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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,642 --> 00:00:11,678 [Loud popping &                  fans cheering]                   2 00:00:11,711 --> 00:00:13,046    ♪                             3 00:00:13,113 --> 00:00:15,482 WCW is about to                     dominate the globe            4 00:00:15,515 --> 00:00:17,017   with professional wrestling.   5 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:20,053 10 million people in the            United States were            6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,522    zeroed in on professional       wrestling.                     7 00:00:22,555 --> 00:00:24,524   We were the number              one cable rated show.           8 00:00:24,557 --> 00:00:27,127  For almost two years.            Mind blowing.                   9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,362   And, when something            gets too big, too fast,          10 00:00:29,396 --> 00:00:32,165 shit's gonna hit the fan            at some point, and it did.    11 00:00:32,198 --> 00:00:34,534    Little by little,              we just fell.                   12 00:00:34,567 --> 00:00:37,303  We already knew that             we were running thin.           13 00:00:37,337 --> 00:00:40,840    It is so good to be king.     14 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:42,242   He cared more about             ratings than                    15 00:00:42,308 --> 00:00:44,144  he cared about                    advertising dollars.           16 00:00:44,177 --> 00:00:46,746   It was a shit show.            17 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:49,349 Vince Russo was                    just another idiot.            18 00:00:49,382 --> 00:00:52,085  He was there to lead            to our ultimate demise.          19 00:00:52,152 --> 00:00:53,653   Kiss my ass!                   20 00:00:53,686 --> 00:00:56,423   I was done.                      It was over.                   21 00:00:56,489 --> 00:00:58,258  I could'nt care less.           22 00:00:58,324 --> 00:00:59,526   No doubt in my mind Bischoff   23 00:00:59,559 --> 00:01:02,195   was responsible for               a little of this.             24 00:01:02,228 --> 00:01:04,864    Another nail in the coffin     of a company that was           25 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:06,533   rapidly dying at that time.    26 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:09,669    I don't control that shit.       I go out and I do my job.     27 00:01:09,702 --> 00:01:11,171 My check didn't change.          28 00:01:11,204 --> 00:01:13,373    It was the easiest money         I ever made in my career.     29 00:01:13,406 --> 00:01:14,841  Like,                            they got what?                  30 00:01:14,874 --> 00:01:15,909   Hey!                           31 00:01:15,942 --> 00:01:17,877   When guys got those               kind of agendas,              32 00:01:17,911 --> 00:01:20,013    thinking about themselves,       that's pretty much            33 00:01:20,046 --> 00:01:21,948  when the ship                     started to go down.            34 00:01:22,015 --> 00:01:24,617  This is some                    fucked up shit.                  35 00:01:24,684 --> 00:01:27,220  You ain't in                    Kansas anymore.                  36 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:28,288   [Overlapping voices]           37 00:01:28,354 --> 00:01:31,858  You cannot sweep this           under the rug!                   38 00:01:31,891 --> 00:01:33,526  ...I don't understand              what he's doing.              39 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,728 The real reason                     men commit lies...            40 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:38,264    [Extended                     flatlining beep]                 41 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:42,402    ♪ [Dramatic orchestral] ♪     42 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:47,874    ♪                             43 00:01:47,907 --> 00:01:53,646    ♪                             44 00:01:53,713 --> 00:01:55,448    [Production Crew]             Grid going out!                  45 00:01:55,482 --> 00:01:58,618    ♪                             46 00:02:02,388 --> 00:02:04,791 It is at an end.                 47 00:02:04,824 --> 00:02:06,893   It didn't feel like               a family anymore.             48 00:02:06,926 --> 00:02:09,229 It felt like everybody           was out for themselves,          49 00:02:09,262 --> 00:02:11,664   and it seemed like the blood     was in the water and           50 00:02:11,731 --> 00:02:14,167 the sharks were                     coming to get it.             51 00:02:14,234 --> 00:02:15,335    I think everybody                just didn't know              52 00:02:15,401 --> 00:02:16,603   what was happening.            53 00:02:16,636 --> 00:02:17,904  We were still hearing           the rumors that                  54 00:02:17,937 --> 00:02:19,672    we were just gonna            shut the doors.                  55 00:02:19,739 --> 00:02:23,076    So, I think at that point       everybody was just really...   56 00:02:23,109 --> 00:02:24,344    unsettled.                    57 00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:26,179    It's easy to lose sight of    how lucky we are                 58 00:02:26,246 --> 00:02:28,648   to be part of this.               Hopefully, it ain't over.     59 00:02:28,681 --> 00:02:32,185  WCW wrestling is so important     to me, and there's just...     60 00:02:32,252 --> 00:02:34,487 that one guy at Turner,           I think just                    61 00:02:34,521 --> 00:02:36,656    doesn't think wrestling's        cool or whatever,             62 00:02:36,689 --> 00:02:39,159    so he's gonna ruin it for       millions of people.            63 00:02:39,192 --> 00:02:41,027  I think Turner finally          started looking into the         64 00:02:41,094 --> 00:02:43,930    books and said, "We gotta     pull the plug on this."          65 00:02:43,963 --> 00:02:48,034  No matter how much Ted             Turner loved this business    66 00:02:48,101 --> 00:02:50,136 and wanted to, you know,         keep it afloat,                  67 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:52,472 you start looking at the          books at that time and          68 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:54,641  seeing how much money              we were spending,             69 00:02:54,674 --> 00:02:56,709   I can only imagine how much      money went out the window.     70 00:02:56,776 --> 00:02:59,946   Oh, my god.                    71 00:02:59,979 --> 00:03:03,283    After Brad brought me back       to kind of oversee Russo,     72 00:03:03,316 --> 00:03:05,652  it was apparent to me            that things were more           73 00:03:05,685 --> 00:03:07,820   dysfunctional within Turner       Broadcasting and              74 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:10,390   in the relationship between    Turner and WCW                   75 00:03:10,456 --> 00:03:11,958 than they had ever been.         76 00:03:11,991 --> 00:03:13,726  And I'm not talking about what    was going on on television,    77 00:03:13,793 --> 00:03:15,828  or how much money they           were making or losing.          78 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:18,331  I'm just talking about             the relationship.             79 00:03:18,364 --> 00:03:19,966    ♪                             80 00:03:19,999 --> 00:03:22,735   Time Warner is a company of      winning brands and             81 00:03:22,802 --> 00:03:25,738 winning people,                  and so is AOL.                   82 00:03:25,805 --> 00:03:28,041    For this merger-               just like when we put           83 00:03:28,074 --> 00:03:30,143   Turner Broadcasting               into Time Warner              84 00:03:30,176 --> 00:03:32,145   it made the company              much, much stronger.           85 00:03:32,178 --> 00:03:33,413    And I think we're                all committed to              86 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:34,914 making this thing work.          87 00:03:34,981 --> 00:03:37,584   AOL was absolutely             ubiquitous at that time          88 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:40,086    in terms of in the public      consciousness                   89 00:03:40,153 --> 00:03:42,722  the company introduced           many people to                  90 00:03:42,755 --> 00:03:44,724  the concept of                     logging on to the internet    91 00:03:44,757 --> 00:03:46,192 for the very first time.         92 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:48,394    [Ad] I've been on America       Online two months,             93 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:51,097   and it's really been             a revelation for me.           94 00:03:51,164 --> 00:03:54,067 You've Got Mail!                    [Laughing]                    95 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:56,869    This is at the time where        a lot of the new internet     96 00:03:56,903 --> 00:04:01,040 dotcom businesses were            receiving wild overvaluations   97 00:04:01,074 --> 00:04:03,576    based on promises                of future growth.             98 00:04:03,610 --> 00:04:06,946   If you looked at the              assets, besides furniture-    99 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:10,450  [Laughing]- they have            a subscription list,            100 00:04:10,516 --> 00:04:13,620  and that's the people            who subscribe to AOL.           101 00:04:13,686 --> 00:04:17,223  AOL's leadership in the early   part of 1999 also were           102 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:19,859   keenly aware of this           reality as well.                 103 00:04:19,892 --> 00:04:23,196 So, one option that was            considered was to merge with   104 00:04:23,229 --> 00:04:25,198    a media and entertainment      conglomerate,                   105 00:04:25,231 --> 00:04:26,733  which was Time Warner.          106 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:28,368   [News] The combined company,     which will be called           107 00:04:28,401 --> 00:04:32,405    AOL Time Warner gives each       partner what it now lacks.    108 00:04:32,438 --> 00:04:35,541 [Guy] What ended up happening is  that AOL shareholders           109 00:04:35,575 --> 00:04:38,745   would receive 55% of           the new company,                 110 00:04:38,778 --> 00:04:41,814   and Time Warner 45%.           111 00:04:41,881 --> 00:04:44,584   Now, my dad's never            been online on his own.          112 00:04:44,617 --> 00:04:46,452    Never touched a computer,        never owned a cell phone,     113 00:04:46,486 --> 00:04:49,722   never used an ATM.             Right? He's old school.          114 00:04:49,756 --> 00:04:53,960    So, I think it was a whole     generation gap lost on          115 00:04:53,993 --> 00:04:57,764 AOL's going to buy this            giant company with nothing,    116 00:04:57,797 --> 00:04:59,966    where the older investment     guys are like,                  117 00:04:59,999 --> 00:05:01,434 "Well, you can't                  turn it down.                   118 00:05:01,467 --> 00:05:04,304   Hundreds of dollars a share,      this is gonna be awesome.     119 00:05:04,337 --> 00:05:05,772  We're all gonna make a             billion dollars,"             120 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:07,507 but nobody would                 stand up and go,                 121 00:05:07,573 --> 00:05:09,776 "This is a Ponzi scheme,           man," right?                   122 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:11,911   This is, this is all              gonna fall apart.             123 00:05:11,944 --> 00:05:14,814    The Blockbuster deal still       needs regulatory approval,    124 00:05:14,847 --> 00:05:17,517    and a nod from Time Warner     and AOL shareholders.           125 00:05:17,583 --> 00:05:20,953 AOL had serious,                 serious issues.                  126 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:24,857    You know, WCW got             caught up in that also.          127 00:05:24,924 --> 00:05:27,694    And essentially you could      say it was collateral damage.   128 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,165  Wrestling has become               fun, crazy entertainment.     129 00:05:32,198 --> 00:05:34,033  It is, it's an                    alternative.                   130 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:35,702    It doesn't define              our network.                    