burke.
573
00:31:19,540 --> 00:31:22,080
Why is that important?
It's important because
574
00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:24,010
the people
who had been investigating Gilgo
575
00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:27,950
up until that point
did not relay their findings
576
00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:30,890
to the next group
of Burke's personnel
577
00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:32,320
who would take up the case.
578
00:31:34,790 --> 00:31:39,260
Removing a partner like the FBI
who has vast resources,
579
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,560
especially the forensic
capabilities that they had,
580
00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:46,630
tragically, it makes it harder
for this case to be solved.
581
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,370
ALGAR:
One of the theories at the time
582
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:52,070
was simply
that the Suffolk Police
583
00:31:52,170 --> 00:31:53,710
wanted credit for cracking it,
584
00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:56,950
as opposed to
federal investigators.
585
00:31:57,050 --> 00:31:58,710
So perhaps a case of hubris.
586
00:31:58,810 --> 00:32:02,680
These are people encroaching
on our investigative territory.
587
00:32:02,780 --> 00:32:04,090
So let's keep them at bay.
588
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:05,750
Once this case is solved,
589
00:32:05,850 --> 00:32:09,390
we want to be able to raise
the trophy for our department
590
00:32:09,490 --> 00:32:14,530
that will benefit Burke's career
and all those around him.
591
00:32:17,270 --> 00:32:21,240
It turns out, though, that's
not the reason why he did it.
592
00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:26,010
My name is Alexis Linkletter,
593
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:28,140
and I am
an investigative journalist,
594
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,480
podcaster,
and I'm from Long Island.
595
00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:38,150
This case essentially fell into
my lap between 2012 and 2013
596
00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:40,890
when Chris Loeb, a guy
I went to high school with,
597
00:32:40,990 --> 00:32:42,690
a guy I'd known
since seventh grade,
598
00:32:42,790 --> 00:32:48,430
essentially found himself at
the center of this insane story.
599
00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:50,300
REPORTER:
After years of controversy
600
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,400
surrounding guns
and a sex worker,
601
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:56,140
the Suffolk County Police Chief
resigned today.
602
00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:59,070
MURPHY:
James Burke was arrested
603
00:32:59,170 --> 00:33:02,440
for the cover up of an assault
on a suspect, Chris Loeb.
604
00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:05,780
REPORTER:
Christopher Loeb of Smithtown,
was taken into custody
605
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,380
for stealing belongings from
Burke's department-issued car,
606
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,250
which was parked
outside his home.
607
00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:13,960
That wouldn't necessarily have
been particularly interesting,
608
00:33:14,060 --> 00:33:16,930
except for what was found
inside the duffel bag.
609
00:33:17,030 --> 00:33:23,330
Which was sex toys, pornography,
and other just strange items
610
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:25,830
that you wouldn't expect
a Police Chief to have
611
00:33:25,930 --> 00:33:27,600
in his department-issued SUV.
612
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
LINKLETTER:
After this happened,
Chris is brought back
613
00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:40,050
to Suffolk County
Police Headquarters,
614
00:33:40,150 --> 00:33:42,050
and he's chained to a floor.
615
00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:43,750
He's beaten for hours.
616
00:33:43,850 --> 00:33:45,650
He's taunted by James Burke
617
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:48,290
and several
of his subordinate officers.
618
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:51,430
REPORTER:
Burke has now pled guilty
to federal charges
619
00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:55,130
of assaulting a suspect
and conspiring to cover it up.
620
00:33:55,230 --> 00:33:57,630
FITZGIBBON:
This whole part of the story
is so extraordinary.
621
00:33:57,730 --> 00:34:00,540
One has to ask, how much
did the Burke scandal
622
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,070
impact the Long Island
serial killer investigation?
623
00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:05,610
It has a huge impact because
624
00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:07,640
it happens
during this critical period,
625
00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:10,010
where the original Gilgo
investigation
626
00:34:10,110 --> 00:34:12,610
actually had made
some very good progress.
