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Previously on The Practice.

My name is Hannibal Lecter. You plan to argue insanity?

You murdered and ate three people, Mr. Lecter. I didn't kill them. The other

killed them.

He has never denied consuming the victims, but it's always the other

stabbed the girls.

Hello, Clarice. Does Bobby know?

Does he know what?

That you're in love with me.

Instead of persecuting me, you should be looking for him, especially since he's

planning to kill Clarice.

I got stabbed two years ago. A man stuck a knife into me three times. I have

never gone back to being okay, no matter how much that you insist that I have.

We find the defendant, Lawrence O'Malley, not guilty.

What I'd like to do is get him civilly committed. I need you to testify against

him. Just get him.

And if he resists, shoot him. He's a cannibal, and he has made it clear that

is coming after me. The petition is denied.

Come near me, I'll kill you.

You'll go to heaven and I will take you there myself.

Why don't you go on ahead without me?

I Told

you I wasn't gonna go

Yes, it is.

A man has been shot.

It may be fatal.

My name is Robert Donald.

Slow down, sir. I'm not speaking very fast, ma 'am.

The address is 1312 Beacon Street. There's a gunshot victim?

Yes. We need an ambulance right away at 1312 Beacon. And who shot the man?

A man has been shot.

Please get an ambulance to 1312 Beacon.

Yeah.

Is he dead?

I think so.

Did I kill him?

O'Malley, three shots.

Where are they?

In the bedroom.

There's an army in there.

What happened?

We need a few minutes, please.

This room is considered part of the crime scene.

The police will need to come in.

No crime was committed.

Please give us two minutes and we'll be out.

Okay, there is no way you talk. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I know conventional wisdom says don't talk, but here, given our relationship

with Helen? Helen can't cut this off.

Look, this is exactly the kind of scenario where the conclusion tends to

the assumption. If we don't cooperate, the assumption will be possible murder.

The man was unarmed, three gunshots. They're going to be thinking crime.

Possibly. And if we don't talk, definitely.

Everybody shut up.

This is what we're going to do.

She's in some shock. She needs medical attention. We need to get her to a

now. That'll give us some time.

We can take this time and go over what we'll give them. Are we clear?

I'll get you admitted to the hospital.

You'll stay there tonight, Bobby. You'll stay with her. We'll have your clothes

sent. When you check out tomorrow, you come directly to the office.

I'll have security at your room.

Other than the doctor, you'll talk to nobody.

Now, say absolutely nothing on our way out.

I'll talk with Walsh. Walk right out. Don't even break stride.

Illinois, you and Jimmy stay behind till they kick you out. We need some ears in

the room to get a sense of what they're thinking.

Let's go.

Linda's in no shape to talk right now. She needs medical attention. We're going

to get her to a doctor. How could we just ask her? She's in some shock. We

try to set something up for tomorrow.

Come on.

Were you here when it happened, Bobby? I need to be with Lindsay.

Manslaughter? We should consider it.

Consider it? Consider this.

They got no body. You can't prove no slaughter without the man.

Rodney, they can prove murder without a body. I don't want to have to tell you

that again. They found remnants of her in your car.

Well, pet the pud, then, for luck. We need... Nor do I want to tell you again

stop asking me to pet the pud.

Chucky, Chucky, gimme, gimme. Rodney, I will get off this case right now. I

swear I'm sick of it. No, please.

We're gonna win this thing, Beck. You, me, and Pugsley. We're a team. Now, come

on. Let's go.

You don't remember shooting him at all?

No.

I remember he said the thing about me going to heaven.

And then... I... Then I was in my room.

And I went to the door to look out.

Bobby was calling the police.

O'Malley was on the floor.

The press is already calling.

I assume we have no comment.

None for now. Public opinion could sway the decision to indict. We should

probably issue something.

You learned anything last night?

Pretty tight -lipped.

Helen said they'd probably be open to self -defense, but Lindsay's got to give

them a statement.

Where are we?

No decisions have been made yet.

Let's get everybody in the conference room.

