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So there's been a guy around.

He's definitely a creeper. It's an unusual amount of anger that he has.

When I had woken up, I was being choked.

We have demons in this house.

Did he just jump you now?

Yeah.

There was bloody handprints all over.

He can jump into the body of living people.

Yeah, sure.

What's the matter?

You're scared.

This makes me nervous.

He wants to kill them.

He wants the person dead.

My name is Amy Allen.

I see dead people.

I saw a winged creature.

I speak to dead people, and they speak to me.

This person feels like a monster.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. They are sucking the

life out of these people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

So how many bodies are we talking? And I know every person, every house has

secrets. It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never

communicate during an investigation. Until the very end.

You're not going to like this.

When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. I'm sorry. I need to take a break.

Or time to get out. It wants inside the house because it wants to kill you.

I'm here in the desert city of Victorville, California. It's a couple

outside of Los Angeles.

It's hot as hell up here, but this was a case I just had to take. A desperate

woman named Monette called, says whatever's in her house killed her

and if we can't help, it's going to kill again.

My granddaughter has been recently choked by a demon in her sleep.

Monette sounds real shook up. I'm hoping Amy and I can find a way to help her

out.

The area has an extremely heavy, sad vibe.

Like maybe there had been a great loss at some point. The problem with

that is that the living could be susceptible to feeling this

sadness, this depression.

Bad situation.

Bad situation.

So, Monette, this is a big, beautiful home you have here.

But when we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty upset.

Why don't you tell me what's going on?

We have demons in this house, and it's a very dangerous place.

Demons is pretty specific.

What makes you say it's demons? From the things I've seen and the things that

are going on in this house, I don't think it could be anything else but.

Now, you also mentioned on the phone that the paranormal killed your

Yes. Tell me about that.

His name was Thomas, and he was my really good friend and roommate, and we

bought the house together.

He died of a heart attack last year.

How old was he?

He was 81.

A man's 81 years old. Dying from a heart attack is not uncommon.

What makes you think it's paranormal related?

It's upsetting for you to talk about it?

He was my friend, and he was very healthy. It couldn't be anything else.

We loved him very much, and we miss him.

So, Monat, let's get to some basics. Who lives in the house?

Okay. That's me, and then there's my 20 -year -old granddaughter, Paige, and on

the other side is Thomas' son, Stephen.

Do me a favor. Give me a list of what you guys are experiencing here.

Well, we're seeing shadow figures.

People are being physically attacked, and we're having a lot of mood swings

fatigue, and we're all getting sick.

What kind of ailments are we talking about?

Stephen also had a heart attack.

Okay, how old is he?

He is 52.

Ooh, okay.

What else? What about you and your granddaughter?

I have broken bones in my ankle and foot right now. I have no idea how they

happened. Okay, so you didn't have an accident and all of a sudden you got

broken bones?

Exactly. What about your granddaughter?

Well, Paige right now is stable from being a victim of...

Clival chordoma cancer in her brain.

She was doing rather well and very stable.

Okay. Until we moved in here.

And now she has several medical issues.

What about the mood changes? What do you mean by that?

I get angry right away.

I used to be really happy -go -lucky.

Steven has periodic tantrums. He flies off the handle for little things.

Okay. It's just a nice house.

I mean, is it worth staying here, though?

It's all we have, and we can't afford to leave.

We're not listening to you. It's breaking my heart hearing what you guys

going through, especially with your granddaughter.

How are you holding up?

I'm very, very tired. I don't feel like I've slept for five years.

And you believe it's the paranormal?

Absolutely. Something's sucking the life out of me and changing the quality of

my existence.

So there's been a guy around.

I think he's like in his 30s age -wise.

He likes to just watch people.

Watching, watching, watching.

He'll like get up on you. He really does have a pretty intense vibe.

Even if you aren't seeing him, you would feel his presence. So you feel kind of

bothered.

When he's with you, I think that that living person would change

dramatically.

He's definitely a creeper. Just unnerving, unsettling.

This is the worst room in the house.

Okay, so tell me what's going on.

Well, there's like a menacing stalker in this room.

It feels like somebody's always behind you.

wherever I go in this room. Is it something you can see or is it just a

presence? No, I can't see it. It's some type of presence, but it's on you, ready

to jump at you at any time you feel like you're going to be attacked.

What else?

Things go missing around here all the time.