131 00:05:35,768 --> 00:05:37,003  It's one night a week.          132 00:05:37,036 --> 00:05:38,504 It's a hit every                  Monday night.                   133 00:05:38,538 --> 00:05:40,106  But it wasn't anymore.          134 00:05:40,139 --> 00:05:42,108  Because it was broken            and I had to fix it,            135 00:05:42,141 --> 00:05:44,377 I was a physical                 presence there.                  136 00:05:44,444 --> 00:05:47,780   I was in there trying to do       whatever I can do             137 00:05:47,814 --> 00:05:49,349 to get it back on track.         138 00:05:49,382 --> 00:05:51,317   Big mistake!                   139 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:54,120 What a bunch of                  fucking boobs.                   140 00:05:54,153 --> 00:05:56,022  It was so bad!                  141 00:05:56,055 --> 00:05:58,858   I really felt like,               okay, stake in our heart.     142 00:05:58,891 --> 00:06:02,328    It was a chaotic               shit show and a blur.           143 00:06:02,362 --> 00:06:05,031    And, I said, "I'm about to    get the hell out of here         144 00:06:05,064 --> 00:06:06,332  because I've had it."           145 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:08,234   You had to look out             for yourself.                   146 00:06:08,301 --> 00:06:09,802   [Janie] I just felt               like Brad didn't              147 00:06:09,836 --> 00:06:11,804  know anything                   about wrestling.                 148 00:06:11,838 --> 00:06:13,539  I mean, he knew about             the corporate side,            149 00:06:13,573 --> 00:06:15,241 but he wasn't a                     wrestling person.             150 00:06:15,308 --> 00:06:17,176   He wasn't somebody              that was gonna try to           151 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:18,511  help save the company.          152 00:06:18,544 --> 00:06:21,247    It was like going               through the motions.           153 00:06:21,314 --> 00:06:23,883 To be completely honest,            I couldn't fix it.            154 00:06:23,916 --> 00:06:25,551 And the red kept                 getting redder.                  155 00:06:25,585 --> 00:06:27,887  And the ratings kept falling,      and falling, and falling.     156 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,357   [Guy] In addition, WCW drove   away its paid audience.          157 00:06:31,391 --> 00:06:34,193    Look at the difference in      buy rate between the            158 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:37,563    uncensored Pay Per View in     March of 1999 and the           159 00:06:37,597 --> 00:06:40,666    same event just 12 months     later in March of 2000.          160 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:42,869    They basically put on the     exact same main event.           161 00:06:42,902 --> 00:06:44,670  Hogan-Flair two years              in a row.                     162 00:06:44,704 --> 00:06:46,439   [Commentary]                     Hold onto your hats!           163 00:06:46,506 --> 00:06:48,007     1, 2, 3!                     164 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,177  In March of '99, the            uncensored Pay Per View          165 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:54,614   enticed some 325,000 viewers   166 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,948  to purchase the event,          167 00:06:56,015 --> 00:06:58,584    but just 12 months later,     only 60,000 people were          168 00:06:58,618 --> 00:07:01,454   willing to purchase              the 2000 version of            169 00:07:01,521 --> 00:07:03,089 WCW Uncensored.                  170 00:07:03,122 --> 00:07:06,526 That represents                  a drop of 81%.                   171 00:07:06,559 --> 00:07:09,028    ♪                             172 00:07:09,061 --> 00:07:11,464   [Eric] The narrative, it was     at the end of 2000.            173 00:07:11,531 --> 00:07:14,534    WCW had losses of               around $62 million.            174 00:07:14,567 --> 00:07:15,935  That's the narrative.           175 00:07:15,968 --> 00:07:17,937  And I think that there            probably is a grain of truth   176 00:07:17,970 --> 00:07:21,974 to that, but what people           don't understand...            177 00:07:22,041 --> 00:07:23,576   is the why.                    178 00:07:23,609 --> 00:07:25,711    Professional wrestling is     very different                   179 00:07:25,745 --> 00:07:28,481    when you're a company like    Time Warner AOL.                 180 00:07:28,548 --> 00:07:31,217  A lot of answering to            shareholders that have          181 00:07:31,250 --> 00:07:35,555    expectations on a monthly      and quarterly basis.            182 00:07:35,588 --> 00:07:39,492    I think there was a lot of      debt from other divisions in   183 00:07:39,559 --> 00:07:42,628  the company that could           be allocated- legally-          184 00:07:42,662 --> 00:07:45,665 but allocated as losses against   WCW because everybody           185 00:07:45,731 --> 00:07:48,301   knew it was gonna be written    off as a loss anyway.           186 00:07:48,334 --> 00:07:51,270  The bullshit internal            transfers that people           187 00:07:51,304 --> 00:07:54,140 tried to park all their             trash on our books while,     188 00:07:54,173 --> 00:07:56,108   while we were getting hurt.    189 00:07:56,142 --> 00:07:59,078  It was clear to me at           that point that                  190 00:07:59,111 --> 00:08:00,947   Turner Broadcasting              didn't want                    191 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:02,782 anything to do with WCW,         192 00:08:02,815 --> 00:08:05,117   and I said to Brad,             specifically, I said,           193 00:08:05,151 --> 00:08:10,356   "Brad, why don't you let me      explore selling WCW            194 00:08:10,423 --> 00:08:12,959    while it still has              some value?"                   195 00:08:12,992 --> 00:08:16,162 Because, the velocity at          which WCW was                   196 00:08:16,195 --> 00:08:18,698  losing ground at that           particular time                  197 00:08:18,764 --> 00:08:21,033   was pretty dramatic.           198 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:24,136   Brad kind of chuckled at me,     and he said, "Eric,            199 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:27,173 you know this company.           We don't sell anything.          200 00:08:27,206 --> 00:08:30,776 We buy things."                    So I just let it go.           201 00:08:30,810 --> 00:08:33,145 Fast forward...                  202 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:34,514  Good evening.                   203 00:08:34,547 --> 00:08:36,716  Today we announce that             the Federal Communications    204 00:08:36,782 --> 00:08:40,720   Commission has approved the       merger of America Online      205 00:08:40,786 --> 00:08:43,022   and Time Warner Inc.           206 00:08:43,055 --> 00:08:46,959   So the merger was announced     on January 11th 2000.           207 00:08:46,993 --> 00:08:49,562   Finalized on                      January 11th 2001.            208 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:53,165    There had actually been a        lot of financial experts      209 00:08:53,199 --> 00:08:55,067 who had been predicting            the imminent demise            210 00:08:55,134 --> 00:08:57,336   of AOL for quite some time.    211 00:08:57,370 --> 00:09:00,873   Keep in mind that throughout    the year 2000                   212 00:09:00,907 --> 00:09:02,575 a number of significant             things happened.              213 00:09:02,642 --> 00:09:05,244    We had the dotcom                recession, right,             214 00:09:05,311 --> 00:09:07,747 we had a number of these           internet companies that were   215 00:09:07,813 --> 00:09:10,216   going to be the darlings of     the future that went            216 00:09:10,249 --> 00:09:13,386 belly up, which affected          AOL in a serious way.           217 00:09:13,419 --> 00:09:16,155 Its stock price                  dropped by 50%,                  218 00:09:16,188 --> 00:09:19,091    which of course creates a      huge pressure to look           219 00:09:19,158 --> 00:09:22,228    closely at which divisions       are profitable and            220 00:09:22,261 --> 00:09:24,697  which are registering            huge losses.                    221 00:09:24,730 --> 00:09:27,166  That put WCW even more             in the crosshairs.            222 00:09:27,199 --> 00:09:29,035 There were a lot                  of executives                   223 00:09:29,068 --> 00:09:31,003 at very                           senior levels.                  224 00:09:31,037 --> 00:09:34,740   The only person standing in     front of them was Ted Turner.   225 00:09:34,774 --> 00:09:36,542   The merger happens.            226 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:38,744    Ted becomes Vice Chairman.    227 00:09:38,778 --> 00:09:40,780 You know, he was excited           about that at first.           228 00:09:40,846 --> 00:09:42,615    And you know, you have an       office in New York,            229 00:09:42,682 --> 00:09:45,551    you know, "I've made it."        Well, no,                     230 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:48,220    your name made it,            your businesses made it.         231 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:49,622    But they didn't want even      want to hear                    232 00:09:49,689 --> 00:09:51,257  at the board meetings              from him.                     233 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:53,626 [Eric] Ted Turner was no           longer a challenge.            234 00:09:53,693 --> 00:09:55,795   Ted Turner was regulated to      the corner and didn't have     235 00:09:55,861 --> 00:09:58,864    a voice or vote in            his own company.                 236 00:09:58,898 --> 00:10:01,801    You know, Ted is no longer     in a position to have           237 00:10:01,867 --> 00:10:05,237 control over WCW                 and its affairs.                 238 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:08,374   [Brad] I remember saying, y      ou know, with Time Warner,     239 00:10:08,407 --> 00:10:10,977   is it that important to own      a wrestling company            240 00:10:11,043 --> 00:10:14,380   that's losing money,             bleeding massively,            241 00:10:14,413 --> 00:10:17,750   has lost money every year of   its existence except for         242 00:10:17,783 --> 00:10:19,919    one or two years-             is that really                   243 00:10:19,952 --> 00:10:22,788 what Time Warner                  needs to own?                   244 00:10:22,822 --> 00:10:24,757   I don't think we need this.    245 00:10:29,895 --> 00:10:31,797   [Off-screen]                    Brad Siegel, take one.          246 00:10:31,831 --> 00:10:33,265   Mark.                          247 00:10:33,299 --> 00:10:34,500    I get a phone call               from Brad.                    248 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:36,969    And he said, "So,              let me ask you, Eric,           249 00:10:37,003 --> 00:10:38,771 a couple months ago you          brought up the idea of           250 00:10:38,804 --> 00:10:41,474    selling WCW. Do you think        you could find a buyer?"      251 00:10:41,507 --> 00:10:44,677 And I immediately said,          "Sure." I had no idea,           252 00:10:44,744 --> 00:10:46,178  I'd never done                     anything like that before.    253 00:10:46,245 --> 00:10:48,247 But I assured him that I            could find someone            254 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,182   who had the                      resources to buy it.           255 00:10:50,249 --> 00:10:51,684 I said, "Do you want me          to put a deal together?          256 00:10:51,751 --> 00:10:53,185    You want me to try to put     some people together?"           257 00:10:53,252 --> 00:10:54,920  And he goes,                      "See what you got."            258 00:10:54,954 --> 00:10:57,823  I went to a guy by the            name of Peter Guber.           259 00:10:57,857 --> 00:11:00,126   Peter Guber at that point of     time owned a company           260 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:01,861  called Mandalay Sports             and Entertainment.            261 00:11:01,927 --> 00:11:04,864   He's a very, very, very well      established Hollywood guy.    262 00:11:04,930 --> 00:11:07,099   And he said, "Look, I'm not       interested in investing,      263 00:11:07,133 --> 00:11:08,534  in buying WCW,                  264 00:11:08,601 --> 00:11:10,436 but I think I know some             people who may."              265 00:11:10,469 --> 00:11:13,506  And he put me in touch            with Brian Bedol and           266 00:11:13,539 --> 00:11:14,974    Steve Greenberg, who owned    a company called                 267 00:11:15,007 --> 00:11:16,542 Fusient Media Ventures.          