Where's Rebecca?

She's in trial.

After impounding the vehicle, we did an inventory search.

We found some blood in the trunk.

Did you do any DNA testing?

We did. It was an exact genetic match to the victim, Nancy Connell. What else

did you find?

Also in the trunk, a hammer with dried blood and hair on the head.

And, sir, were you able to determine who owned this vehicle?

It was registered to the defendant.

Thank you. And at some point, you located the defendant.

Yes, he was arrested trying to purchase merchandise with a stolen credit card.

Whose credit card?

The victim's, Nancy Connell.

You say the victim. Was any victim ever found?

No, we never found her, but the blood on the hammer indicates... Thank you.

Any witness ever place Nancy Connell with my client?

No.

You really can't move this idiot.

He says he'll accept trespassing.

Don't look at me. I can't even get him to take it seriously. He keeps demanding

I pet his pud.

How's Lindsay?

Not good.

What's going to happen? I'm not really in the loop. Walsh has it.

That can't be a good sign. It isn't.

Miss Gamble?

I'll see you back in there. Okay.

You wanted to see us?

Yes.

The defendant may be taking the stand. I'm not sure you're going to want to be

there for that.

I don't know what he might say about your daughter.

We've prepared ourselves. We choose to be there.

Well, even so... We choose to be there.

I still say don't talk.

In which case, they'll arrest me. Lindsay, the likelihood is that there's

to be an arrest here. Why? He was a serial killer.

Violating his TRO.

He had no gun. She didn't know that. His pattern was to kill by knife, Bobby.

She knew that. All I knew is that he had come to my house and he wouldn't leave.

Let's dial it back.

If they don't have enough to indict, rule of thumb, we don't talk. But they

Eugene, unless they exercise discretion not to. And the only way they're ever

going to exercise that discretion is if Bobby and I give them a statement.

I'd agree if the goal here is to avoid arrest, but that may not be a reasonable

goal. Exactly. We should be thinking trial, how to win at trial. And in that

case, we give them nothing. Wait a second.

You all just heard her story.

What is she going to say that could hurt us at trial?

What is your version that concerns me?

My version?

What you said she said before she fired.

He made the crack about heaven.

Lindsay said, you're going ahead without me. That sounds a little too clever,

reflective even.

Look, a cannibal showed up at my door.

Enter the premises. He had made threats about killing me before. No jury is

going to convict me for defending myself. And the prosecution isn't going

waste time trying a case they can't win. I am not standing trial for murder.

We need to squash this thing now. And if I have to talk to do that, then I'm

going to talk. What if you say something? I won't. I know the drill,

We might want to argue diminished capacity.

And we don't need detectives testifying. Gee, she seemed to know the drill. My

state of mind today doesn't bear on what it was yesterday.

Even so. If I don't talk, they'll arrest me.

It's my decision.

I want to give them a statement.

Bobby, my office, please.

She's in no place to be making decisions if she's that emotional.

Eugene. And neither are you if you can't see that.

I have half a mind to get her judged incompetent. What she's saying isn't

necessarily wrong, Eugene. If she's screaming it, I have to question where

coming from. I agree. It's a close call.

But I think we should cooperate.

If we do this, it's under my control.

If I don't like what I'm hearing, I'm shutting it down.

Okay.

I just left Helen.

Walk past the case.

She thinks if there's any noise, he'll indict to protect his ass.

She also thinks you guys have to say something.

Otherwise, you give them no choice.

We've decided to talk.

Okay. Barbie?

Are you sure?

Set it up.

We all, of course, stand united in our support of Lindsay Dole.

It's always tragic when there's a loss of human life, but in this situation,

Lindsay was defending her own life.

As you know, this office tried to get Mr. O'Malley civilly committed. We

regarded him as a danger to himself, to others, and especially to Lindsay since

he had repeatedly threatened her. Is there a reason she won't speak to police

about what happened? The only reason was medical. Lindsay was naturally

suffering from some shock and was taken to a hospital.

She plans to fully cooperate with this investigation.