627
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,220
ALGAR:
Remember,
Suffolk County investigators
628
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,450
had this profile of an ogre
629
00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:22,160
who lived somewhere
in Massapequa Park.
630
00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:25,230
Who works somewhere
in Midtown Manhattan.
631
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:27,430
Who either once owned
632
00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:30,570
or still owns
a Chevy Avalanche.
633
00:34:30,670 --> 00:34:33,030
And because of this corruption
in the SCPD,
634
00:34:33,130 --> 00:34:37,540
he's been given this five-year
grace period to live his life.
635
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:42,410
Did this person
continue to commit murder?
636
00:34:42,510 --> 00:34:45,380
What if they moved away
from Long Island?
637
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,950
I had pretty much
given up hope at this point.
638
00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:52,190
Will investigators ever find
the Long Island serial killer?
639
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:54,520
[***]
640
00:34:59,790 --> 00:35:03,260
[***]
641
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:08,700
ALGAR:
So, after James Burke is ousted
642
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,210
as Suffolk County police chief
in 2015,
643
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:14,840
the investigation into
the Long Island serial killer
644
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:17,810
pretty much slows to a crawl
for the next three years.
645
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:26,760
But in the spring of 2018,
the Suffolk County Executive
646
00:35:26,860 --> 00:35:31,730
selected Geraldine Hart
as the Police Commissioner.
647
00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:33,400
Ironically, Geraldine Hart
648
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:35,860
was a former
FBI Supervisory Agent
649
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,100
for Long Island who was actually
removed from the Task Force
650
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,740
originally by then
Police Chief James Burke.
651
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:44,610
MURPHY:
All of a sudden, we hear
652
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:46,640
there's going to be
a press conference
653
00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:50,750
about this piece of evidence
never seen before.
654
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:54,450
I would first like to introduce
655
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:56,050
Suffolk County
Police Commissioner
656
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:57,690
Geraldine Hart.
657
00:35:57,790 --> 00:36:01,860
Today we are releasing
a significant piece of evidence
658
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,160
found at one of the crime
scenes along Ocean Parkway.
659
00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:08,530
A black leather belt.
660
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:15,870
Embossed with the letters
HM or WH was recovered
661
00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:19,940
during the initial stages
of this investigation.
662
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:27,050
We believe that the belt
was handled by the suspect
663
00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:31,990
and did not belong
to any of the victims.
664
00:36:32,090 --> 00:36:33,720
There have long been questions.
665
00:36:33,820 --> 00:36:35,920
What size is the waist
of the belt?
666
00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:39,660
It wasn't long after
that the police release a video
667
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,500
of Megan Waterman,
one of the Gilgo Four.
668
00:36:43,570 --> 00:36:45,030
MURPHY:
Megan Waterman is last seen
669
00:36:45,130 --> 00:36:49,100
leaving the Holiday Inn Express
in Hauppauge, Long Island.
670
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,540
She's in the lobby at the desk.
671
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,780
And then she just walks out
that door.
672
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,780
And vanishes.
673
00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:01,150
ALGAR:
At this point,
there is now a steady
674
00:37:01,250 --> 00:37:04,150
dispersal of new evidence
from the new regime
675
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:06,860
in Suffolk County
police headquarters.
676
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,020
They created enough momentum
at this point
677
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,830
to start to spur some questions
if they were closing in.
678
00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:16,160
Did they have a suspect?
679
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:20,970
Are they releasing these items
to perhaps get a reaction...
680
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:24,510
from the person
who's on their radar?
681
00:37:24,610 --> 00:37:26,170
There was this big rev up
682
00:37:26,270 --> 00:37:29,540
which really made us feel like
they were about to solve it.
683
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,050
But then,
it just dropped off again.
684
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:35,920
And it was quiet again.