268 00:11:16,609 --> 00:11:18,277  Fusient Media Ventures          had created the                  269 00:11:18,310 --> 00:11:19,712 Classic Sports Network,          270 00:11:19,779 --> 00:11:22,948   which became                     ESPN Sports Classic.           271 00:11:22,982 --> 00:11:24,850 Brian and Steve                     understood media.             272 00:11:24,884 --> 00:11:28,320    They had great connections      in New York, on Wall Street.   273 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:31,624 And, we hit it off, and           started the process.            274 00:11:31,657 --> 00:11:33,826    I called Brad back, said,      "Okay, I got the investment."   275 00:11:33,859 --> 00:11:36,662   Fusient Media funded              the initial round             276 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,364  with 5 million                   of their own,                   277 00:11:38,397 --> 00:11:41,734   and then went out and raised      $62 million in the market,    278 00:11:41,801 --> 00:11:44,537   so I felt like I was capable     with the financial resources   279 00:11:44,570 --> 00:11:46,238  and the right                      partners with me,             280 00:11:46,305 --> 00:11:48,207    there was                        potential for WCW.            281 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,809    They professional             wrestling genre                  282 00:11:49,842 --> 00:11:52,144  as a whole is                   indestructible.                  283 00:11:52,178 --> 00:11:54,580    It's just a matter of the      company being                   284 00:11:54,647 --> 00:11:55,881   in the right hands.            285 00:11:55,915 --> 00:11:58,017   Eric was invested in           286 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:02,188    trying to keep WCW               alive and moving.             287 00:12:02,221 --> 00:12:05,357 So, it was very exciting           when the opportunity           288 00:12:05,391 --> 00:12:07,526    came up to buy it.            289 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:11,864 And it wasn't surprising         that he went 100% all in         290 00:12:11,897 --> 00:12:14,867 and just gave it                   all he had.                    291 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:18,170   We had come up with a loose     plan of what we were            292 00:12:18,204 --> 00:12:20,206    going to do once the deal        was consummated.              293 00:12:20,239 --> 00:12:22,675   For example,                    went out to Las Vegas.          294 00:12:22,708 --> 00:12:25,111    We met with the Hard Rock        and they were planning on     295 00:12:25,177 --> 00:12:26,912 building a entertainment         theater on top of one of         296 00:12:26,946 --> 00:12:30,082   their parking garages that      would hold about 3500 people.   297 00:12:30,116 --> 00:12:33,119   So, we started to negotiate     the opportunity for kind of a   298 00:12:33,185 --> 00:12:35,588  full-time location, producing   our shows in front of a          299 00:12:35,621 --> 00:12:37,957    live audience in Las Vegas      every Monday night.            300 00:12:38,023 --> 00:12:39,759  And one of the initial             thoughts we had is            301 00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:44,063    let's bring WCW back with        this Pay Per View             302 00:12:44,096 --> 00:12:47,233   called The Big Bang.           303 00:12:47,266 --> 00:12:49,935    So, on January 11th 2001,     304 00:12:49,969 --> 00:12:52,471 it appears that                   Fusient Media Ventures          305 00:12:52,538 --> 00:12:54,406  has purchased                    the company.                    306 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,809   The figure that was reported      at the time of the            307 00:12:56,876 --> 00:12:59,945 apparent sale to Fusient         was $67 million.                 308 00:12:59,979 --> 00:13:01,814    You know, there's a lot of       exuberance about,             309 00:13:01,881 --> 00:13:04,483    once again, this being now       the turning point.            310 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:06,085    Now we've got the               new owners in play,            311 00:13:06,118 --> 00:13:07,620   now Eric Bischoff's             back in his position,           312 00:13:07,653 --> 00:13:09,722   this is where we're               off to the races.             313 00:13:09,755 --> 00:13:11,323 The new goal is                    100 weeks in a row,            314 00:13:11,390 --> 00:13:13,292    and that's kind of what's     in the future for WCW.           315 00:13:33,846 --> 00:13:35,314    Oh, I was excited.              I thought, you know,           316 00:13:35,347 --> 00:13:37,750    okay, great, this is gonna    open a new door.                 317 00:13:37,783 --> 00:13:40,119  We're gonna continue             to go on like we are.           318 00:13:40,152 --> 00:13:42,688  I think we were gonna              see a, a smarter,             319 00:13:42,755 --> 00:13:45,191  newer, more refreshed              version of Eric.              320 00:13:45,257 --> 00:13:47,860 He looked really gung ho            to make this work.            321 00:13:47,927 --> 00:13:51,130   [Eric] Turner Broadcasting       guaranteed us our time slot    322 00:13:51,163 --> 00:13:53,165 on Monday night                    and Thursday night.            323 00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:55,301   So, our job was then             to produce the show,           324 00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:58,437    find the advertisers, and        turn the show profitable.     325 00:13:58,470 --> 00:14:00,105  I remember that being              part of the deal,             326 00:14:00,139 --> 00:14:01,841   and I liked that as               part of the deal.             327 00:14:01,874 --> 00:14:04,343   Knowing that you've            got that slot,                   328 00:14:04,376 --> 00:14:06,946   then being able to calculate      what the advertising value    329 00:14:06,979 --> 00:14:08,514  of that's gonna be...           330 00:14:08,547 --> 00:14:09,982   is critical.                   331 00:14:10,015 --> 00:14:13,519    So, it was a fait accompli      as far as we were concerned.   332 00:14:13,552 --> 00:14:17,556  And we were scheduled             to close that deal.            333 00:14:17,623 --> 00:14:19,024  [Guy]                            On the March the 6th,           334 00:14:19,058 --> 00:14:20,826 Jamie Kellner is                 announced as the                 335 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:22,561    new CEO of                      Turner Broadcasting.           336 00:14:22,628 --> 00:14:24,864 Jamie Kellner is someone            whose reputation certainly    337 00:14:24,897 --> 00:14:26,899   preceeded him in the             television business.           338 00:14:26,966 --> 00:14:29,735    He is credited with having       a huge influence over the     339 00:14:29,802 --> 00:14:32,338    growth of the Fox Network,       and then actually becoming    340 00:14:32,371 --> 00:14:35,708    a founding partner               of the WB Network.            341 00:14:35,741 --> 00:14:38,544 And, upon being                   appointed to the role,          342 00:14:38,577 --> 00:14:41,914 his initial comments to           the press were that-            343 00:14:41,981 --> 00:14:44,216    I'm paraphrasing-                "This is a great company,     344 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:45,417  full of great people.           345 00:14:45,484 --> 00:14:47,052    I'm gonna try not                to mess things up.            346 00:14:47,086 --> 00:14:49,154 I'm going to tweak it."          347 00:14:49,188 --> 00:14:51,891   Jamie Kellner was one of the      best television executives    348 00:14:51,924 --> 00:14:55,060 in the business,                    but Jamie hated wrestling.    349 00:14:55,094 --> 00:14:58,264 He hated it, you know.             He hated it, didn't get it.    350 00:14:58,330 --> 00:14:59,999   Didn't want anything            to do with it.                  351 00:15:00,032 --> 00:15:01,734    It was a pain in the ass,     352 00:15:01,767 --> 00:15:04,703  and we were losing so           much money all the time          353 00:15:04,737 --> 00:15:08,440 that I think- I made the         suggestion to sell WCW.          354 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:10,175 I don't know if                  it came from me,                 355 00:15:10,209 --> 00:15:12,912  or somebody suggested           and I latched on to it,          356 00:15:12,945 --> 00:15:14,113   and Jamie was like,            357 00:15:14,179 --> 00:15:16,382  "Yep, get rid of this             as fast as you can.            358 00:15:16,415 --> 00:15:18,350  I don't want anything           to do with it."                  359 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:22,288 March 16th, Brad Siegel             sends out a memo advising     360 00:15:22,354 --> 00:15:25,724   WCW employees there's going    to a period of hiatus.           361 00:15:25,758 --> 00:15:28,961  Then just a few days later...   362 00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:31,063  Actually, there's not             gonna be a hiatus,             363 00:15:31,096 --> 00:15:33,899  but the programming is           being canceled after a          364 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:36,101    29-year run on the            Turner Networks.                 365 00:15:36,135 --> 00:15:39,438 And that leads us to an          episode of Monday Nitro          366 00:15:39,471 --> 00:15:41,907   in the midst of all of this    chaos that has to occur          367 00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:45,244 in Gainesville, Florida           that Monday evening.            368 00:15:45,277 --> 00:15:47,980     Many of you may know that     for the past six months         369 00:15:48,047 --> 00:15:49,615  I've been working with             a group of people             370 00:15:49,648 --> 00:15:51,450    whose goal it was,                and is,                      371 00:15:51,483 --> 00:15:53,953     to acquire World              Championship Wrestling.         372 00:15:53,986 --> 00:15:56,789     But recently we've hit a        couple road blocks            373 00:15:56,822 --> 00:16:00,159   that may be                      in fact brick falls.           374 00:16:00,225 --> 00:16:02,995     And, while it is                still in my power,            375 00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:05,831  I want to do something           befitting what could be         376 00:16:05,898 --> 00:16:08,467    very well the last               night of wrestling            377 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:10,602  on the Turner Networks.         378 00:16:10,636 --> 00:16:12,805   [Audience shouting]            379 00:16:12,838 --> 00:16:15,307     That being said, I'll see     you all in Panama City          380 00:16:15,341 --> 00:16:17,910    next Monday night,             the Night of Champions.         381 00:16:17,943 --> 00:16:20,245   [Commentary]                     Incredible!                    382 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:22,314    ♪                             383 00:16:22,348 --> 00:16:24,483    [Eric] We're just getting     ready to close,                  384 00:16:24,516 --> 00:16:26,185    and I got a call                 from Brian Bedol,             385 00:16:26,251 --> 00:16:29,088 and Brian said,                     "Eric, it's done."            386 00:16:29,121 --> 00:16:31,357 I said,                             "Congratulations, Brian!"     387 00:16:31,423 --> 00:16:33,359 He said, "No, you don't          understand. It's done.           388 00:16:33,425 --> 00:16:37,096    The deal is over.               It's off the table."           389 00:16:37,129 --> 00:16:39,932  We were rounding third          heading for home                 390 00:16:39,965 --> 00:16:41,934    and there was no                warning whatsoever.            