In fact, members of this office are arranging for her to meet with police.

As we speak.

If you tell me to kiss Pugsley one more time, I'll file a motion to withdraw.

Rebecca. Stop touching yourself. It's a problem, okay?

One doctor told me I could cut back if I got others to touch it.

Come on, come on, come on. No judge is going to let you off middle of trial.

Like I'm the first client ever asked you to lick his chopper.

Do I testify or not?

If you don't testify, the victim's blood in your car, your prints on the hammer,

her blood and hair on the hammer, all that goes unanswered. You do testify,

record can be introduced. There are risks either way, Rodney.

I think the jury has to hear from me.

They don't get to hear about the other, right? The other murder -rape no, since

you were acquitted, that can't come in.

Excellent.

I'll testify.

Anything she said to her husband, out of bounds. Marital communication.

Anything she said to us, out of bounds. Lawyer -client.

Anything she said to her doctor, out of bounds. Privileged.

Can we ask her her name?

Look, she doesn't have to talk at all.

We can arrest her right now, whether she talks or not. Well, why haven't you?

Would you like us to?

All right.

We're here to cooperate.

Bring her in.

No. You talk to her at our firm.

Why? Because that's the way it has to be.

Eugene and Jimmy just called.

Walsh agreed to meet here under our control. They'll no doubt want separate

statements from us sequestered from each other.

Did you tell them he was coming toward me when I fired?

He wasn't.

Bobby.

In my mind, which is what's relevant.

Lindsay, let's get something very straight.

If we lie and they catch us in a lie, you're dead.

The truth supports you here.

You were in fear for your life. You just say what you saw and remember, nothing

more. But if they think I executed him, they'll arrest me.

Did I execute him?

I think you snapped.

Are you going to tell them what I said right before I fired? No.

I think we should say that he was coming for me. Lindsay. I threatened him in

the courtroom. That doesn't mean... People heard me say that I'd kill him.

on. You hold on. You're not the one they might arrest. You need to calm down. I

won't calm down. Shut up.

Just shut up.

Now listen to me.

Forensics will show whether the guy was moving. They'll be able to piece

together everything that happened.

Don't even think about trying to change the facts.

And beyond this trial, if there is a trial,

you're a wife and a mother. You will never survive this emotionally if you

to lie or cover it up.

Lindsay, you did nothing wrong here.

You were under extreme stress, oppression.

You've not.

That's what happened.

That's what we say happened.

Why can't I even remember it?

I don't deny being with her. I met her all right. She met me, my family,

Pugsley. She met your family?

Well, she would if I had one.

Fourth and at nine.

How did you meet Nancy Connell, Rodney?

Well, I was driving home.

It was late, and I saw this man assaulting her.

Where?

Side of the road in Newton.

I get out to help her, and this guy, he's swinging his hammer at her, so I

this kind of body block on him, knocked him over.

He took off.

I helped her, and her head was bleeding a little bit. You know, other than that,

she was okay.

We ended up going back to my place.

She spent the night. Next morning, I wake up.

She's gone. My car is gone. I figure, you know, she must have stole it or

something. Next thing I know, I'm being arrested for killing her, which I never

did.

You just came across her one night while another man was hitting her on the head

with a hammer.

Yes, ma 'am.

And you saved her.

Yes, ma 'am. You also saved the hammer.

I threw it in the trunk, yeah.

You didn't call the police to report the assault.

She didn't want that.

Why? Did she know him?

She didn't say.

Well, surely you discussed this other man.

I don't think we did.

She's being attacked with a hammer. You don't ask what it's about or who this

guy is. You just take her back to your place.

Well, to be honest, the only thing I was interested in was introducing her to

Pugsley. Who's Pugsley?

My penis.

Did you have sexual relations with Nancy Connell?

Yes.

And the next morning when you woke up?

Gone. You know, it's happened to me before.

Really? Do they always steal your car?

No.

Why didn't you report your car as stolen, Mr. Edsel? Had drugs in it.

Didn't want to get arrested.