685
00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:41,690
[***]
686
00:37:41,790 --> 00:37:46,060
MAN:
With a serial killer like this,
the thrill is in the kill.
687
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,030
What really drives him
is not sex
688
00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:52,700
but rather the power
over another human being.
689
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,020
TOULON:
But it's not really until 2022
when everything changed.
690
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,620
You have Ray Tierney
691
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,690
that's elected
as a District Attorney.
692
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:14,960
One of the first things that
Ray Tierney said to me was:
693
00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:19,260
"I wanna work with the sheriff's
office on every case possible,
694
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,330
including Gilgo.
695
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:22,960
And then a few months later,
696
00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:25,730
Rodney Harrison is now selected
as the Police Commissioner.
697
00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:30,510
REPORTER:
Rodney Harrison's career with
the NYPD leads to a new role
698
00:38:30,610 --> 00:38:32,270
as he steps in
as the commissioner
699
00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:34,510
of the Suffolk County
Police Department.
700
00:38:34,610 --> 00:38:37,180
This is
a bittersweet moment for me.
701
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,250
TOULON:
Rodney Harrison,
who is a former chief of police
702
00:38:40,350 --> 00:38:41,680
with the New York City
Police Department,
703
00:38:41,780 --> 00:38:43,620
was also chief of detectives.
704
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,760
A wealth of experience
when it comes to investigations.
705
00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:48,690
He came into this building...
706
00:38:50,190 --> 00:38:53,830
And said to me,
he met with my staff, he goes:
707
00:38:53,930 --> 00:38:56,500
"We're gonna work
collaboratively on everything,
708
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,270
and there's not gonna be
any silos."
709
00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:05,940
We will not rest until we bring
those accountable to justice.
710
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:10,680
That solving this serial case
711
00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:12,750
is gonna be
very, very important to me.
712
00:39:15,050 --> 00:39:17,290
He announced the creation
of a task force
713
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:19,690
dedicated solely
to the Gilgo case.
714
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,260
And he used language
that we had not heard
715
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,130
in a very long time.
716
00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:35,470
TIRELLI:
Now remember,
the early investigation
717
00:39:35,570 --> 00:39:37,840
turned up a lot of clues.
718
00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:39,710
There was a lot of meat
on the bone.
719
00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:42,410
Now, he's doing the legwork.
It's a puzzle.
720
00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:43,980
You're putting pieces in,
721
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,150
and at the end,
you assemble a puzzle.
722
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:49,320
About a year
after they found the bodies,
723
00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:51,850
Suffolk County PD
had two specific areas
724
00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:54,120
that were of great interest
to them.
725
00:39:57,930 --> 00:40:01,900
REPORTER:
Cell data traced the killer's
calls to New York City.
726
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,570
And also to Massapequa Park
in Long Island.
727
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:08,800
Now, the task force
and the FBI reexamined
728
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:11,810
the cell phone data
from the time of the murders.
729
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,210
There's an area of a confluence
of cell phone towers,
730
00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:17,880
and that was mapped out.
731
00:40:20,450 --> 00:40:21,880
They called it the box.
732
00:40:24,850 --> 00:40:28,360
One box was in Massapequa
on Long Island,
733
00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:30,790
and one box was in Manhattan.
734
00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:34,530
Somewhere in this area,
it's a possibility
735
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:38,130
that the killer lived
within Massapequa's box.
736
00:40:41,570 --> 00:40:44,170
But so did 500 other families.
737
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,510
FITZGIBBON:
But it's not as if
police didn't have
738
00:40:49,610 --> 00:40:51,710
some very specific clues
to work with.
739
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:58,650
Back in 2010, Amber Costello's
roommate, David Schaller,
740
00:40:58,750 --> 00:41:00,690
had given investigators
a description
741
00:41:00,790 --> 00:41:02,890
of both the suspect
and his vehicle.
