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Previously on The Practice. I have a
good portion of the money.
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You're two weeks late now.
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I'm going to borrow some money from my
retirement account.
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My proposal is this. You provide some
legal services and your debt goes away.
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The guy's my bookie. What do you owe?
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27 ,000.
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His ex -wife is suing him for fraud.
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He won a lottery. She's claiming he
didn't tell her.
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I get 70 and you get 30.
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You believe this? They think I whacked
her. Did you?
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Check my alibi. You want peace of mind.
Did you have it done?
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All right, just get me out.
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Your wife's estate can still make a
claim.
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You want me to follow up on that? No.
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Think I might engage a new counsel just
the same.
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So I guess we're done then.
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You still owe me the 27, Jimmy.
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Didn't exactly work that off.
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What do you say you walk out the door?
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Forget my dad.
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And I'll forget how you threatened to
kill your wife.
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Truth is, I got more on you than you got
on me.
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I'm asking you to get out of this office
now.
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I need that money.
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I'll give you a week.
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I can't even believe they're letting him
out. He's managed to convince the
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Shrinks he's no longer a danger.
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If there even still is.
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We were wondering if we could somehow
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Force him to tell us where the remains
are. I really don't see how.
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If he were to tell us where the body is,
he'd effectively be admitting to the
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murder. We're told you have a
relationship with the DA's office.
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Could you... We were thinking, if you
could get them to consider filing
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against Pierce for the kidnapping, that
would give you some leverage, wouldn't
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it? Maybe we could make some deal.
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I know you've been to the DA's office,
and I know what they've told you.
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Because we're just two anonymous people
walking in off the street. They know
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you. If you ask... Mr. Baldwin, first of
all, this kidnapping happened 18 years
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ago.
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If they couldn't build a case then,
there's no way.
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I think you have to let it go now.
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We can't let it go.
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We need to bury our son.
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Wrongful death for a murder that took
place 18 years ago? It's a long shot.
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What's the end game?
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Even if you do win, does he have any
assets?
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It's not about money. Then what's it
about?
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The parents want to bury their son.
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They want closure. If I can create the
threat of a lawsuit, maybe we can get
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this guy to reveal where the remains
are.
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Forgive me, I don't mean to be
insensitive, but suppose you do succeed.
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What's our contingency?
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Lindsay, try to get the police records.
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Find out whatever the DA's office has or
had.
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Eleanor, research the statute of
limitations issue. That'll definitely be
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challenged. Rebecca, you and Jimmy get
started on the complaint.
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Where is Jimmy?
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Thanks.
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Jimmy. How long has it been?
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Aunt Marie's funeral.
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Too long.
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You put on weight.
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Yeah.
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And you're like this big fat cat
yourself now.
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Parking lot king.
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Yeah, king.
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I barely got a one and a quarter percent
profit margin going here.
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What's up, Jim?
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Well... We're family.
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I've gotten myself into a little bit of
a financial jam.
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Normal circumstances, I would never hit
you up for a loan. Normal circumstances?
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I'd give it to you.
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Problem is, Jimmy, I just had to write a
sizable check myself, so it's going to
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depend on how big your little bit of a
jam is.
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I'm feeling sick to my stomach just
asking.
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You owe your book.
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I keep tabs.
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You're family.
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Plus, I like the ponies myself.
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How much?
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It's more football than... How much?
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Twenty -seven grand.
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I wish I could help you, but the
timing's just not good.
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Hey, listen.
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Listen.
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I got a tip on a horse running at
Suffolk day after tomorrow.
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He's a sure winner. I bet on too many
sure winners, Dom.
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How I gotten this, man?
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Well, like I said, I wish I could help.
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I'm going to serve him with the
complaint myself.
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Now listen, you'll have to sign a
confidentiality agreement.
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Why? Because there's no way he's going
to tell us where the body is if he
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you'll go running to the police.
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This isn't about that. I understand, but
he'll obviously need to be convinced.
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We will give him whatever he wants.
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Just tell us where Chad is.
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You'll agree not to pursue him civilly
or criminally. We understand.
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May I go with you?
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To the prison?
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I don't think that's a great idea.
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A mother's plea.
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This is not about a plea, Mrs. Baldwin.
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This is a threat.
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Better it come from a lawyer.
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Are you serious?
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I'm just asking you to check it out.
Lindsay, a kidnapping that happened 18
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years ago, I can promise you it's
inactive.