391 00:16:41,967 --> 00:16:44,370    It came completely            out of the blue.                 392 00:16:44,436 --> 00:16:46,939  Jamie Kellner,                    he was the head dog.           393 00:16:46,972 --> 00:16:48,974  And he looked                   at the WCW deal,                 394 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:51,710    and contemplated us having       at least a couple of years    395 00:16:51,777 --> 00:16:54,613    of two hours of prime time    on Monday night,                 396 00:16:54,646 --> 00:16:56,348 two hours of prime time            on Thursday night,             397 00:16:56,382 --> 00:16:59,385   and Kellner didn't want that     beachfront property            398 00:16:59,451 --> 00:17:01,520    to be dedicated to               wrestling content.            399 00:17:01,553 --> 00:17:03,122 He wanted that                     prime time schedule            400 00:17:03,155 --> 00:17:05,290  for other programming.          401 00:17:05,324 --> 00:17:07,459   The cold, hard truth           is that WCW was                  402 00:17:07,493 --> 00:17:09,962    completely reliant             on television.                  403 00:17:09,995 --> 00:17:11,897    So much so in fact               that Eric Bischoff            404 00:17:11,964 --> 00:17:14,533  famously quipped that            without television the          405 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:17,636    company was worth              20 bucks, if anything.          406 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:19,571    So, at that point,               when you take the             407 00:17:19,638 --> 00:17:22,808   television distribution off       the table, you're taking      408 00:17:22,841 --> 00:17:25,377    90% of the revenue              out of the equation.           409 00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:27,146 The deal was not                 worth it to us.                  410 00:17:27,179 --> 00:17:29,415  It effectively                  killed the deal.                 411 00:17:29,481 --> 00:17:31,350    I was devastated.             412 00:17:31,383 --> 00:17:34,520    ♪                             413 00:17:34,553 --> 00:17:36,221  What am I doing here?           414 00:17:36,255 --> 00:17:37,723   Stu Snyder.                    415 00:17:37,756 --> 00:17:39,758    Ready, go.                    Action.                          416 00:17:39,825 --> 00:17:40,859    ♪                             417 00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:43,495   Growing up,                       I loved wrestling.            418 00:17:43,529 --> 00:17:45,164   I lived in New York.           419 00:17:45,197 --> 00:17:48,233   I remember going to Madison      Square Garden once a month.    420 00:17:48,267 --> 00:17:50,035    Bruno Sammartino.             421 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:52,271   Ivan Putski,                   Gorilla Monsoon,                 422 00:17:52,337 --> 00:17:53,705   George "The Animal" Steele.    423 00:17:53,739 --> 00:17:56,075  I can go on.                       I enjoyed it, I loved it.     424 00:17:56,108 --> 00:17:58,077   It's a core element               of my childhood.              425 00:17:58,110 --> 00:18:01,580 I joined Turner                   Broadcasting in 1993.           426 00:18:01,613 --> 00:18:04,883 My responsibility was to         come onboard and head up         427 00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:07,119  the unit called Turner            Home Entertainment.            428 00:18:07,186 --> 00:18:10,355    And then, I left,             did a few other things,          429 00:18:10,389 --> 00:18:12,424    including becoming               the president and             430 00:18:12,458 --> 00:18:16,128    chief operating officer of       WWF Entertainment.            431 00:18:16,195 --> 00:18:18,430  The first thing I was            looking to do was to            432 00:18:18,464 --> 00:18:20,232 keep growing the                  core business.                  433 00:18:20,265 --> 00:18:23,202  To look for new opportunities      for the company.              434 00:18:23,235 --> 00:18:26,572    I continued to read about        what was happening at WCW.    435 00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:29,074 I kept reading about the         behind the scenes angst          436 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:30,309 going on there.                  437 00:18:30,375 --> 00:18:32,144   The ratings                       weren't improving.            438 00:18:32,211 --> 00:18:33,545   What's gonna                     happen here?                   439 00:18:33,579 --> 00:18:34,780  Are they gonna                  stick with this?                 440 00:18:34,813 --> 00:18:36,248    Are they not gonna             stick with it?                  441 00:18:36,281 --> 00:18:38,650  And then what I recall          is picking up the phone,         442 00:18:38,717 --> 00:18:40,719  and calling Brad and,              you know,                     443 00:18:40,752 --> 00:18:42,254 just checking in                  first of all,                   444 00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:44,890 'cause we've known each            other for a long, long time.   445 00:18:44,923 --> 00:18:47,326  I keep reading about               this stuff. Are you okay?     446 00:18:47,392 --> 00:18:49,661    And, you know, he'd share     with me some of                  447 00:18:49,728 --> 00:18:51,263 the angst he was                  going through.                  448 00:18:51,296 --> 00:18:53,665   I may have said something to      the effect of, "Hey, look,    449 00:18:53,732 --> 00:18:56,268 if there's ever a reason         to have a conversation,          450 00:18:56,301 --> 00:18:58,570   I think we might be             interested."                    451 00:18:58,604 --> 00:19:00,939 We were aware that there           was another player.            452 00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:03,108 It didn't factor                  into anything.                  453 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:04,443    I didn't know their deal,     454 00:19:04,476 --> 00:19:05,644   I didn't know what               they were offering.            455 00:19:05,677 --> 00:19:07,079  Knew nothing.                   456 00:19:07,112 --> 00:19:09,748   Internally at WWF,             we had made a decision,          457 00:19:09,781 --> 00:19:14,186   we thought if we could do a      transaction to acquire WCW,    458 00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:17,789   we were going to work really    hard to get that done.          459 00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:19,958  On Friday March 23rd,           460 00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:22,327    the WWF announces                the unthinkable,              461 00:19:22,361 --> 00:19:26,165  that it has purchased            its competition, WCW.           462 00:19:26,198 --> 00:19:28,300    ♪                             463 00:19:33,372 --> 00:19:35,274   On March 26th, 2001,           464 00:19:35,307 --> 00:19:38,043    the final episode             of WCW Nitro is                  465 00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:40,679   broadcast live from              Panama City Beach, Florida.    466 00:19:40,712 --> 00:19:42,381    What is this for?             467 00:19:44,883 --> 00:19:46,718    Last two days, oh.            468 00:19:46,785 --> 00:19:49,621    ♪                             469 00:19:49,655 --> 00:19:53,458  [Indistinct television]         470 00:19:53,492 --> 00:19:57,996    ♪                             471 00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:00,332   It's great.                    472 00:20:00,365 --> 00:20:03,468    ♪                             473 00:20:03,502 --> 00:20:05,537    Get the fuck out of here.     474 00:20:05,571 --> 00:20:08,507  Do you know anything?           What's going on tonight?         475 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:13,912   -Holy shit.                        -What is that all about?     476 00:20:13,979 --> 00:20:16,848    ♪                             477 00:20:16,882 --> 00:20:18,584   Panama City, Florida.          478 00:20:19,851 --> 00:20:22,521   Wow, that's big time,              brother.                     479 00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:24,089    Here we go, in 5...           480 00:20:24,156 --> 00:20:26,191   4...                           481 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,093    ♪                             482 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,930  You had Vince McMahon            starting the show, on camera.   483 00:20:31,997 --> 00:20:34,233  It's hard to overstate             just how shocking             484 00:20:34,266 --> 00:20:35,701  that was at the time.           485 00:20:35,734 --> 00:20:38,270  Imagine that.                   486 00:20:38,337 --> 00:20:41,773    Me, Vince McMahon.            487 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,609  Imagine that.                   488 00:20:43,675 --> 00:20:47,913  Here I am on                    WCW television.                  489 00:20:47,946 --> 00:20:50,282   How can that happen?           490 00:20:50,349 --> 00:20:52,184 Well, there's only way.          491 00:20:52,217 --> 00:20:55,787  You see, it was just a           matter of time before           492 00:20:55,854 --> 00:20:58,357    I, Vince McMahon,             493 00:20:58,390 --> 00:21:00,592  bought my competition.          494 00:21:00,626 --> 00:21:02,094  That's right.                   495 00:21:02,127 --> 00:21:03,795 I own...                         496 00:21:03,862 --> 00:21:05,597   WCW.                           497 00:21:05,631 --> 00:21:09,268    Therefore, in its                final broadcast,              498 00:21:09,301 --> 00:21:11,236 tonight on TNT,                  499 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:13,438  I have the opportunity            to address-                    500 00:21:13,472 --> 00:21:17,242 What is the fate of WCW?         501 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,945   Because the fate...            502 00:21:19,978 --> 00:21:24,283 the very fate of WCW...          503 00:21:24,316 --> 00:21:27,219 is in my hands.                  504 00:21:27,252 --> 00:21:29,921    [Audience shouting              & cheering]                    505 00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:31,890    We thought we were coming       to work like a regular day.    506 00:21:31,923 --> 00:21:34,626 And no one knew                     until that night.             507 00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:37,562   No one knew.                   508 00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:40,098    We saw Vince come             up on the tron.                  509 00:21:40,132 --> 00:21:42,067  No matter how you look           at it, at that point,           510 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:44,503   you know, no matter              how it's spread...             511 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:46,104    they win the war.             512 00:21:46,138 --> 00:21:49,341  When WWE acquired WCW,          513 00:21:49,408 --> 00:21:51,343 it felt like the                  end of an era.                  514 00:21:51,410 --> 00:21:52,944    It sucked.                    515 00:21:52,978 --> 00:21:55,981  The 800-pound gorilla            of the room had won.            516 00:21:56,014 --> 00:21:58,150  Had no idea what Vince             would do with it.             517 00:21:58,183 --> 00:22:01,153   I didn't know if it was more   advantageous for him to          518 00:22:01,186 --> 00:22:03,822    buy it and keep it afloat,    519 00:22:03,855 --> 00:22:06,925  and then have                   the competition.                 520 00:22:06,958 --> 00:22:08,960  Or destroy it.                  521 00:22:08,994 --> 00:22:12,698   So, the fear of the unknown       is pretty, pretty heavy.      522 00:22:12,764 --> 00:22:15,701 There was a lot sadness             and a lot of uncertainty.     523 00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:19,538    Who they were gonna hire,        who they were gonna cut.      524 00:22:19,604 --> 00:22:21,006   [Off-screen] We don't really    know what's going on.           525 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:22,808   People are happy and             sad at the same time.          526 00:22:22,841 --> 00:22:24,309   They don't know why.           527 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:26,678    I don't think you want my     real feelings about it,          528 00:22:26,712 --> 00:22:28,347 'cause it ain't pretty.          529 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:30,115  It was very emotional.          530 00:22:30,148 --> 00:22:31,383    I remember                    Dusty was there,                 531 00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:33,885    so I was sticking               pretty close to him.           532 00:22:33,952 --> 00:22:35,854  There were WWF                     signs up,                     533 00:22:35,887 --> 00:22:37,789 which was really weird.          