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Hi. I'm looking for her.
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Lindsay.
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Jeannie? Hey.
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Hi.
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How are you? I'm fine.
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I see. I don't have to ask with new.
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Yeah, about five months.
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I knew her when she was a virgin. Funny.
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Listen, you got two seconds? I'm on a
major clock. Sure.
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You must be a witch. I have been meaning
to call you. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for
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inviting me to the wedding, by the way.
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Eloped. Right.
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Listen.
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William Hanks.
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I've been treating him.
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The William Hanks?
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Yes.
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Did you start killing people after you
began treating him, or...? That's cute.
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I don't think he did it.
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What do you mean you don't think he did
it? He confessed.
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I think he fabricated that confession.
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He made up that he killed nine people?
Yes.
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And fooled the police?
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It's complicated.
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Listen.
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As you probably know, the trial starts
in two days. He just fired his attorney.
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The judge, I'm told, is not likely to
grant him much of a continuance. He'll
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probably assign a public defender and...
Lindsay, would you consider doing it?
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Defending William Hinks?
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You've become this big star. I read
about you now.
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I don't do serial killers, Jeannie.
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Lindsay.
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I believe the man didn't do it. Yes, he
says he did.
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But as good as you are at what you do, I
am just as good at what I do. And I'm
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telling you, I've become more and more
convinced he's delusional.
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William Hanks is not the serial killer
who murdered those women.
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And right now, he needs a good lawyer.
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I don't think you should take it. My
first instinct was not to, but she says
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he's innocent.
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I don't know, Lindsay.
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How do you start such a monster of a
trial on two days' notice?
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The defense is fully developed.
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John Moore was the lawyer. He's good.
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Stephen Banks was the lawyer before
that, and he's excellent.
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What happened to them?
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Well, he fired them.
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According to Jeannie, when they
confronted Hanks about his possibly
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delusional... He fired them. The man
can't face the idea that maybe he's not
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killer. In which case, how do you defend
him? And why would you even want to?
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I'd be going up against Roland Hill for
one thing.
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How often does any lawyer get the chance
to go up against him?
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Not very often, but if I were going to
do it, I certainly wouldn't want a
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who insists he's guilty.
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You people supposedly defend underdogs.
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I've got one here.
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He's ill, and unless we help him, he's
going to destroy his life.
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I want to do it, Bobby.
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But I will need backup. I can do it. I'm
free. I was first.
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All right.
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Jimmy, you second chair.
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Thank you.
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Thanks.
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He's really a docile man.
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Just misunderstood.
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Do we need a guard in the room?
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It's your call.
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You'll lose privilege.
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I think we can take him.
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Okay.
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William, this is Lindsay Dole, the
lawyer I was telling you about, and this
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Jimmy Berluti, also with the same firm.
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My pleasure.
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I guess thank you is in order.
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Mr. Hanks.
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We continue the trial until next week,
which means you may get transferred back
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to Cedar Junction. They don't like
keeping maximum security prisoners in
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for too long.
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What we're going to do first is go over
the confessions and the evidence, and
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then we'll get back together and talk.
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What is there to talk about?
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Well, Dr. Reynolds tells me it's your
preference to plead insanity.
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You realize if we win on that, you don't
go free.
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Yes, I realize that.
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If we could possibly get a straight not
guilty.
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No.
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I did it, Myrtle.
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At least with insanity, I can perhaps be
sent to a place where they'll help me
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get better.
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Even if that's true, you won't be
getting out.
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The closest diagnosis I can make is that
he has delusions.
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Symptomatic of schizophrenia, probably
paranoid.
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Not only does he believe he committed
these crimes, the idea of others not
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believing it is for some reason
repugnant to him.
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But if he didn't do them, he sure gave
them a lot of details.
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Almost all the information he provided
in his confession was accessible.
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There's a whole Internet site set up on
this killer. A lot of these facts are
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available to the general public.
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Janie, tell me why you think he didn't
do it. For one thing, he's got a lot of
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holes in his story.
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I also don't get any sense of anger in
him. I don't see the necessary capacity
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for violence. He's a quiet little
accountant who never leaves his house.
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It's always the quiet ones.
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I also put him under hypnosis.
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There he told a very different story.
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Which was?
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Basically that he didn't do it. That he
wishes he did it.