Okay, like what?

I'll set my keys on the bed. Okay. And I'll go wash my hands or brush my teeth.

I'll come back and my keys are gone.

Tear my room up. I come back and they're right where they were before.

Okay, I mean, I misplace stuff all the time, and I think they're there, but

they're not. But you're saying it's kind of like when you come back, it's where

it was? Exactly where it was, and it's really pissing me off.

The Creeper.

He was a bad guy when he was alive.

He likes to steal and move things.

Like what sort of things?

Like, oh, look, the remote.

Oh, make that disappear for like a week.

All right, so what else is going on?

I have been choked before.

Tell me about that. What happened?

My throat was shut, stuck together inside.

I could not get any air in or out.

This went on for a minute and a half. I really thought I was going to die.

You think the end goal here is to kill you or kill everybody in the house?

I do.

I absolutely do. And I don't want to be next.

Being like a living woman here.

This is like crazy at night. Okay.

So I think this dead guy is like really angry.

He can jump into the adult. Like here's the thing.

It's like he can't like swallow.

Very hard to swallow when he's in.

you know, near or in you.

You feel like you can't breathe, get lightheaded and dizzy, and then

compression on the chest.

And besides being sick is also the rage.

Do you think that others might be in danger because of this?

Yes, I think so.

Bad, bad, bad.

I'm a little concerned about you guys, especially after talking to your

grandmother about what's going on here.

Have you had experiences?

Yes. One was actually in my grandmother's room where I felt like I

watched. And in the bathroom, there was a black shadow walking past.

So when you said you had the feeling of being watched, did it feel like it was

just curiosity or did you feel like it was, you know, creepy?

Creepy.

Any other experiences?

Yes, one in my bedroom.

I was sleeping. I was having a nightmare that I was being chased by a stranger.

When I had woken up, I was being choked by what looked like the devil.

I couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move for a whole minute.

You sure it wasn't part of your dream?

I'm sure. I was up, and I could feel his weight on me, and I felt his hands

around me. And then after the whole minute, he disappeared.

I thought I was going to die.

I'm seeing like a little girl.

Something's happening.

I'm just hearing her, oh my God, did you see that?

Oh my God, did you see that?

Like I'm wondering if it's that guy, like the stalkery dude, because like I'm

not seeing and I'm getting hit from behind.

Not good.

Anything else?

Yes. Since we have moved into this house, my health has really gone

Grandma mentioned that to me.

So what are we talking about?

My stomach has made it hard for me to eat full meals. It makes it to where I

cannot stand up for more than five minutes.

Have you gone to a doctor about what the hell's going on with you?

Yes, I have.

They can't find anything wrong.

with my stomach at all.

Well, Grandma thinks this place is trying to kill you guys, whatever's

You feel that way?

Yes. Okay.

This one dead dude, he's definitely a jumper.

I don't like that.

He's very irritating, though, this guy.

Why?

Because he, like, sits in your stomach.

You can feel him in your stomach.

It's heavy and, like, it's sick.

Did he just jump you now?

When he jumped inside me, I got really dizzy, couldn't breathe.

So he has been jumping you this whole time?

Yeah.

Well,

Steven, first off, I want to extend my condolences on your father's passing.

Yeah. What type of guy was he?

He's the type of person, he'd give you his last dollar or the shirt off his

back. I never seen him smoke, never seen him get your cuss, never drank.

You must miss him.

Do you think he's here?

Yes, watching over the house.

I understand you're, what, 52?

Yeah. And you had a heart attack.

Yeah. In my feelings, you're a young man to have a heart attack.

Yeah, too young.

So that brings me to a point. Monette was telling me about everybody in the

house having some rage issues, for lack of a better word. Yeah, anger issues.

And particularly you as well. What's that all about? What's going on?

It just comes on.

But I try to keep to myself.

When you do get angry, how angry do you get? I don't punch holes in the walls

anymore.

Yeah, I used to punch holes in the walls a long time ago. Too old to do that

now.

Like a lot of anger out here.

Lots of anger.

This is coming from a male. I think he's live.

He's an extremely tense and stressed out person.

It's an unusual amount of anger that he has about his

life situation.

He feels like he's just out of control in his life and like going wrong. He's

very scared.

And I see him like punching, like punching something.

Do you have any idea how violent this guy in the garage might become if he was

being jumped?

That would not be a good situation.