534 00:22:37,823 --> 00:22:39,124 You know, 'cause there's         always signs like on the         535 00:22:39,157 --> 00:22:40,692   dressing room doors,             you know, wherever,            536 00:22:40,726 --> 00:22:42,294  and you were                     seeing "WWF".                   537 00:22:42,327 --> 00:22:44,896 I mean,                            it felt like a slap.           538 00:22:44,963 --> 00:22:47,032 I remember Shane McMahon          coming in and,                  539 00:22:47,065 --> 00:22:49,301    and he had like a little       brief meeting with everybody.   540 00:22:49,334 --> 00:22:51,236 And we get told that the          company's been sold to          541 00:22:51,303 --> 00:22:53,338 the WWE,                           and tonight,                   542 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:55,374    everybody's gonna                find out about it.            543 00:22:55,407 --> 00:22:58,744   And a lot of guys were like,    "Oh, my god."                   544 00:22:58,810 --> 00:23:00,412 As I was seeing,                    you know,                     545 00:23:00,479 --> 00:23:03,181    the wrestlers and             performers backstage...          546 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:05,016    you know, shoulders might        have been slumped             547 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:06,651    before they walked              through the curtain,           548 00:23:06,685 --> 00:23:08,053    but then when they            walked through,                  549 00:23:08,086 --> 00:23:10,088  it's back to                      business as normal.            550 00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:12,057 And then when they came          back after their match,          551 00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:14,192 or segment, or whatever,         it's back to...                  552 00:23:14,226 --> 00:23:16,428    "What's going on?              What's gonna happen?"           553 00:23:16,495 --> 00:23:18,997    Let's not lose sight of the      fact this is the last Nitro   554 00:23:19,030 --> 00:23:22,267    on the Turner Network, and      we're going out with a bang!   555 00:23:22,334 --> 00:23:24,903 Scott Steiner and I, we,         ah, had a conversation.          556 00:23:24,936 --> 00:23:26,872 And Scott goes,                  "Bro, you know,                  557 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:28,106    what do you think              they're gonna do, man?          558 00:23:28,173 --> 00:23:29,608    What do you think                they're gonna do?"            559 00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:31,676   And I look at Scott,           and I go, "Bro,                  560 00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:33,945  we was                          auditioning that night."         561 00:23:34,012 --> 00:23:35,213    Booker T,                        the cover!                    562 00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:37,215  [Indistinct commentary]         563 00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:38,917   Oh! And he nailed it!          564 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:40,619  Everyone was                      working that night,            565 00:23:40,685 --> 00:23:42,521 so we went out                      and we rocked it.             566 00:23:42,554 --> 00:23:44,589   [Indistinct shouting             commentary]                    567 00:23:44,623 --> 00:23:47,926     And 1, 2- could it be it?       Yes, it is!  Yeah!            568 00:23:47,959 --> 00:23:49,528    Booker T!                       [Match bell ringing]           569 00:23:49,561 --> 00:23:51,430  I didn't know I was gonna win     the world title that night,    570 00:23:51,463 --> 00:23:53,932   but then when I did              find that out, I go,           571 00:23:53,965 --> 00:23:56,468 "Oh, yeah, man. I got a             chip in the game.             572 00:23:56,535 --> 00:24:00,238  They got eyes on me,"              you know, so I was, ah...     573 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:03,241  I was really excited.           574 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:05,444  I was probably perhaps            one of the only guys           575 00:24:05,477 --> 00:24:08,046 that was excited though.         576 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:09,781 [Nash] I mean,                    it was sad, you know.           577 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:12,217   It was, it wasn't even sad,       it was pathetic.              578 00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:16,388  Because fucking people            actually showed up.            579 00:24:16,421 --> 00:24:20,492  "Hey! You guys want to            be on the Titanic?"            580 00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:24,329    Nah. Good.                    581 00:24:24,396 --> 00:24:26,164  I'll sit and watch the             fucking thing sink            582 00:24:26,231 --> 00:24:27,999  from my fucking house.          583 00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:29,835 [Eric] I didn't watch it           as it happened live.           584 00:24:29,901 --> 00:24:31,670   I feel bad for the             talent that were there.          585 00:24:31,736 --> 00:24:33,638  I feel bad for the production    staff that were there           586 00:24:33,672 --> 00:24:35,740    that didn't see it coming,      had no idea                    587 00:24:35,774 --> 00:24:37,676    what their futures               were going to be.             588 00:24:37,742 --> 00:24:41,913   It's a big life change, but      as far as the brand, itself,   589 00:24:41,947 --> 00:24:44,916  I walked away from it.             I no longer cared.            590 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:46,485     It's gonna be an                 emotional thing.             591 00:24:46,518 --> 00:24:48,086     You see a lot of                 production guys,             592 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,688   a lot of people with cameras     taking pictures of the guys    593 00:24:49,754 --> 00:24:53,291   and, to me, I look at it as       the day you left college,     594 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:55,360    and guys you might             not see again.                  595 00:24:55,427 --> 00:24:58,830 But this is a tight-knit          group of guys we have.          596 00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:01,633   Like one of the camera guys,      and what a sweetheart guy.    597 00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:04,703  He'd been working for              the company for 27 years.     598 00:25:04,769 --> 00:25:07,205  All of those people...          599 00:25:07,272 --> 00:25:09,774  lost their livelihood.          600 00:25:09,808 --> 00:25:13,345   And that's why I say           fuck you, Jamie Kellner.         601 00:25:13,378 --> 00:25:14,846  I was concerned about            a lot of people that            602 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,315 just couldn't walk into             a job so easily.              603 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:19,684    Our jobs are so different.    604 00:25:19,718 --> 00:25:21,486   It's not a factory.            605 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,321   We don't do the same           thing every day.                 606 00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:25,891  We're a combination of           a circus and the army.          607 00:25:25,957 --> 00:25:28,627   And, to get that good at it,    we had to have                  608 00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:30,495   the right people in               the right places.             609 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,864   And, the way you got              to that point was             610 00:25:32,898 --> 00:25:35,033    the trust of one another.     611 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:39,738    ♪                             612 00:25:39,804 --> 00:25:43,174    ♪                             613 00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:46,077 And now you can't do it             together anymore.             614 00:25:46,144 --> 00:25:47,312    ♪                             615 00:25:47,345 --> 00:25:49,848    Everybody was in a              bad space. You know,           616 00:25:49,881 --> 00:25:51,316    a lot of them didn't know        what they were gonna do.      617 00:25:51,349 --> 00:25:53,985  But, there is a time,            you know, you gotta...          618 00:25:54,019 --> 00:25:55,820    you know,                       you gotta let it go.           619 00:25:55,854 --> 00:25:59,925  But in this business,             it's a little bit different.   620 00:25:59,991 --> 00:26:01,860 What was really                   weird to me,                    621 00:26:01,893 --> 00:26:04,262    this multimillion             dollar company                   622 00:26:04,329 --> 00:26:08,166 was sold to WWE                     for like nothing.             623 00:26:08,199 --> 00:26:09,834   I'm not saying that              there was anything             624 00:26:09,868 --> 00:26:12,103  spooky kooky                    going on there.                  625 00:26:12,170 --> 00:26:14,272   But, I have                     my suspicions.                  626 00:26:14,339 --> 00:26:16,341    ♪ [Bell chiming] ♪            627 00:26:20,845 --> 00:26:25,283    I own WCW!                     I own the WWF!                  628 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:28,019  And you will treat me            with respect!                   629 00:26:28,053 --> 00:26:30,221 [Booing]                         630 00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:33,358    ♪                             631 00:26:33,391 --> 00:26:36,127 When you think about the          final purchase price,           632 00:26:36,194 --> 00:26:38,229  we're talking about a           company that at its peak         633 00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:40,899  was generating in the             neighborhood of $200 million   634 00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:44,402    a year, and a huge              part of pop culture,           635 00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:46,972   that gets sold for a little     over 4 million bucks.           636 00:26:47,038 --> 00:26:48,306  I always thought that,          637 00:26:48,373 --> 00:26:50,475  when I heard the price             of what they paid for WCW,    638 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:52,277   it was an inside job            of some sort.                   639 00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:54,079   [Clicking film reel]           640 00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:56,114  Somebody filled their             pockets by making that deal    641 00:26:56,147 --> 00:26:57,882  for cheaply as it was.          642 00:26:57,916 --> 00:26:59,918  Maybe there's                    an envelope...                  643 00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:02,153 pushed across the desk.          644 00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:06,224   Maybe you got influence with      the guy that's selling it.    645 00:27:06,257 --> 00:27:09,160    Look, there's some              murky circumstances.           646 00:27:09,227 --> 00:27:12,063   Stu Snyder was an executive      at Turner Broadcasting, and,   647 00:27:12,097 --> 00:27:14,799   oh, by the way, Stu Snyder,      after the fact just            648 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:19,004  happens to land a plum          executive role with WWE.         649 00:27:19,070 --> 00:27:21,006    Oh, my god,                       that's, that's Bob Ryder!    650 00:27:21,072 --> 00:27:23,475     That's Bob Ryder              from WCW.com!                   651 00:27:23,508 --> 00:27:25,777     Bob, run!                      Run!                           652 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:29,347 Bob Ryder, he was one of            the hosts on shows            653 00:27:29,414 --> 00:27:31,750   that were broadcast             over WCW.com.                   654 00:27:31,783 --> 00:27:34,352    So, in the summer              following the                   655 00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:37,789    sale of WCW being              purchased by the WWF,           656 00:27:37,822 --> 00:27:41,660   Bob Ryder puts out a widely       disseminated post online,     657 00:27:41,693 --> 00:27:43,428    essentially alleging that     there had been                   658 00:27:43,461 --> 00:27:45,096  a conspiracy at play.           659 00:27:45,130 --> 00:27:46,431    [Eric] Bob Ryder,                he was a good man,            660 00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:47,799    and a good friend.            