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They found him near the scene of his
last victim.
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He said he has a police radio.
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According to a story under hypnosis, he
heard of the crime, he managed to go
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there, get into a neighboring cellar,
and let himself be discovered there.
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The police are pretty good about
sniffing out false confessions.
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He is extremely smart.
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Borderline genius.
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He also passed the polygraph, which he
would if he were delusional.
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Any chance he could have been faking
with the hypnosis?
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That's what I thought at first, but I
don't believe it now.
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Either way, Jeannie, if he convinced the
police with his confession, including
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an FBI profiler, he'll likely fool a
jury.
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He didn't necessarily fool the FBI
profiler.
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What?
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I was suspicious.
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There were certain facts he should have
had if he were the real killer.
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And he didn't. Such as?
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Uh, times of death he could only
approximate. A killer that precise, I'd
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thought he'd be clear on time.
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Positions of the bodies, also the
fingernails.
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What about the fingernails?
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Well, you saw that he pulled them off
all of his victims.
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And? He actually didn't.
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The police planted that disinformation
for the very reason to trip up any false
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confessions. Hinks has maintained that
he pulled the nails out of all of his
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victims, just as reported in the papers.
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If you've checked Discovery, you now
know that the nails of the fifth victim
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were never removed.
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That's something the real killer should
know.
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But you signed off on this being the
guy.
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Because he did have a lot of very
specific details.
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He was found near the scene of the last
one, and when they searched his
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apartment, they found voluminous
clippings, internet printouts, whatever,
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each and every previous killing.
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But he could have collected that stuff
to learn about the murders.
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Or he was the murderer, and he liked to
read about himself, which is pretty
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typical of serial killers.
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One more thing.
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The killing stopped as soon as William
Hinks was in custody.
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So you think he's it?
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I think he's probably the one.
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But maybe not.
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Maybe not.
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How do we defend him? If we plead not
guilty, he'll fire us. Which more than
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anything else is telling me that he
didn't do it. How do you figure?
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Well, a guilty man would want to get an
acquittal if he could, don't you think?
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A man obsessed with having the world
think he's guilty, on the other hand.
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Maybe we just stick with insanity.
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Who knows? Maybe we could win that way.
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But we don't believe he did it, Jimmy.
We can't argue he was insane at the time
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he did it if we know he didn't do it. We
don't know it, Lindsay.
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We don't know anything.
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Could you ever go to a judge and get an
order that he has to plead not guilty?
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I've never heard of that happening.
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Everybody wants it to be him, Lindsay,
because they're afraid.
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And he wants it to be him.
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But it's not...
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Him.
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I don't understand. Are you arguing
insanity or not?
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Mr. Hanks, this is extremely
complicated.
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You're just going to have to trust me.
Can you do that?
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No, I can't, Ms. Dole.
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My future is at stake. My life.
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I've known you less than a week.
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William, you trust me, don't you? Please
don't handle me. I'm not some anonymous
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little man to be handled.
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The plan is to keep you out of prison.
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But it may involve you having to hear
some things in court you don't want to
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hear. It could also mean you having to
testify.
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So be prepared for that.
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Testify?
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Your only chance at this point is to
trust her, William.
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Are we going with insanity or not, Ms.
Dole?
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Yes.
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We're going with insanity.
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All right.
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Insanity.
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I always chose to drop the weapon at the
scene, relieving myself of the worry of
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it ever being found in my possession.
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the gloves, I would either burn or
dispose of at the right opportunity.
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Why the fingernails?
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Souvenir, I suppose.
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A fingernail is easier to remove than
one might expect.
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Plus bloody as well.
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How many times have we got to watch it?
Until we've memorized every word. This
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confession is their whole case.
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I would have probably removed all ten
except for the time consumption.
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It takes patience to extract a
fingernail without damaging it.
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I like them in mint condition, of
course.
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And it's difficult not to rush when you
have a dissected carcass in the room.
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It can make you jumpy.
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We will introduce more of this tape
during the trial.
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But the footage that you just saw will
be introduced as evidence of the
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defendant's clarity during his
confession.
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His precision.
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His careful choice of words.
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He had just committed a murder and
dismemberment three hours before this
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interview.
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This was a man in control.
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A man who understood the nature and the
quality...