Do you think he might be capable of killing in that state?

Yes.

Anything else?

It was shoved in my bedroom once. So what happened?

I just fell back and put a big old hole for my lower back in the wall.

So this ain't you punching holes in a wall and telling everybody else, you

what, something pushed me.

No, no, no. I mean, this is no joke. And you could have fell the wrong way, and

I've seen it a million times. People accidentally break their neck on a...

Simple little floor.

With all the stuff that's happened to you here, why don't you just pack up and

get the hell out?

Because I have nowhere else to go.

I don't like this.

The creeper, he is watching.

Watching what?

Whoever's in this room.

I think he doesn't like them just standing there watching.

He's like right here.

And he's got his knife.

This makes me nervous.

He wants to kill them.

That's not good.

If you're looking for lots of heat and open land,

Victorville is the place for you.

I was worried I wouldn't find much history here, but when I called a local

archivist, she said the Native American tribe that lived here had a miserable

time. But it wasn't the settlers who drove them out. It was another tribe.

So, Rebecca, I want to thank you for meeting me out here.

All right, so who was the tribe that lived here? Yeah, so they were called

Serrano tribe, and they had a village in this area called Tabiapet, and it

extended into your client's property.

All right, so I got to think at some point they came into contact with

right? Definitely. The Spanish started arriving in the late 1700s.

And since the Serrano are peaceful people, they actually helped them

the harsh Mojave Desert early on. So how did the Spanish treat the tribe?

The Spanish saw the Serrano as pagan and primitive, so they started trying to

convert them to Christianity as soon as possible.

Some were persuaded pretty easily, while others had to be forced into it.

Okay, so when you say forced into it, what are we talking about? They used

tactics like starving them into submission. Essentially, they would

their crops and their way of life.

Now, Rebecca, you mentioned on the phone to me that it wasn't the settlers that

drove the Serranos out, but it was another tribe. Who were they? So the

tribe also lived in this area. They saw the Serrano as enabling the Spanish.

They were disgusted that so many of them had converted to Christianity and the

Spanish way of life.

Okay, so how exactly did the Mojave get rid of the Serrano tribe?

November of 1819, the Serrano in this area got wind of a Mojave war party that

was coming through the area.

So they actually abandoned Tapayabit, their village, in hopes to avoid

But not all of them escaped alive.

All right, so what happened?

So we know that at least eight Serrano didn't make it out of this area.

So, Rebecca, when I was at my client's house, I noticed there's a lot of tract

housing in the area.

Do you have any idea if they've uncovered any bodies when they did the

construction? Not when they were putting your client's house up, but a rancher

in the 1940s was plowing his land and actually unearthed 26 Serrano skeletons,

and it was in the news.

It was believed that this mass burial site was actually a cemetery for

How far is this from my client's property?

So there's a marker on site there today, and it's about a mile from your

client's property.

All right, so it's close.

Yeah.

There is a bit of negative energy here. The sadness gets heavier.

Sure, sure, sure.

Blah, blah, sad, sad.

I'm like, is it cursed?

There are a handful of dead people that are kind of wandering around.

I do think something occurred here. There's something with a curse, okay?

And that's why things are bad.

So far, I've got a client who thinks the paranormal killed her roommate on

property near a Native American burial site.

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I found a suicide that took place right by

Monette's house.

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but this guy killed himself at the age of 82,

nearly the exact same age as Monette's roommate when he died.

In my experience, it's very rare for someone that age to kill themselves.

I'm on my way to meet a historian to see if there's more to this story.

So, Don, I want to thank you for helping me out with this case.

So the guy that killed himself, who was he? That would be Robert Turner.

Here's a photo of him.

He was one of the key figures in putting Victorville on the map.

I assume he was married, kid?

Yeah, he had six kids, wife Susan.

You said this guy helped put the city on the map. How'd he do that?

He was here at the right time. He started one of the first large cattle

locally, and then he diversified into businesses like a hotel, a general

and mining.

He was the king of the Victor Valley for a while.

So it sounds like this guy's making money. I mean, did he have any shady

going on? There is evidence of land speculation and shady deals.

happening here because he was the guy in charge he pretty much named his price

when when selling lots and selling ranch land okay to people coming in okay so

it was his way or the highway yeah all right so dylan with the shady dealings

that part of the reason he kills himself no he he started to experience personal

tragedies he lost his youngest son who was age four to undisclosed causes and

then in 1899 he lost another son this is frank and frank ran the general store

How old was this guy when he died?