Well, the police didn't find any drugs. They did find the murder weapon, and

they did find Nancy Connell's blood and hair.

Well, the police probably stole the drugs, they do that, and her blood must

come from the hammer.

Several witnesses heard Lindsay Dole threaten to kill Mr. O'Malley in court

yesterday. Thus far, no charges have been filed, but police investigators are

the building behind me, listening to what Lindsay Dole has to say.

Did you know it was him when you opened the door?

It ran through my mind. It could be him.

I thought the likelihood is it isn't.

But I thought it could be.

But I wasn't going to spend the rest of my life afraid to open my front door, so

I opened it. And when it was him, I just backed up, and I called Bobby, and I

called the police.

Right away?

Yes.

Where was Bobby?

I was in the bedroom checking on our son.

When she screamed, I ran out.

O'Malley was there.

In the house?

Just inside the front door, yes.

What was Lindsay doing?

She was calling the police.

And Mr. O'Malley, he was just standing there?

He was saying, why did you betray me, Clarice?

Bobby kept telling him to get out, threatened to throw him out, and that's

he threatened Bobby.

What did he say to Bobby?

He just looked at me and said, you might get hurt.

It was at this point his other persona seemed to come out.

How could you tell?

He just suddenly looked mad, crazy.

Bobby kept going, who are you, who are you?

Then he looks at me.

Bobby? No, O'Malley. And he said, you're going to heaven.

I'm taking you to heaven.

It looked like he planned to kill me right then.

And what happened?

That's the last thing I really remember.

I heard Bobby calling the police, saying a man had been shot.

And I thought to myself...

Oh, my God.

Maybe it was me who shot him.

Come on, I nailed it. Give it up. You didn't nail it, Rodney. That testimony

laughable. You think the jury's going to believe you just happened upon her

being hit with a hammer?

Reasonable doubt.

You need to think seriously about taking manslaughter, because that little

performance... They have no body. They got no witnesses to contradict me. That

is reasonable doubt, and you argue it. You got that? I don't have to do

anything!

You don't make a good impression, Rodney.

You just came off not only as if you're lying, but as if you don't care.

Her parents are sitting in that courtroom.

I saw the jury looking at them. I saw the jury looking at you. They are

at you with contempt.

Now, you need to get your mind off your penis and start thinking about your

neck, because in my professional opinion, you are looking at murder, one.

Life in prison.

Try to get that.

Preliminary forensics puts you between Lindsay and O'Malley. I didn't deny

did you? I didn't even talk about where you were. They also show he wasn't

moving forward.

Are they going to file? They're giving us no indication, but if it looks that

way, I'd like to surrender you down there. The press is all over our

How could they make a case? The guy was a cannibal. The sticking point is he

wasn't armed.

Rebecca, this tape came for you. What tape?

There was no note. It was just delivered.

Should I pop it in?

My name is Nancy Connell.

I'm being held.

The date is May 10th, 2002.

Here's a copy of today's paper.

Please help me.

Please.

Please.

Who was that?

Victim from my murder trial.

Victim? She's alive.

I see that, Lucy.

Lindsay Dole?

Let us surrender.

I wish I could. Walsh ordered me to take her here.

Oh, come on!

Please place your hands behind your back.

Bobby. I'm coming with you. Lindsay Dole, you're under arrest for the murder

Lawrence O'Malley.

You have the right to remain silent.

You say absolutely nothing.

All talking stops.

I need to take care of a few things here, and I'll be down there.

Do you understand these rights as I read them to you?

2002.

Here's a copy of today's paper.

Please help me.

This came to you when?

Either late last night or early this morning. Left at the door.

And you don't know who delivered it?

No.

Obviously, you have to dismiss Helen. There's been no murder.

I'll show it to the parents to confirm it's her.

Have you talked to your client yet?

He hasn't arrived from jail yet. The transport's due for now.

All right, when he gets here, tell him the murder charges will be dropped.

He'll be rearrested for kidnapping, and I'm adding a torture charge, looking at

the same life sentence.