742
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:07,060
MURPHY:
Dave Schaller remembered
this hulking man
743
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,670
that came into the house
on September 1st, 2010
744
00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:12,430
who looked like an ogre.
745
00:41:12,530 --> 00:41:14,570
[KNOCKING ON DOOR]
746
00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:19,010
He was described as being
between 6-foot-4 and 6-foot-6.
747
00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:21,840
And then when he ran out of that
house, the vehicle was seen.
748
00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:25,380
And apparently, this vehicle
was a first generation
749
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,950
dark green Chevy Avalanche.
750
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,850
It was an unusual vehicle.
751
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:32,990
I don't wanna Monday morning
quarterback anyone.
752
00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:36,790
But if I get
a specific vehicle...
753
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:42,000
without a plate, what we do
is we'll run a search.
754
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,200
So the state police
plug that Avalanche in,
755
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,970
and they give you
every Avalanche that color
756
00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:51,710
in Massapequa, Nassau County,
whatever you give them,
757
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,740
and they'll give you
all those cars.
758
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:02,950
So police conduct a search
for that particular vehicle.
759
00:42:03,890 --> 00:42:07,960
They overlay it
in that zone of interest
760
00:42:08,060 --> 00:42:09,960
in Massapequa.
761
00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:12,860
And they get a hit.
762
00:42:17,770 --> 00:42:21,300
[***]
763
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,710
ALGAR:
In March of 2022,
764
00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:26,310
for the first time since 2010,
765
00:42:27,810 --> 00:42:31,050
13 years after the Gilgo Four
were discovered,
766
00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:33,420
Police have a name.
767
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,850
And they now have a suspect.
768
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:37,990
FITZGIBBON:
And what's the best way
769
00:42:38,090 --> 00:42:39,820
to confirm that he's the man?
770
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:42,260
DNA.
771
00:42:45,060 --> 00:42:49,760
In 2010,
investigators found five hairs
772
00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:52,670
on three of the victims.
773
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:55,270
Because the bodies
were exposed to the elements,
774
00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:57,240
those hairs were degraded.
775
00:42:58,210 --> 00:42:59,440
So you couldn't use
776
00:42:59,540 --> 00:43:01,980
traditional
DNA analysis on them.
777
00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:07,620
At the time, investigators
could only determine that
778
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,290
four of the hairs were female,
one was male,
779
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:12,420
and they were all Caucasian.
780
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,020
MURPHY:
In 2010, the technology
was not advanced enough
781
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,130
to identify whose DNA
was on those hairs.
782
00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:23,370
But by 2022, DNA technology
had finally advanced enough
783
00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:28,040
where investigators could pull
a profile from the hairs.
784
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,540
TOULON:
The problem, however,
785
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,010
was the suspect
had never been arrested.
786
00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:35,440
And so,
if the suspect has never had
787
00:43:35,540 --> 00:43:37,210
any interaction
with law enforcement,
788
00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:41,650
his fingerprints or any DNA
has never been in our system.
789
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,420
RYDER:
So, once they had a target,
790
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,330
they went
after collecting family DNA.
791
00:43:50,430 --> 00:43:52,330
TOULON:
One of the things
that you have to think about
792
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:55,000
when you're surveilling someone
and you need DNA, you know,
793
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:58,030
you wanna get
a DNA that's discarded.
794
00:43:58,130 --> 00:44:01,040
MURPHY:
But to get the samples,
you have to get creative.
795
00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:04,940
First, investigators pose
as sanitation workers,
796
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,680
and show up at the house,
797
00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:09,910
and start collecting bottles
outside the home,
798
00:44:10,010 --> 00:44:12,180
and they do DNA swabs.
799
00:44:13,850 --> 00:44:15,580
Then one day, the suspect
800
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,620
walks out
of his Manhattan office,
801
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:19,520
and he's holding a pizza box,
802
00:44:19,620 --> 00:44:23,060
and he throws it
in the garbage can.