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of the horrific acts he had committed.
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The evidence will show that these crimes
were carried out with detailed
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precision, with thorough premeditation.
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The evidence will reveal cold -blooded
murder, executions, if you will,
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committed by a man who knew exactly what
he was doing.
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William Hanks is insane.
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All nine victims had dogs.
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Mr. Hanks met all of them in various
parks and streets while walking his dog.
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And you learned this how, detective?
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From his confession.
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Then he would telephone them, always
from a public phone booth, make a date
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plan to see them, be led into their
homes, and he'd kill them.
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From your experience, did these killings
appear to be acts of uncontrolled
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behavior? No.
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Why is that, sir? First of all, they
were meticulous.
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Other than the mutilations, which of
course were bloody, there was never any
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evidence. No fingerprints, no DNA. The
weapon was always carefully placed next
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to the torso.
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The first wound was always fatal.
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How could you tell that?
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There was never a sign of a struggle.
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Plus, the coroner's report would always
confirm this.
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Is it your testimony, sir, that a killer
acting outside of conscious control
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could never act in a meticulous manner?
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It's not the norm.
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Is it possible?
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It's possible, but... Thank you. You've
answered the question.
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Actually, I didn't, counsel. I'd like to
complete it.
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It was a yes or no question.
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But it was evidently not a yes or no
answer, Your Honor.
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The witness may complete his response.
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If the last victim hadn't hit that
silent alarm, if we hadn't found the
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defendant in that basement, he'd still
be out there.
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We called these murders the immaculate
dissections because the scenes were free
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of evidence.
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I mean clean.
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That takes planning.
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Skill.
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He didn't just know what he was doing.
He knew how to do it perfectly.
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Are you finished now?
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Yes. Thank you, Detective.
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Nothing further.
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Mr. Hill?
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Prosecution rests, Your Honor, saving
our psychiatric evidence for rebuttal.
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The witness may step down.
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The defense calls Dr. Gene Reynolds.
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All set?
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I think.
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Could you state your name and occupation
for the record?
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Jean Reynolds. I'm a criminal
psychologist.
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Could you briefly describe what you mean
by criminal psychologist?
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It's basically how it sounds. I've spent
10 years treating patients charged with
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violent crimes, as well as studying
behavioral patterns of repeat offenders,
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including the patterns of serial
killers.
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Dr. Reynolds, did you have opportunity
to treat my client, Mr. William Hanks? I
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did. Did you have opportunity to discuss
with my client the crimes which he is
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currently being charged with in this
trial?
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I did. Did you form any medical
conclusion as a result of this
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Yes. Could you please state that opinion
for the court?
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I do not believe Mr. Hanks killed those
women.
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He did not commit the crimes? My opinion
is Mr.
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Hanks is suffering from delusions,
secondary to schizophrenia.
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Basically, he thinks he killed those
women. He did not.
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I also placed Mr. Hinks under hypnosis,
where he told me he did not kill those
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women. Objection. Hearsay. Under
hypnosis, the reliability of... There is
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hypnosis exception to the hearsay rule.
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Your Honor, I would like a sidebar. Mr.
Hinks, please sit down. I seek to
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discharge counsel. She is soliciting
false testimony from this witness. Mr.
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Hinks, I ask you to sit down. Please
don't make me want to. She doesn't
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represent my interest, nor does she
represent the truth. I ask that she be
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removed. Mr. Hinks.
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Take your seat now.
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I am very confused here.
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You entered a plea of not guilty by
reason of insanity.
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Defense seeks to change that plea to a
straight not guilty.
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Mr. Hinks never killed those women at
all. This is a lie, Your Honor.
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Security, take Mr. Hinks into custody.
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I will see counsel in chambers now.
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What the hell's going on?
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He didn't commit the crime.
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Wait a second. It was your intent all
along to argue this?
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Yes.
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You committed a fraud on the court,
counsel. You filed an affirmative
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insanity.
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We had to keep it from our client. That
necessitated keeping it from the court.
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You kept your strategy from your client?
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Your Honor, he's delusional.
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He not only thinks he did it, he wants
others to think he did it, which
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precluded us going... Then you should
have had him declared incompetent to
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trial. He would have passed the
competency test easily, and we'd be
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in court. You do not commit a fraud on
the court or the district attorney.