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I'd just like you to review the file if
you could. Assuming I can even find it.
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And tell me what you have.
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Please. I just want to make sure you've
truly considered the ramifications of
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closing out your IRA.
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I have.
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Realizing that you'll be liable for
taxes on the entire amount.
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Realizing that.
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Also realizing you'll pay a fairly
onerous penalty for early withdrawal.
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Also realizing.
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Approximately $8 ,200.
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$8 ,200?
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My retirement fund is $8 ,200?
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You're 23 years shy of retirement age.
With your maximum annual contribution,
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you let the current amount intact...
Just give me the money.
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Look, I had nothing to do with that
Baldwin kid going missing. It wasn't me.
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You'll need a lawyer.
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If the trial starts before your release,
you'll be transported to and from
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court. They never even arrested me. You
know why? Because I didn't do it.
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Like you never molested those three
little boys who put you in here?
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You married?
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Is that a threat, Mr. Pierce?
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No, it's not a threat. Look, she's got
to be here for this. Yes, she does.
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I need a witness.
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I ask if you're married.
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I see the ring on your finger. You
probably got a nice wife.
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You feel like getting it off?
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She's who you probably think of. You got
fantasies about other women?
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That's cool. Everybody understands.
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Am I right?
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What are you talking about? I'm
explaining something.
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Nobody on the planet can help who
they're attracted to. For me...
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It was always little boys.
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I fooled myself into thinking it was
okay. It didn't hurt anybody. Not
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I did some bad things.
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I admit it.
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And I gotta live with that.
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So do all the boys you hurt.
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Yeah. And I gotta live with that, too.
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But I had nothing to do with your
client's kid, and they got no right to
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I could probably get them to drop the
suit.
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They just want to know where their son
is.
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I don't know what happened to that kid.
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Have your attorney call me.
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He denied it?
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Yes. Did he deny molesting those other
boys?
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No.
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But he said he didn't kidnap your son.
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So what happens now?
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He retained a lawyer.
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A good one.
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She filed an immediate motion for
summary judgment.
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We go and argue that next, if we can get
by that.
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We can at least have some leverage to
make him talk.
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So I'll meet you at the courthouse at 10
o 'clock. Okay.
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Thank you.
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Good night.
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Hey, Jimmy.
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Hi.
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Everything squared away with your
bookie?
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At least I heard cops haven't arrested
him yet.
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I'm not really following it since he
fired me and all.
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I'm talking about the money you owe him.
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Oh, that.
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Yeah.
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We're in the past tense on that.
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Definitely.
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Good.
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Death would be presumed after seven
years, Your Honor, which means the
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of limitations for wrongful death has
long since run. Unless there's fraud
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prevented the Baldwins from finding out
that he caused the wrongful death.
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There wasn't any fraud.
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John Pierce disappeared days after
kidnapping.
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Allegedly kidnapping. He also assumed a
false name and identity, Alexander Riot.
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That's fraud?
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Mr. Pierce wanted a fresh start, to get
out from under the cloud of unfounded,
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unjust suspicion.
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He was convicted of sex crimes under
this alias in another state. It took the
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Baldwin's investigator to figure out
that Pierce and Riot were one and the
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Why didn't your clients at least file
their lawsuit within the prescribed
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to preserve their claim?
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It would have been pointless since they
couldn't locate the defendant.
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You don't need to know where a defendant
is in order to file a lawsuit. You do
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in order to serve him. He was found.
Three years later, they could have
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him in prison.
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All right.
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I'm going to let the claim survive the
statute of limitations challenge.
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But as to whether there's a case here at
all...
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There wasn't even enough evidence for
the police to make an arrest. Different
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standard of proof in criminal cases.
This is civil. Oh, who's kidding who? If
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the police thought he had kidnapped Chad
Baldwin... The police did and do think
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that. They're just unable to prove it.
And you think you can?
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I would like at least to be allowed to
conduct discovery.
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I'm going to grant you a short
evidentiary hearing.
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If you can make a showing that you have
anything worth submitting to a jury,
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I'll let it stand.
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Otherwise, I'm granting the defendant's
motion.
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We'll see you back here tomorrow, 10 a
.m.
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Tomorrow?
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If you're not ready to make a showing,
counsel, after 18 years, that certainly
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gives me pause.
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We'll be here.
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Put the defendant back into custody.
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We just want to give him a funeral.
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I will forgive you. Jenny. If you
just... Honey. Honey,
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Jenny. Please. Don't. Come on. Please.