661 00:27:47,832 --> 00:27:50,702 And I know that Bob had            written about a theory that    662 00:27:50,769 --> 00:27:56,107  Brad Siegel helped facilitate   the actual sale to WWE           663 00:27:56,141 --> 00:27:59,944   by convincing Jamie Kellner      to take the                    664 00:27:59,978 --> 00:28:03,815   distribution of programming       out of the deal.              665 00:28:03,848 --> 00:28:07,452   Bob's theory was Brad Siegel    really didn't want WCW          666 00:28:07,485 --> 00:28:09,621    as a part of the                 Turner portfolio,             667 00:28:09,654 --> 00:28:12,457   and this was                     Brad Siegel's way of           668 00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:15,527   using Jamie Kellner               to kill the deal.             669 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,530  [Guy] The conspiracy theory is   really something like           670 00:28:18,563 --> 00:28:20,665   out of a wrestling             storyline, essentially.          671 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:23,802    There was a plot initiated       by Brad Siegel and            672 00:28:23,835 --> 00:28:27,639 Stu Snyder to clear the            path for it to have            673 00:28:27,672 --> 00:28:29,808 a quick sale to the WWF.         674 00:28:29,841 --> 00:28:32,744   Stu Snyder at that time was       the president of the WWF,     675 00:28:32,811 --> 00:28:34,646 he had previously worked         at Turner Broadcasting,          676 00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:36,581    had a relationship               with Brad Siegel.             677 00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:39,551  And so, the allegation          was that                         678 00:28:39,584 --> 00:28:41,886    there were covert              talks between the two,          679 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,389 and the primary piece of          evidence was the fact           680 00:28:44,422 --> 00:28:47,759    that WCW was sold              for 4.3 million bucks.          681 00:28:47,826 --> 00:28:49,260  I don't know                       that that's true.             682 00:28:49,327 --> 00:28:51,563    It is a conspiracy theory.    683 00:28:51,596 --> 00:28:54,999 Unfortunately, there are            enough questions,             684 00:28:55,033 --> 00:28:57,168 and questionable                  relationships,                  685 00:28:57,202 --> 00:29:00,505  that lend interest in           a conspiracy like that.          686 00:29:09,047 --> 00:29:10,782    No. Well,                      first of all, it was-           687 00:29:10,849 --> 00:29:14,552 I mean, we'd known each             other our entire careers.     688 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:16,387 I mean, the fact                 that Stu Snyder                  689 00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:19,724 was running WWE and was          690 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,627  a likely buyer for WCW          691 00:29:22,694 --> 00:29:24,963  is purely coincidence.          692 00:29:30,802 --> 00:29:32,470   No.                            693 00:29:32,537 --> 00:29:34,539 It's as simple as that.          694 00:29:34,572 --> 00:29:38,543  My understanding is that Brad    reported up to Jamie Kellner,   695 00:29:38,576 --> 00:29:41,479   and that Jamie made              the decision, said,            696 00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:44,749   "I don't want it on our, on      our air," and canceled it.     697 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,751 [Guy] If you think about            how serious these             698 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,419   particular allegations are,       and the fact that             699 00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:51,589    they would lead to            potential FCC violations         700 00:29:51,623 --> 00:29:54,292 and have serious                 professional and                 701 00:29:54,325 --> 00:29:56,461  personal consequences           for all people involved,         702 00:29:56,494 --> 00:29:58,663 it's quite the                   audacious plot,                  703 00:29:58,730 --> 00:30:00,965 given the high profile              nature of the people that     704 00:30:00,999 --> 00:30:04,569    we're talking about and,        what they stood to lose if,    705 00:30:04,602 --> 00:30:06,070  eventually, they would            be convicted                   706 00:30:06,104 --> 00:30:08,907  essentially of                    corporate espionage.           707 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:12,277 I'm not saying I'm 100%             convinced that Stu Snyder     708 00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:16,681   was part of an orchestration   to make sure WCW                 709 00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:19,584   got sold for nickels            on the dollar.                  710 00:30:19,617 --> 00:30:21,653    I'm not suggesting               that I know that.             711 00:30:21,686 --> 00:30:23,588   I just lean in that               direction because             712 00:30:23,621 --> 00:30:26,524  I don't believe in the           number of coincidences          713 00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:28,793    that surround this               entire situation.             714 00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:30,628 I'm just not buying it.          715 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:32,630 I understand... gossip.          716 00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:34,499   I understand rumor.            717 00:30:34,532 --> 00:30:37,135 But, it's easy to sit on            the sidelines and             718 00:30:37,168 --> 00:30:40,972    not really understand the       economics of the businesses    719 00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,807   to say what                      something is worth.            720 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:46,344 If there was a deal out          there worth $60 million,         721 00:30:46,377 --> 00:30:49,113 I can guarantee you as           I'm sitting here today,          722 00:30:49,147 --> 00:30:52,784  the Turner executives           would have made a deal.          723 00:30:52,817 --> 00:30:54,152  We wanted to sell it.           724 00:30:54,185 --> 00:30:56,554    When we sold it,                 that's what it was worth.     725 00:30:56,621 --> 00:31:00,825   My regret is that when the       ratings started to plummet,    726 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:03,895    we could not find                the right story,              727 00:31:03,962 --> 00:31:08,333    the right players in that        story to turn it around.      728 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:10,001   You know, that's a               big regret of mine.            729 00:31:10,034 --> 00:31:11,402  We weren't successful.          730 00:31:11,469 --> 00:31:13,071 Sometimes that happens.          731 00:31:13,137 --> 00:31:15,540 You can't always                  be successful.                  732 00:31:15,573 --> 00:31:18,576 I feel a responsibility          for it because                   733 00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:20,979  I clearly was not the              person to do it.              734 00:31:21,012 --> 00:31:23,481    I didn't know the              business and                    735 00:31:23,514 --> 00:31:26,417    the story well enough to,       to write it myself.            736 00:31:26,484 --> 00:31:27,886    I'm not a writer.             737 00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:29,754   So, yeah, I'm really           sad about that,                  738 00:31:29,821 --> 00:31:32,557   and regret it wasn't             a different outcome.           739 00:31:36,661 --> 00:31:38,563  In my opinion,                  740 00:31:38,596 --> 00:31:41,900   without a strong advocate...   741 00:31:41,933 --> 00:31:45,069   who really believed               in the business,              742 00:31:45,103 --> 00:31:46,771   it would have been              tough to exist there,           743 00:31:46,838 --> 00:31:48,106  with everything else,           744 00:31:48,172 --> 00:31:50,541 their challenges                  as a company.                   745 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:52,043    But that world had passed.    746 00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:55,413 Ted was that person who          was its chief advocate.          747 00:31:55,446 --> 00:31:57,248   In the new AOL Time Warner,    748 00:31:57,282 --> 00:31:58,383   without that person,           749 00:31:58,416 --> 00:32:00,418 I don't know how                    it succeeds there.            750 00:32:00,451 --> 00:32:02,720   And, for good or for worse,      the one thing that             751 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:04,856   all the talent knew,           752 00:32:04,889 --> 00:32:07,392   they knew where the              buck stopped at WWF.           753 00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:09,093  It was Vince.                   754 00:32:09,127 --> 00:32:10,929 You were either in line             or you were out.              755 00:32:10,962 --> 00:32:13,231 That's how Vince                 ran that place.                  756 00:32:13,264 --> 00:32:15,066 That place was a                 different story,                 757 00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:16,935    a different time,             different era.                   758 00:32:16,968 --> 00:32:19,570   So, unless you had somebody     like that who can go,           759 00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:21,539   "This is the way it's gonna     run and I have the support of   760 00:32:21,572 --> 00:32:25,977   corporate to leave it alone       and let me do my thing,"      761 00:32:26,044 --> 00:32:27,946  I think it would have              been challenging.             762 00:32:27,979 --> 00:32:30,281  It's been proven that             it was challenging.            763 00:32:30,315 --> 00:32:31,983    ♪                             764 00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:41,993    Let me be clear:                 we weren't looking at all     765 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:43,962 to buy something                   and kill it.                   766 00:32:43,995 --> 00:32:45,663    This brand is still good.     767 00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:48,399   It's still relevant,           to an audience.                  768 00:32:48,433 --> 00:32:51,302 We're gonna figure out,          how do we keep it alive?         769 00:32:51,336 --> 00:32:54,172   And maybe over time             it comes back                   770 00:32:54,238 --> 00:32:56,007   as a separate show.            771 00:32:56,074 --> 00:32:58,109  In my head, I saw this             great rivalry that            772 00:32:58,142 --> 00:33:00,178   was under one roof.            773 00:33:00,244 --> 00:33:01,512    ♪                             774 00:33:01,579 --> 00:33:03,314   First of all, it all started   with the famous                  775 00:33:03,348 --> 00:33:07,952 Shane McMahon showing up            on WCW, on Nitro.             776 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:11,589    And proclaiming, you know,      the storyline of, basically,   777 00:33:11,622 --> 00:33:13,992 Vince was gonna buy WCW,          but- [claps]-                   778 00:33:14,025 --> 00:33:16,194  he snagged it                    out from him.                   779 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:18,196 [Shane]                           That's right!                   780 00:33:18,262 --> 00:33:22,934  I now own WCW!                  781 00:33:22,967 --> 00:33:24,702    I remember sitting down in       my hotel room and             782 00:33:24,769 --> 00:33:28,272  writing down all the wrestlers    who I had hoped to wrestle-    783 00:33:28,306 --> 00:33:30,541    Goldberg,                      Sting, Savage.                  784 00:33:30,608 --> 00:33:32,810  Everybody in the NWO.            