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circumstances warranted us doing it,
Your Honor. No, they did not, Counsel.
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Yes, they did, Your Honor.
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With all due respect, William Hinks was
prepared to let himself be convicted for
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a crime he didn't commit.
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That's a bigger fraud, a fraud that
leaves the real killer still out there.
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how do we know that this isn't a trick?
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If the defendant has not agreed to the
change of plea, he has an automatic
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grounds for a new trial. This isn't a
trick. You have my word as an officer of
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the court. That doesn't solve it. You
cannot change the plea without the
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client's consent.
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The man has fired two previous attorneys
who wanted to prove his innocence
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because he doesn't want to be innocent.
We had to keep him in the dark.
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And that meant keeping the court in the
dark. And if he loses, his next lawyer
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will be in here arguing your
incompetency for filing... Look, this is
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thing here.
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We got a defendant whose sickness
prevents him from wanting to be found
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innocent. If we had pledged straight not
guilty, he would have fired us, like he
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fired the two guys before us. He would
have went out and eventually found the
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lawyer to tell his lie.
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And as I said, in our minds, that would
have been the biggest fraud.
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Who the hell do you think you are? I'm
your doctor, William. No, you're not. Do
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you get that? No, you are not. You are
all discharged. That can't happen.
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The judge has ordered us to stay on.
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William, you are ill.
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You think you committed those crimes.
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Under hypnosis, you admitted to me you
didn't. Maybe I was lying under
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You think about that?
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Maybe I was in denial.
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For God's sake, I killed nine women. I
can't be in denial.
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William, all I care about for this
discussion is keeping you out of prison.
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Why, so I can get mental treatment for
my disorder?
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Is that the secret plan?
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I'm testifying. We don't think that's...
I have a right to testify in this duel.
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If I'm competent to stand trial, I'm
competent to make this decision.
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I will be getting into that witness
chair.
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You cannot prevent that.
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I'm testifying.
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And while under hypnosis, what did he
say about the basement?
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That he'd heard about the crime on his
police radio, together with the
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that it was this same killer, and went
to the scene. Police were all over it,
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he broke into the basement two houses
away.
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I renew my hearsay objection.
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This is all being asserted as the truth.
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Mr. Hill, your objection is noted and
overruled.
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Did he say why he went into that
basement?
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No. I can only guess on some level he
wanted to be caught.
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Dr. Reynolds, aside from what he told
you under hypnosis, do you have any
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reason to believe he did not commit
these crimes?
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Well, as I said, I've studied the
patterns of serial killers.
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These people often have some displaced
anger.
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I didn't find Mr.
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Hinks to have a lot of anger, if any.
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He's seen these killings on the front
pages of our newspapers, and he somehow
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convinced himself he's the object of all
these headlines.
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Ever know a patient to fake being under
hypnosis?
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Yes. And if this patient suffered from a
delusion, doctor, wouldn't he suffer
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from the same delusion under hypnosis?
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Yes, usually the delusion would persist
under hypnosis.
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Didn't that make you suspicious?
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I was extremely suspicious. What is the
IQ of Mr.
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Hinks, if you know?
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It's high.
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And is it your testimony, then, that you
make no room for the possibility that
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he faked being under hypnosis to tell
his little tale of innocence?
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I not only considered it, Mr. Hill, I at
first suspected it.
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But when he kept insisting that his
lawyers not declare him to be innocent,
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he fired lawyers for endeavoring to
prove his innocence, I knew then he
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be faking.
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Well, she's simply wrong. What more can
I tell you? Dr. Gale, did you consider
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that this could be a false confession?
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It's one of the first things that we
look for, but in Mr. Hink's case, I
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determined his confession to be genuine.
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And on what did you base this opinion,
sir?
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I've been a clinical and forensic
psychologist for 33 years now. It's what
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And contrary to Dr. Reynolds' findings,
I consider Mr. Hinks to be consumed with
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rage. He lived alone with his mother
growing up. Though not physically
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she was emotionally punishing.
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The gruesome acts committed here, the
dissection of the bodies, these are acts
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of hatred.
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These murders are very much about
punishment.
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Dr. Gale, I'm going to play for you a
portion of his confession.