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I'm sorry. It's all right.
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Okay. It's time to put up or shut up.
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Do we have the transcripts from the
previous trials?
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Lucy ordered them. Okay, Jenny, you
testify first.
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Okay. You might be attacked on memory
the fact that it happened 18 years ago.
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I've been playing it back for 18 years,
Mr. Donald. I remember it as if it was
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yesterday.
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Good.
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Hi, Jimmy. How you doing?
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I asked you not to come back here.
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Take a walk with me.
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Let's go.
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Is this all of it?
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I just gave you 14 .8.
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Which I appreciate, but you owe me 33.
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27. 33 with the juice.
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8 .25%. This is every penny I can get my
hands on.
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Morris, what a surprise. You know Jimmy
Berluti?
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Look, Jimmy, I know what you're
thinking. Morris is a big guy. I brought
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here to rough you up, just like in the
movies, right?
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Kind of cliche, if you ask me.
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But I'll tell you, whatever words people
might use to describe me.
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Original isn't one of them.
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36 hours.
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I'll have the rest.
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You got till tomorrow.
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We just caught a break. What? That was a
guy named Bud Reynolds. He's a resident
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at State Prison.
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He claims John Pierce told him he
kidnapped the Baldwin boy.
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Rebecca, let's go.
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John Pierce confessed to you he
kidnapped, abused, and killed Chad Bull.
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Yeah. After 18 years of denying it, he
suddenly tells a stranger he did it. We
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weren't strangers.
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We were friends.
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Which explains why you're ratting on
him.
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Hey, you don't gotta believe me. It's
nothing to me.
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Why? Why what? Why so public -spirited?
What's in it for you? That warm glow you
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get right here.
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When you squash a maggot.
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I said we were friends.
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We're not now.
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When did this conversation take place?
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Six, eight months ago.
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Why didn't you report it?
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Tell you the truth.
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I kept hoping somebody would stick a
shank in his throat, but nobody ever
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And he's getting out soon.
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How exactly did this conversation come
about?
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I don't remember.
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Just came up.
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Jailhouse informants lie all the time.
But to the police, to cut a deal here,
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what would be his motive?
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Maybe just to get a day in court, break
up the week.
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Did he seem believable?
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I couldn't really tell.
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He's not asking for anything, which
makes me suspect he's probably telling
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truth.
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So he is dead.
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My son.
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Pardon me, thought.
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He was really still alive somewhere.
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Hoped, I guess.
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Geez,
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Jimmy. I told you the time and... Can
you help me with anything?
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A couple of thousand.
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It's killing me.
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But I can't.
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You okay?
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You don't look good.
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Tell me about this horse.
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We were at the park.
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We used to go every morning. It was
Chad's favorite thing to do.
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What would your son do there?
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He loved constructing things in the
sandbox, I guess like any four -year
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This day he was playing with his Legos.
And what were you doing?
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I was watching him, as well as my
daughter Susan, who was on the swings.
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And what happened?
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Susan fell off a swing and hurt herself,
and she was crying. I ran over to see
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about her, maybe 30 or 40 seconds.
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And when I looked back, Chad was gone.
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While your son was playing, did you see
anybody else in the area?
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I saw that man.
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John Pierce?
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Yes. He was at a water fountain about 20
feet away from where Chad was playing.
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What was he doing?
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Just standing there watching the
children.
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Did that make you nervous?
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I really didn't think about it.
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I had seen him before, and he always
seemed a little weird, but none of the
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mothers knew he was a child molester.
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Objection. I'll ignore it.
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After you noticed that your son was
gone, did you see Mr. Pierce?
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No, he was gone too.
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It all happened in seconds.
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Mrs. Baldwin, did you see anyone else
nearby who could have disappeared with
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Chad in a matter of seconds?
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No. Thank you.
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Mr. Pierce actually worked at the park,
didn't he?
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Evidently. You said he seemed weird.
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Had you ever complained about him to
anyone?
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No. To your knowledge, did any of the
mothers ever complain about Mr. Pierce's
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behavior toward their children?
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Not to my knowledge.
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Did you ever see him behave in a scary
or inappropriate manner around the
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children?
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He stared at them sometimes.
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You never did see him abduct your son,
did you? I didn't see it. So it could
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have been somebody else.
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Nobody else was near Chad. How do you
know?