It's like, I remember           785 00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:35,013  writing everybody down            and going to Vince,            786 00:33:35,046 --> 00:33:36,447    and saying, "Hey,                this might be a good idea.    787 00:33:36,481 --> 00:33:37,815 What about this guy, and         this guy, and this guy,          788 00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:39,784  and this guy?                    Let's bring them in."           789 00:33:39,817 --> 00:33:41,986 [Eric] There was so much          speculation as to how,          790 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:43,621  how it would all work.          791 00:33:43,654 --> 00:33:45,390    What people don't realize      is that when                    792 00:33:45,456 --> 00:33:47,525    WWE acquired WCW,             793 00:33:47,558 --> 00:33:49,861    the assets of WCW,             the contracts                   794 00:33:49,894 --> 00:33:51,629   weren't really part               of the equation.              795 00:33:51,662 --> 00:33:53,364  It wasn't like all of             the talent that was            796 00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:56,968   under contract automatically     came to WWF.                   797 00:33:57,001 --> 00:33:59,337    At least not the big names     that mattered.                  798 00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:02,040 Some of those people had         quite a bit of time left         799 00:34:02,073 --> 00:34:04,542   on their contracts and they      were gonna get paid anyway.    800 00:34:04,575 --> 00:34:06,411   I knew that at the time guys    were getting 50 cents           801 00:34:06,477 --> 00:34:08,746  on the dollar on their            existing contracts.            802 00:34:08,813 --> 00:34:11,082  [Laughs] That was not             happening with me.             803 00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:13,084  I'm not gonna give in.            I'm not gonna do it.           804 00:34:13,151 --> 00:34:14,652 So, if I had to sit out             for three years,              805 00:34:14,685 --> 00:34:16,320    I sat out for three years.    806 00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:19,157   Not everybody wanted            to go to work for WWE.          807 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:21,859  You didn't have Sting,             you didn't have Lex Luger,    808 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:23,494    you didn't have Goldberg.     809 00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:26,230 What do you really have?         810 00:34:26,264 --> 00:34:29,734   I still had like over a year     left on my contract.           811 00:34:29,767 --> 00:34:32,003 They offered me                   a 50% buyout,                   812 00:34:32,036 --> 00:34:34,572   and, ah, go to work              or just, you know,             813 00:34:34,605 --> 00:34:36,607 sit at home for                  the next year.                   814 00:34:36,674 --> 00:34:38,543   I said, "Nah, man,"            I said,                          815 00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:40,878 "You know, out of sight,         out of mind," you know.          816 00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:43,614  I remember Ric Flair             said a long time ago,           817 00:34:43,681 --> 00:34:46,184    "Time off is your             worst enemy." You know,          818 00:34:46,217 --> 00:34:48,052  so I was like,                     let's get-                    819 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,621 take the 50% buyout and             let's go to work.             820 00:34:50,688 --> 00:34:52,790  Wait a minute!                   What the hell?                  821 00:34:52,857 --> 00:34:55,293  [Fans shouting]                 822 00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,361   Ah! Booker T!                  823 00:34:57,395 --> 00:35:00,565  He's the WW...                   WCW champion!                   824 00:35:00,598 --> 00:35:02,633 Back then it was a test.         825 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:03,801    Let's throw these             guys out here,                   826 00:35:03,868 --> 00:35:05,303  see how good                    they really are                  827 00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:08,773   compared to                     the WWE guys.                   828 00:35:08,806 --> 00:35:12,810   Shane and I decided            to join forces.                  829 00:35:12,877 --> 00:35:15,113    Oh, the invasion storyline       was supposed to be            830 00:35:15,146 --> 00:35:18,549    the best that WCW               had to offer versus            831 00:35:18,583 --> 00:35:21,452  the best that                      WWE had to offer.             832 00:35:21,486 --> 00:35:24,555   But, we were in no shape to      actually be able to really,    833 00:35:24,589 --> 00:35:27,258   really pull off an invasion      mainly just because            834 00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:29,260  we did not have enough           star power to                   835 00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:32,396 really, really get that           thing off the ground.           836 00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:36,400    And they never really did        a WCW-WWE feud correctly,     837 00:35:36,434 --> 00:35:39,337    and I think that was a big       mistake by Vince McMahon.     838 00:35:39,403 --> 00:35:42,240 I think he could've done            some really cool match-ups    839 00:35:42,273 --> 00:35:44,475   and some really cool things.   840 00:35:44,509 --> 00:35:48,579    -Hey, yo.                       -[Cheering]                    841 00:35:48,613 --> 00:35:50,348  They were gonna write           842 00:35:50,414 --> 00:35:52,350 the history that                  they wanted to create,          843 00:35:52,416 --> 00:35:54,285  and no matter                    how you looked at it,           844 00:35:54,318 --> 00:35:57,255 we were the confederate             soldiers going to work for    845 00:35:57,288 --> 00:35:59,524  the union, and if you            thought that you were           846 00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:03,161    gonna go over one of their      top guys, bullshit.            847 00:36:03,194 --> 00:36:06,631   They brought us in               under the guise of,            848 00:36:06,664 --> 00:36:08,933    "this isn't gonna              work twice".                    849 00:36:08,966 --> 00:36:10,168    I looked at Scott, I said,    850 00:36:10,201 --> 00:36:12,103 "We're gone, we're done,           we're dead."                   851 00:36:12,136 --> 00:36:13,838  [Indistinct commentary]         852 00:36:13,871 --> 00:36:16,874    I get to have the               wonderful experience           853 00:36:16,941 --> 00:36:19,110   to watch my friend,               who now has been              854 00:36:19,143 --> 00:36:21,812   sober for 11 months,           855 00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:25,316   go downstairs and just start   pounding drinks.                 856 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:27,552    And he's like, "Fuck it."     857 00:36:27,618 --> 00:36:30,221    You talk about a miserable    day in my life?                  858 00:36:30,288 --> 00:36:31,822    ♪                             859 00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:35,726    When it's the WCW,              there was no room in           860 00:36:35,793 --> 00:36:39,664   New York City for a               company like WCW.             861 00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:40,965   That's just the way               I felt about it.              862 00:36:40,998 --> 00:36:43,034    When the WWE won the war,     863 00:36:43,067 --> 00:36:45,169  not only did they want          to win the war,                  864 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:48,306 but they wanted to bury             their opposition              865 00:36:48,339 --> 00:36:50,908    and they wanted to            plant the flag.                  866 00:36:50,975 --> 00:36:54,412   And that's what they needed       to do more than anything      867 00:36:54,478 --> 00:36:57,848    to really solidify               winning that war,             868 00:36:57,882 --> 00:36:59,684   planting that flag.            869 00:36:59,717 --> 00:37:01,719    Yeah, they had to                be in, you know,              870 00:37:01,752 --> 00:37:04,889   a dominant position               to do that, yeah.             871 00:37:04,922 --> 00:37:06,724   We're back live here,            ladies and gentlemen.          872 00:37:06,757 --> 00:37:08,726   This crowd is still buzzing.   873 00:37:08,759 --> 00:37:11,329    Here comes                        Mr. McMahon back.            874 00:37:11,362 --> 00:37:14,732  He promised to name the            new general manager of Raw.   875 00:37:14,765 --> 00:37:17,101   2002, Vince McMahon              called me,                     876 00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:20,171   and while Vince was            speaking, I had already          877 00:37:20,204 --> 00:37:22,607  made up my mind that            this is my opportunity.          878 00:37:22,673 --> 00:37:24,709   Allow me to                    introduce you to                 879 00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:27,178 the new general                  manager of Raw.                  880 00:37:27,211 --> 00:37:32,016   His name is                     Eric Bischoff!                  881 00:37:32,049 --> 00:37:34,352  I'm not gonna say that          everybody in WWE                 882 00:37:34,385 --> 00:37:36,554  was happy to                    see me show up,                  883 00:37:36,587 --> 00:37:37,855  but the people                   that mattered                   884 00:37:37,888 --> 00:37:40,258  could not have made me             feel more at home.            885 00:37:40,291 --> 00:37:42,526  [The Rock] I like Eric a lot,     we're good buddies.            886 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,228 Known him for a                  very long time.                  887 00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:47,898 And, he has his bust on           the Mount Rushmore of           888 00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:49,734  professional                     wrestling executives.           889 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,936  [Eric] Everything that            went wrong-                    890 00:37:51,969 --> 00:37:53,771 the Fusient sale                 falling through,                 891 00:37:53,804 --> 00:37:56,073 the fact                          that the narrative is,          892 00:37:56,107 --> 00:37:59,477  "Eric Bischoff                   cratered WCW"-                  893 00:37:59,543 --> 00:38:01,879 I had an opportunity to          write the last chapter           894 00:38:01,912 --> 00:38:03,114   of my story.                   895 00:38:03,147 --> 00:38:04,448 Wait a minute...                 896 00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:05,650  What?                             What the...?                   897 00:38:05,716 --> 00:38:07,885    What the hell is going on?     What is this?                   898 00:38:07,918 --> 00:38:09,887    You know, I had been with       WWE for a few years as that    899 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,889 general manager                   character and                   900 00:38:11,922 --> 00:38:13,891   everything was going great,    and I remember getting           901 00:38:13,924 --> 00:38:15,326   the phone call from              Stephanie McMahon,             902 00:38:15,393 --> 00:38:16,761 who was head of creative          at that point.                  903 00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:17,728 She goes, "Eric,                 I don't want you                 904 00:38:17,762 --> 00:38:19,063   to take this                    the wrong way.                  905 00:38:19,096 --> 00:38:20,765 You've done a great job.         906 00:38:20,798 --> 00:38:22,566  But we're gonna go in           a different direction."          907 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,335  Eric Bischoff                   908 00:38:24,402 --> 00:38:27,171   has abused his power            for too long.                   909 00:38:27,238 --> 00:38:30,474  John Cena was going to             hit me with his finish and    910 00:38:30,508 --> 00:38:32,310 drag me out of the ring,            and John Cena was             911 00:38:32,343 --> 00:38:34,278  gonna throw me in the           back of a garbage truck,         912 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,614    and I was gonna be            hauled out of the arena.         