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If I could have figured out a way to
dismember them alive, I would have done
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But fear of getting caught was a
deterrent there.
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Still, I would have so loved to have
extended that look of pain in their
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That look of horror.
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It's a thing of beauty.
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The look on the face of a woman who
knows she's about to die.
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They write in the papers, why do they do
it? Why do these killers do it over and
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over and over?
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It's that look.
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You think you'll kill again?
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Oh, yes.
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I'll get out of this.
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You just watch.
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And I'll know the joy of that look
again.
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Even if Hinks were to somehow learn all
about those crimes, to the point of
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being able to fool law enforcement, and
that's an extremely unlikely if, you
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cannot fake a psychosis like that.
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Sitting at that table is the man who
mutilated those women.
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Well, you got your wish, William.
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After watching that last footage, I'm
sure everyone thinks you did it,
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the jury.
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Other than lying to me, you've tried an
excellent case.
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Do you truly appreciate where you'll be
going?
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In this life or the next?
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This one.
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I'm talking about the maximum security
hell where prisoners have special
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feelings for men who mutilate women.
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Well, it's my turn now, I suppose.
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I still would like to testify.
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I don't see the harm at this point.
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What else is left?
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Not much. We've got an expert on tire
tracks that could place his car maybe in
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some of the areas.
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It's nothing.
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They'll establish he has no alibi.
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Big deal. He says that himself.
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We're almost done.
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Are you winning or losing?
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Well, that depends on the goal, Eugene.
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I think he's looking at a conviction.
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But to the client, that seems to be a
victory.
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And why does he want to testify exactly?
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Because if my soul is to be offered any
chance at redemption, I must make a full
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confession. And God would like you to do
that under oath?
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God would like me to be open and
notorious with my evil, yes.
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What do you do with the gloves?
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I'm sorry?
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The killer always wore latex gloves to
avoid leaving prints or oils behind.
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On the night you were caught, the gloves
were never found.
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What did you do with them?
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As I told the police, I have no actual
memory of how I disposed of them.
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And again, as I told the police, if I
were to guess, I threw them in the fire
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and burnt them.
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00:25:54,530 --> 00:25:57,410
Actually, you didn't make that guess in
your confession. You made it much later,
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after it was reported that there was a
fire burning.
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The police found no residue of the
gloves in the fireplace. Did you know
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Is it possible nobody could find the
gloves because the real killer took
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I am the real killer, Ms. Dole.
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00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,660
How come you didn't know the second
victim had cancer?
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Something which was never released to
the media, coincidentally. Something you
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didn't know when you confessed.
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I didn't give them physicals, counsel.
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I just removed their heads.
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This one's head had a wig on it.
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You decapitated her but didn't know she
had a wig?
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Even the thickest of criminals knows not
to mess with a woman's hair.
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What a clever answer.
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Women have a thing about their nails,
too.
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You messed with them.
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00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:42,530
Actually, I never so much as scraped a
nail. I removed them in perfect
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condition.
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What happened to them?
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00:26:46,050 --> 00:26:49,530
I beg your pardon? You said in your
confession you took them as souvenirs.
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People keep souvenirs. What did you do
with them?
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That I won't tell.
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Come on, Mr. Hanks. You don't know where
they are because you never took them.
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I did.
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All of them? Every victim?
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Every victim.
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What about the fingernails on the last
victim, Mr. Hanks?
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They went the way of the gloves?
460
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I swallowed them.
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00:27:15,790 --> 00:27:19,110
What about the fifth victim, Mr. Hanks?
Angela Barton. You remember her?
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Pretty. Quick -tempered. Lost her head
easily.
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Did you remove her fingernails?
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One by one. Made difficult because she
bit them.
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You didn't take her nails, Mr. Hanks.
Not Angela Barton's.
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The police conceal information for the
purpose of flushing out phony
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confessions.
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In your confession, you talked about
removing Ms. Barton's nails before you
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incised the hands.
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The thing is, Mr. Hanks, when you go to
trial, the prosecution has to hand over
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all exculpatory evidence, even the stuff
the police concealed.
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And what I've now learned, the nails of
Angela Barton were never removed.
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It was reported that they were, so you
confessed to doing it.
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So I forgot.
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It was four victims ago. They blend.
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You forgot.
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You forgot a lot of things, Mr. Hinks.