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If Mr. Pierce could disappear into the
trees, someone else could have been
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hiding in there, couldn't they? It was
him.
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It helps to have somebody to blame,
doesn't it, Mrs. Baldwin?
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To give the monster a face.
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Even if it's the wrong face.
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Objection. Withdrawn.
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That's all I have.
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Are you authorized to make withdrawals
from this account?
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I'm a lawyer with the firm.
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James Berluti.
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I should be on record here.
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The manager knows me.
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Mr. Berluti, I'll just have to get this
approved.
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$15 ,000?
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Yes. Okay. It'll just take a second.
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We found three Legos in his apartment.
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Did John Pierce tell you how they got
there?
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Yes, he said he had them when his
nephews came over.
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Three Legos? Yes. Three lone Legos?
That's correct.
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Did you determine how often his nephews,
in fact, came over?
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We determined he had no nephews.
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Were you ever able to determine that the
Legos you found in Mr. Pierce's
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apartment belonged to Chad Baldwin?
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No, we were not.
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Any evidence?
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of Chad Baldwin ever being present in my
client's apartment?
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No. Any physical, testimonial, or
forensic evidence to suggest that Chad
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ever came in contact with John Pierce?
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Only the testimony of the mother, who
said she saw him close to her son.
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I wish I could be more optimistic.
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What about the informant?
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He's going up next, but his
credibility...
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The only other thing I can think of is
to call Pierce.
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If he doesn't take the fifth, maybe if I
go at him hard enough, he'll say
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something to incriminate himself.
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Contrary to the myth, not all child
molesters are rocket scientists.
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12
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,000.
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A number four.
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Maddie's charm. To win.
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$100 exact to wheel.
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Maddie's charm on top.
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And $2 ,000 to show.
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That's a number four.
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Eugene, this just came through the fax.
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It's... What?
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A CTR form from the bank.
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There's been a withdrawal from the
Peterson.
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Before we move on to what Mr. Pierce
said to you, can you tell me how you
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about him?
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I can't stand him.
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I make no bones there.
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Why don't you like Mr. Pierce?
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He told the CO I had contraband in my
cell and I got put in a hole for a few
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days. What kind of contraband?
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A hot plate.
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Are you a vindictive person, Mr.
Reynolds?
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Are you testifying to get back at the
defendant?
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No. I just think he deserves to get out
for what he did to that Baldwin boy.
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All right.
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What exactly did he tell you about that?
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He said, and this is pretty much of a
quote, I sure did enjoy getting that boy
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out from under his mama's nose.
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He was a real looker.
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Did he say who he was talking about?
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He said that kid who was snatched from
the park, Chad Baldwin, the one on the
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news. Did he tell you he murdered Chad?
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He didn't use that word.
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He said he cleaned up after himself and
that he regretted not keeping the kid
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around longer because he was good.
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What was his demeanor as he was telling
you this?
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Sort of dreamy.
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Same look a man gets when he's
remembering a woman.
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Did
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he
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ever give you any specific details of
this crime?
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Just what I told you.
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Just that he did it?
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And enjoyed it.
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Isn't it true that you told Mr. Pierce
you were going to get even with him?
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No, it's not.
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What are you serving a sentence for, Mr.
Reynolds?
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Embezzlement and assault.
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So we can safely assume you are both a
dishonest and a violent person, can we
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not? I am telling the truth here.
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You even have a reputation in prison for
being a snitch, don't you?
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Undeserved. Makes sense that Mr. Pierce
would confess to a known snitch, doesn't
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it? Well, I find pedophiles lack
judgment.
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Anything else, Mr. Donald?
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Yes, Your Honor.
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We call John Pierce to the stand.
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Objection. Mr. Donald knows full well
I'm not about to allow that to happen.
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This is a civil proceeding.
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I can call whoever... In that criminal
charges could follow, my client is
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allowed to assert his Fifth Amendment
right not to testify, and my advice for
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him to do exactly that won't be subtle.
Given that 18 years have passed, the
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likelihood that criminal charges will be
brought... We're not talking
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likelihoods. There's still a chance.
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This man...
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is a convicted child molester. He was
seen and identified as being within 50
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feet of the victim at the time of the
kidnapping.
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Chad Baldwin was playing with Legos at
the time.
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Legos were found in that bastard's
apartment.
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Objection, Mr. Donald.
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We all know we can't get him criminally.
At least give us a chance to get him
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civilly. Counsel, step up.
