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I'll ask you one more time to reconsider.

I've given it a lot of thought, Mark. I know this. And both you and Scott vowed

from the onset it would be my decision. Which it still is.

But as DA, Scott's the one who takes the heat. I don't mind taking the heat.

Can I give this speech one more time just to be sure that I have made the

If the point gets any more etched in my brow, I'm going to need to take time off

to get Botox. But, okay, go ahead.

Aside from the First Amendment issues.

To be prosecuting a news magazine for murder, you'll never win.

And even if you should, the appeals would go on through the SJC all the way

the Supreme Court.

Great, I'll get to meet Rehnquist. Always had a crush.

Helen, it's a taxpayer's money.

Can we really justify spending $10 million to secure a conviction that's

to be struck down?

My speech?

Sure. As a result of the actions of that television producer, A Woman is Dead,

it was a criminal act.

I only wish I could make a case against the whole network.

That kind of comment... It is still my decision, right?

Yes. In part, because you'd crucify Scott Colby in the press if he reneged.

Well, whichever way we get there, wish me luck.

There is speculation that if the executive producer of Timeline is found

a civil lawsuit against ABC will follow.

Many think the district attorney is prosecuting the producer first, hoping

accessory conviction against him will bolster chances of getting a murder

conviction against the doctor.

You're actually doing this?

Prosecuting a news producer for murder?

Accessory. Accessory to murder?

Which he's guilty of if he encouraged it.

Well, this will certainly give you your 15 minutes.

You think that's what this is about?

No.

What is this about?

But if I were to tell, what would I think you were doing?

I'm taking some ballroom dancing lessons.

My son has these dances, so I want to teach him.

First, I have to learn how.

I can ballroom dance.

I could teach your son if you want.

I really wouldn't mind.

Are you any good?

Did you announce yourselves as police officers as you entered?

Yes, we did. We yelled, police, freeze.

The next thing, he was shooting.

The defendant?

Yes. I was wounded in both the shoulder and the leg.

The warrant was for the house next door?

Yes. You made a mistake.

Yes, but that doesn't mean... Thank you, detective. You answered the question.

Now, when you charged into the wrong house, almost instantly, my client began

shooting. Yes.

Immediately. Yes.

And your men returned fire.

Yes. Wounding my client. Yes. He was shot three times.

I believe so. You basically charged into the home of an innocent person.

Shot him three times. Objection. Sustained.

That's all I have.

We'll take a break until one o 'clock.

Mr. Donald, I'll see you in chambers a minute.

For the record, I won't allow any more arguments in question form.

All lawyers love to do it. You seem particularly fond of it. And I'm putting

on notice right now that I'll be cutting you off in open court.

I don't think I've been any more argumentative than the district

Well, I think you have.

But I'll be shutting her down, too, if we come to that.

Is that all?

No.

Could you sit?

This is a little awkward.

I take pride in adhering strictly to ethical obligations.

And as great as this is... What's going on? It has absolutely no bearing on this

case.

Well, I suppose the easiest way for me to say it is... for me to just say it.

About six weeks ago...

I had what I would consider to be an extremely erotic dream.

And you were in it.

I won't go into the details, except to say that you were quite well

The problem is that I shared this with Judge Hiller. She and I are friends, as

you know. You told Judge Hiller? Oh, she's more of a sport than you think.

We had a couple of fool girl chuckles.

Anyway, as you also know, if there's anyone more insistent on ethical

obligations than I, it's Zoe.

She came here yesterday, and she said, given that I had a

sexual fantasy involving one of the lawyers on a case over which I'm

I should perhaps recuse myself.

I thought the idea ridiculous, and I said so.

But, as he pointed out, a judge has the duty to

avoid even the appearance of impropriety.

Now, it has no influence on this case, but I felt that perhaps I should

bring it to your attention, and if you feel that I should recuse myself,

I will.

But I...

If it has no bearing... It doesn't.

And I think the trial's going well for my client.

Well, it would definitely be unethical for me to comment on that.

If you don't think it'll interfere with your ability to be impartial, then,

um... I'm... I'm okay.

Fine.

That's all that... Bobby,

this, of course, is extremely sensitive.

Not to say embarrassing.

If you wouldn't mind not telling anybody.

sure this is what you wish to do.

Yes.

And God is sure.

Is there anything else you'd like to say, Mary?