You could never remember the colors of
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carpets, the layouts of rooms, the types
of drapes. I was killing people. You
479
00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:16,450
think I was going to take time out to
notice fabric?
480
00:28:16,890 --> 00:28:18,210
This killer noticed everything.
481
00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:21,510
He was meticulous. Please don't talk
about me as if I were not in the room.
482
00:28:22,210 --> 00:28:23,390
What about the tenth victim?
483
00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:28,790
There were nine.
484
00:28:29,270 --> 00:28:30,270
Nine reported.
485
00:28:31,170 --> 00:28:32,170
There was a tenth.
486
00:28:32,570 --> 00:28:35,710
Never confirmed to be one of the serial
victims because she died by a gunshot
487
00:28:35,710 --> 00:28:36,830
wound. Objection.
488
00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:40,950
Overruled. Her fingernails were also
pulled out, limbs and head amputated.
489
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:41,950
work, Mr. Hanks?
490
00:28:42,030 --> 00:28:44,730
Objection. She's deliberately... Ask the
counsel not interrupt or steer the
491
00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:46,930
witness. Mr. Haley will sit and remain
quiet.
492
00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:50,390
Your work, Mr. Hanks, or another killer
who likes fingernails?
493
00:28:53,930 --> 00:28:56,170
I didn't think the police knew about
that one.
494
00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:57,450
So it was your work.
495
00:29:02,730 --> 00:29:04,290
Your work, Mr. Hanks?
496
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:08,510
Yes.
497
00:29:09,170 --> 00:29:10,990
Funny. I made it up.
498
00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:15,010
You're a fraud.
499
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:17,110
You've never hurt anybody.
500
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:19,430
I killed those people.
501
00:29:19,710 --> 00:29:23,890
No, you didn't. I killed those people,
Ms. Dole. Your doctors discover you're
502
00:29:23,890 --> 00:29:27,590
delusional. You're just an anonymous
little man who... I killed those women
503
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:30,610
quickly and surely as I would kill you.
504
00:29:30,830 --> 00:29:31,910
Mr. Hanks! I did it!
505
00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:34,740
I'm famous.
506
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:40,920
You see my pictures in the papers
because I did it. Mr. Hinks, you would
507
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,920
your voice. This is mine.
508
00:29:44,380 --> 00:29:47,720
I killed them and you can't take it
away.
509
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,420
Okay, Mr. Hanks.
510
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,040
You win.
511
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:10,760
You
512
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:28,740
win.
513
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:31,940
Forgive me, Mr. Hanks. I was just...
514
00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:36,670
Trying to decide whose performance was
better here, yours or Ms. Dole's.
515
00:30:37,050 --> 00:30:38,270
Objection. Sustained.
516
00:30:41,410 --> 00:30:43,490
I have nothing for Mr. Hinks.
517
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,280
You haven't heard him close?
518
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,320
No physical evidence.
519
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,040
No witnesses.
520
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:20,020
Just a confession from a paranoid
schizophrenic man suffering from
521
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,640
A man desperate to believe he's
something he's not.
522
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,560
You heard a treating psychologist.
523
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,000
You saw him in that witness chair.
524
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:30,960
He's ill.
525
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,620
But he is not the sick man who committed
those crimes.
526
00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:40,120
For this so -called confession, he was
armed only with information that had
527
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,120
published somewhere.
528
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,520
Stuff that he cut out, downloaded,
printed, plastered all over his walls.
529
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,360
The things that were public information,
like the fingernail still being on the
530
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,360
fifth victim, oh, he somehow forgot
that.
531
00:31:53,100 --> 00:32:00,040
Mr. Hanks, as part of his illness, is
desperate to believe he's the one.
532
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,880
The prosecution, as a result of public
pressure, is desperate to believe he's
533
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,840
the one. I think on some level, we all
are.
534
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,520
Because we want this sick person,
whoever he is, off the street.
535
00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:20,660
But if we really, truly want this killer
captured, we better send a message
536
00:32:20,660 --> 00:32:22,900
to the police that they better keep
looking.
537
00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:27,460
Because it's not William Hinks.
538
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:55,360
I have never been on a case where the
defense pled insanity only to then, in
539
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,620
middle of trial, suddenly declare that
he didn't do it at all and then to
540
00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:03,360
that with the defendant taking the stand
to say that he did.