Frank was 24.

Do we know what he died from?

We don't know.

That's a local mystery.

The final blow was the loss of his wife in 1912.

Let's get to the suicide. I mean, what happened?

So in 1916, he's 82 years old. Okay. He's living on the family cattle ranch.

This is about a mile from your client's property.

Okay. He takes this .44 caliber Winchester lever action, and he

against the floor, the butt against the floor, and the muzzle of the gun into

his chest, and...

discharges the firearm into his body.

82 years old, you don't hear a lot of 82 -year -olds committing suicide.

When you're a man of this character and you've done all of this and you've built

a city, decrepitude and old age, it may not be the easiest thing to swallow.

The creeper guy keeps following me.

I'd put him maybe 1908.

I think...

He was pretty bad.

Devious.

Like, scoundrel.

I feel like he robbed people.

Okay, so I did just hear a gunshot.

What's going on?

I got a suicide.

Pretty sure it was a man.

I just feel really stressed out about it.

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I was driving around Monette's neighborhood and rode right by a huge

Turns out the place opened in 2004, and there's already been a lot of deaths

behind those walls.

I've tracked down a former inmate who's going to talk to me about his

experiences there.

Says it gives him nightmares to this day.

JC, I appreciate you meeting with me. So, I can ask you a question. How'd you

wind up in Victorville?

I ended up there on a violation.

My original case was distribution of cocaine.

Okay. Went in, did my time, got out, and I was actually at a pool party.

Everybody was smoking weed, so I was like, decided to take a little hit off a

joint. Okay.

Next day, my PO calls me. So I went in, they arrest me right there and then in

the office.

So somebody dropped a dime on you, without a dime.

I don't want to think about it, but man, I wouldn't put it past nobody.

So when you got there, I mean, you've been in prison before, so I'm curious,

what was your impression when you walked in? I mean, I've been to prison in

Mexico, and I've seen some pretty wild stuff. When I got there, the energy I

felt. It's bad.

So what kind of things did you see when you were there?

I mean, walking in the door, somebody had already got killed.

So as soon as we walked into the kitchen, they were going to feed us.

blood all over the wall, on the floor, and handprints, bloody handprints all

over the wall.

And I was like, holy, like, what am I doing back again?

So your first day there, this is what you're seeing? Yeah.

I've heard it's been called Victimville. Yeah.

I mean, I know the deal. I was on the job long enough to know what goes on.

how did you survive as far as tactically inside?

Violence and knives, man.

Do you know how many homicides there have been there since it opened?

Total of eight.

Okay. Any of those eight stand out to you?

In 2005, a guy got stabbed to death over a couple bucks of tobacco.

Okay. People might say that that's like little, but in there it's a lot.

Okay, anything else that stood out?

In 2014, there was two cellmates that got killed in their cell.

It was never really pinned on nobody.

They don't know who did it.

I've heard of a lot of homicides in jail, but it's the first time it's

inside the same cell.

Yeah. So I know a lot of things haunt me.

Does that prison still haunt you?

Sometimes. You know, I hadn't slept for 15 years, and I just barely started

sleeping a couple of days ago.

I'm glad to hear that.

I thought all of these people, they'd stood up from the earth, and there was

probably about 20.

They are wanderers, and they are looking for help.

And what I was told was that these were murder victims who knew too much,

but were spanning, like, several decades.

I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk, but the creeper concerns me the

most.

He has a hat on, and it's just kind of, like, beat up. He had tan skin,

dark hair to his neck.

His lips are rounded. There's no points or anything very rounded.

Next, I described the creeper jumping a living man in the garage.

I want to show, like, the dead guy, like, going into the stomach of

this living guy.

I want to show his face enraged because that's what this guy, like,

brings out in him.

Rage.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal

findings to each other and our clients for the first time.

Guys, I'd like you to meet Amy.

She's going to be doing the reveal from another room so that we can concentrate

on your case as well as the dead without any distractions.

Amy, I want you to meet the three people that live in this house. This is

Monette. She's the one that called us in. This is her granddaughter, Paige,

who's 20.

And this is Steven, who is a family friend and the co -owner of the house.

Monette and Paige are terrified and think that whatever's here is evil and

to kill.

So unless Amy's got some questions for you guys, she'll tell us about her war.