The drug will take effect almost immediately.

I have the tape running, so... I've said my goodbyes.

I just want to die now.

Remember, there'll be two different injections.

The second one will put you out.

There is one last thing.

And that was it.

Mary Burlington closed her eyes and went from living to dead.

How long have you been a producer on Timeline?

Almost three years. And in your capacity as producer, did you have the occasion

to meet Dr. Ryan, the physician featured in the tape?

Yes. He came in for a meeting in November of 1998.

Who was present in the meeting?

Myself, Dr.

Ryan, and John Matlin, our executive producer.

Could you describe the context of the meeting?

Well, Dr.

Ryan had just recently been acquitted for the third time for assisted suicide.

He was basically proposing that he be the subject of an in -depth interview, a

profile sort of thing.

How did Mr. Matlin respond?

It was negative.

He said the physician -assisted suicide thing was a tired issue, and unless

there was a new spin, he wouldn't be interested.

He also felt that Dr. Ryan was just trying to promote his quest.

So he said no. Yes.

But then, as Dr. Ryan was about to leave, John said, you don't have any of

assisted suicides on videotape, do you?

What did Dr.

Ryan say to that? He said no, but I could see his wheels spinning.

Objection. Suspended.

Jury will disregard that statement.

Miss Kramer, could you describe the tone of Mr. Matlin's question to Dr.

Ryan as to whether there was a tape?

In my opinion, it was the equivalent of a suggestion.

He was basically saying, if you have it on videotape, we'd be interested.

Objection. Overruled. Do you think the defendant encouraged the tape?

Objection. Leading.

Overruled. I'll ask again.

Is it your impression that Mr. Matlin encouraged Dr.

Ryan to get it on tape?

Yes, it was.

He didn't say go out and get one on tape, did he?

No, not in those words.

And when he was referring to videotape, he was talking in the past tense, is

that right?

Yes, but as I said, I felt an implied suggestion that this doctor go out and

something in the future.

And that bothered you?

Yes. And after you heard what you believed to be Mr. Matlin encouraging

Ryan to go out and tape an assisted suicide, what did you do?

What did I do?

Yes. Did you protest to Mr. Matlin? Did you say anything to anybody at that

time?

No. Well, I guess it didn't bother you that much, eh, Miss Kramer?

Objection. Overruled. After hearing what you believe to be somebody encouraging

a suicide, you just sit tight.

Is that the honorable thing to do?

Objection. All right, Mr.

Robertson. Isn't it true that it was only after the negative public response

this broadcast that you seized the opportunity to go after my client? That

not true.

You like John Matlin, Miss Kramer? We've had our differences.

Never tried to get him fired?

Objection. Overruled.

Did you ever try to take his job, Miss Kramer?

Our differences were professional. It has nothing to do with me sitting in

chair today.

No, of course not, because you are an honorable person.

Objection. This is just political, isn't it? Or should I direct that question to

the district attorney?

Objection! Sustained. And after Dr.

Ryan came back with the tape, having committed this terrible crime that you

think your boss motivated, did you resign?

No.

You still with the company?

Yes. Gee whiz.

Nothing further.

You're calling the doctor?

I have to. The case will be tough enough without relying on a hostile witness,

don't you think? I have to establish that a crime was committed, otherwise I

can't make accessory.

But why should the doctor help? He goes on trial himself next month. He doesn't

care if he gets convicted. He's a martyr.

Helen, he's a hostile witness who could destroy your whole case.

Let him try.

What is with you?

I heard that.

Your Honor.

Oh, great.

Six years I've been riding this elevator. I don't think I've ever been

with you.

Make one lousy confession.

Well, it's... I do apologize.

It wasn't something you could avoid.

Well, isn't that a vain take on it?

I didn't mean it that way. I meant it was a dream, not something you did

consciously. It's just, it was through.

Visit.

I'll see you in there. Yes.

That's it.

You should also listen to the music.

I'm listening.

It should be noticeable that you're listening.

What's going on?

Dancing lessons.

He wants to learn, and I figure it's a good way to get some extra time with

That's it, Kendall.

Excellent.

He did not tell me to go videotape a death.

Why'd you do it? Because I chose to.

So it's just a big coincidence. The defendant says to you, have you got one

tape, and suddenly you choose to turn on a video recorder.