541
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,280
Sounds crazy, but it isn't crazy, ladies
and gentlemen.
542
00:33:08,540 --> 00:33:12,480
It's brilliant and very carefully
orchestrated.
543
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:17,260
We're dealing with a sick, dark, but
brilliant chess player.
544
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,020
A man who met eight women, eight
different women, got admitted to their
545
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:28,760
murdered them, leaving virtually no
evidence, not a hair, not a bead of
546
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:33,920
nothing. Then he met his ninth victim,
and though she let him in like the eight
547
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,400
others had before her, she was also able
to set off a silent alarm.
548
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:46,580
Mr. Hinks still was able to commit the
murder and do his immaculate cleanup.
549
00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:52,080
But when it came time to leave, the
police were coming, and this time he had
550
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,900
take flight to seek cover in a
neighboring basement.
551
00:33:56,660 --> 00:33:58,160
And this time he was caught.
552
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,620
He knew the police would search his
apartment and find those clippings and
553
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:08,600
website printouts. He knew that he could
offer no alibis for those eight other
554
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,780
killings. He knew that the police would
know they had the right guy.
555
00:34:13,770 --> 00:34:17,409
Well, to get out of this now, Mr. Hinks
would have to be at his most ingenious,
556
00:34:17,489 --> 00:34:18,489
wouldn't he?
557
00:34:19,310 --> 00:34:21,150
So, he gives a confession.
558
00:34:22,050 --> 00:34:26,330
Careful to provide most details, but
also careful to leave out a few.
559
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:32,969
And then, while under the pretense of
being hypnotized while being treated, he
560
00:34:32,969 --> 00:34:33,969
tells a different story.
561
00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:35,190
A story of innocence.
562
00:34:36,670 --> 00:34:39,190
And he hopes that this therapist will
become his pawn.
563
00:34:40,630 --> 00:34:45,570
Well... Dr. Reynolds is no pushover.
She's a gifted psychologist, one likely
564
00:34:45,570 --> 00:34:47,090
capable of detecting a sham.
565
00:34:47,310 --> 00:34:51,130
And though he had her mostly convinced,
he knew that she remained doubtful.
566
00:34:51,570 --> 00:34:56,610
According to her own testimony, it was
only after Mr. Hinks fired his previous
567
00:34:56,610 --> 00:35:01,430
attorneys that she finally decided he
was not faking his delusions.
568
00:35:03,250 --> 00:35:04,250
He got her.
569
00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:06,250
And he needed her.
570
00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:12,320
You see, to have any chance of an
acquittal, Mr. Hinks... needed the
571
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,540
to sell you.
572
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,900
And in order to keep her convinced
enough, he had to keep insisting that he
573
00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:23,720
it, and he had to keep insisting that
his lawyers not say otherwise, all the
574
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:28,740
while needing a lawyer who would say
otherwise over his famed protests.
575
00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:34,460
Enter Ms. Dole, pawn number two.
576
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,920
Mr. Hinks.
577
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,700
needed an attorney who would find a way
to plead not guilty in spite of being
578
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:43,700
told not to.
579
00:35:44,740 --> 00:35:45,800
Sound complicated?
580
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:47,100
You bet.
581
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,280
Hard to pull off?
582
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,860
Absolutely far -fetched? Maybe.
583
00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:54,760
But let's consider what he's pulled off
before.
584
00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:01,940
Not many people can commit eight murders
without leaving a single clue.
585
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,160
He did.
586
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,640
Then he met his ninth, and we got him.
587
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:09,800
We finally got him.
588
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:15,720
And in order to get off, he would have
to come up with something masterful.
589
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:19,420
He did.
590
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:23,820
You want to give him an Academy Award
for his wrenching performance on the
591
00:36:23,820 --> 00:36:27,220
witness stand? You do it. But don't you
dare give him an acquittal.
592
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:29,260
Don't you dare.
593
00:36:30,220 --> 00:36:33,560
You don't want him out there looking for
number 10.
594
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,960
How long?
595
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,120
I expect this one to take a while.
596
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:56,220
It's close.
597
00:36:58,340 --> 00:37:00,200
His clothing was good, wasn't it?
598
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Extremely.