803
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,030
The investigators
take the box out,
804
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:27,930
and they swab the pizza crust
and the napkin,
805
00:44:28,030 --> 00:44:30,130
and they send that
to the crime lab.
806
00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:37,840
It was very important to connect
that pizza crust, or that DNA
807
00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:39,370
to the DNA at the crime scene
808
00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:42,940
to conclusively link
the suspect to the crimes.
809
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:48,550
MURPHY:
As they're waiting
for the results to come back,
810
00:44:48,650 --> 00:44:50,350
subpoenas are issued,
811
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:53,960
and they're searching his
personal cell phone records.
812
00:44:54,060 --> 00:44:55,560
They're trying
to connect the dots
813
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:59,090
between his regular cell phone
and the burner phones.
814
00:45:00,730 --> 00:45:05,000
TIERNEY:
We executed over 300 subpoenas,
search warrants
815
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:06,770
pertaining to this individual.
816
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:08,340
We were able to identify
817
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,340
seven separate burner phones
that he used.
818
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,240
We compared
his personal cell site records.
819
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:18,150
If the personal phone
would bounce off a cell tower,
820
00:45:18,250 --> 00:45:21,650
it was always consistent
and in close proximity
821
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:23,350
with the target phones.
822
00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:28,120
MURPHY:
All this occurs
over the course of a year.
823
00:45:28,220 --> 00:45:31,090
Investigators now have
cell phone data
824
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:35,000
that puts burner phones,
and the suspect's cell phone,
825
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:37,670
and some of the victims'
phones together.
826
00:45:37,770 --> 00:45:40,040
And then the DNA results
come back.
827
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:43,540
And they have enough
to make an arrest.
828
00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:52,350
So now, it's time
to close in on him.
829
00:45:52,450 --> 00:45:55,520
At least 10 investigators
from the Gilgo Beach Task Force
830
00:45:55,620 --> 00:45:58,990
who've been watching this guy
for the last year
831
00:45:59,090 --> 00:46:01,190
are in position
outside the suspect's office
832
00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:04,330
in midtown Manhattan,
ready to move in.
833
00:46:05,130 --> 00:46:08,160
And finally, here he comes.
834
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:12,700
[***]
835
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,170
They box him in
so he can't escape.
836
00:46:20,740 --> 00:46:22,610
After nearly 13 years.
837
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:24,850
ALGAR:
After all of the turmoil
838
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:27,280
in the Suffolk County
Police Department.
839
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:33,150
And now, this moment of
redemption in the investigation.
840
00:46:33,250 --> 00:46:39,830
This architect,
father, stepfather, husband,
841
00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:43,330
is arrested as the Gilgo
Beach serial killer...
842
00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:48,570
whose name we learned
is Rex Heuermann.
843
00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:58,410
[***]
844
00:46:58,510 --> 00:47:01,650
REPORTER 1:
We wanna begin right now with
breaking news out of New York.
845
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:04,620
REPORTER 2:
A major development
in a long unsolved case
846
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:06,860
is revealed by investigators.
847
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,230
REPORTER 3:
Police have arrested a suspect
in the murders on Gilgo Beach.
848
00:47:12,530 --> 00:47:14,260
McGARVEY:
After 13 years,
849
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,170
this bombshell drops
out of seemingly nowhere,
850
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:19,930
and it just cracks the case
wide open.
851
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,640
REPORTER 2:
You can see the suspect
walking down Fifth Avenue
852
00:47:23,740 --> 00:47:27,080
when a group of agents
swoop in and make the arrest.
853
00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:30,380
REPORTER 1:
They corner him
so he can't escape.
854
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,480
Charged with killing
three women,
855
00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:35,220
Rex Heuermann
is also the primary suspect
856
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,120
in the death of a fourth.
857
00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:39,950
SHEEHAN:
I remember thinking, "Oh, shit.
858
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:43,260
Who would've suspected that
that guy was the killer?"