Objection. This is her witness. A hostile witness. Who, nevertheless,

allowed to finish his answers.

I agree.

You were seeking news coverage, weren't you, Doctor? I don't deny that.

But it certainly played no part in my decision to participate in euthanizing

Mrs. Burlington. And I take extreme offense at your suggestion.

The issue of euthanasia, you feel strongly about this, don't you, doctor?

Yes, I do. You're passionate about this.

Well? Do you do anything else? Do you treat patients as a physician other than

to help them die?

You're passionate about this.

Yes. In fact, a segment on Timeline would be huge exposure for you in this

issue, wouldn't it? That's not why... The question is, would a segment on

Timeline be great exposure?

Yes or no?

Of course.

Do you think your passion for this cause could have possibly made you slightly

more inclined to put Mrs. Burlington to death? No. It was her decision, Miss

Gamble. The tape clearly reflected that.

Don't you think patients are influenced by their doctors?

I will tell you, in this situation, like every situation, the patient was of

sound mind and free will when she decided that she wanted to end her

She was of sound mind?

Yes. You think suffering people are of sound mind?

Ever known pain to compromise a person's judgment, doctor? That wasn't going on

here. I heard her say on that tape that God was sure it was time for her to die.

What did she mean by that?

Well... Did you even bother to ask what she meant?

Objection. Overruled. Or did you have to run out and kill somebody else that

day? Objection. Miss Gamble. How long have you been treating Mrs. Burlington?

Not too long. More than a year? No. A month?

A few weeks. A few weeks. Can you say you truly knew this woman? I knew and

trusted her decision.

Doctor, don't you think you should at least know the person before you inject

them with the fatal drug?

Objection. Miss Gamble. If there was a cure for Mrs. Burlington, do you think

she would have wanted to die?

Probably not.

But there was no cure. How many doctors did you talk to before concluding there

was no cure?

ALS is known. Did you call Johns Hopkins, UCLA, the Mayo Clinic? Did you

research as to whether a cure or any experimental drugs would be viable

week, a month, two months? It's my understanding there is no such cure or

It's your understanding, doctor.

Don't you think you should make absolutely sure before you kill her?

Objection. This man is not on trial. She wasn't even in the...

Helen.

Helen.

I'm not here to beat you up. Whatever your feelings for the doctor, this case

about whether that news show aided and abetted a murder.

It's Matlin's state of mind that counts. Convincing the jury that Dr. Jekyll in

there is evil won't buy conviction against Matlin in this trial. And for

be losing sight of that... This is about your grandmother.

About you hating doctors for pulling the plug on her. I agreed to pull that

plug. You didn't do anything.

You were 17.

This isn't something you should be playing out in that room.

The defendant encouraged a murder.

Then keep it about the defendant.

It's irrelevant.

That's for a jury to decide. It is not, Jean. Relevancy is a bench call. The

jury... And how about letting the bench make the call?

I'll take it to Benny.

If I think it's... Your Honor, whether or not he had a valid gun permit, it

doesn't make any difference.

Then why are you so concerned?

Because she's putting it in to make my client look like a bad guy. I'm putting

it in to show your guy has a thing about guns. Oh, please. I'll admit it to

Benny. If I think it's prejudicial, I'll strike it later. It's not a bill with

much of a ding, Counsel.

Let's go back in.

Irrelevant? You know it.

I think I am going to recuse myself.

I keep thinking about you.

Do you know what it probably is? It's that stupid cologne you're wearing.

My husband wore that.

We even buried him in it.

Maybe I'm having a midlife crisis.

Anyway.

Well, it'll probably be a mistrial. Yes, I know.

I'm sorry.

Well, what reason will you give a mistrial at this point? It'll be on the

record.

Maybe I'll say I've taken L.

Ah, what a mess.

You know what Zoe said to me?

She said, Roberta, your heart would never go anywhere uninvited. And then

said, are you sure he doesn't have a little crush on you?

That's not the case, is it?

Well... I don't mean to embarrass you.

What? Is it so totally nuts, you and an older woman? No, no.

You can be honest. I'm recusing myself.

Have you ever fantasized about an older woman?

Jacqueline Buffett.

Jacqueline Buffett.

And not me.

Well, I mean, you're the judge.

Even if I would never with the judge.

It's probably the rope.

Yeah.

Well, I'm sorry for being human.

We'll be getting you another judge.

Okay.