I'll drop the torture charge if he tells us where she is.

Rebecca.

How is she?

How would you be?

Commonwealth versus Lindsay Dole, murder in the second degree. Eugene Young, for

the defendant, we waive reading into a plea of not guilty and ask that the

defendant be released on her own recognizance. Kenneth Walsh, for the

Commonwealth, we do not oppose bail, but we would seek to have the firm of

Donald Young disqualified from representing the defendant.

They are potential witnesses.

The only potential witness would be Robert Donald, who cannot be forced to

testify against his wife. Is counsel representing to the court?

That Mr. Donald will not testify?

We are making no representations to the court. In which case, I renew my motion

to have this firm disqualified.

Any such motion would be premature at an arraignment. I'd ask the court to give

Ms. Dole time to weigh how she wants to proceed.

I won't rule for now.

But, Mr. Young, I highly recommend another firm.

We'd also be seeking an immediate trial date. Ms. Dole is a respected lawyer in

the community, and we do not want these baseless charges hanging over her in

perpetuity. Commonwealth can be ready in a month.

Trial date is set for June 23rd.

Anything else?

The defendant is released on $200 ,000 bail.

Adjourned.

Get her out the back.

Don't they have to let me go? No, they're filing kidnapping charges. Hold

maybe never went to no law school. Funny, I thought you did.

But my friends say the kidnapping would be what they call a lesser included

offense, which double jeopardy counts for that, too. The kidnapping is

Rodney. They can file for as long as you have her. I don't have her. Then who

does? How do I know? Maybe the man with the hammer came back.

Well, it's unfortunate you don't have her because she's your only ticket out.

You are facing kidnapping and torture. You're looking at life, and they will

you on it. Oh, really? Gee, and you've been so encouraging up till now. You

listen to me.

It's time for you to get on my side.

Fire me any time.

The deal is this.

I walk free and clear, or I don't help with that girl.

They're not going to let you out.

Well, you know what?

I can survive prison.

I can live there just fine.

And where Nancy Connell is, who knows whether she can live fine or

not.

Or for how long.

The hurdle we face is whether the judge will even allow us to argue self

-defense. What? This is just like the Pearson case, Lindsay. That was a wrong

ruling. Even so, we need to brief it and prepare, because if we can't argue

justifiable use of force, that leaves us with diminished capacity. What about

mistaken self -defense?

That helps with the first gunshot, but the second, too.

I'm more comfortable with diminished capacity.

The fact that you can't remember pulling the trigger...

What did the doctor call it?

Psychological amnesia.

That may be the way to go. We need to start lining up and preparing our

testimony now. We should also hire our own forensics team. If we could at least

make the argument that he was leaning towards you, that'll help.

Bobby, wait.

Before you go, I don't see how you don't testify.

The jury will wonder if you don't. Which means we might get bounced off the

case. We need to prepare a list of lawyers who we think can handle this. I

us doing it. We may not be allowed to do it. Let's fight that one first. I want

us doing this case.

We'll get through this.

We?

I'm the one they arrested, Bobby. I didn't see you wearing handcuffs today.

You don't think this involves me, Lindsay?

Not enough it doesn't. What does that mean? It means I feel alone, Bobby. Like

I'm always... I was alone when I got stabbed.

Then Hanks. Now here.

I don't feel like you're ever with me, Bobby. That you understand what I'm

through. Or that you care to. And I...

This is too much for me to take on alone. I'm sick of it. You know what I'm

of? I'm sick of you isolating yourself only to declare you're alone.

Let me tell you something. Get out. You acted alone here. You pulled that

trigger alone.

And now my son is faced with losing his mother. Get the hell out.

You don't think I'm in this? Leave me alone.

Fine. Be alone.

He says if he's not given his freedom, he won't reveal where Nancy Connell is.

Helen, I believe him.

I can't let him walk.

Is it considered privileged who his friends are?

Look, somebody has her. Somebody made that tape.

I've heard him speak of this one friend he has, only friend I'm aware he has.