913 00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:40,351    And I very seldom               questioned creative,           914 00:38:40,418 --> 00:38:41,819   but I went to Vince,              and said,                     915 00:38:41,852 --> 00:38:43,854    "It doesn't make any sense    for John Cena to do it.          916 00:38:43,921 --> 00:38:46,357   It makes more sense              for you to do it."             917 00:38:46,424 --> 00:38:47,858 And I thought,                    if I'm gonna do this,           918 00:38:47,925 --> 00:38:49,527  I'm gonna have                   fun doing it.                   919 00:38:49,593 --> 00:38:51,462  I'm gonna make                  this fun for me.                 920 00:38:51,495 --> 00:38:53,297 And I did, and I                   had a blast.                   921 00:38:53,331 --> 00:38:56,667    And I got to live a dream       and rewrite my own chapter,    922 00:38:56,701 --> 00:38:58,135 and I loved it,                    every minute of it.            923 00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:00,171   There's not a second             of it that I regret.           924 00:39:09,647 --> 00:39:11,849   Ooh.                              [Laughing]                    925 00:39:11,882 --> 00:39:15,286 Who killed WCW?                  926 00:39:15,319 --> 00:39:17,855 I think it was                      Turner corporate.             927 00:39:17,888 --> 00:39:21,125 And, some of the people           within the booking committees.  928 00:39:21,158 --> 00:39:23,494 AOL Time Warner.                 The executives,                  929 00:39:23,527 --> 00:39:27,031  they were embarrassed             by goofy wrestling.            930 00:39:27,064 --> 00:39:29,700 The guys in Turner that            didn't want us and             931 00:39:29,734 --> 00:39:33,404 didn't like us, and the           top guys not letting            932 00:39:33,471 --> 00:39:36,374    the mid-card guys               interact with them.            933 00:39:36,407 --> 00:39:38,676    WCW killed itself.            934 00:39:38,709 --> 00:39:40,578  The cast of characters          935 00:39:40,644 --> 00:39:43,647  that was WCW,                     killed WCW.                    936 00:39:43,681 --> 00:39:46,684   It didn't function              as a team any longer.           937 00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:50,721   It functioned as a bunch of       self-seeking individuals.     938 00:39:50,755 --> 00:39:54,658  I've never see anybody           that was that high up           939 00:39:54,692 --> 00:39:58,662  in the food chain take            less responsibility.           940 00:39:58,696 --> 00:40:01,365 This is what killed WCW.         941 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:02,933    They were fighting               within themselves.            942 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,603   They were eating their own.      The wolves.                    943 00:40:05,669 --> 00:40:07,438 Who killed WCW?                   That's easy.                    944 00:40:07,505 --> 00:40:09,240  Turner Sports.                  945 00:40:09,273 --> 00:40:11,609 It would have to be the            person with the check book.    946 00:40:11,675 --> 00:40:14,211   It would have to be            Eric Bischoff.                   947 00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:17,748   Vince Russo, Eric Bischoff-       two guys that had             948 00:40:17,782 --> 00:40:20,117  zero knowledge about             how to run wrestling,           949 00:40:20,184 --> 00:40:22,386 and they put themselves             in a position to              950 00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:24,789   tell people like me              what to do.                    951 00:40:24,855 --> 00:40:28,225   And, that's                    what killed WCW.                 952 00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:29,627   As a matter of fact,            I'm gonna give myself-          953 00:40:29,693 --> 00:40:32,430   [Applause]- A round             of applause for that!           954 00:40:32,463 --> 00:40:33,864 Yes, thank you.                  955 00:40:33,898 --> 00:40:37,601    Bro, they took such a drop      from where they were           956 00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:40,237 to where it was                     when it was sold,             957 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:42,306 and so much money lost.          958 00:40:42,373 --> 00:40:44,975   I don't think anybody could      have done anything.            959 00:40:45,042 --> 00:40:49,613    So, I would say a business      decision killed WCW.           960 00:40:49,647 --> 00:40:52,049 I don't think one person          could have killed WCW           961 00:40:52,082 --> 00:40:53,751    by any stretch of                the imagination.              962 00:40:53,784 --> 00:40:54,952   There were a                      shitload of people            963 00:40:54,985 --> 00:40:57,154 who contributed                  to its downfall.                 964 00:40:57,221 --> 00:40:59,590  I think it's a                   collection of factors,          965 00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:01,892   a number of reasons            that explain its demise.         966 00:41:01,926 --> 00:41:03,327    There's plenty of               blame to go around,            967 00:41:03,394 --> 00:41:06,964    but I think ultimately it       was inevitable that it was,    968 00:41:06,997 --> 00:41:09,099   it was going                    to fall apart.                  969 00:41:09,133 --> 00:41:11,502  A good buddy of mine,             he's one of my best friends-   970 00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:14,271 Downtown Bruno-                   when I first started,           971 00:41:14,305 --> 00:41:15,840 I said, "Bruno, give me           some advice."                   972 00:41:15,906 --> 00:41:18,609   He said, "You're gonna hear       a voice one day,              973 00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:20,444    and that voice is               gonna say,                     974 00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:23,747  'Go on home,                     the big run's over'."           975 00:41:23,781 --> 00:41:27,117    WCW as an entity,              they heard that voice.          976 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:30,321    And the big run was over,       and it was fucking awesome.    977 00:41:30,354 --> 00:41:33,958    ♪                             978 00:41:33,991 --> 00:41:36,760    Wow, man!                       What a run!                    979 00:41:36,794 --> 00:41:38,462 It was always about the           performances for me.            980 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,865  It was always                   about the fans.                  981 00:41:40,931 --> 00:41:43,334   We were rock stars.            982 00:41:43,367 --> 00:41:45,936  Everywhere we                   went was packed.                 983 00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:47,438   DDP!                           984 00:41:47,471 --> 00:41:50,641 The whole WCW experience          was a hell of a ride.           985 00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,710 Period.                             [Laughing]                    986 00:41:52,776 --> 00:41:54,512 Let us remember                   the lessons,                    987 00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:57,014   learned in stride,              to build a fairer and           988 00:41:57,047 --> 00:41:59,884  more equitable future           for wrestling.                   989 00:41:59,950 --> 00:42:03,220   We've done over 350             or 60 some odd Nitros.          990 00:42:03,287 --> 00:42:04,655    You know, a lot of             these people are like,          991 00:42:04,688 --> 00:42:06,223  are like family to me.          992 00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:07,958   It was a good ride,              it was fun.                    993 00:42:07,992 --> 00:42:09,660    You were like a big family      even though                    994 00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:11,362    you're a                       dysfunctional family.           995 00:42:11,395 --> 00:42:12,830 You may not get                   along with everybody,           996 00:42:12,863 --> 00:42:15,533    but you're still gonna be        there when it comes to it.    997 00:42:15,566 --> 00:42:17,067 It was the greatest job.         998 00:42:17,134 --> 00:42:19,870    They let us be as creative      as we wanted to be.            999 00:42:19,904 --> 00:42:22,973    The first time I realized     WCW was big was                  1000 00:42:23,007 --> 00:42:25,976    my very first show            when I debuted.                  1001 00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:27,645   There was a                    palpable energy.                 1002 00:42:27,678 --> 00:42:29,980    You could feel the crowd.     1003 00:42:30,014 --> 00:42:33,050    There's something special     and something different          1004 00:42:33,083 --> 00:42:34,852  about a wrestling fan.          1005 00:42:34,885 --> 00:42:36,854   It just blew my mind to see    1006 00:42:36,887 --> 00:42:40,491 what a big deal                  WCW really was.                  1007 00:42:40,524 --> 00:42:42,026     He's got him up!             1008 00:42:42,059 --> 00:42:43,594 Those were some                   great times.                    1009 00:42:43,661 --> 00:42:45,062 Terrific times.                  1010 00:42:45,095 --> 00:42:46,997    And it came to an              abrupt end like that.           1011 00:42:47,031 --> 00:42:49,833  But hey man, all good            things come to an end.          1012 00:42:49,867 --> 00:42:52,503    ♪                             1013 00:42:52,536 --> 00:42:54,772  I still think that, you know,      when it comes down to it,     1014 00:42:54,838 --> 00:42:57,107 WCW is Eric's creation.          1015 00:42:57,174 --> 00:42:59,710   Any success they had            was with Eric.                  1016 00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:01,845    There's nobody on               this planet that can           1017 00:43:01,879 --> 00:43:03,681   look in the mirror and say,    1018 00:43:03,714 --> 00:43:06,917  "I beat Vince McMahon           1019 00:43:06,951 --> 00:43:09,219    at professional wrestling     1020 00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:11,689  for 83 weeks."                  1021 00:43:11,722 --> 00:43:14,525    It's a pretty fucking huge    accomplishment.                  1022 00:43:14,558 --> 00:43:17,861    ♪                             1023 00:43:17,895 --> 00:43:20,431  Cool.                           1024 00:43:20,464 --> 00:43:22,132 Time fucks with                    your head, you know.           1025 00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:23,534 It's...                          1026 00:43:23,567 --> 00:43:25,569  it becomes distorted.           1027 00:43:25,603 --> 00:43:27,871    My memory is more             1028 00:43:27,905 --> 00:43:30,140  like a series                   of photographs.                  1029 00:43:30,207 --> 00:43:32,476    There's bits, and pieces,       and moments                    1030 00:43:32,543 --> 00:43:34,545    that stand out in my mind,     but...                          1031 00:43:34,578 --> 00:43:36,113    as time goes on,                 they kind of just             1032 00:43:36,146 --> 00:43:37,781    all blur together.            1033 00:43:37,815 --> 00:43:39,950  When I look back at my          time during WCW-                 1034 00:43:39,984 --> 00:43:42,286  the journey, the ups,             the downs-                     1035 00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:44,788  the ride all along the          way was a rush.                  1036 00:43:44,822 --> 00:43:46,957 We were the #1 wrestling          company on television           1037 00:43:46,991 --> 00:43:49,426  in the world.                     Very proud of that.            1038 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:53,330 I was able to experience            and achieve things            1039 00:43:53,397 --> 00:43:55,132   that nobody                       thought possible.             1040 00:43:55,165 --> 00:43:56,667 And I wouldn't have had            any of this                    1041 00:43:56,734 --> 00:43:58,335  if it wasn't                    professional wrestling,          1042 00:43:58,402 --> 00:44:00,437   so I'm grateful for              every minute of it-            1043 00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:03,407    the good, the bad,             everything in between.          1044 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,009   Very lucky.                    127602

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