The idea that I solicited that tape is beneath comment.

And what exactly did you say to Dr.

Ryan? I asked him if he had a videotape.

Past tense. I never directly nor indirectly suggested that he go out and

one. Why'd you ask if he had a tape?

I won't deny it might have made a difference. A man has a videotape of an

euthanasia. That's news. So it would be fair for Dr.

Ryan to leave your office with the idea that a videotape, that's news.

Ms. Gamble, a convenience store is held up. It doesn't get airtime.

But caught on camera, it leads.

We're a voyeuristic nation.

Are you going to hold me responsible for that?

See, the difference is the prospect of news coverage doesn't encourage 7

robbers. They're after money.

Here you offered Dr. Ryan exactly what he was after. That is absolutely false.

You knew this man was on a mission to legalize euthanasia and you sent him out

of your office with the idea that some videotape would make a difference.

I did not say go out and kill somebody.

How long before Dr.

Ryan returned with the tape of Mrs.

Burlington's death?

I think about ten days.

Ten days.

Let me ask you.

On average, how long does it take to produce a typical segment for broadcast?

And by that I mean research, writing, shooting, editing.

Pre - and post -production take about two months.

Research varies. It can take about a year.

When Dr.

Ryan returned to your office with the tape, how much time elapsed before it

aired? This one was shorter.

How much time between the time you got the tape and the time it aired?

About a week.

Do you recall when it aired?

November. November.

Did you tell him you needed it for sweeps?

Go ahead.

Try to avoid my feet if you can.

Watch this, Eugene.

See what a quick study he is.

Look, Dad.

I'm doing it.

I can see.

Um, not so close.

Like this.

Okay, Eugene.

Why don't you dance with him so I can see his posture?

I don't want to dance with him. It will just be for a second.

Kendall, you lead.

You're terrible.

Miss Ward?

Please call your next witness.

Your Honor, ex -party sidebar.

Quickly. What's going on?

I thought about it all night.

And I really do feel I can stay impartial. In fact, I know I can.

And if you don't mind, I'd like to spare myself the embarrassment.

If you have even the slightest suspicion that my work is being affected by my

hormones, bring a motion for recusal. I will take myself off.

Is that fair?

I actually live right across the street.

From the defendant?

Yes. And did you ever see the defendant and John Marks together?

Oh, sure. They were neighbors. Friendly?

Yes? Mr. Barton, did you have knowledge that Mr. Marks was in the drug

trafficking business?

Assuming facts, not in evidence.

Sustained. The jury will disregard the question. Do you have reason to know

Mr. Marks does for a living?

He deals drugs.

How do you know this?

He told me. And what else did he tell you?

Well, I asked him if he was ever afraid of getting busted, and he said,

sometimes.

But he could always hide his stuff at Bob's house, at the police, wherever he

is. Objection. Hearsay. Move the strike deck. Declaration against interest, Your

Honor. Exception to the hearsay rule.

What declaration?

Mr. Marks said this in a context while admitting he was a drug dealer. Now,

that's either an admission or it's a declaration against interest. In either

case... That statement is so prejudicial and unreliable. I'm overruling the

objection. Your Honor. The objection is overruled. Sit down, counsel.

My mother wanted to die.

She was in pain. She didn't want to be a burden.

She made the decision to die.

Mr. Burlington, you've heard the prosecution's suggestion that your

have died as a result of this television broadcast.

It's not only ridiculous, it's offensive.

It trivializes her and her decision, and I find this whole trial to be

repugnant. By your own statement, you said your mother went back and forth on

this, didn't she?

Yes, but she was clear in the end. She was clear in the end, but do you make

room for the possibility that after she talked to Dr.

Ryan that first meeting, she became more clear?

I don't know.

Well, did she have any fear of being euthanized?

She had concerns of pain.

Her biggest was, what if it doesn't work?

And she ends up comatose. So it would be fair to say that he had some influence.

Your Honor, I have to object.

Dr. Ryan is not on trial here. I'm establishing that Mr.

Matlin's influence on the doctor resulted in the doctor influencing the

All right.

She was more certain of what she wanted to do after talking to Dr. Ryan, yes or

no?

Yes. Thank you.

What do you mean she hit on you? Well, she... While she's the judge on your

case? She was going to recuse herself, and then she thought it would have no

effect. Bobby.