If it's an ongoing case, you have discretion to blow the privilege.

What's his name?

Rebecca.

She could be dying.

Walter Errol.

This is his address.

If that favor is to count for anything, Helen, please let it count for

Lindsay.

Personally, I think it is a mistake for you to represent her.

It wouldn't be me.

I mean your firm, Bobby. You're too close, let alone all the conflict. Name

another lawyer who would be better.

Something tells me that isn't what you came here to discuss.

No.

Remember when you came to see Lindsay and me about possibly entrapping

or getting him committed civilly?

Lindsay said something at the end of the meeting. I'm not sure you'd even

remember.

If he resists, shoot him.

You remember?

Actually... I forgot.

Have you told anybody what you forgot?

No.

Helen Gamble.

What?

Dead?

They showed up at his apartment.

Evidently, he pulled a gun on them.

The police opened fire. He was killed almost instantly.

You were only supposed to question him. Rebecca.

You just shoot him? He pulled a gun on them.

Oh, my God.

Look, the media is on to the connection with Nancy Connell. I will talk to the

parents about that, but...

Bottom line, your client is back to being the only one with information on

she might be. Like he's really going to help now. He had one friend in life. You

shot him.

I want to meet with him.

It won't do any good, Helen.

I have nothing to lose.

There they are.

The only reason Mr. Young wants his firm to represent the defendant is because

it curtails our investigation.

Not true. There are people we'd like to interview at Donald Young, and now we're

cut off because... You already interviewed Bobby Donald. There are

Look, we're not going to impede the investigation, but Lindsay Doe should be

able to have the lawyer she wants. Her life is on the line. The benefit of the

doubt has to cut in favor of the defendant here. Who else do you want to

to? Everybody.

They were with her all day long.

They may be able to inform on her state of mind.

Mr. Young, if I'm to allow you to represent her, you can't use that as a

You're to make available everybody in your firm.

We will.

Ms. Dole, you're sure you want your own people defending you here?

Yes, Your Honor.

Very well.

Do we have anything else?

We do. We'd like to enter our defense.

I would ask the court to deny self -defense since there's no basis. Why

you calm down and hear what we have to say first?

We're not going self -defense, Your Honor.

We're pleading not guilty, relying on battered woman syndrome.

What?

We so enter it for the record.

Get out of my face. I'm in your face, Rodney, and I'm going to stay in your

until you tell us where Nancy Connell is. Hey, you're the murderer.

I haven't... You tell us where she is. You eventually get released. Get this

bitch out of here.

I just issued this little press release, and I let it... Flip that you're a

suspected pedophile.

That'll crimp the quality of life, won't it, Rodney? How long do you think

you'll live in prison now?

You can't do this. You can't hang no molester jacket on me. I already did.

I put a clock on you.

You're a dead man, Rodney.

She can't do that, can she?

Just say I'm a pedophile?

What are you going to do, sue her for defamation of character?

Tell her where the girl is, Rodney, and I'll make the best deal I can.

How'd they know about Walter?

You told them, didn't you?

No, I didn't.

Well, let me tell you, Rebecca.

You just made me more valuable.

besides me walter was the only person who knew her whereabouts they need me

or that girl dies rodney you get me out of here rebecca you had him killed you

had him killed you make that deal i know you have him killed i'm saying nothing

rebecca you make that deal you hear me you make that deal

When I was up on murder, did I take it out on you?

You gotta know I'm here.

But what terrifies me, I think they do.

We're not going to lose.

The day you hired me, you said never promise a result to a client.

I'm promising this.

Jimmy and Beck are going to interview and prepare the doctors. They'll handle

the expert testimony. I'll run sort of a command center here.

I'll probably put Bobby on ballistics. I'll do forensics.

Okay.

I want you to try the case.

Okay.

What's up?

Helen, what's wrong?

Rodney Edsel was stabbed 40 minutes ago.

He's dead.

What happens now? I don't know.

I'm still getting the details. When I learn more, I'll let you know.

Okay.

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