859
00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:48,130
The old thing:
"It's right under your nose."
860
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:51,570
It's right in front of you.
You can't see it sometimes.
861
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,100
So the Nassau County
Police Academy,
862
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,410
which has the Intel Center at
the time, was on Second Avenue.
863
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,910
We were two blocks
from the actual house,
864
00:48:04,010 --> 00:48:06,110
literally around the corner.
865
00:48:06,210 --> 00:48:09,550
It's like, "Jeez, I passed
that block a thousand times.
866
00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:13,860
I worked out of that building.
867
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,330
I drove past it a dozen times,
you know, easily.
868
00:48:22,130 --> 00:48:25,930
TOULON:
The fact that he was the devil
that walked amongst us...
869
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,670
He made you scratch your head,
870
00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:30,510
like,
"Wow, how did this happen?"
871
00:48:30,610 --> 00:48:34,040
Because he basically was the
person that lived next door.
872
00:48:34,140 --> 00:48:36,910
FITZGIBBON:
It doesn't take long to figure
out a serial killer is gonna be
873
00:48:37,010 --> 00:48:39,410
the front page of
the New York Postthat day.
874
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,520
It's the perfect tabloid story.
875
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:44,250
Who is Rex Heuermann?
876
00:48:44,350 --> 00:48:46,690
What's his family situation
like? What's his background?
877
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:49,390
REPORTER 1:
Rex Heuermann,
a longtime resident
878
00:48:49,490 --> 00:48:51,860
of Massapequa Park,
Long Island.
879
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,730
REPORTER 2:
A 59 year-old architect
880
00:48:53,830 --> 00:48:56,400
who's also
a husband and a father.
881
00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:00,970
Rex Heuermann is a demon
that walks among us.
882
00:49:01,070 --> 00:49:03,970
A predator that ruined families.
883
00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:07,410
SHEEHAN:
At the exact same time,
884
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:09,610
there is a media circus
at the courthouse.
885
00:49:09,710 --> 00:49:12,510
There's a media circus breaking
out in front of his house.
886
00:49:12,610 --> 00:49:16,620
REPORTER:
Residents of Massapequa Park
were shocked to discover
887
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:20,390
that Rex Heuermann had been
living just a few houses away.
888
00:49:20,490 --> 00:49:22,420
To know that something
like this is going on,
889
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,390
or someone is living 'em
in this community, it's crazy.
890
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,230
FITZGIBBON:
We're scrambling to get
any information we can.
891
00:49:31,330 --> 00:49:33,440
Who is this guy?
What's his background?
892
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:36,770
Shocking.
You know, it's scary, too.
893
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:39,970
SHEEHAN:
The rest of the houses
in this neighborhood
894
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,310
are middle-class homes.
895
00:49:42,410 --> 00:49:45,110
His looks more like
a house of horrors,
896
00:49:45,210 --> 00:49:46,580
and he's an architect.
897
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,380
Neighbors told us
that they wouldn't let
898
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,190
their kids trick or treat
at that particular house.
899
00:49:51,290 --> 00:49:54,020
The guy was odd.
I kept him at arm's length
900
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,560
because I really didn't
wanna be close to him.
901
00:49:58,190 --> 00:49:59,790
REPORTER 1:
This is the house that police
902
00:49:59,890 --> 00:50:01,330
have been swarming
this morning,
903
00:50:01,430 --> 00:50:03,500
105 First Avenue
in Massapequa Park.
904
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,970
REPORTER 2:
Using heavy equipment
and forensic K-9 units,
905
00:50:07,070 --> 00:50:09,270
police combed through
the home's backyard.
906
00:50:09,370 --> 00:50:12,240
REPORTER 1:
Officers in hazmat suits
going into the house.
907
00:50:12,340 --> 00:50:14,240
So clearly,
they're in there to do
908
00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:16,880
some sort of forensic activity.