599
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:09,280
He kind of sold me.
600
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,260
Did you know I planned to yank the
insanity plea and go straight not
601
00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:46,640
I had a pretty good idea.
602
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,660
When you wouldn't tell me the strategy
and you said I might be testifying, I
603
00:37:52,660 --> 00:37:53,760
figured that's what you were planning.
604
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:56,720
What if I hadn't?
605
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,120
Wasn't that sort of a risk?
606
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,520
Considering my plight, Miss Dole, I was
in a position to take risks.
607
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:06,960
Besides, I was poised to suffer a mental
breakdown and at least secure a
608
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,840
mistrial if you stuck with insanity.
609
00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:13,400
Why didn't you just let me talk you into
going not guilty over your objection?
610
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,060
Because Dr. Reynolds was measuring me
every single step along the way.
611
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,960
I had to cling to my delusions. Without
her completely sold, I didn't stand a
612
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,720
chance. And what perhaps she didn't tell
you, she wasn't completely sure.
613
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,420
She thought I was innocent.
614
00:38:29,820 --> 00:38:33,760
But her medical conclusions were far
more precarious than she ever let on. I
615
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,820
couldn't risk losing her.
616
00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:37,820
Okay. Why not feign improvement?
617
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,800
Take medication, then you could have
just testified and said, I thought I
618
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,560
them, but now I know I didn't.
619
00:38:44,180 --> 00:38:45,460
Far too self -serving.
620
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,300
When you murder nine people, the jury is
not looking for a reason to let you go.
621
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:53,180
Things have to be perfect.
622
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,940
If you get off, you gonna kill again?
623
00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:05,560
Mr. Berluti.
624
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,180
If I tell you I'm about to kill again,
you don't have to honor privilege.
625
00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:14,420
And you can repeat everything I'm
telling you now.
626
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,840
But nice try.
627
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,480
So things went just as you planned in
there?
628
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:24,780
I certainly didn't plan for Mr. Hill to
be so good in his closing.
629
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,500
If he convinced you, I hardly feel
overconfident.
630
00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:34,860
What about the latex gloves on the last
victim?
631
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,360
Burned in the fireplace.
632
00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:39,560
The police are shoddy.
633
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:45,460
Verdict.
634
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:04,300
All right.
635
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:06,880
Mr. Hinks, will you please rise?
636
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,780
Madam Foreperson, the jury has a final
verdict.
637
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,000
We do, Your Honor.
638
00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:13,420
What say you?
639
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,120
Commonwealth v.
640
00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:21,260
William Hinks counts one through nine of
murder in the first degree. We find the
641
00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:24,540
defendant, William Hinks, not guilty.
642
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,180
All right.
643
00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:32,020
Members of the jury, your service here
is completed.
644
00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:37,660
Mr. Hinks, you have been declared not
guilty. You are free to go.
645
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:40,020
This court is adjourned.
646
00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:51,220
I might go out the back way.
647
00:40:51,460 --> 00:40:52,720
Yes. Thank you.
648
00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:54,660
Thank you both.
649
00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:57,460
Unbelievable.
650
00:40:59,180 --> 00:41:01,460
Thank you, Dr. Reynolds.
651
00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:04,000
I suppose your heart was in the right
place.
652
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,300
Yeah. Listen, William, this gets you
out.
653
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,880
But you still need treatment.
654
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:11,540
Will you let me help you?
655
00:41:12,820 --> 00:41:14,860
Let me think about that, all right?
656
00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:17,140
You really need to get help.
657
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,920
I'll call you.
658
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,280
You did it, Lindsay.
659
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:30,940
Incredible.
660
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,920
Were you really sure he was innocent?
661
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:34,500
Was I sure?
662
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,680
No.
663
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,100
I'll probably never be 100 % sure.
664
00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:40,780
He knew that.
665
00:41:42,140 --> 00:41:43,140
Sorry?
666
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,600
Nothing.
667
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,180
Well, he's not out of the woods unless
he gets treatment.
668
00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:51,500
Let him go, Jeannie.
669
00:41:52,340 --> 00:41:53,520
He's ill, Lindsay.
670
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:56,220
Everything doesn't just end with a
trial, sorry to say.
671
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Especially this one.
672
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:00,240
Let him go.
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