When I first got here, the feelings that I got were extreme

sadness, and that just kind of permeates this area.

which indicated to me that there had been some type of substantial loss. The

living here may be prone to having depressive episodes and feeling

lost. I've never actually been one to be depressed, but I have been since I've

moved here.

It's probably a shot in the dark, but it's something you probably should know

about that came up in research.

This land was originally settled by the Serrano Indians.

Now, their village actually extended through your property here. In the

1700s, Spanish settlers came. They saw that tribe as being primitive and

converting them to Christianity.

Anyone who resisted was tortured.

Oh. So eventually they got driven out of this area, but not by the Spanish

settlers, by the neighboring Mojave tribe.

Now, in 1940, a local farmer was plowing his land about a mile from here. He

stumbled onto a Serrano burial site, and there was remains of 26 people.

Now, I got a photo of it.

It's kind of sad to look at.

Now, do you think the sadness might have came from this tribe?

Mm -hmm, yeah.

So, what else?

What I feel is affecting you the most.

and is the biggest problem here.

There's one very conscious, pretty dangerous dead guy who is here.

I called him the creeper because he likes to watch people. He likes to

get right up on you, like almost to where he's at your back and like his

right here.

One time when I was in my grandma's room, I felt like I was being watched.

And then out of nowhere, there was a shadow in my grandma's room walking past

the doorway.

And there was no way it was coming from the outside, correct?

No.

His thing, you know, he loves to steal things.

Something as stupid as, like, he would take, you know, a remote control and,

like, hide it for, like, a week.

And then you would find it exactly where you put it.

Oh, it's pretty amazing.

Sadly, it's exactly like she said. I'll have my keys sitting on my bed, and I'll

go wash my hands or brush my teeth, come back, the keys are absolutely gone. I

go to look for a spare, and there they are, sitting in the exact same spot.

So absolutely irritating beyond belief.

Any idea who this guy might have been when he was alive?

He was from way back. I kept hearing 1908 for some reason.

Definitely got the impression that he wasn't a great guy when he was alive.

He liked to rob people.

I just got that he was a scoundrel and that he was very devious.

So I think he was just a criminal.

He also loved knives. He was obsessed with them.

His death was not great. It was something like choking. He couldn't

I mean, for me, it's not a lot to go on. But one of the things you were saying,

especially the 1908 part, had me thinking of one of the city's founding

His name was Robert Turner, and he came here from Pennsylvania in the 1860s.

Robert built a very successful cattle ranch less than a mile from your house

here. But according to the expert I spoke to, he wasn't that good of a guy.

made some shady deals, but he also suffered from some personal tragedies.

lost his four -year -old son in 1881.

After that happened, his 24 -year -old son dropped dead of unknown causes in

1899. I got a picture of the son.

Now, the biggest blow to this guy came in 1912 when Turner's wife died after an

illness. Now, this is all too much for Turner. In 1916, he took a .44 rifle,

put it against his body, basically in his chest, blew his chest out.

Now, I've seen what a .44 rifle could do to somebody that close.

It must have been a mess.

Now, I got a photo of this guy.

Was there any way that this guy could be the creeper?

I had a sketch done of a person I encountered.

Oh, yeah, this looks nothing like the two guys I just showed you. He's a

miserable -looking son of a bitch, isn't he?

Wow.

Very scary.

It's creepy.

You know, this was a ranch years ago. This place was filled with cowboys and

stuff. Could this guy have been maybe a ranch hand that was a drifter that came

through? That could be, yeah.

Okay, so we don't know who this creeper guy is, but you did say he was

dangerous. So what does he do?

He can jump into the body of living people.

He did it to me during the walk.

So did he just jump you now?

I felt sick, dizzy, couldn't breathe, and I felt like I

couldn't swallow.

This is something that the living here could experience.

You okay, sweetie?

Yeah, sure.

You okay?

Is that a bug?

Yeah. You okay?

Yeah. What's the matter?

I'm just scared.

You're just scared?

Have you seen that creepy before?

That face. I've seen him in one of my nightmares.

Yeah? That's what tripped me up.

I told you it was going to get real.

You okay?

Yeah.

You okay, sweetie?

Paige, when you see that, what's going through your mind?

One night I was having a nightmare, and it was a stranger that was choking

me. When I had woken up, the stranger had turned into the devil, and I

breathe for a good minute. I felt his weight on top of my chest, and he was

sitting on top of me, choking me and laughing at me.