I don't think it'll have any effect. What exactly did she say?

Listen, it's not important. I just want to know exactly what she said.

It started with that she had some kind of erotic dream about me, and then, I

don't know, she couldn't stop thinking about me. And she's still on this case?

Lindsay. Does this just happen?

Women come up to you and tell you that you're in their dreams?

Can you guys keep it down?

She didn't have to tell me. I mean, she wasn't admitting any bias.

Bobby, how can this woman be the judge on your case? Lindsay, I keep talking to

you as a colleague, and you keep coming back at me as a girlfriend.

Well, I've got problems as a colleague and a girlfriend. Just forget about her,

all right? Just forget about her. Shut up! I'm trying to do a closing. Go

somewhere else.

What's wrong with you?

Is she okay?

No.

Am I from another planet?

The news, the press, they say I'm nuts to prosecute.

My own boss.

What am I missing?

Wasn't this the equivalent of a hired hit? A hired hit?

Helen, you don't really believe the defendant wanted somebody to get killed,

you? would do, Lindsay.

He was reckless.

He knew this wacko doctor would do anything to get on the news. So maybe

were stupid or negligent.

But an accessory to murder?

These people don't know their influence, Lindsay. Not the news producers, not

the doctors. They don't realize.

Maybe if some DA had the guts to go after one of these doctors, then

Maybe what?

The doctor who upped your grandmother's morphine drip would have thought twice?

Old people, they're impressionable.

Especially when they're sick.

And when they hurt.

And when a doctor says, hey, it's okay to die.

Helen, at some point you have to let go of this.

She looks at me.

She said, it's right.

It's time to leave. But there was something in her eyes.

Something said, tell me otherwise.

You were a teenager.

Your mother, your father, your aunts and uncles, there were a lot of people she

talked to. But I'm the only one who really knew.

She didn't want to be a burden.

She thought it was her duty to die. And these doctors, they make it okay to die.

And then...

Old people somehow begin to think it's their duty.

Whether that's true or not, that isn't the case.

You've got to go in there tomorrow and do a closing on this case. It isn't

your grandmother and it isn't about that doctor.

Helen, you're prosecuting a news magazine for murder.

Do you get that?

I never offered to hide his drugs for him. That's just a flat -out

Mr. Harbin, the question on everybody's minds.

Why did you start shooting that night?

First, I didn't know they were police officers. I just heard noise.

As soon as the door came open, I saw a gun.

I grabbed for mine.

And opened fire.

Living next door to Mark's, I did know how he made his money.

I knew the kind of people that came calling over there. It made me nervous.

I have a family, and when I heard yelling and doors being kicked down, I

thought, oh, God, what's happening? And as I said, as soon as I saw the gun, I

just... Better them than me.

You have a permit for the gun?

No. I would never be able to get one to carry.

And in that neighborhood, I wanted to carry. And when you saw the police

uniforms, what, you thought they looked fake?

I started shooting before I saw uniforms.

I was afraid. You ever have occasion to shoot somebody else before, Mr. Harbin?

Objection. Did you shoot at a man walking his dog?

Objection. Pattern. Prior badass.

Pattern. Counsel.

Approach.

Two years ago, he shot at a man he claimed he thought was a prowler. Oh,

on. That's completely inadmissible. This man shoots first, claims fear later.

I'm not going to allow it, counsel.

Your Honor, I'd ask that you declare a mistrial. There's no point in that.

You're not going to get that.

The jury heard that. And I will give them an instruction, but we're not

any mistrial.

It's a legitimate cause for a mistrial, Your Honor.

I've made my ruling.

Timothy McVeigh made the covers of Time and Newsweek seven times.

Jeffrey Dahmer, that serial killer that ate his victims, he made it too. Did

they commit their crimes for fame?

Well, I seriously doubt it.

But there are a lot of sick people out there looking to be noticed, hoping to

matter.

Well, what about that guy that says to himself, Timothy McVeigh got famous, so

can I.

Should we hold Time and Newsweek liable for his crimes?

The gang member in L .A., he's sure to be in front of the television at 11 o

'clock to see if he made the news.

Everybody wants their 15 minutes being on TV.

It's almost as good as a reward.

Should we start holding the news companies liable for the gang member's

I suppose we could.

The whole point with terrorism is to make a statement. Without the news,

no effect.