909
00:50:16,980 --> 00:50:19,310
REPORTER 3:
Police are looking into
whether the victims
910
00:50:19,410 --> 00:50:21,320
were ever inside the residence.
911
00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:24,950
REPORTER 4:
Authorities uncovered
more than 200 firearms
912
00:50:25,050 --> 00:50:27,020
in a vault
located in the basement
913
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,660
of Rex Heuermann's home.
914
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,330
It was a big gun vault.
It was a huge gun vault.
915
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:32,960
The guy had 300 guns
in his house.
916
00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:37,470
The neighbor was describing it
as a soundproof locked room.
917
00:50:37,570 --> 00:50:41,470
Years ago, I've seen
a bunch of guys carrying this
918
00:50:41,570 --> 00:50:44,370
incredibly heavy object
in there.
919
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:46,140
And I said,
"Wow, that's heavy rocks."
920
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,880
And he said it was an iron door
for the basement.
921
00:50:48,980 --> 00:50:51,980
FITZGIBBON:
The whole speculation is
he's butchering these people
922
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,050
in his own basement.
923
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:55,620
That he had a killing vault.
924
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:58,650
We have obtained
a massive amount of evidence,
925
00:50:58,750 --> 00:51:00,520
as well as trace evidence,
926
00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:03,660
including blood, DNA,
and hair fibers.
927
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,230
It's not like TV.
It's going to be a while
928
00:51:06,330 --> 00:51:08,500
for the analysts
to do their job.
929
00:51:12,370 --> 00:51:17,540
Remember, these crimes weren't
committed at Gilgo Beach.
930
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,310
So the question is,
931
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:23,180
did Heuermann commit
these crimes in his house?
932
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,480
REPORTER:
Did the family
know about his actions?
933
00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:28,150
And are they
assisting investigators?
934
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:30,690
As this unfolds,
we'll learn more information
935
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:32,490
about what the family knew.
936
00:51:32,590 --> 00:51:34,660
SHEEHAN:
The idea that the wife
didn't know anything
937
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,730
about what he was doing
is hard to believe.
938
00:51:37,830 --> 00:51:40,360
The most mysterious figure
in this whole thing
939
00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:43,700
is Asa, Rex's wife.
940
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,970
Because we don't know
what her role is,
941
00:51:46,070 --> 00:51:47,600
what her motivation is.
942
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:51,140
Nobody's opinion is
that they have a bead on Asa,
943
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:52,910
on whether
she was involved or not.
944
00:51:53,010 --> 00:51:54,580
It's kind of like
a big question mark,
945
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,250
because Asa has not talked
to any of us.
946
00:51:58,350 --> 00:52:00,050
We can only speculate.
947
00:52:00,150 --> 00:52:05,090
As the days tick by, the other
reporters were desperately
948
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:09,360
trying to report this story,
and find her and talk to her.
949
00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:11,230
But it was like a black hole.
950
00:52:11,330 --> 00:52:13,700
[***]
951
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,480
ASA:
How could you not know?
952
00:53:08,420 --> 00:53:09,780
How could you not know
953
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,120
that your husband
was a serial killer?
954
00:53:12,220 --> 00:53:15,660
Known what?
My husband was home here.
955
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,860
He's a family man.
956
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,360
They're telling me
that he's been soliciting sex
957
00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:21,900
from sex workers. What?
958
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,670
I don't have sex
with my husband?
959
00:53:23,770 --> 00:53:25,600
I don't satisfy him.
960
00:53:28,770 --> 00:53:31,640
He comes home
and eats my dinner.
961
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,710
It's not good enough?
962
00:53:39,580 --> 00:53:40,950
[SCOFFS]
963
00:53:41,050 --> 00:53:42,420
No, it's...
964
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,750
I don't believe
my husband did this.
965
00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:48,260
[***]
966
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,000
[***]
967
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,000
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968
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,000
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