And then after one minute, he disappeared.

Listen to me. Listen to me. It's going to be okay, all right? I'm not going

anywhere. Nobody's going to leave here.

We're going to find out what the hell to do with this guy, and we're going to

get rid of him, okay?

All right? Can I get your jacket, Grandma, so I can get this cold off of

Yeah.

Is that better? Feel better?

So talking about being choked, you had the same, something similar happen to

you? Yes. I woke up, and it felt as though... Fingers had squeezed the

my throat shut.

I don't know how long it was, but to me it was like an eternity.

Super scary, and I thought that was it.

It's a possibility that you were experiencing what he went through when

Another thing about this guy, he can make you very sick.

When he jumped me, I felt this, like, weight in my stomach. And, like, it was

uncomfortable.

You should know that everybody here has health issues and they're sick and

they're blaming it all on the paranormal.

Start with you, Paige. You told me all about that.

I get a lot of pain in my stomach to where I just lay in bed all day.

I'm usually cranky when it happens.

You've had issues before.

She's a brain cancer survivor.

She's still being checked every so often.

Yes, but they haven't found anything wrong with my stomach.

It's been three years and still nothing on it. Now, Monette, you've got health

issues. Right now I have broken bones in my feet and my ankles that I knew

nothing about nor how I got them.

Yeah, I've had a heart attack and didn't even know I had one.

And you're only 52.

Yeah. Amy, there's something else you should know.

Stephen's dad died of a heart attack when he lived here.

So, Monette, tell Amy why you think it's the paranormal that killed him.

Because this man never smoked or drank, and he was a Christian man.

Very godly man.

This is a picture of him right here.

Yes.

Stephen thinks he's still here.

What do you think, Amy?

I don't think he's here anymore, which is great.

Well, that's us.

Well, you feel better that your dad's moved on?

Yeah. He had a one -way ticket to heaven.

So, Amy, this dead guy, does he do anything else?

When he jumps people, he will heighten their emotions.

So if you're prone to anger or if you're prone to sadness or whatever, he'll

make that tenfold.

I saw an incident in the garage where this person, this male, was so angry and

very upset about his life situation. And he was thinking that he was cursed or

something because things were always going so bad.

And I saw the dead guy jump into him.

I did have a sketch done of this.

Oh, jeez.

Looks like Steven.

Makes perfect sense to me.

That is amazing.

Do you recall ever being in the garage and getting mental like that?

Yeah.

My fear is that if he jumped a living person who was in this state, he

could make that person violent.

He might be able to make that person kill someone.

Now, that makes me extremely concerned.

I feel very uncomfortable.

That explains a lot to me, and it actually pisses me off.

Very scary.

So, you guys thought you had a demon in the house.

Good news is, you don't.

Bad news is, this creeper guy, Might as well have been a demon.

Now the question is, can you get rid of this and get back to a normal life? And

if so, what's that going to take?

For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy.

So there's, like, good news, and then there's bad news.

As far as the dead guy is concerned, there...

is something that can be done to get rid of him, five people,

a team that I would be putting together, would come here.

They're kind of a mixed bag of people, like X -Medians, pagans, Satanists, you

know, the whole nine.

The first thing that they would do is what's called a cord cutting between you

guys and him.

then a shaman will actually be removing him, the

dead guy, from this situation.

The bad news is that this area is really, really,

really thick with this awful residual energy.

The problem is that you can't... Get rid of

this.

So in order for you to stay here, you would literally have to do

cleansings of your home, and this would have to be something you did pretty much

on a daily basis.

It's up to you if that's something you want to take on.

Her bad news was just as good as her goodness for me.

Okay. Good.

A billion pounds lifted off my shoulders right now.

Good. Paige, do you feel better about it?

Yes, I do.

We can get all the negative and depression out.

Great. How about you, big guy? Oh, yeah.

Definitely get the, you know, evil out of here.

I'm feeling really blessed and ready to get back to normal.

Yes, I'm looking forward to you guys getting back to that.

I feel lighter.

Good. I really do.

Monette, Paige, and Steven have suffered long enough.

I really hope they follow my advice and cleanse their house of negative energy,

as well as work with a shaman to remove the creeper. If they do, I'm confident

they can live in their home peacefully for many years to come.

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