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00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:22,170
First, Mr. Donald, as much as I admire
your passion, you are not exactly known
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as a champion of fair play, so I would
delete the moral indignation from your
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repertoire.
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00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:30,730
Now,
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Ms. Lightstone, true, your client does
not have to testify here, but if he
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doesn't, you might not like my finding.
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00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:43,450
My client is judgment -proof. I'm not
terribly concerned. I'm not talking
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civil liability.
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What are you talking about?
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you're a good lawyer henrietta figure it
out as a convicted pedophile your
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client can be kept in jail even after
his sentence has expired if he's
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considered to be a danger to society he
has already satisfied the psychiatrist
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that he's not yes they consider him to
be rehabilitated full of remorse well
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from where i sit and i tend to like the
view up here i'm not getting that
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picture if he refuses to testify
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That makes me concerned as to whether he
has truly reformed.
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What are you saying?
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I want to hear from him.
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Otherwise, the district attorney's
office might want to bring civil
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proceedings, and your client may never
get out.
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00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:30,530
This is blackmail.
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I'm just pointing out risks, counsel.
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So, if my client refuses to testify, you
can find him uncooperative and
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recommend he stay locked up forever.
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00:29:39,490 --> 00:29:42,210
And if he testifies and slips up, he
could stay locked up forever.
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Choose your poison.
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Now we have our leverage.
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He's got a strong incentive to tell us
where the body is if it'll stop this
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train. There's no way they want to risk
testifying. If he did testify, do you
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think you could get him? I should be
able to shake him enough to give spindle
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doubts. That's what they have to be
afraid of now.
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He's not just risking criminal
prosecution.
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If he plays dodgeball with me, the D .A.
could argue he's not rehabilitated and
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seek involuntary confinement. It's
civil, but prison is prison. We got him
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the crossfire now.
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Our leverage is great.
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Now's the time to go back to them. With
what?
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Well, if he tells us where the remains
are, we drop our claim, he gets his
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freedom, and you get to have a funeral
for your son.
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00:30:37,390 --> 00:30:38,390
No.
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00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:49,150
Why not?
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Jenny, what's wrong?
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Bobby, you asked us at the beginning why
we hired you.
471
00:30:57,700 --> 00:31:02,060
And I gave you an honest answer that we
wanted closure.
472
00:31:02,780 --> 00:31:09,380
And? And sitting here right now, I don't
know, faced with the possibility that
473
00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:13,720
he could go free, I suddenly realized I
want vengeance more.
474
00:31:14,860 --> 00:31:19,580
Jenny. If the choice is get the body
back and he goes free versus don't get
475
00:31:19,580 --> 00:31:22,460
body and he rocks in jail, I choose that
he rocks.
476
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,680
I want him to rock.
477
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Jimmy.
478
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,560
Can I see you for a minute?
479
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Shut the door.
480
00:32:01,580 --> 00:32:02,580
What's up?
481
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,980
Yeah, it's a withdrawal flip.
482
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,520
What about it?
483
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:15,200
What you need $15 ,000 for?
484
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,320
I had some expenses on the Peterson
case. You're not a good liar, Jimmy.
485
00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:22,420
What's going on?
486
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:28,820
Okay. I had a personal emergency, all
right?
487
00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:32,000
The money's already back. I just came
from the bank.
488
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,700
So you think that's that?
489
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,620
Look, Eugene, I got in a jam with a
bookie. I borrowed money for like seven
490
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:44,820
hours. You stole money.
491
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:48,380
You took from a client's trust fund.
That's theft.
492
00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:51,980
I'm sorry. It was a one -time situation.
493
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,820
Can we just let it go? No.
494
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,920
We can't.
495
00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:59,470
This affects the entire firm.
496
00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:02,350
I've got to bring it to Bobby.
497
00:33:02,810 --> 00:33:04,890
Please, just don't do that, please.
498
00:33:05,690 --> 00:33:07,450
Eugene, please.
499
00:33:21,090 --> 00:33:22,090
Oh, Jimmy.
500
00:33:23,770 --> 00:33:24,950
Eugene wants to see you.
501
00:33:43,150 --> 00:33:47,970
I paid it all back within six hours,
plus interest. By law, we're required to
502
00:33:47,970 --> 00:33:49,890
notify the client and the bar.
503
00:33:50,790 --> 00:33:52,210
You do that, I'm dead.
504
00:33:52,410 --> 00:33:56,690
If I don't, this whole firm could get
disbarred. Bobby, I could go to jail.