Surely, if we outlawed the coverage of terrorist attacks, terrorism would go

down. Well, why don't we then? And why stop there?

We could kill all the stories that lead to copycat crimes.

The Pentagon, I'm sure that they would jump at the chance to squash certain

reports in the interest of national security.

You want to go down that road?

Because you can.

We can start legislating the news business like any other.

Decide what you should hear and what you shouldn't.

You want to go down that road?

Clearly, the prosecution does.

If a network news executive said to a terrorist, get one on tape and we'll

with it, we would absolutely prosecute the executive. Trust me.

Dr. Ryan left John Matlin's office with a message.

Videotape one, you get your profile.

That's encouragement.

By their own admission, they knew this doctor was on a quest to promote

euthanasia. This doctor's a zealot, willing to be arrested, willing to spend

entire life in jail, anything for the cause.

And what do they do?

They hold out a carrot for him to commit the crime again.

Incentive equals encouragement.

Would Dr. Ryan have killed her anyway?

Maybe. Maybe not.

It doesn't matter. As the judge will instruct you, we don't have to prove,

for the defendant's actions, there would have been no crime.

All we have to show is that it was possible that this encouragement could

been effective.

And of course it could have. And this doctor certainly got what he wanted,

didn't he?

Mary Burlington is dead and Dr.

Ryan got on for sweets.

Freedom of the press is not absolute, ladies and gentlemen.

And freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to facilitate a murder.

And believe it or not, winning your time slot doesn't get you off.

We all sit back and say, look what journalism has become.

You have two choices.

Go back to that room.

And continue to sit back.

Or don't.

Aggravated assault?

There's no way we can't jump at it. Those were police officers.

But I panicked. Robert, you shot a detective.

Add to that the statement that you hide the guy's stash. I never.

But it's in evidence.

And the jury heard about you shooting the dog walker.

Listen.

doing this a long time.

We should take the aggravated assault.

The only reason it's being offered is because the DA is convinced she'll never

beat us.

But she's wrong.

She'll win this.

Are you sure?

Positive.

You didn't tell him?

No. Should I?

I don't think.

None of her rulings were clearly in error.

But they all went against you.

Not all. She shut down the dog walker incident. She didn't let it come into

evidence. Yeah, but like you say, the jury heard it. And she wouldn't give you

the mistrial.

What judge would call a mistrial at this point in the trial?

So you've got nothing concrete that she's doing anything wrong, aside from

hitting on you?

Right. But you can't be sure.

Right. This is what you get by not getting her accused. I don't want to

embarrass her. She's a good judge looking in here. You're going to say,

grain of salt.

Lover's fat.

Sort of.

How's it going?

There's a verdict. Jury's back in ten.

You said you'd teach him. I know, but it's just... For what? He's loving it.

That's the problem, Eugene.

He's liking it a little too much.

What are you talking about?

He kind of got excited.

What do you mean, excited?

He grabbed my butt a little.

He's barely 11.

Well, he's a man.

I heard you're entering a play.

Did I have a choice?

Accusation in that tone? The statement from the neighbor was hearsay. It

shouldn't have come in.

Nor should the prior bad act have... You made those objections. They're on the

record, which means you can appeal them.

A little tough after we plea.

Don't enter one, then.

Problem is, you know my rulings will hold up on appeal.

I know they might.

They're close.

You could have gone either way.

You expected me to go your way because I like your glutes?

I didn't expect you to retaliate for my not liking yours.

I can take rejection as a woman, Bobby, but I don't much care for being

criticized as a judge. You erred as a judge by asking me out. Which I freely

admit, but my rulings were legally accurate and completely independent of

personal feelings. I can never know that, can I?

Make your appeal, then.

I never.

Oh, no.

Has the jury reached the verdict? We have.

Will the defendant please stand?

What say you? In the matter of Commonwealth v. John Matlin, on the

aiding and abetting a homicide, we find the defendant, John Matlin, guilty.

Order.

Order!

Your Honor, Your Honor, the defense asks that the judge set this verdict aside.

Denied. Bailiff, take the defendant into custody.

The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. We're adjourned.

Well, they think about two weeks for the voucher trial.

No. And slower.

Well, it's pretty straight ahead, but there's a lot on forensics, so who

Yeah.

No, that'd be all right.

We'll put it on the calendar then.

Really?

No. I don't think so.

Okay. Yeah.

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