505
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:57,870
Whose fault is that?
506
00:33:57,970 --> 00:34:00,090
Look, Bobby, I'm done.
507
00:34:00,310 --> 00:34:04,170
You've said that before. I'm done. You
have my word. I'm supposed to risk
508
00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:06,550
everybody's reputation, risk this firm?
509
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:08,530
On the word of an addict?
510
00:34:08,989 --> 00:34:10,050
I'm not an addict.
511
00:34:13,150 --> 00:34:14,150
I'm doing court.
512
00:34:15,610 --> 00:34:16,989
What's going to happen? I don't know.
513
00:34:29,489 --> 00:34:30,489
Thanks a lot.
514
00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:38,170
This affects everybody, Jimmy.
515
00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:41,730
Try to get that.
516
00:34:52,969 --> 00:34:58,130
Mr. Pierce, if you didn't kidnap Chad
Baldwin, who did?
517
00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:59,970
I do not know.
518
00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:04,530
Do you care? Of course I care, but it
wasn't me.
519
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:07,910
You've already told a lie, haven't you?
On my second question.
520
00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:12,810
Objection. You cared when Chad Baldwin
was kidnapped?
521
00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:19,270
Mr. Donald, I had a sexual problem for
which I received both treatment and
522
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:21,170
medication, but I have never...
523
00:35:21,690 --> 00:35:23,550
Been a person without compassion.
524
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:27,930
So when a four -year -old disappears,
you would feel compassion?
525
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:32,110
Yes. Would you bother to help if you
could?
526
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:33,810
Because I'm curious.
527
00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:38,610
You were there at the time, seen less
than 50 feet away. You even knew the
528
00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:42,450
victim. Why didn't you go forward to the
police as a possible witness?
529
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:45,050
Because I didn't see anything.
530
00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:46,470
How do you know?
531
00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:50,350
Maybe there was something you saw
seemingly irrelevant to you, but it
532
00:35:50,350 --> 00:35:51,350
provided a clue.
533
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,178
To them.
534
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:55,000
Why didn't you at least say, hey, how
can I help?
535
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,020
Look, I was afraid they'd suspect me.
536
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,240
Why?
537
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,340
At this point, your record was clean.
538
00:36:02,860 --> 00:36:04,380
Why would they suspect you?
539
00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:07,040
You didn't molest those other three boys
till after.
540
00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:08,420
Objection. Sustained.
541
00:36:08,620 --> 00:36:14,000
Your work shift went to 4 p .m., but I
see on this day you left early. I didn't
542
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,340
feel well. You didn't feel well.
543
00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:18,440
Did you go to a supervisor to say you
were leaving?
544
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,580
No, I just went home.
545
00:36:20,890 --> 00:36:25,250
Coincidentally, you left within 30 to 40
seconds of the time Chad Baldwin
546
00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:28,290
disappeared. Can you account for such a
coincidence?
547
00:36:28,690 --> 00:36:34,370
A soon -to -be -convicted child molester
is within 50 feet of a child at the
548
00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:36,430
exact time he kidnapped?
549
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:38,090
Objection! Withdrawn.
550
00:36:39,130 --> 00:36:40,270
Why'd you leave the state?
551
00:36:40,530 --> 00:36:44,410
I cooperated completely with the police
before I left the state.
552
00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:45,690
Why'd you leave, sir?
553
00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:50,830
Because I expected to get the same bias
from everybody that I'm getting from
554
00:36:50,830 --> 00:36:51,830
you. So you ran?
555
00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:54,230
Yes. Tell us about those Legos.
556
00:36:54,730 --> 00:36:58,610
Why'd you tell the police the Legos were
for nephews you didn't have?
557
00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:03,030
I lied. As I said, I knew they thought
that I was guilty. So you lied?
558
00:37:03,810 --> 00:37:07,470
Yes. Why didn't you tell them the truth?
559
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:13,170
Because I didn't remember when I got the
Legos. So you decided to say you had
560
00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:14,170
nephews? Yes.
561
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,860
What happened to Chad Baldwin?
562
00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:18,400
I don't know.
563
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:19,720
Do you care?
564
00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:21,740
I said I care.
565
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:23,600
Because you have compassion.
566
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:28,660
Can you feel for his parents sitting
over there?
567
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:32,620
Yes. Can you understand how they would
love to get their son's remains so they
568
00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:33,780
can get some kind of closure?
569
00:37:34,060 --> 00:37:35,480
Can you understand that?
570
00:37:35,740 --> 00:37:38,520
Yes. Would you be willing to help them
if you could?
571
00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:44,920
Yes, but I can't. Well, even peace of
mind that you didn't take... Their son.
572
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,560
Would you be willing to give them that?
573
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,420
I'm trying right now. I appreciate that.
574
00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:51,900
Would you be willing to take a
polygraph?
575
00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:54,820
Objection. I'm not talking about using
it for criminal purposes.
576
00:37:55,460 --> 00:38:00,900
A private polygraph just between parties
just to satisfy my clients that you
577
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:02,400
didn't take their son.
578
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:07,500
Would you be willing to do that so they
can just move on? Those things aren't
579
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:08,900
foolproof. Understood.
580
00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:13,340
Would you be willing? I don't care if
he's willing. I won't allow it. Whatever
581
00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:14,340
your lawyer.
582
00:38:14,530 --> 00:38:19,290
advises or recommends, John, it's
ultimately your decision.
583
00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:23,010
Will you take that polygraph?
584
00:38:23,330 --> 00:38:26,970
No, because I don't trust them to be
reliable.
585
00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:30,130
And you insist on reliability.
586
00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:32,050
Objection.
587
00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:34,410
Nothing further.
588
00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:40,490
All right, Mr. Pierce, you may step
down.
589
00:38:42,010 --> 00:38:43,030
Mr. Donald.
590
00:38:43,470 --> 00:38:44,470
Any other witnesses?
591
00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:45,348
No, Your Honor.
592
00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:46,510
Ms. Lightstone?
593
00:38:46,810 --> 00:38:48,090
No, but I'd like to be heard.
594
00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:49,350
I'm not interested.
595
00:38:50,370 --> 00:38:51,370
All right.
596
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:57,590
If the defendant was not involved in the
disappearance of Chad Baldwin, then we
597
00:38:57,590 --> 00:39:02,370
have to assume there was another
skulking child molester who happened to
598
00:39:02,370 --> 00:39:05,710
hiding behind a tree in the same area at
the same time.
599
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:09,830
Mr. Pierce, you look pretty guilty to
me.
600
00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:11,810
But as for evidence...
601
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:13,170
That's all there is.
602
00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:15,290
You were there at the time and place.
603
00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:17,810
Admittedly, your job required you to be
there.
604
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:24,510
I'm going to let this case go forward.
But, Mr. Donald, if you don't come up
605
00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:26,910
with more, I will be dismissing it at a
later date.
606
00:39:27,390 --> 00:39:30,670
What about recommending to the district
attorney's office that they file for
607
00:39:30,670 --> 00:39:31,670
civil commitment?
608
00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:37,870
I can't recommend a man's freedom be
taken away based on suspicion alone.
609
00:39:39,870 --> 00:39:40,870
We're adjourned.
610
00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:55,410
I'm sorry.
611
00:39:56,590 --> 00:39:57,590
Is it over?
612
00:39:58,490 --> 00:40:02,010
No. If the wrongful death action
survives, we can keep digging.
613
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:04,690
But there's no money to be won.
614
00:40:05,950 --> 00:40:09,550
And as for keeping him in jail or
finding the whereabouts of your son's
615
00:40:09,550 --> 00:40:13,770
remains... We struck out.
616
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:17,430
I'm very sorry.
617
00:40:18,110 --> 00:40:19,110
You did your best.
618
00:40:20,070 --> 00:40:23,350
Perhaps a wiser lawyer would have
steered you away from all this.
619
00:40:24,330 --> 00:40:25,590
We wouldn't let you.
620
00:40:26,330 --> 00:40:27,330
You tried.
621
00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:52,130
Mr. Donald?
622
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:53,630
Yes.
623
00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:56,130
I'm James Tucker, and this is my mother.
624
00:40:58,690 --> 00:41:03,290
How can I help you? We've been following
the Pierce trial on the news, and we
625
00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:04,290
need to talk to somebody.
626
00:41:05,390 --> 00:41:06,390
About what?
627
00:41:09,450 --> 00:41:10,950
I think I may be Chad Baldwin.
628
00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:26,300
Hakeem has had a problem holding on to
the ball.
629
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,360
Last year and in preseason, Tom Ruhle,
one of the best in the league,
630
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,100
kick. Hakeem feels it back at the 15
-yard line.
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